more than one bridge
Hi, list! Is there a way to set up more than one bridged interface having one physical device? I'm setting up virtual machines and want them to share the same network with host computer. For one guest machine I simply created a bridged interface adding line 'BRIDGE=br0' to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p21p1 (host computer network interface), then created /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0 with nececarry configuration. How to create second interface for second guest machine and so on? TIA -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How To Install Miro Arista In Fedora 16
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Well, I just verified that Miro from F15 will install just fine on F16. So, you can do that. I don't know why it isn't on F16. Maybe a license issue? Maybe the maintainer dropped it? Don't know about Aristra eithercould be a maintainer hasn't stepped forward. In the newest version of Miro ffmpeg is no longer an optional dependency so it can no longer live in the Fedora repos. There's a review request at RPM Fusion for it[1] but I haven't heard from the requester in a while. Richard [1] https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1845 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Boot disk?
On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Jeffrey Ross j...@bubble.org wrote: Is there a way to identify which disk the BIOS is using to boot from (eg disk 0 or 1) when I don't have physical access to the system to view the BIOS settings? The situation is this, I have a machine at a remote location where the system runs RAID-1 and both disks (0 and 1) can boot the system, I need to rewrite the boot sectors on the disks and I don't have easy access to the machine so I have to be careful as to which order I do them. If both disks have identical bootloaders, I'm not sure there's any way from a running system to check which one you booted from. If you don't mind rebooting it, you could add a different arbitrary kernel argument to the GRUB configuration of each disk's bootloader, reboot the machine, then check /proc/cmdline to see which one shows up. That being said, why does the order matter? So long as you do both correctly before rebooting the machine all should be well. In this case it turns out it was booting off of sda (which is what I suspected), I ended up taking a ride down to the datacenter and verifying the BIOS. The original question although no longer important remains, can you tell which disk the initial load occurred from? I did run dmidecode and found nothing of value. Thanks, Jeff -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [SOLVED} Verify nouveau issue
On 12/27/2011 04:56 PM, Steve Underwood wrote: I am using Fedora 14, with the nVidia driver. I just installed Google Earth, and I can't get any Chinese labelling out of it, unless I switch to Google maps mode. I use Chinese every day on this machine, so all the fonts and other Chinese support are in place. OK Finally traced it to a missing font. To get the Chinese you need to install taipeifonts which are Traditional Chinese Bitmap fonts. Thanks to all for their help Ed -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How To Install Miro Arista In Fedora 16
On 12/27/2011 05:19 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: I concur. Still Fedora 16 is too addictive to be not used. Especially when readers want to try it and want to read more about it. My only choice is to use it and find easy ways to do things on it. I never tried 'atrpms' will certainly try. Can you please point some more repos which can be trusted. I am already using RPM fusion and Livna. Be careful with multiple 3rd party repositories. It is easy to find yourself with dependency conflicts. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Verify nouveau issue
On 12/27/2011 05:36 PM, Fred Erickson wrote: I have f16 (32bit) with nVidia hardware default nouveau. I see the word Songshan with the red dot and no Chinese characters. If I hover the mouse over the name MR.WISH is displayed. Install was from Live CD with no extra language packs added. Thanks Mr. Wishthat's something I've never seen -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: more than one bridge
Hiisi writes: Hi, list! Is there a way to set up more than one bridged interface having one physical device? I'm setting up virtual machines and want them to share the same network with host computer. For one guest machine I simply created a bridged interface adding line 'BRIDGE=br0' to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p21p1 (host computer network interface), then created /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0 with nececarry configuration. How to create second interface for second guest machine and so on? Add the second machine to the same bridge. pgpGK1mE0qha7.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [SOLVED} Verify nouveau issue
On 27/12/11 10:18, Ed Greshko wrote: OK Finally traced it to a missing font. To get the Chinese you need to install taipeifonts which are Traditional Chinese Bitmap fonts. Thanks to all for their help Ed Hi Ed, Maybe put in alink to the font\rpm, for future generations? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Verify nouveau issue
On 12/27/2011 05:36 PM, Fred Erickson wrote: I have f16 (32bit) with nVidia hardware default nouveau. I see the word Songshan with the red dot and no Chinese characters. If I hover the mouse over the name MR.WISH is displayed. Install was from Live CD with no extra language packs added. Fred Oh, I see where you get MR. WISH. You have Places also checked and there happens to be a few places hiding below the district name. One of them is MR. WISH. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Getting Usable video with nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)
I've got a classroom amd64 FX 2600 CPU and nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1) video cards that are currently running Fedora 14 with the nvidia driver from rpmfusion. Looking to upgrade these to Fedora 16 and have gotten everything but the video working ok on a test machine. Have found a number of bug reports on the 5200 and 5500 cards, and the rpmfusion doesn't seem to support cards older than 6000. The windows will open, but don't seem to have the close, maximize or minimize buttons. Used gnome-tweak-tool, and it works on another machine with a RS690 just as I expect. This is the only computer lab that has Linux on the campus, and use it to at least show the students what linux can do . lspci report on the classroom machine. 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1) Another test machine I recently bought on Ebay that works fine. 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 Series] -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How To Install Miro Arista In Fedora 16
On 12/27/2011 05:59 AM, Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2011-12-27 at 01:17 +0100, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: Sorry for the sweeping generalizations, but: Your last couple posts ar saying, in effect, in Ubuntu, I used $METHOD to accomplish $USER_TASK. How can Fedora replicate the $METHOD I used in Ubuntu? Hi Pete, You might run into some trouble, because the two distributions have different $METHODS. There is an important distinction to be made between the end goal (putting videos on a tablet) and the method used to do it (installing Miro, for example.) I'm concerned that instead of reviewing Fedora, you will end up reviewing your ability to turn Fedora into Ubuntu. Your struggle with the apparently unneeded fedora-utils and proprietary nvidia drivers are evidence of the kind of bias I hope your writing doesn't include. I totally understand and admit that coming for Ubuntu I have migrated quite a lot of users from Windows to GNU/Linux. These are average users who don't know much about computers and don't need to. So, I am looking for ways how to help them and help me in using Fedora. I am trying to avoid every possible scope for any flameware here as that's not the goal. I am new to fedora and of course I will look at it from the point I am familiar with. I am learning every day. For example now I managed to make my dual monitor work without installing Nvidia drivers. I also understand that Fedora's audience may be different than the Ubuntu's audience. This is an area where I am confused. I think Fedora is targeted at more advanced users, so I will refrain from recommending it to average users. I was under impression that may be due to recent marketing on fedora home page the target audience changed. I have not spoken with any Fedora guy for ages ever since I stopped working for the LFY magazine. Fedora is committed to using free software that isn't encumbered by various copyrights/licenses. This page may be useful in terms of understanding Fedora philosphy regarding many of the things you are interested in. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items Some of them are indeed handled by third party repositories such as rpmfusion, atrpms and others. I concur. Still Fedora 16 is too addictive to be not used. Especially when readers want to try it and want to read more about it. My only choice is to use it and find easy ways to do things on it. I never tried 'atrpms' will certainly try. Can you please point some more repos which can be trusted. I am already using RPM fusion and Livna. Best Swapnil -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How To Install Miro Arista In Fedora 16
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 10:19:25 +0100 Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote: I concur. Still Fedora 16 is too addictive to be not used. Especially when readers want to try it and want to read more about it. My only choice is to use it and find easy ways to do things on it. I never tried 'atrpms' will certainly try. Can you please point some more repos which can be trusted. I am already using RPM fusion and Livna. Best Swapnil Swapnil: These guides have always worked for me: ttp://www.mjmwired.net/resources/ -- cmg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Sorting Shotwell files..? people bugs.. resizing icons in home-dir..?
