Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - reprise - Call for a cleaner
John B, BE SURE when you do the step below that you put a check (tick) by the box that says "Always use the selected program to open this kind of file." Easy to miss, especially if you're in a hurry, or irritated. Roxy I try to open any file using "openwith" and the browser button, I manually select OO[check the box], click on it, -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - reprise - Call for a cleaner
Dear Tom & Roxy /i remember this one getting to a slightly unsatisfactory but 'good enough' result?/ Yes; Thanks to both of you ( and the others for their comments). I can see how easy it is to get off track. I installed the free version of Revo-Uninstaller - brilliant I then tried it out on my weakest link - OpenOffice My non-scientific observation is that OO can uninstall about 50% of itself, whilst Revo uninstalled 99.9%. There were a few OO crumbs left in the Registry (as opposed to the 50 -60 using windows uninstall). This is a definite "must have" program from now on. However, this does not resolve the windows issue that "Open With", as it defaults to the 1st one of the 2 installed. For example now the reverse of my problem is true. LO (good news for me) is now the default, I try to open any file using "openwith" and the browser button, I manually select OO click on it, but it immediately springs back to LO and opens with LO. There is no way to force capture OO using this method. I have tried this now on a 2nd computer and the results were the same. In all other ways its a reasonable result. Whilst they (OO & LO) are using identical file names and pathways, I suppose it will remain like this until one or the other changes the names - maybe soffice.exe will become Loffice.exe. What I do not understand is that Lotus Symphony also uses a soffice.exe and it works fine. so thanks and >> all hail to LibreOffice-users John B - Hi:) Did you manage to sort this problem out in the end? I know quite a few questions from Thursday and Friday got missed and need to be re-posted. I think i remember this one getting to a slightly unsatisfactory but 'good enough' result? Regards from Tom:) On 11/06/2011 16:10, Roxy Robinson wrote: I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and there is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few years. If you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that has left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show you what it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very seldom have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted on my machine. On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program to "open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, left hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always open this type file with this program". Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. Roxy Robinson Thanks for the start: I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on the move The finish went like this:- Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 programs and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the Program folders. Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with" Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with "open with". So its whoever is installed first! I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater for Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does>> all praise to LibreOffice. BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing. regards John B - On 10/06/2011 21:15, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Un-installing OpenOffice often cures weird and unlikely problems especially in Windows. There is still often a clash between OpenOffice and LibreOffice when both are installed on a system. There are some clever ways to install both but i don't have a note of any of the various instructions and have not compared their reliability or effectiveness. Often the main problems occur when the Quick Launcher/Starter is enabled within OpenOffice. Even without that they both use the same names on the command-line, such as "soffice --writer" so the scope for errors and confusions is quite high. Usually just using the "Open with .." and then browsing to the relevant program is enough to push that program to the short-list in the "Open with .." option. Regards from Tom :) From: John B To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 14:46:28 Subject: [lib
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with"
Hi :) Thanks :) Good to see a few copy-left programs in your list of archive managers. Some of those look familiar but i haven't tried them. :) If you open the file-browser and then click on something like Tools - "Folder Options" - "File Types" (2nd or 3rd tab of 4?) then you'll see that each file-ending/extension has several sub-categories. I don't think those sub-categories are set by which program created the file = that would be too easy. It is true that if you take a file in Windows and rename it to make the file-ending/extension some random 3 letters then suddenly Windows can't decide what to open the file with. It can be a sneaky way of blocking access to anyone that doesn't know how to use the "Open with .." functionality, ie most Windows users. Wow! I was able to open ods and odp with an archive manager to get at the separate component parts of the files. I've never had much difficulty with Open Document Formats so i hadn't tried before. Thanks and regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Stephan Zietsman > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 8:06:47 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" > > Tom Davies wrote: > > It is smart to have an archive manager in the context/right-click menu for >many > > different purposes such as compressing a collection of files ready to > > email >or > > whatever. WinZip is probably still the best archive manager in Windows. > > Just to mention a few alternatives: > 7-zip (LGPL licence) > PeaZip (GPS licence) > WinRAR (shareware licence) > > > There are usually quite a few sub-categories of any particular > > format so changing, for example, "docX" to Writer using this method might >not > > cover ALL ".docX"s. > > Under Windows, I believe the file-manager only looks at the extension > to decide which program to use. Unless I'm mistaken, it will use the > same program to open all *.docx files, regardless of which version the > file is or which program created it. > > > > Is odt an Xml format? I seem to remember hearing it is but i'm not sure. > > The OpenDocument format (odt, ods, odp, odb, odg, etc.) is indeed "an > XML-based file format": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odf > > > Also i don't know whether being non-Admin in Windows makes a difference to >how > > the "Open with ..." thing works in Windows. > > I don't think you need to have Admin rights to affect the "Open > with..." options. Testing on the machine I'm currently using (without > Admin rights) the program does seem to get added to the "Open with..." > quick-list after the first time I've forced. > > Regards > Stephan > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with"
