Re: fedup and selinux

2013-12-24 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
I have learned MORE about SELinux just being on this mailing list than 
from ANY other source out there!thanks to all for your responses to 
this(this will only help me in my pursuit of RHCE certification!..)



EGO II





On 12/24/2013 04:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Hi


On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

I don't have examples at hand, but I have seen FTP-related stuff, some
upgrades and some other network-related things fail when SELinux is in
permissive mode and work just fine when it's disabled.


The default SELinux policy in Fedora is fairly relaxed anyway since it 
has to work out of the box for most users but once it it goes into 
permissive mode, any enforcement must be treated as a bug and 
reported.   The goal of permissive model is to purely log policy 
issues.   Permissive domains in SELinux mean an entirely different 
thing however and shouldn''t be confused with permissive mode.


Rahul




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Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 06:30:22 +0100
lee  wrote:

> A system cannot correctly function without a way for such processes
> to send email.

Yes, they can. Cron can work whether you know about it or not
eg. "journalctl | grep cron | less 
# man journalctl if worried

you can always flag on "warning, fail, etc.."

If you have just installed Fedora from F20+
yum install mta (of choice, if required) 

> 
> Has all the software that (potentially) sends email been modified to
> accommodate a crippled system?

How is it crippled, it's still logged?

> 
> What happens when you have an MTA installed?  Will you still not
> receive such email?

That depends if you have it setup to receive or not.

> 
> What happens when you upgrade?  So far, exim still seems to work
> after upgrading.
> 

That's because (MTA) hasn't been obsoleted

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Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-24 Thread lee
Suvayu Ali  writes:

> Hi,
>
> I have a question.
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:02:30AM -0500, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
>> 
>> == No Default Sendmail, Syslog ==
>> 
>> In the interests of paring down services that are generally not used
>> on desktop systems, Fedora 20 removes and replaces some services that
>> many users find unnecessary from the Live Desktop DVD. They will
>> remain available as installable packages for users who might need
>> them.
>> 
>> The systemd journal now takes the place as the default logging
>> solution for minimal and other selected installation methods, such as
>> the Live Desktop DVD, having been tested and able to manage persistent
>> logging in place of syslog.
>> 
>> Also, Sendmail will no longer be installed by default, as most Fedora
>> installs have no need of a Mail Transfer Agent (MTA).
>
> Does this mean there won't be any system mail (e.g. mail from root, cron
> jobs, etc)?  I have never really used sendmail, but I always thought
> system mail was handled by the default MTA; hence my question.

A system cannot correctly function without a way for such processes to
send email.

Has all the software that (potentially) sends email been modified to
accommodate a crippled system?

What happens when you have an MTA installed?  Will you still not receive
such email?

What happens when you upgrade?  So far, exim still seems to work after
upgrading.


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Re: Use firewall-cmd to filter by MAC address?

2013-12-24 Thread Anthony Messina
On Saturday, December 21, 2013 01:31:30 AM Michael Hannon wrote:
> Greetings. In a previous version of Fedora I had iptables rules of the
> form:
> 
> -A INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 25 -m mac --mac-source \
> AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF -j ACCEPT
> 
> in order to accept email only from selected local systems.
> 
> I've just installed Fedora 20, and I'm trying to implement the same kind of
> thing using:
> 
> firewall-cmd
> 
> but I've been unable to figure out how to do this. Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- Mike

I believe the firewalld devs are working on this, but for now, you can 
manually enter something like the following in /etc/firewalld/direct.xml.  Of 
course, you'll need to unwrap the lines and choose the right chain for your 
system (it might not be IN_internal_allow).  I use something like this for my 
HDHomeRun tuners.



  -t filter -A IN_internal_allow -m mac --mac-source \ 
AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF -j ACCEPT
  -t filter -A IN_internal_allow -m mac --mac-source \ 
AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF -j ACCEPT


Merry Christmas!
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Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM

2013-12-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/24/13 23:59, Greg Woods wrote:
> flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe
> syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good
> nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64
> monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2
> movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm
> ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept
> vpid fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid
> bogomips: 6995.85
> clflush size: 64
> cache_alignment : 64
> address sizes   : 39 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
> power management:
>
>> > And maybe
>> > 
>> > lshw -C processor | grep width
>> > lscpu | grep "CPU op-mode"
> [root@mongoliad mythtv]# lshw -C processor | grep width
>width: 64 bits
> [root@mongoliad mythtv]# lscpu | grep "CPU op-mode"
> CPU op-mode(s):32-bit, 64-bit

Time to file a "bugzilla" with Oracle.   :-)

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Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?

2013-12-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/24/13 23:07, Leonid Flaks wrote:
> Did you look into /etc/nfsmount.conf file? It has lots of useful hints in 
> comments and seems to be able to control NFS versions at 3 levels - per mount 
> point, per server and globally. It is done on the client end. 

That is OKbut doesn't fit the bill for what the OP wanted.  The OP wanted 
to limit the versions being offered by the "server".

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Re: Trying to install to new drive, but drive caddy torked

2013-12-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/24/2013 01:49 PM, Chris Adams wrote:

Once upon a time, Chris Murphy  said:

If the head has been stripped, the driver is wrong sized for the screw. An 
exactly right sized driver with moderate pressure will unstick a tight screw so 
long as it isn't actually glued. And in that case with even more pressure it 
should still crack the glue with less than Herculean effort.

My Thinkpads have thread-lock on all screws, so that may explain why it
is so difficult to break the screw free.
The super glue got one out, but still ruined the screwdriver.  Then I 
found a #0 phillips with more substance to it, and it got the other 
three out.  Boy were they tight!  Most likely a touch of thread-lock on 
all of them.



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Re: fedup and selinux

2013-12-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi


On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Rick Stevens  wrote:

> I don't have examples at hand, but I have seen FTP-related stuff, some
> upgrades and some other network-related things fail when SELinux is in
> permissive mode and work just fine when it's disabled.
>

The default SELinux policy in Fedora is fairly relaxed anyway since it has
to work out of the box for most users but once it it goes into permissive
mode, any enforcement must be treated as a bug and reported.   The goal of
permissive model is to purely log policy issues.   Permissive domains in
SELinux mean an entirely different thing however and shouldn''t be confused
with permissive mode.

Rahul
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Re: nx-3.5.0-17.fc19.src.rpm

2013-12-24 Thread Sherman Grunewagen

On 12/24/2013 12:28 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Where can I get nx-3.5.0-17.fc19.src.rpm?
It does not seem to be available anywhere!




rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/26/dist/86/size/24252532/name/nx-3.5.0-17.fc19.src.rpm

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Re: Gnome login hangs F20 after fedup upgrade

2013-12-24 Thread Pete Travis
On Dec 24, 2013 1:34 PM, "David Highley" 
wrote:
>

( I wrote )
> > And with the new user account? This is a crucial test, because tweaking
> > your config files and troubleshooting the display stack are very
different.
>
(Reply)
> Bingo, seems to be old scruff somewhere in the accounts that is
> preventing the logins from working. Did two tests. One with a local new
> account and another with the account on the remote user server using
> autofs and NFS to server the home directories. Both tests worked.
>
> Now do we take a meat axe and remove all the dot directories or in great
> pain discover what is blocking the logins from working. Note we have
> already removed every directory and file that had gnome in the name.
>
>

Only you can answer this question. If you only have a hammer in your
toolbox, use the hammer. If you have some patience and a scalpel, you can
be more selective.

