Re: Browsing SMB network????

[Allann Jones]

The link was only to show in your mode, I use it too sometimes, and a  
quick explanation about about nmb... I give your ace of spades...
But I only expose what was needed for me to view the entire Windows  
network on Nautilus without sniffing for shares.

Regards.


Em 24/01/2010, às 03:40, Ed Greshko  escreveu:

> Allann Jones wrote:
>> This was the only solution that works for me to enter, to view and be
>> viewed and identified on one of the MS Windows networks. This depends
>> on the level that you want to enter in the Windows network, the share
>> type, you can activate a netbios name to identify yourself on the
>> network and configure the domain.
>>
>> A reference: http://www.nongnu.org/lpi-manuals/lpi-102/html/ch06s06.html
>>
>> Incorrect? For all situations?
>>
> Incorrect for the situation where you only wish to access shares that
> are served by another system.
>
> The link you point to references the smbclient and smbmount utilities.
> These are "client side" utilities and thus the smbd and nmbd services
> need not be running.  Those are server side daemons that only need be
> started if you wish to share directories on you system to other  
> systems.
>
> FYI
>
> [egres...@f12 ~]$ ps -eaf | grep smb
> egreshko 30543 28744  0 15:39 pts/100:00:00 grep smb
> [egres...@f12 ~]$ ps -eaf | grep nmb
> egreshko 30548 28744  0 15:39 pts/100:00:00 grep nmb
>
> [egres...@f12 ~]$ smbclient -L //192.168.0.55
> Enter egreshko's password:
> Domain=[ASIA] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.33-0.18.el4_8.1]
>
>Sharename   Type  Comment
>-     ---
>IPC$IPC   IPC Service (Samba Server)
>torrentsDisk
>psc_2500Printer
>egreshkoDisk  Home Directories
> Domain=[ASIA] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.33-0.18.el4_8.1]
>
>Server   Comment
>----
>MISTYSamba Server
>SILLY
>
>WorkgroupMaster
>----
>ASIA MISTY
>
>
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Re: Browsing SMB network????

[Chris Smart]

2010/1/24 fred smith :
> On my F12 system, on the PLACES menu, the NETWORK item, does not browse
> SMB shares on the network, at least not for me, using my eeepc with F12.
>

Firewall?

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Re: deltarpms and newer kernels

[Suvayu Ali]

On Saturday 23 January 2010 11:45 PM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 13:55 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> Dear fellow Fedora users,
>>
>> Deltarpms does help a little bit with many packages, but the kernel is
>> not one of them :(
>>
>> kernel-devel, kernel-headers, kernel-firmware, etc do work though, how
>> come kernel package is not the same?
>
> Basically, the kernel now has a 20MB initramfs included that is full of
> 0's.  When you install the kernel, it automatically generates an
> initramfs to replace this "dummy" one.  The reason the dummy one is in
> there is so that rpm can accurately calculate how much space it needs in
> boot.
>
> Deltarpm sees that the initramfs has changed and can't do a delta
> because it thinks the initramfs should be 0's.

Shouldn't that be classified as a bug with presto/deltarpm?

> Jonathan
>

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Re: Will Firefox 3.6 be pushed?

[Siddhesh Poyarekar]

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Scott Beamer
 wrote:
> If your not otherwise using sqlite you can grab Firefox 3.6 from Rawhide.
> I'm running it now.
>
>        yum --enablerepo=rawhide update firefox
>
> You'll get an update for firefox, xulrunner and sqlite.
>

Don't do it if you need to print web pages. There's an unfixed bug in
the rawhide which causes firefox to crash whenever you try to print a
web page.


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Re: xorg version?

[Doron Bar Zeev]

X -version doesn't help ?



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X - core dump after yesterday's update.

[Michal]

Hallo Group Members

after Yesterdays system update, I experience X restarts. After 
 login/password is put to KDM, logging process starts but finally does
 not log me in. Instead it reinits to KDM login streen. 

/var/log/messages shows that the problem is with /usr/bin/Xorg.


Jan 24 11:42:42 localhost kernel: [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
Jan 24 11:42:42 localhost kernel: pci :00:02.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, 
low) -> IRQ 16
Jan 24 11:42:42 localhost kernel: [drm] Initialized i810 1.4.0 20030605 for 
:00:02.0 on minor 0
Jan 24 11:42:42 localhost kernel: mtrr: base(0xf800) is not aligned on a 
size(0x18) boundary
Jan 24 11:42:43 localhost kernel: [drm] Using v1.4 init.
Jan 24 11:42:46 localhost kernel: [drm:drm_reclaim_locked_buffers] *ERROR* 
reclaim_buffers_locked() deadlock. Please rework this
Jan 24 11:42:46 localhost kernel:   driver to use 
reclaim_buffers_idlelocked() instead.
Jan 24 11:42:46 localhost kernel:   I will go on reclaiming the buffers 
anyway.
Jan 24 11:43:03 localhost abrtd: Directory 'ccpp-1264329783-1727' creation 
detected
Jan 24 11:43:03 localhost kdm[1724]: X server for display :0 terminated 
unexpectedly
Jan 24 11:43:03 localhost abrtd: Lock file 
'/var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1264329783-1727.lock' is locked by process 1938
Jan 24 11:43:03 localhost abrt: saved core dump of pid 1727 (/usr/bin/Xorg) to 
/var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1264329783-1727/coredump (61440 bytes)



xorg packages that changed are updated during yesterday's update are:
Jan 23 16:43:00 Updated: 
xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.13.0-0.20.20091221git4b05c47ac.fc12.i686
Jan 23 16:38:05 Updated: xorg-x11-proto-devel-7.4-35.fc12.noarch

Of course the problem may be in some other packages.

below are commands' results I think might be usefull. (command prompt is
"prompt$")

have You an idea what might be the reason?

best regards,
Michal

prompt$ rpm -qa | grep -i xorg
xorg-x11-server-utils-7.4-13.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-elographics-1.2.3-4.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-v4l-0.2.0-3.fc12.1.i686
xorg-x11-drv-aiptek-1.3.0-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.9.1-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-dummy-0.3.3-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-xkb-utils-7.4-6.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-mouse-1.5.0-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-mutouch-1.2.1-4.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-0.4.1-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-sis-0.10.2-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-fpit-1.3.0-4.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-acecad-1.4.0-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-rendition-4.2.2-4.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.15-19.20091105gite1c2efd.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi-7.2-9.fc12.noarch
xorg-x11-apps-7.4-8.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-resutils-7.1-9.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.13.0-0.20.20091221git4b05c47ac.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse-12.6.5-2.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-vmware-10.16.7-2.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-i128-1.3.3-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-ast-0.89.9-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-r128-6.8.1-2.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.15-2.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-cirrus-1.3.2-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-trident-1.3.3-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-font-utils-7.2-11.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.9-13.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-void-1.3.0-2.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-proto-devel-7.4-35.fc12.noarch
xorg-x11-drv-mach64-6.8.2-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-voodoo-1.2.3-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-penmount-1.4.0-4.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-sisusb-0.9.3-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.4.1-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-hyperpen-1.3.0-3.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-tdfx-1.4.3-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.7.4-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-keyboard-1.4.0-2.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-neomagic-1.2.4-2.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-apm-1.2.2-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-glint-1.2.4-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-savage-2.3.1-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-1.2.1-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-utils-7.4-7.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-vesa-2.2.1-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-siliconmotion-1.7.3-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-server-common-1.7.4-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-s3virge-1.10.4-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-mga-1.4.11-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-i740-1.3.2-1.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drivers-7.3-13.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.3.2-2.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-xauth-1.0.2-7.fc12.i686
xorg-x11-xdm-1.1.6-14.fc12.i686

prompt$ uname -a
Linux myPC 2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686 #1 SMP Mon Jan 18 20:22:46 UTC 2010 i686 
i686 i386 GNU/Linux

prompt$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory 
Controller Hub (rev 04)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics 
Controller (CGC) (rev 04)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 11)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 11)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller (rev 11)
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 11)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 11)
00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 11)
01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM/CA/CAM Ethernet 
Controller (rev 03)
01:09.0 Ethernet

Re: deltarpms and newer kernels

[Jonathan Dieter]

On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 03:11 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> On Saturday 23 January 2010 11:45 PM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> > Basically, the kernel now has a 20MB initramfs included that is full of
> > 0's.  When you install the kernel, it automatically generates an
> > initramfs to replace this "dummy" one.  The reason the dummy one is in
> > there is so that rpm can accurately calculate how much space it needs in
> > boot.
> >
> > Deltarpm sees that the initramfs has changed and can't do a delta
> > because it thinks the initramfs should be 0's.
> 
> Shouldn't that be classified as a bug with presto/deltarpm?

No.  It's a kernel packaging bug.  See
http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/12/10/annoying-kernel-packaging-bug
and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544901.

Jonathan


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Re: F12 - nm-applet - enhancement maybe ?

