Re: yum update failure

[mike cloaked]

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote:
 Dear List,

 I noticed a problem with an update of evolution  on my laptop with
 2.6.33.4-95.fc13.i686.PAE.   I thought the problem was with evolution
 and made an entry on this list.  Kevin Fenzi aptly pointed me in the
 right direction.

 I have done the following :

 yum clean all

 rm /var/lib/rpm/__db.00*

 rpm --rebuilddb

 When I try to update an rpm yum is not pulling the recent rpm's from the
 repository.

 Any ideas?

Stale mirror perhaps?
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Re: Yumex problem - no network connection

[Thomas Taylor]

On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:27:26 -0400
Darr d...@core.com wrote:

 On Wednesday, 14 July, 2010 @01:56 zulu Thomas Taylor scribed:
 
  Where else should I look?
 
 Did you try 
 # yum update yumex
 ?
 
 FWIW, I do not recall ever seeing that message from yumex,
 even when I didn't have a connection to the network.
 
Hi Dar;
Yes, I ran yum update yumex but that didn't change the behavior.


Hi G;
 *yumex* is seeing the network connection as disabled because it is checking
 for connection thru 'gui'.

I'm not using a gui network connection but ifup method if that is what you're
saying.

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yum update failure

[JB]

Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:

 
 When I try to update an rpm yum is not pulling the recent rpm's from the
 repository.
 
Hi,
I assume it is Fedora 13.
We have to do it methodically, jumping all over places does not do it.
Please post full output (uncut):
  yum list all
  yum clean all
  yum check-update
Now take one package you believe is not beeing updated and post output (note 
the asterisks, please include them before/after package name):
  yum list *problem_package_name*
This will get us going in search for the problem.
JB





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Yumex problem - no network connection

[JB]

Thomas Taylor linxt at comcast.net writes:

 
 For some reason Yumex returns an error message saying Not connected to an
 network. Do you want to continue.  However Yum works as expected running
 updates.  
 
man yumex
yumex ... –disable-netcheck ...

Fedora/Red Hat bugs:
bugzilla.redhat.com/

JB




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Yumex problem - no network connection

[JB]

JB jurek.bajor at gmail.com writes:

 
 Thomas Taylor linxt at comcast.net writes:
 
  
  For some reason Yumex returns an error message saying Not connected to an
  network. Do you want to continue.  However Yum works as expected running
  updates.  
  
 man yumex
 yumex ... –disable-netcheck ...
 
 Fedora/Red Hat bugs:
 bugzilla.redhat.com/
 
 JB
 
Sorry, correction:
yumex --help
yumex --disable-netcheck ...
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Re: New Update has no kmod for new kernel and new nvidia driver

[mike cloaked]

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Michael Miles mmami...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 07/13/2010 06:06 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
 --- On Tue, 7/13/10, Michael Milesmmami...@gmail.com  wrote:


 Fedora 12 x86_64

 I did look this time and it seems the gods that have
 control did not
 give a kmod for the new Nvidia driver 195.36.31 for the new
 kernel
 2.6.32.16-141.
 It has a kmod there for the old kernel 2.6.32.14-127

 The metapackage is there to track in new kmod but if there
 is no kmod
 there how can it track in?

 Anyway I hope nobody just pressed update without
 checking

 That's why I update manually.  No auto-update for me.  I don't even use the 
 -y switch with yum, so I can still opt out of the update after I see the 
 download list.

 As far as the new kmod, wait a few days, then check again.  The longest I 
 had to wait one time (with F9) was a week, but most times it was a day or 
 two.  However, I don't have to wait anymore:  F12's nouveau works just fine 
 with my old GeForce 6600 card.

 B

 It just seems odd that this would be overlooked as to someone who is
 newer to Linux than myself could find themselves in trouble if they just
 updated because the system says there are updates.

It is not overlooked by the Fedora package builders - remember that
the Nvidia drivers are built by rpmfusion and not in the Fedora update
system. So they are on a third party repo and the guys at rpmfusion
will take some time to build the nvidia stuff for a new kernel once it
is released. As a previous poster mentioned - just wait a few days and
try again. In the meantime it is quite easy to boot back to the
previous kernel where you had the nvidia stuff in place - then when
the new kmod is available and installed then boot into the new kernel
with the new kmod..
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Re: Yumex problem - no network connection

[g]

Thomas Taylor wrote:
snip

 Hi G;
 *yumex* is seeing the network connection as disabled because it is
 checking for connection thru 'gui'.
 
 I'm not using a gui network connection but ifup method if that is what
 you're saying.

ok. then i understand that you are using 'ifup' via a terminal.

but, gui/X effect still applies. yumex does not use a system call to
check on network status. at least this is my conclusion from what all i
was able to find when i searched for a solution to problem.

this was at least 6 months back and i do not recall all of where i check.
other than i was using google. and it took a lot of reading to concluded
it to be an X problem.

i did not filed a bug report because i had not seen anyone else posting
about problem, so i figured it was something in my installation.

when i tried using yumex, it would always fail. it did not matter if i
used 'ifup eth0' or 'ifconfig eth0 up', yumex still failed with same
error message you gave in your first post.

when i ran just 'ifconfig' to check for connection, it showed being
connected. *but*, yumex still failed.

what i did not try was removing and reinstalling yumex and gui's for
networking.

what ever cause is, it is X related, because yum still works.

i just ran a check at yumex site;
  http://www.yum-extender.org/blog/

i ran a search for 'connection' and found something that may help.

http://www.yum-extender.org/blog/?s=connection show release of 2.9.6 and
2.9.7 have a change of;

  Added  ‘–disable-netcheck’ to bypass the network connection check and
  the  auto disable of non local repos, this can be enabled/disabled in
  the Preferences.

this may be an answer to problem.


hth.


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Re: SSH / permissions problem

[birger]

On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 16:49 +0100, Gary Stainburn wrote:

 [g...@dcomp5 ~]$ ssh -Y -C lcomp3
 g...@lcomp3's password: 
 Last login: Tue Jul 13 15:55:16 2010 from gary.ringways.co.uk
 /usr/bin/xauth:  timeout in locking authority file /home/gary/.Xauthority
 [g...@lcomp3 ~]$ kcalc
 X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
 kcalc: cannot connect to X server localhost:11.0
 [g...@lcomp3 ~]$ 

Usually, the problem is that xauth isn't installed. Here, you seem to
have xauth, but xauth is unable to lock the ~/.Xauthority file. I would
try removing that file and retrying. Removing it could affect existing X
sessions on that host, but being a virtual system I assume you are not
logged in on the console. The next ssh should then recreate the file
with only a cookie for the ssh session.

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Re: sshd Authentication refused

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 The keys work except for ssh Fedora 12 - Fedora 13. If you ssh
 Fedora 13 - Fedora 12 or ssh Fedora 12 - Fedora 12 they work. If you
 provide a password when sshing Fedora 13 - Fedora 12 it works. Just
 need to solve the issue of needing to provide a password.
 

I assume ssh Fedora 13 - Fedora 13 works.

Could you compare the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file on Fedora 12 with the
/etc/ssh/sshd_config file in Fedora 13?  Just guessing, but perhaps
there is some option in the Fedora 13 sshd_config that needs tweaking.

I looked at http://www.openssh.org/faq.html
The faq said,
3.14 - I copied my public key to authorized_keys but public-key
authentication still doesn't work.

Typically this is caused by the file permissions on $HOME, $HOME/.ssh or
$HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys being more permissive than sshd allows by
default.

In this case, it can be solved by executing the following on the server.

$ chmod go-w $HOME $HOME/.ssh
$ chmod 600 $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys $ chown `whoami`
$HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys

If this is not possible for some reason, an alternative is to set
StrictModes no in sshd_config, however this is not recommended.

I am wondering what happens if you put StrictModes no in the
Fedora 13 /etc/ssh/sshd_config file.  This would only be for a test.
They specifically said they do not recommend doing this so I wouldn't
leave this option set this way, but I'm curious what happens.

Clarification please: is it true public key authentication doesn't work,
Fedora 12 - Fedora 13?  Does password authentication work,
Fedora 12 - Fedora 13?
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Re: Yumex problem - no network connection

[Thomas Taylor]

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:16:46 + (UTC)
JB jurek.ba...@gmail.com wrote:

 JB jurek.bajor at gmail.com writes:
 
  
  Thomas Taylor linxt at comcast.net writes:
  
   
   For some reason Yumex returns an error message saying Not connected to an
   network. Do you want to continue.  However Yum works as expected running
   updates.  
   
  man yumex
  yumex ... –disable-netcheck ...
  
  Fedora/Red Hat bugs:
  bugzilla.redhat.com/
  
  JB
  
 Sorry, correction:
 yumex --help
 yumex --disable-netcheck ...
 JB
 
 
 

Thanks, JB.  I'll give that a read tomorrow.

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Re: Yumex problem - no network connection

[Thomas Taylor]

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:32:53 +
g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Thomas Taylor wrote:
 snip
 
  Hi G;
  *yumex* is seeing the network connection as disabled because it is
  checking for connection thru 'gui'.
  
  I'm not using a gui network connection but ifup method if that is what
  you're saying.
 
 ok. then i understand that you are using 'ifup' via a terminal.
 
 but, gui/X effect still applies. yumex does not use a system call to
 check on network status. at least this is my conclusion from what all i
 was able to find when i searched for a solution to problem.
 
 this was at least 6 months back and i do not recall all of where i check.
 other than i was using google. and it took a lot of reading to concluded
 it to be an X problem.
 
 i did not filed a bug report because i had not seen anyone else posting
 about problem, so i figured it was something in my installation.
 
 when i tried using yumex, it would always fail. it did not matter if i
 used 'ifup eth0' or 'ifconfig eth0 up', yumex still failed with same
 error message you gave in your first post.
 
 when i ran just 'ifconfig' to check for connection, it showed being
 connected. *but*, yumex still failed.
 
 what i did not try was removing and reinstalling yumex and gui's for
 networking.
 
 what ever cause is, it is X related, because yum still works.
 
 i just ran a check at yumex site;
   http://www.yum-extender.org/blog/
 
 i ran a search for 'connection' and found something that may help.
 
 http://www.yum-extender.org/blog/?s=connection show release of 2.9.6 and
 2.9.7 have a change of;
 
   Added  ‘–disable-netcheck’ to bypass the network connection check and
   the  auto disable of non local repos, this can be enabled/disabled in
   the Preferences.
 
 this may be an answer to problem.
 
 
 hth.
 
 

Thanks for your reply, G.  JB tipped me off to that too,  I'll check it out
tomorrow.  Time for bed, the old eyes are getting bleary.

Tom

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Re: Yumex problem - no network connection

[g]

Thomas Taylor wrote:
snip

 Thanks for your reply, G.  JB tipped me off to that too,  I'll check it out
 tomorrow.  Time for bed, the old eyes are getting bleary.

welcome.

yes, jb replied while i was writing up what i found at yumex site.

so, if you are using 2.9.6 or higher, you should be 'good to go'.

for me, it is long passed bed time, but will be 'between the sheets' after
this.


much luck.

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Re: SSH / permissions problem

[Gary Stainburn]

On Tuesday 13 July 2010 18:37:21 Phil Meyer wrote:
 When you copy over a .ssh directory, there are at least two things to
 consider:

 1. permissions.
  $ scp -rp .ssh target_host:

 2. do you really want your private key on the target system?  Probably
 all you wanted was to be able to login with ssh key authentication.  To
 do that, you should run:
 $ ssh-copy-id target_host:

 If you allow your private key to reside on other systems, then that key
 can be used against you quite easily.  If only the public key is exposed
 in authorized_keys, your account is as secure as it can be.

 Rule of thumb is: never expose a private key on a host with direct
 internet access, like a web server.  Use only one private key on your
 desktop, and use ssh-copy-id to set up public keys for any remote ssh
 access.

 If you want access to those servers from another system, like a laptop,
 generate a new private key on the laptop and use ssh-copy-id again to
 enable ssh access to the other systems.

 Good Luck!

Hi Phil,

I copied the server as I did because I want to new f13 virtual server to 
completely replace the old F8 physical server - hence the 1-for-1 copy.

None of these machines are visible to the internet either so I don't have that 
risk to worry about. Having said that, I will read further into your 
suggestions.

Gary

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Re: SSH / permissions problem

[Gary Stainburn]

On Wednesday 14 July 2010 08:32:09 birger wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 16:49 +0100, Gary Stainburn wrote:
  [g...@dcomp5 ~]$ ssh -Y -C lcomp3
  g...@lcomp3's password:
  Last login: Tue Jul 13 15:55:16 2010 from gary.ringways.co.uk
  /usr/bin/xauth:  timeout in locking authority file /home/gary/.Xauthority
  [g...@lcomp3 ~]$ kcalc
  X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
  kcalc: cannot connect to X server localhost:11.0
  [g...@lcomp3 ~]$

 Usually, the problem is that xauth isn't installed. Here, you seem to
 have xauth, but xauth is unable to lock the ~/.Xauthority file. I would
 try removing that file and retrying. Removing it could affect existing X
 sessions on that host, but being a virtual system I assume you are not
 logged in on the console. The next ssh should then recreate the file
 with only a cookie for the ssh session.

 birger

Hi Birger,

I am not logged in on the console. I have also does as you suggest but it has 
not made any difference.