Tom Davies wrote: > It is smart to have an archive manager in the context/right-click menu for > many > different purposes such as compressing a collection of files ready to email or > whatever. WinZip is probably still the best archive manager in Windows. Just to mention a few alternatives: 7-zip (LGPL licence) PeaZip (GPS licence) WinRAR (shareware licence) > There are usually quite a few sub-categories of any particular > format so changing, for example, "docX" to Writer using this method might not > cover ALL ".docX"s. Under Windows, I believe the file-manager only looks at the extension to decide which program to use. Unless I'm mistaken, it will use the same program to open all *.docx files, regardless of which version the file is or which program created it. > Is odt an Xml format? I seem to remember hearing it is but i'm not sure. The OpenDocument format (odt, ods, odp, odb, odg, etc.) is indeed "an XML-based file format": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odf > Also i don't know whether being non-Admin in Windows makes a difference to how > the "Open with ..." thing works in Windows. I don't think you need to have Admin rights to affect the "Open with..." options. Testing on the machine I'm currently using (without Admin rights) the program does seem to get added to the "Open with..." quick-list after the first time I've forced. Regards Stephan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
Hi :) Malware programs often pretend to be registry cleaners so please take care. The registry is really vulnerable, fairly critical and not very well understood. It's best to avoid messing around with it. Experts avoid touching it unless they have to jic. Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: David B Teague sr > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 23:17:13 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for > a >cleaner > > On 6/11/2011 5:20 PM, Roxy Robinson wrote: > > That is why there is a "special" uninstaller for Norton AV, that is, or >course, not produced by the Norton folks. It is a "freebie" out there >somewhere. I used it several years ago, but don't remember just exactly where >I >got it. > > Roxy > > > This departs from the topic slightly, so please forgive. > > When faced with recalcitrant application uninstallation, I have resorted to >removing the folder that contains the binary and running a registry cleaner. >(CCleaner seems to work and do no damage.) > > There is no way to be certain every folder belonging to the recalcitrant >application has been removed. > > This is off topic, so please use private communication in responding. > > David Teague > > > -- nil significat nisi oscillat > > > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
Hi :) One advantage of using a LiveCd before there are problems on your machine is that you have more confidence in having a way of solving problems when they occur in Windows. Also it checks that the hardware works easily by default before getting stuck in the middle of an install. Anyway, if you know about partitioning then it's a fairly safe bet that you know what you are doing with it all. Good luck and regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sun, 12 June, 2011 0:26:57 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for > a >cleaner > > I will probably just wait until I get a chance to add a partition and go > ahead >and install it. I have been fairly happy with Win7 64 so far. My boot time is >just under a minute - a few seconds better than my XP desktop, and WAY better >than my old Vista laptop. > Roxy > > > Hi :) > You can reboot the machine with the Ubuntu Cd in and "Try it" instead of > installing. It's the slowest way to try Ubuntu but it's still often faster >that > way than Windows. > > > Actually the 10.04 and the 10.10 are a bit quirky so i tend to choose the > "Install it" option and then at the next page go "Back" and then try the "Try > it" option. [sigh] It takes maybe 10-15 mins to get to a working desktop >using > the Cd but Firefox is on the top taskbar and it's worth checking how fast that > works at surfing a few sites. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > ----- Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 22:14:12 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call > > for >a > >cleaner > > > > I have Ubuntu 10.10 desktop CD in my desk. One of these days I hope to get > > >to > >that, too. > > That's the terrible thing about mainstream, paid for, software. Why make it > >perfect (or as perfect as a human can) when that would end your ongoing >sales?? > > Roxy > > > > > > Hi :) > > The equivalent in gnu&linux is/are excellent.Plus they also do the >"add" > >bit > > rather well by including search tools so that it's easy to find programs >that > > you might want to have even if you can't remember their exact names. > > > > There are sooo many things i don't miss about the Windows world. I feel >like > >i > > have broken out of stockholm syndrome or something. Colleagues at work >often > > hit walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff. Makes me > >feel > > so smug. A few times i have even been able to fix things with a LiveUsb :) > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Roxy Robinson > > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00 > > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - > > > Call >for > >a > > >cleaner > > > > > > Tom, > > > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its > defragger. > > >Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in > >the > > >registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it > > >uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that > > >recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, > about > > >speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it > >comes > > >very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst > > >programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV > > >uninstallers out there to help with it. > > > Roxy > > > > > > > > > Hi :) > > > > > > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. > >It's > > > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' > > stick > > > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards > >compatible. > > > > > > > > > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every >couple > >of > > > ye
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