BTW, there's nothing that says that any file created by GNOME must have
"gnome" in the file name, and nothing that restricts GNOME from using files
that don't have "gnome" in the file name.  It's a good start, but the
process continues.

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Re: how to set up my "fetchmail" on f20 without sendmail?

2013-12-24 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

"Robert P. J. Day"  writes:
> since (obviously), without sendmail, nothing is listening on port
> 25. so what's the solution these days? a pointer to a web page
> somewhere would work just fine. thanks.

Since mail at your ISP is most likely going to all go to one user,
piping it into a full-blown MTA is overkill.  I just have ISP imaps mail
placed into the user's mbox directly with getmail(1).  I run getmail out
of the user's own crontab twice an hour.

   yum install getmail

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Re: nx-3.5.0-17.fc19.src.rpm

2013-12-24 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Patrick Dupre  wrote:
> Where can I get nx-3.5.0-17.fc19.src.rpm?
> It does not seem to be available anywhere!

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=390227

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Re: Gnome login hangs F20 after fedup upgrade

2013-12-24 Thread David Highley
"Pete Travis wrote:"
> 
> --===8084609375064345886==
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c36c50d0f15c04ee3edcaa
> 
> --001a11c36c50d0f15c04ee3edcaa
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> On Dec 23, 2013 4:47 PM, "David Highley" 
> wrote:
> >
> > "
> >
> > OK, I did find those and some old gnome2 stuff. So I went the drastic
> > route and wiped out all files and directories with gnome in the name.
> > Still get the same results.
> >
> 
> And with the new user account? This is a crucial test, because tweaking
> your config files and troubleshooting the display stack are very different.

Bingo, seems to be old scruff somewhere in the accounts that is
preventing the logins from working. Did two tests. One with a local new
account and another with the account on the remote user server using
autofs and NFS to server the home directories. Both tests worked.

Now do we take a meat axe and remove all the dot directories or in great
pain discover what is blocking the logins from working. Note we have
already removed every directory and file that had gnome in the name.

> 
> --Pete
> 
> --001a11c36c50d0f15c04ee3edcaa
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> 
> On Dec 23, 2013 4:47 PM, "David Highley" < href="mailto:dhigh...@highley-recommended.com";>dhigh...@highley-recommended.com>
>  wrote:
> >
> > "
> >
> > OK, I did find those and some old gnome2 stuff. So I went the drastic
> > route and wiped out all files and directories with gnome in the name.
> > Still get the same results.
> >
> And with the new user account? This is a crucial test, because 
> tweaking your config files and troubleshooting the display stack are very 
> different. 
> --Pete
> 
> 
> --001a11c36c50d0f15c04ee3edcaa--
> 
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nx-3.5.0-17.fc19.src.rpm

2013-12-24 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,

Where can I get nx-3.5.0-17.fc19.src.rpm?
It does not seem to be available anywhere!

Thank.

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Re: how to set up my "fetchmail" on f20 without sendmail?

2013-12-24 Thread Robert P. J. Day

Quoting Michael Schwendt :


On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:55:14 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:


   finally getting around to building my new f20 machine and, as i
read it, f20 now ships without sendmail.


By default. Of course, you could install sendmail, which is still
available.


   so far, to match what i've used for years, i've installed on my
f20 box:

   * alpine
   * fetchmail

and i've copied over from my old (ubuntu) system the relevant files:

   * .addressbook{,.lu}
   * .pinerc
   * .fetchmailrc

i can check that there is mail waiting at my ISP with:

   $ fetchmail -c

and sure enough, there's a pile of mail there. however, not
surprisingly, if i try to fetch it, i get:

fetchmail: Connection errors for this poll:
name 0: connection to localhost:smtp [::1/25] failed: Connection refused.
name 1: connection to localhost:smtp [127.0.0.1/25] failed: Connection
refused.
fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed

since (obviously), without sendmail, nothing is listening on port
25. so what's the solution these days? a pointer to a web page
somewhere would work just fine. thanks.


Depends on whether you need sendmail for how you use fetchmail.
I run fetchmail with option   mda "/usr/bin/procmail -t -f -"
to deliver (and filter) via procmail.


  hmmm ... i may try that. i assume that, with this approach, i
won't need to install sendmail, correct? and if i choose to use
procmail, will this simply deliver mail for me locally even
before i start to configure my procmail rules? thanks.

rday

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Re: fedup and selinux

2013-12-24 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 24, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> 
> 
> As I said, I don't have examples but the OP on this thread ran into the
> same thing I've hit in the past. He went from permissive to disabled and
> it worked. I'm just saying that permissive is not the same thing as
> disabled.

Ok no, that's not what happened to the OP at all as I explained earlier. His 
system booted in enforcing, and it was while it was enforcing that he got the 
denial prior to the fedup upgrade process changing to enforcing=0. He solved 
this problem by selinux=0 rather than enforcing=0.

Prior versions of fedup placed enforcing=0 as a boot parameter so it would have 
been permissive from the get go and would have avoided this problem, as most 
likely would a relabel prior to rebooting in the upgrade environment. Rebooting 
with selinux actually disabled for an upgrade is really not a good idea because 
as the new rpms are written, none of those installed bits will have the proper 
labeling.


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Re: how to set up my "fetchmail" on f20 without sendmail?

2013-12-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:55:14 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

>finally getting around to building my new f20 machine and, as i
> read it, f20 now ships without sendmail.

By default. Of course, you could install sendmail, which is still
available.
 
>so far, to match what i've used for years, i've installed on my
> f20 box:
> 
>* alpine
>* fetchmail
> 
> and i've copied over from my old (ubuntu) system the relevant files:
> 
>* .addressbook{,.lu}
>* .pinerc
>* .fetchmailrc
> 
> i can check that there is mail waiting at my ISP with:
> 
>$ fetchmail -c
> 
> and sure enough, there's a pile of mail there. however, not
> surprisingly, if i try to fetch it, i get:
> 
> fetchmail: Connection errors for this poll:
> name 0: connection to localhost:smtp [::1/25] failed: Connection refused.
> name 1: connection to localhost:smtp [127.0.0.1/25] failed: Connection  
> refused.
> fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed
> 
> since (obviously), without sendmail, nothing is listening on port
> 25. so what's the solution these days? a pointer to a web page
> somewhere would work just fine. thanks.

Depends on whether you need sendmail for how you use fetchmail.
I run fetchmail with option   mda "/usr/bin/procmail -t -f -"
to deliver (and filter) via procmail.
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Re: F20: yum update does not automatically update grub2

2013-12-24 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 11:52:11 -0700 Chris Murphy
 wrote:

> 
> On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Ranjan Maitra  
> wrote:
> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> grub2-install --debug /dev/sda
> 
> 
> Looks good.
> 
> > 
> >> bash -x grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
> 
> FYI:
> Line 79, I do not see resume= having been added to /etc/default/grub, 
> therefore it won't be in the grub.cfg.

Thanks! I made a mistake in the /boot/grub2/grub.cfg entry. (Forgot to
actually put in resume= ... I have now fixed that and it shows in there.

