Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my extensions

2012-06-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I thought it was possible to copy user-profiles between different machines?  
Even between ones running different OSes?  Is it not possible to copypaste the 
Extensions folder from the old folder position to the new one?  Something like 
the equivalent of 

cp 
/Users/user name/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/3/user 
/Users/user name/Library/Application Support/config/LibreOffice/3/user


Errr, i know you know cp = copy on a GnuLinux command-line but i don't know 
the equivalent in Mac.  I would probably do this the clickdrag gui way tbh.  
Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Sun, 3/6/12, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my 
extensions
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 3 June, 2012, 9:47

Le 02/06/12 16:52, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit :

Hi,

 I just noticed that EVERY extension that I had installed were not
 carried over to 3.5.4, even though during the install process the status
 wording looked like it was going to.
 
 So, it that an error for 3.4.6 to 3.5.4 or was that a part of the 3.3.x
 to 3.4.x upgrading as well?
 

I have seen this in many of the upgrade installations on Mac - each
time I have to either delete my user profile or re-install the
extensions, and I'm getting fed up with it.


Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my extensions

2012-06-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I thought it was possible to copy user-profiles between different machines?  
Even between ones running different OSes?  Is it not possible to copypaste the 
Extensions folder from the old folder position to the new one?  Something like 
the equivalent of 

cp 
/Users/user name/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/3/user 
/Users/user name/Library/Application Support/config/LibreOffice/3/user


Errr, i know you know cp = copy on a GnuLinux command-line but i don't know 
the equivalent in Mac.  I would probably do this the clickdrag gui way tbh.  
Can you do soemthing like this on Macs?  Do you have old back-ups of your user 
profile at a point when it was working well?  
Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Sun, 3/6/12, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my 
extensions
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 3 June, 2012, 9:47

Le 02/06/12 16:52, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit :

Hi,

 I just noticed that EVERY extension that I had installed were not
 carried over to 3.5.4, even though during the install process the status
 wording looked like it was going to.
 
 So, it that an error for 3.4.6 to 3.5.4 or was that a part of the 3.3.x
 to 3.4.x upgrading as well?
 

I have seen this in many of the upgrade installations on Mac - each
time I have to either delete my user profile or re-install the
extensions, and I'm getting fed up with it.


Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my extensions

2012-06-03 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


Tom
as the OP of this thread, my real issue was while it was upgrading the 
status text indicated to me that is was going to transfer my user 
profile info and such.  It did not do the proper job if it decided to 
transfer only the user name and other such data, and not all of the 
extensions he/she relies on.


I thin someone said that the 3.5.x like uses a different folder for the 
user data.  If so, maybe there is an error in the copying of that info 
to the new folder before that old folder was erased.


I have not tried this 3.4.6 to 3.5.4 on a Ubuntu system, only a WinXP 
laptop.  There must be a fix to this issue.


Can you imagine what a business type of user has to go through to move 
10, 50, 100 machines, using Windows, from 3.4.6 to a 3.5.x version if 
they have to reinstall ALL of their extensions, along with dealing with 
the custom install process to not have every single language dictionary 
possible during install automatically installed?



On 06/03/2012 05:04 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I thought it was possible to copy user-profiles between different machines?  Even 
between ones running different OSes?  Is it not possible to copypaste the 
Extensions folder from the old folder position to the new one?  Something like the 
equivalent of

cp
/Users/user name/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/3/user
/Users/user name/Library/Application Support/config/LibreOffice/3/user


Errr, i know you know cp = copy on a GnuLinux command-line but i don't know the equivalent in Mac.  I would probably do this the clickdrag gui way tbh.  Can you do soemthing like this on Macs?  Do you have old back-ups of your user profile at a point when it was working well? 
Regards from
Tom :) 



--- On Sun, 3/6/12, Alexander Thurgoodalex.thurg...@gmail.com  wrote:

From: Alexander Thurgoodalex.thurg...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my 
extensions
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 3 June, 2012, 9:47

Le 02/06/12 16:52, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit :

Hi,


I just noticed that EVERY extension that I had installed were not
carried over to 3.5.4, even though during the install process the status
wording looked like it was going to.

