Re: Kmail

2013-01-26 Thread Jan Litwiński
Dnia niedziela, 27 stycznia 2013 07:10:09 Jan Litwiński pisze:
> Dnia sobota, 26 stycznia 2013 14:51:46 Garry T. Williams pisze:
> > On Friday, January 25, 2013 03:58:30 Jan Litwiński wrote:
> > > I set up kmail to go next unread message in folder, but by 
mistake I
> > > choose  privies button, how to change it to next button
> > 
> > Kmail -> Settings -> Configure Shortcuts -> Next Unread 
Message
> 
> But this configure only keyboard shortcuts and don't change go to 
next
> unread message in folder

sorry I meant go to next message in next folder

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Re: Upgrade FC 16 to FC 17 problems

2013-01-26 Thread George R Goffe
Hi,


I have the following message "The root for the previously installed system was 
not found".

Due to space issues I have made a few links into a larger partition, these were 
/tmp and /var/lib/yum/plugins/local. I changed /tmp to be in the root file 
system and made the link to local a link 
"../../../../export/home/var-lib-yum-plugins-local/". Now I get the above 
message.

Can anyone suggest what I should do now please?

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Re: Kmail

2013-01-26 Thread Jan Litwiński
Dnia sobota, 26 stycznia 2013 14:51:46 Garry T. Williams pisze:
> On Friday, January 25, 2013 03:58:30 Jan Litwiński wrote:
> > I set up kmail to go next unread message in folder, but by mistake I
> > choose  privies button, how to change it to next button
> 
> Kmail -> Settings -> Configure Shortcuts -> Next Unread Message

But this configure only keyboard shortcuts and don't change go to next 
unread message in folder

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Re: Could someone add keystroke macros to gedit and/or to gnome 3 please ?

2013-01-26 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Aaron Gray  wrote:
> Could someone work on a macro recorder to work on Gnome 3 apps and update
> GEdit to use it please ?
>
> Aaron

Aaron,

You will have better luck by posting your message on the GEdit mailing list
http://projects.gnome.org/gedit/developers.html

FC
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Re: F17 fedora xfce spin: what display manager?

2013-01-26 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

For F16, the XFCE spin DM was GDM.
What is the status for F17 and F18?
Did it switch to LighDM or not yet?

F18 lightdm F17 also iirc

Yeah, f18 has switched to lightdm, but the default in f17 was still
gdm.
You can of course switch yourself to lightdm just fine in f17.
(or f16 for that matter).

I am happy with XFCE in fc18, haven't dug too deep into the stuff
involved because it "just worked."


Great! Still stuck on F17 right now but I used to let release to mature 
before switching :-)
So far is the time were I was a student and had time to recompile my 
kernel just to spend my time in front of my computer :-P


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Re: XFCE Weather app can't find me - FC18

2013-01-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/27/2013 01:00 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> I think I have the extra apps loaded for xfce, but the weather app searching 
> for something near Schenectady NY just says "Searching" and does nothing 
> visible. FC17 found a station on Libarty St, three blocks from me, which 
> updates frequently. What did I forget to install?
>
> I noticed that fc17 had libgweather installed, so I added it in case the 
> dependency was missed. No change. So either the applet is broken or they are 
> using a much smaller list, or it's broken. Before I submit a bug, I'll ask 
> here if I'm just doing it wrong.
>

I don't often use xfce, but you got me curious.

Are you talking about the xfce4-weather-plugin?  I installed that in both F17 
and F18 and added it to the panel.  In both cases, it automatically found what 
it thought was my location and gave me weather.

However, in both cases if I try to change the location it goes to 
"searching..." no matter what I enter and never returns anythingeven if I 
use a very common city such as New York.

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Re: Could someone add keystroke macros to gedit and/or to gnome 3 please ?

2013-01-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 01:03 +, Aaron Gray wrote:
> Could someone work on a macro recorder to work on Gnome 3 apps and update
> GEdit to use it please ?
> 
> Aaron
> 
> On 26 January 2013 17:13, Aaron Gray  wrote:
> 
> > Could someone add keystroke macros to gedit please ?

[Please don't top-post on this list]

This is the wrong place for such requests. You might want to file an RFE
(Request For Enhancement) on Bugzilla.

poc

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XFCE Weather app can't find me - FC18

2013-01-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
I think I have the extra apps loaded for xfce, but the weather app searching for 
something near Schenectady NY just says "Searching" and does nothing visible. 
FC17 found a station on Libarty St, three blocks from me, which updates 
frequently. What did I forget to install?


I noticed that fc17 had libgweather installed, so I added it in case the 
dependency was missed. No change. So either the applet is broken or they are 
using a much smaller list, or it's broken. Before I submit a bug, I'll ask here 
if I'm just doing it wrong.


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Re: F17 fedora xfce spin: what display manager?

2013-01-26 Thread Bill Davidsen

Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:09:56 +
Frank Murphy  wrote:


On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:33:44 +0300
Mihamina Rakotomandimby  wrote:


Hi all,

For F16, the XFCE spin DM was GDM.
What is the status for F17 and F18?
Did it switch to LighDM or not yet?

