Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-09 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Tempers are getting to high now.

We should not attack each other's views on Open Source or MS products.

We each have opinions that the other does not like.  We should not put 
people down because their opinion is not ours.


For me, I do not like mush of what MS is about.  They have some good 
free products out there.  Try I.C.E..  But that should not detract my 
views on MSO or LO.


Using the "M$ fanboy" should not be use as a negative.  Swearing should 
not be done.


Every community has their good and bad, whether you deal with people's 
views or software.  There is many things that are great about open 
source and its community.  But open source is not the only answer.  To 
some people it is not their answer.  We should not judge people because 
of their views.  We should not judge a community by an individual's 
views.  Die-heart MS users are just like die-heart FOSS people.  When 
you have no room for any other view, it tends not to be good to try to 
change their views.  It also is anti-productive to get into a battle of 
words with them.


So personally, I do not like MS anymore.  But they are putting out some 
interesting, free, stuff once and a while.  Also, I do not think open 
source is the only answer, just part of it.  My saying this does not 
make other opinions less than mine, or better.  It is just my opinion 
and I must accept that other people have other opinion.


So EVERYONE, please refrain from name calling and mud slinging.  This 
list is not the place for it.


Here we hope to offer help and sometimes opinions.  We are not the final 
word, since there is not such thing.  We offer information.  We should 
not put others down for their beliefs.  We should be better than that.  
We must be better than that on this public list.


On 09/08/2011 08:26 PM, At0mic wrote:

Onyeibo Oku-2 wrote:

Looks like we have an M$ fanboy. Perhaps U should try some of those
opensource recommendations first and see if they don't perform before
taking a side


See, this is what I don't like about the open-source community. If I express
an opinion that suggests things are NOT completely 100% great about
open-source software and that maybe, just MAYBE, Microsoft knows what
they're doing with regards to software at times, I'm labelled a fanboy.

Jesus fucking Christ look at your self. Microsoft DO make good products at
times. If you keep your blinders on and don't accept some people LIKE using
something such as Windows 7 for example, open-source software will never
compete. I don't understand why I'm now the enemy for not following the
religious fevor of some zealots.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Windows and Gnu&Linux can share the same config folder but you might need 2 
versions of the extensions you use.  You can keep both versions in the same 
folder as each other.  

It is better to set-up the Windows side first and then get the Gnu&Linux side 
to look at the Windows config folder as the Windows side might have extra 
settings that are not needed in Gnu&Linux.  Also Windows is blind to Gnu&Linux 
file-systems whereas Gnu&Linux can easily read/write Ntfs and Fat32, Fat16 and 
the rest.  

I don't think it makes any difference after install but with Gnu&Linux there 
are at least 2 different installers; Rpm & Deb.  It's the same source-code.  
Like the difference between taking your shopping home by car or bike it's all 
the same once it's on your shelves.  I'm not 100% certain about this tho.  

One note about splitting usb-sticks into 2 partitions. The Windows one (Ntfs or 
whatever) needs to be 1st on the stick and needs to be created 1st.  If Windows 
can't find one of it's own partitions at the front of the drive then it assumes 
the drive is unformatted or corrupted.  On normal ide/sata drives and internal 
SSDs it seems to be ok.  

Anyway i think this thread was mostly about the various Windows platforms.  
Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Fri, 9/9/11, Andreas Säger  wrote:

From: Andreas Säger 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external 
drive. ?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 9 September, 2011, 7:10

Am 05.09.2011 02:41, Charles E. LaMonte wrote:
> Greetings Ladies and Gentlemen, Is it possible to install Libre Office on an
> external hard drive ? The computer will have either Windows Operating System 
> or
> Linux Operating System. Thank you.
> 
> 

