Re: Lexmark printer
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. ... There is one printer manufacturer though that as of last year has begun supporting Linux from top to bottom .. company, Lexmark has stepped up to become a Linux and open-source friendly company. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=lexmark_linuxnum=1 -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. lexmark may 'support linux' by offering linux compatible(?) drivers, but their support of 'open source' seems lacking, support of Free Software (c) is just not there. charles zeitler Love is the law, love under will. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Breakin attempts
Steve Blackwell wrote: snip so it appears that someone was trying to break in to my machine. do you have 'ping reply' enabled on your cable modem? if so, i would suggest that you disable it so you are not visible. hth. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Clamav
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote: Bugfix (by a non-Albanian): FIRST send this mail to everyone you know, and AFTER THAT delete all the files on the disk. See. Open source works! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: EPEL clamav packages
Am 21.04.2010 06:33, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:46:33 +1000 Dan Irwinrummymob...@gmail.com wrote: The clamav packages in EPEL are quite broken, and don't work out of the box. I think this has been the case for many months. Have you filed any bugs? Whats broken? There are a couple of bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=clamavproduct=Fedora%20EPEL Some also have security impact. Basically the problem is that it is extremly hard to provide the ABI/config stability for clamav. Combined with a few questionable decisions when it came to packaging + a not-so-active maintainer and we have a basically orphaned package in EPEL. I've spoken to a few Fedora packagers who where interested in maintaining the package. However the premise for them was that they can also decide how the Fedora package should look like - and at that time the current maintainer had strong feelings about this topic... If you could initiate a discussion on epel-devel, I can ping a few of the previously interested people... fs -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Lexmark printer
Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+linux at gmail.com writes: You would be happy to know on GNU/linux, they are the printer manufacturer of choice now. :) ... There is one printer manufacturer though that as of last year has begun supporting Linux from top to bottom with their entire line-up of printers. Not only are they providing CUPS drivers, but also they are even printing Tux in the corner of every box they ship right besides the Windows and Apple logos. Do you know who we are talking about? Probably not, but it's Lexmark. After months of wrangling within the company, Lexmark has stepped up to become a Linux and open-source friendly company. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=lexmark_linuxnum=1 They've provided Linux drivers for a long time, but they only maintain them as long as they're selling the corresponding printer. I have a Lexmark Z22 printer that gradually became unusable for this reason. I replaced it with a Samsung laser printer with built-in Fedora driver support. Unless Lexmark open-sources its drivers, their printers aren't worth the trouble. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
[OT] Help with Perl Script
Hi, I appreciate that this is off-topic and wholly understand if I don't get an answer, although one would really appreciate it if I do get an answer :) Basically to improve my perl scripting, I've given myself a challenge where I would like to order the users in the passwd file by uid, I could do this in another language but I'm focused on improving my perl scripting. The script I've written so far is below, I've managed to figure out hashes and have read in the file and created a hash of hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone please help me to finish this off? I'm trying to avoid using perl modules as I want to improve my scripting ability. #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; my ( $login, $p, $uid, $gid, $gecos, $dir, $s ); my $k; my $v; my $key; my $ip; my $value; my @sorted=(); my @uid=(); my %HoH = (); my $file='/etc/passwd'; open( PASSWD, $file ) or die Can't open $file : $!; while( PASSWD ) { ( $login, $p, $uid, $gid, $gecos, $dir, $s ) = split( ':' ); $HoH{ $login }{ 'login' } = $login; $HoH{ $login }{ 'p' } = $p; $HoH{ $login }{ 'uid' } = $uid; $HoH{ $login }{ 'gid' } = $gid; $HoH{ $login }{ 'gecos' } = $gecos; $HoH{ $login }{ 'dir' } = $dir; $HoH{ $login }{ 's' } = $s; #print $login\n; } close PASSWD; #while (($k,$v) = each %HoH) { # print While Loop: $k\n; #} #foreach $ip (keys %HoH) { # print First For: $ip\n; # while (($key, $value) = each %{ $HoH{$ip} } ) { # print $key = $value \n; # } # print \n; #} #while ( ($k, $v) = each %HoH ) { # print $k: \n; # while ( ($key, $value) = each %$v ) { # print $key=$value ; # } # print \n; #} #for $k ( sort keys %HoH ) { # print $k: ; # for $v ( sort keys %{ $HoH{$k} } ) { # print $v=$HoH{$k}{$v} ; # } # print \n; #} #...@sorted = sort { $HoH{$a} cmp $HoH{$b} } keys %HoH; #print @sorted\n; #foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH{$a}-{uid} cmp $HoH{$b}-{uid} } keys %HoH) foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys %HoH) { print STDOUT $HoH{$sorted}\n } Thank in advance for any help. Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Breakin attempts
On 04/21/2010 02:07 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: Of course, combining methods can work nicely. Don't forget about the denyhosts package which will watch /var/log/secure for repeated failed login attempts and attempts for accounts like root and add the host to /etc/hosts.deny. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: zoneminder AXIS mpeg4 ffmpeg-libraries
