Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress query

2013-05-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
If you use Synaptic to search then maybe spend some time looking at the "lib" 
files.  normally i skae past them without even a glance but sometimes they have 
useful things for pulling 2 apps together or adding unusual functionality into 
an app.  It also might be worth trying to search the Extensions 

http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center
Although i did try quite a few and didn't get any results so maybe don't bother 
this time but it often is useful.  it might be better this time to find the 
OpenOffice Extensions and search them.  With any luck it might work in LO too 
or the dev might respond quickly with an update or idea.  

Good luck!
Regards from 

Tom :)  






>
> From: Brewster Gillett 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013, 17:55
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress query
> 
>
>On Sat, 2013-05-04 at 17:39 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
>
>> Now that the question has been asked i find it unbelievable that no-one has 
>> thought
>> of it before!  It might even have kept me awake during some presentations or 
>> made
>> me aware that i didn't have time to write it all down (which i only tend to 
>> do 
>> to try to keep awake).  If there could be different options such as a 
>> progress-bar
>> (like when loading heavy web-pages or installing programs) or a "launch 
>> count down" 
>> in the last 5-10 seconds or something.  
>
>bg:
>
>Thanks for getting it, Tom. The application, in this case, is a trivia
>tournament; but any time you're using a projected presentation in any
>kind of a testing, or question-presenting mode, that has timing, it 
>would be of potential value. Like you, I am amazed that it seemingly
>hasn't come up before.
>
>I've had Synaptic download and install every little clock app I could
>find, and am going to evaluate them to see which if any might be
>adaptable to the task. I suspect the sticking point will be instructing
>the countdown timer to reset itself and restart. I somehow doubt that
>there are any that are designed to do that. I'm probably also going to
>find that (1) many of them won't have a countdown function, and
>(2) many won't provide a scalable digital display. 
>
>We'll see. 
>
>Meanwhile, like you, I sort of feel that any presentation app should
>natively include such a function.
>
>
>Brewster
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress query

2013-05-04 Thread Brewster Gillett
On Sat, 2013-05-04 at 17:39 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:

> Now that the question has been asked i find it unbelievable that no-one has 
> thought
> of it before!  It might even have kept me awake during some presentations or 
> made
> me aware that i didn't have time to write it all down (which i only tend to 
> do 
> to try to keep awake).  If there could be different options such as a 
> progress-bar
> (like when loading heavy web-pages or installing programs) or a "launch count 
> down" 
> in the last 5-10 seconds or something.  

bg:

Thanks for getting it, Tom. The application, in this case, is a trivia
tournament; but any time you're using a projected presentation in any
kind of a testing, or question-presenting mode, that has timing, it 
would be of potential value. Like you, I am amazed that it seemingly
hasn't come up before.

I've had Synaptic download and install every little clock app I could
find, and am going to evaluate them to see which if any might be
adaptable to the task. I suspect the sticking point will be instructing
the countdown timer to reset itself and restart. I somehow doubt that
there are any that are designed to do that. I'm probably also going to
find that (1) many of them won't have a countdown function, and
(2) many won't provide a scalable digital display. 

We'll see. 

Meanwhile, like you, I sort of feel that any presentation app should
natively include such a function.


Brewster

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress query

2013-05-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
To be fair 

1.  Many people here are not native English speakers.  On the plus side that 
means you often get answers at any hour of the day or night.  Many other 
on-line places rely on US timetables.  

2.  It's a very unusual request.  


Also because this place is almost entirely volunteers we are not seeking to 
close tickets asap.  So, our initial answers are rarely expected to completely 
solve the issue but do often seek out further information or aim to explore the 
parameters of the problem.  We DON'T consider a matter closed after our first 
guess.  Indeed sometimes even after the original poster has let us know the 
problem has been fixed we sometimes go on discussing side-issues, other ways 
around, what to watch out for next, new techniques and so on.  Sometimes that 
leads us to solve half a dozen differnt people's problems in one thread, teach 
a bunch of people new skills (or learn them) AND solve problems before the op 
runs into them.    


I have been to quite a lot of PowerPoint presentations and seen many more and 
Impress ones and i have been on this list for nearly 3 years.  Usually we get 
very similar questions or ones that get fixed with similar approaches.  This is 
the first time i've ever heard of anyone wanting a "Count down" timer on their 
slides!  