So, it that an error for 3.4.6 to 3.5.4 or was that a part of the 3.3.x
to 3.4.x upgrading as well?


I have seen this in many of the upgrade installations on Mac - each
time I have to either delete my user profile or re-install the
extensions, and I'm getting fed up with it.


Alex





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my extensions

2012-06-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
The 3.5.x branch definitely does use a different folder for the users 
settings.  For soem reason i got confused and gave the old and the new paths 
for Macs but the Windows pathname change is similar.  For pre-Vista versions of 
Windows it used to be


C:\Documents and Settings\user name\Application Data\LibreOffice\3\user\



But with the 3.5.x has changed to

C:\Documents and Settings\user name\Application 
Data\config\LibreOffice\3\user\



If the upgrade process is claiming that it copies the folders and then doesn't 
that is really bad.  If it still deletes the old folder than it's appalling!  
Losing data is one of the worst things that can happen in any system!  Time for 
you to post a bug-report if you can!
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

I still haven't tested the upgrade feature.  I uninstall the old one and then 
'reinstall' the new and then remember i was meant to take a copy of the first 
UserProfile folder and cuss and then do the least amount possible to set-up the 
profile but inevitably forget 1 or a few users and cuss again.  Luckily it's 
only about a dozen machines now but i really need to be more organised so i can 
scale-up or at least do it more reliably and faster.    
Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Sun, 3/6/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my 
extensions
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 3 June, 2012, 15:12


Tom
as the OP of this thread, my real issue was while it was upgrading the status 
text indicated to me that is was going to transfer my user profile info and 
such.  It did not do the proper job if it decided to transfer only the user 
name and other such data, and not all of the extensions he/she relies on.

I think someone said that the 3.5.x branch uses a different folder/path for the 
user data.  If so, maybe there is an error in the copying of that info to the 
new folder before that old folder was erased.

I have not tried this 3.4.6 to 3.5.4 on a Ubuntu system, only a WinXP laptop.  
There must be a fix to this issue.

Can you imagine what a business type of user has to go through to move 10, 50, 
100 machines, using Windows, from 3.4.6 to a 3.5.x version if they have to 
reinstall ALL of their extensions, along with dealing with the custom install 
process to not have every single language dictionary possible during install 
automatically installed?


On 06/03/2012 05:04 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 I thought it was possible to copy user-profiles between different machines?  
 Even between ones running different OSes?  Is it not possible to copypaste 
 the Extensions folder from the old folder position to the new one?  Something 
 like the equivalent of
 
 cp
 /Users/user name/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/3/user
 /Users/user name/Library/Application Support/config/LibreOffice/3/user
 
 
 Errr, i know you know cp = copy on a GnuLinux command-line but i don't know 
 the equivalent in Mac.  I would probably do this the clickdrag gui way tbh.  
 Can you do soemthing like this on Macs?  Do you have old back-ups of your 
 user profile at a point when it was working well? Regards from
 Tom :) 
 
 --- On Sun, 3/6/12, Alexander Thurgoodalex.thurg...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 From: Alexander Thurgoodalex.thurg...@gmail.com
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my 
 extensions
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Sunday, 3 June, 2012, 9:47
 
 Le 02/06/12 16:52, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit :
 
 Hi,
 
 I just noticed that EVERY extension that I had installed were not
 carried over to 3.5.4, even though during the install process the status
 wording looked like it was going to.
 
 So, it that an error for 3.4.6 to 3.5.4 or was that a part of the 3.3.x
 to 3.4.x upgrading as well?
 
 I have seen this in many of the upgrade installations on Mac - each
 time I have to either delete my user profile or re-install the
 extensions, and I'm getting fed up with it.
 
 
 Alex
 
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my extensions

2012-06-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ouch!  I'm glad we have managed to avoid saying it sucks!  (oops)

I was really hoping the sensible way would work.  Ideally i had imagined 
copying the old user-profile all around the place and then installing the newer 
LO so that 'a few' (hopefully not too many) settings might get changed or 
added.  I'm sure it has worked for me but i haven't been taking much notice 
tbh.  

