Re: Lexmark printer

2010-04-21 Thread charles zeitler
Do what thou wilt
shall  be the whole  of the Law.


 ... There is one printer manufacturer though that as of last year has
 begun supporting Linux from top to bottom
..
 company, Lexmark has stepped up to become a Linux and open-source
 friendly company.

 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=lexmark_linuxnum=1

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lexmark may 'support linux' by offering linux compatible(?) drivers,
but their support of 'open source' seems lacking,  support of
Free Software (c) is just not there.

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Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread g
Steve Blackwell wrote:
snip
 so it appears that someone was trying to break in to my machine.

do you have 'ping reply' enabled on your cable modem?

if so, i would suggest that you disable it so you are not visible.

hth.

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Re: Clamav

2010-04-21 Thread Alan Evans
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Bugfix (by a non-Albanian): FIRST send this mail to everyone you know, and
 AFTER THAT delete all the files on the disk.

See. Open source works!
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Re: EPEL clamav packages

2010-04-21 Thread Felix Schwarz
Am 21.04.2010 06:33, schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
 On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:46:33 +1000
 Dan Irwinrummymob...@gmail.com  wrote:

 The clamav packages in EPEL are quite broken, and don't work out of
 the box. I think this has been the case for many months.

 Have you filed any bugs? Whats broken?

There are a couple of bugs:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=clamavproduct=Fedora%20EPEL

Some also have security impact. Basically the problem is that it is extremly 
hard to provide the ABI/config stability for clamav. Combined with a few 
questionable decisions when it came to packaging + a not-so-active maintainer 
and we have a basically orphaned package in EPEL.

I've spoken to a few Fedora packagers who where interested in maintaining the 
package. However the premise for them was that they can also decide how the 
Fedora package should look like - and at that time the current maintainer had 
strong feelings about this topic...

If you could initiate a discussion on epel-devel, I can ping a few of the 
previously interested people...

fs
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Re: Lexmark printer

2010-04-21 Thread Andre Robatino
Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+linux at gmail.com writes:

 You would be happy to know on GNU/linux, they are the printer
 manufacturer of choice now. :)
 
 ... There is one printer manufacturer though that as of last year has
 begun supporting Linux from top to bottom with their entire line-up of
 printers. Not only are they providing CUPS drivers, but also they are
 even printing Tux in the corner of every box they ship right besides
 the Windows and Apple logos. Do you know who we are talking about?
 Probably not, but it's Lexmark. After months of wrangling within the
 company, Lexmark has stepped up to become a Linux and open-source
 friendly company.
 
 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=lexmark_linuxnum=1

They've provided Linux drivers for a long time, but they only maintain them as
long as they're selling the corresponding printer.  I have a Lexmark Z22 printer
that gradually became unusable for this reason.  I replaced it with a Samsung
laser printer with built-in Fedora driver support.  Unless Lexmark open-sources
its drivers, their printers aren't worth the trouble.



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[OT] Help with Perl Script

2010-04-21 Thread Dan Track
Hi,

I appreciate that this is off-topic and wholly understand if I don't
get an answer, although one would really appreciate it if I do get an
answer :)

Basically to improve my perl scripting, I've given myself a challenge
where I would like to order the users in the passwd file by uid, I
could do this in another language but I'm focused on improving my perl
scripting. The script I've written so far is below, I've managed to
figure out hashes and have read in the file and created a hash of
hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the
hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone
please help me to finish this off? I'm trying to avoid using perl
modules as I want to improve my scripting ability.

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

use strict;

  my ( $login, $p, $uid, $gid, $gecos, $dir, $s );
  my $k;
  my $v;
  my $key;
  my $ip;
  my $value;
  my @sorted=();

my @uid=();

my %HoH = ();

my $file='/etc/passwd';

open( PASSWD,  $file ) or die Can't open $file : $!;

 while( PASSWD ) {
           ( $login, $p, $uid, $gid, $gecos, $dir, $s ) = split( ':' );

           $HoH{ $login }{ 'login' } = $login;
           $HoH{ $login }{ 'p' } = $p;
           $HoH{ $login }{ 'uid' } = $uid;
           $HoH{ $login }{ 'gid' } = $gid;
           $HoH{ $login }{ 'gecos' } = $gecos;
           $HoH{ $login }{ 'dir' } = $dir;
           $HoH{ $login }{ 's' } = $s;
           #print $login\n;
       }

       close PASSWD;

#while (($k,$v) = each %HoH) {
#   print While Loop: $k\n;
#}

#foreach $ip (keys %HoH) {
#   print First For:  $ip\n;
#    while (($key, $value) = each %{ $HoH{$ip} } ) {
#        print $key = $value \n;
#    }
#   print \n;
#}

#while ( ($k, $v) = each %HoH ) {
#    print $k: \n;
#    while ( ($key, $value) = each %$v ) {
#        print $key=$value ;
#    }
#    print \n;
#}

#for $k ( sort keys %HoH ) {
#    print $k: ;
#    for $v ( sort keys %{ $HoH{$k} } ) {
#         print $v=$HoH{$k}{$v} ;
#    }
#    print \n;
#}

#...@sorted = sort { $HoH{$a} cmp $HoH{$b} } keys %HoH;
#print @sorted\n;

#foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH{$a}-{uid} cmp $HoH{$b}-{uid} }
keys %HoH)
foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys %HoH)
{
print STDOUT $HoH{$sorted}\n
}

Thank in advance for any help.

Dan
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Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Kevin H. Hobbs
On 04/21/2010 02:07 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
 Of course, combining methods
 can work nicely. 

Don't forget about the denyhosts package which will watch
/var/log/secure for repeated failed login attempts and attempts for
accounts like root and add the host to /etc/hosts.deny.



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Re: zoneminder AXIS mpeg4 ffmpeg-libraries

2010-04-21 Thread Nikolay Yatsyshyn




R. G. Newbury wrote:

  On 04/20/2010 01:10 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
  
  Clearly there is a problem with the includes. Either avutil.h is not 
installed at all, or it is installed somewhere else. If it is installed, 
but somewhere else, you have two choices: make a symlink at 
../libavutil/avutil.h pointing back to whereever the file actually is, 
or find the source.c file which is looking for avutil.h (using grep) and 
fix the include call to #include=avutil.h or /ffmpeg/avutil.h or whatever.
If it is not installed something has gone very wrong!

And could you please take the time to trim your posts..please?

