httpd.worker php support
Has anyone else found a way to run Apache's worker MPM with php programs like drupal, etc. ? I see php-zts provides a thread safe php finally, which is excellent. But none of the php modules will load, which makes it almost useless. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing DD-WRT -
On 20/08/10 22:36, Darr wrote: On Friday, 20 August, 2010 @21:21 zulu, Bob Goodwin scribed: With my equipment layout that would require installing another computer downstairs at the modem and wireless router location. Hmmm... I guess I don't understand why you say that. The DHCP server can be located anywhere, physically. My ignorance/stupidity is showing! Now that I think about it that sounds reasonable. I guess it's another server like the nfs file server. In fact I could probably put it in that box which is always on but gets little attention. Usually the monitor is switched off and only the cats work the keyboard ... It runs Scientific Linux 5.3. I will look into doing that. I am still going to change a few things to fixed addresses, today's project. Bob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing DD-WRT -
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 17:21 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: With my equipment layout that would require installing another computer Or... You install another small router device, one that lets you set up DHCP easily, and sit that between your existing modem/router and the rest of your LAN. That'd use less power than a PC, and have less things to go wrong with it. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing DD-WRT -
On 21/08/10 05:53, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 17:21 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: With my equipment layout that would require installing another computer Or... You install another small router device, one that lets you set up DHCP easily, and sit that between your existing modem/router and the rest of your LAN. That'd use less power than a PC, and have less things to go wrong with it. I have a spare router similar to the one I am using now [earlier version] but I'm not sure how to apply that, can,t have two wireless routers transmitting on the same channel? Might be able to move some devices to a different channel but that adds to the system complexity, need to think about that ... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Upgrade with little RAM
I have a Thinkpad T23 with 512MB RAM, which I seldom use. (It is kept in a holiday location.) It is currently running Fedora-10, which probably shows when it was last used. I tried installing Fedora-13 from the KDE Live CD, and was a bit surprised to find that it started up OK, but then just hung. Is this likely to be just shortage of RAM? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: httpd.worker php support
What does your http.conf section look like then? On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:05 AM, n...@li.nux.ro wrote: solarflow99 writes: Has anyone else found a way to run Apache's worker MPM with php programs like drupal, etc. ? I see php-zts provides a thread safe php finally, which is excellent. But none of the php modules will load, which makes it almost useless. AFAIK few of the extensions are ts, although PHP itself is. I'm using httpd.worker and PHP everywhere, but using mod_fcgid and suexec. -- Nux! www.nux.ro -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
How do I add a password to KWallet?
I have 3 folders in knode. Whenever I check for posts in one of them KWallet asks me to enter my wallet password. When I go in KWallet Manager to knode-Passwords I see that the other two knode folders are listed, but not this one. What is the mechanism, if any, for adding a password to KWallet? I read the short KWallet Manager help/handbook , but this did not elucidate the problem. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing DD-WRT -
Tim: Or... You install another small router device, one that lets you set up DHCP easily, and sit that between your existing modem/router and the rest of your LAN. That'd use less power than a PC, and have less things to go wrong with it. Bob Goodwin: I have a spare router similar to the one I am using now [earlier version] but I'm not sure how to apply that, can,t have two wireless routers transmitting on the same channel? Might be able to move some devices to a different channel but that adds to the system complexity, need to think about that ... All your wireless devices transmit on the same channel. They just don't transmit at the same time as each other, they take turns. That's why wireless sucks as a networking medium, when you have quite a few devices in use on a network with a lot of traffic. With wired networking, through a switch or router, many devices can all talk simultaneously, if they're each talking to different devices. DHCP works by the client *broadcasting* a request for an IP, and the server responding. So long as your DHCP server is accessible somewhere over the LAN, it'll work. You mentioned having a NFS server in another post. If that's always running, it could also be your DHCP server. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: How to reset KDE user/session desktop to its defaults?