Mostly i just reconfigure whichever machine i happen to be hot-desking on but 
not in a structured and planned way.  I've noticed users who complain about a 
thing not being set a certain way tend to set it back after i take the trouble 
to set it up the way they said they wanted.  So, i tend to set things the way i 
prefer on my logins and leave them to it.  I need to be more organised though.  
The xcu thing looks interesting.  

Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Sun, 3/6/12, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:

From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my 
extensions
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 3 June, 2012, 16:26

Am 03.06.2012 11:28, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
 Le 03/06/12 11:03, Tom Davies a écrit :
 
 Hi Tom,
 
 Hi :)
 I thought it was possible to copy user-profiles between different machines?  
 Even between ones running different OSes?  Is it not possible to copypaste 
 the Extensions folder from the old folder position to the new one?  
 Something like the equivalent of
 
 In theory, yes. In practice, YMMV. I always now systematically rename my
 LO user profile before installing a new version, then install the new
 version, start it once, and then replace the user profile created with
 my previously backed up one. It sucks that one should have to do this in
 order to preseve one's settings. I know of no other app where this is
 the case.
 

IMHO, this is completely inacceptable because this program's productivity 
depends very much on customization.
You can zip your profile and send it to the developers with detailed info about 
your system and which upgrade was spoiled by that particular profile.
According to exprerience with parallel installations, extensions are the main 
culprit. You may try to remove all your additional extensions before 
installation and see if this helps somehow.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my extensions

2012-06-03 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


What I hated was the status text seemed to tell me that the profile [all 
of it] was being transfered over.  I thought that part of your profile 
was the extensions you added.  I know if I delete the .libreoffice file 
in Ubuntu you loose the link to your added extensions.   DID 3.5.x 
replace the folder name or change where the information is stored?


On 06/03/2012 11:48 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Ouch!  I'm glad we have managed to avoid saying it sucks!  (oops)

I was really hoping the sensible way would work.  Ideally i had imagined copying the old user-profile all around the place and then installing the newer LO so that 'a few' (hopefully not too many) settings might get changed or added.  I'm sure it has worked for me but i haven't been taking much notice tbh. 

Mostly i just reconfigure whichever machine i happen to be hot-desking on but not in a structured and planned way.  I've noticed users who complain about a thing not being set a certain way tend to set it back after i take the trouble to set it up the way they said they wanted.  So, i tend to set things the way i prefer on my logins and leave them to it.  I need to be more organised though.  The xcu thing looks interesting. 


Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Sun, 3/6/12, Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de  wrote:

From: Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my 
extensions
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 3 June, 2012, 16:26

Am 03.06.2012 11:28, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

Le 03/06/12 11:03, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi Tom,


Hi :)
I thought it was possible to copy user-profiles between different machines?  Even 
between ones running different OSes?  Is it not possible to copypaste the 
Extensions folder from the old folder position to the new one?  Something like the 
equivalent of

In theory, yes. In practice, YMMV. I always now systematically rename my
LO user profile before installing a new version, then install the new
version, start it once, and then replace the user profile created with
my previously backed up one. It sucks that one should have to do this in
order to preseve one's settings. I know of no other app where this is
the case.


IMHO, this is completely inacceptable because this program's productivity 
depends very much on customization.
You can zip your profile and send it to the developers with detailed info about 
your system and which upgrade was spoiled by that particular profile.
According to exprerience with parallel installations, extensions are the main 
culprit. You may try to remove all your additional extensions before 
installation and see if this helps somehow.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my extensions

2012-06-03 Thread Jonathon Waterman


webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:


What I hated was the status text seemed to tell me that the profile [all 
of it] was being transfered over.  I thought that part of your profile 
was the extensions you added.  I know if I delete the .libreoffice file 
in Ubuntu you loose the link to your added extensions.   DID 3.5.x 
replace the folder name or change where the information is stored?