Now that the question has been asked i find it unbelievable that no-one has 
thought of it before!  It might even have kept me awake during some 
presentations or made me aware that i didn't have time to write it all down 
(which i only tend to do to try to keep awake).  If there could be different 
options such as a progress-bar (like when loading heavy web-pages or installing 
programs) or a "launch count down" in the last 5-10 seconds or something.  



There was a throw-away remark about "may as well ask for the moon" "unless we 
"learn to do our own coding" as though learning to do the coding is an 
impossibility.  However this project DOES allow people to learn how to, even 
encourages it.  


You don't have to be a brilliantly gifted student studying programming at 
college.  In fact that might even get in the way because apparently formal 
courses don't teach anything about security!  (according to a recent magazine 
report so don't rely on it!)  The LibreOffice way is to learn at your own pace, 
preferably by getting a mentor from the devs mailing list to help guide you and 
with the whole of the devs irc channel.  Some of the devs do get paid and are 
currently working in different companies such as SUSE, Redhat, Google, maybe 
Canonical (and others) and get seconded to TDF to work on LibreOffice as part 
of their paid work.  Generally people are encouraged to work on some of the 
"Easy Hacks"
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Easy_Hacks
at first so that they gain experience, confidence and learn in-house styles 
that may vary between projects normally.  


Just yesterday someone wrote to this list asking for help with his coding work 
as he had independently found a bug, written a coding patch and applied it 
without any help from anyone in the wider community here!  His patch is now 
getting looked at by our devs on their mailing list and may reach QA and may 
get into a future official release of LibreOffice!  Even though i know nothing 
about coding, applying patches or compiling he seemed to appreciate the link i 
was able to give him to help him "compile" his patch.  But as i said you don't 
have to be brilliant like that to get involved with coding.  I imagine a lot of 
it is quite routine and just a case of following orders/instructions/guidance.  


Regards from 

Tom :)  





>
> From: Miss Keating 
>To: b...@fdi.us 
>Cc: lagin...@gmail.com; users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013, 1:41
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress query
> 
>
>To Brewster Gillett:
>
>I can't help with your search for knowledge, but feel impelled to 
>comment on the stunning inability of the gang to comprehend your crystal 
>clear, 
>simple, and obvious description of that which you wish to accomplish.
>
>If your quest advances to the status of "enhancement request", a useful 
>extension would be the ability to set each countdown clock separately, so that 
>different slides could be on display for differing time periods.
>
>You specified a digital counter; I would like the option for an analog 
>clock.  
>
>Since we're not likely to get any of this until we learn how to do our 
>own coding, we may as well ask for the moon.
>
>MK
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress query

2013-05-03 Thread Miss Keating

To Brewster Gillett:

I can't help with your search for knowledge, but feel impelled to 
comment on
the stunning inability of the gang to comprehend your crystal clear, 
simple, and

obvious description of that which you wish to accomplish.

If your quest advances to the status of "enhancement request", a useful 
extension
would be the ability to set each countdown clock separately, so that 
different

slides could be on display for differing time periods.

You specified a digital counter; I would like the option for an analog 
clock.


Since we're not likely to get any of this until we learn how to do our 
own coding,

we may as well ask for the moon.

MK



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress query

2013-05-03 Thread anne-ology
   I'm glad you know what you're after -
   maybe someone else will understand your question.

   As for me, I don't even understand the question  ;-)

   But I have noticed your name -
   makes me wonder if you know where your Brewster originated;
   possibly we're cuz  ;-)

   Yes, my mind tends to wander ... ;-)
   it ignores that which it doesn't wish to know, sticking with
that which makes sense or is mysterious or ... ... ... ;-)



On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Brewster Gillett  wrote:


> > > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Brewster Gillett  wrote:
> > > > Running LO 3.5.7.2 under Ubuntu 12.04
> > > > >
> > > > > How can I insert a live countdown clock display in my slides, tied
> to
> > > > > the "Advance slide" "Automatically after" [ x seconds ]
> instruction?
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2013-05-03 at 12:40 -0500, anne-ology wrote:
> > > > In Impress, you can set each slide to appear at differing times
> > > > or you can set one time for each
> > > >
> > > >Hoping this answers your question,
> > >
> > > bg:
> > >
> > > Though I appreciate the response, no, it doesn't even address the
> > > question I raised, which was,
> > >
> > >  " How can I insert a live countdown clock display in my slides, tied
> to
> > >the "Advance slide" "Automatically after" [ x seconds ]
> instruction?"
> > >
> > > IOW I already know how to set the appearance duration for slides -
> > > what I couldn't find was a way to incorporate a visible countdown
> > > display into the slide to track the timing for the audience.
> > > ...that feature may just not exist, though it sure does seem like
> > > it would be a useful one to have.
> > >
> > > Brewster
>
> On Fri, 2013-05-03 at 13:39 -0500, anne-ology wrote:
> There are numerous clock displays - surely one of these would suit
> > your purpose;
> >just plop the clock into the slide, set its size, and  ;-)
>
> bg:
>
> I fear you have yet to grasp my intent; I have looked at several clocks,
> and saw none offering a countdown with a digital display - but that
> isn't the real question. The real question is how I might go about tying
> a countdown clock function into the slide display interval. So far I
> haven't uncovered any way of doing that without crunching code, which I
> am not nearly skilled enough to do. Actually it wouldn't have to
> communicate with Impress to accomplish that, but it would have to
> be capable of running a *repeating* cycle, once started.
>
> Let me attempt to rephrase what I'm looking for. I need a countdown
> timer (i.e. one that starts at a set interval, displays digital numbers
> following the seconds fown to zero, then resets itself to zero and
> restarts the countdown. It needs to synchronize with the interval set
> by Impress that applies to the on-screen duration of each slide.
> So for example:
>
> *  Slide rolls up on the screen- Impress is set to display it for
>sixty seconds before rolling up the next slide
>
> *  In a corner of the slide appears the countdown clock display - it
>begins at 60, then goes by seconds 59, 58, 57, and down to zero, at
>which point the next slide pops in to replace the previous slide,
>and that next slide *also* displays the countdown timer, beginning
>at 60 seconds, counting down again to zero.
>
> So far I have not located any clock applications which will
> automatically recycle in that fashion. If you know of any, please be so
> good as to supply a reference.
>
> Thanks,
> Brewster
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress query

2013-05-03 Thread Brewster Gillett

> > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Brewster Gillett  wrote:
> > > Running LO 3.5.7.2 under Ubuntu 12.04
> > > >
> > > > How can I insert a live countdown clock display in my slides, tied to
> > > > the "Advance slide" "Automatically after" [ x seconds ] instruction?
> >
> > On Fri, 2013-05-03 at 12:40 -0500, anne-ology wrote:
> > > In Impress, you can set each slide to appear at differing times
> > > or you can set one time for each
> > >
> > >Hoping this answers your question,
> >
> > bg:
> >
> > Though I appreciate the response, no, it doesn't even address the
> > question I raised, which was,
> >
> >  " How can I insert a live countdown clock display in my slides, tied to
> >the "Advance slide" "Automatically after" [ x seconds ] instruction?"
> >
> > IOW I already know how to set the appearance duration for slides -
> > what I couldn't find was a way to incorporate a visible countdown
> > display into the slide to track the timing for the audience.
> > ...that feature may just not exist, though it sure does seem like
> > it would be a useful one to have.
> >
> > Brewster

On Fri, 2013-05-03 at 13:39 -0500, anne-ology wrote:
There are numerous clock displays - surely one of these would suit
> your purpose;
>just plop the clock into the slide, set its size, and  ;-)

bg:

I fear you have yet to grasp my intent; I have looked at several clocks,
and saw none offering a countdown with a digital display - but that
isn't the real question. The real question is how I might go about tying
a countdown clock function into the slide display interval. So far I
haven't uncovered any way of doing that without crunching code, which I
am not nearly skilled enough to do. Actually it wouldn't have to
communicate with Impress to accomplish that, but it would have to
be capable of running a *repeating* cycle, once started.

Let me attempt to rephrase what I'm looking for. I need a countdown
timer (i.e. one that starts at a set interval, displays digital numbers
following the seconds fown to zero, then resets itself to zero and
restarts the countdown. It needs to synchronize with the interval set
by Impress that applies to the on-screen duration of each slide.
So for example:

*  Slide rolls up on the screen- Impress is set to display it for
   sixty seconds before rolling up the next slide

*  In a corner of the slide appears the countdown clock display - it
   begins at 60, then goes by seconds 59, 58, 57, and down to zero, at
   which point the next slide pops in to replace the previous slide,
   and that next slide *also* displays the countdown timer, beginning
   at 60 seconds, counting down again to zero.