If you really want to be prepared for Linux desktops with neither OOo nor 
LibreOffice and for Windows desktops as well, then you should divide your disk 
in 2 partitions with one file system for WIndows and another file system for 
Linux, install http://portableapps.com/de/apps/office/libreoffice_portable on 
the Windows file system and copy the LibreOffice folder from your Linux 
installation to the Linux file system.
Adjust bootstraprc according to Regina's suggestion and make sure that the user 
profile is world writable. For the program files read-access is sufficient.
Not sure if and how both programs may even share the same user profile. Once 
upon a time I managed to do this with Thunderbird 1.x.
Anyway, with such a disk the respective operating system can mount the 
respective file system and launch your own copy of LibreOffice if the host 
system allows for execution from plugged block devices.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-08 Thread Onyeibo Oku
On 09/09/2011 01:26, At0mic wrote:

> Onyeibo Oku-2 wrote:
>> Looks like we have an M$ fanboy. Perhaps U should try some of those
>> opensource recommendations first and see if they don't perform before
>> taking a side
>>
> See, this is what I don't like about the open-source community. If I express
> an opinion that suggests things are NOT completely 100% great about
> open-source software and that maybe, just MAYBE, Microsoft knows what
> they're doing with regards to software at times, I'm labelled a fanboy.
>
Sorry for the use of the word "fanboy".  Probably not the best
description but there seemed to be a biased polarization from the way
you compared Thunderbird and Outlook.  Read the quote below (you own
words):


> I notice some people are talking about Thunderbird and other alternatives to
> Outlook.
It implies that those 'talking' or looking at Thunderbird are making a
mistake. Naturally, anybody would ask why?


> I should probably remind some people that Outlook is not just a
> mail client. It has a Calendar, Tasks manager, voting system, and a few
> other titbits that all exist within the same application which gives it a
> very high level of integration. 
And that was the answer.  Is that well researched?  Comparing products
without a fair experience of both is what makes one look like a
'fanboy'.  I use Microsoft Products too and as Planas pointed out, their
OS hosts fantastic games. As an Architect, I use Autodesk products a
lot. We don't have products that compare well with those in Linux world
except for Bricsys' BricsCAD (but that's just for traditional 2D
drafting).


> The problem is that this integration is very
> important for a lot of people in the corporate world, and an adhoc bundling
> of various applications to do the same stuff but not quite as well
> integrated might not sit well with some people, particularly if you can't
> give the same level of functionality.
Here is where some traces of valid point came in,... but you left it off
too soon leaving your subjects to weigh things with the features you
mentioned earlier (which is mostly in Thunderbird).  However, I'm not
sure about Thunderbird is to what extent it can be automated as Outlook
(like most M$ product) supports automation via VBA.  I am also not sure
about collaboration possibilities like with Microsoft Exchange, but that
because I haven't looked into those areas.  So far, I get all I need
from Thunderbird -- especially those you sited as features in Outlook


> Jesus fucking Christ look at your self. Microsoft DO make good products at
> times. 
I wasn't disagreeing with that. But I do have a problem with that first
sentence. "Jesus" and "Christ" are names held sacred by some people.
Putting "fucking" in-between? ...well, please this thread has people
from different spheres of life. Consider all.


> If you keep your blinders on and don't accept some people LIKE using
> something such as Windows 7 for example, open-source software will never
> compete. I don't understand why I'm now the enemy for not following the
> religious fevor of some zealots.
Its like telling the people looking at LibreOffice Calc to consider that
M$-Excel has a lot of features that appeal to the corporate world,
without recognizing that most of the examples sited to support your POV
are actually functional in Calc!



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-08 Thread Onyeibo Oku
On 09/09/2011 01:26, At0mic wrote:
> 
> Onyeibo Oku-2 wrote:
>>
>> Looks like we have an M$ fanboy. Perhaps U should try some of those
>> opensource recommendations first and see if they don't perform before
>> taking a side
>>
> See, this is what I don't like about the open-source community. If I express
> an opinion that suggests things are NOT completely 100% great about
> open-source software and that maybe, just MAYBE, Microsoft knows what
> they're doing with regards to software at times, I'm labelled a fanboy.
> 

Sorry for the use of the word "fanboy".  Probably not the best
description but there seemed to be a biased polarization from the way
you compared Thunderbird and Outlook.  Read the quote below (you own
words):

> I notice some people are talking about Thunderbird and other alternatives to
> Outlook.

