During some CD operations Fedora freezes for some seconds

2012-03-01 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi,

having a weird effect (in F16, [F17 too]): during some CD operations,
ejecting  for example, or clicking on the CD symbol by nautilus if a new
CD is inserted in the drive, my system freezes, so my desktop is
insensitive for some seconds.

Somebody sees this too, and how to get rid from this effect?

All answers are welcome.

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Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-03-01 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 17:11, Joe Zeff  wrote:
> Why?  All of the Microsoft fanbois will have it and you'll be able to use it
> on your Mac.  Like it or not, that's well over 90% of the market, and to
> Adobe, that's all that matters.

I think that´s looking at it from the wrong side. What Google
effectively did with this move is give their propietary browser a
competitive edge, while depriving its open source competition (Firefox
and all Gecko based browsers) from a critical plug-in*.

Of course that´s just my POV...

FC
* As much as I despise Flash I have to admit that having no access to
it restricts access to some web sites
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Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-03-01 Thread Paul Allen Newell

On 3/1/2012 7:32 PM, nomnex wrote:

On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 17:46:11 -0800
Paul Allen Newell  wrote:

I haven't hit anything that doesn't play in my base tests (mp4, qt,
avi, wmv, and mov). Do you know of a format that isn't picked up in
whatever yum/rpm pulls in for mplayer/rpmfusion?

Possibly "Real Player" crap, among other oddities[1].

 From memory, the all codecs pack (vs. essential) support a few more old
or exotic formats. You might not need them. You can keep the links
for ref. JIC.

There is a tutorial here: http://hacktux.com/fedora/codecs

Haven't had to deal with Real Player and not worth being able to it 
unless I get something that requires such.


Thanks for the tutorial ... I agree these are good to have ... JIC

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Re: empathy - is it for real?

2012-03-01 Thread Dan Irwin
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Olav Vitters  wrote:

> I've seen some Empathy crashes 6+ months ago, but nothing lately. Did
> you file bugs for the crashers? Have they've been handled / forwarded
> upstream?

No, not yet. I was mainly fishing to see if anyone else has the
problems i am seeing. Given the small number of replies, I can assume
one of two things:
1) Not many people actually use empathy, or
2) Others are not seeing the problems I am.

If i can pinpoint some consistent buggy/bad behaviour, I will submit
some reports to bugzilla.
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Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-03-01 Thread nomnex
> On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 17:46:11 -0800
> Paul Allen Newell  wrote:
> 
> I haven't hit anything that doesn't play in my base tests (mp4, qt,
> avi, wmv, and mov). Do you know of a format that isn't picked up in
> whatever yum/rpm pulls in for mplayer/rpmfusion? 

Possibly "Real Player" crap, among other oddities[1].

From memory, the all codecs pack (vs. essential) support a few more old
or exotic formats. You might not need them. You can keep the links
for ref. JIC.

There is a tutorial here: http://hacktux.com/fedora/codecs

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Re: Need help USB modem

2012-03-01 Thread Roger




Quick question about the device


What does it show up as when you plug it in and type lsusb?


I don't know, I'll ask tomorrow

Thanks
Roger




Hi Rick, Terry and Doug


Re. the student's laptop my daughter asked about with the Sierra aircard 
modem


I asked her to get the student to do a lsusb and the laptop reports:

Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integragted Rate Matching Hub
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integragted Rate Matching Hub
Bus 005 Device 003: ID 13d3:5710 IMC Networks
Bus 006 Device 004: ID 0bda:0139 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Bus 007 Device 004: ID 1199:68a3 Sierra Wireless, Inc.
So, apparently it finds the modem.

From my reading it seems that it needs manual configuration of wvdial.conf

While I understand that Microsoft and Telstra seem to be in bed together 
it seems strange that there is no automatic/easy setup for such a 
commonplace modem. Pity there is no script available that any newbie 
could run and install with minimum of fuss.


Have to find a way to advise the student, that's way out of my league.
Thanks
Roger



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Re: how to start fvwm from the console command line?

2012-03-01 Thread stan
On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:26:45 -0800
ny6...@gmail.com wrote:

[script removed]

> I don't know if this answers your question, but maybe it helps. :)

Yes, it answers my question and I will keep the script for future use.
I have already received an answer from Andras Simon that is very
closely related to yours, but it is all good.  :-)  Thank you.
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Re: During boot keyboard not working for passphrase

2012-03-01 Thread Patrick Lists

Hi Rick,

On 01-03-12 20:35, Rick Stevens wrote:
[snip]

So during boot my wireless USB keyboard stops working. This happens with
all currently installed kernels: 3.2.3, 3.2.5 and 3.2.6. The wireless
USB keyboard used to work fine when asked for the passphrase.

Anyone have a suggestion how I can fix this?


Check the boot ramdisk to make sure the wireless keyboard driver is
included. Not sure which "hid" driver it'd be, but I'd check. In my
case it's "hidp" (I use a bluetooth keyboard).


Thanks for the tip! Now off to Google to figure this out.

Regards,
Patrick
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Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-03-01 Thread Paul Allen Newell

On 3/1/2012 5:21 PM, nomnex wrote:



You are welcome.

Make sure you have the MPlayer all-codecs pack installed. You have to
install them manually (unless to be wrong, they are not in the RPMFusion
package).

download: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/

info: Binary Codec Packages
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html



nomnex:

From what I could tell from earlier posts and what I saw online, it 
"seemed" that mplayer used rpmfusion. Even the link to the dload.html 
seems to indicate binaries are from RPM packages from RPMFusion.


I haven't hit anything that doesn't play in my base tests (mp4, qt, avi, 
wmv, and mov). Do you know of a format that isn't picked up in whatever 
yum/rpm pulls in for mplayer/rpmfusion?


Thanks,
Paul

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Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-03-01 Thread nomnex
> On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 16:56:33 -0800
> Paul Allen Newell  wrote:
>
> On 2/25/2012 8:13 AM, Alchemist wrote:
> > 2012/2/25 nomnex:
> >>
> > Yes SMPlayer is highly recommended GUI for mplayer
> 
> nomnex and alchemist:
> 
> Sorry for the delay in getting back as I had family visit descend
> upon my house.
> 
> I downloaded smplayer and gave it a test drive, works great ... many 
> thanks for the recommendation.
> 
> I'm going to keep both vlc and smplayer on system and see if I ever
> hit a situation where one or the other doesn't work.
> 
> Paul

You are welcome.