R. G. Newbury wrote: On 04/20/2010 01:10 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: Clearly there is a problem with the includes. Either avutil.h is not installed at all, or it is installed somewhere else. If it is installed, but somewhere else, you have two choices: make a symlink at ../libavutil/avutil.h pointing back to whereever the file actually is, or find the source.c file which is looking for avutil.h (using grep) and fix the include call to #include=avutil.h or /ffmpeg/avutil.h or whatever. If it is not installed something has gone very wrong! And could you please take the time to trim your posts..please? Geoff Tux says: "Be regular. Eat cron flakes." so, I make patch for rpmbuild spec, logs after rebuild: config.log: ac_cv_header_ffmpeg_libavcodec_avcodec_h=yes ac_cv_header_ffmpeg_libavformat_avformat_h=yes ac_cv_header_ffmpeg_libavutil_avutil_h=yes ac_cv_header_ffmpeg_libswscale_swscale_h=yes ac_cv_header_libavcodec_avcodec_h=yes ac_cv_header_libavformat_avformat_h=yes ac_cv_header_libavutil_avutil_h=yes ac_cv_header_libswscale_swscale_h=yes status.log D["HAVE_LIBAVUTIL_AVUTIL_H"]=" 1" D["HAVE_FFMPEG_LIBAVUTIL_AVUTIL_H"]=" 1" D["HAVE_LIBAVCODEC_AVCODEC_H"]=" 1" D["HAVE_FFMPEG_LIBAVCODEC_AVCODEC_H"]=" 1" D["HAVE_LIBAVFORMAT_AVFORMAT_H"]=" 1" D["HAVE_FFMPEG_LIBAVFORMAT_AVFORMAT_H"]=" 1" D["HAVE_LIBSWSCALE_SWSCALE_H"]=" 1" D["HAVE_FFMPEG_LIBSWSCALE_SWSCALE_H"]=" 1" but still get "You must have ffmpeg libraries installed to use remote camera protocol 'rtsp' for monitor 3" patch: diff -up configure.ac configure.ac --- configure.ac 2010-04-21 13:23:30.0 +0300 +++ configure.ac 2010-04-21 13:25:29.0 +0300 @@ -74,8 +74,8 @@ AC_ARG_WITH(ffmpeg, e.g. --with-ffmpeg=/usr/local]) ) AC_SUBST(FFMPEG_PREFIX) -FFMPEG_LIBS="-L${FFMPEG_PREFIX}/${LIB_ARCH}" -FFMPEG_CFLAGS="-I${FFMPEG_PREFIX}/include" +FFMPEG_LIBS=`pkg-config --libs libavcodec libavdevice libavfilter libavformat libavutil libpostproc libswscale` +FFMPEG_CFLAGS=`pkg-config --cflags libavcodec libavdevice libavfilter libavformat libavutil libpostproc libswscale` AC_SUBST(FFMPEG_LIBS) AC_SUBST(FFMPEG_CFLAGS) @@ -259,14 +259,13 @@ AC_CHECK_HEADERS(linux/videodev.h,,AC_MS AC_CHECK_HEADERS(linux/videodev2.h,AC_SUBST(ZM_V4L2,"1"),AC_MSG_WARN(zm requires Video4Linux2 to be installed for V4L2 support),) AC_CHECK_HEADERS(mysql/mysql.h,,AC_MSG_ERROR(zm requires MySQL headers - check that MySQL development packages are installed),) AC_CHECK_HEADERS(libavutil/avutil.h,,,) -AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/avutil.h,,,) +AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/libavutil/avutil.h,,,) AC_CHECK_HEADERS(libavcodec/avcodec.h,,,) -AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/avcodec.h,,,) +AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/libavcodec/avcodec.h,,,) AC_CHECK_HEADERS(libavformat/avformat.h,,,) -AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/avformat.h,,,) +AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/libavformat/avformat.h,,,) AC_CHECK_HEADERS(libswscale/swscale.h,,,) -AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/swscale.h,,,) -AC_CHECK_HEADERS(pcre/pcre.h,AC_SUBST(ZM_PCRE,"1"),,) +AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ffmpeg/libswscale/swscale.h,,,) AC_CHECK_HEADERS(pcre.h,AC_SUBST(ZM_PCRE,"1"),,) if test "$ENABLE_MMAP" = "yes"; then AC_CHECK_HEADERS(sys/mman.h,,,) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Packagekit bug icon not disappearing in F11!
I have machines running both F11 and F12 - in F12 if there are updates available then the PackageKit icon pops onto the (gnome) taskbar, and if I then use yum on the CLI to update the system the icon on the taskbar goes away once the updates are complete. Presumably if I allowed PackageKit to run the updates then the same would happen. (Often I update from another machine via ssh which is why yum is my preferred update method) On the other hand on my F11 machine when the updates notification pops up, if I use yum to update the system then the icon remains and does not magically disappear from the taskbar until I log out and back in again - this is with the gnome desktop. Am I alone or do other users see this also? It is not a major problem but is a slight irritation! -- mike c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:20:27 +0100, Dan Track dan.tr...@gmail.com wrote: Basically to improve my perl scripting, I've given myself a challenge where I would like to order the users in the passwd file by uid, I could do this in another language but I'm focused on improving my perl scripting. The script I've written so far is below, I've managed to figure out hashes and have read in the file and created a hash of hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone please help me to finish this off? I'm trying to avoid using perl modules as I want to improve my scripting ability. It looks like you are doing string comparisons on the uid. I think you might want to try = instead of cmp. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:21:30AM +0100, Dan Track wrote: hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone [snip] foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys %HoH) cmp is a string comparison. You probably want to sort numerically on the uid. So replace 'cmp' with '=' Perhaps that is the problem? -- Norman Gaywood, Computer Systems Officer University of New England, Armidale, NSW 2351, Australia ngayw...@une.edu.auPhone: +61 (0)2 6773 3337 http://mcs.une.edu.au/~normFax: +61 (0)2 6773 3312 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Packagekit bug icon not disappearing in F11!
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Kelly Dunlop ke...@xyzzy.org.uk wrote: I'm running F11 and Gnome and sometimes I use yum or if I'm feeling lazy I just click on the PackageKit icon and let it do the updates. Either way the icon goes away afterwards. Sometimes it may take a few minutes because PackageKit obviously has to do the equivalent of a yum check-update to see what you've updated. I know this because if do a yum from the command line and only update some of the packages and then try immediately to do another yum update there is a lock in place. I think I'd be irritated if it didn't go away because it should allow you to use yum in preference to the GUI. Well interestingly I set the preferences to never check for updates or major upgrades and to never install and yet it still does pop up so it must still actually check for updates - I know that I could uninstall gnome packagekit altogether but it is a bit disconcerting that it appears to still check for updates when you asked it not to! -- mike c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: gpk-update-viewer vs. yum
On 16 April 2010 22:35, Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com wrote: Hmmm, I'd call that a work-around, not a solution. The solution is for gpk (in fact, all GUI-based stuff) to query the NICs via something like ip link show up | egrep (eth.:|wlan.:) and see if any network link is up. Or scan /proc/net/dev (or one of the /proc/net files). That doesn't get us the connection type (GPRS dialup, WLAN, wired data) and the NM API is so much easier to use. That said, to ignore NM completely just edit /etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf and change UseNetworkManager=false Richard. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Breakin attempts
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 06:07 +, g wrote: Steve Blackwell wrote: snip so it appears that someone was trying to break in to my machine. do you have 'ping reply' enabled on your cable modem? if so, i would suggest that you disable it so you are not visible. It might help against naive attempts, but there are other ways of checking visibility. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Packagekit bug icon not disappearing in F11!