[Aaron Konstam]

On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 17:34 -0500, Mail Lists wrote: 
> On 01/23/2010 05:07 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> 
> > The mac address is the second line in the  the connection information
> > displayed for the active connection on my machine. 
> >>
> 
> 
>That is my MAC address - i know that one - i'd like to see the MAC
> address of the AP I am connected to - (and also the MAC's of all
> available APs esp when there are multiple AP's on same SSID.

That indeed is true. However, in the connection information is the ip
address of the AP your connected to.
Then : arp -a ip-address 
will give you its MAC address
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Critical temperature reached, shutting down

[Steve Malenfant]

I have an ECS board which triggers these Critical temperature alarm and them
my system shuts down. This happens only in "yum update" but doesn't on video
playback for hours.

Jan 14 14:06:19 localhost kernel: Critical temperature reached (127 C),
shutting down.
Jan 14 14:06:19 localhost kernel: Critical temperature reached (127 C),
shutting down.

The problem I have is that the CPU temp stays about 40C when this happens
(using sensors) and can't find any temperature that goes higher in the
sensors data.

Seems like a ACPI problem but the kernel log message has no details on which
sensors is at 127 C.

Is there a way to tell the kernel to be a bit more verbose on these?

Thanks.
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Re: F12 - nm-applet - enhancement maybe ?

[Sam Sharpe]

2010/1/24 Aaron Konstam :
> On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 17:34 -0500, Mail Lists wrote:
>> On 01/23/2010 05:07 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>>
>> > The mac address is the second line in the  the connection information
>> > displayed for the active connection on my machine.
>> >>
>>
>>
>>    That is my MAC address - i know that one - i'd like to see the MAC
>> address of the AP I am connected to - (and also the MAC's of all
>> available APs esp when there are multiple AP's on same SSID.
>
> That indeed is true. However, in the connection information is the ip
> address of the AP your connected to.
> Then : arp -a ip-address
> will give you its MAC address

You are of course correct, however that's not the point of the original post:

>  It can be very useful to see what MAC addess of the AP one is
> currently connected to - it can also be very usefule to see the strength
> and info on each AP/MAC for the same SSID.

> Is there a way to see this info in nm-applet or is this somehow
> available now and I cant see it ?

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Re: Help: Where is the subscriber's account manager?

[David]

2010/1/24 Todd Zullinger :
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>> IMHO, the page itself should be redesigned a bit.
>>
>> It is possible that when some people see areas divided by bold text with
>> contrasting background they feel "/The subscribers list is only
>> available to the list administrator" /applies to all within that block
>> and stop reading.
>>
>> I feel a separate "admin only" area would be better.
>>
>> Suppose that is a bugzilla for mailman
>
> I don't disagree that the listinfo page isn't the greatest layout ever
> (he says, hoping for a nomination in the "understatements of the year"
> category).  But I would say it's not even bugzilla material, as making
> such a large change to the mailman package defaults is beyond what
> should be expected of a Fedora packager.

Actually, mailman 2 makes it straightforward for any list
administrator to customise/improve the appearance of the info page of
their list if they choose to.

For example, see this page:
http://watch.id.au/mailman/listinfo/chat_watch.id.au
The *bottom half* of this page directly addresses the issue raised
earlier, namely it is cleaner and much less confusing (than the
default page) particularly for subscribers who want to access their
list config.

If it's useful to anyone, my html that mailman uses to generate the
lower part of that page can be downloaded from:
http://watch.id.au/share/30day/mailman-watch-chat-listinfo.html

It contains some text specific to the target audience of that
particular list, but that could easily be removed to produce a
template that could readily be adapted to any mailman 2 list.

This html block is simply pasted by the list admin in the mailman
admin menu under "edit public html pages" - "general list info page".
I found much of the default html there to be ugly and unnecessary, and
removed it. For example, the password prompts are unnecessary, because
a default password is auto generated and emailed. Also, the admins can
access the subscribers list via the admin page so there is no need to
clutter this page with it. The radio buttons are available on the
config page.

The above two URLs content difference is due to the "info" field which
must be specified as plaintext elsewhere by the list admin, and the
footer and other mailman macros.
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Re: X - core dump after yesterday's update.

[Michal]

Michal  writes:

> Hallo Group Members
>
> after Yesterdays system update, I experience X restarts. After 
>  login/password is put to KDM, logging process starts but finally does
>  not log me in. Instead it reinits to KDM login streen. 
>
> /var/log/messages shows that the problem is with /usr/bin/Xorg.
>
>
> Jan 24 11:42:42 localhost kernel: [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
> Jan 24 11:42:42 localhost kernel: pci :00:02.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 
> (level, low) -> IRQ 16
> Jan 24 11:42:42 localhost kernel: [drm] Initialized i810 1.4.0 20030605 for 
> :00:02.0 on minor 0
> Jan 24 11:42:42 localhost kernel: mtrr: base(0xf800) is not aligned on a 
> size(0x18) boundary
> Jan 24 11:42:43 localhost kernel: [drm] Using v1.4 init.
> Jan 24 11:42:46 localhost kernel: [drm:drm_reclaim_locked_buffers] *ERROR* 
> reclaim_buffers_locked() deadlock. Please rework this
> Jan 24 11:42:46 localhost kernel: driver to use 
> reclaim_buffers_idlelocked() instead.
> Jan 24 11:42:46 localhost kernel: I will go on reclaiming the buffers 
> anyway.
> Jan 24 11:43:03 localhost abrtd: Directory 'ccpp-1264329783-1727' creation 
> detected
> Jan 24 11:43:03 localhost kdm[1724]: X server for display :0 terminated 
> unexpectedly
> Jan 24 11:43:03 localhost abrtd: Lock file 
> '/var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1264329783-1727.lock' is locked by process 1938
> Jan 24 11:43:03 localhost abrt: saved core dump of pid 1727 (/usr/bin/Xorg) 
> to /var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1264329783-1727/coredump (61440 bytes)
>
>
>
> xorg packages that changed are updated during yesterday's update are:
> Jan 23 16:43:00 Updated: 
> xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.13.0-0.20.20091221git4b05c47ac.fc12.i686
> Jan 23 16:38:05 Updated: xorg-x11-proto-devel-7.4-35.fc12.noarch
>
> Of course the problem may be in some other packages.
>
> below are commands' results I think might be usefull. (command prompt is
> "prompt$")
>
> have You an idea what might be the reason?
>
> best regards,
> Michal
>
> prompt$ rpm -qa | grep -i xorg
> xorg-x11-server-utils-7.4-13.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-elographics-1.2.3-4.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-v4l-0.2.0-3.fc12.1.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-aiptek-1.3.0-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.9.1-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-dummy-0.3.3-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-xkb-utils-7.4-6.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-mouse-1.5.0-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-mutouch-1.2.1-4.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-0.4.1-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-sis-0.10.2-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-fpit-1.3.0-4.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-acecad-1.4.0-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-rendition-4.2.2-4.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.15-19.20091105gite1c2efd.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi-7.2-9.fc12.noarch
> xorg-x11-apps-7.4-8.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-resutils-7.1-9.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.13.0-0.20.20091221git4b05c47ac.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse-12.6.5-2.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-vmware-10.16.7-2.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-i128-1.3.3-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-ast-0.89.9-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-r128-6.8.1-2.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.15-2.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-cirrus-1.3.2-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-trident-1.3.3-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-font-utils-7.2-11.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.9-13.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-void-1.3.0-2.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-proto-devel-7.4-35.fc12.noarch
> xorg-x11-drv-mach64-6.8.2-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-voodoo-1.2.3-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-penmount-1.4.0-4.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-sisusb-0.9.3-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.4.1-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-hyperpen-1.3.0-3.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-tdfx-1.4.3-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.7.4-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-keyboard-1.4.0-2.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-neomagic-1.2.4-2.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-apm-1.2.2-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-glint-1.2.4-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-savage-2.3.1-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-1.2.1-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-utils-7.4-7.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-vesa-2.2.1-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-siliconmotion-1.7.3-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-server-common-1.7.4-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-s3virge-1.10.4-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-mga-1.4.11-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-i740-1.3.2-1.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drivers-7.3-13.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.3.2-2.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-xauth-1.0.2-7.fc12.i686
> xorg-x11-xdm-1.1.6-14.fc12.i686
>
> prompt$ uname -a
> Linux myPC 2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686 #1 SMP Mon Jan 18 20:22:46 UTC 2010 
> i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>
> prompt$ lspci
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and 
> Memory Controller Hub (rev 04)
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics 
> Controller (CGC) (rev 04)
> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 11)
> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 11)
> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller (rev 11)
> 00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 
> 11)
> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Inte

Re: Help: Where is the subscriber's account manager?

[Todd Zullinger]

David wrote:
> Actually, mailman 2 makes it straightforward for any list
> administrator to customise/improve the appearance of the info page
> of their list if they choose to.

Sure.  Though to be honest, I don't see it as a big problem.

(As far as packaging, I mostly meant that it's not something we should
be changing in our packages as it would be a decent deviation from
upstream, something user-visible too, unlike changes to the default
binary paths that are only visible to site-admins.)