It implies that those 'talking' or looking at Thunderbird are making a
mistake. Naturally, anybody would ask why?

> I should probably remind some people that Outlook is not just a
> mail client. It has a Calendar, Tasks manager, voting system, and a few
> other titbits that all exist within the same application which gives it a
> very high level of integration. 

And that was the answer.  Is that well researched?  Comparing products
without a fair experience of both is what makes one look like a
'fanboy'.  I use Microsoft Products too and as Planas pointed out, their
OS hosts fantastic games. As an Architect, I use Autodesk products a
lot. We don't have products that compare well with those in Linux world
except for Bricsys' BricsCAD (but that's just for traditional 2D
drafting).

> The problem is that this integration is very
> important for a lot of people in the corporate world, and an adhoc bundling
> of various applications to do the same stuff but not quite as well
> integrated might not sit well with some people, particularly if you can't
> give the same level of functionality.

Here is where some traces of valid point came in,... but you left it off
too soon leaving your subjects to weigh things with the features you
mentioned earlier (which is mostly in Thunderbird).  However, I'm not
sure about Thunderbird is to what extent it can be automated as Outlook
(like most M$ product) supports automation via VBA.  I am also not sure
about collaboration possibilities like with Microsoft Exchange, but that
because I haven't looked into those areas.  So far, I get all I need
from Thunderbird -- especially those you sited as features in Outlook

> Jesus fucking Christ look at your self. Microsoft DO make good products at
> times. 

I wasn't disagreeing with that. But I do have a problem with that first
sentence. "Jesus" and "Christ" are names held sacred by some people.
Putting "fucking" in-between? ...well, please this thread has people
from different spheres of life. Consider all.

> If you keep your blinders on and don't accept some people LIKE using
> something such as Windows 7 for example, open-source software will never
> compete. I don't understand why I'm now the enemy for not following the
> religious fevor of some zealots.

Its like telling the people looking at LibreOffice Calc to consider that
M$-Excel has a lot of features that appeal to the corporate world,
without recognizing that most of the examples sited to support your POV
are actually functional in Calc!


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-08 Thread planas
Atomic

On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 17:26 -0700, At0mic wrote: 

> Onyeibo Oku-2 wrote:
> > 
> > Looks like we have an M$ fanboy. Perhaps U should try some of those
> > opensource recommendations first and see if they don't perform before
> > taking a side
> > 
> See, this is what I don't like about the open-source community. If I express
> an opinion that suggests things are NOT completely 100% great about
> open-source software and that maybe, just MAYBE, Microsoft knows what
> they're doing with regards to software at times, I'm labelled a fanboy.
> 
> Jesus fucking Christ look at your self. Microsoft DO make good products at
> times. If you keep your blinders on and don't accept some people LIKE using
> something such as Windows 7 for example, open-source software will never
> compete. I don't understand why I'm now the enemy for not following the
> religious fevor of some zealots.


I personally (emphasis personally) prefer and promote FLOSS/Linux when
appropriate. However there are situations where Windows applications are
better particularly in gaming and some cad/cam software.

My objections to Windows is it is relatively slow compared to many Linux
distros (I have dual boot system). Also, for me, almost everything I do
can be done easily in Linux. But not everyone is a position to were this
is true. However, this does not mean that software is automatically bad
because MS produced it.