Thank you.



F18 lightdm F17 also iirc


Yeah, f18 has switched to lightdm, but the default in f17 was still
gdm.

You can of course switch yourself to lightdm just fine in f17.
(or f16 for that matter).

I am happy with XFCE in fc18, haven't dug too deep into the stuff involved 
because it "just worked."



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Re: FC18 install - doesn't offer other OS on the drive

2013-01-26 Thread Bill Davidsen

Carroll Grigsby wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:15:07 +
Jorge Martínez López  wrote:


Hi!

2013/1/25 Bill Davidsen 


I'll see if a different subject, devoid of anything but the
question, brings a response. When I installed FC18 on a drive with
FC17 and XP the installer didn't offer an option to boot those OS
as alternatives.

Is this a bug or by design.



I installed F18 in a Macbook Pro with Mac OS X in another partition
and Mac OS X shows up in Grub.

I am not sure if it is the task of the installer to set up booting
other operating systems. It is Grub that enables that. Grub2 looks
for other operating systems when updating its config and it should
add them to the menu "automagically".

To update Grub's config I run:

# grub2-mkconfig /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

(Note: I use Grub2 and BIOS, configuration for EFI is different)

Greetings,



Try it this way:
grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg


Thanks I'll try that and see if it finds the other OS on the drive.


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Re: FC18 install - doesn't offer other OS on the drive

2013-01-26 Thread Bill Davidsen

Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 26.01.2013 18:26, schrieb Bill Davidsen:

I avoid editing the grub.cfg file for three reasons:
   1 - I don't know what I'm doing, if magic is needed the install/upgrade
   should be the magician. The average users knows way less than I do
   about system setup
   2 - The last time I did the system wound up being a totally unbootable
   recovery adventure. See #1
   3 - every kernel upgrade seems to rebuild the config file, making
   change a brief success.


3 is completly untrue

The modification date on the file and it's contents change. Since I have never 
been able to get it to add either fc17 (separate boot and root) or XP in a 
partition, I couldn't investigate what it was changing, but it does get rebuilt, 
which is what I based my statement on, I actually looked. If having it change 
doesn't meet you criteria from being rebuilt I think that's splitting hairs.


If someone could tell me how to get it to boot any of the preinstalled OS on the 
drive, I could do better testing. Better yet I could upgrade and move on.



until now after kernel updates grubby is adding the new one to grub config
and taking any chnage you made in the previous one to the new entry

only "grub2-mkconfig" is creating a complete new config
with all this submenu crap and so on
for kernel params "/etc/default/grub" is your friend here

I am not a guru on grub2, when I did this with fc16 along with fc14, both 
appeared, I was asked (my notes don't say if it was a question or menu) if I 
wanted to boot fc14. That was good, the current "ignore the other stuff" doesn't 
seem like an optimal install interface, Fedora users tend to be technical, but 
having to hack grub2 is a hard learning curve. BTW: copying stanzas from the old 
grub2 didn't seem to work, system just didn't boot.


Thanks for the input.


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Re: disable IPv6?

2013-01-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 01/25/2013 05:45 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:

Robert Moskowitz  writes:

On 01/24/2013 10:22 PM, Chris Adams wrote:

Once upon a time, Tom Horsley  said:

My system at work seems to take a long time to start
the network. I have this suspicion it is waiting for
an IPv6 DHCP server to respond (which won't happen).

It looks like the F18 install writes out ifcfg-* files with
"DHCPV6C=yes", which should probably not be set by default, especially
since so few environments (even IPv6 environments) will have a IPv6 DHCP
server.  Comment out that line or set it to "no" and it should fix the
slowdown.

RA will be more common.  That is what I have.

+1

Belts and suspenders: check both.

The ISP's that give you IPv6 addresses (Comcast for one) will also use
dhcp to give you a whole 64-bit network of addresses via DHCP-PD.


My ISP gave me a /48 allocation  :)



I'm curious how many of the people that are disabling their IPv6
actually have painless access to IPv6 and are ignoring it.

-wolfgang


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Re: Could someone add keystroke macros to gedit and/or to gnome 3 please ?

2013-01-26 Thread Aaron Gray
Could someone work on a macro recorder to work on Gnome 3 apps and update
GEdit to use it please ?

Aaron

On 26 January 2013 17:13, Aaron Gray  wrote:

> Could someone add keystroke macros to gedit please ?
>
>
> Aaron
>
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Re: FC18 install - doesn't offer other OS on the drive

2013-01-26 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:15:07 +
Jorge Martínez López  wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> 2013/1/25 Bill Davidsen 
> 
> > I'll see if a different subject, devoid of anything but the
> > question, brings a response. When I installed FC18 on a drive with
> > FC17 and XP the installer didn't offer an option to boot those OS
> > as alternatives.
> >
> > Is this a bug or by design.
> 
> 
> I installed F18 in a Macbook Pro with Mac OS X in another partition
> and Mac OS X shows up in Grub.
> 
> I am not sure if it is the task of the installer to set up booting
> other operating systems. It is Grub that enables that. Grub2 looks
> for other operating systems when updating its config and it should
> add them to the menu "automagically".
> 
> To update Grub's config I run:
> 
> # grub2-mkconfig /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
> 
> (Note: I use Grub2 and BIOS, configuration for EFI is different)
> 
> Greetings,
> 

Try it this way:
grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

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f18+gnome3: howto recording desktop with audio

2013-01-26 Thread Dario Lesca
How to record via ctrl+alt+shift+r, video and audio together ?