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 01:58:31PM +0100, mike cloaked wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Kelly Dunlop ke...@xyzzy.org.uk wrote: I'm running F11 and Gnome and sometimes I use yum or if I'm feeling lazy I just click on the PackageKit icon and let it do the updates. ?Either way the icon goes away afterwards. ?Sometimes it may take a few minutes because PackageKit obviously has to do the equivalent of a yum check-update to see what you've updated. ? I know this because if do a yum from the command line and only update some of the packages and then try immediately to do another yum update there is a lock in place. I think I'd be irritated if it didn't go away because it should allow you to use yum in preference to the GUI. Well interestingly I set the preferences to never check for updates or major upgrades and to never install and yet it still does pop up so it must still actually check for updates - I know that I could uninstall gnome packagekit altogether but it is a bit disconcerting that it appears to still check for updates when you asked it not to! To be honest I probably did the same thing because I'd rather update things when I want to but I'm not actually by the machine at the moment - it's at home. I'll try and see what I have it set to tonight and let you know. Kelly -- Kelly Dunlop ke...@xyzzy.org.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to list what users are in a group
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 16:39 -0600, David Bartmess wrote: This is a basic linux question, but how do I find out what users are included in a given group? Thanks! Seems to me that their userid would have to appear in the groups entry in the /etc/group file. -- === There is no time like the present for postponing what you ought to be doing. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to list what users are in a group
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:39 AM, David Bartmess dingod...@edingo.net wrote: This is a basic linux question, but how do I find out what users are included in a given group? Thanks! getent group groupname should do the trick. -- natxo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Breakin attempts
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:33:11 -0400 Steve Blackwell zep...@cfl.rr.com wrote: I was looking at my logwatch mail and saw: Failed logins from: 62.39.117.140 (140.117.39-62.rev.gaoland.net): 139 times 220.128.67.41: 9 times Illegal users from: 62.39.117.140 (140.117.39-62.rev.gaoland.net): 229 times 220.128.67.41: 2 times Received disconnect: 11: Bye Bye : 379 Time(s) so it appears that someone was trying to break in to my machine. I googled rev.gaoland.net (http://whois.domaintools.com/gaoland.net) and it appears to be some kind of French ISP. Is there some place to report this? Steve rkhunter is reporting this: -- Start Rootkit Hunter Scan -- Warning: Suspicious file types found in /dev: /dev/shm/mono-shared-500-shared_fileshare-steve.blackwell-Linux-i686-36-12-0:data /dev/shm/mono-shared-500-shared_data-steve.blackwell-Linux-i686-312-12-0:data /dev/shm/mono.2812: data process 2812 is tomboy so that should be OK. What are the other 2? Normal? OK to whitelist them? Thanks, Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to list what users are in a group
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, Natxo Asenjo wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:39 AM, David Bartmess dingod...@edingo.net wrote: This is a basic linux question, but how do I find out what users are included in a given group? Thanks! getent group groupname should do the trick. But that doeas not show users which has groupname as the primary group. Regards -- Karl-Olov Serrander m11172.abc.se -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to list what users are in a group
Once upon a time, Karl-Olov Serrander m11...@abc.se said: On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, Natxo Asenjo wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:39 AM, David Bartmess dingod...@edingo.net wrote: This is a basic linux question, but how do I find out what users are included in a given group? Thanks! getent group groupname should do the trick. But that doeas not show users which has groupname as the primary group. No, for that you have to list all users and look at the primary group field. getent passwd | grep ^[^:]*:[^:]*:[^:]*:$(getent group groupname | cut -d: -f3): Primary/aux groups in Unix are set up in a less-than-efficient way for searching. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Packagekit bug icon not disappearing in F11!
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Kelly Dunlop ke...@xyzzy.org.uk wrote: Well interestingly I set the preferences to never check for updates or major upgrades and to never install and yet it still does pop up so it must still actually check for updates - I know that I could uninstall gnome packagekit altogether but it is a bit disconcerting that it appears to still check for updates when you asked it not to! To be honest I probably did the same thing because I'd rather update things when I want to but I'm not actually by the machine at the moment - it's at home. I'll try and see what I have it set to tonight and let you know. Kelly OK - interestingly I decided to change the settings so that the update check was hourly - then at the next check the icon DID disappear as expected - but if it is set to never check for updates then it still seems to check and then never get rid of the icon after the yum update which I suspect is a bug in the F11 version! -- mike c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:21:30AM +0100, Dan Track wrote: hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone [snip] foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys %HoH) cmp is a string comparison. You probably want to sort numerically on the uid. So replace 'cmp' with '=' Perhaps that is the problem? Hi, Thanks for that, although it didn't work at least I think so. foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH{$a}-{uid} = $HoH{$b}-{uid} } keys %HoH) { print STDOUT $HoH{$sorted}\n } and all I get out is: perl sort.pl HASH(0x89de3d0) HASH(0x8a05d40) HASH(0x8a05dd0) HASH(0x8a05e60) HASH(0x8a05ef0) HASH(0x8a05f80) HASH(0x8a06010) HASH(0x8a060a0) HASH(0x8a06130) HASH(0x8a061c0) HASH(0x8a06250) HASH(0x8a062e0) HASH(0x8a06370) HASH(0x8a06400) HASH(0x8a0fd70) HASH(0x8a0fe90) HASH(0x8a101f0) HASH(0x8a10040) HASH(0x8a10790) HASH(0x8a100d0) HASH(0x8a10160) HASH(0x8a10700) HASH(0x8a10430) HASH(0x8a0ff20) HASH(0x8a10550) HASH(0x8a10310) HASH(0x8a0ffb0) HASH(0x8a103a0) HASH(0x8a0fe00) HASH(0x8a104c0) HASH(0x8a105e0) HASH(0x8a10670) HASH(0x8a10280) Any thoughts on this? Thanks Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 04:12:06PM +0100, Dan Track wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:21:30AM +0100, Dan Track wrote: hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone [snip] foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys %HoH) cmp is a string comparison. You probably want to sort numerically on the uid. So replace 'cmp' with '=' foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH{$a}-{uid} = $HoH{$b}-{uid} } keys %HoH) { print STDOUT $HoH{$sorted}\n } and all I get out is: perl sort.pl HASH(0x89de3d0) HASH(0x8a05d40) [snip] $HoH{$sorted} is a reference to a hash. $HoH{$a}{uid} (or in long hand $HoH{$a}-{uid}) should print out the uid numbers. -- Norman Gaywood, Computer Systems Officer University of New England, Armidale, NSW 2351, Australia ngayw...@une.edu.auPhone: +61 (0)2 6773 3337 http://mcs.une.edu.au/~normFax: +61 (0)2 6773 3312 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Breakin attempts
