Re: No WIFI under HP Probook 4515s

2010-08-20 Thread JB
Zoltan Hoppar hopparz at gmail.com writes:

 ...
 Still shows no wifi network, just disconnected at NM.
 But the driver is in:
 (lspci -vnn)06:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312
 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
 
 Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:1508]    Physical Slot: 1
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17    Memory at 9200
 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]    Capabilities: access denied
 
 Kernel driver in use: wl
 Kernel modules: wl, ssb
 The problem is doesn't see the ESSID's, just disconnected.
 Or simply just doesnt support this driver?
 ...
Hi,

Check your BIOS for anything related.

FAQ:
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43/faq

Have you examined your dmesg, /var/log/messages carefully ?

These are the devs of b43 firmware.
$ yum info b43-openfwwf
http://www.ing.unibs.it/openfwwf/
If you need help, send a message to the OpenFWWF team at 
 openf...@ing.unibs.it
...
To make firmware work properly:
$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/openfwwf.conf 
options b43 nohwcrypt=1 qos=0

You can retry:
# modprobe -r b43
# modprobe b43 nohwcrypt=1 qos=0

and check /var/log/messages.

# modinfo b43
# lsmod |grep -i b43

Btw, please do not top post (on top of previous text) - most people prefer
bottom posting, otherwise some can get angry and refuse helping you :-)

JB


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Re: Slow network with F13

2010-08-20 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

john wendel jwende...@comcast.net writes:
 I've got a couple of boxes connected with wire and a gigabit ethernet 
 switch. With F11 on the sending and receiving sides, I see a transfer 
 speed of ~ 40 MB/s transfering large files.  With F13 on the sending box 
 (same box, just new software), I get a transfer speed of ~ 23 MB/s with 
 the same files. The disk read speed on the F13 box looks to be ~ 75 
 MB/s, so it doesn't seem to be the bottleneck.

I'd try to test the network and disk aspects separately.  You might want
to give ttcp a try between the two boxes and test just the network
speed.  For all we know, you might be seeing a slower data path to the
disks.  The ttcp test program is in the f13 yum repository.

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Re: Recent Mirror Drain Bamage?

2010-08-20 Thread John Austin
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 21:58 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 21:53 -0400, Chris Kloiber wrote:
  Is it just me, or are the Fedora 13 repos experiencing real problems 
  lately? I have to run yum upgrade as many as 10 times in a row to pull 
  down all the updates as I keep getting what amounts to transient 404 
  errors (may/may not work the second or third time, probably trying a 
  different mirror). Just wondering...
 
 Chris,
 
 To minimize my WAN traffic, I rsync the F13 release and update mirrors
 from //download.fedora.redhat.com to local repos every day, then yum
 update all my systems using those locals (rather like RHEL's Satellite).
 I've not seen any difficulties like you describe. (I'd be happy to send
 you copies of those scripts if you'd like.)
 
 --Doc Savage
   Fairview Heights, IL
 

I would also be grateful of copies of these scripts if you
were happy to send them

John




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Re: No WIFI under HP Probook 4515s

2010-08-20 Thread JB
Zoltan Hoppar hopparz at gmail.com writes:

 ...
 Still shows no wifi network, just disconnected at NM.
 But the driver is in:
 (lspci -vnn)06:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312
 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
 
 Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:1508]Physical Slot: 1
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17Memory at 9200
 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]Capabilities: access denied
 
 Kernel driver in use: wl
 Kernel modules: wl, ssb
 The problem is doesn't see the ESSID's, just disconnected.
 Or simply just doesnt support this driver?
 ...

Hi,
I have just looked at your output and seen these lines
 Kernel driver in use: wl
 Kernel modules: wl, ssb
which indicate that there is another proprietary driver from Broadcom

http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt

that is downloadable from rpmfusion repository
# yum install kmod-wl
...
  Installing : kmod-wl-2.6.33.6-147.2.4.fc13.i686-5.60.48.36-1.fc13.1 
  Installing : broadcom-wl-5.60.48.36-1.fc13.noarch
  Installing : kmod-wl-5.60.48.36-1.fc13.10.i686

Now, this baby is blacklisting b43 driver in
$ # cat /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-wl-blacklist.conf 
# modules blacklisted for broadcom-wl
blacklist bcm43xx
blacklist ssb
blacklist b43
blacklist ndiswrapper

OK.
So, you have a choice of trying both, wl and b43, but remember to blacklist
the other when you try one.

I would try the b43 as we followed the instructions in my other posts, but in
this case we would have to remove the blacklisting of it:

# mv /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-wl-blacklist.conf
/etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-wl-blacklist.conf-orig

and blacklist the wl in turn :-)
# echo blacklist wl  /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-b43-blacklist.conf

Please remember that and restore/neutralize them when you will try the wl
driver !

One more thing, remove wl and related modules
# lsmod |grep -i wl
# modprobe -r wl

Now follow with the instructions from my other recent post to load b43 and
bind it to our wireless device.
If you succeed, you should see it in:
# lspci -vnn
# lsmod |grep -i b43
# cat /var/log/messages

You may reboot then to make the entire process run its course and get all
dmesg and /var/log/messages.

Let us know how did it go.
Having choices that just work is a beauty -:)

JB



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Re: No WIFI under HP Probook 4515s

2010-08-20 Thread JB
JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes:

 ...
Here is the official Fedora guide for that wl broadcom driver:
http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/broadcom-linux-sta-driver

JB
 





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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread John Aldrich
On Thu August 19 2010, Bob Goodwin wrote:
   On 18/08/10 22:44, Darr wrote:
  On Wednesday, 18 August, 2010 @12:46 zulu, Bob Goodwin scribed:
  I found a place under Services where I can start listing
  the assignments I want but it wont let me save or apply
  them.
  
  That's the right place.  But on the Setup Basic page you should
  set the DHCP scope to exclude the addresses you're using there.
  
  Click 'Add' and enter the info in all the fields correctly, else
  when you save/apply, it blanks them all out again (just the
  one you're working on; previous saves should not go blank
  from messing up a new one).
  
  Enter the MACs in the form 01:23:45:ab:cd:ef (i.e.
  not 012345abcdef, nor 01-23-45-ab-cd-ef, nor even cisco's
  0123.45ab.cdef format). I use the NetBIOS name in the
  Host name field.   If they're members of a domain, you
  should use the DHCP server of the domain controller, as
  DD-WRT's DHCP server is lacking a few features (e.g. no
  matter what IP is set for the Gateway in Network Setup
  the DHCP server instead assigns the Local IP Address as
  the Gateway when responding to BOOTP requests... it's
  also slow to respond).
  
  I use 10080 minutes for the Lease Time (1440 minutes is
  1 day, of course). You're supposed to be able to leave that
  one blank (I think it defaults to 4 days if blank), but I fill it
  in anyway.
  
  You cannot assign the same IP to multiple MACs (even
  if they're the wired and wireless interfaces on the same
  machine and are configured so only one can be active at
  a time). For the laptop I usually use on a dock, I have 3
  IPs reserved (for wireless, NIC, and the dock's NIC).
  
  Once you get the format right so it saves OK, you can click
  'Add' enough times to open the number of IP's you want
  to reserve and do them all at once, then click Save... but
  that's not much faster than saving them one-at-a-time.
  
  Once they're all saved, click Apply Settings. When it comes
  back, click Reboot Router, then the Static Leases should work.
 
 This has me really frustrated! Perhaps I don't have the right
 incantation but I'm unable to enter more than seven dhcp address
 assignments and keep them. I have a total of 17 that I need.
 
 I've entered all 17 of them and I can go through data entry box by
 box and do a little double click routine and each one fills in so it
 remembers what I've done, even through a power down! But those in
 excess of the first 7 are lost from the list of DHCP clients under
 the wireless system information tab!
 
 I fill in a few lines, click save then click apply and then go
 on and do some more up to the 16th line. They are not really applied
 it seems since they don' t appear in the dhcp client list? If I
 enter the 17th line and save they are immediately stripped out
 back to the first seven?
 
 I'm working from Firefox and did the Tools  Start Private
 Browsing thing if that matters but saw no change.
 
 Any idea what I am doing wrong?
 
Not really... however, it may be that the developers of DD-WRT never 
dreamed anyone would want more than a handful of DHCP assignments, so the 
functionality just isn't there. You might try hacking the code to create 
your own version of DD-WRT and submitting it back to them, or find something 
else, like your Fedora box, to do your DHCP assignments (just to help bring 
this thread back on-topic. Grin)
Seriously, I think asking a little SOHO router to handle static DHCP 
assignments for 15 or 20 devices is a bit much, then again, I've never 
tried this, so I don't know. I only have two PCs that I care about having 
static assignments... my linux box and my wife's PC. Hell, her PC could 
have a random IP for all it matters... :-) 
Point is, you may be trying to use a hammer to put a screw into a wall. It 
might do the job, but it's not really the right tool. In this case, you 
might want to look at finding something else to handle your DHCP 
assignments.
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Re: Printing problem on FC13

2010-08-20 Thread Tim Waugh
On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 10:58 -0400, Alex wrote:
 Just wondered if there has been any progress on the printing problem
 with Brother printers, specifically the HL-5070N?

Please file a bug report in Bugzilla so that the problem can be
discovered.  Without that, there almost certainly won't be any progress
at all I'm afraid.

Also, please take a look at this web page which has some tips about
identifying the problem area:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Printing/Debugging

Thanks,
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Re: USB Printer Problem (still...)

2010-08-20 Thread Tim Waugh
On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 11:50 -0500, Smith, Herb wrote:
 I haven’t made any progress on getting my Xerox 6130 printer to work
 with F13.

Previously I asked you to send a snippet of the strace log.
Unfortunately, I never got to see the bit that I needed. :-(

With the printer plugged in and switched on, what does this command
say?:
  ls -l /dev/usblp /dev/usb/lp0

It should be something like this:

lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root  7 Aug 20 11:55 /dev/usblp0 - usb/lp0
crw-rw. 1 root lp   180, 0 Aug 20 11:55 /dev/usb/lp0

i.e. usblp0 is a symlink to usb/lp0, which is group-rw for lp.

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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread Bob Goodwin
  On 20/08/10 06:38, John Aldrich wrote:

 Not really... however, it may be that the developers of DD-WRT never
 dreamed anyone would want more than a handful of DHCP assignments, so the
 functionality just isn't there. You might try hacking the code to create
 your own version of DD-WRT and submitting it back to them, or find something
 else, like your Fedora box, to do your DHCP assignments (just to help bring
 this thread back on-topic.Grin)
 Seriously, I think asking a little SOHO router to handle static DHCP
 assignments for 15 or 20 devices is a bit much, then again, I've never
 tried this, so I don't know. I only have two PCs that I care about having
 static assignments... my linux box and my wife's PC. Hell, her PC could
 have a random IP for all it matters... :-)
 Point is, you may be trying to use a hammer to put a screw into a wall. It
 might do the job, but it's not really the right tool. In this case, you
 might want to look at finding something else to handle your DHCP
 assignments.

I never considered that possibility since I have been doing this
routinely over the last four years, even with the wndr3300 router
that now has DD-WRT in it! But it sure looks like that might be the
case now that you suggested it?

There is no other dhcp server in the system. About all I could do is
change a dozen dhcp devices with fixed addresses.  I changed too
dhcp since there were fewer router configuration problems using it.

Some of the devices are portable and have been taken on vacation by
the users, system changes now are a major effort but I may have to
bite the bullet. It's more likely though that I will simply trash
the router which has been nothing but grief since I bought it. I had
hoped to make something useful of it ... I have a different router
on order from a different manufacturer, I feel I got stuck with the
WNDR3300!

Thanks for your thoughts.

Bob


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Re: Printing problem on FC13

2010-08-20 Thread Alex
Hi,

 Just wondered if there has been any progress on the printing problem
 with Brother printers, specifically the HL-5070N?

 Please file a bug report in Bugzilla so that the problem can be
 discovered.  Without that, there almost certainly won't be any progress
 at all I'm afraid.

Tim, thanks for the follow-up. I'll do that.

What information would you like to see, that would be most helpful, in
the bug report? Just versions of software, settings in the print
manager, and the error I receive?

Thanks,
Alex
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Re: Is swap really needed when RAM's aplenty

2010-08-20 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, JD wrote:

  On 08/19/2010 02:15 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, JD wrote:

 Problem comes as Michael explains, that when a process needs a large
 physically contiguous chunk of memory, it might not be available.
 That said, usually, requests for physically contiguous memory is only
 needed when wanting to map very large number of DMA pages for
 doing direct physical I/O.
 Otherwise, a process itself does not need to have physically contiguous
 pages. Only the virtual space allocated to that malloc or large buffer
 declaration in a program, is contiguous.
 Why would malloc or a large buffer declaration
 require physically contiguous memory?
 It is done in a driver on the process' behalf when doing direct physical
 IO .
 typically, such blocks of physically contiguous chunks memory are set
 aside during boot.
 I have also seen special embedded linux drivers that provide an ioctl
 to let the process get a set of physically contiguous pages and map the
 space
 to user virtual space. This is for performance reasons to reduce copying
 from user space to kernel space when large amounts of data need to be
 moved.
 This is not a new  idea. it has been around for many years. I first
 saw it in Linux back in 1998/1999.

Perhaps I misunderstood.
Do both of the following necessarily require physically contiguous memory?
char fred[69000];
char *greg=malloc(96000);
Would they sometimes require physically contiguous memory?