I will probably just wait until I get a chance to add a partition and go ahead and install it. I have been fairly happy with Win7 64 so far. My boot time is just under a minute - a few seconds better than my XP desktop, and WAY better than my old Vista laptop. Roxy Hi :) You can reboot the machine with the Ubuntu Cd in and "Try it" instead of installing. It's the slowest way to try Ubuntu but it's still often faster that way than Windows. Actually the 10.04 and the 10.10 are a bit quirky so i tend to choose the "Install it" option and then at the next page go "Back" and then try the "Try it" option. [sigh] It takes maybe 10-15 mins to get to a working desktop using the Cd but Firefox is on the top taskbar and it's worth checking how fast that works at surfing a few sites. Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 22:14:12 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a >cleaner > > I have Ubuntu 10.10 desktop CD in my desk. One of these days I hope to get to >that, too. > That's the terrible thing about mainstream, paid for, software. Why make it >perfect (or as perfect as a human can) when that would end your ongoing >sales?? > Roxy > > > Hi :) > The equivalent in gnu&linux is/are excellent.Plus they also do the "add" >bit > rather well by including search tools so that it's easy to find programs that > you might want to have even if you can't remember their exact names. > > There are sooo many things i don't miss about the Windows world. I feel like >i > have broken out of stockholm syndrome or something. Colleagues at work often > hit walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff. Makes me >feel > so smug. A few times i have even been able to fix things with a LiveUsb :) > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call > > for >a > >cleaner > > > > Tom, > > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its defragger. > >Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in >the > >registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it > >uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that > >recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, about > >speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it >comes > >very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst > >programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV > >uninstallers out there to help with it. > > Roxy > > > > > > Hi :) > > > > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. >It's > > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' > stick > > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards >compatible. > > > > > > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple >of > > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and > >stuff. > > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, > > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them > >almost > > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which > > makes a huge difference. > > > > > > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. > > Thanks and regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Roxy Robinson > > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call >for > >a > > >cleaner > > > > > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and > >there > > >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few >years. > >If > > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the > > >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers&qu
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
2011/6/11 Tom Davies : > Hi :) > You can reboot the machine with the Ubuntu Cd in and "Try it" instead of > installing. It's the slowest way to try Ubuntu but it's still often faster > that > way than Windows. Well, it's slow from the CD, so I prefer to make a Live USB stick instead. Much faster, but still not as fast as a native install. But enough about that now, aren't we supposed to discuss LibreOffice here…? :P Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ > > > Actually the 10.04 and the 10.10 are a bit quirky so i tend to choose the > "Install it" option and then at the next page go "Back" and then try the "Try > it" option. [sigh] It takes maybe 10-15 mins to get to a working desktop > using > the Cd but Firefox is on the top taskbar and it's worth checking how fast that > works at surfing a few sites. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > - Original Message >> From: Roxy Robinson >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org >> Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 22:14:12 >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for >> a >>cleaner >> >> I have Ubuntu 10.10 desktop CD in my desk. One of these days I hope to get to >>that, too. >> That's the terrible thing about mainstream, paid for, software. Why make it >>perfect (or as perfect as a human can) when that would end your ongoing >>sales?? >> Roxy >> >> >> Hi :) >> The equivalent in gnu&linux is/are excellent. Plus they also do the "add" >>bit >> rather well by including search tools so that it's easy to find programs >> that >> you might want to have even if you can't remember their exact names. >> >> There are sooo many things i don't miss about the Windows world. I feel >> like >>i >> have broken out of stockholm syndrome or something. Colleagues at work >> often >> hit walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff. Makes me >>feel >> so smug. A few times i have even been able to fix things with a LiveUsb :) >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message >> > From: Roxy Robinson >> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org >> > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00 >> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call >> > for >>a >> >cleaner >> > >> > Tom, >> > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its > defragger. >> >Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in >>the >> >registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it >> >uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that >> >recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, > about >> >speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it >>comes >> >very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst >> >programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV >> >uninstallers out there to help with it. >> > Roxy >> > >> > >> > Hi :) >> > >> > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. >>It's >> > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' >> stick >> > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards >>compatible. >> > >> > >> > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple >>of >> > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and >> >stuff. >> > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard >> > defrags, >> > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them >> >almost >> > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) > which >> > makes a huge difference. >> > >> > >> > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. >> > Thanks and regards from >> > Tom :) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > - Original Message >> > > From: Roxy Robinson >> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org >> > > Sent: Sat, 11 J
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