I have fount this trick:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/112473/audio-not-working-for-gnome-screencast-ctrl-alt-shift-r

But the command for set the "org.gnome.shell.recorder pipeline" key:

> gsettings set org.gnome.shell.recorder pipeline "queue ! \
> videorate !  vp8enc quality=10 speed=2 ! mux. pulsesrc ! \
> audio/x-raw-int ! queue !  audioconvert ! vorbisenc ! \
> mux. webmmux name=mux"

... do not work, and break the recording, likely this setting is for
gstreamer-0.10, bud f18 use gstreamer1-1.x, true?.

This is home page of shell recorder, but there is nothing for enable
audio recording.
http://developer.gnome.org/shell/stable/shell-shell-recorder.html

Someone have suggest?

Many thanks

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Re: Sound gone from yum upgrade from F17->F18

2013-01-26 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Following up on this, I continue to miss sound on this old Dell
Precision 650 desktop with a i386 architecture. 

Any suggestions as to what I should even be looking at? I am not sure
if it is a bug, and if so what I should file against.

Btw, I did check that the speakers are on and connected.

Ranjan

> Anyway, when I do the following:
> 
> $lxmusic personal/Music/white_stones/windancer.mp3 
> 
> ** (lxmusic:2181): WARNING **: on_playback_volume_changed: couldn't get
> volume
> 
> I get no sound, but pavucontrol lights up on playback:
> 
> Specifically, an entry comes up under XMMS2 and the volume is shown
> under playback.
> 
> Under output devices, I only have "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo"
> 
> and Port: "Analog Mono Output Amplifier" (out of possible choices,
> the above and Analog Mono Output No Amplifier, LFE on Separate Mono
> Output/Amplifier and LFE on Separate Mono Output/No Amplifier).
> 
> Under Configuration, I have "Built-in Audio" with Profile "Analog
> Stereo Duplex" (out of possible choices, that and Analog Stereo
> Output/Input and Off).
> 
> Btw, 
> /usr/lib/xcdroast/bin/wavplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/alarm.wav
> 
> ** (process:2224): WARNING **: Can't init sound-system
> 
> I did check to ensure that the speakers were connected.
> 
> Any further suggestions/help?
> 
> Ranjan
> 
> 
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Re: [postgis-users] F18: Postgresql 9.2.x/PostGIS 1.5.x issues

2013-01-26 Thread Max Pyziur

On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Devrim GÜNDÜZ wrote:



Hi,

On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 15:42 -0500, Max Pyziur wrote:

This is a known issue, and there is already a bugzilla entry about

this. I

hope to fix it in a few days,  by updating GeOS to 3.3.7 and PostGIS

to

2.0.2.


I'm sure that there are for more than myself who appreciate these
efforts. Looking forward to the new releases.


Pushed updates:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/player-3.0.2-24.fc18,gdal-1.9.1-15.fc18.1,grass-6.4.2-5.fc18,geos-3.3.7-1.fc18,postgis-2.0.2-2.fc18?_csrf_token=f003677623a5c57a7aec5e6a15a0e72ae05f17db


I see that you provide
postgis
postgis-docs
postgis-utils

at http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=380648

Who provides postgis-jdbc? That needs to be aligned w/ postgis 2.x in 
order to use F18, postgresql 9.2.x, etc.


In particular, OpenJUMP (Open Java Map Program - a desktop mapping 
application) will not work w/o the postgis-jdbc component.


fyi,

Max Pyziur
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If you have a chance go test the packages, please do. They will be
available in the next 7 days or so, unless 2 people give +1 before then.

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Re: Kmail

2013-01-26 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Friday, January 25, 2013 03:58:30 Jan Litwiński wrote:
> I set up kmail to go next unread message in folder, but by mistake I
> choose  privies button, how to change it to next button

Kmail -> Settings -> Configure Shortcuts -> Next Unread Message

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Re: F17 fedora xfce spin: what display manager?

2013-01-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:09:56 +
Frank Murphy  wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:33:44 +0300
> Mihamina Rakotomandimby  wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > For F16, the XFCE spin DM was GDM.
> > What is the status for F17 and F18?
> > Did it switch to LighDM or not yet?
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> 
> F18 lightdm F17 also iirc

Yeah, f18 has switched to lightdm, but the default in f17 was still
gdm. 

You can of course switch yourself to lightdm just fine in f17. 
(or f16 for that matter). 

kevin


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Re: FC18 install - doesn't offer other OS on the drive

2013-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 26.01.2013 18:26, schrieb Bill Davidsen:
> I avoid editing the grub.cfg file for three reasons:
>   1 - I don't know what I'm doing, if magic is needed the install/upgrade
>   should be the magician. The average users knows way less than I do
>   about system setup
>   2 - The last time I did the system wound up being a totally unbootable
>   recovery adventure. See #1
>   3 - every kernel upgrade seems to rebuild the config file, making
>   change a brief success.