On 06/03/2012 11:48 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Ouch!  I'm glad we have managed to avoid saying it sucks!  (oops)

 I was really hoping the sensible way would work.  Ideally i had imagined 
 copying the old user-profile all around the place and then installing the 
 newer LO so that 'a few' (hopefully not too many) settings might get changed 
 or added.  I'm sure it has worked for me but i haven't been taking much 
 notice tbh. 

 Mostly i just reconfigure whichever machine i happen to be hot-desking on 
 but not in a structured and planned way.  I've noticed users who complain 
 about a thing not being set a certain way tend to set it back after i take 
 the trouble to set it up the way they said they wanted.  So, i tend to set 
 things the way i prefer on my logins and leave them to it.  I need to be 
 more organised though.  The xcu thing looks interesting. 

 Regards from
 Tom :)



 --- On Sun, 3/6/12, Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de  wrote:

 From: Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my 
 extensions
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Sunday, 3 June, 2012, 16:26

 Am 03.06.2012 11:28, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
 Le 03/06/12 11:03, Tom Davies a écrit :

 Hi Tom,

 Hi :)
 I thought it was possible to copy user-profiles between different 
 machines?  Even between ones running different OSes?  Is it not possible 
 to copypaste the Extensions folder from the old folder position to the 
 new one?  Something like the equivalent of
 In theory, yes. In practice, YMMV. I always now systematically rename my
 LO user profile before installing a new version, then install the new
 version, start it once, and then replace the user profile created with
 my previously backed up one. It sucks that one should have to do this in
 order to preseve one's settings. I know of no other app where this is
 the case.

 IMHO, this is completely inacceptable because this program's productivity 
 depends very much on customization.
 You can zip your profile and send it to the developers with detailed info 
 about your system and which upgrade was spoiled by that particular profile.
 According to exprerience with parallel installations, extensions are the 
 main culprit. You may try to remove all your additional extensions before 
 installation and see if this helps somehow.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed all my extensions

2012-06-03 Thread Steve Edmonds

Not Business ready then?

On 2012-06-04 02:12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:


Tom
as the OP of this thread, my real issue was while it was upgrading 
the status text indicated to me that is was going to transfer my user 
profile info and such.  It did not do the proper job if it decided to 
transfer only the user name and other such data, and not all of the 
extensions he/she relies on.


I thin someone said that the 3.5.x like uses a different folder for 
the user data.  If so, maybe there is an error in the copying of that 
info to the new folder before that old folder was erased.


I have not tried this 3.4.6 to 3.5.4 on a Ubuntu system, only a WinXP 
laptop.  There must be a fix to this issue.


Can you imagine what a business type of user has to go through to move 
10, 50, 100 machines, using Windows, from 3.4.6 to a 3.5.x version if 
they have to reinstall ALL of their extensions, along with dealing 
with the custom install process to not have every single language 
dictionary possible during install automatically installed?



On 06/03/2012 05:04 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I thought it was possible to copy user-profiles between different 
machines?  Even between ones running different OSes?  Is it not 
possible to copypaste the Extensions folder from the old folder 
position to the new one?  Something like the equivalent of


cp
/Users/user name/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/3/user
/Users/user name/Library/Application Support/config/LibreOffice/3/user


Errr, i know you know cp = copy on a GnuLinux command-line but i 
don't know the equivalent in Mac.  I would probably do this the 
clickdrag gui way tbh.  Can you do soemthing like this on Macs?  Do 
you have old back-ups of your user profile at a point when it was 
working well? Regards from

Tom :)

--- On Sun, 3/6/12, Alexander Thurgoodalex.thurg...@gmail.com  wrote:

From: Alexander Thurgoodalex.thurg...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: install of 3.5.4 over 3.4.6 removed 
all my extensions

To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 3 June, 2012, 9:47

Le 02/06/12 16:52, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit :

Hi,


I just noticed that EVERY extension that I had installed were not
carried over to 3.5.4, even though during the install process the 
status

wording looked like it was going to.

So, it that an error for 3.4.6 to 3.5.4 or was that a part of the 3.3.x
to 3.4.x upgrading as well?


I have seen this in many of the upgrade installations on Mac - each
time I have to either delete my user profile or re-install the
extensions, and I'm getting fed up with it.


Alex







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