Thanks for the templates though.  Removing the "visit subscriber list"
might help make the "To unsubscribe from users, get a password
reminder, or change your subscription options" text below it more
obvious.  I'm not sure if any of the other list admins use that or
not, but that view of the subscriber list isn't available via the main
admin pages.

In years past, I sent a patch¹ upstream to add such a link to the
default admin pages, but it wasn't picked up.  I know it's been
discussed on the mailman-users list a few times.

¹ http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-us...@python.org/msg24261.html

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Re: F12 - nm-applet - enhancement maybe ?

[Mail Lists]

On 01/24/2010 09:25 AM, Sam Sharpe wrote:

>>
>> That indeed is true. However, in the connection information is the ip
>> address of the AP your connected to.
>> Then : arp -a ip-address
>> will give you its MAC address
> 
> You are of course correct, however that's not the point of the original post:
> 

   Yes indeed - also its even easier to see it via iwconfig wlan0 .. but
as sam said thats not the point.

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Re: desktop differentiated icons

[Michael Hennebry]

On Sat, 23 Jan 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Rick Stevens wrote:
>>
 Under Gnome with multiple desktops, the taskbar icons for open terminals
 show up only when I select the desktop containing the terminals.
>>>
>>> Alas, KDE is not so discriminating.
>>> I get them all.
>>>
>>> Step forward KDE fans.
>>> Do I need to go to Gnome for this?
>>
>> I seem have hit on the right collection of keywords.
>
> I seem to have written too soon.
> The only things mentioned below that I
> can find are the taskbar and the cashew.
> Anyone else know how?
> I think I'm running KDE 4.something,
> but I don't know the something or how to find out.

At last, I managed to make it work.
Contrary to my previous belief,
I had not managed to right click on the task bar.
Apparently I'd always picked a spot covered by something else.
Somehow I produced a blank space on
the task bar and right clicked there.
>From there task manager settings.

>>> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=83220&start=0
>>
>>>  [solved] kde only show windows from current desktop in taskbar
>>
>>> Particularly for Mandriva 2007.1, I can't find a way in the GUI to
>>> disable
>>> showing all the windows in the taskbar. You can disable it using your
>>> text
>>> editor in the file ~/.kde/share/config/ktaskbarrc (change the value of
>>> ShowAllWindows to false).
>>>
>>> ShowAllWindows=false. under [General] If there is no [General] then
>>> simply
>>> make one line with that first.
>>>
>>> e.g.
>>> [General]
>>> ShowAllWindows=false
>>
>>> Or right click the task bar, select "Configure Panel", click "Taskbar"
>>> and
>>> unselect "Show windows from all desktops". One of the first things I do
>>> after an install.
>>
>> I wrote:
>>> Is there a way for an application to discover which desktop it's on?
>>
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Linux C++ compiler

[Matt Smith]

Can anyone recommend a good C++ compiler for Linux, I am very new to Linux
(very very new).  Does Fedora 12 come with one?  In Windows i used to write
programs using borlands dos console compiler and Dev-C++.  It would great to
get a recommendation for a good one in Linux and how to install it.

Thanks
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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[Helder]

g++

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Matt Smith  wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a good C++ compiler for Linux, I am very new to Linux
> (very very new).  Does Fedora 12 come with one?  In Windows i used to write
> programs using borlands dos console compiler and Dev-C++.  It would great to
> get a recommendation for a good one in Linux and how to install it.
>
> Thanks
> Matt
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Re: xorg version?

[Patrick Bartek]

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Tom Horsley  wrote:

> OK, I give up :-).
> 
> How the devil do I ask the question "What xorg release
> am I running"?
> 
> Every xorg rpm has completely different version numbers,
> and none of them look much like the xorg release numbers
> like 6.8 or 7.4 (or whatever they are up to these days).

I use yum to get version info when I can't get it otherwise.

yum info xorg*

will print out all xorg modules and their versions.  I think you probably are 
looking for the xorg-x11-server-common version.

B
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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[Andras Simon]

On 1/24/10, Matt Smith  wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a good C++ compiler for Linux, I am very new to Linux
> (very very new).  Does Fedora 12 come with one?  In Windows i used to write
> programs using borlands dos console compiler and Dev-C++.  It would great to
> get a recommendation for a good one in Linux and how to install it.

You need the gcc package:

[r...@pici ~]# yum info gcc
Available Packages
Name   : gcc
Arch   : i686
Version: 4.4.2
Release: 20.fc12
Size   : 8.1 M
Repo   : updates
Summary: Various compilers (C, C++, Objective-C, Java, ...)
URL: http://gcc.gnu.org
License: GPLv3+ and GPLv3+ with exceptions and GPLv2+ with exceptions
Description: The gcc package contains the GNU Compiler Collection version 4.4.
   : You'll need this package in order to compile C code.


To install it, say
yum install gcc
as root.

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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 12:58 -0500, Matt Smith wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a good C++ compiler for Linux, I am very new to
> Linux (very very new).  Does Fedora 12 come with one?  In Windows i
> used to write programs using borlands dos console compiler and Dev-C
> ++.  It would great to get a recommendation for a good one in Linux
> and how to install it.

yum install gcc-c++

Note that this is exactly what you asked for, a C++ compiler. If
actually want a development environment there are several, e.g. Kdevelop
under KDE.

poc

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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[Athmane Madjoudj]

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Matt Smith  wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a good C++ compiler for Linux, I am very new to Linux
> (very very new).  Does Fedora 12 come with one?  In Windows i used to write
> programs using borlands dos console compiler and Dev-C++.  It would great to
> get a recommendation for a good one in Linux and how to install it.
>
> Thanks
> Matt
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Yes, it's named GNU GCC

for c:

yum install gcc

for c++:

yum install gcc-c++

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Re: xorg version?

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:06:58 -0500
Tom Horsley  wrote:

> Nope :-).
> 
> Lots of 3rd party software has release notes that say things
> like "you have to be running xorg 7.1 or greater", but that
> article provides zero clues how to ask if I'm doing that.

Ask the 3rd party to clarify what they mean?

> It implies that maybe I could check the versions of all the
> individual modules to see if they are all >= the collection
> released with xorg 7.whatever, but the release notes for
> the most recent 7.5 for example don't seem to document
> the individual module versions anywhere, so I still have no
> idea how to tell :-(.

Yeah, thats why any 3rd party that says that is unclear... 
ask them what the real requirement is? Is it a x server version?
Development packages? what?

kevin


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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[Frank Cox]

On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 13:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Note that this is exactly what you asked for, a C++ compiler. If
> actually want a development environment there are several, e.g.
> Kdevelop under KDE.

I use and highly recommend geany; it's a really nice programmer's
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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[Athmane Madjoudj]

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Athmane Madjoudj  wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Matt Smith  wrote:
>> Can anyone recommend a good C++ compiler for Linux, I am very new to Linux
>> (very very new).  Does Fedora 12 come with one?  In Windows i used to write
>> programs using borlands dos console compiler and Dev-C++.  It would great to
>> get a recommendation for a good one in Linux and how to install it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Matt
>>
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>
> Yes, it's named GNU GCC
>
> for c:
>
> yum install gcc
>
> for c++:
>
> yum install gcc-c++
>
> HTH
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>

Those tools a CLI-based, if you need an IDE, Fedora already include:

- Eclipse w/ CDT: yum install eclipse-cdt
- Anjuta: yum install anjuta (if you use GNOME)
- KDevelop: yum install kdevelop  (if you use KDE)
- QTCreator: yum install qt-creator
- Code::Block:  yum install codeblocks
- Netbeans w/ C/C++ plugin: yum install netbeans


For other browse the group "Programming" in Package Manager:
System > Administration > Add/Remove Software




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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[Matt Smith]

thanks, i will need a development environment as well, but anyway my system
says that it is already installed.  would you be able to direct me to where
it might be located and how i can access it, thanks again

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 12:58 -0500, Matt Smith wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend a good C++ compiler for Linux, I am very new to
> > Linux (very very new).  Does Fedora 12 come with one?  In Windows i
> > used to write programs using borlands dos console compiler and Dev-C
> > ++.  It would great to get a recommendation for a good one in Linux
> > and how to install it.
>
> yum install gcc-c++
>
> Note that this is exactly what you asked for, a C++ compiler. If
> actually want a development environment there are several, e.g. Kdevelop
> under KDE.
>
> poc
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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[Matt Smith]

using the gcc-c++ compiler can someone provide a simple 3 or 4 step example
as to how i use the compiler (in the terminal) to compile a program i wrote
and saved in a gedit file?  thanks.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Matt Smith  wrote:

> thanks, i will need a development environment as well, but anyway my system
> says that it is already installed.  would you be able to direct me to where
> it might be located and how i can access it, thanks again
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan <
> pocallag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 12:58 -0500, Matt Smith wrote:
>> > Can anyone recommend a good C++ compiler for Linux, I am very new to
>> > Linux (very very new).  Does Fedora 12 come with one?  In Windows i
>> > used to write programs using borlands dos console compiler and Dev-C
>> > ++.  It would great to get a recommendation for a good one in Linux
>> > and how to install it.
>>
>> yum install gcc-c++
>>
>> Note that this is exactly what you asked for, a C++ compiler. If
>> actually want a development environment there are several, e.g. Kdevelop
>> under KDE.
>>
>> poc
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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[Peter Langfelder]

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Matt Smith  wrote:
> using the gcc-c++ compiler can someone provide a simple 3 or 4 step example
> as to how i use the compiler (in the terminal) to compile a program i wrote
> and saved in a gedit file?  thanks.
>


g++ -o executable program.cc

to execute:

./executable


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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 13:27 -0500, Matt Smith wrote:
> thanks, i will need a development environment as well, but anyway my
> system says that it is already installed.  would you be able to direct
> me to where it might be located and how i can access it, thanks again

Type "info g++" at a console window. Take the time to learn how to use
"info" as you'll find it useful, especially for Gnu software.

poc

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how to setup repro to load 32 bit version of firefox

[Ralph Blach]

I need to load the 32 bit version on firefox on my x86_64 machine.