On 12/27/2011 08:25 PM, Tim wrote: I'm beginning to think the lpeng poster is another deliberate time waster, or another persona of one of the fruitcakes on this list throwing a tantrum. I can see quite a few empty postings this week. Even though there have been reports of the same issue with this mailid on other lists, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that it was deliberate. As has been noted he is using iPhone Mail and he is locate in China. Also, as I mentioned earlier, since gmail has this wonderful feature of not showing email from you that come through mailing lists it is perfectly reasonable he had no clue as to what was happening and considering the types of messages he was getting and potentially his lack of English skills... Well, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. On that note, I did send him an email off list and explained to him the situation. My wife wasn't home, so I could not get it to the person in Chinese. But, after I did we haven't seen any more of his responses. So, maybe it is fixed. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: grub2
On 12/26/2011 05:32 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, I updated from fedora14 to fedora16 and I am trying to modify the grub boat loader. I do not have an internet connection, so I expect some guidances from the list. info grub2 did not help me much. I understand that I have to a rebuild a grub.cfg file, but how? grub2-mkconfig can do it, but how do I modify the boot options? For example I which to remove the quiet and rhgb options from the boot command (not at each boot). Thank for your help. grub2-mkconfig /etc/grub2.cfg (should be a link to /boot/grub2/grub.cfg I think). That will make you a grub2 config file. Kevin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to uninstall nvidia drivers in runlevel3
On 12/26/2011 06:22 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote: On 12/26/2011 05:07 PM, Pete Travis wrote: On Dec 26, 2011 2:07 PM, Lawrence Graves lgrave...@gmail.com mailto:lgrave...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to do an update on my Dell 9400 Inspiron which is running 275.43 nvidia drivers. Is there a command that will allow me this option if need. Please help. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org You don't need to worry about it unless there is a kernel update, at which point you should reinstall the drivers so they build against the new kernel. IIRC, that's. '/NVIDIA.RUN --uninstall ' Try the kmod again while you have the nvidia ones uninstalled, if you like. I still haven't read where the default drivers were inadequate for you I am going to do this for you Pete, and pray it works. I haven't tried this way before. I have install Fedora 16 on my laptop about 30 times trying to get the 290.10 nvidia drivers from rpmfusion to installed but I never tried it this way. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. After installing the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com you will need to recompile them against the kernel if you've updated it. You can do this by rerunning the nvidia-installer in runlevel3. Then you change to runlevel5 and the nvidia driver will load. We (Lawrence and I) went around and around with the kmod/akmod stuff with the 290.10 driver and it *just wouldn't work* (he could *never* get an X screen). Once there is a kmod/akmod for th 275.43 driver then I would suggest going back to that solution so he can update his kernel at will. Until then, if he wants a working X, he's going to have to go about it this way. Kevin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Gnome3 RFE discussion !?
On Tuesday 27 December 2011 11:06:48 William Case wrote: I want to go forward not back. I would like to see Gnome get rid of all panels, task bars, and extraneous doodads in my work spaces. I want instead to use dockers, multiple dockers that I can call up by short cut key, mouse motion or from the activities space. I would like the dockers to have all the properties of a file, an icon, a launcher and a panel or several different panels. I want to be able to create a new different docker on the Activities window, place launchers and files in the docker and name it. That way I can have a main application running in a work space but also a docker that contains subsidiary programs that I use often while working in that application. I can then design or load dockers that would have applications or what used to be applets that are apropos to the type of work I was doing and/or the main application I was using. I would have several different kinds of dockers these created by me to pick and choose from. I would like the dockers to be made visible on my desktop/workspace the same way I can make a main program visible. I.E. drag and drop it in a workspace in the activities window. I would like the docker to appear on my workspace as a small icon that could be opened like a file to see all of the subsidiary applications or functions I have available to me. I would like the docker not to be restricted to a bar shape, but be able to re-size and re-shape it much the same way as a application window by grabbing the edges or bottom right corner. There are many other considerations that could go into this design, but essentially I would like to get rid of the desktop metaphor and instead make my workspaces project and work oriented. I do more than one kind of thing on my computer. I want to be able to easily write an article in LibreOffice using all my tools such as dictionary, thesaurus and character map for writing. Then, say, switch to something completely unrelated like working with music or photographs in another workspace and have a docker for each of those that contained music subsidiary applications, or browsing the internet. I would like to have a docker where I kept all my system tools. The menu would serve me as the place to find the items I wanted to put in my various dockers or to store programs seldom used. Is anybody interested in this kind of concept and/or discussion? Well, all that (and more!) actually already exists --- it's called KDE4. :-D Without going into any details, essentially everything you have described above can be achieved with some basic customizations of the KDE's Activities infrastructure, which was designed precisely for such purposes (multiple working environments, context-dependent desktops, customizable docks/panels/launchers, etc.). Why are you trying to use Gnome3 to (re)create this kind of environment? Best, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: grub2
Around 11:32pm on Monday, December 26, 2011 (UK time), Patrick Dupre scrawled: I understand that I have to a rebuild a grub.cfg file, but how? grub2-mkconfig can do it, but how do I modify the boot options? For example I which to remove the quiet and rhgb options from the boot command (not at each boot). From my own Fedora installation instructions: Edit /etc/default/grub and make the following changes. change GRUB_TIMEOUT to 30. delete quiet and rhgb from the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX line. Run grub2-mkconfig to regenerate the grub config file. Then set the default grub entry to 0. # grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg # grub2-set-default 0 I'm not sure why I needed to do the last bit, but found it was necessary for the latest kernel to be selected by default. Steve -- Website: www.stevesearle.com Twitter: @ReddishShift Facebook: www.facebook.com/steve.searle 11:16:59 up 2 days, 23:04, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.05, 0.09 pgpRzxqC8lIJD.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Gnome3 RFE discussion !?
On 12/28/2011 01:06 AM, William Case wrote: Is anybody interested in this kind of concept and/or discussion? This sounds a lot like the original KDE4 plasma concept -- but it was rebelled against a bit back then, so a few things stayed traditionalish, though you can elect to ditch everything but the plasma workspace things and work just from a really naked space like how you're talking. It would probably be easier to implement there than in Gnome3, considering the core concepts are mostly already present. Perhaps someone more knowledgable about KDE's underlying bits can tell me how far off I am...? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: more than one bridge
On 27 December 2011 17:13, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: No, because that would make no sense whatsoever. Having a bridge means that any network traffic received by any bridged interface is also received by every other one. With the same interface on multiple bridges, because it receives all network traffic on one bridge, and because it is also on a second bridge, means that all interface on the other bridge also receive the same network traffic. Which is exactly the same as if there was one bridge in the first place. I see. Thank you. -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Verify nouveau issue
On Tue, 2011-12-27 at 16:23 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: I only have one system with nVidia display hardware. Currently running F16 and nouveau since I've not yet gotten the courage to install the nVidia drivers. :-) I'm looking for someone running F16 with the nVidia drivers and Google Earth. To verify the following... If you go to 25 3.300 N, 121 33.257 E and under More in the Layers section have the Local Place Names checked, you should see a red dot and the word Songshan and beside it 松山區 in Traditional Chinese. I believe that with the nVidia drivers the Chinese is displayed. With nouveau it isn't...at least not on my system. Thanks I have f16 (32bit) with nVidia hardware default nouveau. I see the word Songshan with the red dot and no Chinese characters. If I hover the mouse over the name MR.WISH is displayed. Install was from Live CD with no extra language packs added. Fred -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Verify nouveau issue
On 12/27/2011 04:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I only have one system with nVidia display hardware. Currently running F16 and nouveau since I've not yet gotten the courage to install the nVidia drivers. :-) I'm looking for someone running F16 with the nVidia drivers and Google Earth. To verify the following... If you go to 25 3.300 N, 121 33.257 E and under More in the Layers section have the Local Place Names checked, you should see a red dot and the word Songshan and beside it 松山區 in Traditional Chinese. I believe that with the nVidia drivers the Chinese is displayed. With nouveau it isn't...at least not on my system. Thanks I am using Fedora 14, with the nVidia driver. I just installed Google Earth, and I can't get any Chinese labelling out of it, unless I switch to Google maps mode. I use Chinese every day on this machine, so all the fonts and other Chinese support are in place. Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Verify nouveau issue
I only have one system with nVidia display hardware. Currently running F16 and nouveau since I've not yet gotten the courage to install the nVidia drivers. :-) I'm looking for someone running F16 with the nVidia drivers and Google Earth. To verify the following... If you go to 25 3.300 N, 121 33.257 E and under More in the Layers section have the Local Place Names checked, you should see a red dot and the word Songshan and beside it 松山區 in Traditional Chinese. I believe that with the nVidia drivers the Chinese is displayed. With nouveau it isn't...at least not on my system. Thanks -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Sorting Shotwell files..? people bugs.. resizing icons in home-dir..?