3 is completly untrue

until now after kernel updates grubby is adding the new one to grub config
and taking any chnage you made in the previous one to the new entry

only "grub2-mkconfig" is creating a complete new config
with all this submenu crap and so on
for kernel params "/etc/default/grub" is your friend here



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Re: [postgis-users] F18: Postgresql 9.2.x/PostGIS 1.5.x issues

2013-01-26 Thread Max Pyziur

On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 26.01.2013 17:28, schrieb Max Pyziur:

On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Jeff Lake wrote:


They probably have been packaged as RPM's yet
if that is the case, You will need to compile from source


Sorry, but that isn't what the message says. They have been packaged into RPMs 
and placed into a testing
repository. The question is which testing repository, since a standard yum 
command can't retrieve these RPMs


what is a "standard yum command" for you?
sorry but you should be specific which such things!

for me it is "yum clean metadata && yum --enablerepo=updates-testing upgrade"
or "yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update package1 package2..."


yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update gd\* postg\* geos\* gras\*

is the command that I used, 24 hours after the announcement.

fyi,

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Re: FC18 install - doesn't offer other OS on the drive

2013-01-26 Thread Bill Davidsen

Jorge Martínez López wrote:

Hi!

2013/1/25 Bill Davidsen mailto:david...@tmr.com>>

I'll see if a different subject, devoid of anything but the question, brings
a response. When I installed FC18 on a drive with FC17 and XP the installer
didn't offer an option to boot those OS as alternatives.

Is this a bug or by design.


I installed F18 in a Macbook Pro with Mac OS X in another partition and Mac OS X
shows up in Grub.

I am not sure if it is the task of the installer to set up booting other
operating systems. It is Grub that enables that. Grub2 looks for other operating
systems when updating its config and it should add them to the menu 
"automagically".

To update Grub's config I run:

# grub2-mkconfig /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

Have done that, thanks for the reminder! However, that didn't result in XP or 
fc17 being detected. Is there some magic I can do to tell grub2 to actually use 
the fc17 boot and root, or am I screwed? The XP is less of an issue, I only use 
it to check that websites are viewable with IE, and I can just boot it under KVM 
and run it in a VM.


I avoid editing the grub.cfg file for three reasons:
  1 - I don't know what I'm doing, if magic is needed the install/upgrade
  should be the magician. The average users knows way less than I do
  about system setup.
  2 - The last time I did the system wound up being a totally unbootable
  recovery adventure. See #1
  3 - every kernel upgrade seems to rebuild the config file, making
  change a brief success.

All suggestions appreciated.


(Note: I use Grub2 and BIOS, configuration for EFI is different)




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Could someone add keystroke macros to gedit and/or to gnome 3 please ?

2013-01-26 Thread Aaron Gray
Could someone add keystroke macros to gedit please ?


Aaron
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Re: [postgis-users] F18: Postgresql 9.2.x/PostGIS 1.5.x issues

2013-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 26.01.2013 17:32, schrieb Reindl Harald:
> 
> Am 26.01.2013 17:28, schrieb Max Pyziur:
>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Jeff Lake wrote:
>>
>>> They probably have been packaged as RPM's yet
>>> if that is the case, You will need to compile from source
>>
>> Sorry, but that isn't what the message says. They have been packaged into 
>> RPMs and placed into a testing
>> repository. The question is which testing repository, since a standard yum 
>> command can't retrieve these RPMs
> 
> what is a "standard yum command" for you?
> sorry but you should be specific which such things!
> 
> for me it is "yum clean metadata && yum --enablerepo=updates-testing upgrade"
> or "yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update package1 package2..."

additionally there is the koji buildserver
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=380648

you have a search box right on top



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Re: [postgis-users] F18: Postgresql 9.2.x/PostGIS 1.5.x issues

2013-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 26.01.2013 17:28, schrieb Max Pyziur:
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Jeff Lake wrote:
> 
>> They probably have been packaged as RPM's yet
>> if that is the case, You will need to compile from source
> 
> Sorry, but that isn't what the message says. They have been packaged into 
> RPMs and placed into a testing
> repository. The question is which testing repository, since a standard yum 
> command can't retrieve these RPMs

what is a "standard yum command" for you?
sorry but you should be specific which such things!

for me it is "yum clean metadata && yum --enablerepo=updates-testing upgrade"
or "yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update package1 package2..."



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Re: [postgis-users] F18: Postgresql 9.2.x/PostGIS 1.5.x issues

2013-01-26 Thread Max Pyziur

On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Jeff Lake wrote:


They probably have been packaged as RPM's yet
if that is the case, You will need to compile from source


Sorry, but that isn't what the message says. They have been packaged into 
RPMs and placed into a testing repository. The question is which testing 
repository, since a standard yum command can't retrieve these RPMs.


This is particularly frustrating, since F18 was released with Postgresql 
9.2.x, and PostGIS 1.5.x, the latter not being able to function with the 
former.