I am convinced that the problem with with that user on the new server as I can 
ssh onto root on that server without problems.

I also have the problem on user ~gary irrespective of where I ssh from.

Gary

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Re: SSH / permissions problem

[Gary Stainburn]

On Tuesday 13 July 2010 20:23:05 Patrick Kobly wrote:
 Late to the party, but:

 $ ls -ld /home/gary
 $ ls -l /home/gary/.Xauthority

 post the results

 $ rm /home/gary/.Xauthority

 try again.

 Chances are a stale .Xauthority file exists that's owned by the UID of
 the gary account on the old server.  Might want to recursively chown the
 contents of the home dir if that's the case:

 # chown -R gary /home/gary

 PK

As I've said on another reply I've deleted .Xauthority file.

However, checking the new one having tried to log in a few times I have found 
that it hasn't been recreated.

The permission for the home directory is:


[r...@lcomp3 gary]# ls -ld /home/gary
drwxr-xr-x. 82 gary gary 20480 Jul 14 09:33 /home/gary

Gary

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Re: SSH / permissions problem

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2010, Gary Stainburn wrote:

 [g...@dcomp5 ~]$ ssh -Y -C lcomp3 -l root
 r...@lcomp3's password: 
 Last login: Tue Jul 13 16:04:20 2010 from gary.ringways.co.uk
 [r...@lcomp3 ~]# kcalc 
 [r...@lcomp3 ~]# logout
 [g...@dcomp5 ~]$ ssh -Y -C lcomp3
 g...@lcomp3's password: 
 Last login: Tue Jul 13 15:55:16 2010 from gary.ringways.co.uk
 /usr/bin/xauth:  timeout in locking authority file /home/gary/.Xauthority
 [g...@lcomp3 ~]$ kcalc
 X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
 kcalc: cannot connect to X server localhost:11.0
 [g...@lcomp3 ~]$ 
xauth fail to regenerate the .Xauthority file because of selinux. I seen 
this on many F12/F13.
You can test this by removing .Xauthority* files and put selinux in 
permissive mode.

My solution was to generate a custom policy file:

 xauthI.log 
type=AVC msg=audit(1275899931.248:12726): avc:  denied  { write } for  pid=2989 
comm=xauth name=.Xauthority dev=sda6 ino=652876 
scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:xauth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
tcontext=system_u:object_r:xdm_home_t:s0 tclass=file
type=AVC msg=audit(1275899931.252:12727): avc:  denied  { read } for  pid=2989 
comm=xauth name=.Xauthority dev=sda6 ino=652876 
scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:xauth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
tcontext=system_u:object_r:xdm_home_t:s0 tclass=file
type=AVC msg=audit(1275900392.342:13101): avc:  denied  { open } for  pid=3750 
comm=xauth name=.Xauthority dev=sda6 ino=652876 
scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:xauth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
tcontext=system_u:object_r:xdm_home_t:s0 tclass=file
type=AVC msg=audit(1275900612.472:13355): avc:  denied  { getattr } for  
pid=4401 comm=xauth path=/home//.Xauthority dev=sda6 ino=653013 
scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:xauth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
tcontext=system_u:object_r:xdm_home_t:s0 tclass=file
type=AVC msg=audit(1275900681.673:13378): avc:  denied  { unlink } for  
pid=4453 comm=xauth name=.Xauthority dev=sda6 ino=653013 
scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:xauth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
tcontext=system_u:object_r:xdm_home_t:s0 tclass=file


# cat xauthI.log | audit2allow -M xauthI
# semodule -i xauthI.pp 
(do not forget to re-enable selinux if required).

Also have a look in xauthI.te:
# This avc has a dontaudit rule in the current policy
So this is why you wont see an avc:  denied in /var/log/audit/audit.log.


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Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[siavash ghiasvand]

Dear All,

For some reasons I want to know what are Minimum Required RPM
Packages for installing fedora on a PC.
At installation time, we can remove all optional packages and after
removing them Fedora will install with nearly 200 packages! But, many
of these packages are not necessary, for example OpenSSH, WireLess,
etc.

Then, when I tried to remove those unwanted packages after
installation, many many dependencies appeared.

So, I have two questions:
1- What are Minimum Required RPM Packages for installing Fedora? (just
booting up the system with kernel and then, a simple command line
access)
2- How can I reach this minimal system? (As I described above those
dependencies make it impossible to remove unwanted packages after
installation and also there is no option to remove unwanted packages
before installation)

Sincerely yours,
Siavash Ghiasvand
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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[Chris Spike]

Hi,

On 07/14/2010 11:51 AM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
 2- How can I reach this minimal system? (As I described above those
 dependencies make it impossible to remove unwanted packages after
 installation and also there is no option to remove unwanted packages
 before installation)

Did you try a kickstart install with '%packages --nobase'? This gets you
189 packages (at least in rawhide).
I don't know (and seriously doubt) that you can go any lower without
substantial efforts (if you do, let me know). But if you find obviously
unnecessary dependencies, it's probably a good idea to file a bug. Maybe
you also want to take a look at http://www.owlriver.com/tips/tiny-centos/

Regards, Chris
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Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[JB]

siavash ghiasvand siavash.ghiyasvand at gmail.com writes:

 
 Dear All,
 
 For some reasons I want to know what are Minimum Required RPM
 Packages for installing fedora on a PC.
Hi,
Search Google for: fedora minimal installation kickstart
The first hit
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MinimalPlatform
will give you info about the project and a contact to the owner at Red Hat.
But read on Google results ...
JB
 




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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[Chris Kloiber]

I thought F13 has a new minimal install option that gives you ~120 or 
so packages installed. That feature seems to have made it into the RHEL6 
beta, too! (Very Cool, IMNSHO)


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On 07/14/2010 05:51 AM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:

Dear All,

For some reasons I want to know what are Minimum Required RPM
Packages for installing fedora on a PC.
At installation time, we can remove all optional packages and after
removing them Fedora will install with nearly 200 packages! But, many
of these packages are not necessary, for example OpenSSH, WireLess,
etc.

Then, when I tried to remove those unwanted packages after
installation, many many dependencies appeared.

So, I have two questions:
1- What are Minimum Required RPM Packages for installing Fedora? (just
booting up the system with kernel and then, a simple command line
access)
2- How can I reach this minimal system? (As I described above those
dependencies make it impossible to remove unwanted packages after
installation and also there is no option to remove unwanted packages
before installation)

Sincerely yours,
Siavash Ghiasvand




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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[siavash ghiasvand]

Dear Chris

 Did you try a kickstart install with '%packages --nobase'? This gets you
 189 packages (at least in rawhide).

Yes, I've tried it but unfortunately many unwanted packages like
wireless will be installed with this option.
Thanks for that link, I will check it out.





 Dear JB

 Search Google for: fedora minimal installation kickstart
 The first hit
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MinimalPlatform

I googled it before many times but all links (including the above one)
are talking about a Minimal Fedora which has near 200 packages (As is
described before this amount of packages is very much for me)




Dear Chris

 I thought F13 has a new minimal install option that gives you ~120 or so 
 packages installed. That feature seems to have made it into the
 RHEL6 beta, too! (Very Cool, IMNSHO)

Yeah, you are right about that minimal install, but with that option
exactly 180 packages will be installed! but I'm sure that near hundred
of them is not required packages.





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Issues with SanDisk Sansa 4GB Fuze MP3 Player

[Steven P. Ulrick]

Hello Everyone,
I used to have absolutely no problems with this MP3 player.  But recently I 
have 
been getting errors when I attempt to add/remove files on this player.  If it 
matters, I am running the KDE that ships with Fedora 13.  This issue started 
before the recent KDE updates.

1. tail -f /var/log/messages says the following when I plug the player in:
Jul 14 05:35:00 localhost kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device 
on 
port 1
Jul 14 05:35:02 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using 
ehci_hcd and address 6
Jul 14 05:35:03 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0781, 
idProduct=74c3
Jul 14 05:35:03 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, 
Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Jul 14 05:35:03 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: Product: SanDisk Sansa Fuze
Jul 14 05:35:03 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: Manufacturer: SanDisk
Jul 14 05:35:03 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 
7827F0147398B6A8
Jul 14 05:35:03 localhost kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
Jul 14 05:35:03 localhost kernel: scsi4 : usb-storage 1-1:1.0
Jul 14 05:35:03 localhost kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-
storage
Jul 14 05:35:03 localhost kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered.
Jul 14 05:35:08 localhost kernel: scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access SanDisk  
Sansa 
Fuze 4GB   v02. PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
Jul 14 05:35:08 localhost kernel: scsi 4:0:0:1: Direct-Access SanDisk  
Sansa 
Fuze 4GB   v02. PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
Jul 14 05:35:08 localhost kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg4 type 0
Jul 14 05:35:08 localhost kernel: sd 4:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg5 type 0
Jul 14 05:35:08 localhost kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] 7683072 512-byte logical 
blocks: (3.93 GB/3.66 GiB)
Jul 14 05:35:08 localhost kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] Write Protect is off
Jul 14 05:35:08 localhost kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] Assuming drive cache: write 
through
Jul 14 05:35:08 localhost kernel: sd 4:0:0:1: [sde] Attached SCSI removable disk
Jul 14 05:35:08 localhost kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] Assuming drive cache: write 
through
Jul 14 05:35:08 localhost kernel: sdd:
Jul 14 05:35:08 localhost kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] Assuming drive cache: write 
through
Jul 14 05:35:08 localhost kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] Attached SCSI removable disk
Jul 14 05:35:12 localhost hald: mounted /dev/sdd on behalf of uid 501

2. KDE's Device Notifier pops up when I plug the player in:
http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/SansaFuze-MountingIssue-001.png

3. Then I select Open with File Manager 
Dolphin shows the Owner of the player as steve and the Group as root

4. ls -lh /dev/sdd shows the permissions of /dev/sdd as follows:
[st...@localhost ~]$ ls -lh /dev/sdd 
brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 48 Jul 14 05:40 /dev/sdd

Also, I AM a member of the group disk

5. /etc/mtab contains the following line:
/dev/sdd /media/SANSA\040FUZE vfat 
rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=501,utf8,shortname=mixed,flush 0 0

6. I am NOT running SELinux...

OK, now the foundation is set.  On the the problem.

1. When I try to remove an audio book that I put on the player, I get the 
following error message:
http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/SansaFuze-MountingIssue-002.png

2. Next I will try to remove the files from a terminal.  Hopefully I will get 
some more useful information:
rm: cannot remove `Jane Austen/Pride  Prejudice/Pride  Prejudice - Chapter 61 
- Jane Austen.mp3': Read-only file system

That's odd, since /etc/mtab shows /dev/sdd as being rw  Also, less 
/dev/sdd shows brw-rw

3. The question will arise, Maybe this is a problem specific to the Audiobook 
you are attempting to remove.  
rm -rvf /media/SANSA\ FUZE/MUSIC/Retrospective/ outputs the following:
[st...@localhost ~]$ rm -rvf /media/SANSA\ FUZE/MUSIC/Retrospective/
rm: cannot remove `/media/SANSA FUZE/MUSIC/Retrospective/11 - See See Rider - 
The Animals.mp3': Read-only file system

Also, if I attempt to drag a file onto the player in Dolphin, the result is as 
follows:
http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/SansaFuze-MountingIssue-003.png


4. http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/SansaFuze-MountingIssue-003.png


Almost forgot: if I try to add or remove files to this player as Root, it still 
fails.  So even Root can't write to this device :)

Again, this player used to work perfectly with Fedora 13.  I have not done 
anything (knowingly) to cause the problems that I have been having with it...

If you need any more details, let me know.

Steven P. Ulrick
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Re: New Update has no kmod for new kernel and new nvidia driver

[Steven P. Ulrick]

 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Michael Miles mmami...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 07/13/2010 06:06 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
  --- On Tue, 7/13/10, Michael Milesmmami...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 
  Fedora 12 x86_64
 
  I did look this time and it seems the gods that have
  control did not
  give a kmod for the new Nvidia driver 195.36.31 for the new
  kernel
  2.6.32.16-141.
  It has a kmod there for the old kernel 2.6.32.14-127
 
  The metapackage is there to track in new kmod but if there
  is no kmod
  there how can it track in?
 
  Anyway I hope nobody just pressed update without
  checking
 
  That's why I update manually.  No auto-update for me.  I don't even use 
  the 
-y switch with yum, so I can still opt out of the update after I see the 
download list.
 
  As far as the new kmod, wait a few days, then check again.  The longest I 
had to wait one time (with F9) was a week, but most times it was a day or two. 
 However, I don't have to wait anymore:  F12's nouveau works just fine with my 
old GeForce 6600 card.
 