> Line 127/128, it found kernel 3.12.5-302 and its initramfs.
> Line 129 only kernel 3.11.10-301 is found, this probably isn't a bootable 
> kernel option.
> Line 130/131 is the rescue kernel and initramfs, it should work and chances 
> are it's 3.11.10-301.
> 
> 
> > 
> >> /boot/grub2/grub.cfg  #from the above command
> 
> This looks better than the original one, the root=UUID= is present 
> instead of referring to root with /dev/sd3. As expected, contains working 
> 3.12 and rescue kernel boot options. The 3.11.10 option probably ends in a 
> kernel panic, because line 91 lacks an initrd command for this kernel entry.
> 
> I suggest you do not yum erase the 3.11.10 kernel, because that will remove 
> all of its modules, which the rescue kernel depends on. To remove this from 
> the grub menu, just rm -f the vmlinuz-3.11.10 kernel from the /boot 
> directory. If you want you can also remove its config file. Then you can 
> rerun: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg and it will no longer have the 
> 3.11.10 option, just the working 3.12.5 and rescue options.
> 
> When the next kernel update comes out, it ought to update this grub.cfg now. 
> If not report back and we'll try to figure out what's going on.

Thanks very much! This has been an enormous help!

Booting into the 3.12.5 kernel now.

Best wishes,
Ranjan

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Re: fedup and selinux

2013-12-24 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 24, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Rick Stevens  wrote:

> On 12/24/2013 01:42 AM, Bill Murray issued this missive:
>>   Dear all,
>> I had trouble persuading 'fedup --network 20' to run on my f19
>> laptop.  It install all the files and gets ready. Then it boots and gets
>> as far as:
>> 
>> [ OK ] Started trigger flushing of journal to persistent storage
>> [ OK ] Started Forward Password Requests to Plymouth
>> [ OK ] Started Forward Password Requests to Plymouth
>> [ OK] Started Recreate Volatile files and Directories
>> There are then 3 lines of selinux permission denied. But no problem,
>> selinux is set permissive anyway.
>> 
>> Earlier on I see 'dracut-initqueue[400] failed to issue method call:
>> Access denied'
>> 
>> However, when I add selinux=0 to the command line..installation proceeds.
>> This is very odd - selinux was in permissive mode.
> 
> I've said this before and I'll say it again...permissive mode does NOT
> allow ALL access (permissive != disabled, despite what others may say).
> If you see selinux deny messages, it's still being denied. I've seen
> this bite people a number of times.


When enforcing=0 it reports denial messages, it does not enforce the denials.

http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/24537.html
http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/10972.html

You might be thinking of the application of permissive domains, which largely 
still causes enforcement of denials to occur. 


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how to set up my "fetchmail" on f20 without sendmail?

2013-12-24 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  finally getting around to building my new f20 machine and, as i
read it, f20 now ships without sendmail.

  so far, to match what i've used for years, i've installed on my
f20 box:

  * alpine
  * fetchmail

and i've copied over from my old (ubuntu) system the relevant files:

  * .addressbook{,.lu}
  * .pinerc
  * .fetchmailrc

i can check that there is mail waiting at my ISP with:

  $ fetchmail -c

and sure enough, there's a pile of mail there. however, not
surprisingly, if i try to fetch it, i get:

fetchmail: Connection errors for this poll:
name 0: connection to localhost:smtp [::1/25] failed: Connection refused.
name 1: connection to localhost:smtp [127.0.0.1/25] failed: Connection  
refused.

fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed

since (obviously), without sendmail, nothing is listening on port
25. so what's the solution these days? a pointer to a web page
somewhere would work just fine. thanks.

rday

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Re: F20: yum update does not automatically update grub2

2013-12-24 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Ranjan Maitra  
wrote:

>> 
>> 
>> grub2-install --debug /dev/sda


Looks good.

> 
>> bash -x grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

FYI:
Line 79, I do not see resume= having been added to /etc/default/grub, therefore 
it won't be in the grub.cfg.

Line 127/128, it found kernel 3.12.5-302 and its initramfs.
Line 129 only kernel 3.11.10-301 is found, this probably isn't a bootable 
kernel option.
Line 130/131 is the rescue kernel and initramfs, it should work and chances are 
it's 3.11.10-301.


> 
>> /boot/grub2/grub.cfg  #from the above command

This looks better than the original one, the root=UUID= is present 
instead of referring to root with /dev/sd3. As expected, contains working 3.12 
and rescue kernel boot options. The 3.11.10 option probably ends in a kernel 
panic, because line 91 lacks an initrd command for this kernel entry.

I suggest you do not yum erase the 3.11.10 kernel, because that will remove all 
of its modules, which the rescue kernel depends on. To remove this from the 
grub menu, just rm -f the vmlinuz-3.11.10 kernel from the /boot directory. If 
you want you can also remove its config file. Then you can rerun: 
grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg and it will no longer have the 3.11.10 
option, just the working 3.12.5 and rescue options.

When the next kernel update comes out, it ought to update this grub.cfg now. If 
not report back and we'll try to figure out what's going on.


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Re: fedup and selinux

2013-12-24 Thread Rick Stevens

On 12/24/2013 10:27 AM, Marko Vojinovic issued this missive:

On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 09:48:38 -0800
Rick Stevens  wrote:

I've said this before and I'll say it again...permissive mode does NOT
allow ALL access (permissive != disabled, despite what others may
say). If you see selinux deny messages, it's still being denied. I've
seen this bite people a number of times.


Care to give a F18/19/20-working example of this?

IOW, provide a sequence of steps on a clean Fedora install that works
with selinux disabled, while it fails with selinux in permissive mode?


I don't have examples at hand, but I have seen FTP-related stuff, some
upgrades and some other network-related things fail when SELinux is in
permissive mode and work just fine when it's disabled. I never bothered
tracking specifically what they are--it's just when they poop out, I've
disabled SELinux, redone it and it's worked fine. I have then put it
back in permissive mode, looked at the denial messages and put in local
rules to cover them and gone to "targeted" mode.

Permissive does allow most actions, but there are some things it still
denies. I guess "permissive" should be taken literally, like "we're
relaxing most of the rules, but there are some we are going to enforce
as long as we're in charge."

As I said, I don't have examples but the OP on this thread ran into the
same thing I've hit in the past. He went from permissive to disabled and
it worked. I'm just saying that permissive is not the same thing as
disabled.
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Re: Trying to install to new drive, but drive caddy torked

2013-12-24 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Chris Murphy  said:
> If the head has been stripped, the driver is wrong sized for the screw. An 
> exactly right sized driver with moderate pressure will unstick a tight screw 
> so long as it isn't actually glued. And in that case with even more pressure 
> it should still crack the glue with less than Herculean effort.

My Thinkpads have thread-lock on all screws, so that may explain why it
is so difficult to break the screw free.
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Re: fedup and selinux

2013-12-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 09:48:38 -0800
Rick Stevens  wrote:
> I've said this before and I'll say it again...permissive mode does NOT
> allow ALL access (permissive != disabled, despite what others may
> say). If you see selinux deny messages, it's still being denied. I've
> seen this bite people a number of times.

Care to give a F18/19/20-working example of this?

IOW, provide a sequence of steps on a clean Fedora install that works
with selinux disabled, while it fails with selinux in permissive mode?

Best, :-)
Marko

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Re: F20: yum update does not automatically update grub2

2013-12-24 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 18:53:26 +0100 Michael Schwendt
 wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 10:28:37 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> 
> > > bash -x grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
> > 
> > Uploading (8.6KiB)...
> > http://ur1.ca/g93u5 -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/64214/02391138
> 
> So, the initrd for the F20 release kernel 3.11.10-301.fc20 is missing
> here, too:
> 
>   + echo '### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###'
>   + /etc/grub.d/10_linux
>   Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.12.5-302.fc20.x86_64
>   Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-3.12.5-302.fc20.x86_64.img
>   Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64
>   Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-0-rescue-26b05c2e8b5144b4b396c604c823681b
>   Found initrd image: 
> /boot/initramfs-0-rescue-26b05c2e8b5144b4b396c604c823681b.img
>   + echo '### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###'
> 
> Have you ever booted with that kernel after installing F20?
> Probably not. ;)

H, actually I have. This is a new install, and I rebooted a few
times.