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Also, there is that annoying Desktop Folder - geez, how to I put stuff directly on the desktop just as in Gnome? It's flexible in that you can have folderviews for *any* folder(s) of your choice, including Desktop. But, if the classic full-screen Desktop folder is what you want, so be it, just change your plasma activity type from Desktop to FolderView. See also, http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma#Folder_Views http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ/4.4/Configuration#Working_with_Activities -- Rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing DD-WRT -
On 21/08/10 08:22, Tim wrote: Tim: Or... You install another small router device, one that lets you set up DHCP easily, and sit that between your existing modem/router and the rest of your LAN. That'd use less power than a PC, and have less things to go wrong with it. Bob Goodwin: I have a spare router similar to the one I am using now [earlier version] but I'm not sure how to apply that, can,t have two wireless routers transmitting on the same channel? Might be able to move some devices to a different channel but that adds to the system complexity, need to think about that ... All your wireless devices transmit on the same channel. They just don't transmit at the same time as each other, they take turns. That's why wireless sucks as a networking medium, when you have quite a few devices in use on a network with a lot of traffic. With wired networking, through a switch or router, many devices can all talk simultaneously, if they're each talking to different devices. DHCP works by the client *broadcasting* a request for an IP, and the server responding. So long as your DHCP server is accessible somewhere over the LAN, it'll work. You mentioned having a NFS server in another post. If that's always running, it could also be your DHCP server. Ok, that helps to clarify my situation. I've worked around the problem by making a lot of the dhcp stuff fixed addresses, left a couple floating, dhcp can assign them whatever it has available. That leaves only six addresses to be assigned for mac numbers by dhcp. And when some of the other users return from vacation I may be able to change some of them to fixed addresses also. I still have some control over access via the device mac addresses. That give me a means of controlling what the grandsons can do with their PS3 game boxes, etc.. I don't want them playing games on line for fear of exceeding my bandwidth allotment. They ask me when they want to do an update, etc. . Dhcp just makes it easier when I am dealing with Apple Mac and Windows devices where I am always muddling through an unfamiliar setup procedure. Fedora Linux makes it so simple I am spoiled ... Thanks. Bob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Building Android on Fedora 13
On 08/18/2010 09:40 AM, Mike Klinke wrote: Thanks for the FC13 notes! I don't know if you're limiting your How-to to FroYo and earlier builds so the change to a mandatory 64 bit build environment and Java 1.6 in the last couple of weeks may or may not impact the targeted audience of your page. http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/ccde03f40e63c75c/ec8349c5284e754b?lnk=gstq=Java+1.6+1.5#ec8349c5284e754b I was not aware of that, so thanks for the pointer. Very nice to get rid of the 32-bit build environment and Java 5 requirement. Hopefully, it can build with openjdk. Thanks! -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Banshee can not run properly under KDE
On 08/17/2010 07:06 PM, H Xu wrote: Hello, My banshee can not run under KDE. The banshee window closes just after it appears. The following is the output when execute banshee-1 command from command line: [snip] File a bug. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing DD-WRT -
On 08/21/2010 12:22 PM, Tim wrote: snip All your wireless devices transmit on the same channel. yes and no. depends on manual assignment. They just don't transmit at the same time as each other, they take turns. true. first to transmit/first heard. That's why wireless sucks as a networking medium, when you have quite a few devices in use on a network with a lot of traffic. true. With wired networking, through a switch or router, many devices can all talk simultaneously, if they're each talking to different devices. again, yes and no. with a switch, yes. with a router, no. again, first to transmit/first heard. as for wireless: simultaneously, different channels, true. simultaneously, same channel, not true, if all on same channel or thru a router, there will be collision. this is why network interfaces have collision detection. when collision is detected, a random delay is applied before retransmit. if a switch or router has a multiplexing ability, then receive/retransmit will be in an order. for wireless, what is needed, if not already, is ability for each interface to monitor in a delayed channel switch scan mode. when a signal is received, interface would listen for it's ip. if being 'called', it then replies and communications are established. if interface needs to communicate, it would first scan for an open channel, then send destination ip address and listen for reply. later. i need to fondle my figs. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