On 4/21/10, Kevin H. Hobbs hob...@ohiou.edu wrote: On 04/21/2010 02:07 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: Of course, combining methods can work nicely. Don't forget about the denyhosts package which will watch /var/log/secure for repeated failed login attempts and attempts for accounts like root and add the host to /etc/hosts.deny. How can I tell if I have this package denyhosts package installed in F-12?? TIA Marvin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Breakin attempts
On 04/21/2010 11:34 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: How can I tell if I have this package denyhosts package installed in F-12?? TIA Marvin yum info denyhosts or rpm -q denyhosts Ryan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script
On 22 April 2010 01:26, Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 04:12:06PM +0100, Dan Track wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:21:30AM +0100, Dan Track wrote: hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone [snip] foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys %HoH) cmp is a string comparison. You probably want to sort numerically on the uid. So replace 'cmp' with '=' foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH{$a}-{uid} = $HoH{$b}-{uid} } keys %HoH) { print STDOUT $HoH{$sorted}\n } and all I get out is: perl sort.pl HASH(0x89de3d0) HASH(0x8a05d40) [snip] $HoH{$sorted} is a reference to a hash. $HoH{$a}{uid} (or in long hand $HoH{$a}-{uid}) should print out the uid numbers. That should be $HoH{$sorted}{uid} -- Norman Gaywood, Computer Systems Officer University of New England, Armidale, NSW 2351, Australia ngayw...@une.edu.auPhone: +61 (0)2 6773 3337 http://mcs.une.edu.au/~normFax: +61 (0)2 6773 3312 Please avoid sending me Word or Power Point attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script
google is perl's best friend, google, 'perl sort arrays' ... good luck, jackc... On 04/21/2010 01:21 AM, Dan Track wrote: Hi, I appreciate that this is off-topic and wholly understand if I don't get an answer, although one would really appreciate it if I do get an answer :) Basically to improve my perl scripting, I've given myself a challenge where I would like to order the users in the passwd file by uid, I could do this in another language but I'm focused on improving my perl scripting. The script I've written so far is below, I've managed to figure out hashes and have read in the file and created a hash of hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone please help me to finish this off? I'm trying to avoid using perl modules as I want to improve my scripting ability. #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; my ( $login, $p, $uid, $gid, $gecos, $dir, $s ); my $k; my $v; my $key; my $ip; my $value; my @sorted=(); my @uid=(); my %HoH = (); my $file='/etc/passwd'; open( PASSWD, $file ) or die Can't open $file : $!; while(PASSWD ) { ( $login, $p, $uid, $gid, $gecos, $dir, $s ) = split( ':' ); $HoH{ $login }{ 'login' } = $login; $HoH{ $login }{ 'p' } = $p; $HoH{ $login }{ 'uid' } = $uid; $HoH{ $login }{ 'gid' } = $gid; $HoH{ $login }{ 'gecos' } = $gecos; $HoH{ $login }{ 'dir' } = $dir; $HoH{ $login }{ 's' } = $s; #print $login\n; } close PASSWD; #while (($k,$v) = each %HoH) { # print While Loop: $k\n; #} #foreach $ip (keys %HoH) { # print First For: $ip\n; #while (($key, $value) = each %{ $HoH{$ip} } ) { #print $key = $value \n; #} # print \n; #} #while ( ($k, $v) = each %HoH ) { #print $k: \n; #while ( ($key, $value) = each %$v ) { #print $key=$value ; #} #print \n; #} #for $k ( sort keys %HoH ) { #print $k: ; #for $v ( sort keys %{ $HoH{$k} } ) { # print $v=$HoH{$k}{$v} ; #} #print \n; #} #...@sorted = sort { $HoH{$a} cmp $HoH{$b} } keys %HoH; #print @sorted\n; #foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH{$a}-{uid} cmp $HoH{$b}-{uid} } keys %HoH) foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys %HoH) { print STDOUT $HoH{$sorted}\n } Thank in advance for any help. Dan -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
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Re: Breakin attempts
On 04/21/2010 11:34 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: On 4/21/10, Kevin H. Hobbs hob...@ohiou.edu wrote: Don't forget about the denyhosts package which will watch /var/log/secure for repeated failed login attempts and attempts for accounts like root and add the host to /etc/hosts.deny. How can I tell if I have this package denyhosts package installed in F-12?? TIA Marvin Type rpm -q denyhosts in a terminal. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au wrote: On 22 April 2010 01:26, Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 04:12:06PM +0100, Dan Track wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Norman Gaywood ngayw...@une.edu.au wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:21:30AM +0100, Dan Track wrote: hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone [snip] foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys %HoH) cmp is a string comparison. You probably want to sort numerically on the uid. So replace 'cmp' with '=' foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH{$a}-{uid} = $HoH{$b}-{uid} } keys %HoH) { print STDOUT $HoH{$sorted}\n } and all I get out is: perl sort.pl HASH(0x89de3d0) HASH(0x8a05d40) [snip] $HoH{$sorted} is a reference to a hash. $HoH{$a}{uid} (or in long hand $HoH{$a}-{uid}) should print out the uid numbers. That should be $HoH{$sorted}{uid} -- Fantastic, you're a star :) One last point how can I print all the associated deatils attached to that uid i.e username, home dir etc and then cycle through for every uid and print the same information for each respective uid? The uid's need to be in order i.e something like uid: 0, username: root etc... uid 50, username: mysql etc... Many many thanks Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Dan Track dan.tr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Hey I appreciate that this is off-topic and wholly understand if I don't get an answer, although one would really appreciate it if I do get an answer :) Can you please mark as OT in the subject next time? That way anyone not interested in non-Fedora specific questions can easily filter off topic subjects out. Basically to improve my perl scripting, I've given myself a challenge where I would like to order the users in the passwd file by uid, I could do this in another language but I'm focused on improving my perl scripting. The script I've written so far is below, I've managed to figure out hashes and have read in the file and created a hash of hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone please help me to finish this off? I'm trying to avoid using perl modules as I want to improve my scripting ability. sure, I'll provide some tips. #!