On Mon, 2011-12-26 at 12:18 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2011-12-27 at 00:04 +0800, lpeng...@gmail.com wrote: [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 OK, you have a *very* obsolete version of Fedora. Is there something you want to ask? Umm, actually that's *my* signature. The only thing they did in their post, beyond hit reply, was copy my signature into the top part of the message. I still use 9 on this laptop, because it suits me. I tried 11 on it, and found that a bit of a pain, and a bit of an improvement, but not enough to update it. I've got 16 on a desktop, but I find that a very large pain. I'm beginning to wonder if I can find an update that I'm going to be happy with. And, yes, I have been trying out other desktops / windows managers than Gnome and KDE. What I like is Gnome 2. I'm beginning to think the lpeng poster is another deliberate time waster, or another persona of one of the fruitcakes on this list throwing a tantrum. I can see quite a few empty postings this week. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: more than one bridge
On 27/12/11 12:59, Hiisi wrote: Thanks, I've already did it. But theoretically, is it possible to create more than one bridge on one interface? Hi Hilsi, I put all guest machines on the same subnet, and they share the same physical eth0 on the host. That was using Virt-Manager. So am guesssing it's possible by other methods. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: more than one bridge
Hiisi writes: On 27 December 2011 15:49, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Hiisi writes: Hi, list! Is there a way to set up more than one bridged interface having one physical device? I'm setting up virtual machines and want them to share the same network with host computer. For one guest machine I simply created a bridged interface adding line 'BRIDGE=br0' to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p21p1 (host computer network interface), then created /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0 with nececarry configuration. How to create second interface for second guest machine and so on? Add the second machine to the same bridge. Hi, Sam! Thanks, I've already did it. But theoretically, is it possible to create more than one bridge on one interface? No, because that would make no sense whatsoever. Having a bridge means that any network traffic received by any bridged interface is also received by every other one. With the same interface on multiple bridges, because it receives all network traffic on one bridge, and because it is also on a second bridge, means that all interface on the other bridge also receive the same network traffic. Which is exactly the same as if there was one bridge in the first place. pgpR2ONEjUJZJ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [SOLVED} Verify nouveau issue
On 12/27/2011 06:25 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: Maybe put in alink to the font\rpm, for future generations? What I will do is contact the google earth folks. They already pull in a few dependencies. I'll suggest they add this one to improve customer satisfaction. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Problem with email program of lpeng564
I ran a test. I sent e-mail to this user. As you can see below it came back to me as sent without and comments from lpeng564. I conclude there is a misconfiguration of his mail program that echoes what is sent to him. Forwarded Message From: lpeng...@gmail.com lpeng...@gmail.com To: Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: SSH on Fedora 16 Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 08:46:44 +0800 lpeng...@gmail.com 在 2011-12-27，5:31，Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net 写道： On Tue, 2011-12-27 at 04:24 +0800, lpeng...@gmail.com wrote: lpeng...@gmail.com Why do you keep sendng replies to the list with no comments from you. -- === Maj. Bloodnok: Seagoon, you're a coward! Seagoon: Only in the holiday season. Maj. Bloodnok: Ah, another Noel Coward! === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- === A certain amount of opposition is a help, not a hindrance. Kites rise against the wind, not with it. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Verify nouveau issue
On 12/27/2011 04:56 PM, Steve Underwood wrote: I am using Fedora 14, with the nVidia driver. I just installed Google Earth, and I can't get any Chinese labelling out of it, unless I switch to Google maps mode. I use Chinese every day on this machine, so all the fonts and other Chinese support are in place. Hummm. Strange. When I had F15 and nVidia drivers I had Chinese just fine. Thanks for checkingand adding to the mystery. :-) -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: more than one bridge
On 27 December 2011 15:49, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Hiisi writes: Hi, list! Is there a way to set up more than one bridged interface having one physical device? I'm setting up virtual machines and want them to share the same network with host computer. For one guest machine I simply created a bridged interface adding line 'BRIDGE=br0' to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p21p1 (host computer network interface), then created /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0 with nececarry configuration. How to create second interface for second guest machine and so on? Add the second machine to the same bridge. Hi, Sam! Thanks, I've already did it. But theoretically, is it possible to create more than one bridge on one interface? -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Gnome3 RFE discussion !?
Hi; I am looking for suggestions of where I can get this conversation going with some people who would like to participate in such a conversation. I have tried the Gnome users list but no takers. My interest is in exploring the ideas expressed here before taking them forward as a request for enhancement. I want to go forward not back. I would like to see Gnome get rid of all panels, task bars, and extraneous doodads in my work spaces. I want instead to use dockers, multiple dockers that I can call up by short cut key, mouse motion or from the activities space. I would like the dockers to have all the properties of a file, an icon, a launcher and a panel or several different panels. I want to be able to create a new different docker on the Activities window, place launchers and files in the docker and name it. That way I can have a main application running in a work space but also a docker that contains subsidiary programs that I use often while working in that application. I can then design or load dockers that would have applications or what used to be applets that are apropos to the type of work I was doing and/or the main application I was using. I would have several different kinds of dockers these created by me to pick and choose from. I would like the dockers to be made visible on my desktop/workspace the same way I can make a main program visible. I.E. drag and drop it in a workspace in the activities window. I would like the docker to appear on my workspace as a small icon that could be opened like a file to see all of the subsidiary applications or functions I have available to me. I would like the docker not to be restricted to a bar shape, but be able to re-size and re-shape it much the same way as a application window by grabbing the edges or bottom right corner. There are many other considerations that could go into this design, but essentially I would like to get rid of the desktop metaphor and instead make my workspaces project and work oriented. I do more than one kind of thing on my computer. I want to be able to easily write an article in LibreOffice using all my tools such as dictionary, thesaurus and character map for writing. Then, say, switch to something completely unrelated like working with music or photographs in another workspace and have a docker for each of those that contained music subsidiary applications, or browsing the internet. I would like to have a docker where I kept all my system tools. The menu would serve me as the place to find the items I wanted to put in my various dockers or to store programs seldom used. Is anybody interested in this kind of concept and/or discussion? -- Regards Bill Fedora 15, Gnome 3.0.2 Evo.3.0.2, Emacs 23.2.1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
What permisson to change?
Hi, I installed VirtualBox-OSE.x86_644.1.6-4.fc16 @rpmfusion-free-updates on a new machine with F16. For testing purpose I defined a machine and on boot I got the message: Fail to open a sesion for Virtual machine WinVista64_A. Failed to load VMMR0.r0 (VERR-SUPLIB_OWNER_NOT_ROOT). Any help would be well come. Thanks, -- Lucélio Gomes de Freitas ETFCSF= U.G.F.= P.U.C.(RJ) Engº, Analista Suporte(Free Mind). Email: aa.luce...@gmail.com Tel: 55 0XX 21 85964911 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What permisson to change?
On 12/27/2011 02:44 PM, Lucélio Gomes de Freitas wrote: Hi, I installed VirtualBox-OSE.x86_644.1.6-4.fc16 @rpmfusion-free-updates on a new machine with F16. For testing purpose I defined a machine and on boot I got the message: Fail to open a sesion for Virtual machine WinVista64_A. Failed to load VMMR0.r0 (VERR-SUPLIB_OWNER_NOT_ROOT). Any help would be well come. Thanks, Add your account to the group vboxusers, then logout and log back in. -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What permisson to change?