touchpad issue
I'm running fedora 13, and and on my laptop, I have a synaptic touchpad. When I am moving the cursor around, I used to be able to TAP the pad to make it do the same as a left-double-click. I can't figure out how to make it do that in fedora ( gnome).. Not sure what menu that would be under... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Shotwell RFE: Update version from 0.5x to current 0.7
If you're using Shotwell, please sign on to this RFE on the bugzilla. It would be nice to have the current version supported within the repos. (I've tried building from source and it's a real bear!) Summary: RFE: Update version from 0.5x to current 0.7 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=626044 Summary: RFE: Update version from 0.5x to current 0.7 Product: Fedora Version: 13 Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: shotwell AssignedTo: mcla...@redhat.com ReportedBy: subscribed-li...@sterndata.com QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: mcla...@redhat.com, methe...@gmail.com Classification: Fedora Yorba has released Shotwell 0.7.0, a major update to our digital photo manager. This release includes a host of new features, such as: * Migration support for F-Spot users: Shotwell can import photos directly from your F-Spot library, preserving tags and ratings. * Photos can be rated on a 1-5 star scale or marked as rejected. A filter button supports viewing only photos of a specified rating or better. * A new Last Import page in the sidebar gives you instant access to your most recently imported photo roll. * Sidebar functionality and appearance have been improved with new icons and inline renaming. * Shotwell scans your library files at startup, looking for changes. Maintains library consistency when working with photos in other applications. * Numerous bug fixes and translation updates. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Upgrade with little RAM
--- On Sat, 8/21/10, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: I have a Thinkpad T23 with 512MB RAM, which I seldom use. (It is kept in a holiday location.) It is currently running Fedora-10, which probably shows when it was last used. I tried installing Fedora-13 from the KDE Live CD, and was a bit surprised to find that it started up OK, but then just hung. Is this likely to be just shortage of RAM? Could be, particularly if you used the graphic installer interface. If you can, try 'text mode'. FWIW, I've always had problems installing Fedora from the LiveCD and, so, never use them for that purpose. Try installing from a real install DVD using the text mode interface. It uses less RAM. B -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Installing DD-WRT -
On 21/08/10 12:09, g wrote: On 08/21/2010 12:22 PM, Tim wrote: snip All your wireless devices transmit on the same channel. yes and no. depends on manual assignment. They just don't transmit at the same time as each other, they take turns. true. first to transmit/first heard. That's why wireless sucks as a networking medium, when you have quite a few devices in use on a network with a lot of traffic. true. With wired networking, through a switch or router, many devices can all talk simultaneously, if they're each talking to different devices. again, yes and no. with a switch, yes. with a router, no. again, first to transmit/first heard. as for wireless: simultaneously, different channels, true. simultaneously, same channel, not true, if all on same channel or thru a router, there will be collision. this is why network interfaces have collision detection. when collision is detected, a random delay is applied before retransmit. if a switch or router has a multiplexing ability, then receive/retransmit will be in an order. for wireless, what is needed, if not already, is ability for each interface to monitor in a delayed channel switch scan mode. when a signal is received, interface would listen for it's ip. if being 'called', it then replies and communications are established. if interface needs to communicate, it would first scan for an open channel, then send destination ip address and listen for reply. later. i need to fondle my figs. I believe they are spread spectrum devices which enables them to avoid mutual interference, not that I understand it but that's my impression. Wi-Fi products use both single-carrier direct-sequence spread spectrum radio technology (part of the larger family of spread spectrum systems) and multi-carrier orthogonal frequency-division multiplexing (OFDM) radio technology. The deregulation of certain radio-frequencies[by whom?] for unlicensed spread spectrum deployment enabled the development of Wi-Fi products, Wi-Fi's onetime competitor HomeRF, Bluetooth, and many other products such as some types of cordless telephones.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi I need to buy a fig tree. And I am running the system on the Netgear WNDR3300 with DD-WRT installed. I'm still testing but so far the basics are working without a hitch!. Bob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: touchpad issue