Make sure you have the MPlayer all-codecs pack installed. You have to
install them manually (unless to be wrong, they are not in the RPMFusion
package).

download: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/

info: Binary Codec Packages
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html

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Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-03-01 Thread Paul Allen Newell

On 2/24/2012 5:18 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:02:30 -0800
Paul Allen Newell wrote:

I've got this wacky setup (I don't actually use, but have tested)
for running mplayer from my phone via a web browser and some cgi
scripts that inject artificial LIRC keypresses (I would have dragged
in more components, but unfortunately I got it to work with only
those :-).

http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/lirc/lirc.html


Tom:

Thanks. After getting the suggestions to try smplayer, I've decided to 
go that route. Appreciate your html to check out.


Paul
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Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-03-01 Thread Paul Allen Newell

On 2/25/2012 8:13 AM, Alchemist wrote:

2012/2/25 nomnex:



Yes SMPlayer is highly recommended GUI for mplayer


nomnex and alchemist:

Sorry for the delay in getting back as I had family visit descend upon 
my house.


I downloaded smplayer and gave it a test drive, works great ... many 
thanks for the recommendation.


I'm going to keep both vlc and smplayer on system and see if I ever hit 
a situation where one or the other doesn't work.


Paul
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Re: Fedora 14 Gnome 2 to Fedora 16 KDE

2012-03-01 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 01/03/12 22:31, Phil Dobbin wrote:
> Hi, all.
> 
> I've been using Fedora 14 (i686) on an old IBM Think Pad T42 after
> swapping from Debian Squeeze & am really enjoying the experience.
> 
> Fedora 14 having reached EOL, I'm looking to upgrade but at present I'm
> running Gnome 2 & 16 uses Gnome 3. Not only will Gnome 3 not run on my
> machine but from what I've seen of it, I don't really care to use it.
> 
> So I'm looking at using KDE. The Fedora 16 Live CD (KDE) runs fine on
> the Think Pad & it seems a far better option than Gnome 3 in failback so
> my question is:
> 
> 1). Is there anyway I can upgrade via Yum from Gnome on 14 -> Kde on 16
> without unduly breaking anything?
> 
> I've tried Googling for an answer but it's quite difficult phrasing it
> correctly to get a vaild response.
> 
> I've got my /home/ folder backed up both locally & remotely so if I have
> to re-install will there be any conflicts on that score if I attempt to
> rsync from the back up (which I imagine there probably will)?
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give & please be patient for a response as
> I'm on digest delivery.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>   Phil...
> 

I'm sure it is possible, but I suspect it will take a lot longer than
doing a backup before doing a fresh Fedora 16 KDE install. Unfortunately
I have not had particularly good experiences trying to update to Fedora
15/16, (only managing to finally install a flaky Fedora 16 today after
many attempts). Hence due to the fairly major changes you are seeking to
make I would be cautious.

HTH

cpp4ever
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Re: [389-users] replication errors

2012-03-01 Thread Rich Megginson

On 03/01/2012 04:53 PM, Ellsworth, Josh wrote:


I am trying to set up replication between 2 389 servers. The master is 
running the following packages:


389-admin.x86_64  1.1.16-1.el5 
installed


389-admin-console.noarch  1.1.7-1.el5  
installed


389-admin-console-doc.noarch  1.1.7-1.el5  
installed


389-adminutil.x86_64  1.1.13-1.el5 
installed


389-console.noarch1.1.4-1.el5  
installed


389-ds.noarch 1.2.1-1.el5  
installed


389-ds-base.x86_641.2.8.3-1.el5
installed


389-ds-base-libs.x86_64   1.2.8.3-1.el5
installed


389-ds-console.noarch 1.2.5-1.el5  
installed


389-ds-console-doc.noarch 1.2.5-1.el5  
installed


389-dsgw.x86_64   1.1.6-1.el5  
installe


The slave is a centos 6 box that has 1.2.9.2. I am getting the 
following error when I try to initialize:


import userRoot: WARNING: bad entry: ID xxx

Any idea how I can get around this?


Not sure, but try 389-ds-base 1.2.10.2 instead.




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Re: F16 installation problems

2012-03-01 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 01/03/12 21:49, Paul W. Frields wrote:



> 
> Nevertheless, do think about reporting a complete bug if you can make
> the same problem happen repeatedly.  Start here for beginner
> information, but if you're going to file a kernel bug, I *highly*
> recommend you press on to read the more detailed information linked at
> the end.
> 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report
> 

Just for the record, the latest kernel for Fedora 16 causes a kernel
panic. From this I've deduced that installing Fedora 16 without updates
first resulted in my having a bootable kernel and hence a workable
Fedora 16.  As for the reporting of bugs, when I can reliably reproduce
an error with some useful feedback I will do so, but as I well know it
is very difficult to fix bugs with limited information or ability to
reliably reproduce them. Unfortunately I'm still finding Fedora 16
somewhat unstable, yum/yumex being particularly prone to becoming
unstable. So no updating my laptop just yet.

Anyway, more information to come regarding failures during startup, as
these appear it bit more consistent, and easy to narrow down.

Here's hoping people new to Linux don't come up against the problems I
have, it may not put them off Linux, but just the Fedora distribution.

cpp4ever
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[389-users] replication errors

2012-03-01 Thread Ellsworth, Josh
I am trying to set up replication between 2 389 servers. The master is running 
the following packages:

 

389-admin.x86_64  1.1.16-1.el5 installed

389-admin-console.noarch  1.1.7-1.el5  installed

389-admin-console-doc.noarch  1.1.7-1.el5  installed

389-adminutil.x86_64  1.1.13-1.el5 installed

389-console.noarch1.1.4-1.el5  installed

389-ds.noarch 1.2.1-1.el5  installed

389-ds-base.x86_641.2.8.3-1.el5installed

389-ds-base-libs.x86_64   1.2.8.3-1.el5installed

389-ds-console.noarch 1.2.5-1.el5  installed

389-ds-console-doc.noarch 1.2.5-1.el5  installed

389-dsgw.x86_64   1.1.6-1.el5  installe

 

The slave is a centos 6 box that has 1.2.9.2. I am getting the following error 
when I try to initialize:

 

import userRoot: WARNING: bad entry: ID xxx

 

Any idea how I can get around this?