On 12/27/2011 03:27 PM, Lucélio Gomes de Freitas wrote: Steven Stern, Thanks for your reply. Em 27-12-2011 12:48, Steven Stern escreveu: On 12/27/2011 02:44 PM, Lucélio Gomes de Freitas wrote: Hi, I installed VirtualBox-OSE.x86_644.1.6-4.fc16 @rpmfusion-free-updates on a new machine with F16. For testing purpose I defined a machine and on boot I got the message: Fail to open a sesion for Virtual machine WinVista64_A. Failed to load VMMR0.r0 (VERR-SUPLIB_OWNER_NOT_ROOT). Any help would be well come. Thanks, Add your account to the group vboxusers, then logout and log back in. I did this(take out of the group logout/in + add to the group logout/in) and unfortunately nothing changed. The same messages again. Ps: I tested this before. Check this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/%5Bf14%5D-virtualbox-ose-4-0-2-verr_suplib_owner_not_root-error-885305/ Make sure /usr/lib/virtualbox/ and everything below is owned by root:root -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Some businesses and professionals need an extremely secure OS lock, that even the best of the best can't crack...
Hi On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: I lost the encrypted login PW for one of my many hd's, and found that I can easily over-ride to restore it if I do a little cracking with codes.. The data was easily found in a Google search, which means that an encrypted OS isn't really a locked OS.. So I'm wondering how can we have sure-fire fool-proof crack-proof keys that maintain a private corporate computer totally safe and private from the crazy world's bullying and messing..? Are you referring to use Google to find out the password via its hash? -- Regards Koh Choon Lin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What permisson to change?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steven Stern, Thanks again for your reply. Em 27-12-2011 13:37, Steven Stern escreveu: On 12/27/2011 03:27 PM, Lucélio Gomes de Freitas wrote: Steven Stern, Thanks for your reply. Em 27-12-2011 12:48, Steven Stern escreveu: On 12/27/2011 02:44 PM, Lucélio Gomes de Freitas wrote: Hi, I installed VirtualBox-OSE.x86_64 4.1.6-4.fc16 @rpmfusion-free-updates on a new machine with F16. For testing purpose I defined a machine and on boot I got the message: Fail to open a sesion for Virtual machine WinVista64_A. Failed to load VMMR0.r0 (VERR-SUPLIB_OWNER_NOT_ROOT). Any help would be well come. Thanks, Add your account to the group vboxusers, then logout and log back in. I did this(take out of the group logout/in + add to the group logout/in) and unfortunately nothing changed. The same messages again. Ps: I tested this before. Check this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/%5Bf14%5D-virtualbox-ose-4-0-2-verr_suplib_owner_not_root-error-885305/ Make sure /usr/lib/virtualbox/ and everything below is owned by root:root Problem solved. I never sudo to root except to do yum updates. What a crazy. Only this problem: How could /usr/lib64 be owned by Lucelio:Lucelio Probably the installation script did something wrong. Thanks again for the pointer. - -- Lucélio Gomes de Freitas ETFCSF= U.G.F.= P.U.C.(RJ) Engº, Analista Suporte(Free Mind). Email: aa.luce...@gmail.com Tel: 55 0XX 21 85964911 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iJwEAQECAAYFAk76UVoACgkQsNIIM7SvQQVUhQQAjNSUx09L9yoFGVce6t2pWb6J N8AQBLsFWS3FD8oVLCILwOewEXkFGvKabwWUFWMQ6hruyYmahOKFMX++993PaK9/ qrRz6qgroy4k3eBOx8NXt++QTGPLf0xPY8OffLwUCPdjAOSCAxLRnvoNpVECNQuj PrRvLsuYswyfDihn3RY= =hiKz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Giving Up On Fedora
On 12/27/2011 01:54 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 12:37, Kevin Martinkevi...@ameritech.net wrote: Here's the thingit's difficult to buy a laptop today that doesn't have an nVidia video card and so it behooves nVidia That´s because you surely choose CPUs from the Wintel monopoly. ;-) If you choose an AMD based laptop, it´ll surely include an ATI video chipset :-) My Laptop has no issues with Fedora, the issue was with main PC which has Nvidia card. I have heard ATI's drivers are even worse than Nvidia's. Many of my friends using ATI face more problems. I have never had any issue. Thanks for recommendation though. :-) Swapnil -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page
In Firefox 9 in F16 I can't set the home page. I make my web page www.Google.com. Then I go to preferences and click Use Current Page. This works for a while. But when I reboot the home page becomes Bing. Is anyone else having this trouble and know how to fix it? -- === May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What permisson to change?
On 12/27/2011 05:14 PM, Lucélio Gomes de Freitas wrote: Steven Stern, Thanks again for your reply. Em 27-12-2011 13:37, Steven Stern escreveu: On 12/27/2011 03:27 PM, Lucélio Gomes de Freitas wrote: Steven Stern, Thanks for your reply. Em 27-12-2011 12:48, Steven Stern escreveu: On 12/27/2011 02:44 PM, Lucélio Gomes de Freitas wrote: Hi, I installed VirtualBox-OSE.x86_64 4.1.6-4.fc16 @rpmfusion-free-updates on a new machine with F16. For testing purpose I defined a machine and on boot I got the message: Fail to open a sesion for Virtual machine WinVista64_A. Failed to load VMMR0.r0 (VERR-SUPLIB_OWNER_NOT_ROOT). Any help would be well come. Thanks, Add your account to the group vboxusers, then logout and log back in. I did this(take out of the group logout/in + add to the group logout/in) and unfortunately nothing changed. The same messages again. Ps: I tested this before. Check this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/%5Bf14%5D-virtualbox-ose-4-0-2-verr_suplib_owner_not_root-error-885305/ Make sure /usr/lib/virtualbox/ and everything below is owned by root:root Problem solved. I never sudo to root except to do yum updates. What a crazy. Only this problem: How could /usr/lib64 be owned by Lucelio:Lucelio Probably the installation script did something wrong. Thanks again for the pointer. If you're going to be using USB connected devices, you'll do better using the version directly from Oracle at https://www.virtualbox.org/ The also provide a repo that works with yum. Scroll down the page to find it here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora 16 -Which nfs services should be running
Newly installed Fedora 16 - I'm trying to wrap my head around systemctl; in particular the nfs services. Does anyone have a pointer to _current_ doc for the nfs services? Alternatively, what nfs services do I need to run? Here's what I have running now: #systemctl|grep nfs proc-fs-nfsd.mountloaded active mounted RPC Pipe File System nfs-idmap.service loaded active running NFSv4 ID-name mapping daemon nfs-lock.service loaded active running NFS file locking service. nfs-server.serviceloaded active running NFS Server FWIW, the client is running Fedoara 10. Connection is denied by the server to all of the exported file systems -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page
On 12/27/2011 09:28 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: In Firefox 9 in F16 I can't set the home page. I make my web page www.Google.com. Then I go to preferences and click Use Current Page. This works for a while. But when I reboot the home page becomes Bing. Is anyone else having this trouble and know how to fix it? -=- this has happened many times with firefox releases and with 9. have a look at this page; http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/How%20to%20set%20the%20home%20page also, are you opening pages in a new tab or window? -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply plain text only. html text are deleted* in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 -Which nfs services should be running
On 12/28/2011 06:49 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: Newly installed Fedora 16 - I'm trying to wrap my head around systemctl; in particular the nfs services. Does anyone have a pointer to _current_ doc for the nfs services? Alternatively, what nfs services do I need to run? Here's what I have running now: #systemctl|grep nfs proc-fs-nfsd.mountloaded active mounted RPC Pipe File System nfs-idmap.service loaded active running NFSv4 ID-name mapping daemon nfs-lock.service loaded active running NFS file locking service. nfs-server.serviceloaded active running NFS Server FWIW, the client is running Fedoara 10. Connection is denied by the server to all of the exported file systems Here is what is running for me [root@meimei ~]# systemctl|grep nfs nfs-idmap.service loaded active running NFSv4 ID-name mapping daemon nfs-lock.service loaded active running NFS file locking service. But, all of my nfs mounts are v4.which I highly recommend over previous versions. I find this document to be very helpful in getting things running http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/servers/setting-up-nfs4.jspx and ensure the information in /etc/idmapd.conf is consistent. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Giving Up On Fedora