If you had data and projects running on F17 on Postgresql 9.1.x and 
PostGIS 1.5.x, and accepted a default upgrade from F17 to F18, you would 
be seriously stuck.


As it is, I have three machines, only one of which that I've migrated to 
F18 from F17.


So, I'm not that stuck.

But I would like to know where the testing RPMs are so that my data and 
projects are current across the three machines.




Jeff Lake
MichiganWxSystem
AllisonHouse
GRLevelXStuff


Max Pyziur
p...@brama.com



On 1/26/2013 10:12, Max Pyziur wrote:
  On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Devrim GÜNDÜZ wrote:


Hi,

On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 15:42 -0500, Max Pyziur wrote:
This is a known issue, and there is already a bugzilla 
entry about

  this. I
hope to fix it in a few days,  by updating GeOS to 
3.3.7 and PostGIS

  to
2.0.2.


  I'm sure that there are for more than myself who appreciate 
these
  efforts. Looking forward to the new releases.


Pushed updates:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/player-3.0.2-24.fc18,gdal-1.9.1-15.fc18.1,grass-6.4.2-5.fc18,geos-3.3.7-1.fc18,postgis-2.0.2-2.fc18?_csrf_token=f003677623a5c57a7aec5e6
a15a0e72ae05f17db

If you have a chance go test the packages, please do. They will be
available in the next 7 days or so, unless 2 people give +1 before 
then.


  I've tried finding the packages in the following way:
  yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update gd\* postg\* geos\* gras\*

  None of the versions of these packages appear.

  Is there an alternative way of getting them and installing them?




Regards,



  Thanks.

  Max Pyziur
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Re: recommendations for SSD drive as first disk for fedora 18?

2013-01-26 Thread Aaron Gray
I have one of these but on my windows 8 laptop :-


http://www.dabs.com/products/samsung-250gb-840-series-sata-6gb-s-2-5--solid-state-drive-8BNX.html

Its a good deal but SSD's are coming down in price dramatically.

Aaron



On 24 January 2013 14:38, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht <
wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Rick Stevens  writes:
> > And please, PLEASE make sure you have a reliable and consistent backup
> > procedure. I like SSDs, but when they die they generally die
> > catastrophically and completely (at least in my experience) and you may
> > not be able to recover anything from them.
>
> You can do rsyncs from /etc/cron.daily onto a spare, normally unmounted
> and spun-down, disk.  That way if your SSD ever goes south, you lose at
> most a day's work.  When I got my ssd I wasn't sure what to expect, so I
> figured I'd play it safe.  The only time I needed the daily backup was a
> goof that did involve the ssd, but was the result of confusion as to
> which directory I was in.  The incredible speed of the SSD allowed me to
> delete a few thousand pictures in approximately a second. SSD's:
> allowing you to make mistakes faster than ever before.  ;-)
>
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Re: F18: Update problems ?

2013-01-26 Thread Aaron Gray
Sorry I decided to do a netboot reinstall and everything seems fine now.
There maybe a problem with updates from the install DVD or I may have had a
system problem, or I may have been hacked. My Windows 8 has been hacked on
3 occasions now over the last three days.
Aaron
On 25 January 2013 12:01, Aaron Gray  wrote:

> On 25 January 2013 05:20, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>
>> On 01/25/2013 10:31 AM, Aaron Gray wrote:
>> > On 25 January 2013 00:51, Ed Greshko > ed.gres...@greshko.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 01/25/2013 08:32 AM, Aaron Gray wrote:
>> > > Is anyone experiencing update problems with Fedora at the moment ?
>> > >
>> > > I keep getting restarts and Gnome 3 boot failures into old
>> desktop.
>> > >
>> > > Then restart and I get Gnome 3 again after a restart and then it
>> wants to do updates again.
>> > >
>> > > And the whole thing goes in a circle.
>> >
>> > I've got a VM running Gnome 3 24/7 for testing and having no
>> problems.
>> >
>> > Errors to show us?
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for the reply. I need to know what logs to supply. I am not used
>> to Gnome 3 or system or any of the new fangled things since old Fedora 14.
>> Its all a bit new to me.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Not yet sure what logs may be relevant  But, you said you're getting
>> "boot failures" and "restarts".  Could you describe a bit more what you
>> mean by that?
>>
>> Years ago I had a "restart" problem where my system would spontaneously
>> rebootmostly when I wasn't looking.  Turned out to be a power supply
>> problem
>>
>> A bit more information may help to narrow the search for answers.
>>
>
> It was circular update reboot reboot gnome 2 reboot gonome 3 restart
> update, reboot crash, reboot, gnome 3, restart update, 
>
> Will look for logs now 
>
> Aaron
>
>
>
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Shared (Public) folders icon disappeared in F18

2013-01-26 Thread antonio montagnani
After upgrading two computers from F17 to F18, when I go to 
Nautilus/Network I should see available shared folders on both machines, 
that can share printer, I can ssh from each-other, but I cannot see 
Public Shared Folders that is an useful option in Gnome3.