> Everything related to updating grub.cfg should work normally for the
> next kernel update.

OK, this means that I should reboot now?

> Once you've booted to the latest kernel, you could erase the previous
> kernel with "yum remove kernel-3.11.10-301.fc20" or generate the missing
> initrd for it as a fallback:
>  
>   $ su -
>   # dracut /boot/initramfs-3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64.img 3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64

Thanks again!
Ranjan

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Re: F20: yum update does not automatically update grub2

2013-12-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 10:28:37 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

> > bash -x grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
> 
> Uploading (8.6KiB)...
> http://ur1.ca/g93u5 -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/64214/02391138

So, the initrd for the F20 release kernel 3.11.10-301.fc20 is missing
here, too:

  + echo '### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###'
  + /etc/grub.d/10_linux
  Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.12.5-302.fc20.x86_64
  Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-3.12.5-302.fc20.x86_64.img
  Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64
  Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-0-rescue-26b05c2e8b5144b4b396c604c823681b
  Found initrd image: 
/boot/initramfs-0-rescue-26b05c2e8b5144b4b396c604c823681b.img
  + echo '### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###'

Have you ever booted with that kernel after installing F20?
Probably not. ;)

Everything related to updating grub.cfg should work normally for the
next kernel update.

Once you've booted to the latest kernel, you could erase the previous
kernel with "yum remove kernel-3.11.10-301.fc20" or generate the missing
initrd for it as a fallback:
 
  $ su -
  # dracut /boot/initramfs-3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64.img 3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64
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Re: Linux hardening with Lynis

2013-12-24 Thread Rick Stevens

On 12/24/2013 08:21 AM, bruce issued this missive:

Hey.

Looked over your link/app. how is this any different from
rkhunter/chkrootkit or any of the other apps that inspect files for
changes to indicate a potential root/virus issue?

Does anyone know of an app/process that can prevent a rootkit/virus
from modifying files, as opposed to simply detecting when/if a file
has been modified?


SELinux can help with this. Also look at a hardened kernel such as
grsecurity (http://grsecurity.net/)


On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:39 AM, M. Boelen  wrote:

Hi,

I saw your post regarding guidance to harden/secure a Linux system [1].
Did you already try my open source tool Lynis?

http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/lynis.html

Kind regards,

Michael


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Re: fedup and selinux

2013-12-24 Thread Rick Stevens

On 12/24/2013 01:42 AM, Bill Murray issued this missive:

   Dear all,
 I had trouble persuading 'fedup --network 20' to run on my f19
laptop.  It install all the files and gets ready. Then it boots and gets
as far as:

[ OK ] Started trigger flushing of journal to persistent storage
[ OK ] Started Forward Password Requests to Plymouth
[ OK ] Started Forward Password Requests to Plymouth
[ OK] Started Recreate Volatile files and Directories
There are then 3 lines of selinux permission denied. But no problem,
selinux is set permissive anyway.

Earlier on I see 'dracut-initqueue[400] failed to issue method call:
Access denied'

However, when I add selinux=0 to the command line..installation proceeds.
This is very odd - selinux was in permissive mode.


I've said this before and I'll say it again...permissive mode does NOT
allow ALL access (permissive != disabled, despite what others may say).
If you see selinux deny messages, it's still being denied. I've seen
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Re: Trying to install to new drive, but drive caddy torked

2013-12-24 Thread Doug

On 12/24/2013 12:21 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/24/2013 12:08 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:59 AM, murph  wrote:


  crazy glue in the screw.

neat trick.


At this point it is well worth trying.  I not only want the caddy for 
the new SSD, but the old drive I want to put into an enclosure.


If you damage the screws and have to replace them, remember that they're 
probably metric threads!


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Re: Trying to install to new drive, but drive caddy torked

2013-12-24 Thread Rick Stevens

On 12/24/2013 08:59 AM, murph issued this missive:

Something I've done successfully in the past for small, nearly stripped screws:

Put a drop of crazy glue in the screw.  Put the screwdriver in as
straight as you can and balance against something.  Let dry.  Now try
to get the screw out.

Sounds crazy, but it has worked.   Of course, this is last resort
before drilling it out.


Often 5-minute epoxy works better (thicker, goey-ier, can take a bit
more torque and off-axis force than Crazy Glue). If the carrier isn't
plastic, try a 30-watt soldering iron applied (no tinning) to the center
of the screw head. Heat will often loosen that stuff.

That being said, I've drilled and ez-outed more screws (from #2s and up) 
and bolts (I have old Jaguar cars) than I care to think about.

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Re: Trying to install to new drive, but drive caddy torked

2013-12-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/24/2013 12:08 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:59 AM, murph  wrote:


  crazy glue in the screw.

neat trick.


BTW, the reason I can hold this conversation and talk about taking apart 
a drive caddy, is I have an old one from a fried system.


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Re: Trying to install to new drive, but drive caddy torked

2013-12-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/24/2013 12:08 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:59 AM, murph  wrote:


  crazy glue in the screw.

neat trick.


At this point it is well worth trying.  I not only want the caddy for 
the new SSD, but the old drive I want to put into an enclosure.


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Re: Trying to install to new drive, but drive caddy torked

2013-12-24 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:59 AM, murph  wrote:

>  crazy glue in the screw.

neat trick.

Chris Murphy

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Re: Trying to install to new drive, but drive caddy torked

2013-12-24 Thread murph
Something I've done successfully in the past for small, nearly stripped screws:

Put a drop of crazy glue in the screw.  Put the screwdriver in as
straight as you can and balance against something.  Let dry.  Now try
to get the screw out.

Sounds crazy, but it has worked.   Of course, this is last resort
before drilling it out.

  --murph

On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
>

>
> Right size screwdriver: Phillips #0; I have been doing this for close to 60
> years.  Stripping phillips head screws that is :)
> Heads not stripped. yet.  Being careful.
> Lots of pressure tried.  Including holding screwdriver with wrench and
> trying to turn.  But can't maintain enough downward pressure to get it to
> budge.
> Heads not raised enough to grab with any pliers I own, and I have a lot of
> them.  Maybe try and file the heads square and see if that makes grabbing
> them easier.
>

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Re: Trying to install to new drive, but drive caddy torked

2013-12-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/24/2013 11:33 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:



> On Dec 24, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Robert Moskowitz 
> wrote:
>
>> Can't get the screws loose on the drive caddy (lenovo e120x)!
>> Someone really torked them tight or glued them in.  :(
>>
>> $9.9 to buy one used from someone that either figured out how to
>> loosen the screws or has the right tools.
>>
>> Venting here.
>
> If the head has been stripped, the driver is wrong sized for the
> screw. An exactly right sized driver with moderate pressure will
> unstick a tight screw so long as it isn't actually glued. And in that
> case with even more pressure it should still crack the glue with less
> than Herculean effort.
>
> If the screw head is stripped and sticks out a bit you can use a
> small file to create a couple notches top and bottom of the screw
> then use needle nose pliers to unscrew it. Or you'll have to drill it
> out.

