[us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
Hello All, am I blind, I am trying to install ColdFusion on Ubuntu 9.04 and it asks for where httpd is. I looked in /usr/sbinnothing I did a locate for httpd and I get /etc/apache2/httpd.conf stuff in /usr/lib/apache2 stuff in /usr/share/doc No httpd binary. Apache works though What stupid things am I doing..It must be something stupid... -Jason - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
find / -name httpd - Original Message - From: Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle [mailingli...@mailnewsrss.com] Sent: 05/21/2009 07:34 PM MST To: users@httpd.apache.org Subject: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04 Hello All, am I blind, I am trying to install ColdFusion on Ubuntu 9.04 and it asks for where httpd is. I looked in /usr/sbinnothing I did a locate for httpd and I get /etc/apache2/httpd.conf stuff in /usr/lib/apache2 stuff in /usr/share/doc No httpd binary. Apache works though What stupid things am I doing..It must be something stupid... -Jason - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
Hi Peter, sudo find / -name httpd returned nothing.. -Jason On May 21, 2009, at 7:36 PM, Peter J Milanese wrote: find / -name httpd - Original Message - From: Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle [mailingli...@mailnewsrss.com] Sent: 05/21/2009 07:34 PM MST To: users@httpd.apache.org Subject: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04 Hello All, am I blind, I am trying to install ColdFusion on Ubuntu 9.04 and it asks for where httpd is. I looked in /usr/sbinnothing I did a locate for httpd and I get /etc/apache2/httpd.conf stuff in /usr/lib/apache2 stuff in /usr/share/doc No httpd binary. Apache works though What stupid things am I doing..It must be something stupid... -Jason - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
Hi Jason, I think it should be find / -iname httpd. Rgds, Jim =-=-= On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle < mailingli...@mailnewsrss.com> wrote: > Hi Peter, > > sudo find / -name httpd > > returned nothing.. > > -Jason > > On May 21, 2009, at 7:36 PM, Peter J Milanese wrote: > > find / -name httpd >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle [mailingli...@mailnewsrss.com] >> Sent: 05/21/2009 07:34 PM MST >> To: users@httpd.apache.org >> Subject: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04 >> >> >> >> Hello All, >> >> am I blind, I am trying to install ColdFusion on Ubuntu 9.04 and it >> asks for where httpd is. >> >> I looked in /usr/sbinnothing >> >> I did a locate for httpd and I get /etc/apache2/httpd.conf >> stuff in /usr/lib/apache2 >> stuff in /usr/share/doc >> >> No httpd binary. >> >> Apache works though >> >> What stupid things am I doing..It must be something stupid... >> >> -Jason >> >> >> >> >> - >> The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. >> See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org >> " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org >> >> >> - >> The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. >> See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org >> " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org >> >> > > - > The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. > See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org > " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org > >
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
Hi Jim Still nothing -Jason On May 21, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Jimmyboy wrote: Hi Jason, I think it should be find / -iname httpd. Rgds, Jim =-=-= On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle > wrote: Hi Peter, sudo find / -name httpd returned nothing.. -Jason On May 21, 2009, at 7:36 PM, Peter J Milanese wrote: find / -name httpd - Original Message - From: Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle [mailingli...@mailnewsrss.com] Sent: 05/21/2009 07:34 PM MST To: users@httpd.apache.org Subject: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04 Hello All, am I blind, I am trying to install ColdFusion on Ubuntu 9.04 and it asks for where httpd is. I looked in /usr/sbinnothing I did a locate for httpd and I get /etc/apache2/httpd.conf stuff in /usr/lib/apache2 stuff in /usr/share/doc No httpd binary. Apache works though What stupid things am I doing..It must be something stupid... -Jason - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