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Re: How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-26 Thread Joe Zeff

On 01/26/2013 06:33 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

Welcome to emergency mode. Use "systemctl default" or ^D to enter default mode.
Give root password for maintenance
(or type Control-D to continue)
sulogin: /root: change directory failed: Permission denied


Thank you.  Whenever I see a question like that with no explanation I 
get suspicious that somebody's trying to be a cargo cult sysadmin, 
trying a drastic "solution" that they don't understand because "it 
worked ten years ago."


You might try booting from a LiveCD, chrooting and running restorecon on 
/root.  And, while I'm thinking about it, why does your boot process 
need to log in as root?  Is this something normal that I've never 
noticed, or something odd?

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Re: How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-26 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Joe Zeff  wrote:
>> I am experiencing problems with booting F18 after the last updates.
>> How can I set
>>
>> enforcing = 0
>>
>> in boot options?
>>
>
> What kind of boot problems are you getting?  Are you getting SELinux errors?
> Why do you think that this will help?

Thanks, Joe. It does not help actually, but it was suggested at:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?format=multiple&id=865399

I am getting this sort of message at boot time (I cannot boot my machine):

Welcome to emergency mode. Use "systemctl default" or ^D to enter default mode.
Give root password for maintenance
(or type Control-D to continue)
sulogin: /root: change directory failed: Permission denied

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Re: How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-26 Thread Joe Zeff

On 01/26/2013 03:16 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

Dear All,

I am experiencing problems with booting F18 after the last updates.
How can I set

enforcing = 0

in boot options?



What kind of boot problems are you getting?  Are you getting SELinux 
errors?  Why do you think that this will help?

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Re: How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
WTF - remove your signature on top and do youself a favour
and change your name to something else than "Junk"

rest of the reply at bottom

Am 26.01.2013 14:48, schrieb Junk:
> Leon L. Robinson 
> Trainer
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> +44 7576 250025
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> On 26 Jan 2013, at 13:28, Reindl Harald  wrote:
> 
>> Am 26.01.2013 14:24, schrieb Junk:
>>> Leon L. Robinson 
>>> Trainer
>>>
>>> +44 7576 250025
>>> http://uk.linkedin.com/in/leonlrobinson
>>>
>>> On 26 Jan 2013, at 11:18, Marcel Hellwig  wrote:
>>>
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>>> Isn't there a config file in /etc/selinux/ ? Or am I thinking of RHEL6 
>>> again?
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> Sorry about that. Fuck. 

and you are doing it again?!

what is so complicated remove lines from "--" to "Have a question?"
and anything looking like a signature/footer from quotes?
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and sorry BUT this signature ON TOP of your messages let you not
look smart! you can guess how much people are thinking "anoter
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Re: How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-26 Thread Junk


Leon L. Robinson 
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On 26 Jan 2013, at 13:28, Reindl Harald  wrote:

> 
> 
> Am 26.01.2013 14:24, schrieb Junk:
>> Leon L. Robinson 
>> Trainer
>> 
>> +44 7576 250025
>> http://uk.linkedin.com/in/leonlrobinson
>> 
>> On 26 Jan 2013, at 11:18, Marcel Hellwig  wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 26.01.2013 12:16, schrieb Paul Smith:
 Dear All,
 
 I am experiencing problems with booting F18 after the last updates.
 How can I set
 
 enforcing = 0
 
 in boot options?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Paul
>>> Forever or just one time?
>>> Forever:
>>> just adding it to your /etc/default/grub (but without the whitespace
>>> around) and run grub2-mkconfig -O /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
>>> should do the trick ;)
>>> Onetime:
>>> Press e when you are in grub and add enforcing=0 to the line that starts
>>> with linux
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> 
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>> Isn't there a config file in /etc/selinux/ ? Or am I thinking of RHEL6 again?
> 
> would you please strip signatures ON TOP of mails and any sort of
> fotters before post to a mailing-list? look abvoe how large is your
> message for a one liner and who the fuck has his signature on top?
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Re: Booting gets in emergency mode

2013-01-26 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Richard Sewill  wrote:
>> After doing the last F18 updates, I cannot boot my machine. I get in
>> the emergency mode and the message:
>>
>> sulogin: /root: change directory failed: Permission denied.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> I don't know if you and I have a similar problem.
>
> I did a format/install on / of F18 and have no problems with the /
> partition.
> The / partition is ext4.
>
> I did not format my /home partition.  It is still ext3.  I am having
> problems with it.
>
> rsewill@localhost:~ <3:14> $ df -T
> Filesystem Type 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
> devtmpfs   devtmpfs4650280465028   0% /dev
> tmpfs  tmpfs   476448 1436475012   1% /dev/shm
> tmpfs  tmpfs   476448 3024473424   1% /run
> tmpfs  tmpfs   4764480476448   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
> /dev/sda2  ext4  28221604  8970576  17817428  34% /
> tmpfs  tmpfs   4764488476440   1% /tmp
> /dev/sda6  ext3  75795940 31873248  40072436  45% /home
> rsewill@localhost:~ <3:15> $
>
> It seems my /home partition needs fsck repair every 5th or 6th time I
> reboot.
>
> I have to give the root password at the prompt and do
> fsck -y /home
>
> The problem on the /home partition seems to vary.
> Last time the problem was inodes multiply used in the chrome browser cache
> directory.
>
> I guess I would ask if any of your partitions are in need of fsck repair.
>
> Perhaps you can remove quiet mode and the Redhat banner from the grub2 boot
> options during boot (I think you have to figure out how to remove the quiet
> param and rhgb param from the line that start linux /boot/vmlinuz...--could
> someone correct me on this please and explain better how to do this please)
> and get messages indicating the nature of the boot problem.