Am 21.08.2010 18:14, schrieb PaulCartwright: I'm running fedora 13, and and on my laptop, I have a synaptic touchpad. When I am moving the cursor around, I used to be able to TAP the pad to make it do the same as a left-double-click. I can't figure out how to make it do that in fedora ( gnome).. Not sure what menu that would be under... Have the same issue on my Lenovo T60. System-upper entry (Einstellungen in german), mouse-touchpad-lower deactivate (Bildlauf in german). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: touchpad issue
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 12:14 -0400, PaulCartwright wrote: I'm running fedora 13, and and on my laptop, I have a synaptic touchpad. When I am moving the cursor around, I used to be able to TAP the pad to make it do the same as a left-double-click. I can't figure out how to make it do that in fedora ( gnome).. Not sure what menu that would be under... System - Preferences - Mouse . There is a Touchpad tab and you click the Enable mouse clicks with touchpad box to enable this behavior. --Greeg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: touchpad issue
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 12:14 -0400, PaulCartwright wrote: I'm running fedora 13, and and on my laptop, I have a synaptic touchpad. When I am moving the cursor around, I used to be able to TAP the pad to make it do the same as a left-double-click. I can't figure out how to make it do that in fedora ( gnome).. Not sure what menu that would be under... Should be a tab under System - Preferences - Hardware - Mouse. Note that the most recent ALPS touchpads aren't detected properly. Tapping works, but scrolling doesn't. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: touchpad issue-SOLVED
On 08/21/2010 12:58 PM, Greg Woods wrote: I'm running fedora 13, and and on my laptop, I have a synaptic touchpad. When I am moving the cursor around, I used to be able to TAP the pad to make it do the same as a left-double-click. I can't figure out how to make it do that in fedora ( gnome).. Not sure what menu that would be under... System - Preferences - Mouse . There is a Touchpad tab and you click the Enable mouse clicks with touchpad box to enable this behavior. that was it, thanks! I can't imagine why that wasn't checked by default... in every other distro I've tried it was the default... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: touchpad issue
On 08/21/2010 01:07 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: I'm running fedora 13, and and on my laptop, I have a synaptic touchpad. When I am moving the cursor around, I used to be able to TAP the pad to make it do the same as a left-double-click. I can't figure out how to make it do that in fedora ( gnome).. Not sure what menu that would be under... Should be a tab under System - Preferences - Hardware - Mouse. actually, it is system-preferences-mouse. no hardware. But that did it! Note that the most recent ALPS touchpads aren't detected properly. Tapping works, but scrolling doesn't. this is a Dell XPS 4-yr-old laptop with a synaptic touchpad.. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Auto save for .txt files
hi, Is there any way to have auto save option for .txt files in Fedora. Means, if we write something, in some seconds (fixed, e.g., 10 secs) that after which it automatically saves the name.txt files while creating any new file in Fedora. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: httpd.worker php support
why did you use worker then? On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:57 AM, n...@li.nux.ro wrote: solarflow99 writes: What does your http.conf section look like then? A mess :-) You can find several howtos on google. -- Nux! www.nux.ro -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Error reading pen drive
Parshwa Murdia wrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: It's working fine, no errors on the drive, only you destroyed the partition table and all data. At this point I would use fdisk to create a partition (see below), and them create a filesystem on the partition. WHAT KIND OF PARTITION? Typically these devices come with a FAT16 or VFAT file type. If you ever want to use it with any MSFT OS then you should do that. Create a partition and use the 't' command to set the type, type 'c' is FAT32/LBA and is probably what you want. Format the filesystem (/dev/sdb1 not /dev/sdb) with mkfs.vfat (for MS compatibility) or mkfs.ext2 (Linux use). Do NOT use ext3 or any other journaling filesystem, as it tends to shorten the life of the media. That should get you back working. But again that doesn't solve because that pen drive is now nowhere working (in any PC with any OS). So it made me to conclude that the pen drive has some internal sector badly corrupted or not possible for repair! What happened when you used fdisk to define a partition on the drive? What error message did you get that caused you to conclude the commands to create a valid partition had failed? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Slow network with F13