On 6/11/2011 5:20 PM, Roxy Robinson wrote: That is why there is a "special" uninstaller for Norton AV, that is, or course, not produced by the Norton folks. It is a "freebie" out there somewhere. I used it several years ago, but don't remember just exactly where I got it. Roxy This departs from the topic slightly, so please forgive. When faced with recalcitrant application uninstallation, I have resorted to removing the folder that contains the binary and running a registry cleaner. (CCleaner seems to work and do no damage.) There is no way to be certain every folder belonging to the recalcitrant application has been removed. This is off topic, so please use private communication in responding. David Teague -- nil significat nisi oscillat -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
Hi :) You can reboot the machine with the Ubuntu Cd in and "Try it" instead of installing. It's the slowest way to try Ubuntu but it's still often faster that way than Windows. Actually the 10.04 and the 10.10 are a bit quirky so i tend to choose the "Install it" option and then at the next page go "Back" and then try the "Try it" option. [sigh] It takes maybe 10-15 mins to get to a working desktop using the Cd but Firefox is on the top taskbar and it's worth checking how fast that works at surfing a few sites. Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 22:14:12 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for > a >cleaner > > I have Ubuntu 10.10 desktop CD in my desk. One of these days I hope to get to > >that, too. > That's the terrible thing about mainstream, paid for, software. Why make it >perfect (or as perfect as a human can) when that would end your ongoing >sales?? > Roxy > > > Hi :) > The equivalent in gnu&linux is/are excellent.Plus they also do the "add" >bit > rather well by including search tools so that it's easy to find programs that > you might want to have even if you can't remember their exact names. > > There are sooo many things i don't miss about the Windows world. I feel > like >i > have broken out of stockholm syndrome or something. Colleagues at work often > hit walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff. Makes me >feel > so smug. A few times i have even been able to fix things with a LiveUsb :) > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call > > for >a > >cleaner > > > > Tom, > > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its defragger. > >Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in >the > >registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it > >uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that > >recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, about > >speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it >comes > >very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst > >programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV > >uninstallers out there to help with it. > > Roxy > > > > > > Hi :) > > > > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. >It's > > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' > stick > > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards >compatible. > > > > > > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple >of > > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and > >stuff. > > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, > > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them > >almost > > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which > > makes a huge difference. > > > > > > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. > > Thanks and regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Roxy Robinson > > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - > > > Call >for > >a > > >cleaner > > > > > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and > >there > > >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few >years. > >If > > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the > > >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that > >has > > >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show >you > >what > > >it has found, including what
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
That is why there is a "special" uninstaller for Norton AV, that is, or course, not produced by the Norton folks. It is a "freebie" out there somewhere. I used it several years ago, but don't remember just exactly where I got it. Roxy On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 13:09 -0500, Roxy Robinson wrote: > Tom, > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its defragger. > Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in the > registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it > uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that > recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, about > speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it comes > very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst > programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV > uninstallers out there to help with it. > Roxy > > > Hi :) > > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. It's > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' stick > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards compatible. > > > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple of > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and > stuff. > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them > almost > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which > makes a huge difference. > > > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. > Thanks and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call > > for a > >cleaner > > > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and > > there > >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few years. > >If > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the > >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that > >has > >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show you > >what > >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and > >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very > >seldom > >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted on my > >machine. > > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program to > >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, left > >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always open > >this > >type file with this program". > > Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. > > Roxy Robinson > > > > > > Thanks for the start: > > > > I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on > > the move > > > > The finish went like this:- > > Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office > > > > Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 > > programs > > and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc > > > > Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the > > Program folders. > > > > Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" > > > > Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with" > > > > Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with > > "open with". > > > > So its whoever is installed first! > > > > I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater for > > Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise to > > LibreOffice. > > > > BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing. > > > > regards > > > > John B > > > >- > >- > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/06/2011 21:15, To