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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 06:38:01 -0400,
  John Aldrich jmaldr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Not really... however, it may be that the developers of DD-WRT never 
 dreamed anyone would want more than a handful of DHCP assignments, so the 

They also have a commercial version and have limited some things (not
necessarily DHCP assignments) in order to be able to sell the other version.

 functionality just isn't there. You might try hacking the code to create 
 your own version of DD-WRT and submitting it back to them, or find something 
 else, like your Fedora box, to do your DHCP assignments (just to help bring 
 this thread back on-topic. Grin)

If one wants to go that route, OpenWRT is probably a better choice.
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[OT] Free Linux Format Back Issues

2010-08-20 Thread Richard Heck

I was about to throw these in recycling when it occurred to me that 
someone here might want them. They go from July 2008 up to about March 
2010, with a couple later ones thrown in, too. Free except for shipping, 
which (in the US) shouldn't be more than $10, probably a lot less, since 
these can go media mail.

If you're interested, let me know.

Richard

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Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-20 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:

 Looking at the tail end of dmesg moments after you've inserted a drive
 is an easy way to see where the system finds it.  And you don't need to
 be the root user to read that info.


Yeah I got it very easily.


 With fdisk, you have to be familiar with all your drives on the system,
 so you can tell apart the newly inserted one from the others.  That's
 probably not too hard to do with a single USB flash drive, but gets
 complex with multiple drives.

Yes.


 ii) After that, I have to unmount it, using the command umount
 /dev/sdb so that it could be formatted.

 Is that a question?


In fact it was a statement I was confused at and was confirming that I
have to do it because it is a must to unmount the pen-drive before
formatting, but I only didn't put a question mark at the end.


 vfat if you want to easily use the device on different computer systems,
 including different Linux systems where your (numerical) user ID isn't
 always the same on each system.

 ext3 if you want to keep the different permissions and ownerships per
 user, only intend to use it on Linux systems, or Windows systems where
 you've installed extra drivers to handle ext3.


Now really, I know the basic difference. So I must use vfat.


 iv) I guess it would be correct:

 $ umount /dev/USBPARTITIONNAME

 $ /sbin/mkdosfs -F 32 -n usbdisk /dev/USBPARTITIONNAME

 Where, USBPARTITIONNAME is what I would be getting from query i)

 Looks right.  But don't take my word for it, read:  man mkdosfs


Sure, but I got these links from the page:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#How_to_Format
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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread Bob Goodwin
  On 20/08/10 09:48, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 06:38:01 -0400,
John Aldrichjmaldr...@yahoo.com  wrote:
 Not really... however, it may be that the developers of DD-WRT never
 dreamed anyone would want more than a handful of DHCP assignments, so the
 They also have a commercial version and have limited some things (not
 necessarily DHCP assignments) in order to be able to sell the other version.

 functionality just isn't there. You might try hacking the code to create
 your own version of DD-WRT and submitting it back to them, or find something
 else, like your Fedora box, to do your DHCP assignments (just to help bring
 this thread back on-topic.Grin)
 If one wants to go that route, OpenWRT is probably a better choice.


I followed the OpenWRT until I got to the point where it asked me to
get the right version of the software to install. I got lost there,
searched for a while and gave up ...

I did not see nay place where there was an advanced version of
DD-WRT for sale? I'll have to look again. I would pay a reasonable
amount for it.

Bob


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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread James Mckenzie
I have a question:  What does this have to do with Fedora?

I've been following this thread with an interest to see what installing a 
software package on a router/firewall has to do with Linux?

Give me a clue or take this elsewhere (like a router list.)

James McKenzie



-Original Message-
From: Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net
Sent: Aug 20, 2010 7:19 AM
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: Installing DD-WRT -

  On 20/08/10 09:48, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 06:38:01 -0400,
John Aldrichjmaldr...@yahoo.com  wrote:
 Not really... however, it may be that the developers of DD-WRT never
 dreamed anyone would want more than a handful of DHCP assignments, so the
 They also have a commercial version and have limited some things (not
 necessarily DHCP assignments) in order to be able to sell the other version.

 functionality just isn't there. You might try hacking the code to create
 your own version of DD-WRT and submitting it back to them, or find something
 else, like your Fedora box, to do your DHCP assignments (just to help bring
 this thread back on-topic.Grin)
 If one wants to go that route, OpenWRT is probably a better choice.


I followed the OpenWRT until I got to the point where it asked me to
get the right version of the software to install. I got lost there,
searched for a while and gave up ...

I did not see nay place where there was an advanced version of
DD-WRT for sale? I'll have to look again. I would pay a reasonable
amount for it.

Bob


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Re: Is swap really needed when RAM's aplenty

2010-08-20 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 16:15 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, JD wrote:
 
  Problem comes as Michael explains, that when a process needs a large
  physically contiguous chunk of memory, it might not be available.
  That said, usually, requests for physically contiguous memory is only
  needed when wanting to map very large number of DMA pages for
  doing direct physical I/O.
  Otherwise, a process itself does not need to have physically contiguous
  pages. Only the virtual space allocated to that malloc or large buffer
  declaration in a program, is contiguous.
 
 Why would malloc or a large buffer declaration
 require physically contiguous memory?
I have te equally interesting question? Why you think malloc allocates
memory blocks in the swap area. Do you have a reference for such a
statement?

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Re: Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread Alexander List
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I did not see nay place where there was an advanced version of
DD-WRT for sale? I'll have to look again. I would pay a reasonable
amount for it.

Honestly, I wouldn't go that route and support this reduction of
features for users of the open source DD-WRT.

You can get a small, low power x86 based system like the PC Engines Alix
[1] and install a choice OS on a flash disk.

http://www.pcengines.ch/order1.php?c=4

I haven't tried Fedora but Voyage Linux (a stripped down Debian for
embedded devices), but I guess as this is the Fedora-Users list, you
want to use your favourite distro. Someone's done that before:

http://sharkcz.livejournal.com/5708.html

You might want to consider looking into what the Voyage folks have done
to put all the writes (some /var subdirs, /tmp, ...) to tmpfs and
remount the ext3 partition read-only by default...

http://linux.voyage.hk/

Personally, I've gotten tired of buggy stock firmware contained in all
those *DSL routers - I simply make them dumb bridges and do all the
higher layers including PPPoE on an Alix board. Works like a charm with
pppd, and I have the full flexibility of a normal Linux box. I even run
IPv6 on it...

Alex
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Re: Is swap really needed when RAM's aplenty

2010-08-20 Thread Andrew Haley
On 08/20/2010 03:36 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 16:15 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, JD wrote:

 Problem comes as Michael explains, that when a process needs a large
 physically contiguous chunk of memory, it might not be available.
 That said, usually, requests for physically contiguous memory is only
 needed when wanting to map very large number of DMA pages for
 doing direct physical I/O.
 Otherwise, a process itself does not need to have physically contiguous
 pages. Only the virtual space allocated to that malloc or large buffer
 declaration in a program, is contiguous.

 Why would malloc or a large buffer declaration
 require physically contiguous memory?
 I have te equally interesting question? Why you think malloc allocates
 memory blocks in the swap area.

JD didn't say that.

He said that when a process needs a large physically contiguous chunk of memory,
you may need to use swap space to move other processes out of the way.

Andrew.
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Re: Printing problem on FC13

2010-08-20 Thread Tim Waugh
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 09:17 -0400, Alex wrote:
 What information would you like to see, that would be most helpful, in
 the bug report? Just versions of software, settings in the print
 manager, and the error I receive?

Run the printing troubleshooter and follow the instructions.  You should
end up with a troubleshoot.txt file which has lots of useful information
in it.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Printing/Debugging#Filing_a_bug_report

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Re: Question about Bluetooth

2010-08-20 Thread Darr
On Friday, 20 August, 2010 @04:38 zulu, JD scribed:

 $ ps -ef | grep blue
 root  1200 1  0 18:30 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/bluetoothd
 --udev
 jd1441  1230  0 18:31 ?00:00:00
 bluetooth-applet
 It is the gnome applet that does not show up after I log in.

Just to clarify, had you already unplugged/plugged-in the bt adapter before 
grep'ing that output? 

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Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13

2010-08-20 Thread Jon Ingason
Hi,

Have to computer where I run Fedora. One is i686 (Pentium III 
(Coppermine) 800 MHz), 512 Mbytes memory and the other one is x86_64 
(AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 1800 MHz,  2 Gbytes 
memory. I had installed F12 on both of them. The /boot (ext4) is 200 
Mbytes on both computer. I decided to do preupgrade on both (F12 - 
F13). Since the /boot is only 200 Mbytes I followed the instructions 
published on Fedora wiki How to use PreUpgrade 
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade).

The preupgrade of the i686 went fine. It only did do the first step so 
when I rebooted the computer I only needed to configure the network as 
stated in the wiki. When I tried to preupgrade the x86_64 using same 
method as with the i686 the /boot got full and the preupgrade program 
crashed.

I have goggled and not found this problem. Have other same problem with 
x86_64 or is there other way to do this without resizing /boot?

PS The rest of the disk is LVM on both computers.
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F13: How to reset KDE user/session desktop to its defaults?

2010-08-20 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

Since I am a heavy gnome desktop user, I decided
to take a look at KDE.

The first thing I tried to do was to figure out how to
move the bottom panel to the top, and I tried to
drag and move it, but in the process, I peeled something
out from the bottom and I unexpectedly dropped it into the
middle of the screen...  it appeared as a partial window,
there was only the title bar and what appeared to be, a 1/4
semi-window with no content and it was not a complete box
encapsulation, it looked like two sticks on the left and right.

I tried to put this panel back into the bottom panel, to
no avail, giving up, I ended up deleting it.

I noted that the bottom panel was not looking the same
from its default.

What I would like to do is to restore/reset the desktop back
to a first time user.

Is this possible?

Some say to delete the .kde4 in the user's home directory
but on F13, I only see .kde, not .kde3 nor .kde4, so I am
assuming that F13 by default is probably KDE 3?

As noted, I have amarok and perhaps other kde apps in
gnome so it is perhaps not a good idea to simply blow
away the .kde directory nor to simply rename the .kde
to something else and expect to recover my gnome  kde
configurations, piecewise?  In particular, I definitely do not
want to mess up my gnome settings, but since I am new to
KDE, all I care is to figure out how to restore KDE to its new
user defaults and proceed to learn how to configure KDE to
my taste.

Any advice?

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Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-20 Thread Mikkel
On 08/19/2010 12:38 PM, Tim wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 21:37 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote:
 From the very basics, could you please tell me sequentially:-

 i) How to know the partition name while inserting usb pen drive?
 Running fdisk -l or fdisk yields, but with sdb not written 1 or
 2 at the end of 'sdb', and for sure, 'sdb' is the pen drive partition
 name. Or the command, dmesg | tail?
 
 Looking at the tail end of dmesg moments after you've inserted a drive
 is an easy way to see where the system finds it.  And you don't need to
 be the root user to read that info.
 
 With fdisk, you have to be familiar with all your drives on the system,
 so you can tell apart the newly inserted one from the others.  That's
 probably not too hard to do with a single USB flash drive, but gets
 complex with multiple drives.
 
With gparted, you can see the size of each drive when you go to
select the drive to work on - it works as long as you do not have 2
drives of the same size plugged in.

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Kmail - Hard-wrapping URLs when pasting

2010-08-20 Thread Jorge Fábregas
Hello everyone,

I'm runing 1.13.5 (Fedora 12) and noticed that, on the Composer window, when I 
paste a long URL it hard-wraps it at the configured word wrap at setting.  
This is not the behavior when you actually type it (there are some smarts 
there that will detect you are writing an URL and won't wrap it) but it 
doesn't when you paste it.  This used to work back in Fedora 8 (don't know 
what Kmail version was over there).

I've looked every setting and can't find any option for it.

Regards,
Jorge
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Re: Kmail - Hard-wrapping URLs when pasting

2010-08-20 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On Friday 20 August 2010 11:55:29 Jorge Fábregas wrote:
 This is not the behavior when you actually type it (there are some smarts 
 there that will detect you are writing an URL and won't wrap it) but it 
 doesn't when you paste it.

I found something. I forgot to mention that I'm running Gnome and I'm 
suspecting some issues there (KDE app on Gnome). 

If I copy from Firefox (GTK app) and paste the URL into Kmail (QT app) I see 
this behavior (hard wraps it).  I now tried copying from K3B (some long 
string I typed on one of the config widgets) and when I paste that into Kmail 
it works perfectly (it doesn't wraps it).

At least now I know it's some inter-desktop-environment issue. If anyone knows 
a way around this please let me know.  I'll update the thread if I find 
anything.

Best regards,
Jorge
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Re: F13: How to reset KDE user/session desktop to its defaults?

2010-08-20 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 08:30 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 Any advice?

To work out what's what, file-wise, you could create a new user, and see
what files they get.  Modify that desktop, and see what files changes.
Then you'll know what to do with your own files.






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Re: F13: How to reset KDE user/session desktop to its defaults?

2010-08-20 Thread Jim
  On 08/20/2010 11:30 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 Since I am a heavy gnome desktop user, I decided
 to take a look at KDE.

 The first thing I tried to do was to figure out how to
 move the bottom panel to the top, and I tried to
 drag and move it, but in the process, I peeled something
 out from the bottom and I unexpectedly dropped it into the
 middle of the screen...  it appeared as a partial window,
 there was only the title bar and what appeared to be, a 1/4
 semi-window with no content and it was not a complete box
 encapsulation, it looked like two sticks on the left and right.

 I tried to put this panel back into the bottom panel, to
 no avail, giving up, I ended up deleting it.

 I noted that the bottom panel was not looking the same
 from its default.

 What I would like to do is to restore/reset the desktop back
 to a first time user.

 Is this possible?

 Some say to delete the .kde4 in the user's home directory
 but on F13, I only see .kde, not .kde3 nor .kde4, so I am
 assuming that F13 by default is probably KDE 3?

 As noted, I have amarok and perhaps other kde apps in
 gnome so it is perhaps not a good idea to simply blow
 away the .kde directory nor to simply rename the .kde
 to something else and expect to recover my gnome  kde
 configurations, piecewise?  In particular, I definitely do not
 want to mess up my gnome settings, but since I am new to
 KDE, all I care is to figure out how to restore KDE to its new
 user defaults and proceed to learn how to configure KDE to
 my taste.