On 12/28/2011 06:05 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: On 12/27/2011 01:54 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 12:37, Kevin Martinkevi...@ameritech.net wrote: Here's the thingit's difficult to buy a laptop today that doesn't have an nVidia video card and so it behooves nVidia That´s because you surely choose CPUs from the Wintel monopoly. ;-) If you choose an AMD based laptop, it´ll surely include an ATI video chipset :-) My Laptop has no issues with Fedora, the issue was with main PC which has Nvidia card. I have heard ATI's drivers are even worse than Nvidia's. Many of my friends using ATI face more problems. I have never had any issue. Thanks for recommendation though. :-) Swapnil For the record my company deploys almost nothing but AMD/ATI to clients. We've found the ATI drivers to work quite well once understood. We had to formalized a process to keep the fglrx kernel module in sync with kernel packages, but that's necessary with any external package that lives so close to the kernel. For 3D effects the Radeon drivers sing right along. If anything is lacking its 2D performance over older cable types (like the older Ds-15 stuff) on HD1080 or larger screens with Radeon 6230 chips (the tiny, fanless economy model embedded in Fusion A350 class boards). But there are driver options which mitigate this to a large degree and a few sanity settings that drastically cut down on problems that I hear used to plague ATI. (ProTip: A lot of people think they have the ATI drivers installed but don't because they never actually compiled the fglrx kernel module -- and this has given the ATI drivers a bad rap) Anyway, if Intel/nVidia made fiscal sense we would be deploying that. I assume we would have had a similar learning curve with their drivers or noveau. My point is most of this stuff actually works fine on most chipsets if you can get around to making the drivers make sense to you, but this can require more study and experimentation than people are prepared for. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Giving Up On Fedora
2011/12/28 夜神 岩男 supergiantpot...@yahoo.co.jp: Anyway, if Intel/nVidia made fiscal sense we would be deploying that. I assume we would have had a similar learning curve with their drivers or noveau. My point is most of this stuff actually works fine on most chipsets if you can get around to making the drivers make sense to you, but this can require more study and experimentation than people are prepared for. For me, the strongest case for AMD/ATI hardware is availability of relatively stable FOSS drivers. I have been using the radeon drivers for a little over 2 years now with my ATI HD4870 and have had almost no issues. Although I don't use a lot of 3D, I do play some games from time to time (e.g. Nexuiz, Humble Indie Bundle games). I would rather support a manufacturer who makes some effort (some might argue minimal, but an effort nonetheless) to support FOSS drivers. Just my 2¢. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Some businesses and professionals need an extremely secure OS lock, that even the best of the best can't crack...
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: [...] I'm trying to find a simple yet complex system within a system, that secures private data behind internal passwords and a hardware key, which both can't be cracked.. a file safe that really works, and isn't too much of a bother to run.. it doesn't fight you... It seems it needs be a secondary mother board and separate ram file, separate from the main mother board, and linkable only to the primary M-Board when the OS is switch disconnected from the Net..? Are there any towers that have two mother boards..? Two mother boards is not the perfect answer unless you never let the one talk to the other, especially with today's OSses. (Including Fedora/RH.) And you'd still have the physical possession issues, which seem to be the ones that have you unstrung. By the way, you never really gave enough detail on your original problem, but it looked like you were relying on the manufacturer's locks on the hard drive, and the password examples looked woefully short. And it sounds like you discovered rainbow tables, but I'm not sure. There are other kinds of encryption which do much better, and there is such a thing as the choice of a password. __ The lost PW is the Root PW.. Plus the other lost PW, on another old hd, is the PW to open the encrypted F-14 OS... Yeah, yeah, but what is your real goal? Do you want to be able to lose data permanently by losing a password? Doesn't work. See threads in the past where the conclusion was removing the platter and burnishing off the media/recording layer, and then melting down the substrate. But I don't think that's your real goal. The answer to any security question is, How valuable is the data? Then you choose your means of securing to match the value of the data, just hard enough to discourage those parties that think they are interested in your data. There are whole books written on the topic. A few posts here will not really cover the subject. Are you familiar with Bruce Schneier's writings? Joel Rees -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
bridges, NAT, virtual machines, brain hurt :-).
I'd like to make a Windows virtual machine that has access to the outside world but is completely blocked from access to my local area network (other than whatever forwarding and routing has to happen on my LAN). The idea is to make a virtual windows box which can suffer any ill effects of unsafe browsing practices, while preventing any of those effects from escaping into my LAN. (Then if I use a qcow2 image with a backing file, I can reset the machine to its original undamaged state by simply regenerating a new qcow2 image). I keep thinking along the lines of setting up a new bridge on a separate subnet and doing some sort of NAT routing, but details escape me. I can write those words, but have no idea how to actually accomplish what I want (especially how to restrict the NAT to the outside world and prevent any access to local LAN). I keep thinking this should have been dome by someone already and there should be examples out there, anyone know of any? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Recovering a failed (SSD) hard drive. Unknown partition type.
Last week the SSD in my laptop threw errors when I was doing a backup copy of it. Only 69 of 70 GB copied using Dolphin disk to disk with Auto Skip enabled when there were errors. I guess the good part is that 69 of 70 GB of data copied during the backup and the other good part is that I store my most essential data on another drive. So maybe not much was lost, although the copy was my home directory, so the data lost has to be of some importance. You can read about the initial experience in the thread File copy errors on EXT4 SSD but fsck says its clean on this list. I'd like to take a kick at the cat at restoring the rest of my data and determining what happened. I ran the BIOS tools on both the memory (RAM) and the hard drive itself on the laptop. Both tools returned no errors, as did all the other tools that I have run against this drive. (See previous thread.) I am attempting to mount the drive via a USB external drive interface on another machine. When I connect the interface, dmesg gives me this: usb 2-1.2: new high speed USB device number 4 using ehci_hcd [ 142.896505] usb 2-1.2: New USB device found, idVendor=152d, idProduct=2338 [ 142.896508] usb 2-1.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=5 [ 142.896509] usb 2-1.2: Product: USB to ATA/ATAPI Bridge [ 142.896511] usb 2-1.2: Manufacturer: JMicron [ 142.896512] usb 2-1.2: SerialNumber: C609942002B8 [ 142.897806] scsi9 : usb-storage 2-1.2:1.0 [ 143.897825] scsi 9:0:0:0: Direct-Access INTEL SS DSA2M160G2GC 02G9 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 CCS [ 143.898332] sd 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 [ 143.898919] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdb] 312581808 512-byte logical blocks: (160 GB/149 GiB) [ 143.899642] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off [ 143.899644] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 38 00 00 [ 143.900408] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed [ 143.900411] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 143.902663] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed [ 143.902665] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 143.903904] sdb: unknown partition table [ 143.906419] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed [ 143.906421] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 143.906423] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk What should I do now ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recovering a failed (SSD) hard drive. Unknown partition type.
# fdisk /dev/sdb Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0xf7941c52. Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable. Warning: invalid flag 0x of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xf7941c52 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Silencing Mock
I've never really payed attention (or cared) until now, but Mock is annoying me with copious lines of: ... DEBUG: warning: group iwao does not exist - using root DEBUG: warning: user iwao does not exist - using root ... during builds. I asked the search gods about this one, and all I find are tons of log files scattered around the net with the same messages in them -- but nobody asking if this is an error or not. The builds work fine, its just annoying -- but on systems where this error pops up the command mock --scrub=all can't be run, and I feel the two are probably related. Any ideas? I've got to be missing something small here. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recovering a failed (SSD) hard drive. Unknown partition type.
linux guy writes: # fdisk /dev/sdb Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0xf7941c52. Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable. Warning: invalid flag 0x of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xf7941c52 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System Looks like the partition table took a hit. Unless you remember your partition layout, you're pretty much done. The only thing you can do is create a new partition table, format them, and make a fresh start. But, at this point, I wouldn't trust the drive. pgpCB5byNZ95K.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: bridges, NAT, virtual machines, brain hurt :-).