Many of the legacy problems in Windows actually can be traced back to
IBM blundering when they introduced the PC in 1981. IBM was set to
release the PC and did not have an OS, so they asked MS to provide one
on short notice. MS located, licensed, and later bought the rights to
DOS. Backward compatibility means that some poor design decisions in the
original DOS are lingering in Windows to this day. If anyone really
wants to point fingers about Windows, ask IBM how they planned for users
to use a computer without an OS, I have often wonder about this.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It is great to hear that the portable apps uses a fairly normal folder.  I had 
assumed they hid  them in some horribly compressed file on an almost 
unreachable path.  So, this means that a LibreOffice installed on a hard-drive 
could be made to point at the same config folder on the usb-stick.  

So, it's only the extensions stored in those folders that might not work on the 
different platforms. I thought extensions were in the same format on all 
platforms but apparently not.  

LibreOffice has such a tiny and insignificant share of the market that MS has 
not even started to try fighting against it.  They will once LO starts to 
threaten their bottom-line but we are a long way off from that.  Although there 
are a few things that cause us problems they really haven't even flexed yet.  

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 8/9/11, jebw...@gmail.com  wrote:

From: jebw...@gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an 
external drive. ?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 8 September, 2011, 16:20

It has never ceased to amaze me how a select few individuals in key positions 
in corporations are permitted to form a self-sustaining interlocked stance on 
the use of MS Office suite due to their inability to accept they are able learn 
other ways of conducting business.

MS Office has been constructed to permeate the worlds major corporations 
because, among other things, it offers this group an easy transition from one 
company to another.  I suspect their main selling point in interviews is that, 
'yes' they know how to use Outlook to send email and use its calendar to keep 
track of which meeting they are supposed to be in next.

When consulting on available options they always balk at implementation of more 
cost effective (read: FREE) platforms and when doing so whine, 'well the other 
guys all use it'.  Of course as they actually voice it in terms like, 'all our 
business associates use it therefore we must as well'.  Self-supporting 
hogwash.  Personally, I stepped away from Office because, when testing 
Thunderbird ten years ago, found emails deleted in Outlook, were never actually 
removed from the PST file.  They were simply hidden from the User.

I suspect those at the executive level, like so many others, are simply 
reluctant to try a new platform out of fear they won't be able to understand 
how to use it.  Mentality akin to what makes children check under the bed for 
monsters.  Fear.

As for Microsoft, if they lost the strangle hold they have gained through the 
Office Suite of applications. They very well may tumble from the lofty heights 
and actually have to produce a competitive product. They don't have to do so 
with their operating systems because of the back room deals made with PC makers 
by which they enforce their own rule of, 'a PC has to come with an Operating 
System'.

So my reply is tethered properly to this threads topic: Yes, Libre Office can 
be installed on an External Drive.  The folks at PortableApps.com have two 
'LibreOffice Portable' packages available.  One for English only (120mb DL, 
260-413mb installed) and one for all languages (145mb DL, 516-776mb installed). 
Whose features are described in part as:
> LibreOffice Portable is a full-featured office suite that's compatible with 
> Microsoft Office, Word Perfect, Lotus and other office applications. It's 
> easy-to-use and feature-rich, performing nearly all of the functions you'd 
> expect in an office suite, but at no cost.

They also offer support on how to copy your local LO settings to LO Portable.  
It requires Users find and copy: /C:\Documents and Settings\[user]\Application 
Data\LibreOffice\/  to the LibreOfficePortable\Data\settings\ directory.  So 
the difficulty level requires one find the \LO\data folder on the external 
drive and perform a copy function.

On 9/8/2011 1:55 AM, Bruce Carlson wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: At0mic [mailto:atomicbutterfl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 3:57 PM
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an
> external drive. ?
> 
>> I notice some people are talking about Thunderbird and other alternatives
> to Outlook. I should probably remind some people that Outlook is not just a
> mail client. It has a Calendar, Tasks manager, voting system, and>a few
> other titbits that all exist within the same application which gives it a
> very high level of integration. The problem is that this integration is very
> important for a lot of people in the corporate world, and an ad hoc
>> bundling of various applications to do the same stuff but not quite as well
> integrated might not sit well with some people, particularly if you can't
> give the same level of functionality.
> 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-08 Thread jebw...@gmail.com
It has never ceased to amaze me how a select few individuals in key 
positions in corporations are permitted to form a self-sustaining 
interlocked stance on the use of MS Office suite due to their inability 
to accept they are able learn other ways of conducting business.


