Re: [389-users] Fwd: I'm about to start coding a plugin for Heimdal Kerberos V and have a question

2014-02-26 Thread Paul Robert Marino
sorry for the delayed response I'm on vacation so I haven't been
checking my email regularly.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 02/20/2014 03:11 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:

 I tried asking this on the developer list and didn't get an answer


 There is no good answer, which is probably why no one replied . . .


 so
 im trying the user list now

 So here is my goal I am about to write a plugin for Heimdal KDC's to
 update matching password fields in LDAP servers.
 In the case of 389 server it will also allow 389 server to manage
 password quality checks.

 Ive been looking over the 389 servers docs and there is something I'm
 unclear about.
 How do I pass the password to 389 server to trigger the quality check
 and update?


 There isn't a SLAPI way to do that.  FreeIPA did something similar with
 their samba/kerberos password plugin, and they copy/pasted liberally from
 the core 389 server code.

It doesn't need to be via SLAPI in fact for compatibility reasons its
actually better if its not via SLAPI but instead a direct LDAP query.
If it is as you say than I dont see how a user updating their pasword
from a client node can ever be forced to use the password quality
check which seam to make it somewhat useless. Instead I would have
expected the check to be executed by a post modify trigger on the
password field or some other intermediate field.


 Is it simply just a bind as an administrator then update the users
 password field with clear text password and let 389 server check and
 hash it from there, or is there more to it like a C API call?

 If any one can point me to the appropriate doc or even better section
 of the appropriate doc that would be very helpful.
 If any one just happens to knows the answer I would appreciate that too.

 Note: The resulting plugin will be posted on Github with a GPL license
 when I'm done.

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Re: AM/PM in Thunderbird -

2014-02-26 Thread g



On 02/25/14 20:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Joachim Backes
joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote:

That will have absolutely no effect on any currently running program,
including the desktop you're working in. Processes inherit external
variables from the process that executed them, so only those which are
run from the new shell you just entered are going to see the change.
You could of course visit every other running Shell and source
~/.bashrc, but that will still not affect apps run from the GUI.

IOW, yes you have to log out and in again.


Not necessarily!

1) Finish thunderbird
2) Until the next logout:  . ~/.bashrc;thunderbird

No logout needed :-)


This is consistent with what I said. You're executing a new instance
of TB from the Shell you modified with new external variables.

You could also do:

VARIABLE1=value1 VARIABLE2=value2 ... thunderbird

without having to invoke a new Shell. Same effect.

poc


ok, all.

now that the s/n has dropped, and i have finished playing with
'.bashrc', 'alias', and a script file, i submit the following.


the command that i suggested is what i use when i am in 'init
level 1' to reactivate .bashrc. i also use it in 'level 3',
and 'level 5'.

when i am at either of those levels and i open a new terminal, if
i have made a change to .bashrc, changes are present, just like
they are if i open a new terminal in 'level 3' or in 'level 5'.
[i am not dropping down to 'level 1' just to test.]

what i did do, while at 'level 5', is i edited .bashrc to add
a couple of 'alias' lines, and wrote a script file for alias files.

while using kde, i ran test of following and it all works as noted
below.

i keep 6 terminals running in kde, i do not close them when i
end kde.

in each of the terminals, i have at least 2 tabs open. in each
terminal, when in right most tab, everything works fine. for some
reason, that i did not bother to figure out why, it does not work
in other tabs.

if i open a new terminal after reactivating '.bashrc' the additions
are active.

no logout and login is needed.


++
addition to my ~/.bashrc:

## reactivate ~/.bashrc - test for new alias
alias nbrc='. ~/.bashrc'
alias tst='echo this is a test'

++

script file - 'nbrc':

#!/bin/sh
##   fn=nbrc  vr= -0001
##  use=reactivate .bashrc - test for new alias
. ~/.bashrc
echo ~/.bashrc reactivated
echo
alias|sort
echo

++

enjoy. ;-)

later. i am pulling the plugs and crashing.

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Re: Fedora ARM is so strong

2014-02-26 Thread poma
On 26.02.2014 08:50, Jan Kaluža wrote:
 On 02/26/2014 03:08 AM, poma wrote:
 On 24.02.2014 23:52, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 02/25/14 01:02, poma wrote:
 $ file *
 autocorr-en-4.2.1.1-1.fc20.noarch.rpm:  RPM v3.0 bin ARM
 autocorr-en-1:4.2.1.1-1.fc20
 libcmis-0.4.1-2.fc20.x86_64.rpm:RPM v3.0 bin
 i386/x86_64 libcmis-0.4.1-2.fc20
 libreoffice-4.2.1.1-1.fc20.x86_64.rpm:  RPM v3.0 bin
 i386/x86_64 libreoffice-1:4.2.1.1-1.fc20
 libreoffice-appdata-4.2.1.1-1.fc20.noarch.rpm:  RPM v3.0 bin ARM
 libreoffice-appdata-1:4.2.1.1-1.fc20

 Has anyone noticed something oddly in this list? :)

 
 Hi,
 
 I have asked RPM maintainer and the problem is that File uses deprecated 
 header section of RPM files to get the data. This section should still 
 work, but since nothing except File uses it, it's not tested well and 
 does not contain proper data everytime.
 
 I have filled bug [1] against File to add support for currently 
 officially supported RPM header. I will try to fix that bug when I get 
 some free time and send it upstream. You can just add yourself to the 
 bug if you are interested in future progress.
 
 [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1070060
 
 Regards,
 Jan Kaluza

Thanks.