Geoff


  Tux says: "Be regular. Eat cron flakes."
  

so, I make patch for rpmbuild spec, logs after rebuild:
config.log:
ac_cv_header_ffmpeg_libavcodec_avcodec_h=yes
ac_cv_header_ffmpeg_libavformat_avformat_h=yes
ac_cv_header_ffmpeg_libavutil_avutil_h=yes
ac_cv_header_ffmpeg_libswscale_swscale_h=yes
ac_cv_header_libavcodec_avcodec_h=yes
ac_cv_header_libavformat_avformat_h=yes
ac_cv_header_libavutil_avutil_h=yes
ac_cv_header_libswscale_swscale_h=yes

status.log
D["HAVE_LIBAVUTIL_AVUTIL_H"]=" 1"
D["HAVE_FFMPEG_LIBAVUTIL_AVUTIL_H"]=" 1"
D["HAVE_LIBAVCODEC_AVCODEC_H"]=" 1"
D["HAVE_FFMPEG_LIBAVCODEC_AVCODEC_H"]=" 1"
D["HAVE_LIBAVFORMAT_AVFORMAT_H"]=" 1"
D["HAVE_FFMPEG_LIBAVFORMAT_AVFORMAT_H"]=" 1"
D["HAVE_LIBSWSCALE_SWSCALE_H"]=" 1"
D["HAVE_FFMPEG_LIBSWSCALE_SWSCALE_H"]=" 1"

but still get "You must have ffmpeg libraries installed to use remote
camera protocol 'rtsp' for monitor 3"

patch:
diff -up configure.ac configure.ac
--- configure.ac    2010-04-21 13:23:30.0 +0300
+++ configure.ac    2010-04-21 13:25:29.0 +0300
@@ -74,8 +74,8 @@ AC_ARG_WITH(ffmpeg,
 e.g. --with-ffmpeg=/usr/local])
 )
 AC_SUBST(FFMPEG_PREFIX)
-FFMPEG_LIBS="-L${FFMPEG_PREFIX}/${LIB_ARCH}"
-FFMPEG_CFLAGS="-I${FFMPEG_PREFIX}/include"
+FFMPEG_LIBS=`pkg-config --libs libavcodec libavdevice libavfilter
libavformat libavutil libpostproc libswscale`
+FFMPEG_CFLAGS=`pkg-config --cflags libavcodec libavdevice libavfilter
libavformat libavutil libpostproc libswscale`
 AC_SUBST(FFMPEG_LIBS)
 AC_SUBST(FFMPEG_CFLAGS)

@@ -259,14 +259,13 @@ AC_CHECK_HEADERS(linux/videodev.h,,AC_MS
 AC_CHECK_HEADERS(linux/videodev2.h,AC_SUBST(ZM_V4L2,"1"),AC_MSG_WARN(zm
requires Video4Linux2 to be installed for V4L2 support),)
 AC_CHECK_HEADERS(mysql/mysql.h,,AC_MSG_ERROR(zm requires MySQL headers
- check that MySQL development packages are installed),)
 AC_CHECK_HEADERS(libavutil/avutil.h,,,)
-AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/avutil.h,,,)
+AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/libavutil/avutil.h,,,)
 AC_CHECK_HEADERS(libavcodec/avcodec.h,,,)
-AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/avcodec.h,,,)
+AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/libavcodec/avcodec.h,,,)
 AC_CHECK_HEADERS(libavformat/avformat.h,,,)
-AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/avformat.h,,,)
+AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/libavformat/avformat.h,,,)
 AC_CHECK_HEADERS(libswscale/swscale.h,,,)
-AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/swscale.h,,,)
-AC_CHECK_HEADERS(pcre/pcre.h,AC_SUBST(ZM_PCRE,"1"),,)
+AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/libswscale/swscale.h,,,)
 AC_CHECK_HEADERS(pcre.h,AC_SUBST(ZM_PCRE,"1"),,)
 if test "$ENABLE_MMAP" = "yes"; then
 AC_CHECK_HEADERS(sys/mman.h,,,)




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Packagekit bug icon not disappearing in F11!

2010-04-21 Thread mike cloaked
I have machines running both F11 and F12 - in F12 if there are updates
available then the PackageKit icon pops onto the (gnome) taskbar, and
if I then use yum on the CLI to update the system the icon on the
taskbar goes away once the updates are complete. Presumably if I
allowed PackageKit to run the updates then the same would happen.
(Often I update from another machine via ssh which is why yum is my
preferred update method)

On the other hand on my F11 machine when the updates notification pops
up, if I use yum to update the system then the icon remains and does
not magically disappear from the taskbar until I log out and back in
again - this is with the gnome desktop.

Am I alone or do other users see this also?  It is not a major problem
but is a slight irritation!

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Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script

2010-04-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:20:27 +0100,
  Dan Track dan.tr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Basically to improve my perl scripting, I've given myself a challenge
 where I would like to order the users in the passwd file by uid, I
 could do this in another language but I'm focused on improving my perl
 scripting. The script I've written so far is below, I've managed to
 figure out hashes and have read in the file and created a hash of
 hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the
 hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone
 please help me to finish this off? I'm trying to avoid using perl
 modules as I want to improve my scripting ability.

It looks like you are doing string comparisons on the uid. I think you
might want to try = instead of cmp.
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Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script

2010-04-21 Thread Norman Gaywood
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:21:30AM +0100, Dan Track wrote:
 hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the
 hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone
[snip] 
 foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys %HoH)

cmp is a string comparison. You probably want to sort numerically on the
uid. So replace 'cmp' with '='

Perhaps that is the problem?

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Re: Packagekit bug icon not disappearing in F11!

2010-04-21 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Kelly Dunlop ke...@xyzzy.org.uk wrote:

 I'm running F11 and Gnome and sometimes I use yum or if I'm feeling lazy I
 just click on the PackageKit icon and let it do the updates.  Either way
 the icon goes away afterwards.  Sometimes it may take a few minutes because
 PackageKit obviously has to do the equivalent of a yum check-update to see
 what you've updated.   I know this because if do a yum from the command line
 and only update some of the packages and then try immediately to do another
 yum update there is a lock in place.

 I think I'd be irritated if it didn't go away because it should allow you
 to use yum in preference to the GUI.

Well interestingly I set the preferences to never check for updates or
major upgrades and to never install and yet it still does pop up so it
must still actually check for updates - I know that I could uninstall
gnome packagekit altogether but it is a bit disconcerting that it
appears to still check for updates when you asked it not to!

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Re: gpk-update-viewer vs. yum

2010-04-21 Thread Richard Hughes
On 16 April 2010 22:35, Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com wrote:
 Hmmm, I'd call that a work-around, not a solution.  The solution is for
 gpk (in fact, all GUI-based stuff) to query the NICs via something like

        ip link show up | egrep (eth.:|wlan.:)

 and see if any network link is up.  Or scan /proc/net/dev (or one of
 the /proc/net files).

That doesn't get us the connection type (GPRS dialup, WLAN, wired
data) and the NM API is so much easier to use. That said, to ignore NM
completely just edit /etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf and change
UseNetworkManager=false

Richard.
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Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 06:07 +, g wrote:
 Steve Blackwell wrote:
 snip
  so it appears that someone was trying to break in to my machine.
 
 do you have 'ping reply' enabled on your cable modem?
 
 if so, i would suggest that you disable it so you are not visible.