john wendel wrote: I've got a couple of boxes connected with wire and a gigabit ethernet switch. With F11 on the sending and receiving sides, I see a transfer speed of ~ 40 MB/s transfering large files. With F13 on the sending box (same box, just new software), I get a transfer speed of ~ 23 MB/s with the same files. The disk read speed on the F13 box looks to be ~ 75 MB/s, so it doesn't seem to be the bottleneck. I'm not sure where to start looking. Any help will be much appreciated. Since you only changed the OS at the sending end, that lets out a slowing of disk write on the receiver. Since you have tested the speed of disk reads and found it adequate, it's likely that the issue is the network code on the sending end. However... do check the speed of reading that particular file. Remember that different parts of the disk are faster than others, even on Linux files fragment, etc. The easy way to do this is: dd if=my.file of=/dev/null and dd will report the speed. You can see as much as 50% slower on inner tracts, so it's at least a possibility. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13
Jon Ingason wrote: I have goggled and not found this problem. Have other same problem with x86_64 or is there other way to do this without resizing /boot? In answer to this specific question, yes there is. You can boot off an FC13 install DVD and select the upgrade (1st IIRC) option. Somewhere in the next few screens it will have radio buttons to install or upgrade. Be careful, the default is install (again from memory). You then get the option to select which install to replace (I assume only one), and let it run. Before sexy preupgrade methods that was the method of choice. I did it from FC11 to FC13 recently, other than taking a while it worked flawlessly. PS The rest of the disk is LVM on both computers. I'm sure there are wonders to preupgrade, but putting stuff on my disk from the network could run into disk space issues and can take a long time if the network isn't fast (yes, there are actual human beings running T1). And it doesn't scale, while a handful of DVDs does. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Auto save for .txt files
Parshwa Murdia wrote: hi, Is there any way to have auto save option for .txt files in Fedora. Means, if we write something, in some seconds (fixed, e.g., 10 secs) that after which it automatically saves the name.txt files while creating any new file in Fedora. Just keep in mind that a file, if open, may be in some state only a mother could love. You really have to be selective about saving open files, or eventually you will save a file which is not in a useful state. That said, you can find files modified since the last save and save them with whatever means you wish, such as rsync. This is an example, remember I just made it up: touch next-save find . -name *.txt -mnewer last-save -mmin +10 save-list rsync -a --files-from=save-list DESTINATION mv next-save last-save Save files modified since the previous save, but untouched for ten minutes, since that improves your chance that the file is in a useful state, retry until the backup succeeds. Run that as a script every hour or so. NOTE: this is one of dozens of solutions, unless the data in the files is vastly valuable I'd just back them all up once a day. That's me, the cost of backup should not be greater than the cost of recreation. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: touchpad issue
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 13:07 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 12:14 -0400, PaulCartwright wrote: I'm running fedora 13, and and on my laptop, I have a synaptic touchpad. When I am moving the cursor around, I used to be able to TAP the pad to make it do the same as a left-double-click. I can't figure out how to make it do that in fedora ( gnome).. Not sure what menu that would be under... Should be a tab under System - Preferences - Hardware - Mouse. No its: System-PPrefeerences-Mouse There is no Hardware choice. Note that the most recent ALPS touchpads aren't detected properly. Tapping works, but scrolling doesn't. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: GDM and XDMCP
On 08/21/2010 12:13 PM, Steve Blackwell wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:46:29 -0700 Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: On 08/20/2010 09:23 AM, Steve Blackwell wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:09:48 -0700 Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: On 08/19/2010 07:48 AM, Steve Blackwell wrote: I want to be able to log in to another computer from this computer using XDMCP. Assuming that I have configured the other computer correctly, a big assumption to be sure, what do I have to do to GDM to show a menu or some other way of displaying the available XDMCP computers on my login screen? I get plenty of google hits on GDM XDMCP but they all appear to be about how to configure GDM to allow a remote computer to log in to my local computer and not the other way around. Is XDMCP even the right way to go? Should I be using VNC? I know XDMCP is inherently insecure but this is on a local private network. Thanks, Steve I use XDMCP on all of my boxes and force only local connections. Tested from 5 - 13 and it works. Are you using GDM or KDM? If GDM can you post your custom.conf file and if it is possible, a pic of your GDM screen with the XDMCP hosts shown? Thanks, Steve I am using both gdm kdm. 8snip 1) GDM /etc/gdm/custom.conf Add to: [xdmcp] Enable=true Willing=/etc/X11/xdm/Xwilling Xaccess=/etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess Port=177 Dan, thanks for all