Thanks but...

Right size screwdriver: Phillips #0; I have been doing this for close to 
60 years.  Stripping phillips head screws that is :)

Heads not stripped. yet.  Being careful.
Lots of pressure tried.  Including holding screwdriver with wrench and 
trying to turn.  But can't maintain enough downward pressure to get it 
to budge.
Heads not raised enough to grab with any pliers I own, and I have a lot 
of them.  Maybe try and file the heads square and see if that makes 
grabbing them easier.


Stupid manufacturers.




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Re: Trying to install to new drive, but drive caddy torked

2013-12-24 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 24, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

> Can't get the screws loose on the drive caddy (lenovo e120x)! Someone really 
> torked them tight or glued them in.  :(
> 
> $9.9 to buy one used from someone that either figured out how to loosen the 
> screws or has the right tools.
> 
> Venting here.

If the head has been stripped, the driver is wrong sized for the screw. An 
exactly right sized driver with moderate pressure will unstick a tight screw so 
long as it isn't actually glued. And in that case with even more pressure it 
should still crack the glue with less than Herculean effort.

If the screw head is stripped and sticks out a bit you can use a small file to 
create a couple notches top and bottom of the screw then use needle nose pliers 
to unscrew it. Or you'll have to drill it out.

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Re: F20: yum update does not automatically update grub2

2013-12-24 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 09:04:27 -0700 Chris Murphy
 wrote:

> 
> On Dec 24, 2013, at 2:12 AM, Michael Schwendt  wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 19:25:49 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > 
> >> ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
> >> menuentry 'Fedora, with Linux 3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64' --class fedora
> >> --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option
> >> 'gnulinux-3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64-advanced-f96397ae-311d-4826-8fb0-6a0fe710dd9c'
> >>  { load_video
> >> set gfxpayload=keep insmod gzio
> >>insmod part_msdos
> >>insmod ext2
> >>set root='hd0,msdos1'
> >>if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
> >>  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root
> >> --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1
> >> --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1 --hint='hd0,msdos1'
> >> 54f94607-a593-4d5c-b03a-356574992f4e else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid
> >> --set=root 54f94607-a593-4d5c-b03a-356574992f4e fi
> >> linux  /vmlinuz-3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64 resume=/dev/sda2
> >> root=/dev/sda3 ro vconsole.font=latarcyrheb-sun16  nomodeset rhgb
> >> quiet } 
> > 
> > There is no "initrd" parameter for this first boot entry!
> > What are the contents of the /boot directory?
> 
> Right, so how is this computer even bootable? These kernels, without an 
> initramfs, will face plant on boot.
> 
> I've found that anaconda sometimes issues grub2-mkconfig before the initramfs 
> is built, but it got fixed later once new-kernel-pkg called grubby. Yet 
> grubby is failing on this computer, which might be why this entry was never 
> fixed.
> 
> The one other time I've seen this behavior, with a missing initrd entry, and 
> grubby's failure to "fix" it, was when I placed /boot on Btrfs (as its own 
> subvolume). This confuses grubby. But I'm not seeing an insmod btrfs in this 
> grub.cfg. And I'm not seeing that this computer has UEFI firmware or it would 
> have an insmod part_gpt.
> 
> So I'd like to see the output from:
> 
> grub2-install --debug /dev/sda

Uploading (452.3KiB)...
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> bash -x grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

Uploading (8.6KiB)...
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> /boot/grub2/grub.cfg  #from the above command

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Thanks again, for all the help!
Ranjan


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Re: fedup and selinux

2013-12-24 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 24, 2013, at 2:42 AM, Bill Murray  wrote:

>  Dear all,
>I had trouble persuading 'fedup --network 20' to run on my f19 laptop.  It 
> install all the files and gets ready. Then it boots and gets as far as:
> 
> [ OK ] Started trigger flushing of journal to persistent storage
> [ OK ] Started Forward Password Requests to Plymouth
> [ OK ] Started Forward Password Requests to Plymouth
> [ OK] Started Recreate Volatile files and Directories
> There are then 3 lines of selinux permission denied. But no problem, selinux 
> is set permissive anyway.
> 
> Earlier on I see 'dracut-initqueue[400] failed to issue method call: Access 
> denied'
> 
> However, when I add selinux=0 to the command line..installation proceeds.
> This is very odd - selinux was in permissive mode.
> 
>  This is a bug I think?

On a test VM with dracut and systemd debugging enabled (so it's slow):

[5.094179] type=1404 audit(1387844762.554:2): enforcing=1 old_enforcing=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295

The upgrade environment comes up in enforcing mode.

[   37.388496] upgrade[665]: /bin/upgra[   37.427863] type=1404 
audit(1387844794.861:9): enforcing=0 old_enforcing=1 auid=4294967295 
ses=4294967295
de@18(setstate): UPGRADE_STATE=running

Then goes to permissive mode. For fully 32 seconds it is in enforcing mode. And 
I see quite a few dracut-initqueue process entries at 15 seconds through 21 
seconds. So all the preliminary setup logic before the upgrade runs, happens 
with enforcing enabled.

It's not so good to use selinux=0 because it totally disables selinux and all 
the labels on files will be unset. You should instead use enforcing=0 which 
allows selinux to correctly label the system, while not enforcing policy. So I 
suggest that now that your system is upgraded to Fedora 20, assuming you leave 
selinux running in enforcing mode on this system, that you relabel it with:
restorecon -R -v /

As for whose bug this is, it could be mislabeling from the F19 system. But now 
that the system is upgraded it's difficult to reproduce to file a bug. I first 
would have tried a relabel from within Fedora 19: restorecon -R -v /

and then tried the update without changing the selinux behavior. If it still 
failed, then I'd do: ausearch -m AVC

to see exactly what's being denied and file a bug against it, or maybe against 
selinux-policy if the request is reasonable and the denial isn't. And then I'd 
rerun the upgrade with enforcing=0 as a work around.


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Re: Linux hardening with Lynis

2013-12-24 Thread bruce
Hey.

Looked over your link/app. how is this any different from
rkhunter/chkrootkit or any of the other apps that inspect files for
changes to indicate a potential root/virus issue?

Does anyone know of an app/process that can prevent a rootkit/virus
from modifying files, as opposed to simply detecting when/if a file
has been modified?

Thanks



On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:39 AM, M. Boelen  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I saw your post regarding guidance to harden/secure a Linux system [1].
> Did you already try my open source tool Lynis?
>
> http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/lynis.html
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Michael
>
>
> [1]
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-December/443516.html
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Re: F20: yum update does not automatically update grub2

2013-12-24 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 24, 2013, at 2:12 AM, Michael Schwendt  wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 19:25:49 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> 
>> ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
>> menuentry 'Fedora, with Linux 3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64' --class fedora
>> --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option
>> 'gnulinux-3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64-advanced-f96397ae-311d-4826-8fb0-6a0fe710dd9c'
>>  { load_video
>> set gfxpayload=keep insmod gzio
>>  insmod part_msdos
>>  insmod ext2
>>  set root='hd0,msdos1'
>>  if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
>>search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root
>> --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1
>> --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1 --hint='hd0,msdos1'
>> 54f94607-a593-4d5c-b03a-356574992f4e else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid
>> --set=root 54f94607-a593-4d5c-b03a-356574992f4e fi
>> linux/vmlinuz-3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64 resume=/dev/sda2
>> root=/dev/sda3 ro vconsole.font=latarcyrheb-sun16  nomodeset rhgb
>> quiet } 
> 
> There is no "initrd" parameter for this first boot entry!
> What are the contents of the /boot directory?