This is because I need to use the cisco tool webex and it downloads a 32 bit 
linux dll, and this will not run on a
x86_64 bit machine.

How would the run repro be setup.

Any assistance would be appreciatedl

Thanks

chip
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Re: Browsing SMB network????

[fred smith]

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:54:07AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> fred smith wrote:
> > On my F12 system, on the PLACES menu, the NETWORK item, does not browse
> > SMB shares on the network, at least not for me, using my eeepc with F12.
> >   
> Are you saying that the NETWORK item does not have a "Windows Network" icon?

Right.

> 
> Do you have the gvfs-smb package installed?

No, but I do now. Thanks, Ed!

I further notice that the behavior is somewhat different depending on
whether I"m using wireless or wired network. via wired, i have no trouble
connecting to windows shares, but wireless it's a bit more stubborn. I
think I need to go review wireless router settings, perhaps it has applied
someo restrictions on wirless access to network shares.

Thanks again, Ed!

Fred

> > further, the "connect to server" item explicitly does not list "windows 
> > share"
> > as one of the options.
> >
> >
> > however on several Centos or RHEL systems I use, both at home and at
> > work, both of those choices include SMB/windows shares.
> >
> > have I got a configuration issue on my fedora system, or have those
> > options been removed, for some reason?
> >
> > Clues appreciated.
> >
> > Thanx!
> >
> >   
> 
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Input/Output error

[Faust Nijhuis]

Hello,


During playing urbanterror my fedora 12 system locks up.

Nvidia graphics card: Geforce GT 220.
Kernel:2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.x86_64 (It also crashes with other kernels)

When i execute a command, like top, i get an read/write error.

How can i detect what is causing this problem.

Faust


Part of the messages file:


kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
kernel: Info fld=0x287c1
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track
kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 663296
kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 82912
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
kernel: Info fld=0x287c1
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track
kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 663296
kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 82912
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
kernel: Info fld=0x287c1
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track
kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 663296
kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 82912
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
kernel: Info fld=0x287c1
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track
kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 663296
kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 82912
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
kernel: Info fld=0x287c1
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track
kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 663296
kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 82912
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
kernel: Info fld=0x287c1
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track
kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 663296
kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 82912
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
kernel: Info fld=0x287c1
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track
kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 663296
kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 82912
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
kernel: Info fld=0x287c1
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track
kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 663296
kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 82912
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
kernel: Info fld=0x287c1
kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track
kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 663296
kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 82912
hald: mounted /dev/sr0 on behalf of uid 500
kernel: exe[4371]: segfault at 18 ip 7f767791eb69 sp
797c2a70 error 4 in libflashplayer.so[7f76773f9000+8d2000]
abrtd: Directory 'ccpp-1263852062-4371' creation detected
abrtd: Size of '/var/cache/abrt' >= 1000 MB, deleting 'ccpp-1262089801-13999'
abrtd: Lock file '/var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1263852062-4371.lock' is locked
by process 7450
abrtd: Lock file '/var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1263852062-4371.lock' is locked
by process 7450
abrtd: Lock file '/var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1263852062-4371.lock' is locked
by process 7450
abrtd: Lock file '/var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1263852062-4371.lock' is locked
by process 7450
abrt: saved core dump of pid 4371 (/opt/google/chrome/chrome) to
/var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1263852062-4371/coredump (252002304 bytes)
abrtd: Getting local universal unique identification...
abrtd: New crash, saving
abrtd: RunApp('/var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1263852062-4371','"test x\"`cat
component`\" = x\"xorg-x11-server-Xorg\" && cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log
."')
abrtd: Directory 'ccpp-1263858124-2152' creation detected
abrtd: Size of '/var/cache/abrt' >= 1000 MB, deleting 'ccpp-1262077045-1735'
abrtd: Size of '/var/cache/abrt' >= 1000 MB, deleting 'ccpp-1263649959-5193'
abrt: saved core dump of pid 2152 (/usr/bin/ggl-qt) to
/var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1263858124-2152/coredump (41414656 bytes)
abrtd: Getting local universal unique identification...
abrtd: Crash is in database already
abrtd: Already saved crash, just sending dbus signal
init: tty4 main process (1772) ki

Re: F12 - nm-applet - enhancement maybe ?

[Aaron Konstam]

On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 10:44 -0500, Mail Lists wrote: 
> On 01/24/2010 09:25 AM, Sam Sharpe wrote:
> 
> >>
> >> That indeed is true. However, in the connection information is the ip
> >> address of the AP your connected to.
> >> Then : arp -a ip-address
> >> will give you its MAC address
> > 
> > You are of course correct, however that's not the point of the original 
> > post:
> > 
> 
>Yes indeed - also its even easier to see it via iwconfig wlan0 .. but
> as sam said thats not the point.
> 
>  gene/
Ok, I admit it . I am missing the point. My bad.

First of all I have no wlan0 on my machine. The OP wanted the MAC for
the AP. This gives him that. He also wanted the MAC address for other
APs with the same SSID. That he does not get using my approach. 

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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[Matt Smith]

after typing g++ gedit_file.cc i get a filed name a.out in the same folder
that is locked.  where do i go from here?  thanks

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Peter Langfelder <
peter.langfel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Matt Smith  wrote:
> > using the gcc-c++ compiler can someone provide a simple 3 or 4 step
> example
> > as to how i use the compiler (in the terminal) to compile a program i
> wrote
> > and saved in a gedit file?  thanks.
> >
>
>
> g++ -o executable program.cc
>
> to execute:
>
> ./executable
>
>
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Re: F12 - nm-applet - enhancement maybe ?

[James Matthews]

The intel compiler is the best one for the x86 chipset.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 10:44 -0500, Mail Lists wrote:
> > On 01/24/2010 09:25 AM, Sam Sharpe wrote:
> >
> > >>
> > >> That indeed is true. However, in the connection information is the ip
> > >> address of the AP your connected to.
> > >> Then : arp -a ip-address
> > >> will give you its MAC address
> > >
> > > You are of course correct, however that's not the point of the original
> post:
> > >
> >
> >Yes indeed - also its even easier to see it via iwconfig wlan0 .. but
> > as sam said thats not the point.
> >
> >  gene/
> Ok, I admit it . I am missing the point. My bad.
>
> First of all I have no wlan0 on my machine. The OP wanted the MAC for
> the AP. This gives him that. He also wanted the MAC address for other
> APs with the same SSID. That he does not get using my approach.
>
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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Sunday 24 January 2010 18:04:28 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 12:58 -0500, Matt Smith wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend a good C++ compiler for Linux, I am very new to
> > Linux (very very new).  Does Fedora 12 come with one?  In Windows i
> > used to write programs using borlands dos console compiler and Dev-C
> > ++.  It would great to get a recommendation for a good one in Linux
> > and how to install it.
> 
> yum install gcc-c++
> 
> Note that this is exactly what you asked for, a C++ compiler. If
> actually want a development environment there are several, e.g. Kdevelop
> under KDE.

And in future you might wish for more than just a c++ compiler. The easiest 
way to install all the "stuff" related to software development is to do a

yum groupinstall "Development Tools"

Best, :-)
Marko

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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[David Christopher Chipman]

Matt Smith wrote:
> after typing g++ gedit_file.cc i get a filed name a.out in the same folder
> that is locked.  where do i go from here?  thanks
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Peter Langfelder <
> peter.langfel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Matt Smith  wrote:
>> 
>>> using the gcc-c++ compiler can someone provide a simple 3 or 4 step
>>>   
>> example
>> 
>>> as to how i use the compiler (in the terminal) to compile a program i
>>>   
>> wrote
>> 
>>> and saved in a gedit file?  thanks.
>>>
>>>   
>> g++ -o executable program.cc
>>
>> to execute:
>>
>> ./executable
>>
>>
>> Peter
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Hi Matt,

You missed(/ignored?) part of the command that Peter gave you. The 
complete command is:

g++ -o executable program.cc

You use the -o option to tell it what to call the program file. 
Otherwise, you get a file "a.out", as you discovered. You could of 
course always rename the a.out file to  what ever you like.  Best of luck!

