Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Export Issues (Gallery, Template)

2012-09-04 Thread Heikki Jussila
Hi,
I was looking about the font issue and it seems that all OS-systems
(Windows, Mac, Gnu Linux) handle fonts differently. On windows they are
installed on OS level and in many cases you need to be administrator to do
font install. With Windows XP that was not a problem, since all users
almost always had admin rights, but with Vista and Win 7 this has changed.
You might be able to install on local level also with normal user rights
but I do not know since I have never done that.

On mac according to apple support pages the font locations are different
and have different impacts to users, try to see the followinng link.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2435

On linux you can install fonts on users level in a hidden .fonts folder
(usrxx/.fonts) that are then used by LO, but it would mean that probably
all you users would need to install you core fonts so that they stay the
same. In Linux the main folder for fonts is ~/.fonts/

LO as program AFAIK does not carry a special font folder, but looking into
the userProfile might give you a possibility to see if that is a
possibility or not.

I do not currently have LO installed (since the  shlxthdl.dll of version
3.6.0 started doing stupid things and crashed the windows occasionally), so
I had to uninstall it.

Regards,
Heikki Jussila
freelance researcher and geographer



On 4 September 2012 15:42, jazzon c.jaso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tom,
 My thanks for the response.
 Copying some folders from the Profile section does in fact seem to be an
 option, however there is a large caveat there.  Much of our 'official'
 material starts with being created by unofficial users (think people who
 edit wikis here), and while we could get the internal file which represents
 the gallery on that users computer, the names are randomized and not very
 long, so name collisions are possible.  Additionally, I need to find out
 how
 (if) L.O. copies the artwork for a gallery to a specific spot, or if the
 'gallery file' simply acts as a data base containing records of the paths
 to
 the images.  If this is so (and I believe it is), then while our transfers
 from the main server to the users could be intelligently bundled, anything
 being submitted to us might be scrambled due to files stored in other
 places
 not having been added to the archive sent to us.  And then when we add it
 to
 an archive, and our central server makes it available, and the original
 user
 updates their copy, they wind up with duplicate files.  Some of our users
 are pretty prolific so that could become a real issue.  Of course now that
 I
 wrote all that I realize that will be a matter of educating our users and
 is
 not a problem for here.

 So you have solved my first problem for me, now if someone could figure out
 the font thing I would be very appreciative.

 Thanks again Tom

 Jase



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Export Issues (Gallery, Template)

2012-09-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Weird.  I have always assumed the gallery contained images.  I dunno where they 
really are now!  

Hopefully webmaster from Kracked Press might be able to help with the fonts 
issue.  I don't think it's as simple as just installing them in the OS.  I 
think that is just 1 step in the process.  Luckily most fonts install by just 
double-clicking on them in whatever OS you happen to be in.  
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: jazzon c.jaso...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2012, 18:04
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Export Issues (Gallery, Template)
 
My thanks to all of you for your help with this issue, especially the mac
information since it is the one OS I am TOTALLY unfamiliar with.

Solution I came up with from this information and my own research shows that
on windows the fonts have to be installed at the OS level (as reported here
by Heikki and Miroslaw), and Linux (most of them anyway) can handle the
~/.fonts method.

Mac is similar with  ~/Library/Fonts/ as a user level font location.

Best solution for windows is in the share folder of the installation I
guess, that way just Libre gets them and the kids doing their homework on
Brand X's product don't get confused by a system wide install  (would be bad
if their teacher couldn't read the homework due to unavailability of
fonts...).

The gallery issue is just going to be a pain.  So I am writting an
instructional paper right now to 'teach' all of our users to handle their
images like this:
1.) Before putting it in the document put it in 
      - Windows: %APPDATA%\LibreOffice\3\user\gallery\projectIDCode\
      - Linux: ~/.config/libreoffice/3/user/ gallery/projectIDCode/
      - Mac OS X: ~/Library/Application Support/libreoffice/3/user/
gallery/projectIDCode/
2.)  Create the gallery if its new.
3.)  Import the gallery folder.
4.)  Add the image to the file.

This way when galleries need to be updated all we need is the folder of
images and instructions on what folder to unpack them into, and simply
create the gallery new with the correct name, or reimport that directory.

So I guess my questions are all answered but one...who do I poke at to get
user level font control installed in the next major release?

Thank you again every one
Jase



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