 Any advice?

Deleting .kde will eliminate your desktop after restart of computer. 
Then you can rebuild it to what you want.

When you add new Panel, the first one will be installed at top of your 
desktop.

Be sure to put Task manger back onto Panel first, followed by System 
Tray, then Digital Clock and then anything else you want after that.
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Re: Pulseaudio error on HP Probook 4515s

2010-08-20 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
2010/8/20 Rick Sewill rsew...@gmail.com

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 On 08/19/2010 01:08 PM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
  Hi,
 
  This is an smaller problem around pulseaudio. I couldn't explain why is
  so, but I think this is an PA bug. Currently the playback works every
  way but, recording not. When I try to use Empathy jabber voice call
  option to my partner, then rings out with voice, but after pick up - for
  an shiny brief moment - the mic works, after that no more - and pops out
  an error that couldn't link source (maybe the thread makes itsef
  suicide, perhaps?). After that I have made an second try - I have
  attached an USB soundcard - what is widely usable on many linux (it uses
  Cystal Sound chipset). The result was disappointing - here the mic
  worked as should, but I heard no voice in my headphone, nor even at my
  speakers.
  Anybody could confirm this is an bug? Is there a known solution?

 
  PS: If needed, I'm ready to debug.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Zoltan
 
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 Usually, when I say things about Pulse Audio, others gently correct me.

 Sounds like you have two separate problems...without the USB sound card,
 your microphone stops working.

 With the USB sound card, your speakers/headphones stop working.

 I think you need to debug each problem separately.

 Do you have pavucontrol installed?
 rpm -q -i pavucontrol -- yum install pavucontrol


Yes. The whole PA set.



 I'd check what pavucontrol tells you about the volume settings for your
 input devices and output devices.  Please make sure nothing is muted.


Checked twice. Nothing is turned off.


 When you add the USB sound card, I'd expect separate controls for the
 second sound card.

 I only have one sound card...I'd expect Pulse Audio to supply a way to
 select the sink (speaker/headphone) and the source (microphone) to use
 when you have multiple sound cards.  I'm not sure how to select the
 source or sink when one has multiple sound cards.  Hopefully, others
 will answer.

 Before running empathy, does your microphone work when you do not have
 the USB sound card?


There is no sign, to there is some activity on monitors. For the stereo
analog device monitoring - it's pulsing as should, but for mic - it's only
seems for me nothing happens.


  After running empathy, do you need to reboot to get
 your microphone to work?


No.


 If you look at the pavucontrol settings for
 the microphone before starting empathy and compare those settings after
 you start empathy, what changes?


Nothing. I could control the volume up to 4x to the default, but nothing
changes. If I call my partner through empathy, then, I could hear him, but I
couldn't answer - he says he only hears from me garbage noice, or snatches.



 Before running empathy, your speaker/headphones work when you have a
 second sound card?


When the second usb card is inserted, and switching to the output, and input
- strangely the situation flips. There is totally silence from speakers, but
mic works. The problem gets harder, when I say that I have also an
integrated mic next to the built-in cam, and there is no any control/adjust
it/switch between the headphone mic and the built-in one.


 After running empathy, do you need to reboot to have
 your speaker/microphones work?


Sometimes Empathy Voip part immediatelly brokes, when the call is received -
or sent and picked up. Sometimes when I call - then doesn't get's broken,
just works without my mic. But when gets broken, yes - I need to restart the
whole machine, or kill the whole empathy - to release from freeze.


  What pavucontrol settings change for
 your speaker/headphones?

 I always look at http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup when I have
 problems with Pulse Audio...nothing jumps out at me that may help you.
 I'm curious what does Empathy think it's using for sound?  Is it Alsa or
 what?


It's alsa, with the control of PA - I think. I have installed earler alsa
and oss compatibility, Jack, and ESD too - sometimes earlier this repaired
the PA. But this time not. Also I know perfectSetup, I always begin here -
when problems appearing around PA.


 Is there anything in /var/log/messages from pulseaudio when you run
 empathy?

 Some bug reports suggest doing pulseaudio -vvv.  Normally, pulseaudio
 is running as a user startup application (or so I think).  Can one do
 kill pulseaudio
 pulseaudio -vvv  somefile.txt
 and see if there are any useful pulseaudio messages.
 I have no idea what pulseaudio -vvv produces...it may be lots of output.
 pulseaudio -vvv may have so many messages audio quality will be bad.


Here is the output from pulseaudio -vvv:

[zol...@localhost ~]$ pulseaudio -vvv
I: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) meghiúsult: A művelet nem
engedélyezett
I: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) meghiúsult: A művelet nem
engedélyezett
D: core-rtclock.c: Timer slack is set to 50 us.
D: core-util.c: 

Re: savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere

2010-08-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/17/2010 09:50 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

 I did that yesterday.  No new SPAM markings on my hourly emails, though
 some of my other admin emails are now getting marked as [SPAM], like a
 couple of denyhosts reports.  One of them had a -2.6 SPAM level

I suppose you could post those headers as well, so we could offer 
further advise.
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Re: Recent Mirror Drain Bamage?

2010-08-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/19/2010 06:53 PM, Chris Kloiber wrote:
 Is it just me, or are the Fedora 13 repos experiencing real problems
 lately? I have to run yum upgrade as many as 10 times in a row to pull
 down all the updates as I keep getting what amounts to transient 404
 errors (may/may not work the second or third time, probably trying a
 different mirror). Just wondering...

You're not alone.  I've seen it, too.  Usually it's while rebuilding my 
bcfg2 package list.  The repodata seems to be inconsistent among mirrors.
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Re: Recent Mirror Drain Bamage?

2010-08-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/19/2010 07:58 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:

 To minimize my WAN traffic, I rsync the F13 release and update mirrors
 from //download.fedora.redhat.com to local repos every day, then yum
 update all my systems using those locals (rather like RHEL's Satellite).
 I've not seen any difficulties like you describe. (I'd be happy to send
 you copies of those scripts if you'd like.)

Your scripts won't actually prevent the problem he's describing.  If you 
sync off of a mirror that's bad, your mirror will be bad, too.

I use mock to do something similar, but it saves a tremendous amount of 
bandwidth, because it'll only download the packages that are listed in 
the kickstart file that it uses for configuration.  It also builds its 
own repodata, so you actually are protected from odd mirrors.  Your data 
will always be consistent.
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Re: Is swap really needed when RAM's aplenty

2010-08-20 Thread JD
  On 08/20/2010 06:44 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, JD wrote:

   On 08/19/2010 02:15 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, JD wrote:

 Problem comes as Michael explains, that when a process needs a large
 physically contiguous chunk of memory, it might not be available.
 That said, usually, requests for physically contiguous memory is only
 needed when wanting to map very large number of DMA pages for
 doing direct physical I/O.
 Otherwise, a process itself does not need to have physically contiguous
 pages. Only the virtual space allocated to that malloc or large buffer
 declaration in a program, is contiguous.
 Why would malloc or a large buffer declaration
 require physically contiguous memory?
 It is done in a driver on the process' behalf when doing direct physical
 IO .
 typically, such blocks of physically contiguous chunks memory are set
 aside during boot.
 I have also seen special embedded linux drivers that provide an ioctl
 to let the process get a set of physically contiguous pages and map the
 space
 to user virtual space. This is for performance reasons to reduce copying
 from user space to kernel space when large amounts of data need to be
 moved.
 This is not a new  idea. it has been around for many years. I first
 saw it in Linux back in 1998/1999.
 Perhaps I misunderstood.
 Do both of the following necessarily require physically contiguous memory?
 char fred[69000];
 char *greg=malloc(96000);
 Would they sometimes require physically contiguous memory?

It depends on what you want to achieve.
If the target device you will write that buffer to can handle a
contiguous physical space of, say ... a few pages, then you
would want to ask the special driver of that device, via an ioctl,
to give you those pages, and map them to user virtual space -
i.e. you would  not allocate them from the heap.
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Re: GDM and XDMCP

2010-08-20 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:09:48 -0700
Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote:

  On 08/19/2010 07:48 AM, Steve Blackwell wrote:
  I want to be able to log in to another computer from this computer
  using XDMCP. Assuming that I have configured the other computer
  correctly, a big assumption to be sure, what do I have to do to GDM
  to show a menu or some other way of displaying the available XDMCP
  computers on my login screen?
 
  I get plenty of google hits on GDM  XDMCP but they all appear to be
  about how to configure GDM to allow a remote computer to log in to
  my local computer and not the other way around.
 
  Is XDMCP even the right way to go? Should I be using VNC? I know
  XDMCP is inherently insecure but this is on a local private network.
 
  Thanks,
  Steve
 I use XDMCP on all of my boxes and
 force only local connections.  Tested
 from 5 - 13 and it works.
 
 
Are you using GDM or KDM? 
If GDM can you post your custom.conf file and if it is possible, a pic
of your GDM screen with the XDMCP hosts shown?

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread g
On 08/20/2010 02:26 PM, James Mckenzie insultingly wrote:
 I have a question:  What does this have to do with Fedora?

it is being used as a router for systems running fedora?

 I've been following this thread with an interest to see what installing a
 software package on a router/firewall has to do with Linux?

dd-wrt is based on linux?

 Give me a clue or take this elsewhere (like a router list.)

you are the list administrator?


of the 16 posters to this thread, your post is only one objecting.

granted that dd-wrt may not be written with an embedded version of
'red hat' or 'fedora', but there are 'fedora' user who are interested
in using and are using dd-wrt.

so, if you are not gaining anything from this thread, why not just add
a filter to your email client to sent this thread to 'trash' and you will
no longer have to follow this thread to see what installing a software
package on a router/firewall has to do with Linux.

i and 15 other subscribers are interested.

have a nice day.

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Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13

2010-08-20 Thread Jim
  On 08/20/2010 11:30 AM, Jon Ingason wrote:
 Hi,

 Have to computer where I run Fedora. One is i686 (Pentium III
 (Coppermine) 800 MHz), 512 Mbytes memory and the other one is x86_64
 (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 1800 MHz,  2 Gbytes
 memory. I had installed F12 on both of them. The /boot (ext4) is 200
 Mbytes on both computer. I decided to do preupgrade on both (F12 -
 F13). Since the /boot is only 200 Mbytes I followed the instructions
 published on Fedora wiki How to use PreUpgrade
 (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade).

 The preupgrade of the i686 went fine. It only did do the first step so
 when I rebooted the computer I only needed to configure the network as
 stated in the wiki. When I tried to preupgrade the x86_64 using same
 method as with the i686 the /boot got full and the preupgrade program
 crashed.

 I have goggled and not found this problem. Have other same problem with
 x86_64 or is there other way to do this without resizing /boot?

 PS The rest of the disk is LVM on both computers.
I have found the easiest way to upgrade is get the latest 
Fedora-release and Fedora-release-notes from the F13 mirrors and  
rpm -Uvh both rpm's into F12 , then do a yum clean all and lastly 
yum upgrade from command line .

It will replace all your F12 rpm's with F13 rpm's and then you Reboot 
your computer into a F13 kernel, and the LAST thing you have to do is  
rpm -qa | grep kernel  that will display all the F12 kernels left 
behind, you do a yum remove  any kernels left behind.  If I use the 
command line and Copy and Paste those old F12 kernels  at yum remove 
it makes it easier.

And very lastly you got a Brand Spanking new F13 to boot from.

I have done a lot of F12  F13 boxes that way without any problems.

Be sure to leave out all the quotes I put in this email.
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Re: Is swap really needed when RAM's aplenty

2010-08-20 Thread JD
  On 08/20/2010 07:36 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 16:15 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, JD wrote:

 Problem comes as Michael explains, that when a process needs a large
 physically contiguous chunk of memory, it might not be available.
 That said, usually, requests for physically contiguous memory is only
 needed when wanting to map very large number of DMA pages for
 doing direct physical I/O.
 Otherwise, a process itself does not need to have physically contiguous
 pages. Only the virtual space allocated to that malloc or large buffer
 declaration in a program, is contiguous.
 Why would malloc or a large buffer declaration
 require physically contiguous memory?
 I have te equally interesting question? Why you think malloc allocates
 memory blocks in the swap area. Do you have a reference for such a
 statement?

Who said what you claim was said?
An OP already posted that you CAN run linux
without swap.
Normally, when you DO have swap space, user-
land data areas (both static and dynamic), will
be backed to swap if and when you run out of
memory and some other process needs memory.
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Re: savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere

2010-08-20 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 08/20/2010 12:16 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
 On 08/17/2010 09:50 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

 I did that yesterday.  No new SPAM markings on my hourly emails, though
 some of my other admin emails are now getting marked as [SPAM], like a
 couple of denyhosts reports.  One of them had a -2.6 SPAM level
 
 I suppose you could post those headers as well, so we could offer 
 further advise.

OK, I have been playing with whitelist_from_rcvd trying to get this one
right as well, but for now, here is the last Denyhosts report I got that
was marked as [SPAM].