/usr/bin/perl -w -w is deprecated. use warnings; instead use strict; very good. always use strict; my ( $login, $p, $uid, $gid, $gecos, $dir, $s ); my $k; my $v; my $key; my $ip; my $value; my @sorted=(); my @uid=(); this is a common error for ex-C/Java programmers, however in Perl there's no need to predefine variables. In fact, variables should be defined only in their smallest possible scope. This happens naturally if you define them as you use them. my %HoH = (); this is an ok name for learning, but in real scripts use a name that describes the contents, rather than the structure. my $file='/etc/passwd'; open( PASSWD, $file ) or die Can't open $file : $!; new method is 3-argument open, with lexically scoped filehandle: open( my $passwd, '', $file ) or die Can't open '$file': $!; while( PASSWD ) { this reads from the filehandle until eof, putting the results in $_. It is convenient to use $_, but it is usually advisable to create a new lexically scoped variable. while( my $line = $passwd ) { ( $login, $p, $uid, $gid, $gecos, $dir, $s ) = split( ':' ); if these hadn't been pre-defined, this line would read as follows and would keep $login, $p, etc scoped to this while block my ($login,$p,$uid,$gid,$gecos,$dir,$s) = split ':', $line; $HoH{ $login }{ 'login' } = $login; $HoH{ $login }{ 'p' } = $p; $HoH{ $login }{ 'uid' } = $uid; $HoH{ $login }{ 'gid' } = $gid; $HoH{ $login }{ 'gecos' } = $gecos; $HoH{ $login }{ 'dir' } = $dir; $HoH{ $login }{ 's' } = $s; #print $login\n; } This structure works well if you wanted to look up the characteristics of a given $login as hash access is great for lookups. but if you wanted to just reorder all of them, maybe an array of hashes would be better? just a thought. close PASSWD; #while (($k,$v) = each %HoH) { # print While Loop: $k\n; #} #foreach $ip (keys %HoH) { # print First For: $ip\n; #while (($key, $value) = each %{ $HoH{$ip} } ) { #print $key = $value \n; #} # print \n; #} #while ( ($k, $v) = each %HoH ) { #print $k: \n; #while ( ($key, $value) = each %$v ) { #print $key=$value ; #} #print \n; #} #for $k ( sort keys %HoH ) { #print $k: ; #for $v ( sort keys %{ $HoH{$k} } ) { # print $v=$HoH{$k}{$v} ; #} #print \n; #} #...@sorted = sort { $HoH{$a} cmp $HoH{$b} } keys %HoH; #print @sorted\n; #foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH{$a}-{uid} cmp $HoH{$b}-{uid} } keys %HoH) foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys %HoH) { print STDOUT $HoH{$sorted}\n } as others have mentioned, to perform numeric comparisons use the spaceship operator: = now, note how many hash accesses your loop performs. each time the sort wishes to compare two values, it must perform two nested hash lookups. As your Perl improves, you will learn how to make this sort more efficient - one common method is called the Schwartzian Transform. (No relation to Spaceballs) Thank in advance for any help.http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Hope my comments helped. Welcome to Perl. -- -jp Some folks say it was a miracle. St. Francis suddenly appeared and knocked the next pitch clean over the fence. Other folks say it was just a lucky swing. deepthoughtsbyjackhandey.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Jake Peavy djstu...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Dan Track dan.tr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Hey I appreciate that this is off-topic and wholly understand if I don't get an answer, although one would really appreciate it if I do get an answer :) Can you please mark as OT in the subject next time? That way anyone not interested in non-Fedora specific questions can easily filter off topic subjects out. LOL my bad -- -jp I bet the sparrow looks at the parrot and thinks, yes, you can talk, but LISTEN TO YOURSELF! deepthoughtsbyjackhandey.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to list what users are in a group
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Larry Brower la...@maxqe.com wrote: In addition, you may wish to reference RFC 2822 which obsoletes RFC 822 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2822.html -- Yes, that is clear. Okay, humble pie, yum yum, urp. I still think http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Starting_a_New_Subject could be improved, in that few who actually understand it would consciously violate it, but few who lack understanding would be enlightened by reading it. When you send in a new topic, do not start by replying to an existing message, but rather, start a new message to users@lists.fedoraproject.org. This keeps messages organized by thread, for people who like to use threads (on high-volume mailing lists like this one, threads can be a great convenience). maybe should be... When you send in a new topic, do not start by replying to an existing message, but rather, start a new message to 'users@lists.fedoraproject.org'. The 'reply' feature adds headers to an email that will identify it as being part of the same thread as the email to which it is replying, and that will cause confusion. A new topic should have not only a new subject but begin a new thread. Threads help many readers deal with the high volume of email flowing through lists like this one. Your cooperation allows your fellow readers to appreciate your contribution without technical hiccups. It's a bit long-winded. Hmmm. Dave -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Breakin attempts
g gel...@bellsouth.net writes: Steve Blackwell wrote: snip so it appears that someone was trying to break in to my machine. do you have 'ping reply' enabled on your cable modem? if so, i would suggest that you disable it so you are not visible. hth. One should really point out that some icmp messages are vital to the correct operation of the network? Many newbies seem to end up filtering out icmp-must-fragment in their zeal to stop all those evil icmp messages. That messes up mtu-discovery and ends up causing some destinations to effectively be unreachable for large packets. The core problem is to prevent someone from guessing users' passwords. You aren't going to achieve real security by hiding this or that attribute. If you don't want to worry about your users chosing bad non-random passwords, don't let them. Force them to use a 1k-2k RSA key for ssh and turn off all login types in sshd_config other than RSA2. That way any attacker has to correctly guess a 1k-bit computer generated number. That will almost certainly be much more secure than any password users will chose. Then you can look at the ssh log files and laugh. The universe isn't going to last long enough for them to guess even a small fraction of the keys. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Deafening silence
I've finally given up on Evolution and moved back to Thunderbird. I really wanted Evolution to be a good mail and calendar client, but for the last 5 years or so it's always been *almost* there. It was calendaring and Palm sync that kept me on it for a long time, and the promise that proper Exchange connectivity was coming. Using an LDAP server consistently causes lockups. The whole UI freezes up for extended periods of time. God knows what they're doing, but apparently they never learned to separate blocking operations like network communication from the UI thread. It often ends up occupying 2.5G of resident memory which I can only assume is a memory leak since it grows over time. I've reported bugs over the years, and they seem to fall on deaf ears. When they do manage to fix something, invariably something else breaks. Now that I've moved to a Droid, I've switched over to Google's calendar and I'm not looking back. Wayne. On 03/22/2010 01:56 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 15:26 -0800, Russell Miller wrote: On Saturday 13 March 2010 02:58:48 pm Craig White wrote: The users and bug reports are, by and large, irrelevant. Mine certainly have been. As I said, sometimes I did not give enough info, but it also really didn't *matter*. would like to relate something very funny about bug reporting. I reported a bug to Ximian (gnome-evolution) more than 5 years ago and it just got picked up today... https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271193 Of course I had completely forgotten about this bug report I made and in the spirit of better late than never, I suppose I am glad. Bug reports are not always irrelevant but sometimes it seems that way. Seamonkey 2.0.1 fixed a bug I reported in about 1995 or so. Unlike the Linux kernel there's no easy way to put patches out, so fixing a bug becomes a lifetime job. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Deafening silence