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
I have Ubuntu 10.10 desktop CD in my desk. One of these days I hope to get to that, too. That's the terrible thing about mainstream, paid for, software. Why make it perfect (or as perfect as a human can) when that would end your ongoing sales?? Roxy Hi :) The equivalent in gnu&linux is/are excellent.Plus they also do the "add" bit rather well by including search tools so that it's easy to find programs that you might want to have even if you can't remember their exact names. There are sooo many things i don't miss about the Windows world. I feel like i have broken out of stockholm syndrome or something. Colleagues at work often hit walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff. Makes me feel so smug. A few times i have even been able to fix things with a LiveUsb :) Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a >cleaner > > Tom, > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its defragger. >Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in the >registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it >uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that >recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, about >speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it comes >very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst >programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV >uninstallers out there to help with it. > Roxy > > > Hi :) > > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. It's > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' stick > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards compatible. > > > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple of > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and >stuff. > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them >almost > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which > makes a huge difference. > > > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. > Thanks and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call > > for >a > >cleaner > > > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and >there > >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few years. >If > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the > >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that >has > >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show you >what > >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and > >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very >seldom > >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted on my > >machine. > > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program >to > >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, left > >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always open >this > >type file with this program". > > Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. > > Roxy Robinson > > > > > > Thanks for the start: > > > > I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on > > the move > > > > The finish went like this:- > > Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office > > > > Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 > > programs > > and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc > > > > Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the > > Program folders. > > > > Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" > > > > Then I re-installed Lotus Sy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 13:09 -0500, Roxy Robinson wrote: > Tom, > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its defragger. > Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in the > registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it > uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that > recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, about > speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it comes > very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst > programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV > uninstallers out there to help with it. > Roxy > > > Hi :) > > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. It's > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' stick > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards compatible. > > > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple of > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and > stuff. > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them > almost > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which > makes a huge difference. > > > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. > Thanks and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > ----- Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call > > for a > >cleaner > > > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and > > there > >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few years. > >If > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the > >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that > >has > >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show you > >what > >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and > >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very > >seldom > >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted on my > >machine. > > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program to > >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, left > >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always open > >this > >type file with this program". > > Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. > > Roxy Robinson > > > > > > Thanks for the start: > > > > I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on > > the move > > > > The finish went like this:- > > Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office > > > > Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 > > programs > > and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc > > > > Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the > > Program folders. > > > > Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" > > > > Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with" > > > > Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with > > "open with". > > > > So its whoever is installed first! > > > > I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater for > > Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise to > > LibreOffice. > > > > BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing. > > > > regards > > > > John B > > > >- > >- > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/06/2011 21:15, Tom Davies wrote: > > > Hi :) > > > Un-installing OpenOffice often cures weird and unlikely problems > > > especially > >in > > > Windows. > > > > > > > > > There is still often a clas