It might help against naive attempts, but there are other ways of
checking visibility.

poc


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Re: Packagekit bug icon not disappearing in F11!

2010-04-21 Thread Kelly Dunlop
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 01:58:31PM +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Kelly Dunlop ke...@xyzzy.org.uk wrote:
 
  I'm running F11 and Gnome and sometimes I use yum or if I'm feeling lazy I
  just click on the PackageKit icon and let it do the updates. ?Either way
  the icon goes away afterwards. ?Sometimes it may take a few minutes because
  PackageKit obviously has to do the equivalent of a yum check-update to see
  what you've updated. ? I know this because if do a yum from the command line
  and only update some of the packages and then try immediately to do another
  yum update there is a lock in place.
 
  I think I'd be irritated if it didn't go away because it should allow you
  to use yum in preference to the GUI.
 
 Well interestingly I set the preferences to never check for updates or
 major upgrades and to never install and yet it still does pop up so it
 must still actually check for updates - I know that I could uninstall
 gnome packagekit altogether but it is a bit disconcerting that it
 appears to still check for updates when you asked it not to!

To be honest I probably did the same thing because I'd rather update things
when I want to but I'm not actually by the machine at the moment - it's at home.
I'll try and see what I have it set to tonight and let you know.

Kelly
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Re: How to list what users are in a group

2010-04-21 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 16:39 -0600, David Bartmess wrote: 
 This is a basic linux question, but how do I find out what users are 
 included in a given group?
 
 Thanks!
 
Seems to me that their userid would have to appear in the groups entry
in the /etc/group file. 
 


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Re: How to list what users are in a group

2010-04-21 Thread Natxo Asenjo
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:39 AM, David Bartmess dingod...@edingo.net wrote:
 This is a basic linux question, but how do I find out what users are
 included in a given group?

 Thanks!

getent group groupname should do the trick.

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Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:33:11 -0400
Steve Blackwell zep...@cfl.rr.com wrote:

 I was looking at my logwatch mail and saw:
 
  Failed logins from:
 62.39.117.140 (140.117.39-62.rev.gaoland.net): 139 times
 220.128.67.41: 9 times
  
  Illegal users from:
 62.39.117.140 (140.117.39-62.rev.gaoland.net): 229 times
 220.128.67.41: 2 times
  
  
  Received disconnect:
 11: Bye Bye : 379 Time(s)
 
 so it appears that someone was trying to break in to my machine.
 
 I googled rev.gaoland.net (http://whois.domaintools.com/gaoland.net)
 and it appears to be some kind of French ISP.
 Is there some place to report this?
 
 Steve

rkhunter is reporting this:

-- Start Rootkit Hunter Scan --
Warning: Suspicious file types found in /dev:

/dev/shm/mono-shared-500-shared_fileshare-steve.blackwell-Linux-i686-36-12-0:data
 
/dev/shm/mono-shared-500-shared_data-steve.blackwell-Linux-i686-312-12-0:data 
/dev/shm/mono.2812: data

process 2812 is tomboy so that should be OK. What are the other 2?
Normal? OK to whitelist them?

Thanks,
Steve
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Re: How to list what users are in a group

2010-04-21 Thread Karl-Olov Serrander
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, Natxo Asenjo wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:39 AM, David Bartmess dingod...@edingo.net wrote:
 This is a basic linux question, but how do I find out what users are
 included in a given group?

 Thanks!

 getent group groupname should do the trick.

But that doeas not show users which has groupname as the primary group.

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Re: How to list what users are in a group

2010-04-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Karl-Olov Serrander m11...@abc.se said:
 On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, Natxo Asenjo wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:39 AM, David Bartmess dingod...@edingo.net 
  wrote:
  This is a basic linux question, but how do I find out what users are
  included in a given group?
 
  Thanks!
 
  getent group groupname should do the trick.
 
 But that doeas not show users which has groupname as the primary group.

No, for that you have to list all users and look at the primary group
field.

getent passwd | grep ^[^:]*:[^:]*:[^:]*:$(getent group groupname | cut -d: 
-f3):

Primary/aux groups in Unix are set up in a less-than-efficient way for
searching.
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Re: Packagekit bug icon not disappearing in F11!

2010-04-21 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Kelly Dunlop ke...@xyzzy.org.uk wrote:


 Well interestingly I set the preferences to never check for updates or
 major upgrades and to never install and yet it still does pop up so it
 must still actually check for updates - I know that I could uninstall
 gnome packagekit altogether but it is a bit disconcerting that it
 appears to still check for updates when you asked it not to!

 To be honest I probably did the same thing because I'd rather update things
 when I want to but I'm not actually by the machine at the moment - it's at 
 home.
 I'll try and see what I have it set to tonight and let you know.

 Kelly

OK - interestingly I decided to change the settings so that the update
check was hourly - then at the next check the icon DID disappear as
expected - but if it is set to never check for updates then it still
seems to check and then never get rid of the icon after the yum update
which I suspect is a bug in the F11 version!

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Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script

2010-04-21 Thread Dan Track
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:21:30AM +0100, Dan Track wrote:
 hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the
 hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone
 [snip]
 foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys %HoH)

 cmp is a string comparison. You probably want to sort numerically on the
 uid. So replace 'cmp' with '='

 Perhaps that is the problem?

Hi,

Thanks for that, although it didn't work at least I think so.

foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH{$a}-{uid} = $HoH{$b}-{uid} } keys %HoH)
{
print STDOUT $HoH{$sorted}\n
}


and all I get out is:

perl sort.pl
HASH(0x89de3d0)
HASH(0x8a05d40)
HASH(0x8a05dd0)
HASH(0x8a05e60)
HASH(0x8a05ef0)
HASH(0x8a05f80)
HASH(0x8a06010)
HASH(0x8a060a0)
HASH(0x8a06130)
HASH(0x8a061c0)
HASH(0x8a06250)
HASH(0x8a062e0)
HASH(0x8a06370)
HASH(0x8a06400)
HASH(0x8a0fd70)
HASH(0x8a0fe90)
HASH(0x8a101f0)
HASH(0x8a10040)
HASH(0x8a10790)
HASH(0x8a100d0)
HASH(0x8a10160)
HASH(0x8a10700)
HASH(0x8a10430)
HASH(0x8a0ff20)
HASH(0x8a10550)
HASH(0x8a10310)
HASH(0x8a0ffb0)
HASH(0x8a103a0)
HASH(0x8a0fe00)
HASH(0x8a104c0)
HASH(0x8a105e0)
HASH(0x8a10670)
HASH(0x8a10280)

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks
Dan
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Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script

2010-04-21 Thread Norman Gaywood
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 04:12:06PM +0100, Dan Track wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:21:30AM +0100, Dan Track wrote:
  hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the
  hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone
  [snip]
  foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys 
  %HoH)
 
  cmp is a string comparison. You probably want to sort numerically on the
  uid. So replace 'cmp' with '='
 
 foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH{$a}-{uid} = $HoH{$b}-{uid} } keys 
 %HoH)
 {
 print STDOUT $HoH{$sorted}\n
 }

 and all I get out is:
 
 perl sort.pl
 HASH(0x89de3d0)
 HASH(0x8a05d40)
[snip]

$HoH{$sorted} is a reference to a hash. $HoH{$a}{uid} (or in
long hand $HoH{$a}-{uid}) should print out the uid numbers.