 Return-Path: nob...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us
 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on
   kjc386.framingham.ma.us
 X-Spam-Level: 
 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.9 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00,
   SPF_PASS,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.3.1
 Received-SPF: pass (kjc386.framingham.ma.us: domain of nob...@localhost 
 designates 127.0.0.1 as permitted sender) receiver=kjc386.framingham.ma.us; 
 client-ip=127.0.0.1; helo=kjc386.framingham.ma.us; 
 envelope-from=nob...@localhost; x-software=spfmilter 0.97 
 http://www.acme.com/software/spfmilter/ with libspf2-1.0.0;
 X-Virus-Status: Clean
 X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at kjc386.framingham.ma.us
 Received: from kjc386.framingham.ma.us (localhost [127.0.0.1])
   by kjc386.framingham.ma.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7JGobga013007
   for root; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:50:37 -0400
 Message-Id: 201008191650.o7jgobga013...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us
 From: DenyHosts nob...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us
 To: r...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us
 Subject: [SPAM] DenyHosts Report from kjc386.framingham.ma.us
 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:50:37 -0400
 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 
 (kjc386.framingham.ma.us [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:50:37 -0400 (EDT)

SCORE=-102.9
USER_IN_WHITELIST

and yet the subject line was re-written with [SPAM]

In case it matters, here is the /var/log/maillog of the entire
processing of the message:

 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 milter-greylist: smfi_getsymval failed for 
 {daemon_port}, using default smtp port
 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 milter-greylist: o7JGobga013007: skipping greylist 
 because address 127.0.0.1 is whitelisted, (from=nob...@localhost, 
 rcpt=root, addr=localhost[127.0.0.1]) ACL 158
 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 sendmail[13007]: o7JGobga013007: 
 from=nob...@localhost, size=304, class=0, nrcpts=1, 
 msgid=201008191650.o7jgobga013...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us, proto=ESMTP, 
 daemon=MTA-v6, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]
 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 sendmail[13007]: o7JGobga013007: Milter insert (0): 
 header: Received-SPF: pass (kjc386.framingham.ma.us: domain of 
 nob...@localhost designates 127.0.0.1 as permitted sender) 
 receiver=kjc386.framingham.ma.us; client-ip=127.0.0.1; 
 helo=kjc386.framingham.ma.us; envelope-from=nob...@localhost; 
 x-software=spfmilter 0.97 http://www.acme.com/software/spfmilter/ with 
 libspf2-1.0.0;
 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 sendmail[13007]: o7JGobga013007: Milter add: header: 
 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 
 (kjc386.framingham.ma.us [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:50:37 -0400 (EDT)
 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 sendmail[13007]: o7JGobga013007: Milter insert (1): 
 header: X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at kjc386.framingham.ma.us
 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 sendmail[13007]: o7JGobga013007: Milter insert (1): 
 header: X-Virus-Status: Clean
 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 spamd[9721]: spamd: connection from localhost 
 [127.0.0.1] at port 40578
 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 spamd[9721]: spamd: setuid to sa-milt succeeded
 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 spamd[9721]: spamd: processing message (unknown) for 
 sa-milt:492
 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 spamd[9721]: spamd: identified spam (6.2/5.0) for 
 sa-milt:492 in 0.8 seconds, 1139 bytes.
 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 spamd[9721]: spamd: result: Y 6 - 
 ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_99,FH_FROMEML_NOTLD,MISSING_MID,SPF_PASS,TO_MALFORMED 
 scantime=0.8,size=1139,user=sa-milt,uid=492,required_score=5.0,rhost=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=40578,mid=(unknown),bayes=1.00,autolearn=no
 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 sendmail[13007]: o7JGobga013007: Milter add: header: 
 X-Spam-Flag: YES
 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 sendmail[13007]: o7JGobga013007: Milter add: header: 
 X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.2 required=5.0 
 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_99,\n\tFH_FROMEML_NOTLD,MISSING_MID,SPF_PASS,TO_MALFORMED
  autolearn=no version=3.3.1
 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 sendmail[13007]: o7JGobga013007: Milter add: header: 
 X-Spam-Report: \n\t* -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via 
 SMTP\n\t*  3.5 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 99 to 100%\n\t*  
 [score: 1.]\n\t*  2.1 TO_MALFORMED To: has a malformed address\n\t*  1.1 
 FH_FROMEML_NOTLD E-mail address doesn't have TLD (.com, etc.)\n\t* -0.0 
 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record\n\t*  0.5 MISSING_MID Missing 
 Message-Id: header
 Aug 19 12:50:37 kjc386 sendmail[13007]: o7JGobga013007: 

Re: Error reading pen drive

2010-08-20 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote:

 With gparted, you can see the size of each drive when you go to
 select the drive to work on - it works as long as you do not have 2
 drives of the same size plugged in.


Oh that's I check.
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Re: Compile kernel

2010-08-20 Thread Konstantin Svist
  On 08/19/2010 07:45 PM, jarmo wrote:
 Konstantin Svist kirjoitti torstai, 19. elokuuta 2010 22:58:24:

 And it's not really all that much hassle -- and you get a fully
 working
 RPM which you can manage with rpm/yum/etc.
 Ok, understand, but what is kernel-PAE-
 devel-2.6.33.6-147.2.4.fc13.i686 for ?

 Jarmo

kernel should be obvious
PAE stands for Physical Address Extension -- it's a trick to allow x86 
architectures access 4GB. If you have x64 capable hardware, x86_64 
version is recommended.
devel means it's a development package - it has all necessary sources to 
build the package
2.6.33.6 is the mainline kernel version
147.2.4 is the fedora/redhat version of the package (built with all 
patches, etc.)
fc13 means it's a package for Fedora 13.
and, finally, i686 is the hardware architecture this package is meant for

HTH

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Re: Compile kernel

2010-08-20 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 08/20/2010 05:57 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote:
   On 08/19/2010 07:45 PM, jarmo wrote:
 Konstantin Svist kirjoitti torstai, 19. elokuuta 2010 22:58:24:

 And it's not really all that much hassle -- and you get a fully
 working
 RPM which you can manage with rpm/yum/etc.
 Ok, understand, but what is kernel-PAE-
 devel-2.6.33.6-147.2.4.fc13.i686 for ?

 Jarmo
 
 kernel should be obvious
 PAE stands for Physical Address Extension -- it's a trick to allow x86 
 architectures access 4GB. If you have x64 capable hardware, x86_64 
 version is recommended.
 devel means it's a development package - it has all necessary sources to 
 build the package

No, it means it has headers, build scripts, symlinks and other bits
needed to build _against_ that package. Most -devel packages are for
packages that provide libraries and allow building of applications that
link against those libraries.

The kernel-devel package is slightly different - it has the bits needed
to build kernel modules against that version of the kernel (so for e.g.
you can compile 3rd-party kernel modules or different versions of the
modules included in the kernel package).

The packages that contain all the sources required to build a binary
backage are SRPMs (source RPMs).

Regards,
Bryn.

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Re: F13: How to reset KDE user/session desktop to its defaults?

2010-08-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 08:30 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 Some say to delete the .kde4 in the user's home directory
 but on F13, I only see .kde, not .kde3 nor .kde4, so I am
 assuming that F13 by default is probably KDE 3?

Why would you assume that? F13 is KDE 4, as was F12 (and maybe F11, I
forget).

poc

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Re: Pulseaudio error on HP Probook 4515s

2010-08-20 Thread Rick Sewill
On 08/20/2010 11:14 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
 
 
 2010/8/20 Rick Sewill rsew...@gmail.com mailto:rsew...@gmail.com
 
 On 08/19/2010 01:08 PM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
 Hi,
 
 This is an smaller problem around pulseaudio. I couldn't explain
 why is
 so, but I think this is an PA bug. Currently the playback works every
 way but, recording not. When I try to use Empathy jabber voice call
 option to my partner, then rings out with voice, but after pick up
 - for
 an shiny brief moment - the mic works, after that no more - and
 pops out
 an error that couldn't link source (maybe the thread makes itsef
 suicide, perhaps?). After that I have made an second try - I have
 attached an USB soundcard - what is widely usable on many linux
 (it uses
 Cystal Sound chipset). The result was disappointing - here the mic
 worked as should, but I heard no voice in my headphone, nor even at my
 speakers.
 Anybody could confirm this is an bug? Is there a known solution?
 
 
 PS: If needed, I'm ready to debug.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Zoltan
 
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I have an idea about the microphone.

When running pavucontrol, under Input Devices, do you have more than
one port?  I discovered I have, Microphone 1, Microphone 2, and
Line-In when I look at Port: one of those names.  Given where I
plugged in my microphone, I believe I need to have Microphone 1
selected as the port for my microphone to work.

Could you check if you have multiple ports, and try changing the port,
and see if the microphone works if a certain port is selected?
I would try this test without the second USB sound card.



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Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13

2010-08-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 17:30 +0200, Jon Ingason wrote:
 The preupgrade of the i686 went fine. It only did do the first step
 so 
 when I rebooted the computer I only needed to configure the network
 as 
 stated in the wiki. When I tried to preupgrade the x86_64 using same 
 method as with the i686 the /boot got full and the preupgrade program 
 crashed.
 
 I have goggled and not found this problem. Have other same problem
 with 
 x86_64 or is there other way to do this without resizing /boot?

It's not x86_64 per se, but 64-bit binaries are larger then 32-bit ones.
Also, you may have several earlier kernels already installed in /boot.
If so, trying removing some (leave at least one as a backup of course)
and try again.

Also, check the archives of this list where space problems with
preupgrade have been discussed before. Around the release date of F13
would probably be a good place to start looking.

poc

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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net writes:
 I have a question:  What does this have to do with Fedora?

 I've been following this thread with an interest to see what installing a 
 software package on a router/firewall has to do with Linux?

 Give me a clue or take this elsewhere (like a router list.)

It isn't quite fedora, but it is bonafied linux, usually with a kernel a
few versions older than the one we have on Fedora.  Because it is true
linux one gets to use all the same tools (like wpa_supplicant etc) for
mediating the wifi connection.  You can scp the configuration files to
the router and keep current version under CVS on your fedora box.  In
short, it is very fedora-friendly.

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Re: Kmail - Hard-wrapping URLs when pasting

2010-08-20 Thread JB
Jorge Fábregas jorge.fabregas at gmail.com writes:

 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I'm runing 1.13.5 (Fedora 12) and noticed that, on the Composer window, when 
 I 
 paste a long URL it hard-wraps it at the configured word wrap at setting.  
 This is not the behavior when you actually type it (there are some smarts 
 there that will detect you are writing an URL and won't wrap it) but it 
 doesn't when you paste it.  This used to work back in Fedora 8 (don't know 
 what Kmail version was over there).
 
 I've looked every setting and can't find any option for it.
 
 Regards,
 Jorge
Hi,
is that your setting ?
http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdepim/kmail/composer-window-menus.html
...
Options-Wordwrap

Toggles the automatic wordwrap. It may be useful to turn it off if you want
to paste long lines that should not wrap.

JB


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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread g
On 08/20/2010 05:11 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:

16. do i hear 17?


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Re: Pulseaudio error on HP Probook 4515s

2010-08-20 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
I think this will be the problem - I have only one input device called
Analog Stereo. No line in or whatever...

Next?

Thanks,

Zoltan

2010/8/20 Rick Sewill rsew...@gmail.com

 On 08/20/2010 11:14 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
 
 
  2010/8/20 Rick Sewill rsew...@gmail.com mailto:rsew...@gmail.com
 
  On 08/19/2010 01:08 PM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
  Hi,
 
  This is an smaller problem around pulseaudio. I couldn't explain
  why is
  so, but I think this is an PA bug. Currently the playback works every
  way but, recording not. When I try to use Empathy jabber voice call
  option to my partner, then rings out with voice, but after pick up
  - for
  an shiny brief moment - the mic works, after that no more - and
  pops out
  an error that couldn't link source (maybe the thread makes itsef
  suicide, perhaps?). After that I have made an second try - I have
  attached an USB soundcard - what is widely usable on many linux
  (it uses
  Cystal Sound chipset). The result was disappointing - here the mic
  worked as should, but I heard no voice in my headphone, nor even at my
  speakers.
  Anybody could confirm this is an bug? Is there a known solution?
 
 
  PS: If needed, I'm ready to debug.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Zoltan
 
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 I have an idea about the microphone.

 When running pavucontrol, under Input Devices, do you have more than
 one port?  I discovered I have, Microphone 1, Microphone 2, and
 Line-In when I look at Port: one of those names.  Given where I
 plugged in my microphone, I believe I need to have Microphone 1
 selected as the port for my microphone to work.

 Could you check if you have multiple ports, and try changing the port,
 and see if the microphone works if a certain port is selected?
 I would try this test without the second USB sound card.



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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 08/20/2010 01:28 PM, g wrote:
 On 08/20/2010 05:11 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
 
 16. do i hear 17?

17

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Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13

2010-08-20 Thread Jon Ingason
2010-08-20 18:28, Jim skrev:
On 08/20/2010 11:30 AM, Jon Ingason wrote:
 Hi,

 Have to computer where I run Fedora. One is i686 (Pentium III
 (Coppermine) 800 MHz), 512 Mbytes memory and the other one is x86_64
 (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 1800 MHz,  2 Gbytes
 memory. I had installed F12 on both of them. The /boot (ext4) is 200
 Mbytes on both computer. I decided to do preupgrade on both (F12 -
 F13). Since the /boot is only 200 Mbytes I followed the instructions
 published on Fedora wiki How to use PreUpgrade
 (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade).

 The preupgrade of the i686 went fine. It only did do the first step so
 when I rebooted the computer I only needed to configure the network as
 stated in the wiki. When I tried to preupgrade the x86_64 using same
 method as with the i686 the /boot got full and the preupgrade program
 crashed.

 I have goggled and not found this problem. Have other same problem with
 x86_64 or is there other way to do this without resizing /boot?

 PS The rest of the disk is LVM on both computers.
 I have found the easiest way to upgrade is get the latest
 Fedora-release and Fedora-release-notes from the F13 mirrors and
 rpm -Uvh both rpm's into F12 , then do a yum clean all and lastly
 yum upgrade from command line .

 It will replace all your F12 rpm's with F13 rpm's and then you Reboot
 your computer into a F13 kernel, and the LAST thing you have to do is 
 rpm -qa | grep kernel  that will display all the F12 kernels left
 behind, you do a yum remove  any kernels left behind.  If I use the
 command line and Copy and Paste those old F12 kernels  at yum remove
 it makes it easier.

 And very lastly you got a Brand Spanking new F13 to boot from.

 I have done a lot of F12  F13 boxes that way without any problems.

 Be sure to leave out all the quotes I put in this email.

Thanks, I will try this.

