Re: Network scanner

2012-12-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/03/2012 08:08 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:

I have an HP OfficeJet Pro 8600 all-in-one printer/scanner/fax/copier.
I have no trouble getting CUPS to print to it, but I'm having trouble
getting xsane to find it.  I have the hplip drivers installed, but I'm
not sure what has to be configured in xsane to get it to recognize it as
a network scanner (as opposed to USB).

Does anyone have this or a similar unit working who could provide a
step-by-step guide?


I use the webscan feature on my 8600.  This time the pdf formating 
works! (I got pdf errors with the 8500).



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Fedora 18: unable to watch Apple Trailers

2012-12-04 Thread Frank Pikelner
Hello,

Installed Fedora 18 with the following additions below, but unable to watch
trailers from Apple with either Chrome v25 or Firefox 17:

sudo yum localinstall –nogpgcheck
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm

sudo yum localinstall –nogpgcheck
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm

sudo yum install gstreamer1 gstreamer1-plugins-good
gstreamer1-plugins-bad-freeworld gstreamer1-plugins-ugly

sudo yum install vlc

sudo yum install smplayer


Any assistance appreciated.

Thank you,

Frank
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Re: ImageMagik PDF manipulation rotate, thumbnail, problems

2012-12-04 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hello Tethys,

On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 03:26:11PM +, Tethys wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Suvayu Ali  
> wrote:
> 
> > I agree with you that pdftk is excellent for manipulating pdfs, but why
> > do you say "ImageMagick is rarely the right option anyway"?  I use it
> > all the time to manipulate images (jpg, png, etc); it seems to work
> > quite well.  Please do not take my query the wrong way, I'm just curious
> > what you think ImageMagick lacks.
> 
> As with everything, there are pros and cons to each approach.
> ImageMagick tries to do everything, which results in an ever
> increasing complexity of invocation. Further, if it doesn't do what
> you want, there's very little you can do about it. Compare that with
> netpbm, which is just a traditional Unix pipeline. If it doesn't do
> what you want, you can always add an extra transformation in the
> middle of the pipeline. Netpbm will often give better quality output
> (for example, correct gamma scaling). Somewhat counter intuitively,
> netpbm turns out to be faster than ImageMagick for many operations,
> too, despite having to create more processes and pipe data between
> them. That said, ImageMagick provides some niceties like -gravity.
> Sure, you can do it with netpbm, but it requires a script to calculate
> the correct offsets, where ImageMagick provides the functionality out
> of the box.
> 

Thanks for the clarification.  I'll take a look at netpbm.

:)

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Re: ImageMagik PDF manipulation rotate, thumbnail, problems

2012-12-04 Thread Tethys
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Suvayu Ali  wrote:

> I agree with you that pdftk is excellent for manipulating pdfs, but why
> do you say "ImageMagick is rarely the right option anyway"?  I use it
> all the time to manipulate images (jpg, png, etc); it seems to work
> quite well.  Please do not take my query the wrong way, I'm just curious
> what you think ImageMagick lacks.

As with everything, there are pros and cons to each approach.
ImageMagick tries to do everything, which results in an ever
increasing complexity of invocation. Further, if it doesn't do what
you want, there's very little you can do about it. Compare that with
netpbm, which is just a traditional Unix pipeline. If it doesn't do
what you want, you can always add an extra transformation in the
middle of the pipeline. Netpbm will often give better quality output
(for example, correct gamma scaling). Somewhat counter intuitively,
netpbm turns out to be faster than ImageMagick for many operations,
too, despite having to create more processes and pipe data between
them. That said, ImageMagick provides some niceties like -gravity.
Sure, you can do it with netpbm, but it requires a script to calculate
the correct offsets, where ImageMagick provides the functionality out
of the box.

Tet

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Re: ImageMagik PDF manipulation rotate, thumbnail, problems

2012-12-04 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Tuesday 04 December 2012 12:01:57 Tethys wrote:
> Use the right tool for the job, which in this case isn't ImageMagick:
>
>   pdftk $1 cat 1-endS output $2
>
> In general, ImageMagick is rarely the right option anyway. Here, pdftk
> is better for manipulating pdf files, and netpbm is usually better for
> images. I'd be using pdftoppm to create the thumbnails, for example
> (although it would need a small script to convert them to a more suitable
> format afterwards -- either png or jpg).
>
> Tet

Thanks for this Tet, works a treat.

Also doesn't balloon the file size like convert did.

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Re: ImageMagik PDF manipulation rotate, thumbnail, problems

2012-12-04 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 12:01:57PM +, Tethys wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Gary Stainburn
>  wrote:
> 
> > Because some people don't know which way up to put pages into a fax machine 
> > I
> > also give the user the ability to invert a fax by calling
> >
> > /usr/bin/convert $1 -rotate 180 $2
> >
> > However, the resulting PDF file is very poor quality so I changed this to
> >
> > /usr/bin/convert $1 -density 300x300 -rotate 180 $2
> 
> Use the right tool for the job, which in this case isn't ImageMagick:
> 
>   pdftk $1 cat 1-endS output $2
> 
> In general, ImageMagick is rarely the right option anyway.

I agree with you that pdftk is excellent for manipulating pdfs, but why
do you say "ImageMagick is rarely the right option anyway"?  I use it
all the time to manipulate images (jpg, png, etc); it seems to work
quite well.  Please do not take my query the wrong way, I'm just curious
what you think ImageMagick lacks.

Cheers,

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Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-12-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 12:13:37AM +1030, Tim wrote:
> > Actually, I think it's not just okay to talk about upcoming changes
> > here, but a really good idea. I apologize for just giving the Gnome
> > version and not mentioning the corresponding Fedora version, but in
> > any case I was not talking about testing Fedora or commenting on the
> > test release -- just noting what's coming up for all Gnome users. 
[..]
> i.e. My comment about right-clicking on the icon to get to the
> configuration options, that seems that nobody on this list with
> NetworkManager configuration problems EVER bothers to bloody try out
> before posting messages about it not working.  And your, misleading in

Presumably that's part of the justification for removing it.

> this context, comment about there being no difference between left or
> right clicking.  Misleading, because with the current, and prior
> releases, there is an important difference.

Again, I apologize for not being explicit that I was referring to the Gnome
release in the upcoming Fedora version. The point was, and remains: that
difference is going away, so in a relatively short time that advice will
need to be updated, even though it's helpful today.

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Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-12-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 09:02:07AM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> The Fedora Test List is for discussing all testing of Fedora-related
> software, not just unreleased distros. The User list (i.e. this one) is

Sure. But I wasn't talking about testing at all.

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Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-12-04 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2012, jarmo sent:
> I think, networkmanager is separate program. Can be used in KDE also.
> Both has Applet which have their behaviours with left/right mouse
> clicks. 

Yes, NetworkManager is the underlying system that takes care of
automatically (*) managing the network.  And there are various separate
things that can be used for the user to interface with it.

* To emphasise the point, for those that don't seem to get it,
"automatic" means to take predetermined decisions based on provided data
(i.e. DHCP, or the lack of it).  Not magically make the network work,
even when the necessary parts of such automatic network configuration
are not present, or the user wants something contrary.

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Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-12-04 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 03 December 2012, Matthew Miller sent:
> Actually, I think it's not just okay to talk about upcoming changes
> here, but a really good idea. I apologize for just giving the Gnome
> version and not mentioning the corresponding Fedora version, but in
> any case I was not talking about testing Fedora or commenting on the
> test release -- just noting what's coming up for all Gnome users. 

There's a difference between talking about what comes next, and just
talking about something that isn't in the release yet as if it pertains
to an issue someone is having with a current release.

i.e. My comment about right-clicking on the icon to get to the
configuration options, that seems that nobody on this list with
NetworkManager configuration problems EVER bothers to bloody try out
before posting messages about it not working.  And your, misleading in
this context, comment about there being no difference between left or
right clicking.  Misleading, because with the current, and prior
releases, there is an important difference.

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Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-12-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 22:49 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 01:50:18PM +1030, Tim wrote:
> > >> Well, what version are you using?  I'm on Fedora 17, now.  The current
> > >> release of Fedora.  My Gnome desktop has different results for left or
> > >> right clicking on the NetworkManager icon.
> > > Yep -- that's Gnome 3.4. In the upcoming F18 release, Gnome 3.6 changes 
> > > the
> > > behavior. 
> > Well, on *this* list, we discuss using the current releases.  If someone
> > wants to bring up things that don't exist yet, they should be using the
> > test list.
> 
> Actually, I think it's not just okay to talk about upcoming changes here,
> but a really good idea. I apologize for just giving the Gnome version and
> not mentioning the corresponding Fedora version, but in any case I was not
> talking about testing Fedora or commenting on the test release -- just
> noting what's coming up for all Gnome users.

The Fedora Test List is for discussing all testing of Fedora-related
software, not just unreleased distros. The User list (i.e. this one) is
for discussing released versions that are still supported. Note that not
everyone on the Test list reads the Users list, so posting on Users when
you want to comment on unreleased components is going to miss at least
some of the audience who might want to read your post (and of course
cross-posting is frowned on as well).

poc

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Re: ImageMagik PDF manipulation rotate, thumbnail, problems

2012-12-04 Thread Tethys
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Gary Stainburn
 wrote:

> Because some people don't know which way up to put pages into a fax machine I
> also give the user the ability to invert a fax by calling
>
> /usr/bin/convert $1 -rotate 180 $2
>
> However, the resulting PDF file is very poor quality so I changed this to
>
> /usr/bin/convert $1 -density 300x300 -rotate 180 $2

Use the right tool for the job, which in this case isn't ImageMagick:

pdftk $1 cat 1-endS output $2

In general, ImageMagick is rarely the right option anyway. Here, pdftk
is better for manipulating pdf files, and netpbm is usually better for
images. I'd be using pdftoppm to create the thumbnails, for example
(although it would need a small script to convert them to a more suitable
format afterwards -- either png or jpg).

Tet

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Re: Network scanner

2012-12-04 Thread Tim Waugh
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 01:08 +, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> I have an HP OfficeJet Pro 8600 all-in-one printer/scanner/fax/copier.
> I have no trouble getting CUPS to print to it, but I'm having trouble
> getting xsane to find it.  I have the hplip drivers installed, but I'm
> not sure what has to be configured in xsane to get it to recognize it as
> a network scanner (as opposed to USB).

In order to get libsane-hpaio, the part of HPLIP responsible for
scanning, to know where the scanner is you have to have a CUPS queue
configured for the printer function of the device using the "hp"
backend.  All libsane-hpaio does for "network scanning" is look through
the configured CUPS queues to see which ones have a device URI starting
with "hp:/...".

Tim.
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ImageMagik PDF manipulation rotate, thumbnail, problems

2012-12-04 Thread Gary Stainburn
I'm writing a fax document import facility. We receive faxes using Hylafax 
which get converted to PDF and uploaded to a web server.

My web interface then allows the PDF documents to be split into single pages 
and injected into a database.

I create the thimbnails by calling 

convert -thumbnail 450 $1 ${1}.jpg

which creates a series of JPEG files one for each page.

Because some people don't know which way up to put pages into a fax machine I 
also give the user the ability to invert a fax by calling

/usr/bin/convert $1 -rotate 180 $2

However, the resulting PDF file is very poor quality so I changed this to

/usr/bin/convert $1 -density 300x300 -rotate 180 $2

which fixed the quality in the PDF file which then looks as good as the 
original, but is now the right way up.

My problem is then that if I use this new PDF file to create the thumbnails 
using the top convert command the resulting image is still the same size, but 
the whole of the contents of the page is squashed in the bottom left corner 
and the rest of the image is plain while.

Can anyone help with this?
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