On 04/21/2010 12:22 PM, Wayne Feick wrote: I've finally given up on Evolution and moved back to Thunderbird. I really wanted Evolution to be a good mail and calendar client, but for the last 5 years or so it's always been *almost* there. It was calendaring and Palm sync that kept me on it for a long time, and the promise that proper Exchange connectivity was coming. Using an LDAP server consistently causes lockups. The whole UI freezes up for extended periods of time. God knows what they're doing, but apparently they never learned to separate blocking operations like network communication from the UI thread. It often ends up occupying 2.5G of resident memory which I can only assume is a memory leak since it grows over time. I've reported bugs over the years, and they seem to fall on deaf ears. When they do manage to fix something, invariably something else breaks. Now that I've moved to a Droid, I've switched over to Google's calendar and I'm not looking back. Wayne. On 03/22/2010 01:56 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 15:26 -0800, Russell Miller wrote: On Saturday 13 March 2010 02:58:48 pm Craig White wrote: The users and bug reports are, by and large, irrelevant. Mine certainly have been. As I said, sometimes I did not give enough info, but it also really didn't *matter*. would like to relate something very funny about bug reporting. I reported a bug to Ximian (gnome-evolution) more than 5 years ago and it just got picked up today... https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271193 Of course I had completely forgotten about this bug report I made and in the spirit of better late than never, I suppose I am glad. Bug reports are not always irrelevant but sometimes it seems that way. Seamonkey 2.0.1 fixed a bug I reported in about 1995 or so. Unlike the Linux kernel there's no easy way to put patches out, so fixing a bug becomes a lifetime job. I know what you mean there. I gave up on evolution on day 2 of my Fedora install. Thunderbird is buggy but what isn't I have been jpilot for me palm device, seems to work well enough Have a great day Michael -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Deafening silence
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:22:15PM -0700, Wayne Feick wrote: I've finally given up on Evolution and moved back to Thunderbird. I really wanted Evolution to be a good mail and calendar client, but for the last 5 years or so it's always been *almost* there. It was calendaring and Palm sync that kept me on it for a long time, and the promise that proper Exchange connectivity was coming. Using an LDAP server consistently causes lockups. The whole UI freezes up for extended periods of time. God knows what they're doing, but apparently they never learned to separate blocking operations like network communication from the UI thread. It often ends up occupying 2.5G of resident memory which I can only assume is a memory leak since it grows over time. I've reported bugs over the years, and they seem to fall on deaf ears. When they do manage to fix something, invariably something else breaks. Now that I've moved to a Droid, I've switched over to Google's calendar and I'm not looking back. Wayne. Yeah, I've tried Evolution 2 or 3 times over the last few years and always ended up being disappointed. For one thing it's DOG SLOW. It seems to want to index all the mail folders every time it starts and that can take MINUTES. and even when past that it's still like molasses climbing a hill in January in northern canada. On 03/22/2010 01:56 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 15:26 -0800, Russell Miller wrote: On Saturday 13 March 2010 02:58:48 pm Craig White wrote: The users and bug reports are, by and large, irrelevant. Mine certainly have been. As I said, sometimes I did not give enough info, but it also really didn't *matter*. would like to relate something very funny about bug reporting. I reported a bug to Ximian (gnome-evolution) more than 5 years ago and it just got picked up today... https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271193 Of course I had completely forgotten about this bug report I made and in the spirit of better late than never, I suppose I am glad. Bug reports are not always irrelevant but sometimes it seems that way. Seamonkey 2.0.1 fixed a bug I reported in about 1995 or so. Unlike the Linux kernel there's no easy way to put patches out, so fixing a bug becomes a lifetime job. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. --- Romans 5:8 (niv) -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Deafening silence
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Wayne Feick w...@brunz.org wrote: I've finally given up on Evolution and moved back to Thunderbird. I really wanted Evolution to be a good mail and calendar client, but for the last 5 years or so it's always been *almost* there. It was calendaring and Palm sync that kept me on it for a long time, and the promise that proper Exchange connectivity was coming. Using an LDAP server consistently causes lockups. The whole UI freezes up for extended periods of time. God knows what they're doing, but apparently they never learned to separate blocking operations like network communication from the UI thread. It often ends up occupying 2.5G of resident memory which I can only assume is a memory leak since it grows over time. I've reported bugs over the years, and they seem to fall on deaf ears. When they do manage to fix something, invariably something else breaks. Now that I've moved to a Droid, I've switched over to Google's calendar and I'm not looking back. Just to chime in here - I had abandoned Evo too some years ago but I was recently trying various mail clients again to see how things have changed. I set up Evo in F12 to deal with my work mail (Imap) and although not particularly fast when first starting Evo it works ok - other things that are positive too are that it handles encrypted mail correctly (with GPG) without needing an extension like Thunderbird does. It also connects to gmail calendars with the caldav protocol just fine which is another feature I really wanted. I am using Thunderbird 3.1b2 nightly and there are issues with the enigmail extension but it also does have lightning to handle calendars, using caldav. It also handles html mail and although some people are very much against the use of html in email it does have its uses particularly in business areas. Fedora runs releases that are somewhat behind the nightlies but I do use Thunderbird - I guess there is no ideal mail client! -- mike c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Breakin attempts
On 4/21/10, Ryan Pugatch r...@linux.com wrote: On 04/21/2010 11:34 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: How can I tell if I have this package denyhosts package installed in F-12?? TIA Marvin yum info denyhosts or rpm -q denyhosts Ryan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines HI Thanks... It was not installed.. I went to package manager found/installed package.. Thanks Marvin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Breakin attempts