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Re: GDM and XDMCP

2010-08-20 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
 On 08/20/2010 09:23 AM, Steve Blackwell wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:09:48 -0700
 Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote:
  On 08/19/2010 07:48 AM, Steve Blackwell wrote:
 I want to be able to log in to another computer from this computer
 using XDMCP. Assuming that I have configured the other computer
 correctly, a big assumption to be sure, what do I have to do to GDM
 to show a menu or some other way of displaying the available XDMCP
 computers on my login screen?

 I get plenty of google hits on GDM  XDMCP but they all appear to be
 about how to configure GDM to allow a remote computer to log in to
 my local computer and not the other way around.

 Is XDMCP even the right way to go? Should I be using VNC? I know
 XDMCP is inherently insecure but this is on a local private network.

 Thanks,
 Steve
 I use XDMCP on all of my boxes and
 force only local connections.  Tested
 from 5 - 13 and it works.
 Are you using GDM or KDM? 
 If GDM can you post your custom.conf file and if it is possible, a pic
 of your GDM screen with the XDMCP hosts shown?

 Thanks,
 Steve

I am using both gdm  kdm.

There was a very hard to locate webpage that explained
how to enable and configure XDMCP for both, but I will try
to give you the run down, best as I can.  I hope I have not
missed anything...

As for security, make sure that you read up online on how
to use X SSH tunnelling if later, you decide to expose your
X chooser to the Internet for remote access.  Also, if you do
this, you have to expose port 177 on your firewall.

Keep in mind that you will get a chooser, a login screen
showing the same background image with the login
dialog with the list of users, exactly as it appears when
you log directly onto your console terminal.

When you use a vnc viewer, the remote access host
field is in the form: host or IP address:last-2 digit-port#

What this does is to choose the port number defining
the window properties as defined in vncserver shown
below, the color depth and the screen size.  This allows
for flexibility for the particular terminal console you are
using remotely.

After you properly configured everything below, a reboot
is required. If there are any issues, be SURE that port 177
is actually accessible remotely and you can use nmap
to check it since it is a udp port. Also make sure that
vncserver services are actually listening via netstat.

1) GDM
/etc/gdm/custom.conf
Add to: [xdmcp]
Enable=true
Willing=/etc/X11/xdm/Xwilling
Xaccess=/etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
Port=177

2) XDM
/etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config
! SECURITY: do not listen for XDMCP or Chooser requests
! Comment out this line if you want to manage X terminals with xdm
!DisplayManager.requestPort:0

/etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
*   #any host can get a login window
#localhost
10.1.0. # Listen to local area network only  == at bottom,
newly added  set your network here

3) KDE
/etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc
[Xdmcp]
Enable=true
Port=177
Xaccess=/etc/kde/kdm/Xaccess
Willing=/etc/kde/kdm/Xwilling

/etc/kde/kdm/Xaccess
*   #any host can get a login window
#localhost
10.1.0. # Listen to local area network only  == at bottom,
newly added  set your network here

4) Services  Server
*** Add to bottom  make sure spaces are single TAB
*** You can add or remove to your taste but make sure that
  if you change anything below, update /etc/xinetd.d/vncserver
/etc/services
#== Added by: your initials
vnc-640x480x8   5950/tcp
vnc-800x600x8   5951/tcp
vnc-1024x768x8  5952/tcp
vnc-1280x1024x8 5953/tcp
vnc-1600x1200x8 5954/tcp

vnc-640x480x16  5960/tcp
vnc-800x600x16  5961/tcp
vnc-1024x768x16 5962/tcp
vnc-1280x1024x165963/tcp
vnc-1600x1200x165964/tcp

vnc-640x480x24  5970/tcp
vnc-800x600x24  5971/tcp
vnc-1024x768x24 5972/tcp
vnc-1280x1024x245973/tcp
vnc-1600x1200x245974/tcp

vnc-640x480x32  5980/tcp
vnc-800x600x32  5981/tcp
vnc-1024x768x32 5982/tcp
vnc-1280x1024x325983/tcp
vnc-1600x1200x325984/tcp
#==

/etc/xinetd.d/vncserver  === NEW FILE with:
# VNC XServer
# Each line should be on one line, starting vnc-
# and ending -depth x where x is the number.
#
service vnc-640x480x8
{
protocol = tcp
socket_type = stream
wait = no
user = nobody
server = /usr/bin/Xvnc
server_args = -inetd -query localhost -once securitytypes=none
-geometry 640x480 -depth 8
}

service vnc-800x600x8
{
protocol = tcp
socket_type = stream
wait = no
user = nobody
server = /usr/bin/Xvnc
server_args = -inetd -query localhost -once securitytypes=none
-geometry 800x600 -depth 8
}

service vnc-1024x768x8
{
protocol = tcp
socket_type = stream
wait = no
user = nobody
server = /usr/bin/Xvnc
server_args = -inetd -query localhost 

Re: F13: How to reset KDE user/session desktop to its defaults?

2010-08-20 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
 On 08/20/2010 10:06 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 08:30 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 Some say to delete the .kde4 in the user's home directory
 but on F13, I only see .kde, not .kde3 nor .kde4, so I am
 assuming that F13 by default is probably KDE 3?
 Why would you assume that? F13 is KDE 4, as was F12 (and maybe F11, I
 forget).

 poc
I was not sure if F13 was KDE for so it was an
indirect assumption, but thanks for clarifying!


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Re: Pulseaudio error on HP Probook 4515s

2010-08-20 Thread Rick Sewill
On 08/20/2010 12:35 PM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
 I think this will be the problem - I have only one input device called
 Analog Stereo. No line in or whatever...
 
 Next?
 

I'm stuck.

I expected to see, in pavucontrol, Input Devices, something like,

Internal Audio Analog Stereo,  ... a button to mute, a button to lock
channels together, a button to set as fallback,

and then under that
Port: I have Microphone 1 selected, other choices Microphone 2, and
Line-In

And then
Front Left volume slider
Front Right volume Slider

and then a bar showing audio activity.

You might have something different than Front Left and Front
Right...I don't know.

I don't know how to proceed from here.

Can others answer if it's normal to not have a Port:, if the card
doesn't support multiple ports?

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Re: F13: How to reset KDE user/session desktop to its defaults?

2010-08-20 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
 On 08/20/2010 08:30 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 Since I am a heavy gnome desktop user, I decided
 to take a look at KDE.

 The first thing I tried to do was to figure out how to
 move the bottom panel to the top, and I tried to
 drag and move it, but in the process, I peeled something
 out from the bottom and I unexpectedly dropped it into the
 middle of the screen...  it appeared as a partial window,
 there was only the title bar and what appeared to be, a 1/4
 semi-window with no content and it was not a complete box
 encapsulation, it looked like two sticks on the left and right.

 I tried to put this panel back into the bottom panel, to
 no avail, giving up, I ended up deleting it.

 I noted that the bottom panel was not looking the same
 from its default.

 What I would like to do is to restore/reset the desktop back
 to a first time user.

 Is this possible?

 Some say to delete the .kde4 in the user's home directory
 but on F13, I only see .kde, not .kde3 nor .kde4, so I am
 assuming that F13 by default is probably KDE 3?

 As noted, I have amarok and perhaps other kde apps in
 gnome so it is perhaps not a good idea to simply blow
 away the .kde directory nor to simply rename the .kde
 to something else and expect to recover my gnome  kde
 configurations, piecewise?  In particular, I definitely do not
 want to mess up my gnome settings, but since I am new to
 KDE, all I care is to figure out how to restore KDE to its new
 user defaults and proceed to learn how to configure KDE to
 my taste.

 Any advice?

OK, thanks for the advice.  I just blew away the KDE panel at
the bottom and reconstructed it.

I have some things to learn, but apparently I have yet
to discover how to move widgets around within a panel
and it seems that it is not possible to do that easily since
the panel as a whole is either left, center, or right justified
and does not allow for float adjustment as in Gnome
panels.

Also, there is that annoying Desktop Folder - geez, how
to I put stuff directly on the desktop just as in Gnome?

Well... I will have to explore some more.

Again, thanks!

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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread James Mckenzie
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com wrote:

James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net writes:
 I have a question:  What does this have to do with Fedora?

 I've been following this thread with an interest to see what installing a 
 software package on a router/firewall has to do with Linux?

 Give me a clue or take this elsewhere (like a router list.)

It isn't quite fedora, but it is bonafied linux, usually with a kernel a
few versions older than the one we have on Fedora.  Because it is true
linux one gets to use all the same tools (like wpa_supplicant etc) for
mediating the wifi connection.  You can scp the configuration files to
the router and keep current version under CVS on your fedora box.  In
short, it is very fedora-friendly.

It did not look that way, but I'll 'stand corrected'.  At least it is something 
that we can learn from.

James McKenzie

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Re: Compile kernel

2010-08-20 Thread James Mckenzie
Konstantin Svist fry@gmail.com wrote:
Sent: Aug 20, 2010 9:57 AM
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: Compile kernel

  On 08/19/2010 07:45 PM, jarmo wrote:
 Konstantin Svist kirjoitti torstai, 19. elokuuta 2010 22:58:24:

 And it's not really all that much hassle -- and you get a fully
 working
 RPM which you can manage with rpm/yum/etc.
 Ok, understand, but what is kernel-PAE-
 devel-2.6.33.6-147.2.4.fc13.i686 for ?

 Jarmo

kernel should be obvious
PAE stands for Physical Address Extension -- it's a trick to allow x86 
architectures access 4GB. If you have x64 capable hardware, x86_64 
version is recommended.
devel means it's a development package - it has all necessary sources to 
build the package
2.6.33.6 is the mainline kernel version
147.2.4 is the fedora/redhat version of the package (built with all 
patches, etc.)
fc13 means it's a package for Fedora 13.
and, finally, i686 is the hardware architecture this package is meant for

Does this apply to any Fedora/RH package?

James McKenzie
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Re: Pulseaudio error on HP Probook 4515s

2010-08-20 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
Rick, here is the pavucontrol input devices picture.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8031/inputdevices.png

Zoltan

2010/8/20 Rick Sewill rsew...@gmail.com

 On 08/20/2010 12:35 PM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
  I think this will be the problem - I have only one input device called
  Analog Stereo. No line in or whatever...
 
  Next?
 

 I'm stuck.

 I expected to see, in pavucontrol, Input Devices, something like,

 Internal Audio Analog Stereo,  ... a button to mute, a button to lock
 channels together, a button to set as fallback,

 and then under that
 Port: I have Microphone 1 selected, other choices Microphone 2, and
 Line-In

 And then
 Front Left volume slider
 Front Right volume Slider

 and then a bar showing audio activity.

 You might have something different than Front Left and Front
 Right...I don't know.

 I don't know how to proceed from here.

 Can others answer if it's normal to not have a Port:, if the card
 doesn't support multiple ports?

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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread James Mckenzie
g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Sent: Aug 20, 2010 9:24 AM
To: fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: Installing DD-WRT -

On 08/20/2010 02:26 PM, James Mckenzie insultingly wrote:
 I have a question:  What does this have to do with Fedora?

 I've been following this thread with an interest to see what installing a
 software package on a router/firewall has to do with Linux?

granted that dd-wrt may not be written with an embedded version of
'red hat' or 'fedora', but there are 'fedora' user who are interested
in using and are using dd-wrt.

Oh, so that's the connection.  Now I see...

so, if you are not gaining anything from this thread, why not just add
a filter to your email client to sent this thread to 'trash' and you will
no longer have to follow this thread to see what installing a software
package on a router/firewall has to do with Linux.

Actually, I have the manual method.  It works better and I don't miss replies 
like yours.

i and 15 other subscribers are interested.

Again, this is something that I did not know about and it looked like folks 
were talking about routers/firewalls and not Linux and problems related to 
kernels.  Since DD-WRT is based on the Fedora/RedHat kernel, talk away, I'll 
just move messages to the Trash on this subject (I don't have a 
router/firewall/switch in my setup, but if I do, I know how use and abuse 
archives.)

have a nice day.

You really should not say that.  It usually means I'll have an ugly one (and it 
started that way this morning about 8 a.m. PNT.)

James McKenzie

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Re: GDM and XDMCP

2010-08-20 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
 On 08/20/2010 10:46 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
  On 08/20/2010 09:23 AM, Steve Blackwell wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:09:48 -0700
 Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote:
  On 08/19/2010 07:48 AM, Steve Blackwell wrote:
 I want to be able to log in to another computer from this computer
 using XDMCP. Assuming that I have configured the other computer
 correctly, a big assumption to be sure, what do I have to do to GDM
 to show a menu or some other way of displaying the available XDMCP
 computers on my login screen?

 I get plenty of google hits on GDM  XDMCP but they all appear to be
 about how to configure GDM to allow a remote computer to log in to
 my local computer and not the other way around.

 Is XDMCP even the right way to go? Should I be using VNC? I know
 XDMCP is inherently insecure but this is on a local private network.

 Thanks,
 Steve
 I use XDMCP on all of my boxes and
 force only local connections.  Tested
 from 5 - 13 and it works.
 Are you using GDM or KDM? 
 If GDM can you post your custom.conf file and if it is possible, a pic
 of your GDM screen with the XDMCP hosts shown?

 Thanks,
 Steve
 I am using both gdm  kdm.

 There was a very hard to locate webpage that explained
 how to enable and configure XDMCP for both, but I will try
 to give you the run down, best as I can.  I hope I have not
 missed anything...

 As for security, make sure that you read up online on how
 to use X SSH tunnelling if later, you decide to expose your
 X chooser to the Internet for remote access.  Also, if you do
 this, you have to expose port 177 on your firewall.

 Keep in mind that you will get a chooser, a login screen
 showing the same background image with the login
 dialog with the list of users, exactly as it appears when
 you log directly onto your console terminal.

 When you use a vnc viewer, the remote access host
 field is in the form: host or IP address:last-2 digit-port#

 What this does is to choose the port number defining
 the window properties as defined in vncserver shown
 below, the color depth and the screen size.  This allows
 for flexibility for the particular terminal console you are
 using remotely.