  B
 
  It just seems odd that this would be overlooked as to someone who is
  newer to Linux than myself could find themselves in trouble if they just
  updated because the system says there are updates.
 
 It is not overlooked by the Fedora package builders - remember that
 the Nvidia drivers are built by rpmfusion and not in the Fedora update
 system. So they are on a third party repo and the guys at rpmfusion
 will take some time to build the nvidia stuff for a new kernel once it
 is released. As a previous poster mentioned - just wait a few days and
 try again. In the meantime it is quite easy to boot back to the
 previous kernel where you had the nvidia stuff in place - then when
 the new kmod is available and installed then boot into the new kernel
 with the new kmod..

On my system I use akmods  akmods-nvidia  The way it works for me is that 
if necessary akmods rebuilds the nVidia kernel module when I reboot into a 
new 
kernel.  Some people have no luck with the akmods method.  For me, it has 
always worked perfectly.

This is on Fedora 13.

Steven P. Ulrick
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Anyone knows how to install VMware Server 2.0.2 on F13?

[Yanglong ZHU]

The VMware's script vmware-config-tools.pl asks for

What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]

I tried all other look like include directories, none worked except
/usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/include

After searching and copying the utsrelease.h file as in the following,
I got another set of error messages.

[r...@localhost xyz123]# find . -iname '*relea*'
./config/kernel.release
./generated/utsrelease.h
[r...@localhost xyz123]# cp -p generated/utsrelease.h linux/

By the way, those web sites referred to towards the end of the error
message did not have much anything. Even when I was logged in.

---
What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
/usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/include

Extracting the sources of the vmmon module.

Building the vmmon module.

Using 2.6.x kernel build system.
make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only'
make -C /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/include/..
SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/. modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64'
CC [M] /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o
In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:31:
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:78: error:
conflicting types for ‘poll_initwait’
include/linux/poll.h:70: note: previous declaration of ‘poll_initwait’ was here
In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vmware.h:38,
from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:99:
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_basic_types.h:108:7:
warning: __FreeBSD__ is not defined
In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./common/vmx86.h:32,
from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.h:29,
from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:101:
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/x86msr.h:164:1: warning:
MSR_THERM2_CTL redefined
In file included from
/usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/arch/x86/include/asm/msr.h:4,
from 
/usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/arch/x86/include/asm/processor.h:21,
from include/linux/prefetch.h:14,
from include/linux/list.h:6,
from include/linux/module.h:9,
from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/compat_module.h:27,
from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:26:
/usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/arch/x86/include/asm/msr-index.h:230:1:
warning: this is the location of the previous definition
In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vcpuset.h:103,
from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/modulecall.h:37,
from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./common/vmx86.h:33,
from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.h:29,
from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:101:
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:329:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:333:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:401:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:407:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:460:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:506:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:551:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:595:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:640:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:684:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:729:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:773:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:775:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:816:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:860:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:862:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:903:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:945:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:947:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:986:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:1028:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:1030:7: warning:
_MSC_VER is not defined
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:1069:7: warning:

Re: Anyone knows how to install VMware Server 2.0.2 on F13?

[Itamar Reis Peixoto]

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Yanglong ZHU yanglong@gmail.com wrote:
 The VMware's script vmware-config-tools.pl asks for

 What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your 
 running
 kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]

 I tried all other look like include directories, none worked except
 /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/include

 After searching and copying the utsrelease.h file as in the following,
 I got another set of error messages.

 [r...@localhost xyz123]# find . -iname '*relea*'
 ./config/kernel.release
 ./generated/utsrelease.h
 [r...@localhost xyz123]# cp -p generated/utsrelease.h linux/

 By the way, those web sites referred to towards the end of the error
 message did not have much anything. Even when I was logged in.

 ---
 What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your 
 running
 kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
 /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/include

 Extracting the sources of the vmmon module.

 Building the vmmon module.

 Using 2.6.x kernel build system.
 make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only'
 make -C /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/include/..
 SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/. modules
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64'
 CC [M] /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o
 In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:31:
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:78: error:
 conflicting types for ‘poll_initwait’
 include/linux/poll.h:70: note: previous declaration of ‘poll_initwait’ was 
 here
 In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vmware.h:38,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:99:
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_basic_types.h:108:7:
 warning: __FreeBSD__ is not defined
 In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./common/vmx86.h:32,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.h:29,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:101:
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/x86msr.h:164:1: warning:
 MSR_THERM2_CTL redefined
 In file included from
 /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/arch/x86/include/asm/msr.h:4,
 from 
 /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/arch/x86/include/asm/processor.h:21,
 from include/linux/prefetch.h:14,
 from include/linux/list.h:6,
 from include/linux/module.h:9,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/compat_module.h:27,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:26:
 /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/arch/x86/include/asm/msr-index.h:230:1:
 warning: this is the location of the previous definition
 In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vcpuset.h:103,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/modulecall.h:37,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./common/vmx86.h:33,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.h:29,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:101:
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:329:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:333:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:401:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:407:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:460:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:506:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:551:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:595:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:640:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:684:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:729:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:773:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:775:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:816:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:860:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:862:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:903:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:945:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:947:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:986:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:1028:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER 

Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[JB]

siavash ghiasvand siavash.ghiyasvand at gmail.com writes:

 
 1- What are Minimum Required RPM Packages for installing Fedora? (just
 booting up the system with kernel and then, a simple command line
 access)
Hi,
have you looked into
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo
paragraph Live image Configuration Files 
livecd-fedora-minimal.ks The base live image system (included in the
 'livecd-tools' package)
yum install livecd-tools
rpm -ql livecd-tools
cat /usr/share/doc/livecd-tools-031/livecd-fedora-minimal.ks
paragraph Example: A Barebones Live CD 
Why not create that barebone live cd and see what good, bad, and ugly went into
it ?
JB




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Re: Anyone knows how to install VMware Server 2.0.2 on F13?

[Yanglong ZHU]

I thought so too. But after many hours of trying I found only xen
paravirt worked, sort of. The speed is crawling, and there is no
screen scaling, 800X600 only.

[r...@localhost xyz123]# uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jul 6
22:32:17 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
With a cpu does not support paravirt:
CPU0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2140  @ 1.60GHz stepping 0b

If you think there is hope to get either KVM or xen to work on my
machine, then let's try it.
Thanks.

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Itamar Reis Peixoto
ita...@ispbrasil.com.br wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Yanglong ZHU yanglong@gmail.com wrote:
 The VMware's script vmware-config-tools.pl asks for

 What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your 
 running
 kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]

 I tried all other look like include directories, none worked except
 /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/include

 After searching and copying the utsrelease.h file as in the following,
 I got another set of error messages.

 [r...@localhost xyz123]# find . -iname '*relea*'
 ./config/kernel.release
 ./generated/utsrelease.h
 [r...@localhost xyz123]# cp -p generated/utsrelease.h linux/

 By the way, those web sites referred to towards the end of the error
 message did not have much anything. Even when I was logged in.

 ---
 What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your 
 running
 kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
 /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/include

 Extracting the sources of the vmmon module.

 Building the vmmon module.

 Using 2.6.x kernel build system.
 make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only'
 make -C /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/include/..
 SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/. modules
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64'
 CC [M] /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o
 In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:31:
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:78: error:
 conflicting types for ‘poll_initwait’
 include/linux/poll.h:70: note: previous declaration of ‘poll_initwait’ was 
 here
 In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vmware.h:38,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:99:
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_basic_types.h:108:7:
 warning: __FreeBSD__ is not defined
 In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./common/vmx86.h:32,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.h:29,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:101:
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/x86msr.h:164:1: warning:
 MSR_THERM2_CTL redefined
 In file included from
 /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/arch/x86/include/asm/msr.h:4,
 from 
 /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/arch/x86/include/asm/processor.h:21,
 from include/linux/prefetch.h:14,
 from include/linux/list.h:6,
 from include/linux/module.h:9,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/compat_module.h:27,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:26:
 /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/arch/x86/include/asm/msr-index.h:230:1:
 warning: this is the location of the previous definition
 In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vcpuset.h:103,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/modulecall.h:37,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./common/vmx86.h:33,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.h:29,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:101:
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:329:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:333:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:401:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:407:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:460:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:506:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:551:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:595:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:640:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:684:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:729:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:773:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:775:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:816:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 

Re: SSH / permissions problem

[Doron Bar Zeev]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 18:49, Gary Stainburn gary.stainb...@ringways.co.uk
 wrote:


 If I ssh to root on the new server everything is fine, but if I ssh to my
 user
 I get errors and X forwarding doesn't work.

 Can anyone suggest things for me to look at / try.

 Gary

 [g...@dcomp5 ~]$ ssh -Y -C lcomp3 -l root
 r...@lcomp3's password:
 Last login: Tue Jul 13 16:04:20 2010 from gary.ringways.co.uk
 [r...@lcomp3 ~]# kcalc
 [r...@lcomp3 ~]# logout
 [g...@dcomp5 ~]$ ssh -Y -C lcomp3
 g...@lcomp3's password:
 Last login: Tue Jul 13 15:55:16 2010 from gary.ringways.co.uk
 /usr/bin/xauth:  timeout in locking authority file /home/gary/.Xauthority
 [g...@lcomp3 ~]$ kcalc
 X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
 kcalc: cannot connect to X server localhost:11.0
 [g...@lcomp3 ~]$

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try to ssh with -X instead of -Y

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Re: SSH / permissions problem

[Daniel J Walsh]

On 07/14/2010 05:23 AM, Gabriel VLASIU wrote:
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 On Tue, 13 Jul 2010, Gary Stainburn wrote:
 
 [g...@dcomp5 ~]$ ssh -Y -C lcomp3 -l root
 r...@lcomp3's password: 
 Last login: Tue Jul 13 16:04:20 2010 from gary.ringways.co.uk
 [r...@lcomp3 ~]# kcalc 
 [r...@lcomp3 ~]# logout
 [g...@dcomp5 ~]$ ssh -Y -C lcomp3
 g...@lcomp3's password: 
 Last login: Tue Jul 13 15:55:16 2010 from gary.ringways.co.uk
 /usr/bin/xauth:  timeout in locking authority file /home/gary/.Xauthority
 [g...@lcomp3 ~]$ kcalc
 X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
 kcalc: cannot connect to X server localhost:11.0
 [g...@lcomp3 ~]$ 
 xauth fail to regenerate the .Xauthority file because of selinux. I seen 
 this on many F12/F13.
 You can test this by removing .Xauthority* files and put selinux in 
 permissive mode.
 
 My solution was to generate a custom policy file:
 
 xauthI.log 
 type=AVC msg=audit(1275899931.248:12726): avc:  denied  { write } for  
 pid=2989 comm=xauth name=.Xauthority dev=sda6 ino=652876 
 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:xauth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
 tcontext=system_u:object_r:xdm_home_t:s0 tclass=file
 type=AVC msg=audit(1275899931.252:12727): avc:  denied  { read } for  
 pid=2989 comm=xauth name=.Xauthority dev=sda6 ino=652876 
 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:xauth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
 tcontext=system_u:object_r:xdm_home_t:s0 tclass=file
 type=AVC msg=audit(1275900392.342:13101): avc:  denied  { open } for  
 pid=3750 comm=xauth name=.Xauthority dev=sda6 ino=652876 
 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:xauth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
 tcontext=system_u:object_r:xdm_home_t:s0 tclass=file
 type=AVC msg=audit(1275900612.472:13355): avc:  denied  { getattr } for  
 pid=4401 comm=xauth path=/home//.Xauthority dev=sda6 ino=653013 
 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:xauth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
 tcontext=system_u:object_r:xdm_home_t:s0 tclass=file
 type=AVC msg=audit(1275900681.673:13378): avc:  denied  { unlink } for  
 pid=4453 comm=xauth name=.Xauthority dev=sda6 ino=653013 
 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:xauth_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
 tcontext=system_u:object_r:xdm_home_t:s0 tclass=file
 
 
 # cat xauthI.log | audit2allow -M xauthI
 # semodule -i xauthI.pp 
 (do not forget to re-enable selinux if required).
 
 Also have a look in xauthI.te:
   # This avc has a dontaudit rule in the current policy
 So this is why you wont see an avc:  denied in /var/log/audit/audit.log.
 
 
 Gabriel
 
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Are you using kdm to log in?  gdm does not create the .Xauthority file.
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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[siavash ghiasvand]

Dear JB

 have you looked into
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo
 Why not create that barebone live cd and see what good, bad, and ugly went 
 into
 it ?

Thanks, I will take a look at it now, may be it could help me.
But you know, the problem is Official Fedora Release assumes some
packages as Essential Packages which are not essential for me!
Look at this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MinimalPlatform/PackageList

Any other suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
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Re: SSH / permissions problem

[Gabriel VLASIU]

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On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Daniel J Walsh wrote:

 Are you using kdm to log in?  gdm does not create the .Xauthority file.
Yes (if your question is for me).

 gdm does not create the .Xauthority file.
I try to stay far far away from anything close to gnome.