Right, so how is this computer even bootable? These kernels, without an 
initramfs, will face plant on boot.

I've found that anaconda sometimes issues grub2-mkconfig before the initramfs 
is built, but it got fixed later once new-kernel-pkg called grubby. Yet grubby 
is failing on this computer, which might be why this entry was never fixed.

The one other time I've seen this behavior, with a missing initrd entry, and 
grubby's failure to "fix" it, was when I placed /boot on Btrfs (as its own 
subvolume). This confuses grubby. But I'm not seeing an insmod btrfs in this 
grub.cfg. And I'm not seeing that this computer has UEFI firmware or it would 
have an insmod part_gpt.

So I'd like to see the output from:

grub2-install --debug /dev/sda
bash -x grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
/boot/grub2/grub.cfg  #from the above command


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Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM

2013-12-24 Thread Greg Woods
On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 14:40 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 12/24/13 14:06, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > I guess I'd be interested in the output of
> >
> > cat /proc/cpuinfo

8 repetitions of:


> processor   : 7
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 60
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
stepping: 3
microcode   : 0x16
cpu MHz : 800.000
cache size  : 8192 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 8
core id : 3
cpu cores   : 4
apicid  : 7
initial apicid  : 7
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe
syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good
nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64
monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2
movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm
ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept
vpid fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid
bogomips: 6995.85
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 39 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

> And maybe
> 
> lshw -C processor | grep width
> lscpu | grep "CPU op-mode"


[root@mongoliad mythtv]# lshw -C processor | grep width
   width: 64 bits
[root@mongoliad mythtv]# lscpu | grep "CPU op-mode"
CPU op-mode(s):32-bit, 64-bit

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Trying to install to new drive, but drive caddy torked

2013-12-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Can't get the screws loose on the drive caddy (lenovo e120x)! Someone 
really torked them tight or glued them in.  :(


$9.9 to buy one used from someone that either figured out how to loosen 
the screws or has the right tools.


Venting here.

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Re: Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?

2013-12-24 Thread Leonid Flaks

On 12/24/2013 05:19 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 12/24/13 17:21, Tom H wrote:

On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Ed Greshko  wrote:

After making the suggested changes.

[root@meimei ~]# mount -o ro,nfsvers=4 192.168.0.196:/home /mnt
[root@meimei ~]# mount | grep mnt
192.168.0.196:/home on /mnt type nfs4 
(ro,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=262144,wsize=262144,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,port=0,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=192.168.0.18,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.0.196)
[root@meimei ~]# umount /mnt

[root@meimei ~]# mount -o ro,nfsvers=3 192.168.0.196:/home /mnt
mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported

I tried disallowing v2 and v3 on Fedora 19 and failed.

"cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions" shows that v2 and v3 are allowed by the
kernel and "mount -t -o nfsvers=3 ..." succeeds.

I ssh'd into a RHEL 6 box and an Ubuntu 14.04 VM where I know that v2
and v3 are disabled.

"cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions" shows that v2 and v3 are disallowed and
"mount -t -o nfsvers=3 ..." fails.

I must've done something wrong on Fedora 19. I'll have to try again
later, but I can't see anything wrong in my setup offhand.

On an F20 system where I'm doing the testing

root@f20f ~]# cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions
-2 -3 +4 +4.1 -4.2

Shows only 4 and 4.1 allowed.

I suppose I could try it on F19 for you at some point.



Did you look into /etc/nfsmount.conf file? It has lots of useful hints 
in comments and seems to be able to control NFS versions at 3 levels - 
per mount point, per server and globally. It is done on the client end.


Cheers,

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Re: x2go fedora howto

2013-12-24 Thread Neal Becker
Neal Becker wrote:

> I'm trying to test x2go on f20, but doc is very thin.
> 
> I installed x2goserver on server, and x2goclient on client.  When I try to
> create a session, I just get a textbox with this message:
> 
> 
> The host key for this server was not found but an othertype of key exists.An
> attacker might change the default server key toconfuse your client into
> thinking the key does not exist
> 
> I then read that freenx-server was needed, so I installed that on the server.
> 
> I did not configure any packages on the server (is any config needed?)
> 

I found the problem:
http://john.wesorick.com/2011/11/issues-installing-x2go.html

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x2go fedora howto

2013-12-24 Thread Neal Becker
I'm trying to test x2go on f20, but doc is very thin.

I installed x2goserver on server, and x2goclient on client.  When I try to 
create a session, I just get a textbox with this message:


The host key for this server was not found but an othertype of key exists.An 
attacker might change the default server key toconfuse your client into 
thinking 
the key does not exist

I then read that freenx-server was needed, so I installed that on the server.

I did not configure any packages on the server (is any config needed?)

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Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?

2013-12-24 Thread Robert P. J. Day

Quoting Ed Greshko :


On 12/24/13 21:24, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

  just to explain where this all came from, i was working off of what
i was seeing on a RHEL (actually CentOS) 6.5 system, where the config
file /etc/sysconfig/nfs had helpful comments which allowed me to
tweak that file thusly:

# Define which protocol versions mountd
# will advertise. The values are "no" or "yes"
# with yes being the default
MOUNTD_NFS_V2="no"
MOUNTD_NFS_V3="no"
... snip ...
# Optional arguments passed to rpc.nfsd. See rpc.nfsd(8)
# Turn off v2 and v3 protocol support
RPCNFSDARGS="-N 2 -N 3"

  if i make the above changes and restart NFS (on the RHEL system),
the *only* NFS-related entries i see in the output of "rpcinfo -p" are:

134   tcp   2049  nfs
134   udp   2049  nfs

and that's *it*, nothing more, which is what i expected.

  sadly, i don't have access to my fedora 20 box at the moment,
but all i was doing was trying to produce the same result --
only those two lines in the output of "rpcinfo -p". i can see
that the *effect* of the earlier suggestions is the same, in
that only NFSv4 is supported, but there is still that crud in
the output of "rpcinfo -p" that seems irrelevant.

  oh, and on the RHEL 6.5 system, the contents of the file
/proc/fs/nfsd/versions correctly contains:

-2 -3 +4 -4.1


OK.

In any event, I think the original question has been answered.  Yes,  
you can configure nfs on Fedora to allow only NFSv4.   Agreed?


  yup, agreed.

rday



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Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?

2013-12-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/24/13 21:24, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>   just to explain where this all came from, i was working off of what
> i was seeing on a RHEL (actually CentOS) 6.5 system, where the config
> file /etc/sysconfig/nfs had helpful comments which allowed me to
> tweak that file thusly:
>
> # Define which protocol versions mountd
> # will advertise. The values are "no" or "yes"
> # with yes being the default
> MOUNTD_NFS_V2="no"
> MOUNTD_NFS_V3="no"
> ... snip ...
> # Optional arguments passed to rpc.nfsd. See rpc.nfsd(8)
> # Turn off v2 and v3 protocol support
> RPCNFSDARGS="-N 2 -N 3"
>
>   if i make the above changes and restart NFS (on the RHEL system),
> the *only* NFS-related entries i see in the output of "rpcinfo -p" are:
>
> 134   tcp   2049  nfs
> 134   udp   2049  nfs
>
> and that's *it*, nothing more, which is what i expected.
>
>   sadly, i don't have access to my fedora 20 box at the moment,
> but all i was doing was trying to produce the same result --
> only those two lines in the output of "rpcinfo -p". i can see
> that the *effect* of the earlier suggestions is the same, in
> that only NFSv4 is supported, but there is still that crud in
> the output of "rpcinfo -p" that seems irrelevant.
>
>   oh, and on the RHEL 6.5 system, the contents of the file
> /proc/fs/nfsd/versions correctly contains:
>
> -2 -3 +4 -4.1 

OK.