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Re: Fedora ARM is gone

2014-02-26 Thread poma

To correct the 'file' output, instead
$ file -b *
RPM v3.0 bin noarch kdenetwork-devel-7:4.12.2-1.fc20
RPM v3.0 bin ARM mdds-devel-0.10.2-1.fc20

we can drive something like this,
$ rpm -qp --qf RPM v%{RPMVERSION} %{ARCH}\
%{NAME}-%{VERSION}.%{RELEASE}\n *
RPM v4.11.1 noarch kdenetwork-devel-4.12.2.1.fc20
RPM v4.11.2 noarch mdds-devel-0.10.2.1.fc20


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Re: AM/PM in Thunderbird -

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan

On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 14:07 +0600, g wrote:
 
 On 02/25/14 20:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Joachim Backes
  joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote:
  That will have absolutely no effect on any currently running program,
  including the desktop you're working in. Processes inherit external
  variables from the process that executed them, so only those which are
  run from the new shell you just entered are going to see the change.
  You could of course visit every other running Shell and source
  ~/.bashrc, but that will still not affect apps run from the GUI.
 
  IOW, yes you have to log out and in again.
 
  Not necessarily!
 
  1) Finish thunderbird
  2) Until the next logout:  . ~/.bashrc;thunderbird
 
  No logout needed :-)
 
  This is consistent with what I said. You're executing a new instance
  of TB from the Shell you modified with new external variables.
 
  You could also do:
 
  VARIABLE1=value1 VARIABLE2=value2 ... thunderbird
 
  without having to invoke a new Shell. Same effect.
 
  poc
 
 ok, all.

I've a feeling we're talking at cross purposes, but here goes:

 now that the s/n has dropped, and i have finished playing with
 '.bashrc', 'alias', and a script file, i submit the following.

Don't know what s/n means, but never mind.

 the command that i suggested is what i use when i am in 'init
 level 1' to reactivate .bashrc. i also use it in 'level 3',
 and 'level 5'.

Irrelevant. When a process changes an environment variable and exports
it, it means it's inherited by all descendants of that process. The
various Shells provide a handy syntax for this, but the principle
applies to all processes including init.

 when i am at either of those levels and i open a new terminal, if
 i have made a change to .bashrc, changes are present, just like
 they are if i open a new terminal in 'level 3' or in 'level 5'.
 [i am not dropping down to 'level 1' just to test.]

Of course, see above.

 what i did do, while at 'level 5', is i edited .bashrc to add
 a couple of 'alias' lines, and wrote a script file for alias files.
 
 while using kde, i ran test of following and it all works as noted
 below.
 
 i keep 6 terminals running in kde, i do not close them when i
 end kde.

What do you mean you don't close them? KDE closes them when you
terminate the session. You'd have to take special measures to prevent
this and I'm not sure it's even possible to do in a sensible way (i.e.
retaining some way to access the terminal after KDE closes).

 in each of the terminals, i have at least 2 tabs open. in each
 terminal, when in right most tab, everything works fine. for some
 reason, that i did not bother to figure out why, it does not work
 in other tabs.

Can't think of a reason for that offhand, other than some kind of script
bug. Each terminal consists of one konsole process and one or more
Shells (one per tab).

 if i open a new terminal after reactivating '.bashrc' the additions
 are active.

Obviously, see above (again).

 no logout and login is needed.

To be more precise: if you run KDE from a desktop manager (KDM, GDM,
whatever) then terminating KDE logs you out. If you run KDE by first
logging into a terminal and executing startkde then yes, you can
terminate the KDE session, fiddle with Shell variables, then run another
KDE session, so strictly speaking you haven't logged out and the new KDE
session will see the altered environment. However any terminals that
were running *within* the KDE session have been terminated and have to
be re-executed (with the now current environment) when you re-enter KDE.

poc


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Re: AM/PM in Thunderbird -

2014-02-26 Thread poma
On 24.02.2014 13:43, Bob Goodwin wrote:
 
 For a long time I have been doing:
 
 /etc/locale.confchange:LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 
 LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
 
 To make Thunderbird list messages with 24 hour time.
 
 Can someone suggest a better way to accomplish this?
 
 Bob
 

/usr/bin/thunderbird24h:
#!/bin/sh
LC_TIME=C
export LC_TIME
/usr/bin/thunderbird


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Re: AM/PM in Thunderbird -

2014-02-26 Thread g


hello poco,

On 02/26/14 16:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 14:07 +0600, g wrote:





ok, all.


I've a feeling we're talking at cross purposes, but here goes:


not sure what you mean by cross purposes, but, that is ok with
me. ;-)


now that the s/n has dropped, and i have finished playing with
'.bashrc', 'alias', and a script file, i submit the following.


Don't know what s/n means, but never mind.


s/n = Signal to Noise ratio.

bob know what it means. :-)


the command that i suggested is what i use when i am in 'init
level 1' to reactivate .bashrc. i also use it in 'level 3',
and 'level 5'.


Irrelevant. When a process changes an environment variable and

 exports it, it means it's inherited by all descendants of that
 process. The various Shells provide a handy syntax for this, but
 the principle applies to all processes including init.

agreed. i was just stating where i have used '. ~/.bashrc'.


when i am at either of those levels and i open a new terminal, if
i have made a change to .bashrc, changes are present, just like
they are if i open a new terminal in 'level 3' or in 'level 5'.
[i am not dropping down to 'level 1' just to test.]


Of course, see above.


agree. see above.


what i did do, while at 'level 5', is i edited .bashrc to add
a couple of 'alias' lines, and wrote a script file for alias

 files.


while using kde, i ran test of following and it all works as

 noted below.


i keep 6 terminals running in kde, i do not close them when i
end kde.