Gabriel

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Re: Anyone knows how to install VMware Server 2.0.2 on F13?

[Frank Murphy]

On 14/07/10 12:55, Yanglong ZHU wrote:


 If you think there is hope to get either KVM or xen to work on my
 machine, then let's try it.
 Thanks.



egrep '(vmx|svm)' --color=always /proc/cpuinfo
If you get vmx or svm you can run kvm.

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Re: SSH / permissions problem

[Daniel J Walsh]

On 07/14/2010 09:11 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote:
 On Wednesday 14 July 2010 10:23:58 Gabriel VLASIU wrote:
 xauth fail to regenerate the .Xauthority file because of selinux. I seen
 this on many F12/F13.
 You can test this by removing .Xauthority* files and put selinux in
 permissive mode.

 
 Spot on.  I put SELinux into permissive mode and it fixed the problem.
 
 
If you delete the ~/.Xauthority file does it work in enforcing mode?
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Re: Anyone knows how to install VMware Server 2.0.2 on F13?

[Yanglong ZHU]

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Athmane Madjoudj athma...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 07/14/2010 12:40 PM, Yanglong ZHU wrote:
 The VMware's script vmware-config-tools.pl asks for

...

 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only'
 Unable to build the vmmon module.

 For more information on how to troubleshoot module-related problems, please
 visit our Web site at http://www.vmware.com/go/unsup-linux-products; and
 http://www.vmware.com/go/unsup-linux-tools;.

 Execution aborted.

 [r...@localhost xyz123]#


 It's recommended to use KVM is your system support Hardware virtualization
 otherwise try to use VMPlayer 3.1 which is known to work with F13 (i use
 it) or if you insist on VMware server 2.0 then RHEL/CentOS are better
 Host OS, F13 has a new kernel, VMware server kernel modules are not
 supported with new kernel.


Thank you Athmane Madjoudj. I will try VMPlayer 3.1.

To the other responders.
KVM runs on my machine, but the issue is that there is no way to boot
XP after the initial copying stage. That is, the XP installation could
not complete. Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2140 does not support
hardware virtualization.


 Regards.

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Re: Preupgrade F11 --- F12 ?

[Steve Blackwell]

On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:49:26 -0700
Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote:

 Quoting Peter Diercks di-lis...@jls-hh.de:
 
  Hello List,
 
  I am running a server under F11. It is a remote machine which I
  have no physical access to. It has a network connection. I wanted
  to upgrade to F12 using preupgrade again, but this time I am afraid
  I'll run into problems due to the size of /boot (194M, 153M free
  space).
 
  Does anybody know if this issue has been fixed?
 
  Greetings,
 
  Peter
 
 I just upgraded F11 top F12 using preupgrade and had a too-small  
 /boot, it doesn't seem to have been a problem, as I recall the  
 installer figured out that there wasn't enough space and used a  
 workaround, no intervention on my part needed. Pretty nice.
 
 Dave

Likewise. I upgraded from F11-F12 with a boot size of 190M. I got
messages about boot being to small but I continued and it all worked
out.

Good luck.

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Re: Anyone knows how to install VMware Server 2.0.2 on F13?

[Itamar Reis Peixoto]

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Yanglong ZHU yanglong@gmail.com wrote:
 To the other responders.
 KVM runs on my machine, but the issue is that there is no way to boot
 XP after the initial copying stage. That is, the XP installation could
 not complete. Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2140 does not support
 hardware virtualization.




buy a new hardware, and don`t use vmware.



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Re: SSH / permissions problem

[Gabriel VLASIU]

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On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Daniel J Walsh wrote:

 If you delete the ~/.Xauthority file does it work in enforcing mode?
For me works fine second time. Second time, third time, etc. a 
.Xauthority-[abc...] file is created and the message
/usr/bin/xauth:  timeout in locking authority file /home/gary/.Xauthority
is issued.


Gabriel

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Re: Firefox / Thunderbird setup niggle

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 22:07 +0930, Tim wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 15:27 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  Thunderbird and Firefox are GTK apps, not QT ones, so you have to
  modify the Gnome environment and not the KDE one.
 
 Shouldn't that be, then, having to use a GTK configurator, more than
 having to using something Gnome?

As I understand it, the Gnome config stuff (Gconf) implies a substratum
of GTK libraries communicating over DBus. That's what I mean by Gnome
environment. Whether the actual configuration app is part of the Gnome
distro isn't important, but it does need to use the libraries. So in
theory one could have a QT-based app that interfaced to GTK, or even a
version of the KDE System Settings panel that fully understood Gconf,
but for the moment we don't.

poc

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Re: Anyone knows how to install VMware Server 2.0.2 on F13?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 10:29 -0300, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Yanglong ZHU yanglong@gmail.com wrote:
  To the other responders.
  KVM runs on my machine, but the issue is that there is no way to boot
  XP after the initial copying stage. That is, the XP installation could
  not complete. Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2140 does not support
  hardware virtualization.
 
 
 
 
 buy a new hardware, and don`t use vmware.

Telling someone who asks about XX don't use XX with no argument or
justification is not useful.

poc

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Re: SSH / permissions problem

[Antonio Olivares]

--- On Wed, 7/14/10, Gary Stainburn gary.stainb...@ringways.co.uk wrote:

 From: Gary Stainburn gary.stainb...@ringways.co.uk
 Subject: Re: SSH / permissions problem
 To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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Thanks,

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Re: sshd Authentication refused

[David Highley]

Rick Sewill wrote:
 
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  The keys work except for ssh Fedora 12 - Fedora 13. If you ssh
  Fedora 13 - Fedora 12 or ssh Fedora 12 - Fedora 12 they work. If you
  provide a password when sshing Fedora 13 - Fedora 12 it works. Just
  need to solve the issue of needing to provide a password.
  
 
 I assume ssh Fedora 13 - Fedora 13 works.

We only have one system running Fedora 13 so I'm not able to do this
test.

 
 Could you compare the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file on Fedora 12 with the
 /etc/ssh/sshd_config file in Fedora 13?  Just guessing, but perhaps
 there is some option in the Fedora 13 sshd_config that needs tweaking.

Did this and only found comment differences.

 
 I looked at http://www.openssh.org/faq.html
 The faq said,
 3.14 - I copied my public key to authorized_keys but public-key
 authentication still doesn't work.
 
 Typically this is caused by the file permissions on $HOME, $HOME/.ssh or
 $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys being more permissive than sshd allows by
 default.

Yes, that would be an issue if we had done any copying, need to preserve
permissions and selinux acls.

 
 In this case, it can be solved by executing the following on the server.
 
 $ chmod go-w $HOME $HOME/.ssh
 $ chmod 600 $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys $ chown `whoami`
 $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys

Tried all of this before posting this query and still did not work.

 
 If this is not possible for some reason, an alternative is to set
 StrictModes no in sshd_config, however this is not recommended.
 
 I am wondering what happens if you put StrictModes no in the
 Fedora 13 /etc/ssh/sshd_config file.  This would only be for a test.
 They specifically said they do not recommend doing this so I wouldn't
 leave this option set this way, but I'm curious what happens.

Ran this test and it works.

 
 Clarification please: is it true public key authentication doesn't work,
 Fedora 12 - Fedora 13?  Does password authentication work,
 Fedora 12 - Fedora 13?

Yes, public key fails and password works. This is looking like the issue
described in this bug report:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481233

The difference being Samba is not involved.

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Re: Install questions

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 00:45:33 -0400,
  Alex mysqlstud...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 - Is it possible to pass arguments to mkfs during install, so I can
 limit the size of the reserved blocks? I have a 1TB disk, and I
 believe the default is 5% for ext4, meaning 500MB is wasted.

Not from the normal screen. There may be a way through a ks file.
Otherwise you can either set up the file systems before the install or
change the amount of reserved space after the install. I'd suggest
doing the latter using tune2fs. You can specify reserved space less than
1% if you want.

 - If I choose the option during install to use all the available disk
 space, it splits it into two partitions, one for root and one for
 /home. What is the sense of that for a desktop system? Why not just
 create one large partition?

It can make updates easier. It might also help with backups, depending on
how you are doing them.

 - I have to install Windows 7 on this computer as well. Should I
 install Windows 7 first, then install fedora, and use grub as the
 bootloader? Will fedora automatically configure the dual-boot if it
 detects Windows on the disk already?

Generally the recommendations I have seen are to install windows first.
I think I have seen people say that you can install it later these days,
but I don't know the specifics of that.
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Re: sshd Authentication refused

[David Highley]

Antonio Olivares wrote:
 
 
 
 --- On Tue, 7/13/10, David Highley dhigh...@highley-recommended.com wrote:
 
  From: David Highley dhigh...@highley-recommended.com
  Subject: Re: sshd Authentication refused
  To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
  Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 7:52 PM
  x¥TmoÚ0þž_qb_ç¼
 
 
 
 What could be causing these characters?
 Using yahoo mail with konqueror.  Try ASCII encoding, message still will look 
 cryptic.  What could be causing this?

Looks fine on my end, but I still use Elm:-) I see more issues from the
GUI emailers that believe email to be video conferencing platform.

 
 A similar thing happened on test list.  This had not happened before.
 Will forward other message that does not look proper.  
 
 Thanks,
 
 Antonio 
 
 
 
 
   
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Re: SSH / permissions problem

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 06:51 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
  x}S飇A艀B#663340㏄驛ZjR+es7w7鎛鳂軰��薹洟褗!�.丑憬7o?9�9TvG'�0v;
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 C錼�
  哛e嫸�
 
 What could be causing these characters?
 Using yahoo mail with konqueror.  Try ASCII encoding, message still
 will look cryptic.  What could be causing this?
 
 A similar thing happened on test list.  This had not happened before.
 Will forward other message that does not look proper.  

My default position is that it's Yahoo's fault unless you can
demonstrate the contrary. Yahoo Mail sucks for mailing lists (no
threading, hard to avoid HTML, hard not to top-post, etc.) so maybe this
is another amusing quirk. Have you seen the problem in personal mail?

poc

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Re: yum update failure

[Gregory P. Ennis]

On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 06:59 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: 
 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote:
  Dear List,
 
  I noticed a problem with an update of evolution  on my laptop with
  2.6.33.4-95.fc13.i686.PAE.   I thought the problem was with evolution
  and made an entry on this list.  Kevin Fenzi aptly pointed me in the
  right direction.
 
  I have done the following :
 
  yum clean all
 
  rm /var/lib/rpm/__db.00*
 
  rpm --rebuilddb
 
  When I try to update an rpm yum is not pulling the recent rpm's from the
  repository.
 
  Any ideas?
 
 Stale mirror perhaps?
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Mike,

Thanks for your suggestion!!!

I thought perhaps it was a bad mirror as well.  To test this I removed
the comment marker from baseurl and then commented out the mirrorlist.
After doing a yum clean all, this change did not result in a remedy.

baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/debug/
#mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-debug-$releaseverarch=$basearch

Greg

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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[siavash ghiasvand]

 Be specific.  Which packages?  Why can't you use kickstart?

 Rahul

Each package which is NOT essential for booting the system.
Some of those important but not essential packages are:
- passwd
- openssh
- sudo
- dirmngr
- file
and many more...

These packages are very important but they are not essential! I mean
the linux kernel can booting up without them.
So, I need the minimum (Read it: Just essential) packages which must
have to bring up a Fedora system.

Sincerely yours,
Siavash Ghiasvand
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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 07/14/2010 08:18 PM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
 Be specific.  Which packages?  Why can't you use kickstart?

 Rahul
 
 Each package which is NOT essential for booting the system.
 Some of those important but not essential packages are:
 - passwd
 - openssh
 - sudo
 - dirmngr
 - file
 and many more...

 These packages are very important but they are not essential! I mean
 the linux kernel can booting up without them.
 So, I need the minimum (Read it: Just essential) packages which must
 have to bring up a Fedora system
   
You didn't answer why you can't use kickstart and pick your own set of
packages?

Rahul
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[389-users] Slow logging

[Gerrard Geldenhuis]

Hi
In my lab system I am seeing quite a long delay(10+seconds) between the actual 
ldap request and the logging of the request in the access log. Is this normal 
behavior? and can it be speeded up? Admittedly I have not investigated this 
much yet but noticed it and thought I would ask quickly. Using latest stable 
from EPEL and Centos 5.5 fully updated.