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Re: [389-users] managing 389 with a different admin server

2012-03-01 Thread Ellsworth, Josh
The solution was to run setup-ds-admin.pl  -u. That changed all the settings 
for me.

 

From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
[mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Ellsworth, Josh
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:52 AM
To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
Subject: Re: [389-users] managing 389 with a different admin server

 

The issue that I am having is that both are already set up. I need to change 
the associated admin server for one of them.

 

 

 

From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
[mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Gerhardus 
Geldenhuis
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:50 AM
To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
Subject: Re: [389-users] managing 389 with a different admin server

 

Hi

Basically you need to share the same admin database... so the admin database 
needs to be multi mastered( well strictly not but could be) . There was a wiki 
page on this but I could not find it.

 

So you use setup-ds-admin.pl for the first server and then for the second 
server you would use setup-ds.pl which you then use to register your instance 
against the existing admin db.

 

Regards

On 27 February 2012 16:39, Ellsworth, Josh  
wrote:

We have two instances of 389 that were installed with the setup-ds-admin.pl 
script, and they both have unique admin servers. Is there a way to manage them 
both with the same admin server? If so, how is this accomplished.

 

Thanks!

 

Josh


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Re: Strangness of Firefox 10.0.1 in F16

2012-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2012-03-01 at 15:54 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> This just started happening to me. When I login and open Firefox 10.0.1
> it starts loading my homepage www.google.com.
> 
> Then the loading stops and I get a message:
> The connection was interrupted
> The connection wwto www.google/cpm was interrupted while the page was
> loading.
> 
> It offers me te option to Try Again by clicking a box on screen and the
> home page is loaded. 
> 
> Can anyone explain what is going on and how to stop it?

Try starting FF in safe mode (no plugins). If that doesn't work, try
eliminating cookies for google.com.

poc

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Fedora 14 Gnome 2 to Fedora 16 KDE

2012-03-01 Thread Phil Dobbin
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Hi, all.

I've been using Fedora 14 (i686) on an old IBM Think Pad T42 after
swapping from Debian Squeeze & am really enjoying the experience.

Fedora 14 having reached EOL, I'm looking to upgrade but at present I'm
running Gnome 2 & 16 uses Gnome 3. Not only will Gnome 3 not run on my
machine but from what I've seen of it, I don't really care to use it.

So I'm looking at using KDE. The Fedora 16 Live CD (KDE) runs fine on
the Think Pad & it seems a far better option than Gnome 3 in failback so
my question is:

1). Is there anyway I can upgrade via Yum from Gnome on 14 -> Kde on 16
without unduly breaking anything?

I've tried Googling for an answer but it's quite difficult phrasing it
correctly to get a vaild response.

I've got my /home/ folder backed up both locally & remotely so if I have
to re-install will there be any conflicts on that score if I attempt to
rsync from the back up (which I imagine there probably will)?

Thanks for any help you can give & please be patient for a response as
I'm on digest delivery.

Cheers,

  Phil...

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Though it be not written down,
yet forget not that I am an ass.

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Strangness of Firefox 10.0.1 in F16

2012-03-01 Thread Aaron Konstam
This just started happening to me. When I login and open Firefox 10.0.1
it starts loading my homepage www.google.com.

Then the loading stops and I get a message:
The connection was interrupted
The connection wwto www.google/cpm was interrupted while the page was
loading.

It offers me te option to Try Again by clicking a box on screen and the
home page is loaded. 

Can anyone explain what is going on and how to stop it?


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Re: F16 installation problems

2012-03-01 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 08:36:34PM +, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote:
> On 01/03/12 18:44, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 03:05:44PM +, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote:
> >>
> >> I have tried to do a network install of Fedora 16 multiple times, but it
> >> has failed every time! More to the point I also discovered that the
> >> anaconda install ignores changes I requested for the partition layout.
> >> Excuse me for suggesting this, but Fedora 15 and 16 releases seem to be
> >> the most troublesome releases ever, even exceeding the problems of the
> >> transition to KDE 4. In fact I'm beginning to lose patience with Fedora
> >> and will probably look at switching to another distro, so all
> >> suggestions of an alternative stable KDE distribution are welcome.
> > 
> > If you can describe exactly what you did, it would be easier to offer
> > advice or help.  For instance, a blow-by-blow of what you did at the
> > partitioning screen would be useful.
> > 
> 
> Using the network install CD, (verified from hash)
> 
> Setting it to automatically partition and use a 1 Tb drive, changing the
> GUI to be KDE rather than Gnome, it hangs after between 130 and 500
> packages have been installed. It failed the same way when no changes to
> the default packages were made.  Numerous variations, including
> simplifying the hardware to just motherboard, graphics card, memory,
> HDD, and DVD RW made no difference!  Even connecting directly to the ISP
> modem made no difference. I doubt you can suggest something new.

You can often see error messages by switching to an alternate tty:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Logging

Whether you can switch (using Ctrl+Alt+F2, F3, F4, etc.) may depend on
whether you're getting a really awful problem like a kernel panic --
which may indicate a hardware error particular to your setup -- or
just a network timeout of some sort.

Ctrl+Alt+F2 will give you tty2, a shell where you can look at the
current logs in /tmp. Similarly Ctrl+Alt+F3 (tty3) and Ctrl+Alt+F4
(tty4) will give you higher level messages which might indicate the
problem.

The fact that you're having difficulty with a number of different
methods makes me think it's more likely a hardware difficulty.  Can
you verify your memory, storage, etc. are all fine using other OS
utilities?

> Using the KDE spin CD, (verified by hash and does boot in vesa mode)
> 
> Installation completes, but then fails to finish configuring the HDD
> causing the subsequent boot from grub to fail!.
> 
> Finally I have failed to burn an install DVD either on the PC or a
> laptop, it also failing multiple times! Hence my attempts to update from
> Fedora 14 appear to have been thwarted and I'm somewhat annoyed!!
> 
> After this much trouble I am becoming seriously disillusioned with Fedora!!!
> 
> Breaking news!!! I have a flaky Fedora 16 running on my PC, here's
> roughly how:
> 
> Installed from KDE spin CD
> Ran update from network install CD, (multiple times due to failures)
> 
> still cannot boot the latest kernel though, and it appears to crash far
> more frequently than I'd expect. Bottom line is I'm still not going to
> try updating my laptop from Fedora 14 until I see Fedora 16/17 become a
> lot more stable!