What do you mean you don't close them? KDE closes them when you
terminate the session. You'd have to take special measures to

 prevent this and I'm not sure it's even possible to do in a
 sensible way (i.e. retaining some way to access the terminal
 after KDE closes).

so that you will know, it is possible.

yes, when kde is closed, what ever was running is closed, unless
there was a 'nohup' issued.

when i _logout_ from kde desktop, to 'switch user', 'suspend to
disk', 'suspend to memory', 'restart', or 'shutdown', i do not
close out what ever i have sitting open in 'task bar'.

ie, open windows top to bottom:
 4 firefox windows and library, 6 terminals, 4 konqueror windows,
 a bash shell started from konqueror, freecell, ksnapshot, system
 monitor, 4 kwrite windows, disk utility, system settings, address
 book, thunderbird, and wireshark.

when i logout of kde for any of above reasons, i _do_not_ close any
windows. when i login to kde again, _all_ of above windows are
reopended with out my opening them again.


in each of the terminals, i have at least 2 tabs open. in each
terminal, when in right most tab, everything works fine. for some
reason, that i did not bother to figure out why, it does not work
in other tabs.


Can't think of a reason for that offhand, other than some kind of

 script bug.

'script bug'?


Each terminal consists of one konsole process and one or more
Shells (one per tab).


this is true.


if i open a new terminal after reactivating '.bashrc' the

 additions are active.


Obviously, see above (again).


agreed, see above.


no logout and login is needed.


To be more precise: if you run KDE from a desktop manager (KDM,

 GDM, whatever) then terminating KDE logs you out. If you run KDE
 by first logging into a terminal and executing startkde then yes,
 you can terminate the KDE session, fiddle with Shell variables,
 then run another KDE session, so strictly speaking you haven't
 logged out and the new KDE session will see the altered
 environment. However any terminals that were running *within* the
 KDE session have been terminated and have to be re-executed (with
 the now current environment) when you re-enter KDE.

not all true. see above.


_in_addition_:

i erred in last post;

  alias nbrc='. ~/.bashrc'

should have read,

  alias rbrc='. ~/.bashrc'

so that script 'nbrc' can be reached.

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Re: what just happened (time went backwards?)

2014-02-26 Thread lee
Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se writes:

 The syslog daemon writes whatever systemd sends to it. On one of my
 systems systemd decided to send the whole systemd journal to the
 syslog daemon, by doing so starting to write log lines from last year
 in my /var/log/messages.

What is the purpose of this log duplication?  When systemd has its own
logs, it doesn´t seem necessary to duplicate them by sending their
contents to syslogd.


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vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,

vncviewer gives me:
unable connect socket: No route to host (113) fedora

I browsed the web, and tried sevral options without succes!

Thank

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google-chrome not displaying text with selinux enforcing

2014-02-26 Thread Dale Dellutri
I've got a Fedora 20 XFCE desktop.  I installed google-chrome.
It fails to display some text on many web sites if selinux is
set to enforcing, but shows the text with selinux set to permissive.

For example, with selinux set to enforcing, my web site:
  http://www.DaleDellutri.com
only shows the icon image in the upper left corner, an empty box,
and the bluish outer color, but does not show any of the text on
the page.  If I do
  # setenforce 0
and re-start google-chrome, then the page is displayed properly.

Firefox shows the page properly no matter how selinux is set.

With selinux enforcing, when I start google-chrome from
the command line, it does not provide any error messages, and I
don't see any error messages from selinux.

Where are the selinux logs?  I've used
  # journalctl | grep -i selinux
but there are no errors or warnings.

What could cause this problem?

Do you have any suggestions for debugging?

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Mark Haney
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On 02/26/14 13:46, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 Hello,
 
 vncviewer gives me: unable connect socket: No route to host (113)
 fedora
 
 I browsed the web, and tried sevral options without succes!
 

Could you be slightly less specific?

In all honesty, what are you trying to do?  We need more detail than
what you've provided.

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RE: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Pittigher, Raymond - ES
Is the firewall running?


From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:00 PM
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: vncviewer

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On 02/26/14 13:46, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 Hello,

 vncviewer gives me: unable connect socket: No route to host (113)
 fedora

 I browsed the web, and tried sevral options without succes!


Could you be slightly less specific?

In all honesty, what are you trying to do?  We need more detail than
what you've provided.

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Re: AM/PM in Thunderbird -

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 23:45 +0600, g wrote:
  I've a feeling we're talking at cross purposes, but here goes:
 
 not sure what you mean by cross purposes, but, that is ok with
 me. ;-)
 
  now that the s/n has dropped, and i have finished playing with
  '.bashrc', 'alias', and a script file, i submit the following.
 
  Don't know what s/n means, but never mind.
 
 s/n = Signal to Noise ratio.
 
 bob know what it means. :-)

As do I, now that you've said you meant s/n ratio.

  What do you mean you don't close them? KDE closes them when you
  terminate the session. You'd have to take special measures to
   prevent this and I'm not sure it's even possible to do in a
   sensible way (i.e. retaining some way to access the terminal
   after KDE closes).
 
 so that you will know, it is possible.
 
 yes, when kde is closed, what ever was running is closed, unless
 there was a 'nohup' issued.
 
 when i _logout_ from kde desktop, to 'switch user', 'suspend to
 disk', 'suspend to memory', 'restart', or 'shutdown', i do not
 close out what ever i have sitting open in 'task bar'.