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Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[JB]

siavash ghiasvand siavash.ghiyasvand at gmail.com writes:

 1- What are Minimum Required RPM Packages for installing Fedora? (just
 booting up the system with kernel and then, a simple command line
 access)
 2- How can I reach this minimal system? (As I described above those
 dependencies make it impossible to remove unwanted packages after
 installation and also there is no option to remove unwanted packages
 before installation)
 
Hi,
I have found a project called JeOS = Just enough Operating System
that deals with similar issues.
  http://orangejeos.sourceforge.net/
It has an informative site.
After that you can download 
  oj-builder-1.8.7-11.noarch.rpm
which, when installed, lets you take a look at their kickstart files.
I hope it will be useful.
JB





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Re: [389-users] Problems compiling svrcore

[Rich Megginson]

Stefan-Michael Guenther wrote:
 Hi,

  --with-nss=/usr/src/mozilla/security/nss/lib/nss.h
 --with-nss=/usr/src/mozilla/security/nss/lib/
 I think you mean
 --with-nss-inc=/path/to/directory/containing/nss *.h files
 --with-nss-lib=/path/to/directory/containing/nss *.so files

 Can you paste your config.status?
 
 I have uploaded it:

 http://www.in-put.de/config.log   (33KB)
Thanks.  Sorry, I meant config.log, not config.status.

This is your configure command:

  $ ./configure --with-nss-inc=/usr/include/ --with-nss-lib=/usr/lib/nss 
--with-nspr-inc=/usr/local/include/nspr/ --with-nspr-lib=/usr/local/lib/ 
--with-nss=/usr/src/mozilla/security/nss/lib/nss.h


This is incorrect for several reasons.

 Thanks for your help,

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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[siavash ghiasvand]

 You didn't answer why you can't use kickstart and pick your own set of
 packages?

 Rahul

Cause first I need to know what are those essential packages! after
that, as you and other guys said I can use kickstart to picking up
them.
BTW, thanks for your attention And if you have any idea about those
essential packages please let me know. thanks.

Siavash
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Re: [389-users] Slow logging

[Rich Megginson]

Gerrard Geldenhuis wrote:
 Hi
 In my lab system I am seeing quite a long delay(10+seconds) between the 
 actual ldap request and the logging of the request in the access log. Is this 
 normal behavior?
Yes.  By default, the access log is buffered.
 and can it be speeded up?
Yes.
ldapmodify -x -D cn=directory manager -w yourpassword
dn: cn=config
changetype: modify
replace: nsslapd-accesslog-logbuffering
nsslapd-accesslog-logbuffering: off

but for high performance in production environments, it is recommended 
to leave buffering on, or perhaps use the new Named Pipe Log Script.
http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Named_Pipe_Log_Script
 Admittedly I have not investigated this much yet but noticed it and thought I 
 would ask quickly. Using latest stable from EPEL and Centos 5.5 fully updated.

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Re: yum update failure

[Gregory P. Ennis]

On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 09:36 -0500, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: 
 On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 06:30 +, JB wrote: 
  Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:
  
   
   When I try to update an rpm yum is not pulling the recent rpm's from the
   repository.
   
  Hi,
  I assume it is Fedora 13.
  We have to do it methodically, jumping all over places does not do it.
  Please post full output (uncut):
yum list all
yum clean all
yum check-update
  Now take one package you believe is not beeing updated and post output 
  (note 
  the asterisks, please include them before/after package name):
yum list *problem_package_name*
  This will get us going in search for the problem.
  JB
  
 JB,
 
 Thanks for your help.  The list file was huge so I attached it instead
 of pasting in-line... hope that is ok with everyone.  Other than the the
 attached file everything else is below in the order that you have
 requested.
 
 Greg
 
 [r...@re01 ~]# yum clean all
 Loaded plugins: downloadonly, presto, priorities, refresh-packagekit
 Cleaning up Everything
 0 delta-package files removed, by presto
 
 
 [r...@re01 ~]# yum check-update
 Loaded plugins: downloadonly, presto, priorities, refresh-packagekit
 fedora/metalink
 |  21 kB 00:00 
 fedora
 | 4.3 kB 00:00 
 fedora/primary_db
 |  10 MB 00:34 
 
 
 [r...@re01 ~]# yum list evolution
 Loaded plugins: downloadonly, presto, priorities, refresh-packagekit
 Installed Packages
 evolution.i686 2.30.1-6.fc13
 @anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386
 

JB,

The attached list file was 1.4 mg and did not make it to the list

I have pasted  a section of the file pertaining evolution below; if you
want to see the whole file I have posted it here :

http://www.pomec.net/yum_list_all.txt

@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386
evince.i686  2.30.1-2.fc13
@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386
evince-djvu.i686 2.30.1-2.fc13
@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386
evince-libs.i686 2.30.1-2.fc13
@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386
[1m[33mevolution.i686(B[m   2.30.1-6.fc13
@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386
[1m[33mevolution-conduits.i686(B[m  2.30.1-6.fc13
@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386
evolution-couchdb.i686   0.3.2-2.fc13
@fedora   
evolution-data-server.i686   2.30.1-2.fc13
@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386


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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[siavash ghiasvand]

 Hi,
 I have found a project called JeOS = Just enough Operating System
 that deals with similar issues.
  http://orangejeos.sourceforge.net/
 JB

Thank you very much, I read that project description and it looks
similar to mine. but for further reply I must spend some time there.

Siavash
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Re: DVD writing oddity

[Bill Davidsen]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 16:01 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Recompiled them to use --dwis instead.
 
 Or you could use a script.
 
Scripts only help if you do the same thing over and over. You can define it, 
too:
DWIS=--some-meaningless-nonsense-someone-thinks-is-cute

But for one time use not having to enter the options is good, being meaningless 
they are hard to remember.

Stupid option names are like scars on the Mona Lisa.

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yum update failure

[JB]

Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:

 ...
Hi,
I must apologize first for mistyped entry request ('yum list all) - this is not
what I wanted.
I meant to ask for output of:
  yum repolist all
Also, get output of:
  yum check
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Re: New Update has no kmod for new kernel and new nvidia driver

[mike cloaked]

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Steven P. Ulrick
lists-fed...@afolkey2.net wrote:

 On my system I use akmods  akmods-nvidia  The way it works for me is that
 if necessary akmods rebuilds the nVidia kernel module when I reboot into a 
 new
 kernel.  Some people have no luck with the akmods method.  For me, it has
 always worked perfectly.

 This is on Fedora 13.

I used to use the akmod also - mostly it did work for me but there
were some graphics cards for which it did not work and I ended up not
using the akmod or kmod once the open source drivers started becoming
generally reliable (apart from 3d). However the additional use of the
mesa-dri-drivers-experimental package is giving some very good results
for 3d.

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Re: yum update failure

[JB]

Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:

 
Gregory,
you have a plugin called downloadonly - the package is:

$ yum list *downloadonly*
yum-plugin-downloadonly.noarch  1.1.27-2.fc13   @updates

The description of it is:
$ yum info yum-plugin-downloadonly.noarch
...
Description: This plugin adds a --downloadonly flag to yum so that yum will only
   : download the packages and not install/update them.

We have to remove it:
$ yum remove yum-plugin-downloadonly.noarch
...
confirm it y (Yes) to remove.

Now let's try again:
$ yum check-update
...

I hope it works now ?
JB









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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 07/14/2010 08:30 PM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
 You didn't answer why you can't use kickstart and pick your own set of
 packages?

 Rahul
 
 Cause first I need to know what are those essential packages! after
 that, as you and other guys said I can use kickstart to picking up
 them.
   

You pick what you want in that list and remove those you don't want. 
There is no agreed upon list that applies to everybody.

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Re: yum update failure

[Gregory P. Ennis]

On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 15:35 +, JB wrote: 
 Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:
 
  ...
 Hi,
 I must apologize first for mistyped entry request ('yum list all) - this is 
 not
 what I wanted.
 I meant to ask for output of:
   yum repolist all
 Also, get output of:
   yum check
 JB


JB.

No problem... I almost sent a note of question and in retrospect I
should have..  I only have fedora and fedora updates enabled.  However,
in producing the the list of  yum list all, the rpms in that list are
the ones that my system is referencing which are not the ones that are
current.

Thanks again for your help.

Greg


[r...@re01 tmp]# yum repolist all
Loaded plugins: downloadonly, presto, priorities, refresh-packagekit
repo id  repo name  status
adobe-linux-i386 Adobe Systems Incorporateddisabled
fedora   Fedora 13 - i386  enabled: 16,814
fedora-debuginfo Fedora 13 - i386 - Debug  disabled
fedora-sourceFedora 13 - Sourcedisabled
google-chromegoogle-chrome disabled
livnarpm.livna.org for 13 - i386   disabled
livna-debuginfo  rpm.livna.org for 13 - i386 - Debugdisabled
livna-source rpm.livna.org for 13 - i386 - Source   disabled
rpmfusion-free   RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Freedisabled
rpmfusion-free-debuginfo RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Free - Debu disabled
rpmfusion-free-rawhide   RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Free   disabled
rpmfusion-free-rawhide-debuginfo RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Free -
disabled
rpmfusion-free-rawhide  RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Free - disabled
rpmfusion-free-source   RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Free - Sour disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates  RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Free - Upda disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates-debuginfo  RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Free - Upda
disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates-source  RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Free - Upda
disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates-testing  RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Free - Test
disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates-testing-debuginfo  RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 -
Free - Test disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates-testing-sourceRPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Free
- Test disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree  RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Nonfree disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-debuginfo   RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Nonfree - D
disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Nonfre
disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide-debuginfo   RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide -
Nonfre disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide-source  RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide -
Nonfre disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-source  RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Nonfree
- S disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Nonfree
- U disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-debuginfo   RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Nonfree
- U disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-source  RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Nonfree
- U disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Nonfree
- T disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing-debuginfo RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 -
Nonfree - T disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing-sourceRPM Fusion for Fedora 13 -
Nonfree - T disabled
updates   Fedora 13 - i386 - Updatesenabled: 361+3,358
updates-debuginfo  Fedora 13 - i386 - Updates - Debug disabled
updates-source Fedora 13 - Updates Source disabled
updates-testingFedora 13 - i386 - Test Updatesdisabled
updates-testing-debuginfo   Fedora 13 - i386 - Test Updates Debug
disabled
updates-testing-source  Fedora 13 - Test Updates Sourcedisabled
repolist: 16,814



[r...@re01 yum.repos.d]# yum check
Loaded plugins: downloadonly, presto, priorities, refresh-packagekit
check all


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Re: Preupgrade F11 --- F12 ?

[Patrick Bartek]

--- On Tue, 7/13/10, Peter Diercks di-lis...@jls-hh.de wrote:

 I am running a server under F11. It is a remote machine
 which I have no
 physical access to. It has a network connection. I wanted
 to upgrade to
 F12 using preupgrade again, but this time I am afraid I'll
 run into
 problems due to the size of /boot (194M, 153M free space).
 
 
 Does anybody know if this issue has been fixed?

Not that I've heard.  500MB is still the safe minimum (from what I've read) 
for /boot for preupgrading.

Maybe, this will help:

   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade

FWIW: I've never had good luck with upgrading Fedora.  For that reason, I've 
always done clean installs on separate partitions keeping the previous install 
and setting up a dual boot in case things go wrong.

B
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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, siavash ghiasvand siavash.ghiyasv...@gmail.com said:
 Each package which is NOT essential for booting the system.
 Some of those important but not essential packages are:
 - passwd
 - openssh
 - sudo
 - dirmngr
 - file
 and many more...

Everybody's list of essential packages is different.  For example,
most people would have passwd on their list, since without it, you
can't set a password for logging in.  You may be using network logins,
even for root, so you might put NIS or LDAP client packages on your
essential list instead, but most do not (or don't for all users), so
they'd want passwd (and may not want NIS/LDAP support as essential).

Some things are installed because they are dependencies.  For example,
even though you may never use awk yourself, the standard init scripts
use and require it, so you can't remove it.

If you don't like the core packages in the Fedora list, you'll have to
decide on your own what you consider essential; nobody can make that
decision for you.  You can go through the list of installed packages and
use rpm and yum to see what the dependencies are (to see what you can
remove and what is required by basic system packages).
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Re: [389-users] Problems compiling svrcore

[Stefan-Michael Guenther]

Hi,

 http://www.in-put.de/config.log (33KB)
 Thanks. Sorry, I meant config.log, not config.status.

 This is your configure command:

 $ ./configure --with-nss-inc=/usr/include/ --with-nss-lib=/usr/lib/nss
 --with-nspr-inc=/usr/local/include/nspr/ --with-nspr-lib=/usr/local/lib/
 --with-nss=/usr/src/mozilla/security/nss/lib/nss.h


 This is incorrect for several reasons.
 
Thanks for your quick answer.

I hope you don't mind when I say that it is obvious, that the command 
contains at least one error - otherwise I wouldn't need help.

/usr/include/ contains nss.h - correct option?
/usr/lib/nss/ contains libnssdbm3.so - correct option?
/usr/local/include/nspr contains nspr.h - correct option?
/usr/local/lib/ contains libnspr4.so - correct option?
/usr/src/mozilla/security/nss/lib contains nss.h - correct option?

And, by the way, this is not my first attempt to compile software on a 
linux system. My first attempt was somewhere in 1995.