On Tue, 2011-12-27 at 21:30 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: I'd like to make a Windows virtual machine that has access to the outside world but is completely blocked from access to my local area network (other than whatever forwarding and routing has to happen on my LAN). The idea is to make a virtual windows box which can suffer any ill effects of unsafe browsing practices, while preventing any of those effects from escaping into my LAN. (Then if I use a qcow2 image with a backing file, I can reset the machine to its original undamaged state by simply regenerating a new qcow2 image). I keep thinking along the lines of setting up a new bridge on a separate subnet and doing some sort of NAT routing, but details escape me. I can write those words, but have no idea how to actually accomplish what I want (especially how to restrict the NAT to the outside world and prevent any access to local LAN). I keep thinking this should have been dome by someone already and there should be examples out there, anyone know of any? decent routers have the option for a 'DMZ' host that will achieve what you want without any effort. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recovering a failed (SSD) hard drive. Unknown partition type.
Is there any way to sniff out the old partition table ?What would I need other than the partition table sizes ?I know I had boot, swap and / partitions... Is there any way to copy (and possibly recover) the raw data from the drive ? Possibly using dd or something ? I tried using partimage, but as you guys know, if there is no partition (partition table), it can't copy it. What are the chances that if I could recover the partition table that the data would still be there ? Aside: this caught me TOTALLY off guard. SMART was enabled for this drive, the drive was checked periodically, etc. This laptop hadn't moved off my desk in months and was basically only rebooted to run newer kernels. I did my last backup about a month ago. I have a backup of all my emails, so that is good. All my digital images are stored on a separate drive, so none of them were lost. I'm trying to figure out what content I added in the last month... documents, etc, that got stored in /home/me. I shudder at the thought of sorting this all out. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recovering a failed (SSD) hard drive. Unknown partition type.
What are the chances that the drive controller in the laptop caused this problem ? I just tested the drive in the laptop BIOS and it says its fine. SMART and what it does for a surface scan. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Silencing Mock
On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 11:46 +0900, 夜神 岩男 wrote: I've never really payed attention (or cared) until now, but Mock is annoying me with copious lines of: ... DEBUG: warning: group iwao does not exist - using root DEBUG: warning: user iwao does not exist - using root ... during builds. I asked the search gods about this one, and all I find are tons of log files scattered around the net with the same messages in them -- but nobody asking if this is an error or not. The builds work fine, its just annoying -- but on systems where this error pops up the command mock --scrub=all can't be run, and I feel the two are probably related. Any ideas? I've got to be missing something small here. I've always assumed that this occurs because the Makefiles/scripts in the tarballs have hardcoded user names and that it's generally harmless but always a good reminder of why you don't want to build as root. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: bridges, NAT, virtual machines, brain hurt :-).
On 12/28/2011 11:56 AM, Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2011-12-27 at 21:30 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: I keep thinking along the lines of setting up a new bridge on a separate subnet and doing some sort of NAT routing, but details escape me. I can write those words, but have no idea how to actually accomplish what I want (especially how to restrict the NAT to the outside world and prevent any access to local LAN). I keep thinking this should have been dome by someone already and there should be examples out there, anyone know of any? decent routers have the option for a 'DMZ' host that will achieve what you want without any effort. Searches for how to setup a DMZ or iptables DMZ or whatever are also pretty fruitful -- and its exactly what you're looking for. (Doing it yourself is more fun, imho. But fun == takes time so...) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recovering a failed (SSD) hard drive. Unknown partition type.
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 08:02:07PM -0700, linux guy wrote: Is there any way to sniff out the old partition table ?What would I need other than the partition table sizes ?I know I had boot, swap and / partitions... FYI: A year or so ago I had a USB HD with 200-300 gigs of irreplaceable data on it, formatted as (iirc) ext3. then I accidentally (some might say stupidly) did a DOS format on the drive. MAJOR OOPS. I tried some free tools to recover files, and didn't find them very helpful (one of 'em saved bazillions of files with no useful filenames). googling around I found a company doing business in INdia selling software that will recover windows/dos/mac/linux filesystems, and can run on windows or linux. not finding anything else promising, I sprung for the 50 bucks. the software is somewhat flaky, isn't necessarily trivial to use, some of the options don't work in intuitive ways. but to shorten this long story, I managed to recover pretty much everything that was on the drive, after banging on it for a few days. I had some questions about how to use the software that I sent via email to their support email address, a couple of times, and have yet to receive any response from them, so it's clearly a case of caveat emptor. As best as I can remember, it was called Recover Data for Linux. So, if you've got a hosed partition table, you may be in a similar position to what I was in, so maybe, just maybe, it would be helpful for you. YMMV! I'm not providing any warranties. Is there any way to copy (and possibly recover) the raw data from the drive ? Possibly using dd or something ? I tried using partimage, but as you guys know, if there is no partition (partition table), it can't copy it. What are the chances that if I could recover the partition table that the data would still be there ? Aside: this caught me TOTALLY off guard. SMART was enabled for this drive, the drive was checked periodically, etc. This laptop hadn't moved off my desk in months and was basically only rebooted to run newer kernels. I did my last backup about a month ago. I have a backup of all my emails, so that is good. All my digital images are stored on a separate drive, so none of them were lost. I'm trying to figure out what content I added in the last month... documents, etc, that got stored in /home/me. I shudder at the thought of sorting this all out. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - The Lord is like a strong tower. Those who do what is right can run to him for safety. --- Proverbs 18:10 (niv) - -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recovering a failed (SSD) hard drive. Unknown partition type.
On Tue, 2011-12-27 at 20:03 -0700, linux guy wrote: What are the chances that the drive controller in the laptop caused this problem ? I just tested the drive in the laptop BIOS and it says its fine. SMART and what it does for a surface scan. definitely possible - might be useful to see if you can connect it to a different computer with a different interface - there's many little USB to notebook (2.5 in) SATA drives available. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recovering a failed (SSD) hard drive. Unknown partition type.
linux guy writes: What are the chances that the drive controller in the laptop caused this problem ? I just tested the drive in the laptop BIOS and it says its fine. SMART and what it does for a surface scan. Yes, I'm sure it's fine now. Looks to me like some pages went bad, and the drive mapped them out and replaced with some spare pages held in reserve. Unfortunately, the bad pages were mapped to the initial sectors that held the partition table and the bootloader. The partition table is stored only in one place. There's no backup copy of it. I suppose that it's theoretically possible to scan the sectors looking for something that looks like the start of an ext4 partition. It'll probably be on sector 63 or 2048, and from the ext4 superblock figure out the partition's size, then past it scan for the next partition's ext4 superblock, and be able to reconstruct the partition table that way. But I don't know of any tool that would do that. In this respect, I say that SSDs are no better than mechnical drives. For peace of mind, nothing beats a pair of RAID-1 drives. One drive goes bad – it's easy to swap it out without losing any data. Plus, when you have one of those once-in-a-biennial events like the old 100mb for /boot not being big enough any more, or grub growing too fat to fit within the first 63 sectors, with RAID-1 you'll be able to sweat it out, and survive, without having to wipe everything and fresh-install from scratch. pgpIRrl65swAi.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
OT: SSD recommendations for XPS17 laptop.
It appears as though my Intel X-25 160 GB SSD has died. I just ordered a new Dell XPS17 laptop with a single 500 GB drive (it has 2 drive bays) because I expected to replace the drives in it with the SSD and 750 GB hard drive from my old laptop. So... I now need a new SSD for my new laptop. Dell wants $350 for a 256GB SSD. Any ideas or suggestions ? This is a bit unnerving. http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/05/the-hot-crazy-solid-state-drive-scale.html -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recovering a failed (SSD) hard drive. Unknown partition type.
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: definitely possible - might be useful to see if you can connect it to a different computer with a different interface I've done that. Its now connected to a server that I'm using for my desktop machine via a USB interface. That is how I got the dmesg output. Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recovering a failed (SSD) hard drive. Unknown partition type.