The debian maintainers though it would be suitable to rename it to apache2 / apache2ctl. See: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout Frank Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote: Hi Jim Still nothing -Jason On May 21, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Jimmyboy wrote: Hi Jason, I think it should be find / -iname httpd. Rgds, Jim =-=-= On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote: Hi Peter, sudo find / -name httpd returned nothing.. -Jason On May 21, 2009, at 7:36 PM, Peter J Milanese wrote: find / -name httpd - Original Message - From: Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle [mailingli...@mailnewsrss.com] Sent: 05/21/2009 07:34 PM MST To: users@httpd.apache.org Subject: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04 Hello All, am I blind, I am trying to install ColdFusion on Ubuntu 9.04 and it asks for where httpd is. I looked in /usr/sbinnothing I did a locate for httpd and I get /etc/apache2/httpd.conf stuff in /usr/lib/apache2 stuff in /usr/share/doc No httpd binary. Apache works though What stupid things am I doing..It must be something stupid... -Jason - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Frank Gingras wrote: The debian maintainers though it would be suitable to rename it to apache2 / apache2ctl. See: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout I often wonder who is worse, Micro$oft or Debian, both want everything "their" way. My solution for the OP is apt-get remove apache2 (http2 or whatever they call it these days) and get the source (it will be a lot more current then ubuntu/debians version as well and wont be hacked or butchered) so will be cleaner and bug free'r. If you still have issues you'll far likely get better support here useing it since few people here would know what butchering Debian have done. -- Res -Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
Hi: I don't want to hijack this thread, but since the question has been answered, I have a related one...WHY does the Debian distro 'relocate' things such as apache? Since I've been getting into the guts of Debian and Ubuntu over the last 2-3 years, I am finding a lot of 'non standard' things that drive me nuts when trying to solve a problem. I consider myself a fairly knowledgable Unix user/developer (at least, back in the bad old days) and some of the changes I've seen in the Debian/Ubuntu distros make me scratch my head and say Why? For example, their use of bin, and sbin, and root being acquired by 'sudo'.. Just curious... On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Res wrote: > On Thu, 21 May 2009, Frank Gingras wrote: > >> The debian maintainers though it would be suitable to rename it to apache2 >> / apache2ctl. >> >> See: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout > > I often wonder who is worse, Micro$oft or Debian, both want everything > "their" way. > > My solution for the OP is apt-get remove apache2 (http2 or whatever they > call it these days) and get the source (it will be a lot more current then > ubuntu/debians version as well and wont be hacked or butchered) so will be > cleaner and bug free'r. > > If you still have issues you'll far likely get better support here useing it > since few people here would know what butchering Debian have done. > > > -- > Res > > -Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers > > - > The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. > See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org > " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org > > - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:39 AM, John Hudak wrote: > Forexample, their use of bin, and sbin, and root being acquired by > 'sudo'.. > Just curious... Aren't those all pretty conventional? -- Eric Covener cove...@gmail.com - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
I've seen apps installed in sbin, and /home/username when from my perspective, they should have been in bin. While I haven't used a lot of different distros (slackware, RH (prior to their business model change), and commercial Unix distros by att, sun, dec, HP), I've never run into 'sudo'...I can understand the security argument for this, but don't necessarily agree with the approach. Anyway. its more of a 'Why do they do this' as a general question as opposed to a specific configuration. Guess I should take this question to the Debian forum On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Eric Covener wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:39 AM, John Hudak wrote: >> Forexample, their use of bin, and sbin, and root being acquired by >> 'sudo'.. >> Just curious... > > Aren't those all pretty conventional? > > -- > Eric Covener > cove...@gmail.com > > - > The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. > See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org > " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org > > - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