MS Office has been constructed to permeate the worlds major corporations 
because, among other things, it offers this group an easy transition 
from one company to another.  I suspect their main selling point in 
interviews is that, 'yes' they know how to use Outlook to send email and 
use its calendar to keep track of which meeting they are supposed to be 
in next.


When consulting on available options they always balk at implementation 
of more cost effective (read: FREE) platforms and when doing so whine, 
'well the other guys all use it'.  Of course as they actually voice it 
in terms like, 'all our business associates use it therefore we must as 
well'.  Self-supporting hogwash.  Personally, I stepped away from Office 
because, when testing Thunderbird ten years ago, found emails deleted in 
Outlook, were never actually removed from the PST file.  They were 
simply hidden from the User.


I suspect those at the executive level, like so many others, are simply 
reluctant to try a new platform out of fear they won't be able to 
understand how to use it.  Mentality akin to what makes children check 
under the bed for monsters.  Fear.


As for Microsoft, if they lost the strangle hold they have gained 
through the Office Suite of applications. They very well may tumble from 
the lofty heights and actually have to produce a competitive product. 
They don't have to do so with their operating systems because of the 
back room deals made with PC makers by which they enforce their own rule 
of, 'a PC has to come with an Operating System'.


So my reply is tethered properly to this threads topic: Yes, Libre 
Office can be installed on an External Drive.  The folks at 
PortableApps.com have two 'LibreOffice Portable' packages available.  
One for English only (120mb DL, 260-413mb installed) and one for all 
languages (145mb DL, 516-776mb installed). Whose features are described 
in part as:
LibreOffice Portable is a full-featured office suite that's compatible 
with Microsoft Office, Word Perfect, Lotus and other office 
applications. It's easy-to-use and feature-rich, performing nearly all 
of the functions you'd expect in an office suite, but at no cost.


They also offer support on how to copy your local LO settings to LO 
Portable.  It requires Users find and copy: /C:\Documents and 
Settings\[user]\Application Data\LibreOffice\/  to the 
LibreOfficePortable\Data\settings\ directory.  So the difficulty level 
requires one find the \LO\data folder on the external drive and perform 
a copy function.


On 9/8/2011 1:55 AM, Bruce Carlson wrote:

-Original Message-
From: At0mic [mailto:atomicbutterfl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 3:57 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an
external drive. ?


I notice some people are talking about Thunderbird and other alternatives

to Outlook. I should probably remind some people that Outlook is not just a
mail client. It has a Calendar, Tasks manager, voting system, and>a few
other titbits that all exist within the same application which gives it a
very high level of integration. The problem is that this integration is very
important for a lot of people in the corporate world, and an ad hoc

bundling of various applications to do the same stuff but not quite as well

integrated might not sit well with some people, particularly if you can't
give the same level of functionality.


Outlook is what it is not just for the email side of things.

This is precisely why outlook is the only MS application I have installed on
my work machines. Apart from development environments, VS 2003,2005,2008&
2010 and what comes bundled with windows stupid  I mean windows 7. Most
of which I don't use anyway.
With the entire company using an MS exchange server and sharing calendars
and contacts I'm forced to use outlook. Let's face it, not everything
microsoft do is bad. Just most things.

The problems with Microsoft come when you have bulk licencing agreements and
are forced to install their products to comply with their licences. Then
management says "We're paying for the licence, we may as well use it." This
makes change very difficult.