Well, this is a step forward, but let's not rush to conclude this is a
general or widespread F16 stability problem.  I've run both on my
hardware here with zero problems, as have many other people I know.
My whole family uses it daily on several computers and it's been solid
as a rock since the public release.  A lot of dedicated, wonderful
folks put a ton of time into making sure that Fedora is as good as
possible before that happens.

Nevertheless, do think about reporting a complete bug if you can make
the same problem happen repeatedly.  Start here for beginner
information, but if you're going to file a kernel bug, I *highly*
recommend you press on to read the more detailed information linked at
the end.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report

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Fedora 16 and Software Raid 10 on install

2012-03-01 Thread Aero Maxx

Hello Users,

Could someone help me with a Software RAID 10 setup on Fedora 16 with 
disk druid, as trying to do it on a brand new install.


If I chose 1 hard drive at install I can see how this is setup, but I am 
having difficulty knowing what to change to make it into a software 
raid, have googled this extensively and tried to understand various 
guides without any luck, dont follow what there saying as finding them a 
bit vague on some details.


VolGroup   1144192
lv_root51200  /   ext4
lv_home229472 /home   ext4
lv_swap4992   swap

sda
sda1   1  BIOS Boot
sda2   500/boot   ext4
sda3   285686 VolGroupphysical volume (LVM)


Ideally I would like to be able to take a drive out should it fail and 
replace it with another and for it all to be ok.  I believe this would 
be possible with raid 10.


Thanks in Advance.
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Re: F16 installation problems

2012-03-01 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 01/03/12 18:44, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 03:05:44PM +, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote:
>>
>> I have tried to do a network install of Fedora 16 multiple times, but it
>> has failed every time! More to the point I also discovered that the
>> anaconda install ignores changes I requested for the partition layout.
>> Excuse me for suggesting this, but Fedora 15 and 16 releases seem to be
>> the most troublesome releases ever, even exceeding the problems of the
>> transition to KDE 4. In fact I'm beginning to lose patience with Fedora
>> and will probably look at switching to another distro, so all
>> suggestions of an alternative stable KDE distribution are welcome.
> 
> If you can describe exactly what you did, it would be easier to offer
> advice or help.  For instance, a blow-by-blow of what you did at the
> partitioning screen would be useful.
> 

Using the network install CD, (verified from hash)

Setting it to automatically partition and use a 1 Tb drive, changing the
GUI to be KDE rather than Gnome, it hangs after between 130 and 500
packages have been installed. It failed the same way when no changes to
the default packages were made.  Numerous variations, including
simplifying the hardware to just motherboard, graphics card, memory,
HDD, and DVD RW made no difference!  Even connecting directly to the ISP
modem made no difference. I doubt you can suggest something new.

Using the KDE spin CD, (verified by hash and does boot in vesa mode)

Installation completes, but then fails to finish configuring the HDD
causing the subsequent boot from grub to fail!.

Finally I have failed to burn an install DVD either on the PC or a
laptop, it also failing multiple times! Hence my attempts to update from
Fedora 14 appear to have been thwarted and I'm somewhat annoyed!!

After this much trouble I am becoming seriously disillusioned with Fedora!!!

Breaking news!!! I have a flaky Fedora 16 running on my PC, here's
roughly how:

Installed from KDE spin CD
Ran update from network install CD, (multiple times due to failures)

still cannot boot the latest kernel though, and it appears to crash far
more frequently than I'd expect. Bottom line is I'm still not going to
try updating my laptop from Fedora 14 until I see Fedora 16/17 become a
lot more stable!

cpp4ever
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Re: Password request after resuming from suspend/hibernation

2012-03-01 Thread ny6p01
On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 09:26:58AM +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> If I resume from suspend on my desktop box I'm asked for the login
> password. But after resuming from hibernation, no password is requested.
> 
> Questions:
> 
> 1. why this difference?
> 2. is it possible to adapt these two cases?
> 
> Kind regards
> 
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> 
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> 


I'm not in my Fedora Box at the moment, but IIRC, there is a setting under
Power management configuration for that.

Terry

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Re: how to start fvwm from the console command line?

2012-03-01 Thread ny6p01
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 09:04:01AM -0700, stan wrote:
> I'm looking at alternative window managers to Gnome fallback, the only
> Gnome my old hardware and work preference will support.  The more I
> investigate fvwm, the more it seems like a nice stable,
> extremely configurable solution to my problem.  The modular concept is
> great, and the ability to program behavior in a scripting language and
> interface seemlessly to the wm seems like a nice idea too.  Sure, there
> is a learning curve, and no GUI configuration, but I can come to my
> perfect setup, and won't need to worry about dependency on the latest
> bee someone has in their bonnet about what constitutes a modern GUI.
> Well, at least until I updgrade my hardware, and maybe not even then.
> 
> There is a problem though.  How do I start fvwm from a console?  What
> is the command for fvwm corresponding to startx or startxfce4?  I found 
> XSESSION=fvwm2 startx -- :1 vt11
> and that works, but seems to just start the regular Gnome fallback
> mode that startx by itself does.  Maybe this is so well known that no
> one bothers documenting it, but I couldn't find it on the web.  
> 
> Anyone have an answer?

Not familiar with fvwm, but I have 4 wm's that I run on a regular basis, and
what I have done is make a little shell script:

#!/bin/bash
#Window Manager Chooser Script
XINIT=/home/rh/.xinitrc
if [ -e "$XINIT" ]; then
rm /home/rh/.xinitrc
 else
echo '*** No .xinitrc found; will create new one.'
fi
echo -e "\n"
echo -e "\n"
echo Hello, $USER\! Which WM will it be this time?
echo -e "\n"
echo 'FBOX (type 'fb'); E17 (type 'e'); OPENBOX (type 'ob'); XTERM (type 'xt'):'
echo 'Type Ctl-C or "quit" to exit.'
read WMGR
if[ "$WMGR" = fb ]; then
echo 'exec startfluxbox' >> /home/rh/.xinitrc
echo 'Starting Fluxbox...'
sleep 3
startx
exit 1
elif[ "$WMGR" = ob ]; then
echo 'exec openbox-session' >> /home/rh/.xinitrc
echo 'Starting Openbox...'
sleep 3
startx
exit 1
elif   [ "$WMGR" = e ]; then
echo 'xset b off s 1 -dpms &' >> /home/rh/.xinitrc
echo 'exec enlightenment_start' >> /home/rh/.xinitrc
echo 'Starting E17...'
sleep 3
startx
exit 1
elif   [ "$WMGR" = xt ]; then
echo 'exec xterm' >> /home/rh/.xinitrc
echo 'Starting X with xterm...'
sleep 3
startx
exit 1
else
echo 'Exiting...'
exit 1
fi
  fi

I don't know if this answers your question, but maybe it helps. :)

Terry

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Re: gphoto2 image directory -

2012-03-01 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 01/03/12 14:30, Michael Cronenworth wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:

Can someone tell me how/where to set where the gphoto2 image
files are stored? I don't want them dumped to /home/bobg/.