In any event, I think the original question has been answered.  Yes, you can 
configure nfs on Fedora to allow only NFSv4.   Agreed?

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Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?

2013-12-24 Thread Robert P. J. Day

Quoting Ed Greshko :


On 12/24/13 17:21, Tom H wrote:

On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Ed Greshko  wrote:


After making the suggested changes.

[root@meimei ~]# mount -o ro,nfsvers=4 192.168.0.196:/home /mnt
[root@meimei ~]# mount | grep mnt
192.168.0.196:/home on /mnt type nfs4  
(ro,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=262144,wsize=262144,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,port=0,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=192.168.0.18,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.0.196)

[root@meimei ~]# umount /mnt

[root@meimei ~]# mount -o ro,nfsvers=3 192.168.0.196:/home /mnt
mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported

I tried disallowing v2 and v3 on Fedora 19 and failed.

"cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions" shows that v2 and v3 are allowed by the
kernel and "mount -t -o nfsvers=3 ..." succeeds.

I ssh'd into a RHEL 6 box and an Ubuntu 14.04 VM where I know that v2
and v3 are disabled.

"cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions" shows that v2 and v3 are disallowed and
"mount -t -o nfsvers=3 ..." fails.

I must've done something wrong on Fedora 19. I'll have to try again
later, but I can't see anything wrong in my setup offhand.


On an F20 system where I'm doing the testing

root@f20f ~]# cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions
-2 -3 +4 +4.1 -4.2

Shows only 4 and 4.1 allowed.


  just to explain where this all came from, i was working off of what
i was seeing on a RHEL (actually CentOS) 6.5 system, where the config
file /etc/sysconfig/nfs had helpful comments which allowed me to
tweak that file thusly:

# Define which protocol versions mountd
# will advertise. The values are "no" or "yes"
# with yes being the default
MOUNTD_NFS_V2="no"
MOUNTD_NFS_V3="no"
... snip ...
# Optional arguments passed to rpc.nfsd. See rpc.nfsd(8)
# Turn off v2 and v3 protocol support
RPCNFSDARGS="-N 2 -N 3"

  if i make the above changes and restart NFS (on the RHEL system),
the *only* NFS-related entries i see in the output of "rpcinfo -p" are:

134   tcp   2049  nfs
134   udp   2049  nfs

and that's *it*, nothing more, which is what i expected.

  sadly, i don't have access to my fedora 20 box at the moment,
but all i was doing was trying to produce the same result --
only those two lines in the output of "rpcinfo -p". i can see
that the *effect* of the earlier suggestions is the same, in
that only NFSv4 is supported, but there is still that crud in
the output of "rpcinfo -p" that seems irrelevant.

  oh, and on the RHEL 6.5 system, the contents of the file
/proc/fs/nfsd/versions correctly contains:

-2 -3 +4 -4.1

rday


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Re: Possibly OT --- Adobe flash player; how to get it to run?

2013-12-24 Thread Steve Underwood

On 12/24/2013 04:58 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:

On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 21:56:22 +1300
Rolf Turner  wrote:


People keep sending me links to videos and then when I click on
them Firefox says that the video won't play since I don't have
flash installed. But then when I click on the installer I
(eventually) get messages to the effect that the required package
is already installed.



Adobe have stopped updating flash for Linux.
Yes and no. They have stopped enhancing it, but they are still bug 
fixing, especially for security issues. The latest update RPM on my 
Fedora 19 boxes is less than a month old.


That said, flash is on its way out. If you consider they have withdrawn 
flash from the largest single media platform on the planet - Android - 
its obviously going through a near death experience. Its just a pity so 
many web site are super slow at reworking their platform to feed us 
video in other ways.


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Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?

2013-12-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/24/13 17:21, Tom H wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>>
>> After making the suggested changes.
>>
>> [root@meimei ~]# mount -o ro,nfsvers=4 192.168.0.196:/home /mnt
>> [root@meimei ~]# mount | grep mnt
>> 192.168.0.196:/home on /mnt type nfs4 
>> (ro,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=262144,wsize=262144,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,port=0,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=192.168.0.18,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.0.196)
>> [root@meimei ~]# umount /mnt
>>
>> [root@meimei ~]# mount -o ro,nfsvers=3 192.168.0.196:/home /mnt
>> mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported
> I tried disallowing v2 and v3 on Fedora 19 and failed.
>
> "cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions" shows that v2 and v3 are allowed by the
> kernel and "mount -t -o nfsvers=3 ..." succeeds.
>
> I ssh'd into a RHEL 6 box and an Ubuntu 14.04 VM where I know that v2
> and v3 are disabled.
>
> "cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions" shows that v2 and v3 are disallowed and
> "mount -t -o nfsvers=3 ..." fails.
>
> I must've done something wrong on Fedora 19. I'll have to try again
> later, but I can't see anything wrong in my setup offhand.

On an F20 system where I'm doing the testing

root@f20f ~]# cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions
-2 -3 +4 +4.1 -4.2

Shows only 4 and 4.1 allowed.

I suppose I could try it on F19 for you at some point.



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fedup and selinux

2013-12-24 Thread Bill Murray

  Dear all,
I had trouble persuading 'fedup --network 20' to run on my f19 
laptop.  It install all the files and gets ready. Then it boots and gets 
as far as:


[ OK ] Started trigger flushing of journal to persistent storage
[ OK ] Started Forward Password Requests to Plymouth
[ OK ] Started Forward Password Requests to Plymouth
[ OK] Started Recreate Volatile files and Directories
There are then 3 lines of selinux permission denied. But no problem, 
selinux is set permissive anyway.


Earlier on I see 'dracut-initqueue[400] failed to issue method call: 
Access denied'


However, when I add selinux=0 to the command line..installation proceeds.
This is very odd - selinux was in permissive mode.

  This is a bug I think?
Bill





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Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?

2013-12-24 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 12/24/13 09:12, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
> After making the suggested changes.
>
> [root@meimei ~]# mount -o ro,nfsvers=4 192.168.0.196:/home /mnt
> [root@meimei ~]# mount | grep mnt
> 192.168.0.196:/home on /mnt type nfs4 
> (ro,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=262144,wsize=262144,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,port=0,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=192.168.0.18,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.0.196)
> [root@meimei ~]# umount /mnt
>
> [root@meimei ~]# mount -o ro,nfsvers=3 192.168.0.196:/home /mnt
> mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported

I tried disallowing v2 and v3 on Fedora 19 and failed.

"cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions" shows that v2 and v3 are allowed by the
kernel and "mount -t -o nfsvers=3 ..." succeeds.

I ssh'd into a RHEL 6 box and an Ubuntu 14.04 VM where I know that v2
and v3 are disabled.

"cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions" shows that v2 and v3 are disallowed and
"mount -t -o nfsvers=3 ..." fails.

I must've done something wrong on Fedora 19. I'll have to try again
later, but I can't see anything wrong in my setup offhand.
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Re: Possibly OT --- Adobe flash player; how to get it to run?