Thanks, Richard. I believe that the cause is the new selinux update,
and it may be related to the following bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?format=multiple&id=865399

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Re: How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 26.01.2013 14:24, schrieb Junk:
> Leon L. Robinson 
> Trainer
> 
> +44 7576 250025
> http://uk.linkedin.com/in/leonlrobinson
> 
> On 26 Jan 2013, at 11:18, Marcel Hellwig  wrote:
> 
>> Am 26.01.2013 12:16, schrieb Paul Smith:
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> I am experiencing problems with booting F18 after the last updates.
>>> How can I set
>>>
>>> enforcing = 0
>>>
>>> in boot options?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>> Forever or just one time?
>> Forever:
>> just adding it to your /etc/default/grub (but without the whitespace
>> around) and run grub2-mkconfig -O /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
>> should do the trick ;)
>> Onetime:
>> Press e when you are in grub and add enforcing=0 to the line that starts
>> with linux
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
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> Isn't there a config file in /etc/selinux/ ? Or am I thinking of RHEL6 again?

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Re: Booting gets in emergency mode

2013-01-26 Thread Richard Sewill
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Paul Smith  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> After doing the last F18 updates, I cannot boot my machine. I get in
> the emergency mode and the message:
>
> sulogin: /root: change directory failed: Permission denied.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Paul
> --
>

I don't know if you and I have a similar problem.

I did a format/install on / of F18 and have no problems with the /
partition.
The / partition is ext4.

I did not format my /home partition.  It is still ext3.  I am having
problems with it.

rsewill@localhost:~ <3:14> $ df -T
Filesystem Type 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs   devtmpfs4650280465028   0% /dev
tmpfs  tmpfs   476448 1436475012   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs  tmpfs   476448 3024473424   1% /run
tmpfs  tmpfs   4764480476448   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/sda2  ext4  28221604  8970576  17817428  34% /
tmpfs  tmpfs   4764488476440   1% /tmp
/dev/sda6  ext3  75795940 31873248  40072436  45% /home
rsewill@localhost:~ <3:15> $

It seems my /home partition needs fsck repair every 5th or 6th time I
reboot.

I have to give the root password at the prompt and do
fsck -y /home

The problem on the /home partition seems to vary.
Last time the problem was inodes multiply used in the chrome browser cache
directory.

I guess I would ask if any of your partitions are in need of fsck repair.

Perhaps you can remove quiet mode and the Redhat banner from the grub2 boot
options during boot (I think you have to figure out how to remove the quiet
param and rhgb param from the line that start linux /boot/vmlinuz...--could
someone correct me on this please and explain better how to do this please)
and get messages indicating the nature of the boot problem.
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Re: How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-26 Thread Junk


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On 26 Jan 2013, at 11:18, Marcel Hellwig  wrote:

> Am 26.01.2013 12:16, schrieb Paul Smith:
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> I am experiencing problems with booting F18 after the last updates.
>> How can I set
>> 
>> enforcing = 0
>> 
>> in boot options?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
> Forever or just one time?
> Forever:
> just adding it to your /etc/default/grub (but without the whitespace
> around) and run grub2-mkconfig -O /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
> should do the trick ;)
> Onetime:
> Press e when you are in grub and add enforcing=0 to the line that starts
> with linux
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> 
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Isn't there a config file in /etc/selinux/ ? Or am I thinking of RHEL6 again?
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Re: disable IPv6?

2013-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 26.01.2013 07:52, schrieb Wolfgang S. Rupprecht:
> I've never felt the need for one of these routers to be between my
> internal ethernet and the dsl or cable modem.  The software on them
> usually sucks and the CPU is usually underpowered compared to a desktop
> machine running with two ethernets.

no problem if your system is not windows and always up to date
if your OS is windows or even more worse MacOSX it would be pretty
dumb connect it diretly to the net



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Re: F17 fedora xfce spin: what display manager?

2013-01-26 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:33:44 +0300
Mihamina Rakotomandimby  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> For F16, the XFCE spin DM was GDM.
> What is the status for F17 and F18?
> Did it switch to LighDM or not yet?
> 
> Thank you.
> 

F18 lightdm F17 also iirc



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F17 fedora xfce spin: what display manager?

2013-01-26 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

Hi all,

For F16, the XFCE spin DM was GDM.
What is the status for F17 and F18?
Did it switch to LighDM or not yet?

Thank you.