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Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On 4/21/10, Kevin H. Hobbs hob...@ohiou.edu wrote:
 On 04/21/2010 02:07 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
 Of course, combining methods
 can work nicely.

 Don't forget about the denyhosts package which will watch
 /var/log/secure for repeated failed login attempts and attempts for
 accounts like root and add the host to /etc/hosts.deny.


How can I tell if I have this package denyhosts package installed in F-12??

TIA

Marvin
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Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Ryan Pugatch
On 04/21/2010 11:34 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 How can I tell if I have this package denyhosts package installed in F-12??

 TIA

 Marvin

yum info denyhosts or rpm -q denyhosts

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Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script

2010-04-21 Thread Norman Gaywood
On 22 April 2010 01:26, Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 04:12:06PM +0100, Dan Track wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:21:30AM +0100, Dan Track wrote:
  hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the
  hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone
  [snip]
  foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys 
  %HoH)
 
  cmp is a string comparison. You probably want to sort numerically on the
  uid. So replace 'cmp' with '='

 foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH{$a}-{uid} = $HoH{$b}-{uid} } keys 
 %HoH)
 {
 print STDOUT $HoH{$sorted}\n
 }

 and all I get out is:

 perl sort.pl
 HASH(0x89de3d0)
 HASH(0x8a05d40)
 [snip]

 $HoH{$sorted} is a reference to a hash. $HoH{$a}{uid} (or in
 long hand $HoH{$a}-{uid}) should print out the uid numbers.

That should be $HoH{$sorted}{uid}

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Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script

2010-04-21 Thread jack craig
google is perl's best friend, google, 'perl sort arrays' ...

good luck, jackc...

On 04/21/2010 01:21 AM, Dan Track wrote:
 Hi,

 I appreciate that this is off-topic and wholly understand if I don't
 get an answer, although one would really appreciate it if I do get an
 answer :)

 Basically to improve my perl scripting, I've given myself a challenge
 where I would like to order the users in the passwd file by uid, I
 could do this in another language but I'm focused on improving my perl
 scripting. The script I've written so far is below, I've managed to
 figure out hashes and have read in the file and created a hash of
 hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the
 hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone
 please help me to finish this off? I'm trying to avoid using perl
 modules as I want to improve my scripting ability.

 #!/usr/bin/perl -w

 use strict;

 my ( $login, $p, $uid, $gid, $gecos, $dir, $s );
 my $k;
 my $v;
 my $key;
 my $ip;
 my $value;
 my @sorted=();

 my @uid=();

 my %HoH = ();

 my $file='/etc/passwd';

 open( PASSWD,   $file ) or die Can't open $file : $!;

   while(PASSWD  ) {
  ( $login, $p, $uid, $gid, $gecos, $dir, $s ) = split( ':' );

  $HoH{ $login }{ 'login' } = $login;
  $HoH{ $login }{ 'p' } = $p;
  $HoH{ $login }{ 'uid' } = $uid;
  $HoH{ $login }{ 'gid' } = $gid;
  $HoH{ $login }{ 'gecos' } = $gecos;
  $HoH{ $login }{ 'dir' } = $dir;
  $HoH{ $login }{ 's' } = $s;
  #print $login\n;
  }

  close PASSWD;

 #while (($k,$v) = each %HoH) {
 #   print While Loop: $k\n;
 #}

 #foreach $ip (keys %HoH) {
 #   print First For:  $ip\n;
 #while (($key, $value) = each %{ $HoH{$ip} } ) {
 #print $key = $value \n;
 #}
 #   print \n;
 #}

 #while ( ($k, $v) = each %HoH ) {
 #print $k: \n;
 #while ( ($key, $value) = each %$v ) {
 #print $key=$value ;
 #}
 #print \n;
 #}

 #for $k ( sort keys %HoH ) {
 #print $k: ;
 #for $v ( sort keys %{ $HoH{$k} } ) {
 # print $v=$HoH{$k}{$v} ;
 #}
 #print \n;
 #}

 #...@sorted = sort { $HoH{$a} cmp $HoH{$b} } keys %HoH;
 #print @sorted\n;

 #foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH{$a}-{uid} cmp $HoH{$b}-{uid} }
 keys %HoH)
 foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys %HoH)
 {
 print STDOUT $HoH{$sorted}\n
 }

 Thank in advance for any help.

 Dan


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wierd messages from mcelog

2010-04-21 Thread Neal Becker
etc/cron.hourly/mcelog.cron:

mcelog: warning: 18446744073709551600 bytes ignored in each record
mcelog: consider an update

WTF?

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Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Kevin H. Hobbs
On 04/21/2010 11:34 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
 On 4/21/10, Kevin H. Hobbs hob...@ohiou.edu wrote:
  
  Don't forget about the denyhosts package which will watch
  /var/log/secure for repeated failed login attempts and attempts for
  accounts like root and add the host to /etc/hosts.deny.
 
 
 How can I tell if I have this package denyhosts package installed in F-12??
 
 TIA
 
 Marvin
 

Type

  rpm -q denyhosts

in a terminal.




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Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script

2010-04-21 Thread Dan Track
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au wrote:
 On 22 April 2010 01:26, Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 04:12:06PM +0100, Dan Track wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:21:30AM +0100, Dan Track wrote:
  hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the
  hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone
  [snip]
  foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys 
  %HoH)
 
  cmp is a string comparison. You probably want to sort numerically on the
  uid. So replace 'cmp' with '='

 foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH{$a}-{uid} = $HoH{$b}-{uid} } keys 
 %HoH)
 {
 print STDOUT $HoH{$sorted}\n
 }

 and all I get out is:

 perl sort.pl
 HASH(0x89de3d0)
 HASH(0x8a05d40)
 [snip]

 $HoH{$sorted} is a reference to a hash. $HoH{$a}{uid} (or in
 long hand $HoH{$a}-{uid}) should print out the uid numbers.

 That should be $HoH{$sorted}{uid}

 --
Fantastic, you're a star :)

One last point how can I print all the associated deatils attached to
that uid i.e username, home dir etc and then cycle through for every
uid and print the same information for each respective uid? The uid's
need to be in order i.e something like

uid: 0, username: root etc...
uid 50, username: mysql etc...