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
Hi :) The equivalent in gnu&linux is/are excellent.Plus they also do the "add" bit rather well by including search tools so that it's easy to find programs that you might want to have even if you can't remember their exact names. There are sooo many things i don't miss about the Windows world. I feel like i have broken out of stockholm syndrome or something. Colleagues at work often hit walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff. Makes me feel so smug. A few times i have even been able to fix things with a LiveUsb :) Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for > a >cleaner > > Tom, > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its defragger. >Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in the >registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it >uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that >recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, about >speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it comes >very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst >programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV >uninstallers out there to help with it. > Roxy > > > Hi :) > > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. It's > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' stick > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards compatible. > > > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple of > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and >stuff. > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them >almost > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which > makes a huge difference. > > > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. > Thanks and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call > > for >a > >cleaner > > > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and >there > >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few years. >If > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the > >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that >has > >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show you >what > >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and > >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very >seldom > >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted on my > >machine. > > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program >to > >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, left > >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always open >this > >type file with this program". > > Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. > > Roxy Robinson > > > > > > Thanks for the start: > > > > I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on > > the move > > > > The finish went like this:- > > Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office > > > > Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 > > programs > > and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc > > > > Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the > > Program folders. > > > > Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" > > > > Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with" > > > > Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with > > "open with". > > > > So its w
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
Tom, The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its defragger. Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in the registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, about speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it comes very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV uninstallers out there to help with it. Roxy Hi :) Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. It's practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' stick with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards compatible. Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple of years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and stuff. I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them almost completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which makes a huge difference. This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. Thanks and regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a >cleaner > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and > there >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few years. If >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that has >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show you >what >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very seldom >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted on my >machine. > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program to >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, left >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always open >this >type file with this program". > Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. > Roxy Robinson > > > Thanks for the start: > > I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on > the move > > The finish went like this:- > Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office > > Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 > programs > and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc > > Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the > Program folders. > > Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" > > Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with" > > Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with > "open with". > > So its whoever is installed first! > > I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater for > Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise to > LibreOffice. > > BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing. > > regards > > John B > >- >- > > > > > > On 10/06/2011 21:15, Tom Davies wrote: > > Hi :) > > Un-installing OpenOffice often cures weird and unlikely problems especially >in > > Windows. > > > > > > There is still often a clash between OpenOffice and LibreOffice when both >are > > installed on a system. There are some clever ways to install both but i >don't > > have a note of any of the various instructions and have not compared their > > reliability or effectiveness. > > > > > > Often the main problems occur when the Quick Launcher/Starter is enabled >within > > OpenOffice. Even without that they both use the same names on the >command-line, > > such as "soffice --writer" so the scope for errors and confusions is quite > > high. > > > > > > Usually just using the "Open with .."