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Re: How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-26 Thread Marcel Hellwig
Am 26.01.2013 12:16, schrieb Paul Smith:
> Dear All,
> 
> I am experiencing problems with booting F18 after the last updates.
> How can I set
> 
> enforcing = 0
> 
> in boot options?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Paul
> 
Forever or just one time?
Forever:
just adding it to your /etc/default/grub (but without the whitespace
around) and run grub2-mkconfig -O /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
should do the trick ;)
Onetime:
Press e when you are in grub and add enforcing=0 to the line that starts
with linux

Regards





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How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-26 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All,

I am experiencing problems with booting F18 after the last updates.
How can I set

enforcing = 0

in boot options?

Thanks in advance,

Paul
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Re: F18 sound issue

2013-01-26 Thread Frédéric Bron
>> New strange thing: I have just plugged my camcorder and obtained the
>> following message in a popup window:
>> "KDE a détecté qu'un ou plusieurs périphériques internes ont été enlevés.
>> Voulez-vous que KDE oublie ces périphériques de façon permanente ?
>> Voici la liste des périphériques que KDE pense être enlevés :
>> Sortie : HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog (Default Audio Device)"
>> which I can try to translate like this:
>> "KDE detected that one or more internal devices have been removed.
>> Would you like that KDE forgets those devices for ever?
>> Here is the list of devices that KDE thinks are removed:
>> Output : HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog (Default Audio Device)"
>
> I get something like that from time to time.  Don't know what triggers it and 
> forgetting the devices has never caused my issues.

Hey, look, I just answered Yes to forget the device and everthings
works perfectly now. Hope it won't come bad again.
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Re: F18 sound issue

2013-01-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/26/2013 05:19 PM, Frédéric Bron wrote:
>> In KDE, if you bring up "System Settings" and then go to 
>> "Multimedia-->Phonon" and then look at all the various "Audio Playback" 
>> categories you should see a number of entries.  HDMI should be down in the 
>> list to give it less preferential treatment.
> I have done that but it always comes back later to the top of the list!

That is strange.   When it is at the top is everything working correctly?

My system is a desktop and I have no issues.  I'm using, forced to use, the 
nVidia drivers since my GT240 card isn't supported by nouveau.

>
> New strange thing: I have just plugged my camcorder and obtained the
> following message in a popup window:
> "KDE a détecté qu'un ou plusieurs périphériques internes ont été enlevés.
> Voulez-vous que KDE oublie ces périphériques de façon permanente ?
> Voici la liste des périphériques que KDE pense être enlevés :
> Sortie : HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog (Default Audio Device)"
> which I can try to translate like this:
> "KDE detected that one or more internal devices have been removed.
> Would you like that KDE forgets those devices for ever?
> Here is the list of devices that KDE thinks are removed:
> Output : HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog (Default Audio Device)"
>

I get something like that from time to time.  Don't know what triggers it and 
forgetting the devices has never caused my issues.

My system is a fresh install, except for the /home directory.


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Re: F18 sound issue

2013-01-26 Thread Frédéric Bron
> In KDE, if you bring up "System Settings" and then go to 
> "Multimedia-->Phonon" and then look at all the various "Audio Playback" 
> categories you should see a number of entries.  HDMI should be down in the 
> list to give it less preferential treatment.

I have done that but it always comes back later to the top of the list!

New strange thing: I have just plugged my camcorder and obtained the
following message in a popup window:
"KDE a détecté qu'un ou plusieurs périphériques internes ont été enlevés.
Voulez-vous que KDE oublie ces périphériques de façon permanente ?
Voici la liste des périphériques que KDE pense être enlevés :
Sortie : HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog (Default Audio Device)"
which I can try to translate like this:
"KDE detected that one or more internal devices have been removed.
Would you like that KDE forgets those devices for ever?
Here is the list of devices that KDE thinks are removed:
Output : HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog (Default Audio Device)"

Frédéric
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Re: F18 sound issue

2013-01-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/26/2013 04:25 PM, Frédéric Bron wrote:
> I am using F18 + KDE on a notebook.
> I have an nvidia video card (GeForce GTX 560M) which inclues HDMI
> support but I am not using the HDMI output, only the internal screen
> and speakers.
> On F17, everything was fine.
> On F18, the keyboard volume buttons (stop, more, less) do not work
> anymore. I can see the box with percentage changing and sound/no sound
> icon but it does not do anything.
> Also, when I click in the panel volume icon (KMix), I can see that HDA
> nvidia digital stereo (HDMI) is selected but I do not want to use that
> one, I want to use the internal speaker.
> Also, pluging a headset do not work properly.
> In KMix control panel, I see that HDA NVidia is selected for "sound
> card" but if I choose Internal audio, it comes back later to HDA
> NVidia.
> I do not know what to do to have this working normally.
> I see from another thread that maybe this could be related to
> pulseaudio. It seems pulseaudio is not working for me:
> $ pulseaudio --check
> gives empty output.
> $ ps ux|grep puseaudio
> gives nothing either (as root)
> Any help would be appreciated.

In KDE, if you bring up "System Settings" and then go to "Multimedia-->Phonon" 
and then look at all the various "Audio Playback" categories you should see a 
number of entries.  HDMI should be down in the list to give it less 
preferential treatment.


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