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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[JD]

  On 07/14/2010 02:51 AM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
 Dear All,

 For some reasons I want to know what are Minimum Required RPM
 Packages for installing fedora on a PC.
 At installation time, we can remove all optional packages and after
 removing them Fedora will install with nearly 200 packages! But, many
 of these packages are not necessary, for example OpenSSH, WireLess,
 etc.

 Then, when I tried to remove those unwanted packages after
 installation, many many dependencies appeared.

 So, I have two questions:
 1- What are Minimum Required RPM Packages for installing Fedora? (just
 booting up the system with kernel and then, a simple command line
 access)
 2- How can I reach this minimal system? (As I described above those
 dependencies make it impossible to remove unwanted packages after
 installation and also there is no option to remove unwanted packages
 before installation)

 Sincerely yours,
 Siavash Ghiasvand
There is no such description in all of fedora's documentation.
Also, your description of unwanted is too vague and may well
be ill defined.
For examle ls, which is part of the core tools, is not necessary
for the kernel to boot and run - but without it, you are pretty
much crippled. Ditto with ps.
So you need to dig deeper into understanding what you mean
by the most basic set of packages.


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Re: yum update failure

[Gregory P. Ennis]

On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 15:50 +, JB wrote: 
 Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:
 
  
 Gregory,
 you have a plugin called downloadonly - the package is:
 
 $ yum list *downloadonly*
 yum-plugin-downloadonly.noarch  1.1.27-2.fc13   
 @updates
 
 The description of it is:
 $ yum info yum-plugin-downloadonly.noarch
 ...
 Description: This plugin adds a --downloadonly flag to yum so that yum will 
 only
: download the packages and not install/update them.
 
 We have to remove it:
 $ yum remove yum-plugin-downloadonly.noarch
 ...
 confirm it y (Yes) to remove.
 
 Now let's try again:
 $ yum check-update
 ...
 
 I hope it works now ?
 JB

JB,

You were correct to cause me to look at the downloadonly plugin... it
was enabled.  I originally did in upgrade from f12 to f13 instead of a
new install, and then installed yum-cron.  I do not remember installing
the downloadonly plugin, or enabling it.  I used your syntax to remove
the plug in as well as yum-cron. but the results of yum check-update
were :
[r...@re01 pluginconf.d]# yum check-update
Loaded plugins: presto, priorities, refresh-packagekit
3487 packages excluded due to repository priority protections

So no cigar yet.

Greg

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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[siavash ghiasvand]

 Everybody's list of essential packages is different.  For example,
 ...
 remove and what is required by basic system packages).

 There is no such description in all of fedora's documentation.
 Also, your description of unwanted is too vague and may well
 be ill defined.


Thanks chris and JD
It seams I couldn't describe my issue clearly.

As you said, passwd or less may be or may not be essential for some users!
But, without udev or device-mapper system couldn't boot at all;
I'm looking for these packages, which are essential for a proper boot.

Clearly: I need a minimal list of those packages which are critical
for booting a system and without just one of those packages booting
is impossible. (A truly minimal)

Siavash
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Re: Anyone knows how to install VMware Server 2.0.2 on F13?

[Chris Rouch]

On 14 July 2010 13:40, Yanglong ZHU yanglong@gmail.com wrote:
 The VMware's script vmware-config-tools.pl asks for

 What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your 
 running
 kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]

 I tried all other look like include directories, none worked except
 /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/include

 After searching and copying the utsrelease.h file as in the following,
 I got another set of error messages.

 [r...@localhost xyz123]# find . -iname '*relea*'
 ./config/kernel.release
 ./generated/utsrelease.h
 [r...@localhost xyz123]# cp -p generated/utsrelease.h linux/

 By the way, those web sites referred to towards the end of the error
 message did not have much anything. Even when I was logged in.

 ---
 What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your 
 running
 kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
 /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/include

 Extracting the sources of the vmmon module.

 Building the vmmon module.

 Using 2.6.x kernel build system.
 make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only'
 make -C /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/include/..
 SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/. modules
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64'
 CC [M] /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o
 In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:31:
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:78: error:
 conflicting types for ‘poll_initwait’
 include/linux/poll.h:70: note: previous declaration of ‘poll_initwait’ was 
 here
 In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vmware.h:38,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:99:
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_basic_types.h:108:7:
 warning: __FreeBSD__ is not defined
 In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./common/vmx86.h:32,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.h:29,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:101:
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/x86msr.h:164:1: warning:
 MSR_THERM2_CTL redefined
 In file included from
 /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/arch/x86/include/asm/msr.h:4,
 from 
 /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/arch/x86/include/asm/processor.h:21,
 from include/linux/prefetch.h:14,
 from include/linux/list.h:6,
 from include/linux/module.h:9,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/compat_module.h:27,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:26:
 /usr/src/kernels/2.6.33.6-147.fc13.x86_64/arch/x86/include/asm/msr-index.h:230:1:
 warning: this is the location of the previous definition
 In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vcpuset.h:103,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/modulecall.h:37,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./common/vmx86.h:33,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.h:29,
 from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:101:
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:329:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:333:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:401:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:407:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:460:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:506:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:551:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:595:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:640:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:684:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:729:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:773:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:775:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:816:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:860:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:862:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:903:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:945:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:947:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:986:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not defined
 /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/vm_atomic.h:1028:7: warning:
 _MSC_VER is not 

Re: [389-users] Problems compiling svrcore

[Rich Megginson]

Stefan-Michael Guenther wrote:
 Hi,

 http://www.in-put.de/config.log (33KB)
 Thanks. Sorry, I meant config.log, not config.status.

 This is your configure command:

 $ ./configure --with-nss-inc=/usr/include/ --with-nss-lib=/usr/lib/nss
 --with-nspr-inc=/usr/local/include/nspr/ --with-nspr-lib=/usr/local/lib/
 --with-nss=/usr/src/mozilla/security/nss/lib/nss.h


 This is incorrect for several reasons.
 
 Thanks for your quick answer.

 I hope you don't mind when I say that it is obvious, that the command 
 contains at least one error - otherwise I wouldn't need help.
In general, I think there is quite a bit of confusion between the system 
NSS (Name Switch Service - man nss - e.g. /etc/nsswitch.conf) used for 
naming services (hosts, passwd, etc.) and Mozilla NSS (Network Security 
Services) used for cryptographic services.  In the interest of sanity, I 
will refer to Mozilla NSS as moznss.

It's also incorrect because you specify both -with-nss-inc and 
--wth-nss-lib you must not also specify --with-nss.

It's also incorrect because the values for --with-XXX= should be a _path 
name_ not a _file name_.

--with-nss and --with-nspr take the _path name_ of a directory.  This 
directory should contain a lib sub directory containing the shared 
libraries, and should contain an include directory containing the .h 
files.  Since this may not always be the case that the lib and include 
sub-directories are in the same parent directory, separate 
--with-nss-inc and --with-nss-lib switches were added to give you more 
fine grained control.

 /usr/include/ contains nss.h - correct option?
This is system NSS, not moznss.  So, not correct option.
 /usr/lib/nss/ contains libnssdbm3.so - correct option?
This is system NSS, not moznss, so not correct option.
 /usr/local/include/nspr contains nspr.h - correct option?
It could be - did you build this one?
 /usr/local/lib/ contains libnspr4.so - correct option?
It could be - did you build this one?
 /usr/src/mozilla/security/nss/lib contains nss.h - correct option?
No, as I explained above.

 And, by the way, this is not my first attempt to compile software on a 
 linux system. My first attempt was somewhere in 1995.
Ok.

 Stefan


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Re: yum update failure

[mike cloaked]

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote:

 Thanks for your suggestion!!!

 I thought perhaps it was a bad mirror as well.  To test this I removed
 the comment marker from baseurl and then commented out the mirrorlist.
 After doing a yum clean all, this change did not result in a remedy.

 baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/debug/
 #mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-debug-$releaseverarch=$basearch


Hmm interesting url - with debug! Where did you put that line?

Why not try 
baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/

That is in the fedora.repo file I presume? And I wonder what you did
with the other lines in this file?

You should have also in the fedora-updates.repo file:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/$releasever/$basearch/


However in the original fedora.repo file there is a mirrorlist and not
a specific mirror - like
mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releaseverarch=$basearch

and in the fedora-updates.repo file:
mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-f$releaseverarch=$basearch

The debug stuff is further down those files - perhaps you should
revert to a working set of repo files??


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yum update failure

[JB]

Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:

 ...
 [root at Re01 pluginconf.d]# yum check-update
 Loaded plugins: presto, priorities, refresh-packagekit
 3487 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
 
Hi,

you have a plugin called priorities, which is fine.
I assume it is enabled, which is fine too:
# cat /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/priorities.conf
[main]
enabled = 1

Now we have to check if that priority indicator is enabled in your repos.
Please get me output of:
# grep -i priority /etc/yum.repos.d/*

JB





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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[Suvayu Ali]

On Wednesday 14 July 2010 09:38 AM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
 Everybody's list of essential packages is different.  For example,
 ...
 remove and what is required by basic system packages).

 There is no such description in all of fedora's documentation.
 Also, your description of unwanted is too vague and may well
 be ill defined.


 Thanks chris and JD
 It seams I couldn't describe my issue clearly.

 As you said, passwd or less may be or may not be essential for some users!
 But, without udev or device-mapper system couldn't boot at all;
 I'm looking for these packages, which are essential for a proper boot.

 Clearly: I need a minimal list of those packages which are critical
 for booting a system and without just one of those packages booting
 is impossible. (A truly minimal)


I would make a minimal LiveCD from a kickstart file. Then boot a virtual 
machine with the iso. I would then try to remove what I consider not 
required and double check the yum output for essential deps which might 
have crept in. I would then use that to further streamline my kickstart. 
Then rinse and repeat until satisfied.

If you feel like it, you might want to tell us _why_ you want this 
extreme minimal install. There could be other solutions people can 
suggest. For example if you want fewer packages to reduce disk space 
requirements then there are efforts like febootstrap that reduce disk 
usage to under 50 MB. If your requirement is because you want to use it 
in a very specialised hardware for a very specialised application, even 
then people might be able to suggest better alternatives.

To conclude, more complete information will be helpful.

 Siavash

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[OT] vi question

[Mike Wright]

Hi all,

I'm wasting a lot of time (probably because of a brain fart) googling 
for this.

I'm using Zend_Framework to generate some html which it unfortunately 
does as one giant line.  I'm pretty sure it has an error but can't find 
the missing/extra tag without formatting the html with line feeds.

Will somebody tell me the symbol to use for a linefeed in substitutions 
  as in
:s1,$#/tag#/taglinefeed#g

tia,
Mike Wright
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Re: New Update has no kmod for new kernel and new nvidia driver

[Michael Miles]

On 07/14/2010 04:14 AM, Steven P. Ulrick wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Michael Milesmmami...@gmail.com  wrote:
  
 On 07/13/2010 06:06 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

 --- On Tue, 7/13/10, Michael Milesmmami...@gmail.com   wrote:


  
 Fedora 12 x86_64

 I did look this time and it seems the gods that have
 control did not
 give a kmod for the new Nvidia driver 195.36.31 for the new
 kernel
 2.6.32.16-141.
 It has a kmod there for the old kernel 2.6.32.14-127

 The metapackage is there to track in new kmod but if there
 is no kmod
 there how can it track in?

 Anyway I hope nobody just pressed update without
 checking


 That's why I update manually.  No auto-update for me.  I don't even use the
  
 -y switch with yum, so I can still opt out of the update after I see the
 download list.

 As far as the new kmod, wait a few days, then check again.  The longest I
  
 had to wait one time (with F9) was a week, but most times it was a day or two.
   However, I don't have to wait anymore:  F12's nouveau works just fine with 
 my
 old GeForce 6600 card.

 B

  
 It just seems odd that this would be overlooked as to someone who is
 newer to Linux than myself could find themselves in trouble if they just
 updated because the system says there are updates.

 It is not overlooked by the Fedora package builders - remember that
 the Nvidia drivers are built by rpmfusion and not in the Fedora update
 system. So they are on a third party repo and the guys at rpmfusion
 will take some time to build the nvidia stuff for a new kernel once it
 is released. As a previous poster mentioned - just wait a few days and
 try again. In the meantime it is quite easy to boot back to the
 previous kernel where you had the nvidia stuff in place - then when
 the new kmod is available and installed then boot into the new kernel
 with the new kmod..
  
 On my system I use akmods  akmods-nvidia  The way it works for me is that
 if necessary akmods rebuilds the nVidia kernel module when I reboot into a 
 new
 kernel.  Some people have no luck with the akmods method.  For me, it has
 always worked perfectly.

 This is on Fedora 13.

 Steven P. Ulrick

I fully understand the obligations of Fedora and RPMFusion and I do 
understand that it is easy to fall back if thing don't work like they 
are supposed to but to a person who just loaded Fedora for the first 
time might be really baffled when they do an update and find the system 
will not boot up.

I just think the updates should be held back until all the required 
software is present.