that info but my understanding is that what you have done here is set up the machine to allow it to be logged into from a remote machine. In other words, be an XMNCP server. What I'm looking for is how to set up gdm to allow me to choose another machine to log in to from this machine, or put another way, be an XDMCP client. The machine I have set up as an XDMCP server is a SuSE machine running kdm. On that machine, there is a menu button that allows to to select Remote login as an option which brings up a list of machines that are set up as XDMCP servers. What I'm looking for is the gdm equivalent of the menu-remote login option. I've added AllowAdd=true Broadcast=true to the [chooser] section of /etc/gdm/custom.conf but that didn't change anything Thanks, Steve Oh, ok. Take a look at: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-134481.html -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Auto save for .txt files
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 23:38 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: hi, Is there any way to have auto save option for .txt files in Fedora. Means, if we write something, in some seconds (fixed, e.g., 10 secs) that after which it automatically saves the name.txt files while creating any new file in Fedora. Autosave isn't a property of files. It's a property of editors. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Slow network with F13 [SOLVED]
On 08/21/2010 12:52 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: john wendel wrote: I've got a couple of boxes connected with wire and a gigabit ethernet switch. With F11 on the sending and receiving sides, I see a transfer speed of ~ 40 MB/s transfering large files. With F13 on the sending box (same box, just new software), I get a transfer speed of ~ 23 MB/s with the same files. The disk read speed on the F13 box looks to be ~ 75 MB/s, so it doesn't seem to be the bottleneck. I'm not sure where to start looking. Any help will be much appreciated. Since you only changed the OS at the sending end, that lets out a slowing of disk write on the receiver. Since you have tested the speed of disk reads and found it adequate, it's likely that the issue is the network code on the sending end. However... do check the speed of reading that particular file. Remember that different parts of the disk are faster than others, even on Linux files fragment, etc. The easy way to do this is: dd if=my.file of=/dev/null and dd will report the speed. You can see as much as 50% slower on inner tracts, so it's at least a possibility. Thanks for the help. Looks like the network speed is fine, the slowdown appears to be in scp, which is how I was sending the files. Using ttcp the test the network speed, gives the following, 819200 bytes in 69.96 real seconds = 114350.28 KB/sec Using ttcp to send one of the files gives the following result, 1464370115 bytes in 18.84 real seconds = 75923.92 KB/sec, which is similar (a little faster) to the speed I see with scp in F11. F13 scp gives me 23.3 MB/s for the same file. Looks like I'll spend a little time poking at F13 scp and see if I can improve the transfer speed. Thanks for all your help. John -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day
Dave Stevens wrote: On Tuesday, August 17, 2010 09:03:28 pm James McKenzie wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Remember the old joke GIF image, with the box which said you have moved your mouse in order for this change to be effective you must reboot your system I've been through this discussion before but I have the EAR of RedHat (I work in an office that runs, literally, 500 RHEL/RHAS servers). They are the one that said this, when Fedora was introduced. I ran RH 7.1-9.1, FC 1-4 and then moved to a Mac. Due to my work on several FOSS projects, I am back trying to install Fedora 13. why trying? my install was dead simple. Older hardware. You should try it sometime. I know of companies that are still running Pentium IIIs (I used to work for one.) With Windows, they are no longer supported. Fedora still does (and with a few off-loaded projects you can still run the old time S-3 video cards as well.) The problem is that older Fedora installations miscalculated the amount of vidram and the screen size. Newer ones run text installations. At least THAT is an improvement. Anyway, I do have to run OpenSource RH products. I don't need/desire a support contract, for the moment, on the system. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: touchpad issue-SOLVED
PaulCartwright wrote: On 08/21/2010 12:58 PM, Greg Woods wrote: I'm running fedora 13, and and on my laptop, I have a synaptic touchpad. When I am moving the cursor around, I used to be able to TAP the pad to make it do the same as a left-double-click. I can't figure out how to make it do that in fedora ( gnome).. Not sure what menu that would be under... System - Preferences - Mouse . There is a Touchpad tab and you click the Enable mouse clicks with touchpad box to enable this behavior. that was it, thanks! I can't imagine why that wasn't checked by default... in every other distro I've tried it was the default... For people like me, I like the opposite as I have 'heavy hands' and thus just touching the touchpad will cause it to click. It is a real pain to deactivate it (just as it is for you to activate it.) I guess so many folks complained to Fedora or the driver package creator that they changed this action. Fortunately, it is simple to turn back on. Now to see if my old trackpoint is supported as well(This feature should be non-selectable as it does not have tap-to-select hardware.) James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Upgrade with little RAM