Switching user and suspending do not log out. Shutdown and restart do.

 ie, open windows top to bottom:
   4 firefox windows and library, 6 terminals, 4 konqueror windows,
   a bash shell started from konqueror, freecell, ksnapshot, system
   monitor, 4 kwrite windows, disk utility, system settings, address
   book, thunderbird, and wireshark.
 
 when i logout of kde for any of above reasons, i _do_not_ close any
 windows. when i login to kde again, _all_ of above windows are
 reopended with out my opening them again.

When you logout or restart, you are *not* continuing the same processes.
Presumably you have configured the KDE session manager to reopen the
same apps as when you left the session. These are new processes which
attempt to continue where they left off, but they are being executed
from the pristine binaries and will not conserve transitory environment
state (unless they are written to do that).

  in each of the terminals, i have at least 2 tabs open. in each
  terminal, when in right most tab, everything works fine. for some
  reason, that i did not bother to figure out why, it does not work
  in other tabs.
 
  Can't think of a reason for that offhand, other than some kind of
   script bug.
 
 'script bug'?

A bug in the .bashrc init script.
 
 To be more precise: if you run KDE from a desktop manager (KDM,
   GDM, whatever) then terminating KDE logs you out. If you run KDE
   by first logging into a terminal and executing startkde then yes,
   you can terminate the KDE session, fiddle with Shell variables,
   then run another KDE session, so strictly speaking you haven't
   logged out and the new KDE session will see the altered
   environment. However any terminals that were running *within* the
   KDE session have been terminated and have to be re-executed (with
   the now current environment) when you re-enter KDE.
 
 not all true. see above.

I disagree. I invite you to list the process IDs of the running apps in
one of your sessions, close the session without restarting the system,
start a new session, then list the PIDs again. The two lists will show
different PIDs.

poc

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RE: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre
 Subject: RE: vncviewer
 
 Is the firewall running?

Yes, but I checked public/vnc-server (and ssh)

 
 
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  vncviewer gives me: unable connect socket: No route to host (113)
  fedora
 
  I browsed the web, and tried sevral options without succes!
 
 
 Could you be slightly less specific?
 
 In all honesty, what are you trying to do? We need more detail than
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RE: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Pittigher, Raymond - ES
Turn it off and see if it works.
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 Subject: RE: vncviewer

 Is the firewall running?

Yes, but I checked public/vnc-server (and ssh)


 
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  Hello,
 
  vncviewer gives me: unable connect socket: No route to host (113)
  fedora
 
  I browsed the web, and tried sevral options without succes!
 

 Could you be slightly less specific?

 In all honesty, what are you trying to do? We need more detail than
 what you've provided.

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Mark Haney
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On 02/26/14 14:57, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 Subject: RE: vncviewer
 
 Is the firewall running?
 
 Yes, but I checked public/vnc-server (and ssh)
 
 

Since you're not really giving us much to go on, here's what I would do.

Make sure the vnc server is running on the target system.
Verify the port it's accepting connections (default is 5900 (I think))
Try to telnet to the vnc server port from the client computer (even
better, can you PING the server machine?  No route to host sounds like
a networking issue to me.)
If you can't telnet to the server port, shutdown the firewall on the
host and try again.



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Two row system tray

2014-02-26 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
My system tray used to have two rows of small icons.  Now it has one
row: items that hide themselves into the tray are small and not
resizeable (Thunderbird, Qalculate, Knemo); native widgets are large and
resizeable (Klipper, Kmix, Device Notifier, Network Management).  The
Pager and Task Manager both have two rows.

How can I force the tray to have two rows?  Is this possible?

System is Fedora-20 with all upgrades running KDE-4.12.2 .

Thanks - jon

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 26 Feb 2014 at 19:46, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Date sent:  Wed, 26 Feb 2014 19:46:59 +0100
From:   Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com
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 Hello,
 
 vncviewer gives me:
 unable connect socket: No route to host (113) fedora
 
 I browsed the web, and tried sevral options without succes!
 

It is probable a firewall issue on the machine running the server. I have 
vncserver running on my classroom machines, and just got 20 new machines 
in January, and have Fedora 20 added.

firewall-config
Which port are you running the vncserver on the machine. Are you manually 
starting it or using a script?

Note sure what the ports it selects by default. 
Would go to the zones, and you said you said you had slected it.
Then click on the Services at the top, and see what the port range is.
Is the port you are using is in that range if it is there.

In the past, I had used a fixed port, so opened it on the firewall with the 
port 
option.

I just did an iptables -L and didn't see a line that mentioned the range the 
service shows, but did see the line for the specific port that I selected, so 
you 
might need to do the port to open the firewall?

iptables -L | grep 59   (to show lines for the 5900-5999 range)





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RE: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre
 
 Turn it off and see if it works.

It does not change anything, still
unable connect to socket: No route to host (113)

ssh works fine

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  Is the firewall running?
 
 Yes, but I checked public/vnc-server (and ssh)
 
 
  
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   vncviewer gives me: unable connect socket: No route to host (113)
   fedora
  
   I browsed the web, and tried sevral options without succes!
  
 
  Could you be slightly less specific?
 
  In all honesty, what are you trying to do? We need more detail than
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Re: google-chrome not displaying text with selinux enforcing

2014-02-26 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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On 02/26/2014 02:00 PM, Dale Dellutri wrote:
 I've got a Fedora 20 XFCE desktop.  I installed google-chrome. It fails to
 display some text on many web sites if selinux is set to enforcing, but
 shows the text with selinux set to permissive.
 
 For example, with selinux set to enforcing, my web site: 
 http://www.DaleDellutri.com only shows the icon image in the upper left
 corner, an empty box, and the bluish outer color, but does not show any of
 the text on the page.  If I do # setenforce 0 and re-start google-chrome,
 then the page is displayed properly.
 