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Latest Sunbird is Broken -- Patch Available

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

The latest version of the sunbird calendar fails to start giving the
message:
$ Sunbird
Cannot find Calendar runtime directory. Exiting.
This is reported in bug report
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=558307
with a very simple patch.

jon

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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[Frank Cox]

On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 15:48 -0500, Matt Smith wrote:
> after typing g++ gedit_file.cc i get a filed name a.out in the same
> folder that is locked.

What do you mean by "locked"?  It should be an executable file.

Type this to run it:

./a.out

If you want an executable file named something other than a.out, either
rename it after the compiler creates it, or use the -o option that Peter
Langfelder pointed out to you (and that you quoted back in your reply).

>   where do i go from here? 

Anywhere you wish to.  Your compiler is apparently working and creating
an executable file.  What do you want to do next?

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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Sunday 24 January 2010 20:48:40 Matt Smith wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Peter Langfelder <
> peter.langfel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Matt Smith  wrote:
> > > using the gcc-c++ compiler can someone provide a simple 3 or 4 step
> >
> > example
> >
> > > as to how i use the compiler (in the terminal) to compile a program i
> >
> > wrote
> >
> > > and saved in a gedit file?  thanks.
> >
> > g++ -o executable program.cc
> >
> > to execute:
> >
> > ./executable
> >
> after typing g++ gedit_file.cc i get a filed name a.out in the same folder
> that is locked.  where do i go from here?  thanks

The "-o" option gives the name to the executable that is generated. If you 
omit it, the executable will get the default name, "a.out". To execute it, 
type

./a.out

Note the dot-slash notation before the filename --- it forces bash to execute 
the a.out command residing in the current directory. Otherwise bash will look 
for a.out in your default $PATH and typically won't be able to find any a.out 
executable.

HTH, :-)
Marko

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Re: [Solved] Nividia Twinview Problem?

[Marcel Rieux]

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Gilboa Davara  wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 19:19 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote:
>> The cost of an Nvidia card is not the price you pay, but the time an
>> "I don't care company" will make you lose. At minimum wage, it's at
>> least ten times the price of the card.
>
> I'm using two screens with different aspect ration in TwinView mode on
> two machines.
> If you want to solve your problem (as opposed to useless rants), I'd
> suggest you start by posting information about your setup, org.conf,
> etc.
>
> P.S. This is -not- a Fedora issue.

It might not be. Do you mean by this that Windows users experience the
same problem?

I first asked here and only Ed Greshko answered but he had no
solution. I didn't have a single answer on the NVIDIA forums. So, yes,
it's a rant.

I sent the NVIDIA bug report, but the Fedora list system doesn't
accept it because it's too long, I suppose. It doesn't appear here:

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-January/thread.html#start

So, here are error messages when I start nvidia-settings:

nvidia-settings

ERROR: Cannot open display 'localhost.localdomain:0.0'.


ERROR: Unable to assign attribute CursorShadow specified on line 21 of
configuration file '/root/.nvidia-settings-rc' (no Display connection).


ERROR: Unable to assign attribute CursorShadowAlpha specified on line 22 of
configuration file '/root/.nvidia-settings-rc' (no Display connection).


Etc. (no Display connection) until line 57

=

Here are some parts of the bug report that could be of interest
(honestly, I do my best but have no idea):

(WW) Jan 16 14:31:36 NVIDIA(0): The EDID for SONY TV (DFP-1)
contradicts itself: mode
(WW) Jan 16 14:31:36 NVIDIA(0): "1920x1080" is specified in the EDID;
however, the EDID's
(WW) Jan 16 14:31:36 NVIDIA(0): valid VertRefresh range (58.000-62.000
Hz) would exclude
(WW) Jan 16 14:31:36 NVIDIA(0): this mode's VertRefresh (24.0 Hz);
ignoring VertRefresh
(WW) Jan 16 14:31:36 NVIDIA(0): check for mode "1920x1080".


(II) Jan 16 14:31:36 NVIDIA(0): ACPI: failed to connect to the ACPI
event daemon; the daemon
(II) Jan 16 14:31:36 NVIDIA(0): may not be running or the "AcpidSocketPath" X
(II) Jan 16 14:31:36 NVIDIA(0): configuration option may not be set
correctly. When the
(II) Jan 16 14:31:36 NVIDIA(0): ACPI event daemon is available, the
NVIDIA X driver
will
(II) Jan 16 14:31:36 NVIDIA(0): try to use it to receive ACPI event
notifications. For
(II) Jan 16 14:31:36 NVIDIA(0): details, please see the "ConnectToAcpid" and
(II) Jan 16 14:31:36 NVIDIA(0): "AcpidSocketPath" X configuration
options in Appendix B: X
(II) Jan 16 14:31:36 NVIDIA(0): Config Options in the README.
(II) Jan 16 14:31:36 NVIDIA(0): Setting mode
(II) Jan 16 14:31:36 NVIDIA(0):
"DFP-0:1280x1024+0+0,DFP-1:nvidia-auto-select+0+0"


Here's xorg:

/etc/X11/xorg.conf
# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings:  version 1.0  (mockbu...@builder.wilsonet.com)  Sun
Nov 22 21:42:15 EST 2009

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (mockbuild@)  Sun Nov 22 21:04:19 EST 2009
# Xorg configuration created by livna-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier "Default Layout"
   Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
   Screen  1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
   InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
   InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
   Option "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection

Section "Files"
   ModulePath  "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia"
   ModulePath  "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
   Option "AIGLX" "on"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

   # generated from data in "/etc/sysconfig/keyboard"
   Identifier "Keyboard0"
   Driver "keyboard"
   Option "XkbLayout" "us"
   Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

   # generated from default
   Identifier "Mouse0"
   Driver "mouse"
   Option "Protocol" "auto"
   Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
   Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
   Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier "Monitor0"
   VendorName "Unknown"
   ModelName  "ViewSonic VX922"
   HorizSync   30.0 - 82.0
   VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0
   Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier "Monitor1"
   VendorName "Unknown"
   ModelName  "SONY TV"
   HorizSync   15.0 - 68.0
   VertRefresh 58.0 - 62.0
EndSection

Section "Device"
   Identifier "Videocard0"
   Driver "nvidia"
EndSection

Section "Device"
   Identifier "Device0"
   Driver "nvidia"
   VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
   BoardName  "GeForce 9400 GT"
   BusID  "PCI:1:0:0"
   Screen  0
EndSection

Section "Device"
   Identifier "Device1"
   Driver "nvidia"
   VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
   BoardNa

Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

[Marcel Rieux]

On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> Marcel Rieux wrote:
>> Since the NVIDIA forums are just a lost of time, I'll first ask the
>> question here.
>>
>> I have an NVIDIA 9400GT card and a Sony LCD TV linked with an HDMI cable.
>>
>> First problem I found: the S/PDIF cable -- which is needed only with
>> NVIDIA cards -- wasn't installed. The plug had a molding problem and
>> one of the 4 holes was blocked. (The hole was just empty: no wire
>> going to it.) I opened it with a pin, installed it with the arrow
>> facing the closest part of the motherboard, reversed it, and, of
>> course, sound doesn't come out of the TV. It's an Nvidia product!
>>
>> Anybody got this working?
>>
> You have a Nvidia 9400GT "based" card.  Who is the card manufacture?
> Gigabyte, MSI, ASUS, ZOTAC, ... ?

Asus.

> What is the actual model number?

No idea. OEM package.

> FWIW, not all vendor/configurations are equal and features may, and do,
> vary by product.

I checked Asus for my Twinview problem and there was only one message
relating to Twinview and it had to do with DVI-D:

ASUSTeK Computer Inc.-Forum- DVI-D doesn't work
DVI-D works for me on my Sony Wega HDTV, with and without TwinView.
Windows XP with VGA as primary CRT, DVI as secondary DFP. ...
vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLanguage=en-us... - Cached

I don't believe I'll fidn much on Asus' site. It's apparently not the
forum where people go when they have problems.

I wonder how much Asus modifies the card and if it's not only
relabeling for tax purposes.
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Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

[Marcel Rieux]

On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Bill Davidsen  wrote:
> Marcel Rieux wrote:
>> Since the NVIDIA forums are just a lost of time, I'll first ask the
>> question here.
>>
>> I have an NVIDIA 9400GT card and a Sony LCD TV linked with an HDMI cable.
>>
>> First problem I found: the S/PDIF cable -- which is needed only with
>> NVIDIA cards -- wasn't installed. The plug had a molding problem and
>> one of the 4 holes was blocked. (The hole was just empty: no wire
>> going to it.) I opened it with a pin, installed it with the arrow
>> facing the closest part of the motherboard, reversed it, and, of
>> course, sound doesn't come out of the TV. It's an Nvidia product!
>>
>> Anybody got this working?
>
> Did you get PulseAudio to send output to the connector?

What do you have to do to achieve this? Pulseaudio seems enabled.