2013-12-24 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 21:56 +1300, Rolf Turner wrote:
[Looking for Flash Player] 
> 
> Grateful for any suggestions and/or advice.

Googling didn't turn this up?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash


> 
>  cheers,
> 
>  Rolf Turner
> 
> 

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Re: F20: yum update does not automatically update grub2

2013-12-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 19:25:49 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

> ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
> menuentry 'Fedora, with Linux 3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64' --class fedora
> --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option
> 'gnulinux-3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64-advanced-f96397ae-311d-4826-8fb0-6a0fe710dd9c'
>  { load_video
> set gfxpayload=keep insmod gzio
>   insmod part_msdos
>   insmod ext2
>   set root='hd0,msdos1'
>   if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
> search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root
> --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1
> --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1 --hint='hd0,msdos1'
> 54f94607-a593-4d5c-b03a-356574992f4e else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid
> --set=root 54f94607-a593-4d5c-b03a-356574992f4e fi
> linux /vmlinuz-3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64 resume=/dev/sda2
> root=/dev/sda3 ro vconsole.font=latarcyrheb-sun16  nomodeset rhgb
> quiet } 

There is no "initrd" parameter for this first boot entry!
What are the contents of the /boot directory?

If the initramfs image file for this kernel is missing, it's no surprise that
grubby doesn't recognise this boot menu entry. The image may be regenerated
using "dracut" (see "man dracut").

That it refers to the root device with UUID and /dev/sda3 is strange, too.
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Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?

2013-12-24 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>
> Port 2049 is used by V4.  I don't think V3 or V2 uses it

2049 is the nfs port for all nfs versions.

"grep nfs /etc/services"
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Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?

2013-12-24 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Robert P. J. Day
 wrote:
> Quoting Ed Greshko :
>>
>> In /etc/sysconfig/nfs
>>
>> # Optional arguments passed to rpc.nfsd. See rpc.nfsd(8)
>> RPCNFSDARGS=""
>>
>> man 8 rpc.nfsd
>>
>>   -N  or  --no-nfs-version vers
>>   This option can be used to request that rpc.nfsd does  not
>> offer
>>   certain versions of NFS. The current version of rpc.nfsd can
>> sup‐
>>   port NFS versions 2,3,4 and the newer version 4.1.
>
> i tried that and it didn't seem to work, in the sense that when i
> ran "rpcinfo -p" to verify the result, here's part of the output:
>
> 133   tcp   2049  nfs
> 1002273   tcp   2049  nfs_acl
> 133   udp   2049  nfs
> 1002273   udp   2049  nfs_acl
> 134   tcp   2049  nfs
> 134   udp   2049  nfs
>
> so isn't that telling me i still have both versions 3 and 4? here's
> the line i added to the file:
>
> RPCNFSDARGS="-N 2 -N 3"

1) Try "mount -t nfs -o nfsvers=3 ..."

2) cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions
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Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?

2013-12-24 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Robert P. J. Day
 wrote:
>
> how does one configure fedora 20 to support only NFSv4? i'm used to
> mucking with /etc/sysconfig/nfs in earlier versions of RH, and tweaking
> the variables MOUNTD_NFS_V* and RPCNFSDARGS. i don't see those vars
> in fedora 20 and, according to "rpcinfo -p", i'm currently supporting
> NFS versions both 3 and 4. so how does one turn off NFSv3? thanks.

RPCNFSDARGS="-N 2 -N3"
or
RPCNFSDARGS="--no-nfs-version 2 --no-nfs-version 3"
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Re: Possibly OT --- Adobe flash player; how to get it to run?

2013-12-24 Thread Rolf Turner

On 24/12/13 21:58, Frank Murphy wrote:

On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 21:56:22 +1300
Rolf Turner  wrote:


People keep sending me links to videos and then when I click on
them Firefox says that the video won't play since I don't have
flash installed. But then when I click on the installer I
(eventually) get messages to the effect that the required package
is already installed.



Adobe have stopped updating flash for Linux.


So is there anything that I can do so as to be able to watch such videos?

cheers,

Rolf Turner

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Re: can you (theoretically) run only NFSv4 (without earlier versions)?

2013-12-24 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Robert P. J. Day  wrote:
> Quoting Tom H :
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Robert P. J. Day 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> a long, long time ago, i reported an apparent glitch with NFS on
>>> fedora:
>>>
>>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-January/097465.html
>>>
>>> in that, at the time, it *appeared* that you couldn't set up
>>> NFS so that *only* version 4 was running. before i start messing
>>> with this again, anyone know whether that's changed? that is,
>>> is it possible to set up a network in which only NFSv4 is running,
>>> and no earlier versions are supported? thanks.
>>
>> It's been possible to run nfsv4-only nfs for a long time, with only
>> port 2049 being let through the firewall. It only appears that you
>> can't because because rpc.mountd has to run on the server but it's
>> only involved in the exporting and not the mounting.
>
> a followup question, then -- i'm reading the RHEL docs (but i imagine
> the contents are applicable here as long as we're talking about NFSv4);
> the section on NFS reads:
>
> "The mounting and locking protocols have been incorporated into the NFSv4
> protocol. The server also listens on the well-known TCP port 2049. As such,
> NFSv4 does not need to interact with rpcbind [3], lockd, and rpc.statd
> daemons."
>
> does that mean that if i configure my system(s) to run NFSv4 only,
> those daemons no longer need to be run? better yet, if i configure
> for NFSv4 *only*, will those daemons even be started? i guess i could
> peruse /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs to find out.

1) NFSv3

a) set up versions of nfsd, rpc.mountd in "/etc/sysconfig/nfs"

b) set up fixed ports for rpc.lockd, rpc.mountd, rpc.statd, rpc.quotad
in "/etc/sysconfig/nfs"

c) set up firewall rules to allow rpcbind, nfsd, rpc.lockd,
rpc.mountd, rpc.statd, rpc.quotad in "/etc/sysconfig/iptables"

1) NFSv4

a) set up versions of nfsd, rpc.mountd in "/etc/sysconfig/nfs"

b) set up firewall rule to allow nfsd in "/etc/sysconfig/iptables"
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Re: Possibly OT --- Adobe flash player; how to get it to run?

2013-12-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 21:56:22 +1300
Rolf Turner  wrote:

> 
> People keep sending me links to videos and then when I click on
> them Firefox says that the video won't play since I don't have
> flash installed. But then when I click on the installer I
> (eventually) get messages to the effect that the required package
> is already installed.
> 
>
Adobe have stopped updating flash for Linux.


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Possibly OT --- Adobe flash player; how to get it to run?

2013-12-24 Thread Rolf Turner


People keep sending me links to videos and then when I click on them 
Firefox says
that the video won't play since I don't have flash installed. But then 
when I click
on the installer I (eventually) get messages to the effect that the 
required package

is already installed.

If I click on Tools -> Addons -> Plugins I get messages to the effect 
that I don't
"have any plugins of this type installed".  (***WHAT*** deleted> type?

I never mentioned any "type"!!!

I've googled around quite a bit and any suggestion that I've found was 
of no use
whatever.  (I.e. I keep getting the same message that I don't have flash 
installed.)


WTF do I have to do?  Is the problem the fact that I am still running 
Fedora 17?
(I have not upgraded since everything except the flash business seems to 
be running
smoothly, and I don't want to get into an incomprehensible upgrade 
hassle unless

I absolutely have to.)

Grateful for any suggestions and/or advice.

cheers,

Rolf Turner

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