 After you properly configured everything below, a reboot
 is required. If there are any issues, be SURE that port 177
 is actually accessible remotely and you can use nmap
 to check it since it is a udp port. Also make sure that
 vncserver services are actually listening via netstat.

 1) GDM
 /etc/gdm/custom.conf
 Add to: [xdmcp]
 Enable=true
 Willing=/etc/X11/xdm/Xwilling
 Xaccess=/etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
 Port=177

 2) XDM
 /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config
 ! SECURITY: do not listen for XDMCP or Chooser requests
 ! Comment out this line if you want to manage X terminals with xdm
 !DisplayManager.requestPort:0

 /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
 *   #any host can get a login window
 #localhost
 10.1.0. # Listen to local area network only  == at bottom,
 newly added  set your network here

 3) KDE
 /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc
 [Xdmcp]
 Enable=true
 Port=177
 Xaccess=/etc/kde/kdm/Xaccess
 Willing=/etc/kde/kdm/Xwilling

 /etc/kde/kdm/Xaccess
 *   #any host can get a login window
 #localhost
 10.1.0. # Listen to local area network only  == at bottom,
 newly added  set your network here

 4) Services  Server
 *** Add to bottom  make sure spaces are single TAB
 *** You can add or remove to your taste but make sure that
   if you change anything below, update /etc/xinetd.d/vncserver
 /etc/services
 #== Added by: your initials
 vnc-640x480x8   5950/tcp
 vnc-800x600x8   5951/tcp
 vnc-1024x768x8  5952/tcp
 vnc-1280x1024x8 5953/tcp
 vnc-1600x1200x8 5954/tcp

 vnc-640x480x16  5960/tcp
 vnc-800x600x16  5961/tcp
 vnc-1024x768x16 5962/tcp
 vnc-1280x1024x165963/tcp
 vnc-1600x1200x165964/tcp

 vnc-640x480x24  5970/tcp
 vnc-800x600x24  5971/tcp
 vnc-1024x768x24 5972/tcp
 vnc-1280x1024x245973/tcp
 vnc-1600x1200x245974/tcp

 vnc-640x480x32  5980/tcp
 vnc-800x600x32  5981/tcp
 vnc-1024x768x32 5982/tcp
 vnc-1280x1024x325983/tcp
 vnc-1600x1200x325984/tcp
 #==

 /etc/xinetd.d/vncserver  === NEW FILE with:
 # VNC XServer
 # Each line should be on one line, starting vnc-
 # and ending -depth x where x is the number.
 #
 service vnc-640x480x8
 {
 protocol = tcp
 socket_type = stream
 wait = no
 user = nobody
 server = /usr/bin/Xvnc
 server_args = -inetd -query localhost -once securitytypes=none
 -geometry 640x480 -depth 8
 }

 service vnc-800x600x8
 {
 protocol = tcp
 socket_type = stream
 wait = no
 user = nobody
 server = /usr/bin/Xvnc
 server_args = -inetd -query localhost -once securitytypes=none
 -geometry 800x600 -depth 8
 }

 service vnc-1024x768x8
 {
 

Re: Is swap really needed when RAM's aplenty

2010-08-20 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, JD wrote:

  On 08/20/2010 06:44 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, JD wrote:

   On 08/19/2010 02:15 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, JD wrote:

 Problem comes as Michael explains, that when a process needs a large
 physically contiguous chunk of memory, it might not be available.
 That said, usually, requests for physically contiguous memory is only
 needed when wanting to map very large number of DMA pages for
 doing direct physical I/O.
 Otherwise, a process itself does not need to have physically contiguous
 pages. Only the virtual space allocated to that malloc or large buffer
 declaration in a program, is contiguous.
 Why would malloc or a large buffer declaration
 require physically contiguous memory?
 It is done in a driver on the process' behalf when doing direct physical
 IO .
 typically, such blocks of physically contiguous chunks memory are set
 aside during boot.
 I have also seen special embedded linux drivers that provide an ioctl
 to let the process get a set of physically contiguous pages and map the
 space
 to user virtual space. This is for performance reasons to reduce copying
 from user space to kernel space when large amounts of data need to be
 moved.
 This is not a new  idea. it has been around for many years. I first
 saw it in Linux back in 1998/1999.
 Perhaps I misunderstood.
 Do both of the following necessarily require physically contiguous memory?
 char fred[69000];
 char *greg=malloc(96000);
 Would they sometimes require physically contiguous memory?

 It depends on what you want to achieve.
 If the target device you will write that buffer to can handle a
 contiguous physical space of, say ... a few pages, then you
 would want to ask the special driver of that device, via an ioctl,
 to give you those pages, and map them to user virtual space -
 i.e. you would  not allocate them from the heap.

It makes sense that if a process insists on physically
contiguous memory and can't get it, the process would die,
but the above code does not tell the compiler what is to be achieved.

In the following, would fred or greg necessarily
refer to physically contiguous memory?

#include stdlib.h
extern void hank(char *);

int main(*args[], int argsNum)
{
char fred[69000];
char *greg=malloc(96000);
char *greg=malloc(96000);
hank(fred);
hank(greg);
return 0;
}

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Re: Compile kernel

2010-08-20 Thread Konstantin Svist
  On 08/20/2010 10:02 AM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
 On 08/20/2010 05:57 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote:version is recommended.
 devel means it's a development package - it has all necessary sources to
 build the package
 No, it means it has headers, build scripts, symlinks and other bits
 needed to build _against_ that package. Most -devel packages are for
 packages that provide libraries and allow building of applications that
 link against those libraries.

 The kernel-devel package is slightly different - it has the bits needed
 to build kernel modules against that version of the kernel (so for e.g.
 you can compile 3rd-party kernel modules or different versions of the
 modules included in the kernel package).

 The packages that contain all the sources required to build a binary
 backage are SRPMs (source RPMs).


Oops, brain fart. You're right, of course :)
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Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13

2010-08-20 Thread Jon Ingason
2010-08-20 19:42, Jon Ingason skrev:
 2010-08-20 18:28, Jim skrev:
 On 08/20/2010 11:30 AM, Jon Ingason wrote:
 Hi,

 Have to computer where I run Fedora. One is i686 (Pentium III
 (Coppermine) 800 MHz), 512 Mbytes memory and the other one is x86_64
 (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 1800 MHz,  2 Gbytes
 memory. I had installed F12 on both of them. The /boot (ext4) is 200
 Mbytes on both computer. I decided to do preupgrade on both (F12 -
 F13). Since the /boot is only 200 Mbytes I followed the instructions
 published on Fedora wiki How to use PreUpgrade
 (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade).

 The preupgrade of the i686 went fine. It only did do the first step so
 when I rebooted the computer I only needed to configure the network as
 stated in the wiki. When I tried to preupgrade the x86_64 using same
 method as with the i686 the /boot got full and the preupgrade program
 crashed.

 I have goggled and not found this problem. Have other same problem with
 x86_64 or is there other way to do this without resizing /boot?

 PS The rest of the disk is LVM on both computers.
 I have found the easiest way to upgrade is get the latest
 Fedora-release and Fedora-release-notes from the F13 mirrors and
 rpm -Uvh both rpm's into F12 , then do a yum clean all and lastly
 yum upgrade from command line .

 It will replace all your F12 rpm's with F13 rpm's and then you Reboot
 your computer into a F13 kernel, and the LAST thing you have to do is 
 rpm -qa | grep kernel  that will display all the F12 kernels left
 behind, you do a yum remove  any kernels left behind.  If I use the
 command line and Copy and Paste those old F12 kernels  at yum remove
 it makes it easier.

 And very lastly you got a Brand Spanking new F13 to boot from.

 I have done a lot of F12   F13 boxes that way without any problems.

 Be sure to leave out all the quotes I put in this email.

 Thanks, I will try this.


OK, I have done yum upgrade but after down load of all packages I get 
transacton error:

   file /lib64/libdb-4.7.so from install of 
compat-db47-4.7.25-15.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from package 
db4-4.7.25-13.fc12.x86_64
   file /usr/lib64/nautilus-sendto/plugins/libnstbluetooth.so from 
install of gnome-bluetooth-2.30.0-1.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from 
package nautilus-sendto-2.28.2-2.fc12.x86_64

And I am not sure what I should do now. Any comments?

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Re: [389-users] Script to ingest audit file to database

2010-08-20 Thread Rich Megginson
Juan Asensio Sánchez wrote:
 Hi

 Has anyone developed a script to do that? I need this, but I want to 
 be sure there is no a script that already exists. If not, I will do 
 it. So, is there any library for Perl to analyze that file, i.e., give 
 the list of entries, modifications made to that entries (add, modify, 
 delete, modrdn), etc?
Net::LDAP might be able to handle LDIF change record syntax (as output 
to the audit log).

 Also, could the Directory Server redirect the output of the audit to 
 the input of that script instead of the file?
You could create the perl script as a named pipe.  
http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Named_Pipe_Log_Script - this is 
in python, and I would encourage the use of python instead of perl, but 
I don't think python-ldap can handle LDIF change record syntax (it can 
handle regular LDIF just fine, and you may find that it is easy to 
modify that to handle change record syntax rather than writing something 
from scratch in perl.  Of course, if you are a perl hacker, I won't hold 
that against you . . .)

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Re: [389-users] Variables in ldif files

2010-08-20 Thread Rich Megginson
Gerrard Geldenhuis wrote:
 Hi
 Is there any standard script that comes with 389 that can take a set of 
 parameters and replace those parameters in a ldif file? For example the 
 parameters specified in 
 /usr/share/dirsrv/data/template-suffix-db.ldif
 dn: cn=%ds_bename%,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config

 I can write my own but if there is something I can just adopt that would be 
 very useful.
   
It's in perl - look at DSUtil.pm - the function getMappedEntries()
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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread g
On 08/20/2010 06:09 PM, James Mckenzie wrote:
snip

 Oh, so that's the connection.  Now I see...

if you had read post a little closer, you would/should have noticed that
posters with replies to correct problems would have such knowledge because
as some indicated, they are using dd-wrt.

 Actually, I have the manual method.  It works better and I don't miss
 replies like yours.

lol.

 i and 15 other subscribers are interested.

actually, that should have been 'i and 14'. but who is really counting
when we can all learn something new. even when it is indirectly related
to fedora.

 Again, this is something that I did not know about and it looked like
snip

do i note a bit of semanticism?

 You really should not say that.  It usually means I'll have an ugly one
 (and it started that way this morning about 8 a.m. PNT.)

will take that in consideration of you first post to thread.

so, have a happy kafba. (gbwg)

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Re: Is swap really needed when RAM's aplenty

2010-08-20 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:22:33 -0500 (CDT)
Michael Hennebry henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu wrote:
 It makes sense that if a process insists on physically
 contiguous memory and can't get it, the process would die,
 but the above code does not tell the compiler what is to be achieved.
 
 In the following, would fred or greg necessarily
 refer to physically contiguous memory?
 
 #include stdlib.h
 extern void hank(char *);
 
 int main(*args[], int argsNum)
 {
 char fred[69000];
 char *greg=malloc(96000);
 hank(fred);
 hank(greg);
 return 0;
 }

If I remember my Kerningham-Ritchie correctly, the answer is yes, since
C relies on pointer arithmetic to refer to the elements of the array.
The fred and greg variables are pointers to the beginning of the
corresponding memory area, and referring fred[i] goes to the start of
the array at fred, and then goes i elements forward to end up with the
wanted element.
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Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13

2010-08-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:38:29 +0200, Jon wrote:

 OK, I have done yum upgrade but after down load of all packages I get 
 transacton error:
 
file /lib64/libdb-4.7.so from install of 
 compat-db47-4.7.25-15.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from package 
 db4-4.7.25-13.fc12.x86_64

There's a much newer db4 in Fedora 13 Updates, which should replace your
old one from F12:

db4.i686  4.8.30-1.fc13 @updates
db4.x86_644.8.30-1.fc13 @updates

file /usr/lib64/nautilus-sendto/plugins/libnstbluetooth.so from 
 install of gnome-bluetooth-2.30.0-1.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from 
 package nautilus-sendto-2.28.2-2.fc12.x86_64

What do you get for yum list nautilus-sendto?
There's a newer on in Fedora 13 Updates:

nautilus-sendto.x86_64   2.28.4-3.fc13   updates

 And I am not sure what I should do now. Any comments?

Verify your repository configuration and run some yum (or repoquery)
queries to show which package versions are available.
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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread Darr
On Friday, 20 August, 2010 @12:33 zulu, Bob Goodwin scribed:
There is no other dhcp server in the system. About all I could do
is change a dozen dhcp devices with fixed addresses.  I changed too
dhcp since there were fewer router configuration problems using it.

I have only a couple machines on my LAN that I really
need/want to have the same addresses every time... a print
server and a computer I want to be accessible via dyndns.org
(requires the same address every time so the port forwarding
in the router points to the correct machine)... so I never
really ran into that limit before in DD-WRT.

And not to hijack this thread, but it wouldn't be that hard
to setup a DHCP server on fedora instead, would it? (I don't
want full setup instructions... it must have a wiki somewhere.)

And that should handle MAC-reserved IPs, too, right?

I would likely be happier with that, ultimately, since
if I want to run a transparent proxy I could set the
Gateway address to the proxy server, but DD-WRT's
DHCP always sets the Gateway to its own LAN IP
when it hands out addresses.