Many many thanks
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Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script

2010-04-21 Thread Jake Peavy
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Dan Track dan.tr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,


Hey


 I appreciate that this is off-topic and wholly understand if I don't
 get an answer, although one would really appreciate it if I do get an
 answer :)


Can you please mark as OT in the subject next time?  That way anyone not
interested in non-Fedora specific questions can easily filter off topic
subjects out.

Basically to improve my perl scripting, I've given myself a challenge
 where I would like to order the users in the passwd file by uid, I
 could do this in another language but I'm focused on improving my perl
 scripting. The script I've written so far is below, I've managed to
 figure out hashes and have read in the file and created a hash of
 hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the
 hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone
 please help me to finish this off? I'm trying to avoid using perl
 modules as I want to improve my scripting ability.


sure, I'll provide some tips.


 #!/usr/bin/perl -w


-w is deprecated.  use warnings; instead


 use strict;


very good.  always use strict;


   my ( $login, $p, $uid, $gid, $gecos, $dir, $s );
   my $k;
   my $v;
   my $key;
   my $ip;
   my $value;
   my @sorted=();

 my @uid=();


this is a common error for ex-C/Java programmers, however in Perl there's no
need to predefine variables.  In fact, variables should be defined only in
their smallest possible scope.  This happens naturally if you define them as
you use them.


 my %HoH = ();


this is an ok name for learning, but in real scripts use a name that
describes the contents, rather than the structure.

my $file='/etc/passwd';

 open( PASSWD,  $file ) or die Can't open $file : $!;


new method is 3-argument open, with lexically scoped filehandle:
open( my $passwd, '', $file ) or die Can't open '$file': $!;


  while( PASSWD ) {


this reads from the filehandle until eof, putting the results in $_.  It is
convenient to use $_, but it is usually advisable to create a new lexically
scoped variable.

while( my $line = $passwd ) {


( $login, $p, $uid, $gid, $gecos, $dir, $s ) = split( ':' );


if these hadn't been pre-defined, this line would read as follows and would
keep $login, $p, etc scoped to this while block

my ($login,$p,$uid,$gid,$gecos,$dir,$s) = split ':', $line;



$HoH{ $login }{ 'login' } = $login;
$HoH{ $login }{ 'p' } = $p;
$HoH{ $login }{ 'uid' } = $uid;
$HoH{ $login }{ 'gid' } = $gid;
$HoH{ $login }{ 'gecos' } = $gecos;
$HoH{ $login }{ 'dir' } = $dir;
$HoH{ $login }{ 's' } = $s;
#print $login\n;
}


This structure works well if you wanted to look up the characteristics of a
given $login as hash access is great for lookups.  but if you wanted to just
reorder all of them, maybe an array of hashes would be better?  just a
thought.


close PASSWD;

 #while (($k,$v) = each %HoH) {
 #   print While Loop: $k\n;
 #}

 #foreach $ip (keys %HoH) {
 #   print First For:  $ip\n;
 #while (($key, $value) = each %{ $HoH{$ip} } ) {
 #print $key = $value \n;
 #}
 #   print \n;
 #}

 #while ( ($k, $v) = each %HoH ) {
 #print $k: \n;
 #while ( ($key, $value) = each %$v ) {
 #print $key=$value ;
 #}
 #print \n;
 #}

 #for $k ( sort keys %HoH ) {
 #print $k: ;
 #for $v ( sort keys %{ $HoH{$k} } ) {
 # print $v=$HoH{$k}{$v} ;
 #}
 #print \n;
 #}

 #...@sorted = sort { $HoH{$a} cmp $HoH{$b} } keys %HoH;
 #print @sorted\n;

 #foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH{$a}-{uid} cmp $HoH{$b}-{uid} }
 keys %HoH)
 foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys
 %HoH)
 {
 print STDOUT $HoH{$sorted}\n
 }


as others have mentioned, to perform numeric comparisons use the spaceship
operator: =

now, note how many hash accesses your loop performs.  each time the sort
wishes to compare two values, it must perform two nested hash lookups.  As
your Perl improves, you will learn how to make this sort more efficient -
one common method is called the Schwartzian Transform.  (No relation to
Spaceballs)


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Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script

2010-04-21 Thread Jake Peavy
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Jake Peavy djstu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Dan Track dan.tr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,


 Hey


 I appreciate that this is off-topic and wholly understand if I don't
 get an answer, although one would really appreciate it if I do get an
 answer :)


 Can you please mark as OT in the subject next time?  That way anyone not
 interested in non-Fedora specific questions can easily filter off topic
 subjects out.


LOL my bad

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Re: How to list what users are in a group

2010-04-21 Thread David Burns
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Larry Brower la...@maxqe.com wrote:


 In addition, you may wish to reference RFC 2822 which obsoletes RFC 822


 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2822.html
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http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Starting_a_New_Subject
could be improved, in that few who actually understand it would
consciously violate it, but few who lack understanding would be
enlightened by reading it.

When you send in a new topic, do not start by replying to an existing
message, but rather, start a new message to
users@lists.fedoraproject.org. This keeps messages organized by
thread, for people who like to use threads (on high-volume mailing
lists like this one, threads can be a great convenience). 

maybe should be...

When you send in a new topic, do not start by replying to an existing
message, but rather, start a new message to
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Threads help many readers deal with the high volume of email flowing
through lists like this one. Your cooperation allows your fellow
readers to appreciate your contribution without technical hiccups. 

It's a bit long-winded. Hmmm.
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Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

g gel...@bellsouth.net writes:
 Steve Blackwell wrote:
 snip
 so it appears that someone was trying to break in to my machine.

 do you have 'ping reply' enabled on your cable modem?

 if so, i would suggest that you disable it so you are not visible.

 hth.

One should really point out that some icmp messages are vital to the
correct operation of the network?  Many newbies seem to end up filtering
out icmp-must-fragment in their zeal to stop all those evil icmp
messages.  That messes up mtu-discovery and ends up causing some
destinations to effectively be unreachable for large packets.

The core problem is to prevent someone from guessing users' passwords.
You aren't going to achieve real security by hiding this or that
attribute.  If you don't want to worry about your users chosing bad
non-random passwords, don't let them.  Force them to use a 1k-2k RSA key
for ssh and turn off all login types in sshd_config other than RSA2.
That way any attacker has to correctly guess a 1k-bit computer generated
number.  That will almost certainly be much more secure than any
password users will chose.  Then you can look at the ssh log files and
laugh.  The universe isn't going to last long enough for them to guess
even a small fraction of the keys.

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Re: [OT] Deafening silence

2010-04-21 Thread Wayne Feick
I've finally given up on Evolution and moved back to Thunderbird.

I really wanted Evolution to be a good mail and calendar client, but for 
the last 5 years or so it's always been *almost* there. It was 
calendaring and Palm sync that kept me on it for a long time, and the 
promise that proper Exchange connectivity was coming.