I can find all kinds of information except this most basic need.


I don't use gphoto2, but does it write to the current working directory?

Can you try running it from inside the directory you want the files to 
be written to?


   Ah yes, it didn't occur to me to try that. However I wonder if
   there isn't a place to set it to always copy to
   /home/bobg/Pictures/digicam/ ?

   I'll just make a note to always start from that directory. There
   are just too many other problems to deal with like the F16 XFCE
   Live Spin requires that I run USB devices as root or set
   "setfacl -m u:bobg:rw- /dev/bus/usb/001/003" each time I start.

   And now I bought a set of lectures on DVD and find I can't play
   DVD's!

   Aargh!

   Thank you for the help,

   Bob


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Re: During boot keyboard not working for passphrase

2012-03-01 Thread Rick Stevens

On 03/01/2012 04:59 AM, Patrick Lists wrote:

Hi all,

On a box with F16 x86_64 I have two disks in RAID1 (Linux software raid)
and an encrypted root and swap partition. The box has a wireless
Logitech K520 USB keyboard.

In the past this worked fine: I boot the box, select a kernel if
required, the kernel boots, when asked I enter the passphrase with the
wireless USB keyboard and F16 boots fine into GNOME and I can enter my
login password fine with the wireless USB keyboard.

Now not so good: I boot the box, I can use the wireless USB keyboard to
select a kernel, the kernel boots, I get asked for the passphrase, my
wireless USB keyboard no longer works, I attach a wired USB keyboard,
enter the passphrase and then F16 boots fine. Once I get to the GNOME
login screen I can use the wireless USB keyboard fine again.

So during boot my wireless USB keyboard stops working. This happens with
all currently installed kernels: 3.2.3, 3.2.5 and 3.2.6. The wireless
USB keyboard used to work fine when asked for the passphrase.

Anyone have a suggestion how I can fix this?


Check the boot ramdisk to make sure the wireless keyboard driver is
included.  Not sure which "hid" driver it'd be, but I'd check.  In my
case it's "hidp" (I use a bluetooth keyboard).
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Re: gphoto2 image directory -

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Cronenworth

Bob Goodwin wrote:

Can someone tell me how/where to set where the gphoto2 image
files are stored? I don't want them dumped to /home/bobg/.

I can find all kinds of information except this most basic need.


I don't use gphoto2, but does it write to the current working directory?

Can you try running it from inside the directory you want the files to 
be written to?

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Re: F16 installation problems

2012-03-01 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 03:05:44PM +, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote:
> 
> I have tried to do a network install of Fedora 16 multiple times, but it
> has failed every time! More to the point I also discovered that the
> anaconda install ignores changes I requested for the partition layout.
> Excuse me for suggesting this, but Fedora 15 and 16 releases seem to be
> the most troublesome releases ever, even exceeding the problems of the
> transition to KDE 4. In fact I'm beginning to lose patience with Fedora
> and will probably look at switching to another distro, so all
> suggestions of an alternative stable KDE distribution are welcome.

If you can describe exactly what you did, it would be easier to offer
advice or help.  For instance, a blow-by-blow of what you did at the
partitioning screen would be useful.

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Re: Alternative to a Pogoplug

2012-03-01 Thread Robert Moskowitz
For now I am backing away from the Pogoplug.  I found a mini-itx system 
quite afordable on ebay to use as my new server.


I will follow the Raspberry Pi development and hope that it will move 
from just boards to nice little systems that run current Fedora.  This 
system presents a major gateway for Fedora into a lot of embedded 
applications.


On 02/29/2012 08:31 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 02/29/2012 06:58 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 10:14 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 02/29/2012 09:52 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:

On 29/02/12 09:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 02/29/2012 04:42 AM, mike cloaked wrote:

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Robert
Moskowitz   wrote:

On 02/28/2012 03:04 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:52:23 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


Any recommendations?

newegg.com has a "bookshelf computers" category I was
glancing at the other day. Perhaps one of them
would be good?

Pricey.  The cheapest is $85 and it seems to be just the system
with no
memory.  I MIGHT have memory here from a system that smoked, but I
can't
tell...
I don't know where you have been looking for prices but in one of 
the

UK supplier's web pages it is offered as the model B with memory for
£21.60 which is way less than the $85 that you quoted!

Are you mixing newegg.com online catalog with Rasberry Pi?

Here is what I found on newegg...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856501004



Do you have to buy the processor separately?

"Other Thoughts: Very easy to assemble this system, even
though it is very tight. Solid build quality and lot of
though went into the design. I like the custom 
heatsink. The

system runs cool, but the fans make some clicking sound, I
may need to talk to the support on that.

Overall a good buy if you have one of those old core i3
clarkdale CPUs lying around."

Bob

Oh, I missed that one!  Seems like this is a REALLY barebones box!

I understand the goals of pogoplug and Raspberry Pi and their use of 
ARM

processors and little memory.

But I want things that are a bit more common and not needing special
compiling and the like.  Therefore Intel type architecture and 1Gb
memory.  So I do not expect to find this for $50, other than used and
then it won't be low power.

http://www.fxitech.com/products/

$200, Linux or Android, looks like a pendrive.


Impressive.

Out of my budget, though.


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gphoto2 image directory -

2012-03-01 Thread Bob Goodwin

   Can someone tell me how/where to set where the gphoto2 image
   files are stored? I don't want them dumped to /home/bobg/.

   I can find all kinds of information except this most basic need.

   Thanks,

   Bob


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Re: Badblocks on the hd.

2012-03-01 Thread Jim

On 03/01/2012 04:13 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:

/sbin/badblocks

has informed that there are 5 bad blocks on a hd.
Not in a position to replace at the moment,
Only dust in the wallet.

Had a look at e2fsck
man e2fsck

-l filename
-L filename

Is the "filename" automatically created.
or something I need do.
The fs is ext4.

To my mad eyes it looks like:
e2fsck -ccvp (as single user?)

Have you heard of Spinrite it fixes many bad sectors on hard drives, it 
ain't free.

http://www.grc.com/cs/prepurch.htm

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Re: how to start fvwm from the console command line?

2012-03-01 Thread stan
On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 07:26:42 -0600
Ranjan Maitra  wrote:

> Just curious, has anyone tried pekwm yet? www.pekwm.org, and it is in
> the Fedora repositories. 

Haven't tried it.  Yet, at least.  Now that you have pointed it out,
I will probably give it a whirl.  The site below has a comprehensive
list of window managers for linux, with links and brief comments.
http://www.gilesorr.com/wm/table.html
It suggests pekwm behaves like a derivative of aewm++ with window
grouping like PWM and fluxbox.  And no, I don't know what that means,
though he does say that he likes it.

> 
> Also, is it possible to make a LiveCD with a WM environment (not with
> a DE)? 

Of course it's possible. ;-)  The question I think you are asking is if
there exists a mechanism to provide that easily, and I think the answer
is no.  However, it should be possible to take the image of a desktop
iso that exists, mount it locally, copy it so it is rw, modify it to
your needs (change applications, configuration), and then recreate a
new iso from the modified copy.  Burn to CD, and you then have your
custom live CD.  I haven't actually done this, so theoretical musings
only, the implementation left as an exercise for the reader. :-)
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F16 installation problems

2012-03-01 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930

I have tried to do a network install of Fedora 16 multiple times, but it
has failed every time! More to the point I also discovered that the
anaconda install ignores changes I requested for the partition layout.
Excuse me for suggesting this, but Fedora 15 and 16 releases seem to be
the most troublesome releases ever, even exceeding the problems of the
transition to KDE 4. In fact I'm beginning to lose patience with Fedora
and will probably look at switching to another distro, so all
suggestions of an alternative stable KDE distribution are welcome.

cpp4ever
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Re: synchronize time

2012-03-01 Thread jdow

On 2012/03/01 06:28, Aaron Konstam wrote:

Sometimes I wonder if we are all speaking the same language. I can't
comment on what VirtualBox does, nor what Windows 7 does, but here is my
experience.

My hardware was set to UTC time. My system time was set to local time
CDT. But until UTC was checked in the system-config-date GUI, nether
cups printer browsing would work nor would ntpd stay running.


Odds are it was something else in your setup. And don't forget, I tend to
administer via command prompts via ssh into the machine. That can make a
BIG difference. On the commandline "ntpq" is a nice friend.

I vaguely remember going through this hassle back with xntp when it was a
new thing. I got it tamed and that taming moves with me as I move onwards
in distros. I always use ntpdate to prime the pump, though. That might be
some of the magic. Some other parts of the magic is make sure ntpd or ntpdate
does not try to run before the outside network is up AND the firewall is
configured. I load the outside net "by hand" very late in the startup
sequence and have ifup-local fire off some startup commands for the likes
of fetchmail, ntp, and firewall configuration.

{^_^}
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Re: synchronize time

2012-03-01 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 16:02 -0800, jdow wrote: 
> On 2012/02/29 06:33, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 14:10 -0800, jdow wrote:
> >> On 2012/02/28 07:38, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 18:06 -0800, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> 
> 
>  On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Patrick Dupre
> wrote:
>    Hello,
> 
>    I am runing chrony
>    chronyd.service - NTP client/server
> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/chronyd.service;
>    enabled)
> Active: active (running) since Mon, 27 Feb 2012
>    22:42:01 +0100; 35min ago
>   Main PID: 4150 (chronyd)
> CGroup: name=systemd:/system/chronyd.service
> └ 4150 /usr/sbin/chronyd -u chrony
> 
>    but my clock is still not on time.
>    How can I synchronize is manually (before I sued to do ntpdate
>    time.server.
> 
> >>> Run: system-config-date
> >>> and in the Time Zone display be sure UTC is checked.
> >>
> >> Unless somebody broke ntp that last is in no way required. It has never 
> >> been
> >> required. It doesn't even seem to require the motherboard clock to be set 
> >> to
> >> UTC.
> >>
> >> {^_^}
> >
> > Although it is always good to hear from jdow her statement is wrong. Tim
> > Waugh and I spent at least a month trying to debug the fact that on my
> > network printer browsing did not work. After a lot of agony and
> > searching log files we found that the problem was the print client was
> > jumping around in time so the server got confused about the browsing and
> > just gave up. Also ntpd would quit shortly after it was started. The
> > problem was fixed by checking UTC in the system-config-date display.
> 
> I cannot speak to chrony. But I've been running ntp happily since it was xntp.
> 
> On my SL6.2 virtual test machines which run in VirtualBox hosted on Win 7 the
> clocks are all set, properly, to Los Angeles time. ntp locks right up slick
> as you could ask. I do take back the bit about motherboard running UTC. I
> notice VirtualBox has the UTC checkbox ticked. So motherboard is UTC. I
> believe there is a configuration setting for NTP to handle that. But the
> timezone setting certainly does not have to he UTC.
> 
> [jdow@sl6 ~]$ date;date -u
> Wed Feb 29 15:49:08 PST 2012
> Wed Feb 29 23:49:08 UTC 2012
> 
> ntpq> peers
>   remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  
> jitter
> ==
> +we.love.servers 192.43.244.182 u   29   64  377   36.411  -84.322  10.851
> +64.73.32.134192.36.143.150   2 u1   64  377   85.706  -101.83  11.770
> -mirror  204.9.54.119 2 u   46   64  377   83.161  -69.662  21.143
> *me2.x.x 69.25.96.13  2 u   44   64  3770.431  -97.046  13.406
> 
> 
> On the SL6.2 firewall machine the motherboard clock is set to UTC, the system
> is set to Los Angeles time.
> [jdow@me2 ~]$ date;date -u
> Wed Feb 29 15:49:43 PST 2012
> Wed Feb 29 23:49:43 UTC 2012
> 
> It setup this way mostly right out of the box. I had OTHER problems porting
> in my very historically based configuration; but, ntp was no big deal.
> 
> (SELinux is a borked pain in the asterisk. I leave it running. But I am less
> and less enthused by it every day. It, dhcpd, named, and SpamAssassin don't
> seem to get along well together when dhcpd is supposed to update a useful
> dhcpd setup. And some how named gets MANY hanging locks that make it
> impossible to shut it down gracefully.)
> 
> This is the important part of the setup.
> ===8<---
> driftfile /var/lib/ntp/drift
> restrict -6 default kod nomodify notrap nopeer noquery
> restrict 127.0.0.1
> restrict -6 ::1
> server 0.rhel.pool.ntp.org iburst
> server 1.rhel.pool.ntp.org iburst
> server 2.rhel.pool.ntp.org iburst
> includefile /etc/ntp/crypto/pw
> keys /etc/ntp/keys
> #trustedkey 4 8 42
> ===8<---
> 
> /etc/sysconfig/clock:
> ZONE="America/Los Angeles"
> 
> The virtual machines are similar:
> ===8<---
> driftfile /var/lib/ntp/drift
> restrict default kod nomodify notrap nopeer noquery
> restrict -6 default kod nomodify notrap nopeer noquery
> restrict 127.0.0.1
> restrict -6 ::1
> 
> server 0.rhel.pool.ntp.org iburst
> server 1.rhel.pool.ntp.org iburst
> server 2.rhel.pool.ntp.org iburst
> 
> includefile /etc/ntp/crypto/pw
> keys /etc/ntp/keys
> 
> # new machine (A pointer to the local server)
> server 192.168.xx.1
> ===8<---
> 
> /etc/sysconfig/clock:
> ZONE="America/Los Angeles"
> 
> 
> 
> {^_^}