HI I can't find the denyhosts.cfg file... Reading doc.. And it says it should be installed?? TIA Marvin On 4/21/10, Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/21/10, Ryan Pugatch r...@linux.com wrote: On 04/21/2010 11:34 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: How can I tell if I have this package denyhosts package installed in F-12?? TIA Marvin yum info denyhosts or rpm -q denyhosts Ryan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines HI Thanks... It was not installed.. I went to package manager found/installed package.. Thanks Marvin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Breakin attempts
HI Sorry.. If found it The FAQ is out of date..It is in /etc/denyhosts.conf... YMMV Marvin On 4/21/10, Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com wrote: HI I can't find the denyhosts.cfg file... Reading doc.. And it says it should be installed?? TIA Marvin On 4/21/10, Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/21/10, Ryan Pugatch r...@linux.com wrote: On 04/21/2010 11:34 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: How can I tell if I have this package denyhosts package installed in F-12?? TIA Marvin yum info denyhosts or rpm -q denyhosts Ryan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines HI Thanks... It was not installed.. I went to package manager found/installed package.. Thanks Marvin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Breakin attempts
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 13:17 -0700, Marvin Kosmal wrote: HI I can't find the denyhosts.cfg file... Reading doc.. And it says it should be installed?? should be /etc/denyhosts.conf if necessary, copy from /usr/share/doc/denyhosts-2.6/denyhosts.cfg-dist to /etc/denyhosts.conf Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Deafening silence
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 12:22 -0700, Wayne Feick wrote: I've finally given up on Evolution and moved back to Thunderbird. Please note here that I am not attempting to deny that any of the problems you are having are real. I am just providing another data point. Using an LDAP server consistently causes lockups. I use an LDAP server and I have never seen this happen. I have been using Evolution as my e-mail client since it became the default in Fedora (at least 4 or 5 releases ago I think). I do use the Palm sync capabilities; that seems to mostly work well as long as I only sync in one direction. As soon as I try syncing both ways, I end up with duplicated tasks, memos, and contacts that are a real pain to remove. I expect this happens in the lower level gpilot software rather than in Evolution itself, but I don't know that. I don't connect to any other calendar servers with Evolution, nor do I have any need to connect to Exchange, nor have I ever filed a bug against Evolution, so I cannot comment on those. I have not noticed Evolution trying to index everything on startup, but I have heard complaints about Thunderbird 3 doing this. I think Evolution has definitely gotten better since I started using it. I used to see it crash suddenly. I still have that happen but only once in a great while now. It used to have issues with it continuing to show me that there were messages in a folder when in fact it was empty. This too has been largely fixed in my experience. But in the end, it's always use whatever works for you. --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: EPEL clamav packages
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:59:39 +0200 Felix Schwarz felix.schw...@oss.schwarz.eu wrote: Am 21.04.2010 06:33, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:46:33 +1000 Dan Irwinrummymob...@gmail.com wrote: The clamav packages in EPEL are quite broken, and don't work out of the box. I think this has been the case for many months. Have you filed any bugs? Whats broken? There are a couple of bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=clamavproduct=Fedora%20EPEL Sure, there are bugs. Some also have security impact. Basically the problem is that it is extremly hard to provide the ABI/config stability for clamav. Combined with a few questionable decisions when it came to packaging + a not-so-active maintainer and we have a basically orphaned package in EPEL. Yeah. ;( I'll see what I can do. I've spoken to a few Fedora packagers who where interested in maintaining the package. However the premise for them was that they can also decide how the Fedora package should look like - and at that time the current maintainer had strong feelings about this topic... And still does I am sure. If you could initiate a discussion on epel-devel, I can ping a few of the previously interested people... Feel free to start discussion on that list. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to list what users are in a group
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 15:59 +0200, Karl-Olov Serrander wrote: On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, Natxo Asenjo wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:39 AM, David Bartmess dingod...@edingo.net wrote: This is a basic linux question, but how do I find out what users are included in a given group? Thanks! getent group groupname should do the trick. But that doeas not show users which has groupname as the primary group. Regards -- Karl-Olov Serrander m11172.abc.se But that was not requested by the OP. -- === A well adjusted person is one who makes the same mistake twice without getting nervous. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Breakin attempts
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 11:26 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: g gel...@bellsouth.net writes: Steve Blackwell wrote: snip so it appears that someone was trying to break in to my machine. do you have 'ping reply' enabled on your cable modem? if so, i would suggest that you disable it so you are not visible. hth. One should really point out that some icmp messages are vital to the correct operation of the network? Many newbies seem to end up filtering out icmp-must-fragment in their zeal to stop all those evil icmp messages. That messes up mtu-discovery and ends up causing some destinations to effectively be unreachable for large packets. The core problem is to prevent someone from guessing users' passwords. You aren't going to achieve real security by hiding this or that attribute. If you don't want to worry about your users chosing bad non-random passwords, don't let them. Force them to use a 1k-2k RSA key for ssh and turn off all login types in sshd_config other than RSA2. That way any attacker has to correctly guess a 1k-bit computer generated number. That will almost certainly be much more secure than any password users will chose. Then you can look at the ssh log files and laugh. The universe isn't going to last long enough for them to guess even a small fraction of the keys. Although this is true, it doesn't stop denial-of-service attacks, while not replying to Pings may go some way to do so by hiding the IP address from the less sophisticated attacker. I'm just saying ... poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Deafening silence
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 12:22 -0700, Wayne Feick wrote: Using an LDAP server consistently causes lockups. The whole UI freezes up for extended periods of time. God knows what they're doing, but apparently they never learned to separate blocking operations like network communication from the UI thread. The Evo devels say this is caused by limitations of the underlying Bonobo IPC model. Since Bonobo has now been replaced by D-Bus in the newest Evo release (2.30, out now and in F13) we can hope for improvements in these areas in the short term. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: EPEL clamav packages