Michael
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Re: yum update failure

[Gregory P. Ennis]

On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 16:45 +, JB wrote: 
 Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:
 
  ...
  [root at Re01 pluginconf.d]# yum check-update
  Loaded plugins: presto, priorities, refresh-packagekit
  3487 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
  
 Hi,
 
 you have a plugin called priorities, which is fine.
 I assume it is enabled, which is fine too:
 # cat /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/priorities.conf
 [main]
 enabled = 1
 
 Now we have to check if that priority indicator is enabled in your repos.
 Please get me output of:
 # grep -i priority /etc/yum.repos.d/*
 
 JB

Thank you again for your help !!

/etc/yum.repos.d/adobe-linux-i386.repo:priority=90
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:failovermethod=priority
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:priority=1
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:failovermethod=priority
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:failovermethod=priority
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:failovermethod=priority
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:priority=2
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:failovermethod=priority
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:failovermethod=priority
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:failovermethod=priority
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:failovermethod=priority
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:failovermethod=priority
/etc/yum.repos.d/rpmfusion-free.repo:priority=10
/etc/yum.repos.d/rpmfusion-nonfree.repo:priority=20


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Re: [OT] vi question

[Sjoerd Mullender]

On 2010-07-14 19:26, Mike Wright wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm wasting a lot of time (probably because of a brain fart) googling 
 for this.
 
 I'm using Zend_Framework to generate some html which it unfortunately 
 does as one giant line.  I'm pretty sure it has an error but can't find 
 the missing/extra tag without formatting the html with line feeds.
 
 Will somebody tell me the symbol to use for a linefeed in substitutions 
   as in
   :s1,$#/tag#/taglinefeed#g
 
 tia,
 Mike Wright

Type control-V control-M.

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Re: Community gaming Saturday - Session 6 - Wesnoth

[Michael Cronenworth]

Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 It's not that hard to play for new players.

I can testify to this. I beat everyone my first go around. ;)

See you there, Bruno.
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yum update failure

[JB]

Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:

  
 You were correct to cause me to look at the downloadonly plugin... it
 was enabled.  I originally did in upgrade from f12 to f13 instead of a
 new install, and then installed yum-cron.  I do not remember installing
 the downloadonly plugin, or enabling it.  I used your syntax to remove
 the plug in as well as yum-cron. but the results of yum check-update
 were :
 [root at Re01 pluginconf.d]# yum check-update
 Loaded plugins: presto, priorities, refresh-packagekit
 3487 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
 
Hi,
there is a possibility that yum-cron package, which requires downloadonly plugin
package was the intended way to maintain your system.
If your machine were part of a corporate environment, it could be set up by
your tech people to run yum-cron job daily/weekly from a corporate cache of
packages (instead of directly from the Interent).
That would explain the output of:
 [root at Re01 ~]# yum list evolution
 Loaded plugins: downloadonly, presto, priorities, refresh-packagekit
 Installed Packages
 evolution.i686 2.30.1-6.fc13
 @anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i38
and
the full list of packages (that big file ...:) ).
This @anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i38 could be some kind of a repo.
If you are in that kind of environment, let me know.
So please stay put, we will try to figure it out.
JB
  




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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[siavash ghiasvand]

 I use this in rhel 5 right before I list the extra packages I want
 such as tar/openssh etc...

Thanks Joseph. It would be helpfull.



 I would make a minimal LiveCD from a kickstart file. Then boot a virtual
 machine with the iso. I would then try to remove what I consider not
 required and double check the yum output for essential deps which might
 have crept in. I would then use that to further streamline my kickstart.
 Then rinse and repeat until satisfied.

Thanks Suvayu, good tips.

 tell us _why_ you want this extreme minimal install

The first reason is: Minimal disk drive and the second reason is:
Prevent any future conflict which means, on that extreme minimal
linux all packages can be installed without any problem (must be
guaranteed).
I'm talking about some rare, custom-build packages which may conflict
with Fedora base packages.
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yum update failure

[JB]

Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:

 ...
 /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:priority=1
 ...
 /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:priority=2
 
Hi,
please give me an uncut output of:

# cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo
and 
# cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo

Looks like we are getting closer.
JB


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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[Suvayu Ali]

On Wednesday 14 July 2010 10:50 AM, siavash ghiasvand wrote:
   tell us_why_  you want this extreme minimal install
 The first reason is: Minimal disk drive and the second reason is:
 Prevent any future conflict which means, on that extreme minimal
 linux all packages can be installed without any problem (must be
 guaranteed).
 I'm talking about some rare, custom-build packages which may conflict
 with Fedora base packages.

Okay, as I mentioned in my earlier post, for disk space requirements you 
can try febootstrap. it is available in the Fedora repositories.

 Name   : febootstrap
 Arch   : x86_64
 Version: 2.7
 Release: 1.fc13.1
 Size   : 67 k
 Repo   : updates
 Summary: Bootstrap a new Fedora system (like debootstrap)
 URL: http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/febootstrap/
 License: GPLv2+
 Description: febootstrap is a Fedora equivalent to Debian's debootstrap.  You
: can use it to create a basic Fedora filesystem, and build 
 initramfs
: (initrd.img) or filesystem images.
:
: febootstrap also includes a separate tool to minimize filesystems
: by removing unneeded locales, documentation etc.
:
: The main difference from other appliance building tools is that
: this one doesn't need to be run as root.

But this might not reduce your list of installed packages to something 
as small as you are looking for. Maybe you can try the method I outlined 
earlier to reduce the package list, and subsequently use this to reduce 
the disk usage.

GL

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F14 wallpapers, request for feedback and submissions

[Jef van Schendel]

Hi everyone,

There's two things about Fedora 14's wallpaper I'd like to talk to you about!


~ Number 1: Fedora 14 default wallpaper ~

Recently the Design Team chose what will in time become the default
Fedora 14 wallpaper. Obviously, we'd love to hear what the community
thinks about it!

Máirín Duffy blogged [1] about the new wallpaper. This is only a very
early version and we're still working on it, but in order to do this
right we want to know what everyone thinks. If you any suggestions,
comments, questions or other feedback, feel free to leave a message
behind on the blog post or here on the mailing list! The team will
collect all of your feedback and review it to improve the wallpaper.
Eventually you'll see it appear in the F14 Alpha.


~ Number 2: Fedora 14 supplemental wallpapers ~

The default wallpaper is important, but there's no accounting for
taste and that's why we have a number of supplemental wallpapers in
new releases. If you're a photographer or illustrator with a knack for
creating wallpapers (or know someone who is!), head over to Fabian
Scherschel's blog [2], where he explains how you can submit your
images for the upcoming release. Maybe you'll see your own pictures
appear in the next Fedora release! :)

Naturally, we'd like as many people as possible to know about this and
give them a chance to show off their work, so feel free to spread the
word by blogging, denting or tweeting away.

The deadline for the supplemental wallpapers is Thursday, August 19,
so be sure to send them in before then!


I'm looking forward to hearing what all of you think, and hope to
collect some great supplemental wallpapers. If you have any questions,
drop by on the #fedora-design IRC channel where the Design Team hangs
out.

Let's make F14 look beautiful!

Jef

[1] http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/fedora-14-theme-preview/
[2] http://srcview.org/2010/f14-wallpapers/
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Re: yum update failure

[Gregory P. Ennis]

On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 17:48 +, JB wrote: 
 Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:
 
   
  You were correct to cause me to look at the downloadonly plugin... it
  was enabled.  I originally did in upgrade from f12 to f13 instead of a
  new install, and then installed yum-cron.  I do not remember installing
  the downloadonly plugin, or enabling it.  I used your syntax to remove
  the plug in as well as yum-cron. but the results of yum check-update
  were :
  [root at Re01 pluginconf.d]# yum check-update
  Loaded plugins: presto, priorities, refresh-packagekit
  3487 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
  
 Hi,
 there is a possibility that yum-cron package, which requires downloadonly 
 plugin
 package was the intended way to maintain your system.
 If your machine were part of a corporate environment, it could be set up by
 your tech people to run yum-cron job daily/weekly from a corporate cache of
 packages (instead of directly from the Interent).
 That would explain the output of:
  [root at Re01 ~]# yum list evolution
  Loaded plugins: downloadonly, presto, priorities, refresh-packagekit
  Installed Packages
  evolution.i686 2.30.1-6.fc13
  @anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i38
 and
 the full list of packages (that big file ...:) ).
 This @anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i38 could be some kind of a repo.
 If you are in that kind of environment, let me know.
 So please stay put, we will try to figure it out.
 JB
   

JB,

I wish we had an IT staff, but unfortunately what we have is me and the
skill set I have learned from reading a bunch of manuals and the good
people on this list and others.

I am the one that installed yum-cron, but I did not change any of the
standard repositories.  The only thing I did different on this machine
is to perform an upgrade from F11 to F13 instead of a new install.

Thanks again for your help!!!

Greg

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Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

[siavash ghiasvand]

 Okay, as I mentioned in my earlier post, for disk space requirements you
 can try febootstrap. it is available in the Fedora repositories.

 But this might not reduce your list of installed packages to something
 as small as you are looking for. Maybe you can try the method I outlined
 earlier to reduce the package list, and subsequently use this to reduce
 the disk usage.

Thank you very much, I will check it ASAP.
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Re: Anyone knows how to install VMware Server 2.0.2 on F13?

[Kevin J. Cummings]

On 07/14/2010 12:41 PM, Chris Rouch wrote:
 
 I don't know the answer to your question, but I suggest  googling
 vmware server linux kernel 2.6.33. A variation on this worked well
 for f12 and the results returned indicate some people have had
 success.

I googled this as well (back in February).  I found 2 files:

vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh
vmware-server-2.0.2-203138-update.patch

with which I was able to get VMWare server 2.0.2 running (again) on my
F12 laptop.  I had to aply the patches by hand directly to the
containing .tar files in the RPM.  In fact, I just re-ran
vmware-config.pl for the new 2.6.32.16-141 kernel for F12, and it
rebuilt successfully.

All I can say about VMWare these days, is that it runs worse and worse
with every kernel update.  It is no longer the lean, sleek VM manager it
once was when I started using it in the FC6 time frame (VMWare-server-1.x).

Good advice about virtual migration is welcome (so that I don't lose my
data in my current virtual machine).

 Regards,
 
 Chris

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Re: yum update failure

[Gregory P. Ennis]

On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 17:59 +, JB wrote: 
 Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:
 
  ...
  /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:priority=1
  ...
  /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:priority=2
  
 Hi,
 please give me an uncut output of:
 
 # cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo
 and 
 # cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo
 
 Looks like we are getting closer.
 JB
 
 

JB,

Here they are

Greg


[r...@re01 pluginconf.d]# cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo
[fedora]
name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/
mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releaseverarch=$basearch
enabled=1
metadata_expire=7d
gpgcheck=1
priority=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch

[fedora-debuginfo]
name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Debug
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/debug/
mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-debug-$releaseverarch=$basearch
enabled=0
metadata_expire=7d
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch

[fedora-source]
name=Fedora $releasever - Source
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/source/SRPMS/
mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-source-$releaseverarch=$basearch
enabled=0
metadata_expire=7d
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch



[r...@re01 pluginconf.d]# cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo
[updates]
name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Updates
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/$releasever/$basearch/
mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-f$releaseverarch=$basearch
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
priority=2
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch

[updates-debuginfo]
name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Updates - Debug
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/$releasever/$basearch/debug/
mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-debug-f$releaseverarch=$basearch
enabled=0
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch

[updates-source]
name=Fedora $releasever - Updates Source
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/$releasever/SRPMS/
mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-source-f$releaseverarch=$basearch
enabled=0
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch


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Re: [OT] vi question

[Steve Searle]

Around 06:26pm on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 (UK time), Mike Wright scrawled:

 I'm using Zend_Framework to generate some html which it unfortunately 
 does as one giant line.  I'm pretty sure it has an error but can't find 
 the missing/extra tag without formatting the html with line feeds.

Not the answer to your question, but you might find tidy a usefull cli
app to tidy up your html.

yum install tidy

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Re: New Update has no kmod for new kernel and new nvidia driver

[Suvayu Ali]

On Wednesday 14 July 2010 10:27 AM, Michael Miles wrote:
 I fully understand the obligations of Fedora and RPMFusion and I do
 understand that it is easy to fall back if thing don't work like they
 are supposed to but to a person who just loaded Fedora for the first
 time might be really baffled when they do an update and find the system
 will not boot up.


Some one who has RPMFusion installed is definitely not a brand new user, 
and some one who has the proprietary nvidia drivers installed are 
definitely not a novice. After all, they managed to follow the 
instructions on the RPMFusion wiki to blacklist nouveau.

 I just think the updates should be held back until all the required
 software is present.


By default fedora provides nouveau, which works. I find it works well 
enough to even support dual screens (I have tried it with Ubuntu Lucid). 
So someone using the proprietary drivers made a choice knowingly about 
the pitfalls.