Using an LDAP server consistently causes lockups. The whole UI freezes 
up for extended periods of time. God knows what they're doing, but 
apparently they never learned to separate blocking operations like 
network communication from the UI thread. It often ends up occupying 
2.5G of resident memory which I can only assume is a memory leak since 
it grows over time.

I've reported bugs over the years, and they seem to fall on deaf ears. 
When they do manage to fix something, invariably something else breaks.

Now that I've moved to a Droid, I've switched over to Google's calendar 
and I'm not looking back.

Wayne.



On 03/22/2010 01:56 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Craig White wrote:

 On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 15:26 -0800, Russell Miller wrote:
  
 On Saturday 13 March 2010 02:58:48 pm Craig White wrote:

  
 The users and bug reports are, by and large, irrelevant.  Mine certainly 
 have
 been.  As I said, sometimes I did not give enough info, but it also really
 didn't *matter*.

 
 would like to relate something very funny about bug reporting.

 I reported a bug to Ximian (gnome-evolution) more than 5 years ago and
 it just got picked up today...

 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271193

 Of course I had completely forgotten about this bug report I made and in
 the spirit of better late than never, I suppose I am glad.

 Bug reports are not always irrelevant but sometimes it seems that way.

  
 Seamonkey 2.0.1 fixed a bug I reported in about 1995 or so. Unlike the Linux
 kernel there's no easy way to put patches out, so fixing a bug becomes a
 lifetime job.



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Re: [OT] Deafening silence

2010-04-21 Thread Michael Miles
On 04/21/2010 12:22 PM, Wayne Feick wrote:
 I've finally given up on Evolution and moved back to Thunderbird.

 I really wanted Evolution to be a good mail and calendar client, but for
 the last 5 years or so it's always been *almost* there. It was
 calendaring and Palm sync that kept me on it for a long time, and the
 promise that proper Exchange connectivity was coming.

 Using an LDAP server consistently causes lockups. The whole UI freezes
 up for extended periods of time. God knows what they're doing, but
 apparently they never learned to separate blocking operations like
 network communication from the UI thread. It often ends up occupying
 2.5G of resident memory which I can only assume is a memory leak since
 it grows over time.

 I've reported bugs over the years, and they seem to fall on deaf ears.
 When they do manage to fix something, invariably something else breaks.

 Now that I've moved to a Droid, I've switched over to Google's calendar
 and I'm not looking back.

 Wayne.



 On 03/22/2010 01:56 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

 Craig White wrote:

  
 On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 15:26 -0800, Russell Miller wrote:


 On Saturday 13 March 2010 02:58:48 pm Craig White wrote:

  


 The users and bug reports are, by and large, irrelevant.  Mine certainly 
 have
 been.  As I said, sometimes I did not give enough info, but it also really
 didn't *matter*.

  
 
 would like to relate something very funny about bug reporting.

 I reported a bug to Ximian (gnome-evolution) more than 5 years ago and
 it just got picked up today...

 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271193

 Of course I had completely forgotten about this bug report I made and in
 the spirit of better late than never, I suppose I am glad.

 Bug reports are not always irrelevant but sometimes it seems that way.



 Seamonkey 2.0.1 fixed a bug I reported in about 1995 or so. Unlike the Linux
 kernel there's no easy way to put patches out, so fixing a bug becomes a
 lifetime job.


  

I know what you mean there.
I gave up on evolution on day 2 of my Fedora install.

Thunderbird is buggy but what isn't
I have been jpilot for me palm device, seems to work well enough

Have a great day

Michael
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Re: [OT] Deafening silence

2010-04-21 Thread fred smith
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:22:15PM -0700, Wayne Feick wrote:
 I've finally given up on Evolution and moved back to Thunderbird.
 
 I really wanted Evolution to be a good mail and calendar client, but for 
 the last 5 years or so it's always been *almost* there. It was 
 calendaring and Palm sync that kept me on it for a long time, and the 
 promise that proper Exchange connectivity was coming.
 
 Using an LDAP server consistently causes lockups. The whole UI freezes 
 up for extended periods of time. God knows what they're doing, but 
 apparently they never learned to separate blocking operations like 
 network communication from the UI thread. It often ends up occupying 
 2.5G of resident memory which I can only assume is a memory leak since 
 it grows over time.
 
 I've reported bugs over the years, and they seem to fall on deaf ears. 
 When they do manage to fix something, invariably something else breaks.
 
 Now that I've moved to a Droid, I've switched over to Google's calendar 
 and I'm not looking back.
 
 Wayne.
 

Yeah, I've tried Evolution 2 or 3 times over the last few years and always
ended up being disappointed. For one thing it's DOG SLOW. It seems to want
to index all the mail folders every time it starts and that can take
MINUTES. and even when past that it's still like molasses climbing a hill
in January in northern canada.

 
 
 On 03/22/2010 01:56 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
  Craig White wrote:
 
  On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 15:26 -0800, Russell Miller wrote:
   
  On Saturday 13 March 2010 02:58:48 pm Craig White wrote:
 
   
  The users and bug reports are, by and large, irrelevant.  Mine certainly 
  have
  been.  As I said, sometimes I did not give enough info, but it also really
  didn't *matter*.
 
  
  would like to relate something very funny about bug reporting.
 
  I reported a bug to Ximian (gnome-evolution) more than 5 years ago and
  it just got picked up today...
 
  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271193
 
  Of course I had completely forgotten about this bug report I made and in
  the spirit of better late than never, I suppose I am glad.
 
  Bug reports are not always irrelevant but sometimes it seems that way.
 
   
  Seamonkey 2.0.1 fixed a bug I reported in about 1995 or so. Unlike the Linux
  kernel there's no easy way to put patches out, so fixing a bug becomes a
  lifetime job.
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] Deafening silence

2010-04-21 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Wayne Feick w...@brunz.org wrote:
 I've finally given up on Evolution and moved back to Thunderbird.

 I really wanted Evolution to be a good mail and calendar client, but for
 the last 5 years or so it's always been *almost* there. It was
 calendaring and Palm sync that kept me on it for a long time, and the
 promise that proper Exchange connectivity was coming.

 Using an LDAP server consistently causes lockups. The whole UI freezes
 up for extended periods of time. God knows what they're doing, but
 apparently they never learned to separate blocking operations like
 network communication from the UI thread. It often ends up occupying
 2.5G of resident memory which I can only assume is a memory leak since
 it grows over time.

 I've reported bugs over the years, and they seem to fall on deaf ears.
 When they do manage to fix something, invariably something else breaks.

 Now that I've moved to a Droid, I've switched over to Google's calendar
 and I'm not looking back.

Just to chime in here - I had abandoned Evo too some years ago but I
was recently trying various mail clients again to see how things have
changed. I set up Evo in F12 to deal with my work mail (Imap) and
although not particularly fast when first starting Evo it works ok -
other things that are positive too are that it handles encrypted mail
correctly (with GPG) without needing an extension like Thunderbird
does. It also connects to gmail calendars with the caldav protocol
just fine which is another feature I really wanted.