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
Hi :) Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. It's practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' stick with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards compatible. Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple of years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and stuff. I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them almost completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which makes a huge difference. This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. Thanks and regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for > a >cleaner > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and > there >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few years. If > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that has > >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show you >what >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very >seldom >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted on my >machine. > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program to >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, left >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always open >this >type file with this program". > Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. > Roxy Robinson > > > Thanks for the start: > > I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on > the move > > The finish went like this:- > Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office > > Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 > programs > and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc > > Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the > Program folders. > > Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" > > Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with" > > Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with > "open with". > > So its whoever is installed first! > > I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater for > Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise to > LibreOffice. > > BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing. > > regards > > John B > >- >- > > > > > > On 10/06/2011 21:15, Tom Davies wrote: > > Hi :) > > Un-installing OpenOffice often cures weird and unlikely problems > > especially >in > > Windows. > > > > > > There is still often a clash between OpenOffice and LibreOffice when both >are > > installed on a system. There are some clever ways to install both but i >don't > > have a note of any of the various instructions and have not compared their > > reliability or effectiveness. > > > > > > Often the main problems occur when the Quick Launcher/Starter is enabled >within > > OpenOffice. Even without that they both use the same names on the >command-line, > > such as "soffice --writer" so the scope for errors and confusions is quite > > high. > > > > > > Usually just using the "Open with .." and then browsing to the relevant >program > > is enough to push that program to the short-list in the "Open with .." >option. > > > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: John B > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 14:46:28 > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" > > > > To open a selected Document with LibreOffice does anyone know how to make > > LibraOffice
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and there is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few years. If you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that has left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show you what it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very seldom have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted on my machine. On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program to "open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, left hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always open this type file with this program". Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. Roxy Robinson Thanks for the start: I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on the move The finish went like this:- Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 programs and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the Program folders. Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with" Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with "open with". So its whoever is installed first! I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater for Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise to LibreOffice. BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing. regards John B - On 10/06/2011 21:15, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > Un-installing OpenOffice often cures weird and unlikely problems especially in > Windows. > > > There is still often a clash between OpenOffice and LibreOffice when both are > installed on a system. There are some clever ways to install both but i don't > have a note of any of the various instructions and have not compared their > reliability or effectiveness. > > > Often the main problems occur when the Quick Launcher/Starter is enabled > within > OpenOffice. Even without that they both use the same names on the > command-line, > such as "soffice --writer" so the scope for errors and confusions is quite > high. > > > Usually just using the "Open with .." and then browsing to the relevant > program > is enough to push that program to the short-list in the "Open with .." option. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > > From: John B > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 14:46:28 > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" > > To open a selected Document with LibreOffice does anyone know how to make > LibraOffice appear in the Windows "Open With" (and stay there). > > Even when I use the "browse" within the "open with" , then locate LibreOffice > manually, it still does not work, as when I click on LibreOffice or Writer > (applications), its ignored and the system jumps back to the browsing list. > > Also Libra Office does not appear in the recommended programs list, whilst > OpenOffice does and works fine. > > > Windows XP pro sp3 > Libre Office 3.3& 3.4 > > John B > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with"