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:09 PM, fred smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote: snip Thanks for sharing that, Fred. I just spent some time going through the files that did copy and I can't see anything critical missing. :HUGE, HUGE sigh of relief. If the situation were worse, I'd be on your suggestion like white on white rice. Thanks for the reply. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: more than one bridge
On Tuesday, December 27, 2011 06:59:53 AM Hiisi wrote: On 27 December 2011 15:49, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Hiisi writes: Hi, list! Is there a way to set up more than one bridged interface having one physical device? I'm setting up virtual machines and want them to share the same network with host computer. For one guest machine I simply created a bridged interface adding line 'BRIDGE=br0' to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p21p1 (host computer network interface), then created /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0 with nececarry configuration. How to create second interface for second guest machine and so on? Add the second machine to the same bridge. Hi, Sam! Thanks, I've already did it. But theoretically, is it possible to create more than one bridge on one interface? Have you looked into using VLANs? From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_network, a few paragraphs down, VLANs (Virtual LANs) are logical LAN's (Local Area Networks), based on physical LAN's. A VLAN can be created by partitioning a physical LAN into multiple logical LAN's (subnets) using a VLAN ID. Alternatively, several physical LAN's can function as a single logical LAN. The partitioned network can be on a single router, or multiple VLAN's can be on multiple routers just as multiple physical LAN's would be. A VLAN can be on a VPN. Your question sounds similar to partitioning a physical LAN into multiple logical LAN's (subnets) using a VLAN ID. Can someone, who has used VLANs recently, comment if this approach will do what the OP wants, and help with the configuration on Linux if the OP wants to try it? Last time I used VLANs was the late 1990's...on a SOHO (FlowPoint) router. I'm afraid I'm a bit rusty and would have to test any help I might offer. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recovering a failed (SSD) hard drive. Unknown partition type.
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Yes, I'm sure it's fine now. Please clarify, what do you think is fine now ? The drive ? Or the laptop/drive controller ? Looks to me like some pages went bad, and the drive mapped them out and replaced with some spare pages held in reserve. Unfortunately, the bad pages were mapped to the initial sectors that held the partition table and the bootloader. OK. The partition table is stored only in one place. There's no backup copy of it. Looking forward, should one be backing up the PT ? Would that have helped in this situation ? I suppose that it's theoretically possible to scan the sectors looking for something that looks like the start of an ext4 partition. It'll probably be on sector 63 or 2048, and from the ext4 superblock figure out the partition's size, then past it scan for the next partition's ext4 superblock, and be able to reconstruct the partition table that way. But I don't know of any tool that would do that. OK. Can anyone else chime in on this idea ? In this respect, I say that SSDs are no better than mechnical drives. I think I agree with you now ! For peace of mind, nothing beats a pair of RAID-1 drives. One drive goes bad – it's easy to swap it out without losing any data. I ordered a laptop to replace my old one last week. It has an eSATA port... and hard drives are inexpensive these days... This whole experience has been a huge eye opener. Plus, when you have one of those once-in-a-biennial events like the old 100mb for /boot not being big enough any more, or grub growing too fat to fit within the first 63 sectors, with RAID-1 you'll be able to sweat it out, and survive, without having to wipe everything and fresh-install from scratch. Right. I need to put more effort into data backup, though, to my credit, I do have regular backups and ironically, doing a backup showed me how bad the problem was AND allowed me to get 69 of 70 GB of data off the drive before it failed entirely. The first sign of this problem was a very suspicious boot failure. I immediately performed a backup upon experiencing that, wherein I found out how bad it really was. Though my old laptop has had boot issues with Linux kernels for a long, long time. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Silencing Mock
2011/12/27 夜神 岩男 supergiantpot...@yahoo.co.jp: I've never really payed attention (or cared) until now, but Mock is annoying me with copious lines of: ... DEBUG: warning: group iwao does not exist - using root DEBUG: warning: user iwao does not exist - using root ... during builds. I asked the search gods about this one, and all I find are tons of log files scattered around the net with the same messages in them -- but nobody asking if this is an error or not. This happens when opening any SRPM that was created with a user account that doesn't exist on the target machine. (And will probably happen every time w/mock because no users exist in the chroot it makes.) IIUC, RPM stores the owner and permission of all files included in an SRPM when building it, and then tries to restore them when it's installed. If it doesn't exist, it prints that warning and falls back on a default value. It's completely harmless. The builds work fine, its just annoying -- but on systems where this error pops up the command mock --scrub=all can't be run, and I feel the two are probably related. I think that's just a coincidence. What error do you get when running that? Any ideas? I've got to be missing something small here. -T.C. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: more than one bridge
On 28 December 2011 07:21, Rick Sewill rsew...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, December 27, 2011 06:59:53 AM Hiisi wrote: On 27 December 2011 15:49, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Hiisi writes: Hi, list! Is there a way to set up more than one bridged interface having one physical device? I'm setting up virtual machines and want them to share the same network with host computer. For one guest machine I simply created a bridged interface adding line 'BRIDGE=br0' to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p21p1 (host computer network interface), then created /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0 with nececarry configuration. How to create second interface for second guest machine and so on? Add the second machine to the same bridge. Hi, Sam! Thanks, I've already did it. But theoretically, is it possible to create more than one bridge on one interface? Have you looked into using VLANs? From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_network, a few paragraphs down, VLANs (Virtual LANs) are logical LAN's (Local Area Networks), based on physical LAN's. A VLAN can be created by partitioning a physical LAN into multiple logical LAN's (subnets) using a VLAN ID. Alternatively, several physical LAN's can function as a single logical LAN. The partitioned network can be on a single router, or multiple VLAN's can be on multiple routers just as multiple physical LAN's would be. A VLAN can be on a VPN. Your question sounds similar to partitioning a physical LAN into multiple logical LAN's (subnets) using a VLAN ID. Can someone, who has used VLANs recently, comment if this approach will do what the OP wants, and help with the configuration on Linux if the OP wants to try it? Last time I used VLANs was the late 1990's...on a SOHO (FlowPoint) router. I'm afraid I'm a bit rusty and would have to test any help I might offer. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Hi, Rick. Although I've already configured network access for virtual machines using VirtualBox capabilities to brige host network interface, it seems than VLAN-approach is also possible. A fast google reveals many results on VLAN configuration (for example, I've found this link: http://www.stg.net/vlanbridge ). -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Silencing Mock
On 12/28/2011 12:46 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: 2011/12/27 夜神 岩男supergiantpot...@yahoo.co.jp: I've never really payed attention (or cared) until now, but Mock is annoying me with copious lines of: ... DEBUG: warning: group iwao does not exist - using root DEBUG: warning: user iwao does not exist - using root ... It's completely harmless. I just don't like dangling ugly. :-/ There is almost definitely a way to fix this, but maybe its not worth it. Like reassigning ownership after chroot is populated (but that could be a *lot* of files). Or perhaps adding a switch to RPM that deliberately assigns a specified owner:group on install, and pass that argument along through the mock script (better? but I thought RPM already had a switch like that, though I don't recall at the moment). The builds work fine, its just annoying -- but on systems where this error pops up the command mock --scrub=all can't be run, and I feel the two are probably related. I think that's just a coincidence. What error do you get when running that? ERROR: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/mock/epel-6-x86_64/result/state.log' But you're right, it was a coincidence. I just realized that a custom build environment used for work is the most-used cfg, and in fact epel-6-x86_64 doesn't exist just now, so this was correct and has nothing to do with the ownership noise Mock makes. Correcting the /etc/mock/default.cfg symlink to point at the actual most-used cfg file fixed me. I was blowing my own mind... (O.o) Thanks! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Implementing a sometimes RAID on a laptop. (eSATA, SSD, RAID 1)
I experienced a complete SSD failure this week on my laptop. I've ordered a new Dell XPS 17 laptop which has an eSATA port. Given the nature of the SSD failure I experienced, from now on I wish to have my laptop running a RAID1 setup via the eSATA port when its used on my desk. However, when its not used on my desk, I wish it to function normally without the RAID functionality. Question 1. How does one set up a sometimes RAID ? Or would something like rsync be better ? What happens the first time I plug my laptop into the eSATA cable after being away from my desk ? What happens if there is both new data and an error in existing data ? How does the RAID software know the difference ? Question 2. Internally, my XPS17 has 2 hard drives. I will probably use an SSD for the OS and a 750 GB 7200 RPM conventional drive for data. How does one configure the single external eSATA RAID drive to back up (mirror) the data for both internal drives ? Question 3. The OS drive will be an SSD which is faster than the eSATA RAID drive, which will probably be a 7200 RPM 2TB+ conventional drive. Will this limit the speed of the SSD to that of the eSATA drive or is buffering employed to allow one to be faster than the other ? Question 4. Can only a portion of the eSATA RAID drive be allocated to the RAID and the rest left to be mounted by the laptop for general access ? Thanks ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recovering a failed (SSD) hard drive. Unknown partition type.