Thought about changing the Subject, but don't want it
to bypass anyone's filter.  ;-)
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Re: No WIFI under HP Probook 4515s

2010-08-20 Thread JB
JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes:

 ...
Hi,
here is something users of broadcom wl (BCM4312) had to deal with:

http://www.mentby.com/sean-millichamp/broadcom-wl-with-vt-for-direct-io-does-not-work.html

JB






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Re: No WIFI under HP Probook 4515s

2010-08-20 Thread binarynut
  On 08/20/2010 02:08 AM, JB wrote:
 Zoltan Hopparhopparzat  gmail.com  writes:

 ...
 Still shows no wifi network, just disconnected at NM.
 But the driver is in:
 (lspci -vnn)06:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312
 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)

 Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:1508]Physical Slot: 1
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17Memory at 9200
 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]Capabilities:access denied

 Kernel driver in use: wl
 Kernel modules: wl, ssb
 The problem is doesn't see the ESSID's, just disconnected.
 Or simply just doesnt support this driver?
 ...
 Hi,

 Check your BIOS for anything related.

 FAQ:
 http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43/faq

 Have you examined your dmesg, /var/log/messages carefully ?

 These are the devs of b43 firmware.
 $ yum info b43-openfwwf
 http://www.ing.unibs.it/openfwwf/
 If you need help, send a message to the OpenFWWF team at
   openf...@ing.unibs.it
 ...
 To make firmware work properly:
 $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/openfwwf.conf
 options b43 nohwcrypt=1 qos=0

 You can retry:
 # modprobe -r b43
 # modprobe b43 nohwcrypt=1 qos=0

 and check /var/log/messages.

 # modinfo b43
 # lsmod |grep -i b43

 Btw, please do not top post (on top of previous text) - most people prefer
 bottom posting, otherwise some can get angry and refuse helping you :-)

 JB


If all else fails, As SU do a,  service NetworkManager restart .

I had two different Linksys Wireless adapters with ralink chipsets that 
I could not get to work and gave it the service NetworkManager restart 
and they did.
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Re: Is swap really needed when RAM's aplenty

2010-08-20 Thread JB
Michael Hennebry hennebry at web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu writes:

 
  If I remember my Kerningham-Ritchie correctly, the answer is yes, since
  C relies on pointer arithmetic to refer to the elements of the array.
  The fred and greg variables are pointers to the beginning of the
  corresponding memory area, and referring fred[i] goes to the start of
  the array at fred, and then goes i elements forward to end up with the
  wanted element.
 
 That is contiguous in terms of virtual memory.
 Adjacent virtual addresses do not have to have adjacent physical addresses.
 
Hi,
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6986016/description.html
...
For application (that is, user-mode) programming, standard APIs provided for
memory allocation are malloc ( ) and realloc ( ). In both cases, the contiguity
of the underlying physical memory is not guaranteed. Consequently, these calls
are not suitable for use in cases in which contiguous physical memory is
required.
...
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Re: Pulseaudio error on HP Probook 4515s

2010-08-20 Thread Rick Sewill
On 08/20/2010 01:06 PM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
 Rick, here is the pavucontrol input devices picture.
 
 http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8031/inputdevices.png
 
 Zoltan
 

It appears you have two input devices.

One is the RS880 Audio Device.
One is the Bels? hangforr?? Analog Stereo device.

Please accept my apology for using ? for non-English characters.
I don't know how to enter non-English characters.

I'm not sure what the Monitor of ... entries are for.
I ignore them (can someone tell us what they are for?).

When you run paman (from rpm -q -i paman), it should show
Server Information as the first tab, Devices as the second tab,
Clients as the third tab, Modules as the fourth tab, and finally
Sample Cache

For Server Information, what is the Default Sink and what is the
Default Source.

I have, for Default Sink, alsa_output.pci-_00_10.1.analog-stereo
Default Source, alsa_input.pci-_00_10.1.analog-stereo

For devices, I have
Sinks
alsa_output.pci-_00_10.1.analog-stereo  Internal Audio Analog Stereo

Sources
alsa_output.pci-_00_10.1.analog-stereo.monior
 Monitor of Internal Audio Analog Stereo
alsa_input.pci-_00_10.1.analog-stereo   Internal Audio Analog Stereo

This leads to my questions:
1) do you have alsa_input.xxx... for each microphone input source?
   I would ignore the Monitor of ... entries.
2) On the Server Information tab, what is the default Source when
   you do not have the USB sound card in, and what is the default Source
   when you have the USB sound card.

I still suspect you have to select your default source and default sink.

I did another Internet search...don't know if it will help:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Allowing_Multiple_Programs_to_Play_Sound

Please search for Random Lack of Sound:

 Random Lack of Sound

If you randomly have no sound on startup, it may be because your system
has multiple sound cards, and their order may sometimes change on
startup. If this is the case, then change this section of /etc/asound.conf:

ctl.dmixer {
type hw
card FOO
}

Replace FOO with the desired audio device, as reported in the
/proc/asound/cards file. An example of the file is shown below.

 0 [U0x46d0x9a1]: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x9a1
  USB Device 0x46d:0x9a1 at usb-:00:12.2-2, high
speed
 1 [SB ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
  HDA ATI SB at 0xf9ff4000 irq 16

Device 0 is the microphone built into a webcam, while device 1 is the
integrated sound card. If you've copied the /etc/asound.conf from above
as is, alsa will attempt to initialize the microphone as an audio output
device, but will fail and you will have no sound. Rather than setting
FOO to the number, you set it to the name next to the number, like so:

ctl.dmixer {
type hw
card SB
}

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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday, August 20, 2010 04:12:34 pm g did opine:
 
 i and 15 other subscribers are interested.
 
 have a nice day.

Make that 16.  I've been running it on an old 450 mhz x86 box with 
everything stripped, boots from a CF card plugged into an IDE adaptor, 
headless, about 4 5 years now.  Best kept secret in routers.

Yes, it is linux, busybox TBE.

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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday, August 20, 2010 04:17:34 pm g did opine:

 On 08/20/2010 05:11 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
 
 16. do i hear 17?

Yup, that was me, so 17 it is.

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Re: Is swap really needed when RAM's aplenty

2010-08-20 Thread JD
  On 08/20/2010 11:22 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, JD wrote:

   On 08/20/2010 06:44 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, JD wrote:

On 08/19/2010 02:15 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, JD wrote:

 Problem comes as Michael explains, that when a process needs a large
 physically contiguous chunk of memory, it might not be available.
 That said, usually, requests for physically contiguous memory is only
 needed when wanting to map very large number of DMA pages for
 doing direct physical I/O.
 Otherwise, a process itself does not need to have physically contiguous
 pages. Only the virtual space allocated to that malloc or large buffer
 declaration in a program, is contiguous.
 Why would malloc or a large buffer declaration
 require physically contiguous memory?
 It is done in a driver on the process' behalf when doing direct physical
 IO .
 typically, such blocks of physically contiguous chunks memory are set
 aside during boot.
 I have also seen special embedded linux drivers that provide an ioctl
 to let the process get a set of physically contiguous pages and map the
 space
 to user virtual space. This is for performance reasons to reduce copying
 from user space to kernel space when large amounts of data need to be
 moved.
 This is not a new  idea. it has been around for many years. I first
 saw it in Linux back in 1998/1999.
 Perhaps I misunderstood.
 Do both of the following necessarily require physically contiguous memory?
 char fred[69000];
 char *greg=malloc(96000);
 Would they sometimes require physically contiguous memory?

 It depends on what you want to achieve.
 If the target device you will write that buffer to can handle a
 contiguous physical space of, say ... a few pages, then you
 would want to ask the special driver of that device, via an ioctl,
 to give you those pages, and map them to user virtual space -
 i.e. you would  not allocate them from the heap.
 It makes sense that if a process insists on physically
 contiguous memory and can't get it, the process would die,
Not necessarily. It is not clear what  you mean by insist.
For example, the process could be put to sleep until the
contiguous mem became available. But this is not achived via
malloc or the likes.

 but the above code does not tell the compiler what is to be achieved.
And it cannot. It is not the compiler's job.
 In the following, would fred or greg necessarily
 refer to physically contiguous memory?
No! Not at all.
In older versions of unix, there used to be a facility
for the user to ask for phsycially contiguous mem.
That has disappeared from most versions of unix
and clones.
There are drivers that, upon bootup, acquire
from the kernel's internal interface, for X many contiguous
pages. The driver then manages this pool of pages.
The driver would export to the user process (header file) an ioctl
through which the user process could request a number
of pages, and they would then be mapped to user virtual
space so the user could write to those pages, and when
the write(2) call was made to write those pages, there
would be NO copy from user space to kernel space.
This was done in some embedded linux drivers for some
certain devices to achieve higher performance.

So, let's not beat this thing any further.
You might want to do your own googling.

 #includestdlib.h
 extern void hank(char *);

 int main(*args[], int argsNum)
 {
 char fred[69000];
 char *greg=malloc(96000);
 char *greg=malloc(96000);
 hank(fred);
 hank(greg);
 return 0;
 }


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Re: Is swap really needed when RAM's aplenty

2010-08-20 Thread JD
  On 08/20/2010 12:00 PM, Jussi Lehtola wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:22:33 -0500 (CDT)
 Michael Hennebryhenne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu  wrote:
 It makes sense that if a process insists on physically
 contiguous memory and can't get it, the process would die,
 but the above code does not tell the compiler what is to be achieved.

 In the following, would fred or greg necessarily
 refer to physically contiguous memory?

 #includestdlib.h
 extern void hank(char *);

 int main(*args[], int argsNum)
 {
 char fred[69000];
 char *greg=malloc(96000);
 hank(fred);
 hank(greg);
 return 0;
 }
 If I remember my Kerningham-Ritchie correctly, the answer is yes, since
 C relies on pointer arithmetic to refer to the elements of the array.
 The fred and greg variables are pointers to the beginning of the
 corresponding memory area, and referring fred[i] goes to the start of
 the array at fred, and then goes i elements forward to end up with the
 wanted element.
No.
User virtual space (say 128 Megabyte char array) would NOT
have a correspondingly contiguous Physical space of 128MB.
Each virtual page would correspond to a particular physical
page. But those corresponding physical pages are not contiguous
with each other.


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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread Bob Goodwin
  On 20/08/10 15:39, Darr wrote:
 I have only a couple machines on my LAN that I really
 need/want to have the same addresses every time... a print
 server and a computer I want to be accessible via dyndns.org
 (requires the same address every time so the port forwarding
 in the router points to the correct machine)... so I never
 really ran into that limit before in DD-WRT.

 And not to hijack this thread, but it wouldn't be that hard
 to setup a DHCP server on fedora instead, would it? (I don't
 want full setup instructions... it must have a wiki somewhere.)

 And that should handle MAC-reserved IPs, too, right?

 I would likely be happier with that, ultimately, since
 if I want to run a transparent proxy I could set the
 Gateway address to the proxy server, but DD-WRT's
 DHCP always sets the Gateway to its own LAN IP
 when it hands out addresses.

 Thought about changing the Subject, but don't want it
 to bypass anyone's filter.  ;-)


With my equipment layout that would require installing another
computer downstairs at the modem and wireless router location.
Presently there's only an Apple Mac Pro something, my daughter's
desktop there. If I'm really limited in the number of dhcp addresses
I guess I will have to begin assigning fixed addresses to things
like tv cameras and printers, laptops, iPods, etc. This family can't
seem to function without a connection to our LAN. Getting some of
those devices to work with dhcp was a chore [I rarely deal with
Windows and the Apple stuff is strange to me too], fixed addresses
will be more difficult. I believe the router on order also runs
DD-WRT and I hope to replace this older Netgear WGR614 with it.

I have often regretted the decision to install the modem there
rather than up here in my room, it was simply an easier cable run
using existing holes in the house. Now when I have router problems I
have to string a fifty foot cat-5 cable through the place or keep
running back and forth making adjustments.

Tomorrow I will start assigning fixed addresses to the items that I
can get to easily. Hopefully the new Ubiquiti router will allow more
dhcp client addresses than this router I have been experimenting with.

Bob


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Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day

2010-08-20 Thread Dave Stevens
On Tuesday, August 17, 2010 09:03:28 pm James McKenzie wrote:
 Bill Davidsen wrote:
  Remember the old joke GIF image, with the box which said
  
you have moved your mouse
in order for this change to be effective you must reboot your system
  
   I've been through this discussion before but I have the EAR of RedHat (I
 work in an office that runs, literally, 500 RHEL/RHAS servers).  They
 are the one that said this, when Fedora was introduced.  I ran RH
 7.1-9.1, FC 1-4 and then moved to a Mac.  Due to my work on several FOSS
 projects, I am back trying to install Fedora 13. 

why trying? my install was dead simple.

Dave

 This has all the
 appearances of being a real no-go.  I will try to get CentOS 5.5
 installed on it using information gained here and see where this goes.
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Re: Printing problem on FC13

2010-08-20 Thread Alex
Hi,

 Just wondered if there has been any progress on the printing problem
 with Brother printers, specifically the HL-5070N?

 Please file a bug report in Bugzilla so that the problem can be
 discovered.  Without that, there almost certainly won't be any progress
 at all I'm afraid.

Almost certainly, but not certainly. Turns out I either got the right
combination of options, or it got fixed in the interim of this thread,
but it's now working, and from two separate FC13 installs too.

I used LPD PASSTHRU and Foomatic/hpljs-pcl5e, which looks to be the
most fully-featured of all the available options anyway, so that's
good.

Thanks to the pointers on printing, etc, too.

Thanks,
Alex
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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread Mikkel
On 08/20/2010 12:28 PM, g wrote:
 On 08/20/2010 05:11 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
 
 16. do i hear 17?
 
 
 
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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread Mikkel
On 08/20/2010 02:39 PM, Darr wrote:
 I have only a couple machines on my LAN that I really
 need/want to have the same addresses every time... a print
 server and a computer I want to be accessible via dyndns.org
 (requires the same address every time so the port forwarding
 in the router points to the correct machine)... so I never
 really ran into that limit before in DD-WRT.
 
 And not to hijack this thread, but it wouldn't be that hard
 to setup a DHCP server on fedora instead, would it? (I don't
 want full setup instructions... it must have a wiki somewhere.)
 
 And that should handle MAC-reserved IPs, too, right?
 