Hi :) It is smart to have an archive manager in the context/right-click menu for many different purposes such as compressing a collection of files ready to email or whatever. WinZip is probably still the best archive manager in Windows. I think the "make this default" option sets it so that the specific file-type is opened by the selected program using a double-click rather than a right-click from hence forth. Or at least until you use the same option to change the default again. There are usually quite a few sub-categories of any particular format so changing, for example, "docX" to Writer using this method might not cover ALL ".docX"s. It's interesting to hear the odf can be opened with an archive manager. I knew docXs can be but didn't know odts could too. Is odt an Xml format? I seem to remember hearing it is but i'm not sure. I tend to stick with doc (without the X) for greater compatibility with users of older versions of MS Office. Also i don't know whether being non-Admin in Windows makes a difference to how the "Open with ..." thing works in Windows. Generally it is safer to create a normal user account for normal daily use and then only use the Admin/Root/Super-User account for specific tasks. Sadly, it doesn't make Windows much safer as programs tend to dip in and out of Admin level for no really good reason. Still not opening web-pages, emails (and any files from other people) as Admin user does reduce the chance of malware and other attacks from being so effective. Regards from Tom :) From: Dennis E. Hamilton To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 21:11:04 Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" I've had no trouble making that work. Typically, I can open any of my .odt/.ods/ ..., files in any of Microsoft Word, whatever version of OO.o/LO that is installed on the same machine, and WinZip using the context menu and "Open With ...". That is, the different ways I have opened an .odt in the past become added to the "Open With ..." menu. I've even had different version of OpenOffice.org in the context menu, but it is hard to tell them apart so I don't try that any longer. I usually have to train "Open With ..." by going to the application the hard way (browse for it in Program Files) the first time, but it seems to remember after that. Remember not to check "make this the default" though. I currently am running in an administrator account on all of the places where I do this. I don't know if that is a factor in getting "Open With ..." to stick or not. - Dennis PS: I put WinZip on the context menu because I do document forensics work in checking interoperability problems and inspecting for how ODF is handled for particular cases. -Original Message- From: John B [mailto:jo...@email2.me] Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 06:46 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" To open a selected Document with LibreOffice does anyone know how to make LibraOffice appear in the Windows "Open With" (and stay there). Even when I use the "browse" within the "open with" , then locate LibreOffice manually, it still does not work, as when I click on LibreOffice or Writer (applications), its ignored and the system jumps back to the browsing list. Also Libra Office does not appear in the recommended programs list, whilst OpenOffice does and works fine. Windows XP pro sp3 Libre Office 3.3 & 3.4 John B -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with"
Hi :) Un-installing OpenOffice often cures weird and unlikely problems especially in Windows. There is still often a clash between OpenOffice and LibreOffice when both are installed on a system. There are some clever ways to install both but i don't have a note of any of the various instructions and have not compared their reliability or effectiveness. Often the main problems occur when the Quick Launcher/Starter is enabled within OpenOffice. Even without that they both use the same names on the command-line, such as "soffice --writer" so the scope for errors and confusions is quite high. Usually just using the "Open with .." and then browsing to the relevant program is enough to push that program to the short-list in the "Open with .." option. Regards from Tom :) From: John B To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 14:46:28 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" To open a selected Document with LibreOffice does anyone know how to make LibraOffice appear in the Windows "Open With" (and stay there). Even when I use the "browse" within the "open with" , then locate LibreOffice manually, it still does not work, as when I click on LibreOffice or Writer (applications), its ignored and the system jumps back to the browsing list. Also Libra Office does not appear in the recommended programs list, whilst OpenOffice does and works fine. Windows XP pro sp3 Libre Office 3.3 & 3.4 John B -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with"
I've had no trouble making that work. Typically, I can open any of my .odt/.ods/ ..., files in any of Microsoft Word, whatever version of OO.o/LO that is installed on the same machine, and WinZip using the context menu and "Open With ...". That is, the different ways I have opened an .odt in the past become added to the "Open With ..." menu. I've even had different version of OpenOffice.org in the context menu, but it is hard to tell them apart so I don't try that any longer. I usually have to train "Open With ..." by going to the application the hard way (browse for it in Program Files) the first time, but it seems to remember after that. Remember not to check "make this the default" though. I currently am running in an administrator account on all of the places where I do this. I don't know if that is a factor in getting "Open With ..." to stick or not. - Dennis PS: I put WinZip on the context menu because I do document forensics work in checking interoperability problems and inspecting for how ODF is handled for particular cases. -Original Message- From: John B [mailto:jo...@email2.me] Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 06:46 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" To open a selected Document with LibreOffice does anyone know how to make LibraOffice appear in the Windows "Open With" (and stay there). Even when I use the "browse" within the "open with" , then locate LibreOffice manually, it still does not work, as when I click on LibreOffice or Writer (applications), its ignored and the system jumps back to the browsing list. Also Libra Office does not appear in the recommended programs list, whilst OpenOffice does and works fine. Windows XP pro sp3 Libre Office 3.3 & 3.4 John B -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