 Firefox shows the page properly no matter how selinux is set.
 
 With selinux enforcing, when I start google-chrome from the command line,
 it does not provide any error messages, and I don't see any error messages
 from selinux.
 
 Where are the selinux logs?  I've used # journalctl | grep -i selinux but
 there are no errors or warnings.
 
 What could cause this problem?
 
 Do you have any suggestions for debugging?
 
 -- Dale Dellutri
 
 
Are you seeing any AVCs?

ausearch -m avc -ts recent

You can turn off SELinux confinement of chrome sandbox, with

setsebool -P unconfined_chrome_sandbox_transition=0


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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Mark Haney
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On 02/26/14 16:07, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 
 Turn it off and see if it works.
 
 It does not change anything, still unable connect to socket: No
 route to host (113)
 
 ssh works fine
 
Can you telnet to the VNC port on the server?

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre

  Hello,
  
  vncviewer gives me:
  unable connect socket: No route to host (113) fedora
  
  I browsed the web, and tried sevral options without succes!
  
 
 It is probable a firewall issue on the machine running the server. I have 
 vncserver running on my classroom machines, and just got 20 new machines 
 in January, and have Fedora 20 added.
 
 firewall-config
 Which port are you running the vncserver on the machine.
5900-5903
Are you manually 
 starting it or using a script?
manually by using vncserver
iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport 5901 -j ACCEPT
 
 Note sure what the ports it selects by default. 
 Would go to the zones, and you said you said you had slected it.
 Then click on the Services at the top, and see what the port range is.
5900-5903
 Is the port you are using is in that range if it is there.
yes
iptables -L |grep 5901
ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere             tcp dpt:5901


 In the past, I had used a fixed port, so opened it on the firewall with the 
 port 
 option.
 
 I just did an iptables -L and didn't see a line that mentioned the range the 
 service shows, but did see the line for the specific port that I selected, so 
 you 
 might need to do the port to open the firewall?
 
 iptables -L | grep 59 (to show lines for the 5900-5999 range)
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre


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 On 02/26/14 16:07, Patrick Dupre wrote:
  
  Turn it off and see if it works.
  
  It does not change anything, still unable connect to socket: No
  route to host (113)
  
  ssh works fine
  
 Can you telnet to the VNC port on the server?

How I do it?

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Tom Rivers

On 2/26/2014 16:25, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Can you telnet to the VNC port on the server?

How I do it?


I'm not sure telnet is the way to go because if memory serves it isn't 
installed by default.  The best way to check is to use a port scanner to 
see the status of the port on the target system.  The tool I use is 
called nmap.  If you are using a Windows machine to vnc into the 
target system, you can download nmap from here:


http://nmap.org/download.html

If you are using Fedora to vnc to the target, then you can see if nmap 
is installed by running this as root from the command prompt:


yum info nmap

If it isn't installed, you can install it by using the following command:

yum install nmap

Once it is installed, you can run the following command on the source 
system to see if the target system has the port open:


nmap -v -n -P0 -p5900-5910 192.168.1.10

Just substitute the IP address of your target system for the address 
192.168.1.10 in the example above.  A result of closed means the 
port is being actively blocked and a message is being sent to tell you 
that it is.  A result of filtered means that the port is not 
responding to say whether it is open or not.  Once a result of open 
means that you can access the service listening on the port.


I gave a range of 5900-5910 in the example above because you can 
configure the vnc service to listen on a number of different ports. That 
what the :1 or :2 mean when you set up the entries in the 
/etc/sysconfig/vncserver file.  This also means that to connect to a vnc 
server set up for :2 on the example IP address above you need to use 
192.168.1.10:2 in the vncviewer and the nmap output from probing the 
target system should show that port 5902 is open.


Let us know what you find.


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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre

  Can you telnet to the VNC port on the server?
  How I do it?
 
 I'm not sure telnet is the way to go because if memory serves it isn't 
 installed by default. The best way to check is to use a port scanner to 
 see the status of the port on the target system. The tool I use is 
 called nmap. If you are using a Windows machine to vnc into the 
 target system, you can download nmap from here:
 
 http://nmap.org/download.html
 
 If you are using Fedora to vnc to the target, then you can see if nmap 
 is installed by running this as root from the command prompt:
 
 yum info nmap
 
 If it isn't installed, you can install it by using the following command:
 
 yum install nmap
 
 Once it is installed, you can run the following command on the source 
 system to see if the target system has the port open:
 
 nmap -v -n -P0 -p5900-5910 192.168.1.10
 
 Just substitute the IP address of your target system for the address 
 192.168.1.10 in the example above. A result of closed means the 
 port is being actively blocked and a message is being sent to tell you 
 that it is. A result of filtered means that the port is not 
 responding to say whether it is open or not. Once a result of open 
 means that you can access the service listening on the port.
 
 I gave a range of 5900-5910 in the example above because you can 
 configure the vnc service to listen on a number of different ports. That 
 what the :1 or :2 mean when you set up the entries in the 
 /etc/sysconfig/vncserver file. This also means that to connect to a vnc 
 server set up for :2 on the example IP address above you need to use 
 192.168.1.10:2 in the vncviewer and the nmap output from probing the 
 target system should show that port 5902 is open.