Here's what I can find:

ps ax | grep pulseaudio
 1551 ?SFrom nvidia-bug-report

NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  190.53  Wed Dec  9
15:29:46 PST 2009
vgaarb: device changed decodes:
PCI::01:00.0,olddecodes=io+mem,decodes=none:owns=io+mem
hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC888, trying auto-probe from BIOS...
ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3862: autoconfig: line_outs=4
(0x14/0x15/0x16/0x17/0x0)
ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3866:speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3870:hp_outs=1 (0x1b/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3871:mono: mono_out=0x0
ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3874:dig-out=0x1e/0x0
ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3882:inputs: mic=0x18, fmic=0x19,
line=0x1a, fline=0x0, cd=0x1c, aux=0x0
ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3884:dig-in=0x1f
ALSA sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c:1197: realtek: Enabling init
ASM_ID=0xe601 CODEC_ID=10ec0888
input: HDA Digital PCBeep as /devices/pci:00/:00:14.2/input/input5
type=1400 audit(1264361533.267:4): avc:  denied  { mmap_zero } for
pid=599 comm="vbetool"

===

pulseaudio --dump-conf
### Read from configuration file: /etc/pulse/daemon.conf ###
daemonize = no
fail = yes
high-priority = yes
nice-level = -11
realtime-scheduling = yes
realtime-priority = 5
allow-module-loading = yes
allow-exit = yes
use-pid-file = yes
system-instance = no
cpu-limit = no
enable-shm = yes
flat-volumes = yes
lock-memory = no
exit-idle-time = 20
scache-idle-time = 20
dl-search-path = /usr/lib64/pulse-0.9.21/modules
default-script-file = /etc/pulse/default.pa
load-default-script-file = yes
log-target = auto
log-level = notice
resample-method = auto
enable-remixing = yes
enable-lfe-remixing = no
default-sample-format = s16le
default-sample-rate = 44100
default-sample-channels = 2
default-channel-map = front-left,front-right
default-fragments = 4
default-fragment-size-msec = 25
shm-size-bytes = 0
log-meta = no
log-time = no
log-backtrace = 0
rlimit-fsize = -1
rlimit-data = -1
rlimit-stack = -1
rlimit-core = -1
rlimit-rss = -1
rlimit-as = -1
rlimit-nproc = -1
rlimit-nofile = 256
rlimit-memlock = -1
rlimit-locks = -1
rlimit-sigpending = -1
rlimit-msgqueue = -1
rlimit-nice = 31
rlimit-rtprio = 9
rlimit-rttime = 100


pulseaudio --dump-modules
module-alsa-cardALSA Card
module-alsa-sinkALSA Sink
module-alsa-source  ALSA Source
module-always-sink  Always keeps at least one sink
loaded even if it's a null one
module-augment-properties   Augment the property sets of
streams with additional static information
module-card-restore Automatically restore profile of cards
module-cli  Command line interface
module-cli-protocol-tcp Command line interface
protocol (TCP sockets)
module-cli-protocol-unixCommand line interface
protocol (UNIX sockets)
module-combine  Combine multiple sinks to one
module-console-kit  Create a client for each
ConsoleKit session of this user
module-cork-music-on-phone  Mute or cork music while a
phone stream exists
module-default-device-restore   Automatically restore the
default sink and source
module-device-manager   Keep track of devices (and
their descriptions) both past and present and prioritise by role
module-device-restore   Automatically restore the
volume/mute state of devices
module-esound-compat-spawnfdESOUND compatibility module:
-spawnfd emulation
module-esound-compat-spawnpid   ESOUND compatibility module:
-spawnpid emulation
module-esound-protocol-tcp  ESOUND protocol (TCP sockets)
module-esound-protocol-unix ESOUND protocol (UNIX sockets)
module-esound-sink  ESOUND Sink
module-gconfGConf Adapter
module-hal-detect   Compatibility module
module-http-protocol-tcpHTTP (TCP sockets)
module-http-protocol-unix   HTTP (UNIX sockets

Package Hunt

[Mike Dwiggins]

Anyone heard of libcrypto.so.8 and/or where I can find it?

Mike

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Re: [Solved] Nividia Twinview Problem?

[Gilboa Davara]

On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 16:14 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Gilboa Davara  wrote:
> > On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 19:19 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> >> The cost of an Nvidia card is not the price you pay, but the time an
> >> "I don't care company" will make you lose. At minimum wage, it's at
> >> least ten times the price of the card.
> >
> > I'm using two screens with different aspect ration in TwinView mode on
> > two machines.
> > If you want to solve your problem (as opposed to useless rants), I'd
> > suggest you start by posting information about your setup, org.conf,
> > etc.
> >
> > P.S. This is -not- a Fedora issue.
> 
> It might not be. Do you mean by this that Windows users experience the
> same problem?

Nope.
I'd imagine that it's a broken xorg.conf configuration.

> I first asked here and only Ed Greshko answered but he had no
> solution. I didn't have a single answer on the NVIDIA forums. So, yes,
> it's a rant.

You do understand that ranting won't get you anywhere - instead it'll
simply annoy the people that might actually help you, right?

[snip]

> Section "Monitor"
>Identifier "Monitor0"
>VendorName "Unknown"
>ModelName  "ViewSonic VX922"
>HorizSync   30.0 - 82.0
>VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0
>Option "DPMS"
> EndSection
...

Your xorg.conf looks far too complex in my view. (You didn't post which
nVidia binary driver version are you using?)
It seems to be mixing xinerama and TwinView.
Plus, you have multiple concurrent configurations in the device and
monitor sections that more-or-less contradict each other...

Here's a copy of a work TwinView configuration from one of my
workstations. (22" LCD on DVI, 17" LCD on VGA)
Try using it as a reference (Its most likely full of garbage... I've
been dragging this xorg.conf since ~F5 [with minor modifications]...) 
Notice that the MetaModes are disabled - as at least in my case,
TwinView seems to be configuring the displays more-or-less out of the
box.

xorg.conf
=

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "Layout0"
Screen  0   "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0""CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "AutoAddDevices""off"
EndSection

Section "Files"
ModulePath  "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia/"
ModulePath  "/usr/lib64/xorg/drivers"
ModulePath  "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"fbdevhw"
Load"record"
Load"freetype"
Load"type1"
#Load   "dri"
Load"glx"
Load"dbe"
Load"extmod"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option  "AIGLX" "on"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
Option  "AutoAddDevices""false"
Option  "AutoEnableDevices" "false"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc105"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us,il"
Option  "XkbOptions"
"grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol"  "auto"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "no"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "CRT-1"
VendorName  "MAG"
ModelName   "S776i"
HorizSync   30.0 - 86.0
VertRefresh 60.0 - 75.0
Option  "DPMS"  "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "DFP-0"
VendorName  "DELL"
ModelName   "E228WFP"
HorizSync   30.0 - 83.0
VertRefresh 60.0 - 76.0
Option  "DPMS"  "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Videocard0"
Driver  "nvidia"
VendorName  "Videocard vendor"
BoardName   "NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT"
Option  "DPI"   "96 x 96"
Option  "RenderAccel"   "true"
Option  "Composite" "Enable"
Option  "TwinView"  "true"
#Option "UseEdidFreqs"  "false"
#Option "TwinViewOrientation"   "DFP-0 RightOf CRT-1"
#Option "UseEDID"   "false"
#Option "MetaModes" "1600x1050, 1280x1024; 
1280x1024,1280x1024; 1024x768,1024x768; 800x600,800x600; 640x480,640x480"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Screen0"
Device  "Videocard0"
Monitor "DFP-0"

RE: Package Hunt

[Joseph L. Casale]

>Anyone heard of libcrypto.so.8 and/or where I can find it?

Google suggests via rpmfind that it's an older (v<1) openssl lib from F11?
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Re: Linux C++ compiler

[Gilboa Davara]

On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 15:48 -0500, Matt Smith wrote:
> after typing g++ gedit_file.cc i get a filed name a.out in the same
> folder that is locked.  where do i go from here?  thanks

You're missing the output filename:

$ gcc source_filename.cc -o output_filename

Where output_filename is name of the resulting executable. (Equivalent
to .exe file in Windows/DOS)

If you want to execute the resulting executable, type:
$ ./output_filename

If you want to be able to debug the resulting executable, try:
(Quick and dirty solution)

First, install DDD (simple but effective debugger):
$ su -c 'yum install ddd'

Compile the file with debug information.
$ gcc source_filename.cc -ggdb3 -o output_filename

Start the debugger.
$ ddd ./output_filename

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Re: Package Hunt

[Mike Dwiggins]

Joseph L. Casale wrote:
>> Anyone heard of libcrypto.so.8 and/or where I can find it?
>> 
>
> Google suggests via rpmfind that it's an older (v<1) openssl lib from F11?
>   

Ach, did not think of goggle.  That sounds about right, the package that 
calls for it has it's last version as F 11.  Guess I will have to roll 
back to keep the Boss happy!

No way I will be able to convince him to wait for the new version.

Thanks


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Re: [Solved] Nividia Twinview Problem?

[Ed Greshko]

Marcel Rieux wrote:
>
> I first asked here and only Ed Greshko answered but he had no
> solution. I didn't have a single answer on the NVIDIA forums. So, yes,
> it's a rant.
>   
But, what I did say is that I did have twinview running a while back. 