Cheers,

>From
Bruce Carlson.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-08 Thread Onyeibo Oku
Looks like we have an M$ fanboy. Perhaps U should try some of those opensource 
recommendations first and see if they don't perform before taking a side

I migrated from Outlook to thunderbird (it now comes with Lightning on Fedora). 
I have my calender, tasks and mails working fine and I'm sure there are a lot 
of plugins for many other tasks that immigrants would want to use.

I was also using evolution for all that until, well, it got too buggy. But 
before then Evo was just another Outlook. I'm happy with status quo as of now 
... Thunderbird is very stable

-
from twohot@device.mobile :)

-Original Message-
From: At0mic 
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 22:56:58 
To: 
Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external 
drive. ?

I notice some people are talking about Thunderbird and other alternatives to
Outlook. I should probably remind some people that Outlook is not just a
mail client. It has a Calendar, Tasks manager, voting system, and a few
other titbits that all exist within the same application which gives it a
very high level of integration. The problem is that this integration is very
important for a lot of people in the corporate world, and an ad hoc bundling
of various applications to do the same stuff but not quite as well
integrated might not sit well with some people, particularly if you can't
give the same level of functionality.

Outlook is what it is not just for the email side of things.

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-07 Thread Bruce Carlson
-Original Message-
From: At0mic [mailto:atomicbutterfl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 3:57 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an
external drive. ?

>I notice some people are talking about Thunderbird and other alternatives
to Outlook. I should probably remind some people that Outlook is not just a
mail client. It has a Calendar, Tasks manager, voting system, and >a few
other titbits that all exist within the same application which gives it a
very high level of integration. The problem is that this integration is very
important for a lot of people in the corporate world, and an ad hoc
>bundling of various applications to do the same stuff but not quite as well
integrated might not sit well with some people, particularly if you can't
give the same level of functionality.

>Outlook is what it is not just for the email side of things.

This is precisely why outlook is the only MS application I have installed on
my work machines. Apart from development environments, VS 2003,2005,2008 &
2010 and what comes bundled with windows stupid  I mean windows 7. Most
of which I don't use anyway.
With the entire company using an MS exchange server and sharing calendars
and contacts I'm forced to use outlook. Let's face it, not everything
microsoft do is bad. Just most things.

The problems with Microsoft come when you have bulk licencing agreements and
are forced to install their products to comply with their licences. Then
management says "We're paying for the licence, we may as well use it." This
makes change very difficult.

Cheers,

>From 
Bruce Carlson.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-06 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ahh, i like that one :)  I have a tiny usb-stick (150Mb) with a full install of 
SliTaz on it and a couple of massive (8Gb) ones with Ubuntu.  I carefully made 
it so that Grub installed to the MBR of the usb-stick instead of to sda but 
they 
kinda wanted to default to the usb-stick anyway so that was fairly easy :)  I 
am 
trying to sort a LiveUsb stick with a large enough persistent file that i can 
install various things i need.  It's a struggle because i don't want my boss to 
notice me setting it up on one of the idle machines at work.  


Another route might be to have the portable apps version of LibreOffice for use 
on Windows machines and the 2 main installers for Gnu&Linux, ie the debs and 
the 
rpms.  Then  having the config folder on the usb-stick should hopefully mean 
that LibreOffice works the same whichever machine you use.  The same config 
folder can be used for both Windows and Gnu&Linux apparently.  

~/.libreoffice/3/user
or something like that.  The trick is trying to find your config folder and 
then 
find a way of changing the 

Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Paths
to point at your config folder.  Remember to switch it back when you are done 
if 
other people use LibreOffice on that machine!  Is it possible to have 2 user 
profiles set in some way?
Regards from
Tom :)






From: nvrk 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 6 September, 2011 3:38:46
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an 
external drive. ?