Starting Nmap 6.01 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2014-02-26 22:47 CET
Initiating SYN Stealth Scan at 22:47
Scanning 193.49.194.19 [4 ports]
Completed SYN Stealth Scan at 22:47, 3.01s elapsed (4 total ports)
Nmap scan report for 193.49.194.19
Host is up.
PORT     STATE    SERVICE
5900/tcp filtered vnc
5901/tcp filtered vnc-1
5902/tcp filtered vnc-2
5903/tcp filtered vnc-3

Read data files from: /usr/bin/../share/nmap
Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 3.08 seconds
           Raw packets sent: 8 (352B) | Rcvd: 11 (764B)



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Re: google-chrome not displaying text with selinux enforcing

2014-02-26 Thread Dale Dellutri
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote:
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 display some text on many web sites if selinux is set to enforcing, but
 shows the text with selinux set to permissive.

 For example, with selinux set to enforcing, my web site:
 http://www.DaleDellutri.com only shows the icon image in the upper left
 corner, an empty box, and the bluish outer color, but does not show any of
 the text on the page.  If I do # setenforce 0 and re-start google-chrome,
 then the page is displayed properly.

 Firefox shows the page properly no matter how selinux is set.

 With selinux enforcing, when I start google-chrome from the command line,
 it does not provide any error messages, and I don't see any error messages
 from selinux.

 Where are the selinux logs?  I've used # journalctl | grep -i selinux but
 there are no errors or warnings.

 What could cause this problem?

 Do you have any suggestions for debugging?

 -- Dale Dellutri


 Are you seeing any AVCs?

 ausearch -m avc -ts recent

Yes, though I did:
  ausearch -m avc -ts today
since these failures had happened more than ten minutes ago.

 You can turn off SELinux confinement of chrome sandbox, with

 setsebool -P unconfined_chrome_sandbox_transition=0

I did this and set selinux back to enforcing.  google-chrome
is now working as it should.

Thanks for this info.  Where could I read more about the
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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Tom Rivers

On 2/26/2014 16:49, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Starting Nmap 6.01 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2014-02-26 22:47 CET
Initiating SYN Stealth Scan at 22:47
Scanning 193.49.194.19 [4 ports]
Completed SYN Stealth Scan at 22:47, 3.01s elapsed (4 total ports)
Nmap scan report for 193.49.194.19
Host is up.
PORT STATESERVICE
5900/tcp filtered vnc
5901/tcp filtered vnc-1
5902/tcp filtered vnc-2
5903/tcp filtered vnc-3


This means that your firewall is blocking the ports or that your 
vncserver isn't really running on the target system.  You can determin 
if it is by running nmap on the target system and substituting 
localhost for the target IP like this:


nmap -v -n -P0 -p5900-5910 localhost

By the way, the IP address above appears to be public.  You may want to 
reconsider running a vncserver over the public Internet because the 
session is not encrypted.



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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre


 - Original Message -
 From: Tom Rivers
 Sent: 02/26/14 10:56 PM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
 On 2/26/2014 16:49, Patrick Dupre wrote:
  Starting Nmap 6.01 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2014-02-26 22:47 CET
  Initiating SYN Stealth Scan at 22:47
  Scanning 193.49.194.19 [4 ports]
  Completed SYN Stealth Scan at 22:47, 3.01s elapsed (4 total ports)
  Nmap scan report for 193.49.194.19
  Host is up.
  PORT STATE SERVICE
  5900/tcp filtered vnc
  5901/tcp filtered vnc-1
  5902/tcp filtered vnc-2
  5903/tcp filtered vnc-3
 
 This means that your firewall is blocking the ports or that your 
 vncserver isn't really running on the target system. You can determin 
 if it is by running nmap on the target system and substituting 
 localhost for the target IP like this:
 
 nmap -v -n -P0 -p5900-5910 localhost
 
# nmap -v -n -P0 -p5900-5910 localhost

Starting Nmap 6.40 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2014-02-26 23:00 CET
Initiating SYN Stealth Scan at 23:00
Scanning localhost (127.0.0.1) [11 ports]
Discovered open port 5905/tcp on 127.0.0.1
Discovered open port 5906/tcp on 127.0.0.1
Discovered open port 5901/tcp on 127.0.0.1
Completed SYN Stealth Scan at 23:00, 0.01s elapsed (11 total ports)
Nmap scan report for localhost (127.0.0.1)
Host is up (0.20s latency).
Other addresses for localhost (not scanned): 127.0.0.1
PORT     STATE  SERVICE
5900/tcp closed vnc
5901/tcp open   vnc-1
5902/tcp closed vnc-2
5903/tcp closed vnc-3
5904/tcp closed unknown
5905/tcp open   unknown
5906/tcp open   unknown
5907/tcp closed unknown
5908/tcp closed unknown
5909/tcp closed unknown
5910/tcp closed cm

Read data files from: /usr/bin/../share/nmap
Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.04 seconds
           Raw packets sent: 11 (484B) | Rcvd: 25 (1.056KB)

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Re: Two row system tray

2014-02-26 Thread Colin J Thomson
On Wed 26 February 2014 12:36:56 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
 My system tray used to have two rows of small icons.  Now it has one
 row: items that hide themselves into the tray are small and not
 resizeable (Thunderbird, Qalculate, Knemo); native widgets are large and
 resizeable (Klipper, Kmix, Device Notifier, Network Management).  The
 Pager and Task Manager both have two rows.
 
 How can I force the tray to have two rows?  Is this possible?

Yes Jon, 
unlock the widgets (if there locked) right and click on the panel  panel 
options  panel settings. In panel settings and slightly increase the height 
of the panel.