John Hudak wrote: I've seen apps installed in sbin, and /home/username when from my perspective, they should have been in bin. While I haven't used a lot of different distros (slackware, RH (prior to their business model change), and commercial Unix distros by att, sun, dec, HP), I've never run into 'sudo'...I can understand the security argument for this, but don't necessarily agree with the approach. Anyway. its more of a 'Why do they do this' as a general question as opposed to a specific configuration. Guess I should take this question to the Debian forum I believe the argument for using sudo is that it becomes possible to run a system without a root account. This is the default for an Ubuntu install. No risk of a user running as root. Prompting the user for his password when he is doing "root things" makes it very clear that he is doing root things. Windows has adopted this idea. Ubuntu has a goal of being usable by less sophisticated users. Deviations from "Unix standards" (whichever one you prefer) should be evaluated against this goal. It seems reasonable to me to call the apache binary, "apache". But there is always pain in getting from here to there when computer standards are being changed. Stephen - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
There is not httpd on Debian/Ubuntu. It's called apache2 and /etc/apache2 is the config folder. To check if apache is installed and where you run the dpkg command, something like this: # sudo dpkg -s apache2 and # sudo dpkg -S apache2 Igor On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Stephen wrote: > John Hudak wrote: > >> I've seen apps installed in sbin, and /home/username when from my >> perspective, they should have been in bin. While I haven't used a lot >> of different distros (slackware, RH (prior to their business model >> change), and commercial Unix distros by att, sun, dec, HP), I've never >> run into 'sudo'...I can understand the security argument for this, but >> don't necessarily agree with the approach. Anyway. its more of a 'Why >> do they do this' as a general question as opposed to a specific >> configuration. >> Guess I should take this question to the Debian forum >> >> > I believe the argument for using sudo is that it becomes possible to run a > system without a root account. > This is the default for an Ubuntu install. No risk of a user running as > root. > > Prompting the user for his password when he is doing "root things" makes it > very clear that he is doing root > things. Windows has adopted this idea. > > Ubuntu has a goal of being usable by less sophisticated users. Deviations > from "Unix standards" (whichever > one you prefer) should be evaluated against this goal. > > It seems reasonable to me to call the apache binary, "apache". But there is > always pain in getting from here to > there when computer standards are being changed. > > Stephen > > > > - > The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. > See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org > " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org > >
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
Not to add to the hijack, but I hear ya brother. I've been trying to get a local HTTPd/bugzilla set up for the last two weeks. I tried using the Ubuntu/Debian packages and not only do they splay files (seemingly) wherever they feel like it, they change the names so that the online product doc is almost worthless. I love ubuntu and have great respect for the work the volunteers do, but I don't think this is their best effort. On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 08:39 -0400, John Hudak wrote: > Hi: > I don't want to hijack this thread, but since the question has been > answered, I have a related one...WHY does the Debian distro 'relocate' > things such as apache? Since I've been getting into the guts of > Debian and Ubuntu over the last 2-3 years, I am finding a lot of 'non > standard' things that drive me nuts when trying to solve a problem. I > consider myself a fairly knowledgable Unix user/developer (at least, > back in the bad old days) and some of the changes I've seen in the > Debian/Ubuntu distros make me scratch my head and say Why? For > example, their use of bin, and sbin, and root being acquired by > 'sudo'.. > Just curious... > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Res wrote: > > On Thu, 21 May 2009, Frank Gingras wrote: > > > >> The debian maintainers though it would be suitable to rename it to apache2 > >> / apache2ctl. > >> > >> See: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout > > > > I often wonder who is worse, Micro$oft or Debian, both want everything > > "their" way. > > > > My solution for the OP is apt-get remove apache2 (http2 or whatever they > > call it these days) and get the source (it will be a lot more current then > > ubuntu/debians version as well and wont be hacked or butchered) so will be > > cleaner and bug free'r. > > > > If you still have issues you'll far likely get better support here useing it > > since few people here would know what butchering Debian have done. > > > > > > -- > > Res > > > > -Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers > > > > - > > The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. > > See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org > > " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org > > > > > > - > The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. > See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org >" from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org > - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