So far I have not located any clock applications which will
automatically recycle in that fashion. If you know of any, please be so
good as to supply a reference.

Thanks,


Brewster
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress query

2013-05-03 Thread anne-ology
   There are numerous clock displays - surely one of these would suit
your purpose;
   just plop the clock into the slide, set its size, and  ;-)



On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Brewster Gillett  wrote:

> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Brewster Gillett  wrote:
> > Running LO 3.5.7.2 under Ubuntu 12.04
> > >
> > > How can I insert a live countdown clock display in my slides, tied to
> > > the "Advance slide" "Automatically after" [ x seconds ] instruction?
>
> On Fri, 2013-05-03 at 12:40 -0500, anne-ology wrote:
> > In Impress, you can set each slide to appear at differing times
> > or you can set one time for each
> >
> >Hoping this answers your question,
>
> bg:
>
> Though I appreciate the response, no, it doesn't even address the
> question I raised, which was,
>
>  " How can I insert a live countdown clock display in my slides, tied to
>the "Advance slide" "Automatically after" [ x seconds ] instruction?"
>
> IOW I already know how to set the appearance duration for slides -
> what I couldn't find was a way to incorporate a visible countdown
> display into the slide to track the timing for the audience.
> ...that feature may just not exist, though it sure does seem like
> it would be a useful one to have.
>
> Brewster
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress query

2013-05-03 Thread Brewster Gillett
> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Brewster Gillett  wrote:
> Running LO 3.5.7.2 under Ubuntu 12.04
> >
> > How can I insert a live countdown clock display in my slides, tied to
> > the "Advance slide" "Automatically after" [ x seconds ] instruction?

On Fri, 2013-05-03 at 12:40 -0500, anne-ology wrote:
> In Impress, you can set each slide to appear at differing times
> or you can set one time for each
>   
>Hoping this answers your question,

bg:

Though I appreciate the response, no, it doesn't even address the
question I raised, which was,

 " How can I insert a live countdown clock display in my slides, tied to
   the "Advance slide" "Automatically after" [ x seconds ] instruction?"

IOW I already know how to set the appearance duration for slides -
what I couldn't find was a way to incorporate a visible countdown
display into the slide to track the timing for the audience.
...that feature may just not exist, though it sure does seem like
it would be a useful one to have.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress query

2013-05-03 Thread anne-ology
   In Impress, you can set each slide to appear at differing times
  [after setting overall time - right-hand cue - then go to
individual slide to re-set that's timing];
or you can set one time for each
  [via right-hand cues].

   Hoping this answers your question,




On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Brewster Gillett  wrote:

Running LO 3.5.7.2 under Ubuntu 12.04
>
> I've scoured the help, both internal and on-line. I've pored through
> the FAQs. It may be that no such ability is provided with Impress.
> But I'll ask in case someone here has done it:
>
> How can I insert a live countdown clock display in my slides, tied to
> the "Advance slide" "Automatically after" [ x seconds ] instruction?
>
> IOW I set the above parameter to, say, 60 seconds. When the slide rolls
> up, one corner of it has a prominent digital clock display reading
> "60" which proceeds to follow the timing downwards until it hits "zero",
> at which time the next slide rolls up and the process restarts.
>
> If this feature is in Impress somewhere, I sure couldn't find it.
>
> TIA,
>
> Brewster
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress query

2011-05-31 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It is possible to install both LO and OOo on Ubuntu but it's not trivial.  Some 
people seem to say it's fairly easy but not trivial.  I have no idea but it 
might be possible to search for instructions
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Mike Scott 
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 31 May, 2011 11:46:10
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Impress query

I've had long-standing issues with the smoothness of transitions between slides 
in OOo's Impress, and especially with the custom animation facility often not 
producing correct effects. Can anyone say if the lo version Impress has any 
[known] improvements in this regard please?

(As they don't seem to coexist happily on ubuntu, it's not quite trivial just 
to 
try lo. :-(  )

Thanks.

-- Mike Scott
Harlow, Essex, England

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