Timothy Murphy wrote: I have a Thinkpad T23 with 512MB RAM, which I seldom use. (It is kept in a holiday location.) It is currently running Fedora-10, which probably shows when it was last used. I tried installing Fedora-13 from the KDE Live CD, and was a bit surprised to find that it started up OK, but then just hung. It may appear that to hang. On these older systems, you might want to minimize what runs on startup. I had a conversation about installing FC13 on an A22p and Robert Doc Savage provided a hint. He stated to disable the Beagle system as it tends to run forever. Thank you for the ram hint however, I'll have to check and see how much memory I have on my old A22p. It may just have the minimum to run a graphical interface (384MB). I might be able to 'squeeze' a GB into it. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13
Bill Davidsen wrote: Jon Ingason wrote: I have goggled and not found this problem. Have other same problem with x86_64 or is there other way to do this without resizing /boot? In answer to this specific question, yes there is. You can boot off an FC13 install DVD and select the upgrade (1st IIRC) option. Somewhere in the next few screens it will have radio buttons to install or upgrade. Be careful, the default is install (again from memory). You then get the option to select which install to replace (I assume only one), and let it run. That did not happen when I was trying to upgrade from FC8 to FC13. Maybe that was my problem? Anyway, I've decided to go another route and let's see if this works. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
faster /dev/random
Is there an approved way to increase the speed at which the random pool for /dev/random fills up? I'm playig with dnssec and getnerating 2k rsa keys is taking up to 3 hours. I've been googling a bit and Intel x86_64 machines seem to have random number hardware built in (perhaps also AMD???) Is there a way to funnel this into the entropy pool? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/ (IPv6-only) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: faster /dev/random
On 08/21/2010 10:46 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Is there an approved way to increase the speed at which the random pool for /dev/random fills up? I'm playig with dnssec and getnerating 2k rsa keys is taking up to 3 hours. I've been googling a bit and Intel x86_64 machines seem to have random number hardware built in (perhaps also AMD???) Is there a way to funnel this into the entropy pool? /dev/urandom is a lot faster. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Upgrade with little RAM
On 08/21/2010 01:02 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I have a Thinkpad T23 with 512MB RAM, which I seldom use. (It is kept in a holiday location.) It is currently running Fedora-10, which probably shows when it was last used. I tried installing Fedora-13 from the KDE Live CD, and was a bit surprised to find that it started up OK, but then just hung. Is this likely to be just shortage of RAM? Well, Fedora 13 works quite well on my old Pentium III w/ 512MB RAM. However, I am using GNOME instead of KDE, which might make a difference. Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: faster /dev/random
On 08/21/2010 10:46 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Is there an approved way to increase the speed at which the random pool for /dev/random fills up? I'm playig with dnssec and getnerating 2k rsa keys is taking up to 3 hours. I've been googling a bit and Intel x86_64 machines seem to have random number hardware built in (perhaps also AMD???) Is there a way to funnel this into the entropy pool? -wolfgang Sorry I was way too quick on the previous. I've always heard that you can get faster random numbers by generating a lot of interrupts. I usually do something like run /etc/cron.daily/mlocate to generate a lot of disk activity. And, as I said earlier, depending on how random you want your numbers to be, you might consider using /dev/urandom, which is a pseudo-random number generator and is a lot faster than /dev/random. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora updates getting more like Windows every day