On May 22, 2009, at 5:39 AM, John Hudak wrote: WHY does the Debian distro 'relocate' things such as apache? Don't ask us, ask them. S. -- Sander Temme scte...@apache.org PGP FP: 51B4 8727 466A 0BC3 69F4 B7B8 B2BE BC40 1529 24AF smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
One would assume the Apache Debian packager is on this list, perhaps they would like to comment as to why they do this, but I suspect they will not. Nothing beats the source install, if you screwup it takes seconds to revert to previous version and you know you are using just that version. I do think we are getting off topic now, but my question stands (not that I use Debian on servers, I always believe in using non-butchering OS's, like Slackware, on *all* servers, critical and non critical) On Sat, 23 May 2009, James Carroll wrote: Not to add to the hijack, but I hear ya brother. I've been trying to get a local HTTPd/bugzilla set up for the last two weeks. I tried using the Ubuntu/Debian packages and not only do they splay files (seemingly) wherever they feel like it, they change the names so that the online product doc is almost worthless. I love ubuntu and have great respect for the work the volunteers do, but I don't think this is their best effort. On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 08:39 -0400, John Hudak wrote: Hi: I don't want to hijack this thread, but since the question has been answered, I have a related one...WHY does the Debian distro 'relocate' things such as apache? Since I've been getting into the guts of Debian and Ubuntu over the last 2-3 years, I am finding a lot of 'non standard' things that drive me nuts when trying to solve a problem. I consider myself a fairly knowledgable Unix user/developer (at least, back in the bad old days) and some of the changes I've seen in the Debian/Ubuntu distros make me scratch my head and say Why? For example, their use of bin, and sbin, and root being acquired by 'sudo'.. Just curious... -- Res -Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
Sander, Maybe a vote should be taken to issue notice to them, to cease renaming key apache components, its bad enough the butchering they do, but renaming is crossing the line IMHO, as we've just seen why in this thread, for every one you hear, you know there's many thousands more you don't. On Sat, 23 May 2009, Sander Temme wrote: On May 22, 2009, at 5:39 AM, John Hudak wrote: WHY does the Debian distro 'relocate' things such as apache? Don't ask us, ask them. S. -- Sander Temme scte...@apache.org PGP FP: 51B4 8727 466A 0BC3 69F4 B7B8 B2BE BC40 1529 24AF -- Res -Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
Res wrote: Sander, Maybe a vote should be taken to issue notice to them, to cease renaming key apache components, its bad enough the butchering they do, but renaming is crossing the line IMHO, as we've just seen why in this thread, for every one you hear, you know there's many thousands more you don't. On Sat, 23 May 2009, Sander Temme wrote: On May 22, 2009, at 5:39 AM, John Hudak wrote: WHY does the Debian distro 'relocate' things such as apache? Don't ask us, ask them. This is a general anarchy problem with everybody reinterpreting the 'rules' for standardisation of the directory structure to their own ends. Since the FHS standard simply does not ACTUALLY define anything useful! Add PHP and a database to the mix and a dozen variations seem to become hundreds, so perhaps it IS time some of the base projects started nailing things down in conjunction with FHS and removes the totally useless current 'standard' where EVERY variation is claimed to be compliant and FHS is used as the justification for MAKING their personal changes :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
On Sun, 24 May 2009, Lester Caine wrote: This is a general anarchy problem with everybody reinterpreting the 'rules' for standardisation of the directory structure to their own ends. Since the Not just directory naming, they rename binaries as well *THAT* is my key objection :) -- Res -Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04
Res wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2009, Lester Caine wrote: This is a general anarchy problem with everybody reinterpreting the 'rules' for standardisation of the directory structure to their own ends. Since the Not just directory naming, they rename binaries as well *THAT* is my key objection :) And use 'standardisiation' as the reason for doing that! FHS and the other initiatives are just a joke, so apache SHOULD lay down some rules and insist that a single 'FHS approved standard' is followed by everybody! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php - The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscr...@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@httpd.apache.org