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Felix Schwarz felix.schw...@oss.schwarz.eu wrote: Some also have security impact. Basically the problem is that it is extremly hard to provide the ABI/config stability for clamav. Combined with a few questionable decisions when it came to packaging + a not-so-active maintainer and we have a basically orphaned package in EPEL. This poses the question, is EPEL the ideal place for clamav when it's a constantly moving target? Maybe fedora/epel needs something akin to the debian volatile repo for things like clamav. (We probably already have this in conceptual terms from rpmforge) Regards, Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Deafening silence
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 20:38 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: Just to chime in here - I had abandoned Evo too some years ago but I was recently trying various mail clients again to see how things have changed. That is how it was for me as well. I tried it years ago, and it was very unstable with severe memory leaks so if I managed to keep it up for a few days it would slow down my pc to a crawl. A while back I decided to give it a new try after having been a thunderbird enthusiast for years. For my IMAP accounts it seems to be very stable and fast. So good that I have actually switched to evolution on all of my systems. For MAPI/exchange accounts it keeps getting better, but there are lots of issues. I keep testing it whenever I have time to do a little bug reporting, and my bugs actually keep getting picked up and worked on. birger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: EPEL clamav packages
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 08:46 +1000, Dan Irwin wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Felix Schwarz felix.schw...@oss.schwarz.eu wrote: Some also have security impact. Basically the problem is that it is extremly hard to provide the ABI/config stability for clamav. Combined with a few questionable decisions when it came to packaging + a not-so-active maintainer and we have a basically orphaned package in EPEL. This poses the question, is EPEL the ideal place for clamav when it's a constantly moving target? Maybe fedora/epel needs something akin to the debian volatile repo for things like clamav. (We probably already have this in conceptual terms from rpmforge) I think Felix hit it on the nose but EPEL is fine but it has not been packaged correctly nor has it been updated - it's now lagging about 2 updates behind. I would guess that terming rpmforge as 'volatile' would depend upon who you ask - I doubt Dag would agree. I tend to think of rpmforge as necessary for running CentOS/RHEL servers and think of EPEL as more 'volatile' Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: EPEL clamav packages
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: I would guess that terming rpmforge as 'volatile' would depend upon who you ask - I doubt Dag would agree. I tend to think of rpmforge as necessary for running CentOS/RHEL servers and think of EPEL as more 'volatile' Sorry, I didn't actually say rpmforge is volatile. To clarify: EPEL requires that packages have consistent configuration and abi compatibility. This is a core requirement for inclusion into EPEL. Given that clamav is a constantly moving target, maybe EPEL isn't the best place for it. We do, however, have good packages for clamav from rpmforge. Obviously these packages are updated frequently, and don't have the configuration and abi compatibility required for EPEL. My comment regarding having a repo like debian volatile was to provide a repo for RHEL/CentOS users which contains packages which don't guarantee the required compatability. Which is basically what the clamav packages on rpmforge provide. Or we could let epel orphan clamav in EPEL6 and just use rpmforge... Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
32bit vs 64bit in the filesystem structures
Howdy, I'm trying to find out if there are any dependencies within the specific filesystem structures that are specific to 32bit and 64bit. As far as I know you can mount a filesystem created on an x86_64 system on a x86 machine without any problems but this could just be that I have not been bitten yet and I'd rather avoid that if possible. Is there a good place to go to find the answer to this question? Regards and thanks for your time, George... It's not what you know that hurts you, It's what you know that ain't so. Wil Rogers -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: 32bit vs 64bit in the filesystem structures
On 04/21/2010 04:51 PM, George R Goffe wrote: Howdy, I'm trying to find out if there are any dependencies within the specific filesystem structures that are specific to 32bit and 64bit. As far as I know you can mount a filesystem created on an x86_64 system on a x86 machine without any problems but this could just be that I have not been bitten yet and I'd rather avoid that if possible. Is there a good place to go to find the answer to this question? There should be no 32- vs. 64-bit dependencies in the implementation of the ext2 or ext3 filesystems. You should be fine. The most common problem in the past was the use of a 32-bit int instead of an off_t in the lseek() calls, which limited you to a 2GB file size, but that's an application issue. The ext2/ext3 filesystem limits are: Filesystem block size: 1kB2kB4kB8kB File size limit: 16GB 256GB 2048GB 2048GB Filesystem size limit: 2047GB 8192GB16384GB32768GB Note that the 8kB blocksize was only available on the DEC Alpha, so effectively the maximum filesystem size is 16TB. There is also a limit of 32K subdirectories in a given directory and there used to be an issue when the number of files grew above 10K inside a directory (big slowdown...fixed with hashed directory entries). With ext4, the 32K subdirectory limit is removed and it supports filesystems larger than 16TB. Not sure just how big, but BIG! Not sure if the e2fsutils stuff can handle filesystems 16TB yet. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Jimmie crack corn and I don't care...what kind of lousy attitude - - is THAT to have, huh? -- Dennis Miller - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Packagekit bug icon not disappearing in F11!
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 13:58 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Kelly Dunlop ke...@xyzzy.org.uk wrote: I'm running F11 and Gnome and sometimes I use yum or if I'm feeling lazy I just click on the PackageKit icon and let it do the updates. Either way the icon goes away afterwards. Sometimes it may take a few minutes because PackageKit obviously has to do the equivalent of a yum check-update to see what you've updated. I know this because if do a yum from the command line and only update some of the packages and then try immediately to do another yum update there is a lock in place. I think I'd be irritated if it didn't go away because it should allow you to use yum in preference to the GUI. Well interestingly I set the preferences to never check for updates or major upgrades and to never install and yet it still does pop up so it must still actually check for updates - I know that I could uninstall gnome packagekit altogether but it is a bit disconcerting that it appears to still check for updates when you asked it not to! -- mike c The same happens in my Fedora 12 (Gnome), so the bug is not only for Fedora 11. Cheers, G. -- Germán A. Racca National Institute for Space Research (INPE) São José dos Campos - SP - Brasil http://gracca.tk - http://graccablog.tk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines