Re: FedUp: best plan?

[Phil Dobbin]

On 01/17/2013 01:59 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:41:41AM +, Phil Dobbin wrote:
>> Hi, all.
>>
>> I've been watching the developments regarding everybody trying to
>> upgrade via FedUp & can anyone advise me whether issuing:
>>
>> 'sudo fedup-cli —network 18 —debuglog fedupdebug.log'
>>
>> is still the recommended way to approach the upgrade?
>>
>> I'm running a rock solid Fedora 17 with all updates applied & intend to
>> disable any extra repos that I have personally added to sources by hand.
> 
> I would recommend not to use fedup.  I'm facing a lot of troubles after
> going the fedup route.  Although not officially supported, you could try
> upgrading via yum.  It has been reliably working for people across
> multiple releases.

Mmm. I'm not really sure about using yum. If FedUp is the approved
method, I'm at least going to try it.

I've been running several versions of 18 for quite some time now either
on a physical machine or a virtual one without too many problems so I'll
think I'll spin up another couple of KVM VMs & try using FedUp in them
first & report my findings good or otherwise via the appropriate channels.

If FedUp is as unreliable as you say, it's a pretty serious bug that
needs addressing as soon as possible.

Cheers,

  Phil...

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fedup with VBox VM - Notes

[Ed Greshko]

For those who may be doing the same..

I had a fully updated F17-32 system with GNOME, KDE, LXDE, OpenBox, and Xfce 
installed.  It was running just fine with gdm running as the window manager.  I 
also had the Vbox Guest Additions installed.  To get a running F18 system I did 
the following

1.  Disabled the 3rd party repos for adobe, google-chrome, and rpmfusion

2.  I then ran "sudo fedup --network 18 --debuglog fedupdebug.log" and rebooted 
when prompted.

3.  The upgrade proceeded with the flashing Fedora icon and then rebooted when 
finished.

4.  The boot process then appeared to hang at the end with the Fedora icon 
shown.  To fix that it was necessary to boot to multi-user mode and reinstall 
the Vbox Guest Additions.

5.  Rebooted and it came up OK.  My desktop is KDE and logging into it went as 
expected.  I then did a "yum distro-sync" since from other posts it appears 
that some F17 packages are newer than those of F18. 

6.  Logging in to the GNOME environment also went well.

So, the "failures" reported in a different thread were most likely due to 
having the 3rd party MATE repo defined and active.



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wireless network fails f18

[Steven Stern]

After being up for about 15 minutes, the wireless network disappears. I
have to reboot to restore functionality.

Ralink corp. RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe

F18, 64 bit

This is the log at the time it cr*ps out:

Jan 16 23:22:18 sds-desk-2 kernel: [  535.433650] dmar: DRHD: handling
fault status reg 2
Jan 16 23:22:18 sds-desk-2 kernel: [  535.433657] dmar: DMAR:[DMA Read]
Request device [03:00.0] fault addr fffbb000
Jan 16 23:22:18 sds-desk-2 kernel: [  535.433657] DMAR:[fault reason 06]
PTE Read access is not set
Jan 16 23:22:20 sds-desk-2 kernel: [  536.935544] cfg80211: Calling CRDA
to update world regulatory domain
Jan 16 23:22:20 sds-desk-2 NetworkManager[851]:  (wlan0):
supplicant interface state: completed -> disconnected
Jan 16 23:22:20 sds-desk-2 kernel: [  536.943475] cfg80211: World
regulatory domain updated:
Jan 16 23:22:20 sds-desk-2 kernel: [  536.943479] cfg80211:
(start_freq - end_freq @ bandwidth), (max_antenna_gain, max_eirp)
Jan 16 23:22:20 sds-desk-2 kernel: [  536.943481] cfg80211:   (2402000
KHz - 2472000 KHz @ 4 KHz), (300 mBi, 2000 mBm)
Jan 16 23:22:20 sds-desk-2 kernel: [  536.943483] cfg80211:   (2457000
KHz - 2482000 KHz @ 2 KHz), (300 mBi, 2000 mBm)
Jan 16 23:22:20 sds-desk-2 kernel: [  536.943485] cfg80211:   (2474000
KHz - 2494000 KHz @ 2 KHz), (300 mBi, 2000 mBm)
Jan 16 23:22:20 sds-desk-2 kernel: [  536.943487] cfg80211:   (517
KHz - 525 KHz @ 4 KHz), (300 mBi, 2000 mBm)
Jan 16 23:22:20 sds-desk-2 kernel: [  536.943489] cfg80211:   (5735000
KHz - 5835000 KHz @ 4 KHz), (300 mBi, 2000 mBm)
Jan 16 23:22:20 sds-desk-2 NetworkManager[851]:  (wlan0):
supplicant interface state: disconnected -> scanning
Jan 16 23:22:34 sds-desk-2 NetworkManager[851]:  (wlan0): link
timed out.
Jan 16 23:22:34 sds-desk-2 NetworkManager[851]:  (wlan0): device
state change: activated -> failed (reason 'SSID not found') [100 120 53]
Jan 16 23:22:34 sds-desk-2 NetworkManager[851]:  Activation
(wlan0) failed for connection 'Auto Bandit'
Jan 16 23:22:34 sds-desk-2 dbus-daemon[706]: dbus[706]: [system]
Activating service name='org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' (using
servicehelper)
Jan 16 23:22:34 sds-desk-2 dbus[706]: [system] Activating service
name='org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' (using servicehelper)
Jan 16 23:22:34 sds-desk-2 NetworkManager[851]:  (wlan0): device
state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0]
Jan 16 23:22:34 sds-desk-2 NetworkManager[851]:  (wlan0):
deactivating device (reason 'none') [0]
Jan 16 23:22:34 sds-desk-2 dbus-daemon[706]: dbus[706]: [system]
Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
Jan 16 23:22:34 sds-desk-2 dbus[706]: [system] Successfully activated
service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
Jan 16 23:22:35 sds-desk-2 NetworkManager[851]:  (wlan0): canceled
DHCP transaction, DHCP client pid 1350
Jan 16 23:22:35 sds-desk-2 avahi-daemon[701]: Withdrawing address record
for 192.168.123.114 on wlan0.
Jan 16 23:22:35 sds-desk-2 avahi-daemon[701]: Leaving mDNS multicast
group on interface wlan0.IPv4 with address 192.168.123.114.
Jan 16 23:22:35 sds-desk-2 avahi-daemon[701]: Interface wlan0.IPv4 no
longer relevant for mDNS.
Jan 16 23:22:35 sds-desk-2 NetworkManager[851]:  (wlan0):
supplicant interface state: scanning -> disconnected
Jan 16 23:22:37 sds-desk-2 nm-dispatcher.action: Script
'/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/10-sendmail' took too long; killing it.




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Re: Fedup for LVM?

[Gordon Messmer]

On 01/16/2013 05:33 AM, Steve Berg wrote:

From what I've read it seems that
the anaconda in F18 will not be able to deal with this setup like
previous anaconda's.


Anaconda doesn't do upgrades anymore.  Other than that, if you linked to 
what you'd read, it would help explain any issues that you might face. 
I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe that your setup 
would be problematic under Anaconda (which will only do installs, not 
upgrades).



I haven't yet started to figure out a decent
kickstart since supposedly that will get around the problem.


Kickstart shouldn't present any capabilities that aren't present in 
Anaconda.



My question is about fedup.  Will fedup be able to work with this sort
of setup or should I put in the time to figure out a good kickstart config?


Yes, it should.  It'll boot the kernel that you're already running and 
do an upgrade in the running system.



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Re: Ralink 3090 not seen after fedup to f18

[Steven Stern]

On 01/16/2013 10:30 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
> After updating, I have no Wifi. The controller is an ralink RT3090. It
> shows up in lspci, but I can't access it.
> 

Never mind. I power cycled the machine and it showed up.  So far, so good.

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Ralink 3090 not seen after fedup to f18

[Steven Stern]

After updating, I have no Wifi. The controller is an ralink RT3090. It
shows up in lspci, but I can't access it.
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Re: A Look at Fedora 18

[Gordon Messmer]

On 01/16/2013 12:05 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:

I remember reading that F18 includes both Gnome 3.x and also Gnome 2.x
renamed MATE desktop?


More or less. MATE is a fork of GNOME 2.

Fedora also includes Cinnamon, now, which is an alternate shell based on 
GNOME 3, but with a more traditional panel and menu interface.

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Adwaita GTK3 on F18 no longer honors bgcolor

[Gordon Messmer]

Under Fedora 17, I was able to select an alternate background color for 
GTK2 and GTK3.  Under F18, only the GTK2 applications honor the setting. 
 Before I file a a bug, does anyone know if this behavior was an 
expected change?


$ dconf dump /org/gnome/desktop/interface/
[/]
gtk-color-scheme='selected_bg_color:#493f53;'

$ cat .gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/%gconf.xml



selected_bg_color:#493f53;


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Re: FedUp: best plan?

[Joe Zeff]

On 01/16/2013 06:42 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:

It would be very helpful if you could report those troubles. Otherwise, it's
hard to make it better.


And, unless people report these things, the devs won't know there's 
anything wrong.

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Re: FedUp: best plan?

[Ed Greshko]

On 01/17/2013 10:50 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:47:54AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Quick question in respect to this
>> Would you expect fedup to work in a Virtual Machine (Vbox) environment?
>> I've had 2 failed updates, out of 2, but both were in a Vbox machine and
>> both had a 3rd party MATE repository enabled.
> There's no reason it shouldn't. I don't think Virtual Box VMS are an
> official target, but we really should work everywhere reasonably possible.
>
> The 3rd party repo is a likely showstopper, though.
>

OK, I'll do some testing on other VMs without MATE.

Thanks

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Re: FedUp: best plan?

[Matthew Miller]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:47:54AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Quick question in respect to this
> Would you expect fedup to work in a Virtual Machine (Vbox) environment?
> I've had 2 failed updates, out of 2, but both were in a Vbox machine and
> both had a 3rd party MATE repository enabled.

There's no reason it shouldn't. I don't think Virtual Box VMS are an
official target, but we really should work everywhere reasonably possible.

The 3rd party repo is a likely showstopper, though.

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Re: FedUp: best plan?

[Ed Greshko]

On 01/17/2013 10:42 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 02:59:35AM +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>> I would recommend not to use fedup.  I'm facing a lot of troubles after
>> going the fedup route.  Although not officially supported, you could try
>> upgrading via yum.  It has been reliably working for people across
>> multiple releases.
> It would be very helpful if you could report those troubles. Otherwise, it's
> hard to make it better.
>

Quick question in respect to this

Would you expect fedup to work in a Virtual Machine (Vbox) environment?  I've 
had 2 failed updates, out of 2, but both were in a Vbox machine and both had a 
3rd party MATE repository enabled.



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Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

[g]

On 01/13/2013 10:03 AM, g wrote:
> why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my
> via my subscription and sometimes i do not?

[*solved*]

get a hunch. bet a bunch.

as it turns out the ???great and wonderful??? yahoo has done it again.

for some strange and yet to be know reason, yahoo has been marking emails
from this list and 2 others that i subscribe to.

in a desperate hope of finding a link to someone at the ???great and
wonderful??? yahoo who could help me with this problem, i decided to
log att.com to look for such a link.

thinking that the place to start would be from the email page, i move
to it to see what might be shown.

what hit me in the eye as soon as email page opened was that i had 385
emails in the Spam folder. thinking that that was a lot of spam that i
had been saved from, i open the Spam folder.

needless to say, first thing i noted was that first view was all emails
from the list that i subscribe to. of the 385 "spam" emails, 3 where
actually spam.

pissed is a mild description of how i felt. PFM is closer. what was
even more aggravating, there is nothing in the email setup to disable
spam filtering. if there is, it is hidden because i looked thru ever
section of setups.

tomorrow i will be talking with at&t internet service and if they do
not offer a solution, i will be looking for a new dsl service.

it is not bad enough that i am paying for a 756k0 service and only
getting, sometimes, 78k0 download, but now i find out that the
???great and wonderful??? yahoo email service has been marking good
emails as spam and then automatically deleting them for me. what is
even worse, this has been going on for almost a full year.

and yes, i have used firefox to do online emailing. only reason i
can figure that i did not notice anything strange is because i must
have logged in when Spam folder had been so thoughtfully automatically
cleaned.

my most great full appreciation to all who took time to post to this
thread in effort to help.

to those who more of a hinder than help, you get another KAFBA. (GBWG)


later.

may God bless you all.

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Re: FedUp: best plan?

[Matthew Miller]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 02:59:35AM +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> I would recommend not to use fedup.  I'm facing a lot of troubles after
> going the fedup route.  Although not officially supported, you could try
> upgrading via yum.  It has been reliably working for people across
> multiple releases.

It would be very helpful if you could report those troubles. Otherwise, it's
hard to make it better.

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Re: FedUp: best plan?

[Suvayu Ali]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:41:41AM +, Phil Dobbin wrote:
> Hi, all.
> 
> I've been watching the developments regarding everybody trying to
> upgrade via FedUp & can anyone advise me whether issuing:
> 
> 'sudo fedup-cli —network 18 —debuglog fedupdebug.log'
> 
> is still the recommended way to approach the upgrade?
> 
> I'm running a rock solid Fedora 17 with all updates applied & intend to
> disable any extra repos that I have personally added to sources by hand.

I would recommend not to use fedup.  I'm facing a lot of troubles after
going the fedup route.  Although not officially supported, you could try
upgrading via yum.  It has been reliably working for people across
multiple releases.

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Re: f-18 scfolling -

[Joe Zeff]

On 01/16/2013 04:43 PM, Brian Mury wrote:


But why ask me? I'm not in any way involved with GNOME project. If you
don't like it (I don't either), take it up with them.


I would, but I bailed on Gnome when I read what Gnome 3 was going to be 
like.  Now, I too use Xfce and am very happy with it TYVM.

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Re: unable to get Broadcom 4312 loaded F 18

[Ranjan Maitra]

Hi Zoltan,

Thanks very much! I am happy to say that I got this resolved by
following your detailed instructions! Thanks very much!!

I do wonder if the problem with the broadcom-wl version in RPMfusions
non-free is that the broadcom-wl is for version 5.100.82 and not
5.100.138. 

Of course, I don't really know what these numbers mean.

Thanks again!

Best wishes,
Ranjan



On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:57:03 +0100 Zoltan Hoppar 
wrote:

> Just solved the problem. You should load the b43 driver.
> 
> modprobe b43
> then you'll see in dmesg that missing the right firmware.
> 
> Install some more packages that is not included to F18 by default:
> rfkill, wget, b43-openfwwf, b43-tools. (Why has been wget excluded
> from package list, no clue)
> 
> Getting the driver - Do this (without numbers at beginning - simply
> execute one by one in terminal):
> 
>1 export FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR="/lib/firmware"
>2 wget http://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
>3 tar xjf broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
>4 sudo b43-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR"
> broadcom-wl-5.100.138/linux/wl_apsta.o
> 
> If you have finished, then restart, and check that b43 driver is
> loaded or not. IF not, call 'modprobe b43', and check with dmesg that
> wifi link is active. IF yes, you should see as the network manager
> picks up the driver and you have to see as scanning for networks.
> I haven't checked yet that the driver loads after restart, but if not,
> you should check that b43 is not blacklisted.
> 
> PS: Sometimes the module gets flipped, and that you can check with
> 'rfkill list' command - that maybe blocking /or not the hw module
> (because of the real hw button), there should be all 'none'. If few is
> blocked, then rfkill can solve up, but always you need restart as you
> solving up (*not* when you listing only).
> 
> HTH. I'm writing this from F18  XFCE, and using happily my HP4515s -
> WLAN Broadcom 4312 PHY.
> 
> Zoltan
> 
> 2013/1/16 Ranjan Maitra :
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have tried to get wifi going on a Dell Latitude E5400 with the
> > Broadcom 4312 chipset.
> >
> > I did the following:
> >
> > Installed broadcom-wl from rpmfusion non-free. (This installed
> > broadcom-wl and the dependency kmod-wl.)
> >
> > Rebooted, but "nothing" happened. So, following this page
> >
> > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=239922
> >
> > I tried:
> >
> > lsmod | sort
> >
> > as well as lsmod | grep wl
> >
> > Not loaded.
> >
> > So, I went further and tried the following (to see if I could manually
> > load the module):
> >
> > sudo modprobe wl
> > FATAL: Module wl not found.
> >
> > Any suggestions? Help?
> >
> > Many thanks again!
> > Ranjan
> >
> > 
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Re: f-18 scfolling -

[Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA]

On 16/01/13 19:43, Brian Mury wrote:

Hi Joe,


It says here, quite clearly, that the OP is using Xfce, not Gnome.


Oops, you're right, I missed that. Thanks for pointing it out.


even if he were, why should he have to change themes to get back
functionality that's been standard for over a decade?


Because that's the default theme that GNOME ships with.

But why ask me? I'm not in any way involved with GNOME project. If you 
don't like it (I don't either), take it up with them.


Brian


   Yes I am using XFCE but this was not a problem with f-17 so somehow
   we have been caught up in the gnome-3 nonsense though not using it.
   I wonder what the philosophy is behind that change? It becomes very
   difficult to follow through a list of messages?

   That and doing away with Control Alternate Backspace, a command
   essential to using the equipment I have. I was able to change that
   on the other F18 box but the same change does not work on this one,
   the command freezes this computer requiring me to get another
   console, log in and su to root to reboot.

   The final thing was the loss of sound and I was about to remove the
   "fedup" install until I found I could revert back to the last F-17
   kernel and restore sound which I need for e-mail notification, I
   have voice announcements in the Thunderbird filters, don't have to
   run back to my desk to see if it's important.

   Not sure what I'll do next, tomorrow is another day.

   Thanks to all,

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Re: f-18 scfolling -

[Brian Mury]

Hi Joe,


It says here, quite clearly, that the OP is using Xfce, not Gnome.


Oops, you're right, I missed that. Thanks for pointing it out.


even if he were, why should he have to change themes to get back
functionality that's been standard for over a decade?


Because that's the default theme that GNOME ships with.

But why ask me? I'm not in any way involved with GNOME project. If you 
don't like it (I don't either), take it up with them.


Brian

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FedUp: best plan?

[Phil Dobbin]

Hi, all.

I've been watching the developments regarding everybody trying to
upgrade via FedUp & can anyone advise me whether issuing:

'sudo fedup-cli —network 18 —debuglog fedupdebug.log'

is still the recommended way to approach the upgrade?

I'm running a rock solid Fedora 17 with all updates applied & intend to
disable any extra repos that I have personally added to sources by hand.

Thanks for any pointers.

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Re: unable to get Broadcom 4312 loaded F 18

[Ranjan Maitra]

Thanks very much, Zoltan! 

Does this mean that I should yum erase broadcom-wl and kmod-wl first
(these I got from rpmfusion-nonfree)?

Thanks again!
Ranjan

On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:57:03 +0100 Zoltan Hoppar 
wrote:

> Just solved the problem. You should load the b43 driver.
> 
> modprobe b43
> then you'll see in dmesg that missing the right firmware.
> 
> Install some more packages that is not included to F18 by default:
> rfkill, wget, b43-openfwwf, b43-tools. (Why has been wget excluded
> from package list, no clue)
> 
> Getting the driver - Do this (without numbers at beginning - simply
> execute one by one in terminal):
> 
>1 export FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR="/lib/firmware"
>2 wget http://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
>3 tar xjf broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
>4 sudo b43-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR"
> broadcom-wl-5.100.138/linux/wl_apsta.o
> 
> If you have finished, then restart, and check that b43 driver is
> loaded or not. IF not, call 'modprobe b43', and check with dmesg that
> wifi link is active. IF yes, you should see as the network manager
> picks up the driver and you have to see as scanning for networks.
> I haven't checked yet that the driver loads after restart, but if not,
> you should check that b43 is not blacklisted.
> 
> PS: Sometimes the module gets flipped, and that you can check with
> 'rfkill list' command - that maybe blocking /or not the hw module
> (because of the real hw button), there should be all 'none'. If few is
> blocked, then rfkill can solve up, but always you need restart as you
> solving up (*not* when you listing only).
> 
> HTH. I'm writing this from F18  XFCE, and using happily my HP4515s -
> WLAN Broadcom 4312 PHY.
> 
> Zoltan
> 
> 2013/1/16 Ranjan Maitra :
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have tried to get wifi going on a Dell Latitude E5400 with the
> > Broadcom 4312 chipset.
> >
> > I did the following:
> >
> > Installed broadcom-wl from rpmfusion non-free. (This installed
> > broadcom-wl and the dependency kmod-wl.)
> >
> > Rebooted, but "nothing" happened. So, following this page
> >
> > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=239922
> >
> > I tried:
> >
> > lsmod | sort
> >
> > as well as lsmod | grep wl
> >
> > Not loaded.
> >
> > So, I went further and tried the following (to see if I could manually
> > load the module):
> >
> > sudo modprobe wl
> > FATAL: Module wl not found.
> >
> > Any suggestions? Help?
> >
> > Many thanks again!
> > Ranjan
> >
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Re: f-18 scfolling -

[Joe Zeff]

On 01/16/2013 04:01 PM, Brian Mury wrote:


Are you using GNOME? The default GNOME theme removed the scroll buttons
(they'll be missing in lots of other places too). Changing the theme
should bring them back.

This change was in Gnome 3.4, so you should have seen it in F17 too.

Brian

On 16-Jan-13 12:54, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:



Something has happened to the ability to scroll smoothly in
Thunderbird since upgrading two computers to F-18/64/XFCE.


It says here, quite clearly, that the OP is using Xfce, not Gnome.  And, 
even if he were, why should he have to change themes to get back 
functionality that's been standard for over a decade?

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Re: f-18 scfolling -

[Brian Mury]

Hi Bob,

Are you using GNOME? The default GNOME theme removed the scroll buttons 
(they'll be missing in lots of other places too). Changing the theme 
should bring them back.


This change was in Gnome 3.4, so you should have seen it in F17 too.

Brian

On 16-Jan-13 12:54, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:



Something has happened to the ability to scroll smoothly in
Thunderbird since upgrading two computers to F-18/64/XFCE. In the
past there has been a spot at the top and bottom of the scroll bar
where you could increment the scroll gradually. That is no longer
there in Thunderbird or Firefox. In the case of one directory in
Thunderbird where I have 6400 e-mail messages I can scroll using the
button but moving it about 5cm on the screen goes through all 6400
messages in the list, hardly fine grained!

This computer was upgraded from F-17 via "fedup' while the other one
was simply yum updated from F-18 beta. Both have the same scrolling
affliction.

Have I done something wrong?

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Re: unable to get Broadcom 4312 loaded F 18

[Zoltan Hoppar]

Hi Ranjan,

Forgot to mention - be sure that you have not an subversion of 4312.

Use this to see it - > lspci -vnn -d 14e4

More here: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices

Zoltan
2013/1/17 Zoltan Hoppar :
> Just solved the problem. You should load the b43 driver.
>
> modprobe b43
> then you'll see in dmesg that missing the right firmware.
>
> Install some more packages that is not included to F18 by default:
> rfkill, wget, b43-openfwwf, b43-tools. (Why has been wget excluded
> from package list, no clue)
>
> Getting the driver - Do this (without numbers at beginning - simply
> execute one by one in terminal):
>
>1 export FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR="/lib/firmware"
>2 wget http://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
>3 tar xjf broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
>4 sudo b43-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR"
> broadcom-wl-5.100.138/linux/wl_apsta.o
>
> If you have finished, then restart, and check that b43 driver is
> loaded or not. IF not, call 'modprobe b43', and check with dmesg that
> wifi link is active. IF yes, you should see as the network manager
> picks up the driver and you have to see as scanning for networks.
> I haven't checked yet that the driver loads after restart, but if not,
> you should check that b43 is not blacklisted.
>
> PS: Sometimes the module gets flipped, and that you can check with
> 'rfkill list' command - that maybe blocking /or not the hw module
> (because of the real hw button), there should be all 'none'. If few is
> blocked, then rfkill can solve up, but always you need restart as you
> solving up (*not* when you listing only).
>
> HTH. I'm writing this from F18  XFCE, and using happily my HP4515s -
> WLAN Broadcom 4312 PHY.
>
> Zoltan
>
> 2013/1/16 Ranjan Maitra :
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have tried to get wifi going on a Dell Latitude E5400 with the
>> Broadcom 4312 chipset.
>>
>> I did the following:
>>
>> Installed broadcom-wl from rpmfusion non-free. (This installed
>> broadcom-wl and the dependency kmod-wl.)
>>
>> Rebooted, but "nothing" happened. So, following this page
>>
>> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=239922
>>
>> I tried:
>>
>> lsmod | sort
>>
>> as well as lsmod | grep wl
>>
>> Not loaded.
>>
>> So, I went further and tried the following (to see if I could manually
>> load the module):
>>
>> sudo modprobe wl
>> FATAL: Module wl not found.
>>
>> Any suggestions? Help?
>>
>> Many thanks again!
>> Ranjan
>>
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Re: unable to get Broadcom 4312 loaded F 18

[Zoltan Hoppar]

Just solved the problem. You should load the b43 driver.

modprobe b43
then you'll see in dmesg that missing the right firmware.

Install some more packages that is not included to F18 by default:
rfkill, wget, b43-openfwwf, b43-tools. (Why has been wget excluded
from package list, no clue)

Getting the driver - Do this (without numbers at beginning - simply
execute one by one in terminal):

   1 export FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR="/lib/firmware"
   2 wget http://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
   3 tar xjf broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
   4 sudo b43-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR"
broadcom-wl-5.100.138/linux/wl_apsta.o

If you have finished, then restart, and check that b43 driver is
loaded or not. IF not, call 'modprobe b43', and check with dmesg that
wifi link is active. IF yes, you should see as the network manager
picks up the driver and you have to see as scanning for networks.
I haven't checked yet that the driver loads after restart, but if not,
you should check that b43 is not blacklisted.

PS: Sometimes the module gets flipped, and that you can check with
'rfkill list' command - that maybe blocking /or not the hw module
(because of the real hw button), there should be all 'none'. If few is
blocked, then rfkill can solve up, but always you need restart as you
solving up (*not* when you listing only).

HTH. I'm writing this from F18  XFCE, and using happily my HP4515s -
WLAN Broadcom 4312 PHY.

Zoltan

2013/1/16 Ranjan Maitra :
> Hi,
>
> I have tried to get wifi going on a Dell Latitude E5400 with the
> Broadcom 4312 chipset.
>
> I did the following:
>
> Installed broadcom-wl from rpmfusion non-free. (This installed
> broadcom-wl and the dependency kmod-wl.)
>
> Rebooted, but "nothing" happened. So, following this page
>
> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=239922
>
> I tried:
>
> lsmod | sort
>
> as well as lsmod | grep wl
>
> Not loaded.
>
> So, I went further and tried the following (to see if I could manually
> load the module):
>
> sudo modprobe wl
> FATAL: Module wl not found.
>
> Any suggestions? Help?
>
> Many thanks again!
> Ranjan
>
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Re: OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

[Gary Kline]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:13:43AM +1100, Roger wrote:
> On 01/17/2013 10:05 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> >On 01/16/2013 02:59 PM, Roger issued this missive:
> >
> >>Death is just the beginning! (Galaxy Quest)
> >
> >"Death is nature's way of dropping carrier."
> 
> >Spot On! Well said!

yup.  I also like:

"Death is nature's way of saying 'You're FIRED'."

...anybody else?


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Re: F18 wont let me admin users and groups. CIRCUMVENTION

[Erik P. Olsen]

On 16/01/13 17:16, Erik P. Olsen wrote:

On 16/01/13 16:45, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:32:12 +0100
"Erik P. Olsen"  wrote:


Nothing happens when I select Applications Menu -> Administration ->
Users and Groups. And nothing seems to be logged. I've even logged in
as root to no avail.

Any suggestions?


Are in you Xfce?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=879922

kevin




'StartupNotify=true' as mentioned in above bug report does not help :-(



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Re: OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

[Roger]

On 01/17/2013 10:05 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 01/16/2013 02:59 PM, Roger issued this missive:


Death is just the beginning! (Galaxy Quest)


"Death is nature's way of dropping carrier."



Spot On! Well said!


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Re: Fedora 18

[Matthew Miller]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 09:49:13AM +1100, Roger wrote:
> >>Sudo refused to let me use user with root permissions even after
> >>editing sudoers. More tinkering unless I'm doing the wrong thing with
> >>sudoers.
> >Since you haven't said what you actually did, nobody can give you
> >accurate advise.  All I could say was make sure you edit sudoers
> >properly, such as using visudo to do it.
> Thanks.
> I edited /etc/sudoers as root.
> This edit has always worked for me.

The advantage of visudo is that it checks to make sure the configuration is
valid before saving, so it's harder to lock yourself out of the system.

Alterately, you should be able to simply add yourself to the wheel group,
which will, in the default configuration, have the same effect with no
editing required. (You'll have to log out and in again, though.)

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Re: OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

[Rick Stevens]

On 01/16/2013 02:59 PM, Roger issued this missive:


Death is just the beginning! (Galaxy Quest)


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Re: OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

[Roger]

On 01/16/2013 10:29 PM, Ian Malone wrote:

On 16 January 2013 11:20, Frank Murphy  wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:17:49 +0100
Roberto Ragusa  wrote:


I can assure you that death *is* a big change. ;-)


  You have experienced it?
Personally, cannot say if it's a change,
only that it's guaranteed.


Well everyone who's tried it stops talking to their old friends at least.


Big change? "That's not entirely correct" (ID4)
Talking to old friends? Only because they or you choose to. There's 
nothing to stop them or you except attitude and belief barriers.

Death is just the beginning! (Galaxy Quest)

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Re: Fedora 18

[Roger]

Sudo refused to let me use user with root permissions even after
editing sudoers. More tinkering unless I'm doing the wrong thing with
sudoers.

Since you haven't said what you actually did, nobody can give you
accurate advise.  All I could say was make sure you edit sudoers
properly, such as using visudo to do it.

  

Thanks.
I edited /etc/sudoers as root.
This edit has always worked for me.

## Allow root to run any commands anywhere
rootALL=(ALL)   ALL
## added
myuser   ALL=(ALL)   ALL

No one else uses my machine.
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Re: A Look at Fedora 18

[Aaron Konstam]

On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 08:16 -0800, Dan Thurman wrote:
> On 01/15/2013 06:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > Looking at the Fedora 18 from a Live Cd I found that Gnome is following
> > the tradition of not following its tradition.
> > Clicking on Activities no longer gives you Applications item at the top.
> > Together with the standard applications on the left side of the screen
> > you get a icon that looks like a rectangle of rectangles. Clicking on
> > the at gives you the previous Application display.
> >
> > Is that progress?
> Hmm...  CD version is 889MB?  It's too big
> and I cannot create a CD (not DVD) of the
> image file.
> 
> What's up with that?
> 
> 
You can easily make a Live usb version using unetbootin.
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unable to get Broadcom 4312 loaded F 18

[Ranjan Maitra]

Hi,

I have tried to get wifi going on a Dell Latitude E5400 with the
Broadcom 4312 chipset.

I did the following:

Installed broadcom-wl from rpmfusion non-free. (This installed
broadcom-wl and the dependency kmod-wl.)

Rebooted, but "nothing" happened. So, following this page

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=239922

I tried:

lsmod | sort 

as well as lsmod | grep wl

Not loaded.

So, I went further and tried the following (to see if I could manually
load the module):

sudo modprobe wl
FATAL: Module wl not found.

Any suggestions? Help?

Many thanks again!
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f-18 scfolling -

[Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA]

   Something has happened to the ability to scroll smoothly in
   Thunderbird since upgrading two computers to F-18/64/XFCE. In the
   past there has been a spot at the top and bottom of the scroll bar
   where you could increment the scroll gradually. That is no longer
   there in Thunderbird or Firefox. In the case of one directory in
   Thunderbird where I have 6400 e-mail messages I can scroll using the
   button but moving it about 5cm on the screen goes through all 6400
   messages in the list, hardly fine grained!

   This computer was upgraded from F-17 via "fedup' while the other one
   was simply yum updated from F-18 beta. Both have the same scrolling
   affliction.

   Have I done something wrong?

   Bob

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Re: Howto fedup?

[Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA]

On 16/01/13 14:22, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 14:09 -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
wrote:

 "yum update grub" effected no change apparent to me although it did
 update.
Grub2 is recommended for F18, though not strictly required. Apparently
you need to do more than just run yum, which is why it isn't part of the
fedup-cli process. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2

poc


   Yes, I had to run "# grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg" as
   specified in that page. It now has the grub2 display in black and
   white, not as pretty as on the computer that began as F-18 Beta,
   different but functional.

   Thanks again,

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Re: Restarting fedup

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 07:03 +, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:09:04 -0430
> Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:
> 
> > So I decided to try fedup using the network install option. Spent
> > most of the day downloading over 2700 packages (I have a whole
> > 1Mbps link, woohoo), rebooted, selected the System Upgrade option,
> > then sat watching the Fedora logo fade in, fade out, fade in , fade
> > out, ... with no sign that any progress was being made. Is this
> > right?
> 
> currentl yes,
> try upgrade from telinit 3, with rhgb, quite  removed
> (or their modern equivs).
> 
> 
> > 
> > How can I avoid wasting even more hours on this? Is there no way to
> > tell fedup where to look for the new packages other than the
> > network or an ISO file?
> > 
> I don't believe so at the moment.
> no man page being available, only "fedup-cli --help"
> Unless move the downloaded files to the side.
> Use createrepo to make a local  repo.
> then:
> --repourl REPO=URL   add a repo named REPO at the given URL
> as part of a network update?

It didn't work, just went back to downloading everything again.

In fact I'm wondering if I could just put the System Upgrade line back
into grub.cfg and reboot, but I didn't make a copy of it the first time
so it would be easy to screw up.

The Update boot script removes the line from boot.cfg as almost the
first thing it does (i.e. without waiting to see if the upgrade worked),
which seems wrong, but maybe the procedure is not meant to be
idempotent. No doubt the docs explain it. Oh wait ...

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Re: Howto fedup?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 14:09 -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
wrote:
> On 16/01/13 12:07, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > That's basically just telling you the kernel version, which may not have
> > been updated due to the problems you've been having. Try looking
> > at /etc/fedora-release though it's not a reliable indicator e.g. mine
> > now says "Fedora release 18 (Spherical Cow)" even though I still haven't
> > managed to upgrade (see separate thread).
> >
> > You could try "rpm -qa \*fc17\*" to see how many F17 packages are still
> > hanging around.
> >
> > poc
> 
> I eventually did "yum update kernel"  and the boot screen shows F-18
> and uname now shows:
> 
> Linux Box7 3.7.2-201.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Jan 11 22:16:23
> UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> "yum update grub" effected no change apparent to me although it did
> update.

Grub2 is recommended for F18, though not strictly required. Apparently
you need to do more than just run yum, which is why it isn't part of the
fedup-cli process. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2

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Re: Howto fedup?

[Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA]

On 16/01/13 12:07, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

That's basically just telling you the kernel version, which may not have
been updated due to the problems you've been having. Try looking
at /etc/fedora-release though it's not a reliable indicator e.g. mine
now says "Fedora release 18 (Spherical Cow)" even though I still haven't
managed to upgrade (see separate thread).

You could try "rpm -qa \*fc17\*" to see how many F17 packages are still
hanging around.

poc


   I eventually did "yum update kernel"  and the boot screen shows F-18
   and uname now shows:

   Linux Box7 3.7.2-201.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Jan 11 22:16:23
   UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

   "yum update grub" effected no change apparent to me although it did
   update.

   One minor problem less, I wish that was all!

   Bob

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Re: Replacing a messd up 18 with live install...fail

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 11:00 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 01/16/2013 08:42 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:
> >Now, been there..done that. I reinstalled most of the groups I had
> > including the basic x system. No joy. It now appears the mesa drivers in
> > 18 will not run on my  (ancient - Intel 865B MB) machine. There have
> > been a bug or two reported but it seems that attitude is " buy a newer
> > machine" :)
> 
> Don't you just love it when people try to solve a problem by throwing 
> somebody else's money at it?

Looks more like the developers (most of whom are volunteers) have simply
decided it's not a priority. Hardly the first time it's happened, nor
will it be the last.

poc

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Re: Replacing a messd up 18 with live install...fail

[Joe Zeff]

On 01/16/2013 08:42 AM, Frank McCormick wrote:

   Now, been there..done that. I reinstalled most of the groups I had
including the basic x system. No joy. It now appears the mesa drivers in
18 will not run on my  (ancient - Intel 865B MB) machine. There have
been a bug or two reported but it seems that attitude is " buy a newer
machine" :)


Don't you just love it when people try to solve a problem by throwing 
somebody else's money at it?

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Re: o/p from fedup --network 18 --debuglog fedupdebug.log

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 13:12 -0500, JOYCE POLZIN wrote:
> 65.546] (II) fedup:message() installing package nss-mdns-0.10-11.fc18.i686 
> needs 2047MB on the / filesystem 
> [ 65.546] (DD) fedup:() Exception: 
> Traceback (most recent call last): 
> File "/bin/fedup", line 330, in  
> main(args) 
> File "/bin/fedup", line 277, in main 
> transaction_test(pkgs) 
> File "/bin/fedup", line 70, in transaction_test 
> fu.test_transaction(callback=output.TransactionCallback(numpkgs=len(pkgfiles)))
>  
> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/fedup/upgrade.py", line 177, in 
> test_transaction 
> return self.run_transaction(callback) 
> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/fedup/upgrade.py", line 169, in 
> run_transaction 
> rv = self.ts.run(callback.callback, None, probfilter) 
> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/fedup/upgrade.py", line 43, in run 
> raise TransactionError(problems) 
> TransactionError 
> [ 65.547] (II) fedup:() /bin/fedup exiting at Wed Jan 16 13:09:36 
> 2013 
> [ 65.548] (DD) fedup.upgrade:closepipe() closing log pipe 
> [ 65.548] (II) fedup.rpm:pipelogger() got EOF 
> [ 65.596] (II) fedup.rpm:pipelogger() exiting 
> 
> 
> Rc code is 3 what failed?? 

It's right there in the first line: "package nss-mdns-0.10-11.fc18.i686
needs 2047MB on the /". Evidently your root filesystem doesn't have
enough free space.

poc

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Re: chrome on f18 (fix)

[JOYCE POLZIN]

I used rpm rather than yum, downloaded the rpm directly to the machine and 
installed it. 

- Original Message -
Reindl Harald wrote: 

> 
> 
> Am 16.01.2013 18:03, schrieb Neal Becker: 
>> Mike Wohlgemuth wrote: 
>> 
>>> On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 10:11 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: 
 Well, workaround really. 
 
 /usr/lib64/libudev.so.0 -> /usr/lib64/libudev.so.1 
 
>>> 
>>> A better solution is probably: 
>>> 
>>> yum remove google-chrome-stable 
>>> yum install google-chrome-stable 
>>> 
>>> Woogie 
>>> 
>> 
>> Really? I just tried it, but looks like google-chrome-stable is still linked 
>> to libudev.so.0: 
>> 
>> ldd /opt/google/chrome/chrome | grep udev 
>> libudev.so.0 => /lib64/libudev.so.0 (0x7ff603cb) 
>> 
> 
> for me it works, there must be some magic in the rpm-scripts 
> 
> [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ldd /opt/google/chrome/chrome | grep udev 
> libudev.so.0 => not found 
> libudev.so.1 => /lib64/libudev.so.1 (0x7fbd92d17000) 

Yes, if I remove /lib64/libudev.so.0 link, and then reinstall: 

ldd /opt/google/chrome/chrome | grep udev 
libudev.so.0 => not found 
libudev.so.1 => /lib64/libudev.so.1 (0x7f3c62696000) 

which is weird, but somehow seems to work 

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Re: chrome on f18 (fix)

[Neal Becker]

Reindl Harald wrote:

> 
> 
> Am 16.01.2013 18:03, schrieb Neal Becker:
>> Mike Wohlgemuth wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 10:11 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
 Well, workaround really.

 /usr/lib64/libudev.so.0 -> /usr/lib64/libudev.so.1

>>>
>>> A better solution is probably:
>>>
>>> yum remove google-chrome-stable
>>> yum install google-chrome-stable
>>>
>>> Woogie
>>>
>> 
>> Really?  I just tried it, but looks like google-chrome-stable is still linked
>> to libudev.so.0:
>> 
>> ldd /opt/google/chrome/chrome | grep udev
>> libudev.so.0 => /lib64/libudev.so.0 (0x7ff603cb)
>> 
> 
> for me it works, there must be some magic in the rpm-scripts
> 
> [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ldd /opt/google/chrome/chrome | grep udev
> libudev.so.0 => not found
> libudev.so.1 => /lib64/libudev.so.1 (0x7fbd92d17000)

Yes, if I remove /lib64/libudev.so.0 link, and then reinstall:

ldd /opt/google/chrome/chrome | grep udev
libudev.so.0 => not found
libudev.so.1 => /lib64/libudev.so.1 (0x7f3c62696000)

which is weird, but somehow seems to work

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o/p from fedup --network 18 --debuglog fedupdebug.log

[JOYCE POLZIN]

65.546] (II) fedup:message() installing package nss-mdns-0.10-11.fc18.i686 
needs 2047MB on the / filesystem 
[ 65.546] (DD) fedup:() Exception: 
Traceback (most recent call last): 
File "/bin/fedup", line 330, in  
main(args) 
File "/bin/fedup", line 277, in main 
transaction_test(pkgs) 
File "/bin/fedup", line 70, in transaction_test 
fu.test_transaction(callback=output.TransactionCallback(numpkgs=len(pkgfiles))) 
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/fedup/upgrade.py", line 177, in 
test_transaction 
return self.run_transaction(callback) 
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/fedup/upgrade.py", line 169, in 
run_transaction 
rv = self.ts.run(callback.callback, None, probfilter) 
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/fedup/upgrade.py", line 43, in run 
raise TransactionError(problems) 
TransactionError 
[ 65.547] (II) fedup:() /bin/fedup exiting at Wed Jan 16 13:09:36 2013 
[ 65.548] (DD) fedup.upgrade:closepipe() closing log pipe 
[ 65.548] (II) fedup.rpm:pipelogger() got EOF 
[ 65.596] (II) fedup.rpm:pipelogger() exiting 


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Re: F18: Nautilus window cannot be re-sized

[antonio]

antonio ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 16/01/2013 18:38:

antonio ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 16/01/2013 18:10:

When I start Nautilus on my updated F18, it starts with maximized
window, I cannot re-size it as I am missing the options on the left of
the top bar (I suspect that actually I am missing one top bar of
Nautilus).The only bar that I get includes arrows on the left, lens and
other options on the right
What can I do??

Tnx


Moving the window, magically everything worked as expected, non I can
resize, move etc...


but when I click on maximize on a reducec window, main menu 
disappears!!! I have to resize by moving the mouse around: is it due??

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Re: chrome on f18 (fix)

[Reindl Harald]

Am 16.01.2013 18:03, schrieb Neal Becker:
> Mike Wohlgemuth wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 10:11 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
>>> Well, workaround really.
>>>
>>> /usr/lib64/libudev.so.0 -> /usr/lib64/libudev.so.1
>>>
>>
>> A better solution is probably:
>>
>> yum remove google-chrome-stable
>> yum install google-chrome-stable
>>
>> Woogie
>>
> 
> Really?  I just tried it, but looks like google-chrome-stable is still linked 
> to
> libudev.so.0:
> 
> ldd /opt/google/chrome/chrome | grep udev
> libudev.so.0 => /lib64/libudev.so.0 (0x7ff603cb)
> 

for me it works, there must be some magic in the rpm-scripts

[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ldd /opt/google/chrome/chrome | grep udev
libudev.so.0 => not found
libudev.so.1 => /lib64/libudev.so.1 (0x7fbd92d17000)



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F18: Nautilus : cannot find the property panel with folders listed first

[antonio]

In previous releases in Nautilus there was a panel called property where 
I had the setting to have folders listed first: where is this option now???

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Re: [389-users] netscaperoot deleted

[Rich Megginson]

On 01/16/2013 09:55 AM, Elizabeth Jones wrote:

You might try running setup-ds-admin.pl -u on all of your machines.

thanks. I ran this and it looks like it ran successfully, but still no
netscaperoot on my second server.

I went back and looked at the first server, and it looks like he may have
somehow embedded server 2 into netscaperoot on server 1, which would
explain why 2's admin server is still working. I'm really confused about
what he did, and he is no longer with the company so I can't dig the info
out of him. Does this look like it is something I should be worried about?
if prod1 dies then prod2 would be screwed?


If you don't have a working o=netscaperoot then you won't be able to use 
the console/admin server, but your directory servers will continue to 
work fine.


Is there a replication agreement for o=netscaperoot?



==

# ldapsearch -x -b o=netscaperoot -D "cn=directory manager" -w
"objectclass=nsAdminConfig" | perl -p00e 's/\r?\n //g'


# configuration, admin-serv-ldap1-prod, 389 Administration Server, Server
Group, ldap1-prod.company.com, company.com, NetscapeRoot
dn: cn=configuration,cn=admin-serv-ldap1-prod,cn=389 Administration
Server,cn=Server
Group,cn=ldap1-prod.company.com,ou=company.com,o=NetscapeRoot
nsServerPort: 9830
nsClassname:
com.netscape.management.admserv.adminser...@389-admin-1.1.jar@cn=admin-serv-ldap1-prod,cn=389
Administration Server,cn=Server
Group,cn=ldap1-prod.company.com,ou=company.com,o=NetscapeRoot
cn: Configuration
nsDirectoryInfoRef: cn=Server
Group,cn=ldap1-prod.company.com,ou=company.com,o=NetscapeRoot


# configuration, admin-serv-ldap2-prod, 389 Administration Server, Server
Group, ldap2-prod.company.com, company.com, NetscapeRoot
dn: cn=configuration,cn=admin-serv-ldap2-prod,cn=389 Administration
Server,cn=Server
Group,cn=ldap2-prod.company.com,ou=company.com,o=NetscapeRoot

nsClassname:
com.netscape.management.admserv.adminser...@389-admin-1.1.jar@cn=admin-serv-ldap2-prod,cn=389
Administration Server,cn=Server
Group,cn=ldap2-prod.company.com,ou=company.com,o=NetscapeRoot
cn: Configuration
nsDirectoryInfoRef: cn=Server
Group,cn=ldap2-prod.company.com,ou=company.com,o=NetscapeRoot

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Re: F18: Nautilus window cannot be re-sized

[antonio]

antonio ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 16/01/2013 18:10:

When I start Nautilus on my updated F18, it starts with maximized
window, I cannot re-size it as I am missing the options on the left of
the top bar (I suspect that actually I am missing one top bar of
Nautilus).The only bar that I get includes arrows on the left, lens and
other options on the right
What can I do??

Tnx


Moving the window, magically everything worked as expected, non I can 
resize, move etc...

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F18 and 'old' VirtualBox (finally...success!)

[Fulko Hew]

Congratulations to F18.

I have tested (or attempted to test via virtual systems) all the
Fedora versions between what I still use on a day-to-day basis (F8)
till today.

Since I'm still using (stuck on) F8, I was restricted to using only
the compatible versions of VirtualBox.  From F12 through F17,
they wouldn't even boot on that version, and I couldn't upgrade
VirtualBox because of library incompatibilities with F8.

Fortunately...
This is the first version of Fedora (since F12) that works on
that old VirtualBox.  So I can now (re)start seeing how to customize
F18 back into the kind of system I like (am accustom) to using.

A big thanks Fedora team.

Fulko
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Re: firewall-applet

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 03:47:00PM +, Jorge Martínez López wrote:
> I have tested firewall-applet in the desktop. I used it to open a port in
> the home zone. Then I added my network interfaces to the home zone in
> NetworkManager but it didn't work so I used the command line.

Can you file a bug for the "it didn't work" part?


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F18: Nautilus window cannot be re-sized

[antonio]

When I start Nautilus on my updated F18, it starts with maximized 
window, I cannot re-size it as I am missing the options on the left of 
the top bar (I suspect that actually I am missing one top bar of 
Nautilus).The only bar that I get includes arrows on the left, lens and 
other options on the right

What can I do??

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Re: Howto fedup?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 11:49 -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
wrote:
> What now, I still see:
> [bobg@Box7 ~]$ uname -a
> Linux Box7 3.6.11-1.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 17 22:16:35 UTC
> 2012
> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

That's basically just telling you the kernel version, which may not have
been updated due to the problems you've been having. Try looking
at /etc/fedora-release though it's not a reliable indicator e.g. mine
now says "Fedora release 18 (Spherical Cow)" even though I still haven't
managed to upgrade (see separate thread).

You could try "rpm -qa \*fc17\*" to see how many F17 packages are still
hanging around.

poc

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Re: chrome on f18 (fix)

[Neal Becker]

Mike Wohlgemuth wrote:

> On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 10:11 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
>> Well, workaround really.
>> 
>> /usr/lib64/libudev.so.0 -> /usr/lib64/libudev.so.1
>> 
> 
> A better solution is probably:
> 
> yum remove google-chrome-stable
> yum install google-chrome-stable
> 
> Woogie
> 

Really?  I just tried it, but looks like google-chrome-stable is still linked to
libudev.so.0:

ldd /opt/google/chrome/chrome | grep udev
libudev.so.0 => /lib64/libudev.so.0 (0x7ff603cb)


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Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 11:47 -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
> So just to clarify for someone like me.who has a three sub-folders
> under my GMail account running on TB. You're saying I should move
> those folders to the "Local Folder" on my computer and away from under
> the Inbox for GMail? I have filters set up in TB that send certain
> e-mail addresses to those folders.will the filters still work when
> I move them?

I use Gmail (in IMAP mode) on several large accounts, but with Evolution
as the client. However I have also used TBird quite extensively and
haven't noticed any problems. If you're going to copy mail to a local
folder rather than leave it on the server then the fact that it came
from Gmail is irrelevant.

Personally I leave everything on the server and do most of my filtering
there as well (using Gmail's builtin filters), which means I can see the
same folder structure from anywhere and don't have to worry about
exporting and importing filters, a notoriously error-prone practice.

poc

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Re: F18 rpmfusion x86_64 key missing?

[Gordon Messmer]

On 01/15/2013 01:59 PM, Dave Mitchell wrote:

 From the rpm -ql output shown below, I suspect it's a file missing from
 rpmfusion-free-release-16-3.noarch
Note that earlier releases have both -NN-primary and -NN-x86_64 files, but
there's only -18-primary for Fedora 18.


I manually installed the primary key, and was thereafter able to install 
packages normally, without telling yum to ignore the security signature:


rpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-18-primary
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Re: [389-users] netscaperoot deleted

[Elizabeth Jones]

>
> You might try running setup-ds-admin.pl -u on all of your machines.

thanks. I ran this and it looks like it ran successfully, but still no
netscaperoot on my second server.

I went back and looked at the first server, and it looks like he may have
somehow embedded server 2 into netscaperoot on server 1, which would
explain why 2's admin server is still working. I'm really confused about
what he did, and he is no longer with the company so I can't dig the info
out of him. Does this look like it is something I should be worried about?
if prod1 dies then prod2 would be screwed?

==

# ldapsearch -x -b o=netscaperoot -D "cn=directory manager" -w 
"objectclass=nsAdminConfig" | perl -p00e 's/\r?\n //g'


# configuration, admin-serv-ldap1-prod, 389 Administration Server, Server
Group, ldap1-prod.company.com, company.com, NetscapeRoot
dn: cn=configuration,cn=admin-serv-ldap1-prod,cn=389 Administration
Server,cn=Server
Group,cn=ldap1-prod.company.com,ou=company.com,o=NetscapeRoot
nsServerPort: 9830
nsClassname:
com.netscape.management.admserv.adminser...@389-admin-1.1.jar@cn=admin-serv-ldap1-prod,cn=389
Administration Server,cn=Server
Group,cn=ldap1-prod.company.com,ou=company.com,o=NetscapeRoot
cn: Configuration
nsDirectoryInfoRef: cn=Server
Group,cn=ldap1-prod.company.com,ou=company.com,o=NetscapeRoot


# configuration, admin-serv-ldap2-prod, 389 Administration Server, Server
Group, ldap2-prod.company.com, company.com, NetscapeRoot
dn: cn=configuration,cn=admin-serv-ldap2-prod,cn=389 Administration
Server,cn=Server
Group,cn=ldap2-prod.company.com,ou=company.com,o=NetscapeRoot

nsClassname:
com.netscape.management.admserv.adminser...@389-admin-1.1.jar@cn=admin-serv-ldap2-prod,cn=389
Administration Server,cn=Server
Group,cn=ldap2-prod.company.com,ou=company.com,o=NetscapeRoot
cn: Configuration
nsDirectoryInfoRef: cn=Server
Group,cn=ldap2-prod.company.com,ou=company.com,o=NetscapeRoot

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Re: Howto fedup?

[Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA]

On 16/01/13 11:08, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 11:10 -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
wrote:

On 15/01/13 16:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

I think you need an actual install ISO, not a Live one. AFAIK the Live
ISOs are comparatively limited and not meant to be used for upgrading.
poc

 Yes, it says it wont work with the live spins, I missed that first
 time around. All went pretty much as expected using the DVD iso [in
 /home/bobg/Downloads] with little effort on my part until I rebooted,

 The boot screen only shows three versions of F-17.

There should be a boot entry for "System Upgrade". If it's not there,
something went wrong with fedup-cli.

poc



   Yes there was, I went through all that. This should be upgraded to
   F-18 now  but I see nothing indicating that?


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Re: Howto fedup?

[Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA]

On 16/01/13 11:10, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

On 15/01/13 16:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I think you need an actual install ISO, not a Live one. AFAIK the 
Live ISOs are comparatively limited and not meant to be used for 
upgrading. poc 


   Yes, it says it wont work with the live spins, I missed that first
   time around. All went pretty much as expected using the DVD iso [in
   /home/bobg/Downloads] with little effort on my part until I rebooted,

   The boot screen only shows three versions of F-17.

   Booting that, things look different, can see release notes for F-18.

   Thought perhaps yum update will fix grub but yum update will not go
   to completion:.

   .  snip  ..

   (279/280): xulrunner-18.0-6.fc18.x86_64.rpm |  17 MB 00:00:14
   (280/280): zlibrary-ui-qt-0.12.10-9.fc18.x86_64.rpm |  82 kB 
   00:00:11

-
   Total 1.3 MB/s | 305 MB 03:55
   Retrieving key from
   file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-x86_64
   Importing GPG key 0xDE7F38BD:
 Userid : "Fedora (18) "
 Fingerprint: 7efb 8811 dd11 e380 b679 fced ff01 125c de7f 38bd
 Package: fedora-release-18-1.noarch (installed)
 From   : /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-x86_64
   Is this ok [y/N]: y
   Retrieving key from
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-18-x86_64


   GPG key retrieval failed: [Errno 14] Could not open/read
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-18-x86_64


   Then I can't install the f-18 key rpm - error says:
Missing security signature

   Any advice appreciated,

   Bob

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   I was finally able to install rpmfusion from the command line. Then
   yum update ran to completion. I rebooted. The boot screen still
   shows only three versions of F-17 although it appears I might be
   running F-18?

   What now, I still see:
   [bobg@Box7 ~]$ uname -a
   Linux Box7 3.6.11-1.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 17 22:16:35 UTC 2012
   x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


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Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

[Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.]

On 01/14/2013 11:47 PM, staticsafe wrote:

On 1/14/2013 23:02, g wrote:

On 01/15/2013 02:09 AM, staticsafe wrote:

"also, good luck with subfolders under inbox."

What exactly is the problem?

there is a known quirk with mozilla's thunderbird email client involving
an email account's Inbox that has sub-folders.

due to high email traffic that goes thru Inbox, there is a possibility
of the Inbox _email_file_ becoming corrupt.


OK, now I'm worried.


the cause of this happening can be for various reasons. the main cause,
i believe, is from auto compact being enabled and new emails arriving
when thunderbird is trying to do maintenance on file for emails that have
been moved elsewhere by filter action.

I don't think I enabled auto-compact manually, I don't know if its
enabled by default, time to find out I guess.


another problem that can happen and mozilla does recognize it, if you
keep a lot of old emails in Inbox, there is a possibility of file
becoming corrupt. mozilla recommends that Inbox be maintained with as
few emails as possible. i recommend to _keep_it_cleaned_-_period_.

This one I got covered, I maintain an "inbox zero" policy with all my
accounts, mails are filtered directly without ever seeing my "INBOX" folder.


there is a condition in the filter 'match' setting called

   ( ) Match all messages

which i use as last filter of each email account to move emails to
folder 'Local Folders/all-other'. i have considered adding sub-folders
to it, but my filtering is extensive enough that i seldom have any
emails hit 'all-other'.

in your case, you could add sub-folders with name of you email accounts.
that is up to you. what ever makes things simple to maintain is the
main goal.

there have been a number of posters on the 'support thunderbird list'
complaining about an account having a corrupted Inbox.

there have been many suggestions for a cure made. the one that works
is to move *all* Inbox sub-folders out from under Inbox folder. they
can be moved anywhere and i recommend they be moved to a place below
the 'Local Folders' folder. cure rate by doing so is 100%

there is/was a page on one of non mozilla owned mozilla support sites
that recommends no sub-folder and it gave same reasons i found to be.
i thought i had bookmarked site, but i have yet to find it. it does
not shown up with a google search.

so, now you know what i meant in wishing you good luck.

also, understand this, you may not have a problem now, your setup
could go on forever. then again, it might hit you.

consider what and how much you have to lose vs the short time spent
in dragging folders to a new location.

when you drag and drop folders to a new position, thunderbird's filter
routine will rewrite your filters to show new position so you do not
have to rewrite any filter rules.

This is the thing, I don't use Thunderbird's filter system at all. All
my filtering is done server side by a Dovecot plugin called Sieve as I
mentioned. This is useful as I use Thunderbird on multiple devices and
OSes and I don't have to bother to keep my filters in sync. Also I get
to write filters in my favourite editor which is great too. :)

So my situation is - Thunderbird doesn't see any "filtering", as far its
concerned, messages just randomly appear in folders. :)

I am not too worried about losing e-mails due to corruption as this is
essentially my mailing list e-mail and most if not all of them are
publicly archived. :)


now you can see, and i hope understand, why i did not want to reply to
your question in thread i started. if a fedora, or any other user ran
a search with "Subject: folders under Inbox", they would never find
what they were looking for.

there are enough answers to problems out there that are no where related
to "Subject:" line. i did not see advantage of adding another and hiding
a solution.

i do hope this helps you make decision to move folders.
___

congratulations for your choice of wording in "Subject:".

tho next time, i would recommend "ping: geleem". i have a filer for
that. (GBWG)

Noted. Thanks for your elaboration.


Opa. Metaxa.




So just to clarify for someone like me.who has a three sub-folders 
under my GMail account running on TB. You're saying I should move those 
folders to the "Local Folder" on my computer and away from under the 
Inbox for GMail? I have filters set up in TB that send certain e-mail 
addresses to those folders.will the filters still work when I move 
them? (I have folders for the Fedora Users Groupthe CEntOS Users 
Group...and the Scientific Linux Users Group!) Just want to know before 
I go and move themalso these same folders are also existent on the 
GMail servers, will my moving the ones on TB affect those as well?...



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Re: Replacing a messd up 18 with live install...fail

[Frank McCormick]

On 15/01/13 09:38 PM, Fedora User wrote:

On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 20:43 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote:


I already have an 18 installation which is somewhat messed up because at
one point I had rawhide repos in my list. Repairs have been unsucessful.


I am assuming that you have a broken 18 install that you can still boot
to a log-in screen.

I had the same problem with rawhide packages that I was testing. I was
able to fix everything in a failsafe session. Once "yum check" was good,
I was able to install everything without a problem.

You might want to check yum grouplist and see what is says is
installed.




  Now, been there..done that. I reinstalled most of the groups I had 
including the basic x system. No joy. It now appears the mesa drivers in 
18 will not run on my  (ancient - Intel 865B MB) machine. There have 
been a bug or two reported but it seems that attitude is " buy a newer 
machine" :)

Ah well.. back to 17 I guess.



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Fedora 18 not mounting USB drives.

[Johan Scheepers]

Good day,

When I boot and login I get a udisks have a problem.
Kindly please : how to fix this.

JohanS
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F18: Can't recovery from suspend

[antonio]

If I suspend my laptop, I can't back from it, I get a loop with a screen 
going from a date to blank.

Is it a general bug??
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http://www.campingmonterosa.com




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Fedora 18 vs eMachines 525 notebook

[Zoltan Boszormenyi]

Hi,

I was trying to install F18/x86_64 on the notebook in $SUBJECT
but I could only use the "traditional" (VESA) mode. Although
KMS produced a good native picture but it was so dim that the
picture was barely visible. The Fn + Up/Down buttons that should
change the brightness did nothing.

[root@localhost ~]# lspci -s 00:02.0
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated 
Graphics Controller (rev 09)

[root@localhost ~]# lspci -vxxxn -s 00:02.0
00:02.0 0300: 8086:2a42 (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: 1025:0212
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 44
Memory at 9000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
Memory at 8000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
I/O ports at 50f0 [size=8]
Expansion ROM at  [disabled]
Capabilities: [90] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 3
00: 86 80 42 2a 07 04 90 00 09 00 00 03 00 00 80 00
10: 04 00 00 90 00 00 00 00 0c 00 00 80 00 00 00 00
20: f1 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 25 10 12 02
30: 00 00 00 00 90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 00 00
40: 00 00 00 00 48 00 00 00 09 00 0a 61 b1 6d 51 1f
50: b9 e1 70 03 19 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 7c
60: 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90: 05 d0 01 00 0c 10 e0 fe 22 41 00 00 00 00 00 00
a0: 00 00 00 00 09 00 06 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
b0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
c0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 4d 01 00 00
d0: 01 00 23 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 34 00 00 00
e0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 1a 41 20 00 00
f0: 0a 18 34 07 00 00 00 00 a0 0f 09 00 18 c0 a8 7b

Best regards,
Zoltán Böszörményi

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Re: [389-users] netscaperoot deleted

[Rich Megginson]

On 01/16/2013 09:16 AM, Elizabeth Jones wrote:

We have a cluster of 4 directory servers that we are trying to put into
production. One of our admins was doing some experimenting on one of them
and it looks like he deleted netscaperoot. What is weird though is that we
can still start and access the admin server (after multiple reboots and
other things). I don't want to have to rebuild this server from scratch if
I can help it. Does anyone know if I can rebuild netscaperoot without
rebuilding the entire server?


You might try running setup-ds-admin.pl -u on all of your machines.


And can anyone explain to me how the admin
server is able to run without netscaperoot?

It has a cache (local.conf) of the information it needs.

Actually everything on this
server seems to be running fine and it is usable, but I would like it to
match the other 3.

thanks -

EJ


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Re: Howto fedup?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 11:10 -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
wrote:
> On 15/01/13 16:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I think you need an actual install ISO, not a Live one. AFAIK the Live 
> > ISOs are comparatively limited and not meant to be used for upgrading. 
> > poc 
> 
> Yes, it says it wont work with the live spins, I missed that first
> time around. All went pretty much as expected using the DVD iso [in
> /home/bobg/Downloads] with little effort on my part until I rebooted,
> 
> The boot screen only shows three versions of F-17.

There should be a boot entry for "System Upgrade". If it's not there,
something went wrong with fedup-cli.

poc

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Re: A Look at Fedora 18

[Dan Thurman]

On 01/15/2013 06:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> Looking at the Fedora 18 from a Live Cd I found that Gnome is following
> the tradition of not following its tradition.
> Clicking on Activities no longer gives you Applications item at the top.
> Together with the standard applications on the left side of the screen
> you get a icon that looks like a rectangle of rectangles. Clicking on
> the at gives you the previous Application display.
>
> Is that progress?
Hmm...  CD version is 889MB?  It's too big
and I cannot create a CD (not DVD) of the
image file.

What's up with that?


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[389-users] netscaperoot deleted

[Elizabeth Jones]

We have a cluster of 4 directory servers that we are trying to put into
production. One of our admins was doing some experimenting on one of them
and it looks like he deleted netscaperoot. What is weird though is that we
can still start and access the admin server (after multiple reboots and
other things). I don't want to have to rebuild this server from scratch if
I can help it. Does anyone know if I can rebuild netscaperoot without
rebuilding the entire server? And can anyone explain to me how the admin
server is able to run without netscaperoot? Actually everything on this
server seems to be running fine and it is usable, but I would like it to
match the other 3.

thanks -

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Re: F18 wont let me admin users and groups.

[Erik P. Olsen]

On 16/01/13 16:45, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:32:12 +0100
"Erik P. Olsen"  wrote:


Nothing happens when I select Applications Menu -> Administration ->
Users and Groups. And nothing seems to be logged. I've even logged in
as root to no avail.

Any suggestions?


Are in you Xfce?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=879922

kevin




'StartupNotify=true' as mentioned in above bug report does not help :-(

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Re: Howto fedup?

[Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA]

On 15/01/13 16:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I think you need an actual install ISO, not a Live one. AFAIK the Live 
ISOs are comparatively limited and not meant to be used for upgrading. 
poc 


   Yes, it says it wont work with the live spins, I missed that first
   time around. All went pretty much as expected using the DVD iso [in
   /home/bobg/Downloads] with little effort on my part until I rebooted,

   The boot screen only shows three versions of F-17.

   Booting that, things look different, can see release notes for F-18.

   Thought perhaps yum update will fix grub but yum update will not go
   to completion:.

   .  snip  ..

   (279/280): xulrunner-18.0-6.fc18.x86_64.rpm |  17 MB  00:00:14
   (280/280): zlibrary-ui-qt-0.12.10-9.fc18.x86_64.rpm |  82 kB 
   00:00:11

   
-
   Total 1.3 MB/s | 305 MB 03:55
   Retrieving key from
   file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-x86_64
   Importing GPG key 0xDE7F38BD:
 Userid : "Fedora (18) "
 Fingerprint: 7efb 8811 dd11 e380 b679 fced ff01 125c de7f 38bd
 Package: fedora-release-18-1.noarch (installed)
 From   : /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-x86_64
   Is this ok [y/N]: y
   Retrieving key from
   file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-18-x86_64


   GPG key retrieval failed: [Errno 14] Could not open/read
   file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-18-x86_64


   Then I can't install the f-18 key rpm - error says:
Missing security signature

   Any advice appreciated,

   Bob

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Re: F18 wont let me admin users and groups.

[Erik P. Olsen]

On 16/01/13 16:45, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:32:12 +0100
"Erik P. Olsen"  wrote:


Nothing happens when I select Applications Menu -> Administration ->
Users and Groups. And nothing seems to be logged. I've even logged in
as root to no avail.

Any suggestions?


Are in you Xfce?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=879922

kevin




Yes, I am.

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Re: firewall-applet

[Jorge Martínez López]

Hi!

I have tested firewall-applet in the desktop. I used it to open a port in
the home zone. Then I added my network interfaces to the home zone in
NetworkManager but it didn't work so I used the command line.

Since then firewalld is running happily and I haven't used the firewall
applet any more.

Cheers,


2013/1/14 Gene Czarcinski 

> This is a little early since Fedora 18 will not be officially out until
> tomorrow.
>
> Did anyone test firewall-applet on a gnome desktop?  On a kde desktop?  I
> also tried xfce and there is got an applet on the panel.  I am sure this is
> something about gnome shell or kde it it sure is not obvious
>
> Gene
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Re: F18 wont let me admin users and groups.

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:32:12 +0100
"Erik P. Olsen"  wrote:

> Nothing happens when I select Applications Menu -> Administration ->
> Users and Groups. And nothing seems to be logged. I've even logged in
> as root to no avail.
> 
> Any suggestions?

Are in you Xfce?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=879922

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Re: Cooperative Bug Isolation for Fedora 18

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 20:32 -0600, Ben Liblit wrote:
> The Cooperative Bug Isolation Project (CBI) is now available for Fedora 
> 18.  We currently offer instrumented versions of Evolution, The GIMP, 
> GNOME Panel, Gnumeric, Liferea, Nautilus, Pidgin, and Rhythmbox. 
> Download at .  Or just 
> download and install 
> 
>  
> to automatically configure your system to use the CBI repository...

Are these versions available for x86_64 systems?

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Re: chrome on f18 (fix)

[Mike Wohlgemuth]

On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 10:11 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
> Well, workaround really.
> 
> /usr/lib64/libudev.so.0 -> /usr/lib64/libudev.so.1
> 

A better solution is probably:

yum remove google-chrome-stable
yum install google-chrome-stable

Woogie

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F18 wont let me admin users and groups.

[Erik P. Olsen]

Nothing happens when I select Applications Menu -> Administration -> Users and 
Groups. And nothing seems to be logged. I've even logged in as root to no avail.


Any suggestions?
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f18 update woes

[William Murray]

  Dear Fedora-enthusiasts,
I have just run fedup on a couple of F17 systems with sad 
consequences, and I am looking for help.


1) The first was an F17 along machine. I did a network 'fedup' which ran 
with no errors and left it for the
night. In the morning it was stick in a boot sequence. I can still boot 
the FC17 kernels (fortunately)
but the F18 always hangs almost immediately with an error about being 
unable to mount the filesystem.
No errors in the 3 log files. I tried reinstalling grub2 and 
removing/reading the F18 kernel but no joy


Generally install went OK, but with 2 monitors I still fall-back to 
gnome 3 mode. KDE did not upgrade; I think

it may be because later version numbers are already in FC17 then FC18.

2) The worse one in my dual-booting laptop. Win7+Fedora, using grub2 to 
chainload windows if desired.
 It is a somewhat convoluted system with Fedora 17 unencrypted plus a 
big encrypted partition.
I ran 'fedup' (to an iso DVD file) and got no errors. Then I hit reboot 
- and stuck at:

   File system boot sector (C) is reserved
   There is no OS to bot on this disk.
Using a rescue disk and reinstalling GRUB2 fixed the boot startup, but 
loading the fedup dracut then
times out waiting for device-mapper-luks and cannot boot. So I comment 
out the entry in /etc/fstab

But still the boot fails in the disk setup phase.  Any ideas?

  Thanks!
Bill

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F18 live fails to recognise network

[Dokuro]

Hello, I was about to fresh install F18 and the integrated network card
that F17 recognised is not on F18, it is a working asrock 945gcm-s.
Does this mean that I should reinstall F17 and fedup or is there a simpler
(faster) method?
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chrome on f18 (fix)

[Neal Becker]

Well, workaround really.

/usr/lib64/libudev.so.0 -> /usr/lib64/libudev.so.1

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Re: hostname where?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 09:33 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
> OK, I just installed f18 in a virtual machine, and hostname reports
> localhost.localdomain.
> 
> I tried adding HOSTNAME= to /etc/sysconfig/network where it always
> used to be, but it had no effect.
> 
> I ran the system-setting app and can't find anything that hints
> to me that it might have something to do with setting hostname.
> 
> So where in the blue blazes is hostname set these days?