I am using Thunderbird 3.1b2 nightly and there are issues with the
enigmail extension but it also does have lightning to handle
calendars, using caldav. It also handles html mail and although some
people are very much against the use of html in email it does have its
uses particularly in business areas. Fedora runs releases that are
somewhat behind the nightlies but I do use Thunderbird -

I guess there is no ideal mail client!

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Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On 4/21/10, Ryan Pugatch r...@linux.com wrote:
 On 04/21/2010 11:34 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 How can I tell if I have this package denyhosts package installed in
 F-12??

 TIA

 Marvin

 yum info denyhosts or rpm -q denyhosts

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HI

Thanks...

It was not installed..

I went to package manager found/installed package..

Thanks

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Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Marvin Kosmal
HI

I can't find the denyhosts.cfg file...

Reading doc.. And it says it should be installed??

TIA

Marvin

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 On 4/21/10, Ryan Pugatch r...@linux.com wrote:
 On 04/21/2010 11:34 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 How can I tell if I have this package denyhosts package installed in
 F-12??

 TIA

 Marvin

 yum info denyhosts or rpm -q denyhosts

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 HI

 Thanks...

 It was not installed..

 I went to package manager found/installed package..

 Thanks

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Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Marvin Kosmal
HI

Sorry..

If found it

The FAQ is out of date..It is in /etc/denyhosts.conf...

YMMV

Marvin


On 4/21/10, Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com wrote:
 HI

 I can't find the denyhosts.cfg file...

 Reading doc.. And it says it should be installed??

 TIA

 Marvin

 On 4/21/10, Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 4/21/10, Ryan Pugatch r...@linux.com wrote:
 On 04/21/2010 11:34 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 How can I tell if I have this package denyhosts package installed in
 F-12??

 TIA

 Marvin

 yum info denyhosts or rpm -q denyhosts

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 HI

 Thanks...

 It was not installed..

 I went to package manager found/installed package..

 Thanks

 Marvin





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Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 13:17 -0700, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 HI
 
 I can't find the denyhosts.cfg file...
 
 Reading doc.. And it says it should be installed??

should be /etc/denyhosts.conf

if necessary, copy from /usr/share/doc/denyhosts-2.6/denyhosts.cfg-dist
to /etc/denyhosts.conf

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Re: [OT] Deafening silence

2010-04-21 Thread Greg Woods
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 12:22 -0700, Wayne Feick wrote:
 I've finally given up on Evolution and moved back to Thunderbird.

Please note here that I am not attempting to deny that any of the
problems you are having are real. I am just providing another data
point.

 Using an LDAP server consistently causes lockups. 

I use an LDAP server and I have never seen this happen. I have been
using Evolution as my e-mail client since it became the default in
Fedora (at least 4 or 5 releases ago I think).

I do use the Palm sync capabilities; that seems to mostly work well as
long as I only sync in one direction. As soon as I try syncing both
ways, I end up with duplicated tasks, memos, and contacts that are a
real pain to remove. I expect this happens in the lower level gpilot
software rather than in Evolution itself, but I don't know that.

I don't connect to any other calendar servers with Evolution, nor do I
have any need to connect to Exchange, nor have I ever filed a bug
against Evolution, so I cannot comment on those.

I have not noticed Evolution trying to index everything on startup, but
I have heard complaints about Thunderbird 3 doing this.

I think Evolution has definitely gotten better since I started using it.
I used to see it crash suddenly. I still have that happen but only once
in a great while now. It used to have issues with it continuing to show
me that there were messages in a folder when in fact it was empty. This
too has been largely fixed in my experience.

But in the end, it's always use whatever works for you.

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Re: EPEL clamav packages

2010-04-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:59:39 +0200
Felix Schwarz felix.schw...@oss.schwarz.eu wrote:

 Am 21.04.2010 06:33, schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
  On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:46:33 +1000
  Dan Irwinrummymob...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
  The clamav packages in EPEL are quite broken, and don't work out of
  the box. I think this has been the case for many months.
 
  Have you filed any bugs? Whats broken?
 
 There are a couple of bugs:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=clamavproduct=Fedora%20EPEL

Sure, there are bugs. 

 Some also have security impact. Basically the problem is that it is
 extremly hard to provide the ABI/config stability for clamav.
 Combined with a few questionable decisions when it came to packaging
 + a not-so-active maintainer and we have a basically orphaned package
 in EPEL.

Yeah. ;( I'll see what I can do. 

 I've spoken to a few Fedora packagers who where interested in
 maintaining the package. However the premise for them was that they
 can also decide how the Fedora package should look like - and at that
 time the current maintainer had strong feelings about this topic...

And still does I am sure. 

 If you could initiate a discussion on epel-devel, I can ping a few of
 the previously interested people...

Feel free to start discussion on that list. 

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Re: How to list what users are in a group

2010-04-21 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 15:59 +0200, Karl-Olov Serrander wrote: 
 On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, Natxo Asenjo wrote:
 
  On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:39 AM, David Bartmess dingod...@edingo.net 
  wrote:
  This is a basic linux question, but how do I find out what users are
  included in a given group?
 
  Thanks!
 
  getent group groupname should do the trick.
 
 But that doeas not show users which has groupname as the primary group.
 
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But that was not requested by the OP.
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Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 11:26 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
 g gel...@bellsouth.net writes:
  Steve Blackwell wrote:
  snip
  so it appears that someone was trying to break in to my machine.
 
  do you have 'ping reply' enabled on your cable modem?
 
  if so, i would suggest that you disable it so you are not visible.
 
  hth.
 
 One should really point out that some icmp messages are vital to the
 correct operation of the network?  Many newbies seem to end up filtering
 out icmp-must-fragment in their zeal to stop all those evil icmp
 messages.  That messes up mtu-discovery and ends up causing some
 destinations to effectively be unreachable for large packets.
 
 The core problem is to prevent someone from guessing users' passwords.
 You aren't going to achieve real security by hiding this or that
 attribute.  If you don't want to worry about your users chosing bad
 non-random passwords, don't let them.  Force them to use a 1k-2k RSA key
 for ssh and turn off all login types in sshd_config other than RSA2.
 That way any attacker has to correctly guess a 1k-bit computer generated
 number.  That will almost certainly be much more secure than any
 password users will chose.  Then you can look at the ssh log files and
 laugh.  The universe isn't going to last long enough for them to guess
 even a small fraction of the keys.

Although this is true, it doesn't stop denial-of-service attacks, while
not replying to Pings may go some way to do so by hiding the IP address
from the less sophisticated attacker. I'm just saying ...

poc

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Re: [OT] Deafening silence

2010-04-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 12:22 -0700, Wayne Feick wrote:
 Using an LDAP server consistently causes lockups. The whole UI freezes
 up for extended periods of time. God knows what they're doing, but 
 apparently they never learned to separate blocking operations like 
 network communication from the UI thread.