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Tom Rivers

On 2/26/2014 17:01, Patrick Dupre wrote:

# nmap -v -n -P0 -p5900-5910 localhost

Starting Nmap 6.40 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2014-02-26 23:00 CET
Initiating SYN Stealth Scan at 23:00
Scanning localhost (127.0.0.1) [11 ports]
Discovered open port 5905/tcp on 127.0.0.1
Discovered open port 5906/tcp on 127.0.0.1
Discovered open port 5901/tcp on 127.0.0.1
Completed SYN Stealth Scan at 23:00, 0.01s elapsed (11 total ports)
Nmap scan report for localhost (127.0.0.1)
Host is up (0.20s latency).
Other addresses for localhost (not scanned): 127.0.0.1
PORT STATE  SERVICE
5900/tcp closed vnc
5901/tcp open   vnc-1
5902/tcp closed vnc-2
5903/tcp closed vnc-3
5904/tcp closed unknown
5905/tcp open   unknown
5906/tcp open   unknown
5907/tcp closed unknown
5908/tcp closed unknown
5909/tcp closed unknown
5910/tcp closed cm


OK, the ports 5905 and 5906 are open and in use locally. Unfortunately, 
your previous scan results didn't show the status of those same ports 
from the remote machine.  Try the following command on the remote machine:


nmap -v -n -P0 -p5905-5906 193.49.194.19

If the ports aren't showing up as open then it is your firewall that 
is the problem.  Make sure you open those ports for both inbound and 
outbound traffic in your firewall configuration on the system running 
the vncserver.



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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre


 - Original Message -
 From: Tom Rivers
 Sent: 02/26/14 11:08 PM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
 On 2/26/2014 17:01, Patrick Dupre wrote:
  # nmap -v -n -P0 -p5900-5910 localhost
 
  Starting Nmap 6.40 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2014-02-26 23:00 CET
  Initiating SYN Stealth Scan at 23:00
  Scanning localhost (127.0.0.1) [11 ports]
  Discovered open port 5905/tcp on 127.0.0.1
  Discovered open port 5906/tcp on 127.0.0.1
  Discovered open port 5901/tcp on 127.0.0.1
  Completed SYN Stealth Scan at 23:00, 0.01s elapsed (11 total ports)
  Nmap scan report for localhost (127.0.0.1)
  Host is up (0.20s latency).
  Other addresses for localhost (not scanned): 127.0.0.1
  PORT STATE SERVICE
  5900/tcp closed vnc
  5901/tcp open vnc-1
  5902/tcp closed vnc-2
  5903/tcp closed vnc-3
  5904/tcp closed unknown
  5905/tcp open unknown
  5906/tcp open unknown
  5907/tcp closed unknown
  5908/tcp closed unknown
  5909/tcp closed unknown
  5910/tcp closed cm
 
 OK, the ports 5905 and 5906 are open and in use locally. Unfortunately, 
 your previous scan results didn't show the status of those same ports 
 from the remote machine. Try the following command on the remote machine:
 
 nmap -v -n -P0 -p5905-5906 193.49.194.19
sorry:
PORT     STATE    SERVICE
5900/tcp filtered vnc
5901/tcp filtered vnc-1
5902/tcp filtered vnc-2
5903/tcp filtered vnc-3
5904/tcp filtered unknown
5905/tcp filtered unknown
5906/tcp filtered unknown
5907/tcp filtered unknown
5908/tcp filtered unknown
5909/tcp filtered unknown
5910/tcp filtered cm


 If the ports aren't showing up as open then it is your firewall that 
 is the problem. Make sure you open those ports for both inbound and 
 outbound traffic in your firewall configuration on the system running 
 the vncserver.

How i do it?
vncserver is not helpfull,
Is it a file that I need to edit?

Thank


 
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Re: google-chrome not displaying text with selinux enforcing

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko

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 I did this and set selinux back to enforcing.  google-chrome
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Good to see it is OK now.  FWIW, I have a fully updated F20 system.  I'm using 
KDE and google chrome and I am not seeing any problems when I visit your 
website.

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Re: Two row system tray

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/27/14 06:30, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
 This only makes things worse.  The large (native) icons get larger,
 while the icons put into the tray by applications stay the same size.  A
 screenshot is attached.  The tray does not become two row.  Just to be
 clear, I am asking about the *tray* and not the *panel*.

Well, if you right click on the small triangle to the left of the clock 
you'll get a System Tray Settings option.  But, I don't see any settings for 
number of rows.

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Re: Two row system tray

2014-02-26 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 22:02 +, Colin J Thomson wrote:
 On Wed 26 February 2014 12:36:56 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
  My system tray used to have two rows of small icons.  Now it has one
  row: items that hide themselves into the tray are small and not
  resizeable (Thunderbird, Qalculate, Knemo); native widgets are large and
  resizeable (Klipper, Kmix, Device Notifier, Network Management).  The
  Pager and Task Manager both have two rows.
  
  How can I force the tray to have two rows?  Is this possible?
 
 Yes Jon, 
 unlock the widgets (if there locked) right and click on the panel  panel 
 options  panel settings. In panel settings and slightly increase the height 
 of the panel.

This only makes things worse.  The large (native) icons get larger,
while the icons put into the tray by applications stay the same size.  A
screenshot is attached.  The tray does not become two row.  Just to be
clear, I am asking about the *tray* and not the *panel*.

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Re: Two row system tray

2014-02-26 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 06:38 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 02/27/14 06:30, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
  
  This only makes things worse.  The large (native) icons get larger,
  while the icons put into the tray by applications stay the same size.  A
  screenshot is attached.  The tray does not become two row.  Just to be
  clear, I am asking about the *tray* and not the *panel*.
 
 Well, if you right click on the small triangle to the left of the
 clock you'll get a System Tray Settings option.  But, I don't see
 any settings for number of rows.