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Twayne  wrote:

> In news:loom.20110905t023739-...@post.gmane.org,
> Charles E. LaMonte  typed:
> > Greetings Ladies and Gentlemen, Is it possible to install
> > Libre Office on an external hard drive ? The computer
> > will have either Windows Operating System or Linux
> > Operating System. Thank you.
>
> Yes. Or course, some parts that must reside on the boot drive will still go
> to the boot drive as with any other app.
>
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My solution is to install Linux (Ubuntu or Mint in my case) on the external
drive.  If the computer used does not have a built in external drive boot
capability then use PLOP or SuperGrubDisk and boot either of these from the
CDRom.
nvsoar

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-05 Thread nvrk
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Twayne  wrote:

> In news:loom.20110905t023739-...@post.gmane.org,
> Charles E. LaMonte  typed:
> > Greetings Ladies and Gentlemen, Is it possible to install
> > Libre Office on an external hard drive ? The computer
> > will have either Windows Operating System or Linux
> > Operating System. Thank you.
>
> Yes. Or course, some parts that must reside on the boot drive will still go
> to the boot drive as with any other app.
>
>
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My solution is to install Linux (Ubuntu or Mint in my case) on the external
drive.  If the computer used does not have a built in external drive boot
capability then use PLOP or SuperGrubDisk and boot either of these from the
CDRom.
nvsoar

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-05 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Säger schrieb:

Thank you Regina,

Under Linux the file is named bootstraprc and looks like this:

[Bootstrap]
BaseInstallation=${OOO_BASE_DIR}
InstallMode=
ProductKey=LibreOffice 3.3
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.libreoffice/3
[ErrorReport]
ErrorReportPort=80
ErrorReportServer=


Obviously, $SYSUSERCONFIG points to the respective user's home directory.


Yes.



Where would the following path point to when bootstraprc is in
/media/disk2/libreoffice/program?
UserInstallation=$OOO_BASE_DIR/.libreoffice/3
In other words: Where are the script variables documented? (OOo
documentation seems to be falling apart now)


I don't know. I use the variable $ORIGIN which points to the place where 
the bootstap.ini file itself is. Completely

for user directory inside the same folder as the installation
UserInstallation=$ORIGIN/..

or for user directory as neighbor to installation.
UserInstallation=$ORIGIN/../..

Both makes sense for an installation on an external device.

But to make it clear, I have shown methods
(1) Use an already installed soffice.exe and change the call to use your 
personal user directory which is on your external device. -> use 
parameter -env:Installation=
Addition: Pathes have to be written in special notation for example 
-env:UserInstallation=file:///e:/myLO/LOuser


(2) Use an administrative installation on your external device -> change 
bootstrap.ini


Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-05 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Säger schrieb:

Some years ago I copied the /opt/openoffice.org2/ directory to an USB stick
and ran /opt/openoffice.org2/program/soffice on another Linux machine which
allowed starting executables from external drives. The office started
creating a new user profile since there was no profile before. Missing file
name associations should not hinder anybody to open the right files with the
right program.

There must be a configuration setting which lets you reuse the same user
profile and extensions on the mobile block device.


It is a parameter in the call, for example for Windows
program\soffice.exe" -env:UserInstallation=directory>


If there is no portable version yet, you can make an administrative 
installation and tweak the file bootstrap.ini (Windows) to point to a 
user directory next to the installation.


Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can Libre Office be installed on an external drive. ?

2011-09-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Never tried running "directly" from the /opt/ folder[s] on a different 
drive before.  I usually just deal with the "Applications" menu/link system.


On 09/05/2011 08:15 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:

Some years ago I copied the /opt/openoffice.org2/ directory to an USB stick
and ran /opt/openoffice.org2/program/soffice on another Linux machine which
allowed starting executables from external drives. The office started
creating a new user profile since there was no profile before. Missing file
name associations should not hinder anybody to open the right files with the
right program.

There must be a configuration setting which lets you reuse the same user
profile and extensions on the mobile block device.
Nevertheless, I think that all Linux desktops have some ODF capable software
installed so nobody really needs a mobile version for Linux (apart from
macro junkies of course).

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