 I would likely be happier with that, ultimately, since
 if I want to run a transparent proxy I could set the
 Gateway address to the proxy server, but DD-WRT's
 DHCP always sets the Gateway to its own LAN IP
 when it hands out addresses.
 
Setting up a DHCP server on a machine that is going to be running
all the time is easy. You have more then one choice of program,
depending on how complicated your setup needs to be. I think all of
them can set a fixed IP address based on MAC address.

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Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13

2010-08-20 Thread Jim
  On 08/20/2010 02:38 PM, Jon Ingason wrote:
 2010-08-20 19:42, Jon Ingason skrev:
 2010-08-20 18:28, Jim skrev:
  On 08/20/2010 11:30 AM, Jon Ingason wrote:
 Hi,

 Have to computer where I run Fedora. One is i686 (Pentium III
 (Coppermine) 800 MHz), 512 Mbytes memory and the other one is x86_64
 (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 1800 MHz,  2 Gbytes
 memory. I had installed F12 on both of them. The /boot (ext4) is 200
 Mbytes on both computer. I decided to do preupgrade on both (F12 -
 F13). Since the /boot is only 200 Mbytes I followed the instructions
 published on Fedora wiki How to use PreUpgrade
 (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade).

 The preupgrade of the i686 went fine. It only did do the first step so
 when I rebooted the computer I only needed to configure the network as
 stated in the wiki. When I tried to preupgrade the x86_64 using same
 method as with the i686 the /boot got full and the preupgrade program
 crashed.

 I have goggled and not found this problem. Have other same problem with
 x86_64 or is there other way to do this without resizing /boot?

 PS The rest of the disk is LVM on both computers.
 I have found the easiest way to upgrade is get the latest
 Fedora-release and Fedora-release-notes from the F13 mirrors and
 rpm -Uvh both rpm's into F12 , then do a yum clean all and lastly
 yum upgrade from command line .

 It will replace all your F12 rpm's with F13 rpm's and then you Reboot
 your computer into a F13 kernel, and the LAST thing you have to do is 
 rpm -qa | grep kernel  that will display all the F12 kernels left
 behind, you do a yum remove  any kernels left behind.  If I use the
 command line and Copy and Paste those old F12 kernels  at yum remove
 it makes it easier.

 And very lastly you got a Brand Spanking new F13 to boot from.

 I have done a lot of F12F13 boxes that way without any problems.

 Be sure to leave out all the quotes I put in this email.
 Thanks, I will try this.

 OK, I have done yum upgrade but after down load of all packages I get
 transacton error:

 file /lib64/libdb-4.7.so from install of
 compat-db47-4.7.25-15.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
 db4-4.7.25-13.fc12.x86_64
 file /usr/lib64/nautilus-sendto/plugins/libnstbluetooth.so from
 install of gnome-bluetooth-2.30.0-1.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from
 package nautilus-sendto-2.28.2-2.fc12.x86_64

 And I am not sure what I should do now. Any comments?

You install the two Fedora-release rpm's and you do yum clean all 
before doing upgrade ?
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Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13

2010-08-20 Thread Jim
  On 08/20/2010 03:11 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:38:29 +0200, Jon wrote:

 OK, I have done yum upgrade but after down load of all packages I get
 transacton error:

 file /lib64/libdb-4.7.so from install of
 compat-db47-4.7.25-15.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
 db4-4.7.25-13.fc12.x86_64
 There's a much newer db4 in Fedora 13 Updates, which should replace your
 old one from F12:

 db4.i686  4.8.30-1.fc13 
 @updates
 db4.x86_644.8.30-1.fc13 
 @updates

 file /usr/lib64/nautilus-sendto/plugins/libnstbluetooth.so from
 install of gnome-bluetooth-2.30.0-1.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from
 package nautilus-sendto-2.28.2-2.fc12.x86_64
 What do you get for yum list nautilus-sendto?
 There's a newer on in Fedora 13 Updates:

 nautilus-sendto.x86_64   2.28.4-3.fc13   
 updates

 And I am not sure what I should do now. Any comments?
 Verify your repository configuration and run some yum (or repoquery)
 queries to show which package versions are available.

Here is the sequence you do the upgrade.


1.  Install the two Fedora-release-fc13 rpm's

2.  do yum clean all

3.  do  yum upgrade

4.  Reboot

5.  and yum remove kernel-fc12


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Re: Pulseaudio error on HP Probook 4515s

2010-08-20 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
Rick,

Thank you for helping me - you don't know how grateful to you, but I think
it work that solution that I have found in bugzilla - No. 620189. The user
between us (Nick is: Electron - huge thanks) has purchased an very cool Asus
motherboard. This Asus motherboard has the same vendor chipset (ALC892) as I
have in my HP Probook 4515s - and I have used up the solution from him. I
have ATi RS 880 Azalia / ST-ALC96xx chipset - driven by snd-intel-hda. I
don't know that works on more other brother chipsets, but hopefully this
eases many users life - and it needs to be tested widely on many ALC chipset
where similar problem appears around this family. If this is the
compatibility key in kernel, then somebody needs to pick up and commit my
machine type too!

But the main thing is* works*. My machine has received back the line-in and
the integrated mic. So:

*Step 1*: Create an new file called *alsa-base.conf* to */etc/modprobe.d*
*Step 2*: Open as root
*Step 3*: Insert the following line without quotes:
 options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1
*Step 4*: Save it - and close nautilus, or your fm - and restart the system!

Enjoy.

PS: I think this could be a full post for fedorasolved - for the current
F13.

Thanks,

Zoltan
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Re: VMWare and Fedora 13

2010-08-20 Thread Chris Kloiber

On 08/20/2010 12:15 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:


Otherwise, you need to just run a Type 1 hypervisor, which leaves you
with VMware ESXi Free edition. It's limited in what it can do compared
to the full version, but it definitely works, and works well.


I haven't looked into that much, but I understand you need some serious 
hardware to make ESXi boot. Much more than the typical desktop, anyway. 
Have you gotten this to work on a whitebox (no raid) one random nic???




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Re: Recent Mirror Drain Bamage?

2010-08-20 Thread Chris Kloiber
That would be a pain for the one box at work, and 1 box at home. I am 
seeing errors when trying to pull data from either location when it 
tries some of the mirrors. (Yeah, I'll have to start a list)


On 08/19/2010 10:58 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:

On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 21:53 -0400, Chris Kloiber wrote:

Is it just me, or are the Fedora 13 repos experiencing real problems
lately? I have to run yum upgrade as many as 10 times in a row to pull
down all the updates as I keep getting what amounts to transient 404
errors (may/may not work the second or third time, probably trying a
different mirror). Just wondering...


Chris,

To minimize my WAN traffic, I rsync the F13 release and update mirrors
from //download.fedora.redhat.com to local repos every day, then yum
update all my systems using those locals (rather like RHEL's Satellite).
I've not seen any difficulties like you describe. (I'd be happy to send
you copies of those scripts if you'd like.)

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F13: Warning: RPMDB altered outside of yum.

2010-08-20 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
 I get this message when I either install or remove
a package.  What is it?


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Re: F13: Warning: RPMDB altered outside of yum.

2010-08-20 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 20 August 2010 06:45 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
   I get this message when I either install or remove
 a package.  What is it?


You probably used

$ rpm -ivh something.rpm

to install something rather than

$ yum localinstall something.rpm

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Re: F13: Warning: RPMDB altered outside of yum.

2010-08-20 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 08/20/2010 09:45 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
  I get this message when I either install or remove
 a package.  What is it?

FWICT, it means that something other than yum changed the RPM
database.  Usually this means RPM  It could mean some other software
calling the primitives directly

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Re: F13: Warning: RPMDB altered outside of yum.

2010-08-20 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
 On 08/20/2010 06:50 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
 On Friday 20 August 2010 06:45 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
   I get this message when I either install or remove
 a package.  What is it?

 You probably used

 $ rpm -ivh something.rpm

 to install something rather than

 $ yum localinstall something.rpm

Hmm... the only time I used rpm was to install RPMFusion
and livna.  Is that a problem?

Can this warning be reset/cleared?

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Re: F13: Warning: RPMDB altered outside of yum.

2010-08-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:45:59 -0700
Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote:

  I get this message when I either install or remove
 a package.  What is it?

It's just a warning... when you install/remove/upgrade something with
rpm directly, then use yum again, it's letting you know that something
was modified with rpm. 

Transactions done with rpm directly don't show up in 'yum history' as
rpm doesn't update the yumdb with that info. 

So, it's likely not a problem, but it's probably best to get in the
habit of using yum all the time. 

kevin


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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread Darr
On Friday, 20 August, 2010 @21:21 zulu, Bob Goodwin scribed:

 
With my equipment layout that would require installing another
computer downstairs at the modem and wireless router location.

Hmmm...  I guess I don't understand why you say that. The
DHCP server can be located anywhere, physically.
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Re: F13: Warning: RPMDB altered outside of yum.

2010-08-20 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 20 August 2010 06:52 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
   On 08/20/2010 06:50 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
 On Friday 20 August 2010 06:45 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
I get this message when I either install or remove
 a package.  What is it?

 You probably used

 $ rpm -ivh something.rpm

 to install something rather than

 $ yum localinstall something.rpm

 Hmm... the only time I used rpm was to install RPMFusion
 and livna.  Is that a problem?


That would explain it.

 Can this warning be reset/cleared?


You could try reinstalling with yum. btw, as far as I recall the latest 
yum supports installing rpm packages over http or ftp. No reason to use 
rpm directly any more. :) (except for queries and troubleshooting ofc :-p)

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Re: Installing DD-WRT -

2010-08-20 Thread g
On 08/21/2010 02:36 AM, Darr wrote:
 On Friday, 20 August, 2010 @21:21 zulu, Bob Goodwin scribed:
 
With my equipment layout that would require installing another
computer downstairs at the modem and wireless router location.
 
 Hmmm...  I guess I don't understand why you say that. The
 DHCP server can be located anywhere, physically.

as in, a 'dhcp server' can be queried from any box on a network.

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Re: VMWare and Fedora 13

2010-08-20 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 21:24 -0400, Chris Kloiber wrote:
 On 08/20/2010 12:15 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
 
  Otherwise, you need to just run a Type 1 hypervisor, which leaves you
  with VMware ESXi Free edition. It's limited in what it can do compared
  to the full version, but it definitely works, and works well.
 
 I haven't looked into that much, but I understand you need some serious 
 hardware to make ESXi boot. Much more than the typical desktop, anyway. 
 Have you gotten this to work on a whitebox (no raid) one random nic???

Yes I have. Compared to an older desktop computer, yes you need a little
more serious hardware. This is not a desktop hypervisor.

Ideally, you want at least 1 good quad-core processor and 4GB of RAM.
Two processors and 8GB will start to give you some real capacity. You
also really want plenty of Gig-E NICs (starting with 4), unless you can
afford 10G Ethernet - a couple of 10G NICs will hold you for a long
time. It then tends to scale up from there, but more so in terms of how
many virtual machines you can run as opposed to how fast they run.

I have a server in my church with 4GB RAM, 2 Gig-E NICs, and a single
Quad-Core CPU. I could realistically run 3 to 4 VMs of average size on
it, but would need more RAM to do anything more than that.

Ironically, on the lower end of the scale, it's possible, if you have
VMware Workstation on a decently powered desktop, to run ESXi in a VM.
Virtualizing Hypervisors is done more for training purposes than
anything else. It's not fast, but it works well enough to give you a
good idea of what a larger system would need.

Cheers,

Chris

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Re: Compile kernel

2010-08-20 Thread jarmo
Konstantin Svist kirjoitti perjantai, 20. elokuuta 2010 19:57:53:

 and, finally, i686 is the hardware architecture this package is 
meant for
 
 HTH

Oh, propably asked wrongly. I know all that, what you explained.
I ment, what for is that -devel source, if I can't compile it 
directly?

By make menuconfic etc. When I started with linux 1996, from 
since
I have compiled kernels that way. This moment I don't need any 
rpm
from this kernel, because I know, that there's coming at least 
that bug correction soon. I'd like to test, if there's noticeable 
difference
between pentium pro and pentium 4 optimizion. 

So why is this -devel for, if it's patched already, but you can't 
compile it?

Jarmo
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Re: VMWare and Fedora 13

2010-08-20 Thread Chris Kloiber
Really? Last I knew it would not even run unless it found particular 
raid adapters, or a fiber san connection. Must look into it again...


On 08/20/2010 11:58 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:

On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 21:24 -0400, Chris Kloiber wrote:

On 08/20/2010 12:15 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:


Otherwise, you need to just run a Type 1 hypervisor, which leaves you
with VMware ESXi Free edition. It's limited in what it can do compared
to the full version, but it definitely works, and works well.


I haven't looked into that much, but I understand you need some serious
hardware to make ESXi boot. Much more than the typical desktop, anyway.
Have you gotten this to work on a whitebox (no raid) one random nic???


Yes I have. Compared to an older desktop computer, yes you need a little
more serious hardware. This is not a desktop hypervisor.

Ideally, you want at least 1 good quad-core processor and 4GB of RAM.
Two processors and 8GB will start to give you some real capacity. You
also really want plenty of Gig-E NICs (starting with 4), unless you can
afford 10G Ethernet - a couple of 10G NICs will hold you for a long
time. It then tends to scale up from there, but more so in terms of how
many virtual machines you can run as opposed to how fast they run.

I have a server in my church with 4GB RAM, 2 Gig-E NICs, and a single
Quad-Core CPU. I could realistically run 3 to 4 VMs of average size on
it, but would need more RAM to do anything more than that.

Ironically, on the lower end of the scale, it's possible, if you have
VMware Workstation on a decently powered desktop, to run ESXi in a VM.
Virtualizing Hypervisors is done more for training purposes than
anything else. It's not fast, but it works well enough to give you a
good idea of what a larger system would need.

Cheers,

Chris






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