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Sysadmin.html

poc

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Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 18.

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 08:51 +0100, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
> This marks 10 releases since I first started using Fedora. It has been
> a fantastic ride so far. Thanks to the community and the devs for all
> your hard work in creating and evolving this amazing OS :)

I echo your sentiments, but 1) you didn't need to echo the entire
announcement in order add a comment, and 2) kindly read the list
Guidelines about top-posting:
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Re: Restarting fedup

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 07:03 +, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:09:04 -0430
> Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:
> 
> > So I decided to try fedup using the network install option. Spent
> > most of the day downloading over 2700 packages (I have a whole
> > 1Mbps link, woohoo), rebooted, selected the System Upgrade option,
> > then sat watching the Fedora logo fade in, fade out, fade in , fade
> > out, ... with no sign that any progress was being made. Is this
> > right?
> 
> currentl yes,
> try upgrade from telinit 3, with rhgb, quite  removed
> (or their modern equivs).
> 
> 
> > 
> > How can I avoid wasting even more hours on this? Is there no way to
> > tell fedup where to look for the new packages other than the
> > network or an ISO file?
> > 
> I don't believe so at the moment.
> no man page being available, only "fedup-cli --help"

I noticed that. Also, the fedup page says that documentation is
incomplete. I would have hoped for this to be fixed before large numbers
of people tried to use fedup, which is after all the recommended way of
upgrading F17, but as I'm not a tester I guess I just have to suck it
up.

> Unless move the downloaded files to the side.
> Use createrepo to make a local  repo.
> then:
> --repourl REPO=URL   add a repo named REPO at the given URL
> as part of a network update?

Maybe I'll try that, thanks.

poc

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Re: hostname where?

[Ed Greshko]

On 01/16/2013 10:33 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> OK, I just installed f18 in a virtual machine, and hostname reports
> localhost.localdomain.
>
> I tried adding HOSTNAME= to /etc/sysconfig/network where it always
> used to be, but it had no effect.
>
> I ran the system-setting app and can't find anything that hints
> to me that it might have something to do with setting hostname.
>
> So where in the blue blazes is hostname set these days?

/etc/hostname

Use hostnamectl to set...

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Re: Yum update after f17 -> f18 fedup via iso

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 06:43 +, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:19:39 -0430
> Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:
> 
> > Was my meaning too hard to understand? The previous poster is
> > replying to my comment about using fedup followed by yum update.
> > It's entirely logical to ask what he means by "safer".
> 
> apologies was in bed.
> 
> > 
> > I'm still wondering what "nvr" means.
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Draft_Documentation/0.1/html/RPM_Guide/ch09s03.html
> Naming the Package 
> The most important part of the package description is the NVR, or
> Name-Version-Release information, because this information is so
> crucial for the RPM system to compare versions and track
> dependencies. 
> 
> 
> Which means that Fedora N (17) can have a greater version,
> that Fedora N+1 (i8) . yum update gets caught as it will keep 
> the higher version (the wrong one)
> But yum distro-sync will clean up those accidental fubars.

OK, got it. Thanks for the explanation, but it might have been clearer
to be more explicit in the first place. I'm not sure how many of us
would know what NVR means at the drop of a hat. Google doesn't mention
this interpretation in its first couple of screens. Even a specialist
site such as http://www.acronymgeek.com/NVR (which gives 90 possible
decodings of NVR), doesn't have this one.

Anyway, let's just leave it at that. In my initial response to the OP I
missed the fact that we were talking about an ISO install, which makes
all the difference.

poc

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Re: Fedora 18

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 16 January 2013, Roger sent:
> Sudo refused to let me use user with root permissions even after
> editing sudoers. More tinkering unless I'm doing the wrong thing with
> sudoers.

Since you haven't said what you actually did, nobody can give you
accurate advise.  All I could say was make sure you edit sudoers
properly, such as using visudo to do it.

 
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hostname where?

[Tom Horsley]

OK, I just installed f18 in a virtual machine, and hostname reports
localhost.localdomain.

I tried adding HOSTNAME= to /etc/sysconfig/network where it always
used to be, but it had no effect.

I ran the system-setting app and can't find anything that hints
to me that it might have something to do with setting hostname.

So where in the blue blazes is hostname set these days?
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Re: OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 16 January 2013, Ian Malone sent:
> Well everyone who's tried it stops talking to their old friends at
> least.

Dunno about that.  I think those that have "tried" it do talk to their
old friends, quite a bit about it.  Only those that successful don't.

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Fedup for LVM?

[Steve Berg]

Got a couple of F17 systems that I'm a little wary of re-installing with F18.  Both are setup with two drives, GPT partitioned and running RAID1 with a couple of LVM volume groups.  From what I've read it seems that the anaconda in F18 will not be able to deal with this setup like previous anaconda's.  I haven't yet started to figure out a decent kickstart since supposedly that will get around the problem. My question is about fedup.  Will fedup be able to work with this sort of setup or should I put in the time to figure out a good kickstart config?

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F18: minor issues after fedup at boot time

[Antonio M]

I upgraded my F17 to F18 through Fedup. I run all available updates.
I didn't carry out the grub2 update as I was already in grub2 and my
machine is not UEFI.
Now at start-up I don't get the splash screen and the login window is green
instead of blue.
Running a notebook with intel grapphic and i915 driver.
How can I debug it??

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fedora 17 no wireless

[Joel Rees]

First time to try to use wireless since installing F17. Connects, but
doesn't succeed at authorizing. Keeps trying to authorize for several
minutes, then gives up.

/var/log/messages shows stuff like

NetworkManager[483]:  (wlan0): device state change: disconnected
-> prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0]

tries again and says things like

... has security, but secrets are required

... has security, and secrets exist. No new secrets required.

Various stuff added,

... Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.

... Config: set interface ap_scan to 1

... supplicant interface state: disconnected -> scanning

scanning, authenticating, associating, handshake completed, beginning
IP6 addrconf, and

avahi-daemon[514]: Withdrawing address record for (IPv6 address, I
think) on wlan0.

IPv6 scheduled, started, completed, DHCPv4 request timed out. canceled
DHCP transaction, and

... wlan0: deauthenticating from (MAC address) by local choice (reason=3)
...  (wlan0): device state change: ip-config -> failed
(reason 'ip-config-unavailable') [70 120 5]

and so forth.

I'm going to try to set up /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf by
hand when I have time tomorrow, but I'm curious as to why I would need
to do the set up by hand for F17 when F16 just did its thing and it
worked.

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Re: Which Fedup?

[Olav Vitters]

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 06:44:29AM -0500, John Aldrich wrote:
> I was looking to download Fedup, but I see that there is one for F17 and one 
> for F18. I am currently running F17, so I'm guessing I should download that 
> one 

I used the one for F17 and worked fine.

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Re: A Look at Fedora 18

[Fernando Cassia]

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Roberto Ragusa  wrote:
> I can assure you that death *is* a big change. ;-)

One thread that develops with a positive tone, and ends philosophical
about it all
even the Fedora list can change! and for the better!.

I think I´ve seen it all. *joke* *joke*
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Re: Which Fedup?

[Frank Murphy]

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 06:44:29 -0500
John Aldrich  wrote:

> I was looking to download Fedup, but I see that there is one for
> F17 and one for F18. I am currently running F17, so I'm guessing I
> should download that one 

correct

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Which Fedup?

[John Aldrich]

I was looking to download Fedup, but I see that there is one for F17 and one 
for F18. I am currently running F17, so I'm guessing I should download that 
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Re: OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

[Frank Murphy]

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:29:36 +
Ian Malone  wrote:


> Well everyone who's tried it stops talking to their old friends at
> least.
> 

and that applies to old friends who are also dead? :D

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Re: OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

[Ian Malone]

On 16 January 2013 11:20, Frank Murphy  wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:17:49 +0100
> Roberto Ragusa  wrote:
>
>> I can assure you that death *is* a big change. ;-)
>>
>  You have experienced it?
> Personally, cannot say if it's a change,
> only that it's guaranteed.
>

Well everyone who's tried it stops talking to their old friends at least.

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OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

[Frank Murphy]

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:17:49 +0100
Roberto Ragusa  wrote:

> I can assure you that death *is* a big change. ;-)
> 
 You have experienced it?
Personally, cannot say if it's a change,
only that it's guaranteed.



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Re: A Look at Fedora 18

[Roberto Ragusa]

On 01/16/2013 11:51 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:44:48 +1100
> Roger  wrote:
> 
>> I installed it I love it!
>> The only guarantee in life is "Change" --
> 
> Life doesn't guarantee change,
> it will probably occur,
> but only death is guaranteed. 

I can assure you that death *is* a big change. ;-)


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Ncat not working after upgrade from F17 -> F18

[Suvayu Ali]

Hi,

Has anyone else noticed ncat is not working after upgrading to F18?  I
am presuming it is because of some firewall issue, but I don't know how
to debug this.

This is a typical output:

$ nc -vvv www.google.com
Ncat: Version 6.01 ( http://nmap.org/ncat )
NSOCK (0.0030s) TCP connection requested to 173.194.32.114:31337 (IOD #1) EID 8
NSOCK (10.0130s) Callback: CONNECT TIMEOUT for EID 8 [173.194.32.114:31337]
Ncat: Connection timed out.

My usecase is to check if the Gmail imap servers are up before I sync my
email.  So a test like the following command gets stuck.

$  nc -vvv imap.gmail.com 993
Ncat: Version 6.01 ( http://nmap.org/ncat )
NSOCK (0.0030s) TCP connection requested to 173.194.70.108:993 (IOD #1) EID 8
NSOCK (0.0210s) Callback: CONNECT SUCCESS for EID 8 [173.194.70.108:993]
Ncat: Connected to 173.194.70.108:993.
NSOCK (0.0210s) Read request from IOD #1 [173.194.70.108:993] (timeout: -1ms) 
EID 18
NSOCK (0.0210s) Read request for 0 bytes from IOD #2 (peer unspecified) EID 26

Can someone help?

Thanks,


PS: I do not know if this is relevant, the new F18 kernel does not work
for me so I am booting with the last F17 kernel 3.6.11-1.fc17.x86_64

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