FWIW, keep your sound problem in the same thread that you started with
subject "Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI".





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Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

[Ed Greshko]

Marcel Rieux wrote:
>
>> You have a Nvidia 9400GT "based" card.  Who is the card manufacture?
>> Gigabyte, MSI, ASUS, ZOTAC, ... ?
>> 
>
> Asus.
>
>   
>> What is the actual model number?
>> 
>
> No idea. OEM package.
>   
Is this a discrete card or is it embedded on the motherboard?

If it is a discrete card, can you remove it and really check?  I've had
Asus cards and the number was embossed on the card.  If it is embedded
on the motherboard then what is the model number of the motherboard.

What is the output of "lspci -v"?
>   
>> FWIW, not all vendor/configurations are equal and features may, and do,
>> vary by product.
>> 
>
> I checked Asus for my Twinview problem and there was only one message
> relating to Twinview and it had to do with DVI-D:
>
> ASUSTeK Computer Inc.-Forum- DVI-D doesn't work
> DVI-D works for me on my Sony Wega HDTV, with and without TwinView.
> Windows XP with VGA as primary CRT, DVI as secondary DFP. ...
> vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLanguage=en-us... - Cached
>
> I don't believe I'll fidn much on Asus' site. It's apparently not the
> forum where people go when they have problems.
>   
Why are you talking about Twinview here when the subject is "sound"?
> I wonder how much Asus modifies the card and if it's not only
> relabeling for tax purposes.
>   
Isn't that the point of my questions?


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Re: [Solved] Nividia Twinview Problem?

[Gilboa Davara]

On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 00:28 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 16:14 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Gilboa Davara  wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 19:19 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> > >> The cost of an Nvidia card is not the price you pay, but the time an
> > >> "I don't care company" will make you lose. At minimum wage, it's at
> > >> least ten times the price of the card.
> > >
> > > I'm using two screens with different aspect ration in TwinView mode on
> > > two machines.
> > > If you want to solve your problem (as opposed to useless rants), I'd
> > > suggest you start by posting information about your setup, org.conf,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > P.S. This is -not- a Fedora issue.
> > 
> > It might not be. Do you mean by this that Windows users experience the
> > same problem?
> 
> Nope.
> I'd imagine that it's a broken xorg.conf configuration.
> 
> > I first asked here and only Ed Greshko answered but he had no
> > solution. I didn't have a single answer on the NVIDIA forums. So, yes,
> > it's a rant.
> 
> You do understand that ranting won't get you anywhere - instead it'll
> simply annoy the people that might actually help you, right?
> 
> [snip]
> 

Please ignore.
After the first read, I assumed that you were having problem with your
TwinView settings.

Sorry for the noise.

- Gilboa


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Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

[Marcel Rieux]

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:

> What is the output of "lspci -v"?


00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a022
Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16
Memory at fe024000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel



01:00.0  VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation D9M-20 [GeForce
9400 GT] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 82be
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
Memory at fa00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Memory at f800 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
I/O ports at ef00 [size=128]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at fb00 [disabled] [size=512K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information 
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel 
Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting 
Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information 
Kernel driver in use: nvidia
Kernel modules: nvidia, nouveau, nvidiafb




>>> FWIW, not all vendor/configurations are equal and features may, and do,
>>> vary by product.
>>>
>>
>> I checked Asus for my Twinview problem and there was only one message
>> relating to Twinview and it had to do with DVI-D:
>>
>> ASUSTeK Computer Inc.-Forum- DVI-D doesn't work
>> DVI-D works for me on my Sony Wega HDTV, with and without TwinView.
>> Windows XP with VGA as primary CRT, DVI as secondary DFP. ...
>> vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLanguage=en-us... - Cached
>>
>> I don't believe I'll find much on Asus' site. It's apparently not the
>> forum where people go when they have problems.
>>
> Why are you talking about Twinview here when the subject is "sound"?

Because I have no problem getting sound from my computer outputs, only
on teh TV using Twinview. Besides, this is the kind of stuff I'll have
to go through:



Honestly, I can't stand it no more.

>> I wonder how much Asus modifies the card and if it's not only
>> relabeling for tax purposes.
>>
> Isn't that the point of my questions?

If there was any sense in going to the Asus forum, don't you think I
would have been told on NVIDIA forums?
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How to Install Nvidia and not Nouveau at New Install

[Jim]

FC12-X86_64/KDE

How do I prevent Nouveau driver from installing at New install , so I 
can install
Nvidia ?
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Re: [Solved] Nividia Twinview Problem?

[Marcel Rieux]

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> Marcel Rieux wrote:
>>
>> I first asked here and only Ed Greshko answered but he had no
>> solution. I didn't have a single answer on the NVIDIA forums. So, yes,
>> it's a rant.
>>
> But, what I did say is that I did have twinview running a while back.

You said that you got it working by putting some settings in the
Device instead of the screen section but the documentation is adamant
Sreen Or Device is the same. That's not the problem.  I left it where
nvidia-settings puts it. If NVIDIA is wrong and they provide no
support, they'll feel the shit hit the fan.

Maybe you should try to realize your tour de force once more if it's
so little problem to you. I mean no getting some kind of something on
the TV,

5x4 background images not streched on the TV, but 4x3 stretched,

mplayer not quite filling the screen

and so on.

I mean something that looks clean and not as a quick hack.

I use NVIDIA proprietary drivers and nvidia-settings to set up
xorg.conf. The community doesn't have the code and I cannot ask the
community to fix teh problem. It's for NVIDIA to fix the problem. If
Asus fucked things up, NVIDIA shouldn't license them to use their
hardware. I won't run around between the two.

Nvidia CEO, Jen-Hsun Huang, makes his publicity for being very helpful:

"And it was there that he first showed signs of leadership. Sharing
quarters with an illiterate 17-year-old covered in tattoos and knife
scars, Huang taught his roommate how to read."

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.07/Nvidia.html

I don't find the guy helpful at all, offering no support whatsoever.

> FWIW, keep your sound problem in the same thread that you started with
> subject "Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI".

What concerned sound has been reposted to the sound thread. You missed nothing.
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Re: [Solved] Nividia Twinview Problem?

[Marcel Rieux]

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Gilboa Davara  wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 16:14 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Gilboa Davara  wrote:
>> > On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 19:19 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote:
>> >> The cost of an Nvidia card is not the price you pay, but the time an
>> >> "I don't care company" will make you lose. At minimum wage, it's at
>> >> least ten times the price of the card.
>> >
>> > I'm using two screens with different aspect ration in TwinView mode on
>> > two machines.
>> > If you want to solve your problem (as opposed to useless rants), I'd
>> > suggest you start by posting information about your setup, org.conf,
>> > etc.
>> >
>> > P.S. This is -not- a Fedora issue.
>>
>> It might not be. Do you mean by this that Windows users experience the
>> same problem?
>
> Nope.
> I'd imagine that it's a broken xorg.conf configuration.

What broke my xorg.conf?  nvidia-settings. Do you believe nvsvc32.exe
breaks Windows settings? Possible.

>> I first asked here and only Ed Greshko answered but he had no
>> solution. I didn't have a single answer on the NVIDIA forums. So, yes,
>> it's a rant.

> You do understand that ranting won't get you anywhere

You know what? The first message I posted on NVIDIA forums was a rant.
It's not that I'm just fed up with them giving no support at all. So,
I thank you very much for your advice.

> Hope it helps,

It doesn't. I won't try the billion combinations possible between your
file and mine. If you know how to get a clean set up -- not something
that looks like a quick hack, like I was telling Ed -- from the xorg
file nvidia-settings has created, please tell me. Otherwise, I've been
through enough: Why don't you try this and that.

At minimum wage, I've spent more then 10 times the price of the card
to try to get it working. This is not normal. If you have a precise
solution, I'll try it. But there are too many people on the net losing
way too much time trying to get NVIDIA cards working, either with
Linux or Windows. When you offer a product, you must provide support.

NVIDIA's attitude is unacceptable.
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Re: need howto for SELinux config--ssh on non-standard port

[John Poelstra]

Daniel J Walsh said the following on 01/21/2010 05:05 AM Pacific Time:

On 01/20/2010 11:35 PM, John Poelstra wrote:


Where else should I be looking?

It is very clear that I can log in remotely on the non-standard port w/
selinux disabled and that it will not work when selinux is enabled.

John

ausearch -m avc -ts today

Should show you all of the AVC messages that you received today.  If you are 
using auditing.

ausearch -m avc

Will show you all avc's that your system has logged

ausearch -m avc | audit2allow

Will give you the audit rules.

If you have been in permissive mode for a while, the log messages might have 
disappeared.

setenforce 1
setenforce 0

Will cause avc messages to show up again.


The root of the problem seems to be that there are no AVC messages.  All 
of our previous discussion has centered around creating a new policy for 
them so it appears I need a different fix?


I do see these errors in /var/log/secure on the server, but that is all.

Jan 24 19:50:47 localhost sshd[1150]: Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 
63000.