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: It's getting so keeping systems up to date with current patches is incompatible with reasonable uptime goals. More and more upgrades require a reboot, and even reading the CVE data behind the update it's not always possible to tell if a fix is urgent. I'd like to encourage a bit more detail in the info with the upgrade, and a little more thought about what can be done to reduce reboots. More operations are specifying maximum outage figures, running 7x24, and running things which have long run times and bad checkpoint code. At least two companies are done with reminding people to shut off the desktop overnight, they are putting cloud software on desktops and using cloud tech to offload mainframes. Not just new tech such as s...@home and folding use, but things like PVM. I was admin of a PVM group 21 years ago, but people are still using it. If you subscribe to the package-announce list, you will get detailed emails about updates, like this one: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/2010-August/044962.html This can help you decide if a kernel update is important for you. If it is not a kernel update then it will most likely not require a reboot. Everything else can be made functional through a service restart at most. To some extent RHEL suffers from this as well, though systems seem to have fewer and more stable things running. Same for RHEL too. You get information on pages like: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0046.html Customers also get emails with this information so that they can decide if they want to do an update or not. To conclude, just because an update is available does not mean that you need to apply it. You need to do your own research and decide if an update is relevant for you. And on the point of comparison with Windows, there is none because you cannot really compare the amount of information given out on a Windows update as compared to updates for any Linux distribution. -- Siddhesh Poyarekar http://siddhesh.in -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Migrating data off a failing drive
Hi, Recently one of my hard drives developed bad sectors. I have asked for RMA and the manufacturer has shipped the new drive. I am expecting delivery this Monday. Now my question is, what would be the best way to migrate the data to the new drive? My confusion is at 2 steps: 1) I have an LVM spanning the entire physical volume, created while installing Fedora from the Live CD. So what are the proper sequence of steps to create a new LVM on a new drive? Is the following correct: 1. create a physical volume with pvcreate 2. create an LVM on that physical volume with lvcreate 2) After I have created the new LVM, do I just simply mount it and copy the data off my faulty partition with something like rsync? (my backups are couple of months old :( , so would prefer to keep the latest data). I am asking as I am not sure how the bad sectors might affect the copied data and the new drive. Thanks for any inputs. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Error reading pen drive
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: What happened when you used fdisk to define a partition on the drive? What error message did you get that caused you to conclude the commands to create a valid partition had failed? Yes, it was failed but the pen drive (in which some videos were there, unfortunately which had o back-up!) was formated successfully. And I returned it to my friend. Next day, he says, he was not able to work with that, which amazed me and still he looks for a solution! But the main thing is that it was successfully formatted at least once! -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Migrating data off a failing drive
Hi Suvayu I have made bad experiences with LVM toghether with ext4 and fedora 13. I got hundreds of Jul 17 15:38:05 casablanca kernel: EXT4-fs error (device dm-0): ext4_free_inode: bit already cleared for inode 136800 in the respective logs. When rebooting I also got hundreds of Jul 17 15:38:22 casablanca kernel: EXT4-fs error (device dm-0): ext4_free_inode: bit already cleared for inode 136784 Jul 17 15:38:23 casablanca kernel: EXT4-fs error (device dm-0): ext4_mb_generate_buddy: EXT4-fs: group 46: 9159 blocks in bitmap, 7910 in gd where dm-0 means the first logical volume. Since I have wiped out LVM from the disks, no problems any more. If you still want to keep LVMs, do not forget to create the virtual group(s): 1. create a physical volume with pvcreate 2. create the virtual groups in the physical volume using vgcreate 3. create an LVM on the virtual groups with lvcreate 4. make the file system into each logical volume To copy the data, you may use rsync. In case you encounter disk errors the following programs may be helpful: dd_rescue myrescue badblocks testdisk ext3grep foremost photorec good luck suomi On 2010-08-22 07:08, Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi, Recently one of my hard drives developed bad sectors. I have asked for RMA and the manufacturer has shipped the new drive. I am expecting delivery this Monday. Now my question is, what would be the best way to migrate the data to the new drive? My confusion is at 2 steps: 1) I have an LVM spanning the entire physical volume, created while installing Fedora from the Live CD. So what are the proper sequence of steps to create a new LVM on a new drive? Is the following correct: 1. create a physical volume with pvcreate 2. create an LVM on that physical volume with lvcreate 2) After I have created the new LVM, do I just simply mount it and copy the data off my faulty partition with something like rsync? (my backups are couple of months old :( , so would prefer to keep the latest data). I am asking as I am not sure how the bad sectors might affect the copied data and the new drive. Thanks for any inputs. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