Is there any chance that some of this was caused by hot plugging an SSD device into a hot plug SATA port ? Do SSDs support hot plugging ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Implementing a sometimes RAID on a laptop. (eSATA, SSD, RAID 1)
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 05:57, linux guy linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: Given the nature of the SSD failure I experienced, from now on I wish to have my laptop running a RAID1 setup via the eSATA port when its used on my desk. However, when its not used on my desk, I wish it to function normally without the RAID functionality. I have never heard of any sometimes RAID setup. I don't think that is possible. I would say just do incremental backups every night. There are many tools, rsync being the most commonly used. If you use LVM, you could also try taking LVM snapshots. I personally use rsnapshot, a wrapper around rsync, to back up every night. So far it has saved me countless times. GL -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recovering a failed (SSD) hard drive. Unknown partition type.
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:02 PM, linux guy linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any way to sniff out the old partition table ? What would I need other than the partition table sizes ? I know I had boot, swap and / partitions... Try testdisk. It will attempt to identify and restore partitions on a disk. It's in the Fedora repo, just yum install testdisk. Is there any way to copy (and possibly recover) the raw data from the drive ? Possibly using dd or something ? When you install testdisk it will also install photorec, an application that will attempt to identify and restore all files it can recognize on an otherwise borked disk. It's probably your best bet if testdisk fails. Both testdisk and photorec have menu-driven text interfaces that are fairly intuitive to use, but there's plenty of information to be found with your favorite search engine if you get stuck. I tried using partimage, but as you guys know, if there is no partition (partition table), it can't copy it. What are the chances that if I could recover the partition table that the data would still be there ? There's really no way to tell. Everything might be intact, or it could be totally FUBAR. It all depends on exactly how your drive is damaged and to what extent. I'm sure SSDs fail in new and exciting ways we could never dream of with spinning platters. ;-) Aside: this caught me TOTALLY off guard. SMART was enabled for this drive, the drive was checked periodically, etc. This laptop hadn't moved off my desk in months and was basically only rebooted to run newer kernels. I know next to nothing about SSDs, but perhaps SMART isn't that smart about them yet? ;-) Some of the data exposed in SMART that I'm aware of doesn't seem like it's that relevant with SSDs. -T.C. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Giving Up On Fedora
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Note: I have a multiboot system (running openSUSE/Ubuntu and trying Fedora on it) any advice on that? Since Fedora can't detect Ubuntu I usually don't install fedora Grub and then from within Ubuntu update the grub. (keeping different OSes for reviews and articles). FWIW, Debian's grub2 has been good about finding Fedora. Just wish grub2 were as good at chaining to a non-MSOS as the original grub was. And didn't get perplexed with three drives hanging on the master channels of two different controllers. With chaining, I wouldn't have to update Debian's grub every time Fedora loads a new kernel. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
No title bar on app windows under XFCE in one user
Anyone else getting this kind of problem where app windows under XFCE in one particular user, but not in another, come up without title bars (and thus no close box, etc.)? The menu bar is there and functions. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No title bar on app windows under XFCE in one user
Is xfce4-panel started? suomi On 2011-12-28 07:18, Joel Rees wrote: Anyone else getting this kind of problem where app windows under XFCE in one particular user, but not in another, come up without title bars (and thus no close box, etc.)? The menu bar is there and functions. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recovering a failed (SSD) hard drive. Unknown partition type.
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:02 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:02 PM, linux guy linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any way to sniff out the old partition table ? What would I need other than the partition table sizes ? I know I had boot, swap and / partitions... Try testdisk. It will attempt to identify and restore partitions on a disk. TestDisk 6.12, Data Recovery Utility, May 2011 Christophe GRENIER gren...@cgsecurity.org http://www.cgsecurity.org Disk /dev/sdd - 160 GB / 149 GiB - INTEL SS DSA2M160G2GC Please select the partition table type, press Enter when done. [Intel ] Intel/PC partition [EFI GPT] EFI GPT partition map (Mac i386, some x86_64...) [Humax ] Humax partition table [Mac] Apple partition map [None ] Non partitioned media [Sun] Sun Solaris partition [XBox ] XBox partition [Return ] Return to disk selection After selecting an Intel/PC partition type, testdisk finds no partitions on the initial and the deeper scans. Not a thing. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Implementing a sometimes RAID on a laptop. (eSATA, SSD, RAID 1)
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:43 PM, suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: I have never heard of any sometimes RAID setup. I don't think that is possible. I know... it was a longshot. I would say just do incremental backups every night. There are many tools, rsync being the most commonly used. If you use LVM, you could also try taking LVM snapshots. I think I'll use luckybackup or something similar. I personally use rsnapshot, a wrapper around rsync, to back up every night. So far it has saved me countless times. I like the fact these tools allow one to save a number of snapshots so that if you want to look for something from a month ago, you have a chance of finding it. And they back up without ballooning the storage requirements as time goes on, other than when you have more data on your drive. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Implementing a sometimes RAID on a laptop. (eSATA, SSD, RAID 1)
One thing that luckybackup does is send status emails for each backup attempt. That would be really handy for me. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Boot disk?
On 2011/12/27 07:12, j...@bubble.org wrote:
On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Jeffrey Rossj...@bubble.org wrote:
Is there a way to identify which disk the BIOS is using to boot from (eg
disk 0 or 1) when I don't have physical access to the system to view the
BIOS settings?
The situation is this, I have a machine at a remote location where the
system runs RAID-1 and both disks (0 and 1) can boot the system, I need
to
rewrite the boot sectors on the disks and I don't have easy access to
the
machine so I have to be careful as to which order I do them.
If both disks have identical bootloaders, I'm not sure there's any way
from a running system to check which one you booted from. If you
don't mind rebooting it, you could add a different arbitrary kernel
argument to the GRUB configuration of each disk's bootloader, reboot
the machine, then check /proc/cmdline to see which one shows up.
That being said, why does the order matter? So long as you do both
correctly before rebooting the machine all should be well.
In this case it turns out it was booting off of sda (which is what I
suspected), I ended up taking a ride down to the datacenter and verifying
the BIOS.
The original question although no longer important remains, can you tell
which disk the initial load occurred from? I did run dmidecode and found
nothing of value.
Thanks, Jeff
Jeff, you might get somewhere reading the grub configuration files or out
of fstab. Beyond that it's hard to say. For the fstab route you'd probably
have to check against UUIDs. But that's not too hard. Worst case your dmesg
information right after you boot or in /var/log/dmesg could probably be
decoded to tell you what's up.
{^_^}
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Re: Implementing a sometimes RAID on a laptop. (eSATA, SSD, RAID 1)
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 5:57 AM, linux guy linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: I experienced a complete SSD failure this week on my laptop. Question 1. How does one set up a sometimes RAID ? Or would something like rsync be better ? What happens the first time I plug my laptop into the eSATA cable after being away from my desk ? What happens if there is both new data and an error in existing data ? How does the RAID software know the difference ? I do think rsync is the right answer but Raid1 with the eSATA drive as write mostly is a sometimes raid. You will need a big bitmap (to keep track of what is new on the ssd) and I suspect it will steal some performance of your drive even when disconnected. Keywords: Bitmap Write-intent Logging, write-mostly Question 4. Can only a portion of the eSATA RAID drive be allocated to the RAID and the rest left to be mounted by the laptop for general access ? Yes. Partition the drive and set some as filesystem and some as raid. I will give no recipe because you will need to know exactly how this works to use it, and also do an educated guess on the viability of this exotic setup after reading the manual. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