However something that could be improved is probably the instructions on 
the RPMFusion wiki, to include this warning and explicitly state wait 
and update would be a healthy practice for a system using proprietary 
drivers (and maybe even the fedoraproject wiki?).


 Michael

Just my 2 cents.

PS: With all these kmod problems suddenly ATI looks very promising to me 
with much better working opensource drivers.

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Re: New Update has no kmod for new kernel and new nvidia driver

[Rick Stevens]

On 07/14/2010 10:27 AM, Michael Miles wrote:
 On 07/14/2010 04:14 AM, Steven P. Ulrick wrote:
 On my system I use akmods   akmods-nvidia  The way it works for me is 
 that
 if necessary akmods rebuilds the nVidia kernel module when I reboot into a 
 new
 kernel.  Some people have no luck with the akmods method.  For me, it has
 always worked perfectly.

 This is on Fedora 13.

 Steven P. Ulrick

 I fully understand the obligations of Fedora and RPMFusion and I do
 understand that it is easy to fall back if thing don't work like they
 are supposed to but to a person who just loaded Fedora for the first
 time might be really baffled when they do an update and find the system
 will not boot up.

 I just think the updates should be held back until all the required
 software is present.

Chicken and egg, Michael.  They can't do kmods until the kernel is out
and with your suggestion, the kernel can't come out until the kmods are
done.

I agree it's a problem.  As long as there are two groups working on it
(kernel and kmods) and there's little communication pre-release between
them, I don't see a simple resolution.

I can see two possible solutions.  One would take the form of yum
checking to see if kmods are needed for a new kernel on the system and
not downloading the kernel if the kmods aren't available.  Simply
using dependencies isn't feasible as that would block people who don't
need the kmods from using the kernel when it's released.  Yum would need
to do some snooping on the system to find if kmods are needed or not.

The second could be the grub updater doing a similar thing and not
making the new kernel the default booting kernel if kmods don't exist.
It'd have to do a similar kind of snoop that yum would have to do.

I don't think either of these will be forthcoming anytime soon.
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yum update failure

[JB]

Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:

 
 On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 17:59 +, JB wrote: 
  Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:
  
   ...
   /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:priority=1
   ...
   /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:priority=2
   
  Hi,
  please give me an uncut output of:
  
  # cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo
  and 
  # cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo
  
 
 [root at Re01 pluginconf.d]# cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo
 [updates]
 ...
 priority=2
 ...
 
Hi,
please edit as root (vi editor or other that you can use as root user) the file
# vi /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo
and move cursor to line with priority=2
and type i to enter edit/insert mode
and change that line to priority=1
and hit Escape to exit edit mode
and hit Shift plus :
type wq to save/quit.

Now try again:
# yum check-update

Does it work ?
If not I need the output as usually.
JB
 


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Fedora Logs out straight after Log in is complete

[Rishi Patel]

Hello everyone,

New to using linux and everything; I was just getting into the flow of
things, had everything set up like I want it, and then I went to add
foxyTunes to firefox so I could control Amarok and the system randomly
logged out and displayed the log in page!

So i logged back in, and everything started to load up again, and as soon as
it was done, it logged out again!

I have rebooted, tried KDE failsafe mode, as well as Default, but to no
avail. Failsafe mode brings up the white terminal box. I can however log
into root, which is how I am posting this message.

Could anyone offer any help with this?

Thank you.
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Re: [OT] vi question

[Michael Hennebry]

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Sjoerd Mullender wrote:

 On 2010-07-14 19:26, Mike Wright wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm wasting a lot of time (probably because of a brain fart) googling
 for this.

 I'm using Zend_Framework to generate some html which it unfortunately
 does as one giant line.  I'm pretty sure it has an error but can't find
 the missing/extra tag without formatting the html with line feeds.

 Will somebody tell me the symbol to use for a linefeed in substitutions
   as in
  :s1,$#/tag#/taglinefeed#g

 tia,
 Mike Wright

 Type control-V control-M.

That would be carriage return.
convrol-V control-J might work.
You might not be able to substitute a linefeed with vi.
I think sed can do it.

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Re: [OT] vi question

[Sjoerd Mullender]

On 2010-07-14 21:19, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Sjoerd Mullender wrote:
 
 On 2010-07-14 19:26, Mike Wright wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm wasting a lot of time (probably because of a brain fart) googling
 for this.

 I'm using Zend_Framework to generate some html which it unfortunately
 does as one giant line.  I'm pretty sure it has an error but can't find
 the missing/extra tag without formatting the html with line feeds.

 Will somebody tell me the symbol to use for a linefeed in substitutions
   as in
 :s1,$#/tag#/taglinefeed#g

 tia,
 Mike Wright

 Type control-V control-M.
 
 That would be carriage return.
 convrol-V control-J might work.
 You might not be able to substitute a linefeed with vi.
 I think sed can do it.
 

I know it's a carriage return.  Did you try it?  If not, do.  Linefeed
(control-J) doesn't work.

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log messages F13

[Frank Murphy]

My /var/log/messages

seems to have started hording info.
It is now 112mb in size.
Covers 3-4 days of info.

I use logwatch with daily reports,
not sure what went wrong.

What can I do to do a daily clearout?

No other logs affected.
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Re: log messages F13

[Greg Woods]

On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 20:58 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
 My /var/log/messages
 

 What can I do to do a daily clearout?

man logrotate


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Re: log messages F13

[Andy Blanchard]

On 14 July 2010 20:58, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
 My /var/log/messages

 seems to have started hording info.
 It is now 112mb in size.
 Covers 3-4 days of info.

Unless this is a busy server, then that seems rather excessive to say
the least - mine is currently 14kB, but I redirect quite a bit of
stuff into other files.

If I had to guess I'd say your log level details have been changed, or
something is suddenly generating a lot of syslog entries/content.  The
former can be fixed by tweaking /etc/rsyslog.conf, the latter by
inspecting the log file and seeing what is generating the bulk of the
content.  If it's not immediately obvious what is broken*, posting a
sample the log file here would be a great help.

* broken here includes the particularly verbose and annoyingly
multi-line (AKA next to useless for automatic handling) messages
output by certain application servers - Tomcat being my particular
bete noir...

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Re: New Update has no kmod for new kernel and new nvidia driver

[Suvayu Ali]

On Wednesday 14 July 2010 11:38 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
 The second could be the grub updater doing a similar thing and not
 making the new kernel the default booting kernel if kmods don't exist.
 It'd have to do a similar kind of snoop that yum would have to do.

The user can do this themselves,

$ cat /etc/sysconfig/kernel
# UPDATEDEFAULT specifies if new-kernel-pkg should make
# new kernels the default
UPDATEDEFAULT=yes

Change the UPDATEDEFAULT to no

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yum update failure

[JB]

Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:

 
 On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 17:59 +, JB wrote: 
  Gregory P. Ennis PoMec at PoMec.Net writes:
  
   ...
   /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:priority=1
   ...
   /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:priority=2
   
  Hi,
  please give me an uncut output of:
  
  # cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo
  and 
  # cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo
  
 
 [root at Re01 pluginconf.d]# cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo
 [updates]
 ...
 priority=2
 ...
 
Hi,
have we lost the last my message (the thread flows got convoluted a little) ?
So I repeat it in the main thread again.

please edit as root (vi editor or other that you can use as root user) the file
# vi /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo
and move cursor to line with priority=2
and type i to enter edit/insert mode
and change that line to priority=1
and hit Escape to exit edit mode
and hit Shift plus :
type wq to save/quit.

Now try again:
# yum check-update

Does it work ?
If not I need the output as usually.
JB




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Intel 82852/855GM and fc13 problems with videos

[Gianluca Cecchi]

Hello,
trying to configure F13 x86 on an old laptop for a friend of mine, tired of
WIndows viruses and problems; the pc is a Dell Latitude D505
ALso basically works apart from video and video contnts in browser...

lspci says
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated
Graphics Device (rev 02)

default config (no xorg.conf) works well in general, but unable to handle
videos (with both mplayer and totem); also in flash.

for example starting mplayer I get its window witg blue backgroubd and X
Windows System freezes
I can switch to a terminal and see this in messages:
Jul 14 22:06:18 popi kernel: [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck
timer elapsed... GPU hung
Jul 14 22:06:18 popi kernel: render error detected, EIR: 0x
Jul 14 22:06:18 popi kernel: [drm:i915_do_wait_request] *ERROR*
i915_do_wait_request returns -5 (awai
ting 142311 at 142310)

Trying init 3 - init 5 I get black screen with an arrow in the middle (that
I can move around with mouse... ) and I have to restart to be able to use
graphical env again.

In messages I have also, when system starts:
Jul 14 21:28:01 popi kernel: [Firmware Bug]: Duplicate ACPI video bus
devices for the same VGA controller, please try module parameter
video.allow_duplicates=1if the current driver doesn't work.
(not tried yet the suggestion...)

Strange thing in /var/log I have many xorg.N.log files.
[root@ log]# ll Xorg.*
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 58304 14 lug 21:52 Xorg.0.log
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  8515 14 lug 21:25 Xorg.0.log.old
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  8515 14 lug 21:25 Xorg.1.log
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  8515 14 lug 21:25 Xorg.1.log.old
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  8515 14 lug 21:25 Xorg.2.log
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  8515 14 lug 21:25 Xorg.2.log.old
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  8515 14 lug 21:25 Xorg.3.log
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  8515 14 lug 21:25 Xorg.3.log.old
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  8515 14 lug 21:25 Xorg.4.log
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  8515 14 lug 21:25 Xorg.4.log.old
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  8515 14 lug 21:25 Xorg.5.log
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  8515 14 lug 21:25 Xorg.5.log.old
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 28350 26 giu 14:03 Xorg.9.log

If I try to start with kernel option nomodeset I get error about intel
driver and fbdev and vesa ones fail
Any way to be able to make basic graphic things with this video device in
F13?
Eventually creating Xorg.conf or passing any kernel option at boot time?

At this moment no (EE) in Xorg.0.log and these (WW):

[29.975] (II) LoadModule: intel
[29.975] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so
[29.976] (II) Module intel: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[29.976]compiled for 1.8.0, module version = 2.11.0
[29.976]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[29.976]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 7.0
[29.976] (II) LoadModule: vesa
[29.976] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
[29.976] (II) Module vesa: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[29.976]compiled for 1.8.0, module version = 2.3.0
[29.976]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[29.976]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 7.0
[29.976] (II) LoadModule: fbdev
[29.976] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
[29.976] (II) Module fbdev: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[29.976]compiled for 1.7.99.3, module version = 0.4.1
[29.976]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 7.0
[29.976] (II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets:
i810,
i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G,
E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM, Pineview G,
965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, GM45,
4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43, Clarkdale, Arrandale
[29.977] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
[29.977] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
[29.977] (++) using VT number 1

[29.977] (II) Primary Device is: PCI 0...@00:02:0
[29.977] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
[29.977] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev


At the end the intel driver is loaded:


[33.260]ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
[33.260] (II) UnloadModule: vesa
[33.260] (II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
[33.260] (II) UnloadModule: fbdev
[33.260] (II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
[33.260] (II) UnloadModule: fbdevhw
[33.260] (II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.so
[33.260] (==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
[33.260] (II) intel(0): [DRI2] Setup complete
[33.260] (II) intel(0): [DRI2]   DRI driver: i915
[33.260] (**) intel(0): Tiling enabled
[33.260] (**) intel(0): SwapBuffers wait enabled
[33.260] (==) intel(0): VideoRam: 131072 KB
[33.260] (II) intel(0): Attempting memory allocation with tiled buffers.
[33.260] (II) intel(0): Tiled allocation successful.
[33.261] (II) UXA(0): Driver 

OT: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Marcel Rieux]

I often type voyels too fast so I'd like errors such as teh to be
automatically corrected to the. I searched the web but all the solutions I
found involved using menu entries that are not in OOo 3.1.1. Does anybody
know how to do this?

I often use the zoom in Firefox, Is there any way to make Firefox remember a
default zoom? Is there a keyboard shortcut to navigate to the right of the
screen when zoomed in? Always using the bottom scrollbar is a pain.

TIA
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Crashes

[Marcel Rieux]

Firefox is often killed by signal 11:

Package:firefox-3.5.10-1.fc12
Latest Crash:Mon 12 Jul 2010 11:45:16 PM
Command:/usr/lib64/firefox-3.5/firefox --sm-config-prefix
/firefox-P8PZv6/ --sm-client-id
10a7781fec216fecbb1278870778770015530047 --screen 0
Reason: Process /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5/firefox was killed by signal
11 (SIGSEGV)
Comment:None
Bug Reports:

Today, abrt even reported a kernel crash... with no detail:

Package:kernel
Latest Crash:Tue 13 Jul 2010 09:29:07 PM
Command:not_applicable
Reason: [ cut here ]
Comment:None
Bug Reports:

But the system stayed stable. Is this any cause for concern. Is this really
the kind of stuff that should be reported? I wonder if, for know-nothing
liek me, abrt is more than a nuisance.
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