The Evo devels say this is caused by limitations of the underlying
Bonobo IPC model. Since Bonobo has now been replaced by D-Bus in the
newest Evo release (2.30, out now and in F13) we can hope for
improvements in these areas in the short term.

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Re: EPEL clamav packages

2010-04-21 Thread Dan Irwin
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Felix Schwarz
felix.schw...@oss.schwarz.eu wrote:

 Some also have security impact. Basically the problem is that it is extremly
 hard to provide the ABI/config stability for clamav. Combined with a few
 questionable decisions when it came to packaging + a not-so-active maintainer
 and we have a basically orphaned package in EPEL.

This poses the question, is EPEL the ideal place for clamav when it's
a constantly moving target?

Maybe fedora/epel needs something akin to the debian volatile repo for
things like clamav. (We probably already have this in conceptual terms
from rpmforge)

Regards,

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Re: [OT] Deafening silence

2010-04-21 Thread birger
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 20:38 +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
 Just to chime in here - I had abandoned Evo too some years ago but I
 was recently trying various mail clients again to see how things have
 changed.

That is how it was for me as well. I tried it years ago, and it was very
unstable with severe memory leaks so if I managed to keep it up for a
few days it would slow down my pc to a crawl.

A while back I decided to give it a new try after having been a
thunderbird enthusiast for years.

For my IMAP accounts it seems to be very stable and fast. So good that I
have actually switched to evolution on all of my systems.

For MAPI/exchange accounts it keeps getting better, but there are lots
of issues. I keep testing it whenever I have time to do a little bug
reporting, and my bugs actually keep getting picked up and worked on.

birger

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Re: EPEL clamav packages

2010-04-21 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 08:46 +1000, Dan Irwin wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Felix Schwarz
 felix.schw...@oss.schwarz.eu wrote:
 
  Some also have security impact. Basically the problem is that it is extremly
  hard to provide the ABI/config stability for clamav. Combined with a few
  questionable decisions when it came to packaging + a not-so-active 
  maintainer
  and we have a basically orphaned package in EPEL.
 
 This poses the question, is EPEL the ideal place for clamav when it's
 a constantly moving target?
 
 Maybe fedora/epel needs something akin to the debian volatile repo for
 things like clamav. (We probably already have this in conceptual terms
 from rpmforge)

I think Felix hit it on the nose but EPEL is fine but it has not been
packaged correctly nor has it been updated - it's now lagging about 2
updates behind.

I would guess that terming rpmforge as 'volatile' would depend upon who
you ask - I doubt Dag would agree. I tend to think of rpmforge as
necessary for running CentOS/RHEL servers and think of EPEL as more
'volatile'

Craig


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Re: EPEL clamav packages

2010-04-21 Thread Dan Irwin
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:

 I would guess that terming rpmforge as 'volatile' would depend upon who
 you ask - I doubt Dag would agree. I tend to think of rpmforge as
 necessary for running CentOS/RHEL servers and think of EPEL as more
 'volatile'

Sorry, I didn't actually say rpmforge is volatile. To clarify:

EPEL requires that packages have consistent configuration and abi
compatibility. This is a core requirement for inclusion into EPEL.
Given that clamav is a constantly moving target, maybe EPEL isn't the
best place for it.

We do, however, have good packages for clamav from rpmforge. Obviously
these packages are updated frequently, and don't have the
configuration and abi compatibility required for EPEL.

My comment regarding having a repo like debian volatile was to provide
a repo for RHEL/CentOS users which contains packages which don't
guarantee the required compatability. Which is basically what the
clamav packages on rpmforge provide.

Or we could let epel orphan clamav in EPEL6 and just use rpmforge...

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32bit vs 64bit in the filesystem structures

2010-04-21 Thread George R Goffe
Howdy,

I'm trying to find out if there are any dependencies within the specific 
filesystem structures that are specific to 32bit and 64bit. 

As far as I know you can mount a filesystem created on an x86_64 system on a 
x86 machine without any problems but this could just be that I have not been 
bitten yet and I'd rather avoid that if possible.

Is there a good place to go to find the answer to this question?

Regards and thanks for your time,

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Re: 32bit vs 64bit in the filesystem structures

2010-04-21 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/21/2010 04:51 PM, George R Goffe wrote:
 Howdy,

 I'm trying to find out if there are any dependencies within the specific
 filesystem structures that are specific to 32bit and 64bit.

 As far as I know you can mount a filesystem created on an x86_64 system
 on a x86 machine without any problems but this could just be that I have
 not been bitten yet and I'd rather avoid that if possible.

 Is there a good place to go to find the answer to this question?

There should be no 32- vs. 64-bit dependencies in the implementation
of the ext2 or ext3 filesystems.  You should be fine.

The most common problem in the past was the use of a 32-bit int
instead of an off_t in the lseek() calls, which limited you to a 2GB
file size, but that's an application issue.

The ext2/ext3 filesystem limits are:

Filesystem block size: 1kB2kB4kB8kB

File size limit:  16GB  256GB 2048GB 2048GB
Filesystem size limit:  2047GB 8192GB16384GB32768GB

Note that the 8kB blocksize was only available on the DEC Alpha, so
effectively the maximum filesystem size is 16TB.

There is also a limit of 32K subdirectories in a given directory and
there used to be an issue when the number of files grew above 10K
inside a directory (big slowdown...fixed with hashed directory entries).

With ext4, the 32K subdirectory limit is removed and it supports
filesystems larger than 16TB.  Not sure just how big, but BIG!  Not
sure if the e2fsutils stuff can handle filesystems 16TB yet.
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Re: Packagekit bug icon not disappearing in F11!

2010-04-21 Thread A. Racca
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 13:58 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: 
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Kelly Dunlop ke...@xyzzy.org.uk wrote:
 
  I'm running F11 and Gnome and sometimes I use yum or if I'm feeling lazy I
  just click on the PackageKit icon and let it do the updates.  Either way
  the icon goes away afterwards.  Sometimes it may take a few minutes because
  PackageKit obviously has to do the equivalent of a yum check-update to see
  what you've updated.   I know this because if do a yum from the command line
  and only update some of the packages and then try immediately to do another
  yum update there is a lock in place.
 
  I think I'd be irritated if it didn't go away because it should allow you
  to use yum in preference to the GUI.
 
 Well interestingly I set the preferences to never check for updates or
 major upgrades and to never install and yet it still does pop up so it
 must still actually check for updates - I know that I could uninstall
 gnome packagekit altogether but it is a bit disconcerting that it
 appears to still check for updates when you asked it not to!
 
 -- 
 mike c

The same happens in my Fedora 12 (Gnome), so the bug is not only for
Fedora 11.

Cheers,
G.

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