Sometimes I wonder if we are all speaking the same language. I can't
comment on what VirtualBox does, nor what Windows 7 does, but here is my
experience.

My hardware was set to UTC time. My system time was set to local time
CDT. But until UTC was checked in the system-config-date GUI, nether
cups printer brow

Re: synchronize time

2012-03-01 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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Hash: SHA1

On 02/29/2012 07:02 PM, jdow wrote:
> On 2012/02/29 06:33, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>> On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 14:10 -0800, jdow wrote:
>>> On 2012/02/28 07:38, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 18:06 -0800, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Patrick Dupre 
>wrote: Hello,
> 
> I am runing chrony chronyd.service - NTP client/server 
> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/chronyd.service; 
> enabled) Active: active (running) since Mon, 27 Feb 2012 
> 22:42:01 +0100; 35min ago Main PID: 4150 (chronyd) CGroup:
> name=systemd:/system/chronyd.service └ 4150
> /usr/sbin/chronyd -u chrony
> 
> but my clock is still not on time. How can I synchronize is
> manually (before I sued to do ntpdate time.server.
> 
 Run: system-config-date and in the Time Zone display be sure
 UTC is checked.
>>> 
>>> Unless somebody broke ntp that last is in no way required. It
>>> has never been required. It doesn't even seem to require the
>>> motherboard clock to be set to UTC.
>>> 
>>> {^_^}
>> 
>> Although it is always good to hear from jdow her statement is
>> wrong. Tim Waugh and I spent at least a month trying to debug the
>> fact that on my network printer browsing did not work. After a
>> lot of agony and searching log files we found that the problem
>> was the print client was jumping around in time so the server got
>> confused about the browsing and just gave up. Also ntpd would
>> quit shortly after it was started. The problem was fixed by
>> checking UTC in the system-config-date display.
> 
> I cannot speak to chrony. But I've been running ntp happily since
> it was xntp.
> 
> On my SL6.2 virtual test machines which run in VirtualBox hosted on
> Win 7 the clocks are all set, properly, to Los Angeles time. ntp
> locks right up slick as you could ask. I do take back the bit about
> motherboard running UTC. I notice VirtualBox has the UTC checkbox
> ticked. So motherboard is UTC. I believe there is a configuration
> setting for NTP to handle that. But the timezone setting certainly
> does not have to he UTC.
> 
> [jdow@sl6 ~]$ date;date -u Wed Feb 29 15:49:08 PST 2012 Wed Feb 29
> 23:49:08 UTC 2012
> 
> ntpq> peers remote   refid  st t when poll reach
> delay   offset jitter 
> ==
>
>  +we.love.servers 192.43.244.182 u   29   64  377   36.411
> -84.322 10.851 +64.73.32.134192.36.143.150   2 u1   64  377
> 85.706  -101.83 11.770 -mirror  204.9.54.119 2 u   46
> 64  377   83.161  -69.662 21.143 *me2.x.x 69.25.96.13
> 2 u   44   64  3770.431  -97.046 13.406
> 
> 
> On the SL6.2 firewall machine the motherboard clock is set to UTC,
> the system is set to Los Angeles time. [jdow@me2 ~]$ date;date -u 
> Wed Feb 29 15:49:43 PST 2012 Wed Feb 29 23:49:43 UTC 2012
> 
> It setup this way mostly right out of the box. I had OTHER problems
> porting in my very historically based configuration; but, ntp was
> no big deal.
> 
> (SELinux is a borked pain in the asterisk. I leave it running. But
> I am less and less enthused by it every day. It, dhcpd, named, and
> SpamAssassin don't seem to get along well together when dhcpd is
> supposed to update a useful dhcpd setup. And some how named gets
> MANY hanging locks that make it impossible to shut it down
> gracefully.)
> 
> This is the important part of the setup. ===8<--- driftfile
> /var/lib/ntp/drift restrict -6 default kod nomodify notrap nopeer
> noquery restrict 127.0.0.1 restrict -6 ::1 server
> 0.rhel.pool.ntp.org iburst server 1.rhel.pool.ntp.org iburst server
> 2.rhel.pool.ntp.org iburst includefile /etc/ntp/crypto/pw keys
> /etc/ntp/keys #trustedkey 4 8 42 ===8<---
> 
> /etc/sysconfig/clock: ZONE="America/Los Angeles"
> 
> The virtual machines are similar: ===8<--- driftfile
> /var/lib/ntp/drift restrict default kod nomodify notrap nopeer
> noquery restrict -6 default kod nomodify notrap nopeer noquery 
> restrict 127.0.0.1 restrict -6 ::1
> 
> server 0.rhel.pool.ntp.org iburst server 1.rhel.pool.ntp.org
> iburst server 2.rhel.pool.ntp.org iburst
> 
> includefile /etc/ntp/crypto/pw keys /etc/ntp/keys
> 
> # new machine (A pointer to the local server) server 192.168.xx.1 
> ===8<---
> 
> /etc/sysconfig/clock: ZONE="America/Los Angeles"
> 
> 
> 
> {^_^}
Please tell us the problems you are having with SELinux?  Maybe we can
fix it for everyone if you have a common configuration.  Open a
Bugzilla please.
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Re: empathy - is it for real?