Jan 24 19:50:47 localhost sshd[1150]: Server listening on :: port 63000.
Jan 24 19:50:54 localhost sshd[1151]: Accepted publickey for jp from 
192.168.122.1 port 45292 ssh2
Jan 24 19:50:54 localhost sshd[1151]: pam_selinux(sshd:session): 
conversation failed
Jan 24 19:50:54 localhost sshd[1151]: pam_selinux(sshd:session): No 
response to query: Would you like to enter a security context? [N]
Jan 24 19:50:54 localhost sshd[1151]: pam_selinux(sshd:session): Unable 
to get valid context for jp
Jan 24 19:50:54 localhost sshd[1151]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session 
opened for user jp by (uid=0)
Jan 24 19:50:54 localhost sshd[1151]: error: PAM: pam_open_session(): 
Authentication failure
Jan 24 19:50:54 localhost sshd[1151]: error: ssh_selinux_setup_pty: 
security_compute_relabel: Invalid argument


-
Here is what hits /var/log/audit/audit.log

type=USER_ACCT msg=audit(1264392255.965:73): user pid=1253 uid=0 auid=0 
ses=3 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
msg='op=PAM:accounting acct="jp" exe="/usr/sbin/sshd" 
hostname=192.168.122.1 addr=192.168.122.1 terminal=ssh res=success'
type=CRED_ACQ msg=audit(1264392255.995:74): user pid=1253 uid=0 auid=0 
ses=3 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
msg='op=PAM:setcred acct="jp" exe="/usr/sbin/sshd" 
hostname=192.168.122.1 addr=192.168.122.1 terminal=ssh res=success'
type=LOGIN msg=audit(1264392255.996:75): login pid=1253 uid=0 old auid=0 
new auid=500 old ses=3 new ses=8
type=USER_START msg=audit(1264392256.118:76): user pid=1253 uid=0 
auid=500 ses=8 
subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
msg='op=PAM:session_open acct="jp" exe="/usr/sbin/sshd" 
hostname=192.168.122.1 addr=192.168.122.1 terminal=ssh res=failed'
type=CRED_ACQ msg=audit(1264392256.125:77): user pid=1256 uid=0 auid=500 
ses=8 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
msg='op=PAM:setcred acct="jp" exe="/usr/sbin/sshd" 
hostname=192.168.122.1 addr=192.168.122.1 terminal=ssh res=success'
type=USER_LOGIN msg=audit(1264392256.130:78): user pid=1253 uid=0 
auid=500 ses=8 
subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='uid=500: 
exe="/usr/sbin/sshd" hostname=192.168.122.1 addr=192.168.122.1 
terminal=/dev/pts/2 res=success'
type=CRED_DISP msg=audit(1264392256.143:79): user pid=1253 uid=0 
auid=500 ses=8 
subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
msg='op=PAM:setcred acct="jp" exe="/usr/sbin/sshd" 
hostname=192.168.122.1 addr=192.168.122.1 terminal=ssh res=success'


-


From the remote host it appears that a connection is made and then 
immediately closed.


$ ssh -p 63000 j...@192.168.122.214
Last login: Sun Jan 24 19:50:54 2010 from 192.168.122.1
Connection to 192.168.122.214 closed.

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I'm attaching my sshd config file if you want to try this out.  As the 
config file shows, I'm using a preshared public key and password use is 
disabled as is root login.  Run it by:

# /usr/sbin/sshd -f sshd_config

If I disable selinux with setenforce 0, login works fine.
Port 63000
Protocol 2
SyslogFacility AUTHPRIV
PermitRootLogin no 
PasswordAuthentication no
ChallengeResponseAuthentication no
GSSAPIAuthentication yes
GSSAPICleanupCredentials yes
UsePAM yes
AcceptEnv LANG LC_CTYPE LC_NUMERIC LC_TIME LC_COLLATE LC_MONETARY LC_MESSAGES 
AcceptEnv LC_PAPER LC_NAME LC_ADDRESS LC_TELEPHONE LC_MEASUREMENT 
AcceptEnv LC_IDENTIFICATION LC_ALL
X11Forwarding yes
Subsystem   sftp/usr/libexec/openssh/sftp-server
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Re: [Solved] Nividia Twinview Problem?

[Ed Greshko]

Marcel Rieux wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>   
>> Marcel Rieux wrote:
>> 
>>> I first asked here and only Ed Greshko answered but he had no
>>> solution. I didn't have a single answer on the NVIDIA forums. So, yes,
>>> it's a rant.
>>>
>>>   
>> But, what I did say is that I did have twinview running a while back.
>> 
>
> You said that you got it working by putting some settings in the
> Device instead of the screen section but the documentation is adamant
> Sreen Or Device is the same. That's not the problem.  I left it where
> nvidia-settings puts it. If NVIDIA is wrong and they provide no
> support, they'll feel the shit hit the fan.
>   
Everything worked just fine for me.



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Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

[Ed Greshko]

Marcel Rieux wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>
>   
>> What is the output of "lspci -v"?
>> 
>
>
> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
>   Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a022
>   Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16
>   Memory at fe024000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
>   Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
>   Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
>   Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
>
>
>
> 01:00.0  VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation D9M-20 [GeForce
> 9400 GT] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
>   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 82be
>   Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
>   Memory at fa00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
>   Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
>   Memory at f800 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
>   I/O ports at ef00 [size=128]
>   [virtual] Expansion ROM at fb00 [disabled] [size=512K]
>   Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
>   Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
>   Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
>   Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information 
>   Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel 
>   Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting 
>   Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information 
>   Kernel driver in use: nvidia
>   Kernel modules: nvidia, nouveau, nvidiafb
>   
Too bad you have chosen to not answer the other questions
>
>
>
>   
 FWIW, not all vendor/configurations are equal and features may, and do,
 vary by product.

 
>>> I checked Asus for my Twinview problem and there was only one message
>>> relating to Twinview and it had to do with DVI-D:
>>>
>>> ASUSTeK Computer Inc.-Forum- DVI-D doesn't work
>>> DVI-D works for me on my Sony Wega HDTV, with and without TwinView.
>>> Windows XP with VGA as primary CRT, DVI as secondary DFP. ...
>>> vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLanguage=en-us... - Cached
>>>
>>> I don't believe I'll find much on Asus' site. It's apparently not the
>>> forum where people go when they have problems.
>>>
>>>   
>> Why are you talking about Twinview here when the subject is "sound"?
>> 
>
> Because I have no problem getting sound from my computer outputs, only
> on teh TV using Twinview. Besides, this is the kind of stuff I'll have
> to go through:
>
> 
>
> Honestly, I can't stand it no more.
>
>   
>>> I wonder how much Asus modifies the card and if it's not only
>>> relabeling for tax purposes.
>>>
>>>   
>> Isn't that the point of my questions?
>> 
>
> If there was any sense in going to the Asus forum, don't you think I
> would have been told on NVIDIA forums?
>   
I still don't understand why you are mixing twinview with soundbut
never mind.

Good luck...

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Re: Package Hunt

[Joonas Sarajärvi]

2010/1/25 Mike Dwiggins :
>
>
> Joseph L. Casale wrote:
>>> Anyone heard of libcrypto.so.8 and/or where I can find it?
>>>
>>
>> Google suggests via rpmfind that it's an older (v<1) openssl lib from F11?
>>
>
> Ach, did not think of goggle.  That sounds about right, the package that
> calls for it has it's last version as F 11.  Guess I will have to roll
> back to keep the Boss happy!
>
> No way I will be able to convince him to wait for the new version.
>

Security and bug maintenance ending next summer is not good enough
reason for upgrading? Of course you still have a few months of support
in F11 available, but eventually you will probably need to upgrade it.
Fedora is not very good a distro for long term use unless you have the
upgrades planned into your usage.



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Re: vlogger installation

[Jatin K]

On 01/23/2010 02:04 PM, sandeep Patel wrote:
> hello,
> Could anyone tell me how to install vlogger sofware? And how 
> to use it?
>
> -- 
> Sandeep Kumar Patel
> University of Hyderabad
are you talking about video blogging ??? or the key logger for linux 


please define the matter  and see the link [1]

[1] http://n0rp.chemlab.org/vlogger/




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Re: How to Install Nvidia and not Nouveau at New Install

[François Patte]

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Le 25/01/2010 04:27, Jim a écrit :
> FC12-X86_64/KDE
> 
> How do I prevent Nouveau driver from installing at New install , so I 
> can install
> Nvidia ?

Why do you want to do this? You can install nvidia driver afterwards


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Re: vlogger installation

[sandeep Patel]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Jatin K  wrote:

> On 01/23/2010 02:04 PM, sandeep Patel wrote:
> > hello,
> > Could anyone tell me how to install vlogger sofware? And how
> > to use it?
> >
> > --
> > Sandeep Kumar Patel
> > University of Hyderabad
> are you talking about video blogging ??? or the key logger for linux 
>
>
> please define the matter  and see the link [1]
>
> [1] http://n0rp.chemlab.org/vlogger/
>
> I am talking about the keylogger for linux.
>
>
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