2012-03-01 Thread Hiisi
On 1 March 2012 05:53, Dan Irwin  wrote:
> Hi list,
<--RANT SNIPPED-->
> Thanks for reading.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan

I had similar problems with empathy in F15. It caused X freezes
whenever new messages arrived. Then I switched to pidgin. On my
current F16 installation I decided to give it a try - at least it has
nice pop-up functionality. And everything works pretty well.
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Re: how to start fvwm from the console command line?

2012-03-01 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Just curious, has anyone tried pekwm yet? www.pekwm.org, and it is in
the Fedora repositories. 

Also, is it possible to make a LiveCD with a WM environment (not with a
DE)? 

Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan
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Re: empathy - is it for real?

2012-03-01 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 07:56:41AM -0500, Genes MailLists wrote:
>   Let others know what you find to be better alternative as that can be
> helpful as well.

He already mentioned Pidgin.

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During boot keyboard not working for passphrase

2012-03-01 Thread Patrick Lists

Hi all,

On a box with F16 x86_64 I have two disks in RAID1 (Linux software raid) 
and an encrypted root and swap partition. The box has a wireless 
Logitech K520 USB keyboard.


In the past this worked fine: I boot the box, select a kernel if 
required, the kernel boots, when asked I enter the passphrase with the 
wireless USB keyboard and F16 boots fine into GNOME and I can enter my 
login password fine with the wireless USB keyboard.


Now not so good: I boot the box, I can use the wireless USB keyboard to 
select a kernel, the kernel boots, I get asked for the passphrase, my 
wireless USB keyboard no longer works, I attach a wired USB keyboard, 
enter the passphrase and then F16 boots fine. Once I get to the GNOME 
login screen I can use the wireless USB keyboard fine again.


So during boot my wireless USB keyboard stops working. This happens with 
all currently installed kernels: 3.2.3, 3.2.5 and 3.2.6. The wireless 
USB keyboard used to work fine when asked for the passphrase.


Anyone have a suggestion how I can fix this?

Thanks!
Patrick
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Re: empathy - is it for real?

2012-03-01 Thread Genes MailLists

> On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 11:53:17AM +1000, Dan Irwin wrote:
>> Over several successive versions (Since Fedora 10), empathy has never
>> "just worked" or "worked right" on my laptop. It will crash. Modules
>> will crash. People will complain that I am signed in and ignoring
>> them, when I don't appear to have empathy even running. While I have
>> persisted with it, empathy seems exceptionally bad in Fedora 16.
> 

  I suggest you stop using it and switch to something else - file bugs
and if they are not resolved and the app is not working for you, don't
use it.

  Let others know what you find to be better alternative as that can be
helpful as well.

   gene


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Re: Portreserve on F16

2012-03-01 Thread Tim Waugh
On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 20:43 +0100, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> "systemctl status portreserve.service" says:
> 
> portreserve.service - Port reservation utility
>   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/portreserve.service; disabled)
>   Active: failed since Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:36:43 +0100; 2s ago
>   Process: 27823 ExecStart=/sbin/portreserve (code=exited, 
> status=0/SUCCESS)
>   Main PID: 27824 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
>   CGroup: name=systemd:/system/portreserve.service

Sounds like there might be stale configuration files
in /etc/portreserve/ then -- perhaps a bind() failure because systemd
already has the port.

> I don't use either...

You can just remove it then.

Tim.
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Re: empathy - is it for real?

2012-03-01 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 11:53:17AM +1000, Dan Irwin wrote:
> Over several successive versions (Since Fedora 10), empathy has never
> "just worked" or "worked right" on my laptop. It will crash. Modules
> will crash. People will complain that I am signed in and ignoring
> them, when I don't appear to have empathy even running. While I have
> persisted with it, empathy seems exceptionally bad in Fedora 16.

I've seen some Empathy crashes 6+ months ago, but nothing lately. Did
you file bugs for the crashers? Have they've been handled / forwarded
upstream?

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Re: Badblocks on the hd.

2012-03-01 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 09:13:20 +
Frank Murphy  wrote:

> /sbin/badblocks
> 
> has informed that there are 5 bad blocks on a hd.
> Not in a position to replace at the moment,
> Only dust in the wallet.
> 
> Had a look at e2fsck
> man e2fsck
> 
> -l filename
> -L filename
> 
> Is the "filename" automatically created.
> or something I need do.
> The fs is ext4.
> 
> To my mad eyes it looks like:
> e2fsck -ccvp (as single user?)


Yes -ckvp should do what you want - but

1. modern drives do block recovery and sparing themselves so when a bad
block is written it should go away again
2. if they can't it can indicate imminent total failure

So I would do the fsck to clean up any files containing the bad blocks,
then do a verify on the drive (probably easiest from the BIOS if it has
the option) and/or runm a smart test on it (see smartctl 

If you want to try and fix them you may find

http://www2.uic.edu/~aciani1/sector_blues.html

useful.
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Badblocks on the hd.

2012-03-01 Thread Frank Murphy

/sbin/badblocks

has informed that there are 5 bad blocks on a hd.
Not in a position to replace at the moment,
Only dust in the wallet.

Had a look at e2fsck
man e2fsck

-l filename
-L filename

Is the "filename" automatically created.
or something I need do.
The fs is ext4.

To my mad eyes it looks like:
e2fsck -ccvp (as single user?)

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Password request after resuming from suspend/hibernation

2012-03-01 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi,

If I resume from suspend on my desktop box I'm asked for the login
password. But after resuming from hibernation, no password is requested.

Questions:

1. why this difference?
2. is it possible to adapt these two cases?

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