Neither do I.  This is the first thing I tried and where I started to
get confused.  The system tray (as I wrote) *used to* have two rows
before I dinked with
System Settings-Applications Appearance
or possible before a system update (both happened at more or less at the
same time), but now there seems to be no way to get back.

Thanks - jon

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Re: Re: Two row system tray

2014-02-26 Thread Colin J Thomson
On Wed 26 February 2014 14:30:57 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 22:02 +, Colin J Thomson wrote:
  On Wed 26 February 2014 12:36:56 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
   My system tray used to have two rows of small icons.  Now it has one
   row: items that hide themselves into the tray are small and not
   resizeable (Thunderbird, Qalculate, Knemo); native widgets are large and
   resizeable (Klipper, Kmix, Device Notifier, Network Management).  The
   Pager and Task Manager both have two rows.
   
   How can I force the tray to have two rows?  Is this possible?
  
  Yes Jon,
  unlock the widgets (if there locked) right and click on the panel  panel
  options  panel settings. In panel settings and slightly increase the
  height of the panel.
 
 This only makes things worse.  The large (native) icons get larger,
 while the icons put into the tray by applications stay the same size.  A
 screenshot is attached.  The tray does not become two row.  Just to be
 clear, I am asking about the *tray* and not the *panel*.

Yes adjusting the *panel* size here by a small amount will give me one or two 
rows in the sys tray. See attached..

I can't think what else it could be, I'm using Oxygen for workspace and 
application appearance and Nouveau.

Does it happen with a new user, maybe one of of the plasma*rc files got 
corrupt somehow.

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Re: Two row system tray

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/27/14 07:00, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
 Neither do I.  This is the first thing I tried and where I started to get 
 confused.  The system tray (as I wrote) **used to** have two rows before I 
 dinked with
 System Settings-Applications Appearance
 or possible before a system update (both happened at more or less at the same 
 time), but now there seems to be no way to get back.

FWIW, I've never seen rows in the systray.  The width of the systray on my 
systems has simply expanded/contracted as icons appear.  Software Updater 
being an example of one that comes and goes.  I also don't see any settings for 
the panel that would constrain the width of the systray.but if there were 
one I could see that having an effect.

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre
 
 OK, the ports 5905 and 5906 are open and in use locally. Unfortunately, 
 your previous scan results didn't show the status of those same ports 
 from the remote machine. Try the following command on the remote machine:
 
 nmap -v -n -P0 -p5905-5906 193.49.194.19
 
 If the ports aren't showing up as open then it is your firewall that 
 is the problem.

Make sure you open those ports for both inbound and 
 outbound traffic in your firewall configuration on the system running 
 the vncserver.
 
How to I to this!!

using firewall-config?
But I do see what do to do.
Under vnc-server service I have already port 5900-5903 in tcp!
Why only one is open?
why 5901 is not enough?
what should I get?
why 5905 and 5906 are open unknown?
I do not see how I can control them!

PORT     STATE  SERVICE
5900/tcp closed vnc
5901/tcp open   vnc-1
5902/tcp closed vnc-2
5903/tcp closed vnc-3
5904/tcp closed unknown
5905/tcp open   unknown
5906/tcp open   unknown

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RE: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Pittigher, Raymond - ES
Just do a iptables -F at a command line to see if that is the problem before 
you go crazy with trying to configure the ports.




From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:41 PM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Re: vncviewer


 OK, the ports 5905 and 5906 are open and in use locally. Unfortunately,
 your previous scan results didn't show the status of those same ports
 from the remote machine. Try the following command on the remote machine:

 nmap -v -n -P0 -p5905-5906 193.49.194.19

 If the ports aren't showing up as open then it is your firewall that
 is the problem.

Make sure you open those ports for both inbound and
 outbound traffic in your firewall configuration on the system running
 the vncserver.

How to I to this!!

using firewall-config?
But I do see what do to do.
Under vnc-server service I have already port 5900-5903 in tcp!
Why only one is open?
why 5901 is not enough?
what should I get?
why 5905 and 5906 are open unknown?
I do not see how I can control them!

PORT STATE  SERVICE
5900/tcp closed vnc
5901/tcp open   vnc-1
5902/tcp closed vnc-2
5903/tcp closed vnc-3
5904/tcp closed unknown
5905/tcp open   unknown
5906/tcp open   unknown

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/27/14 05:43, Tom Rivers wrote:
 I'm not sure telnet is the way to go because if memory serves it isn't 
 installed by default.

FYI, it is the telnet server that is not installed by default.  The client 
is

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/27/14 07:41, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 PORT STATE  SERVICE
 5900/tcp closed vnc
 5901/tcp open   vnc-1
 5902/tcp closed vnc-2
 5903/tcp closed vnc-3
 5904/tcp closed unknown
 5905/tcp open   unknown
 5906/tcp open   unknown

closed means the port is not blocked/filtered by the firewall.  However, 
there is no process listening on that port.

On your server, you can see what ports the vnc server is using by..

netstat -napt | grep -i vnc

From the client side, you should be able to verify you can connect to the 
server by using telnet...

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet 192.168.1.227 5901
Trying 192.168.1.227...
Connected to 192.168.1.227.
Escape character is '^]'.
RFB 003.008



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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
One more thing.

When using vncviewer make sure you specify the display #.

vncviewer 192.168.1.227 would attempt to connect to 0 which is port 5900 . 
on which you don't have a server running.

You want.

vncviewer 192.168.1.227:1 to connect to port 5901 !

Use the proper IP address, of course.   :-)
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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre


 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 01:05 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
 On 02/27/14 07:41, Patrick Dupre wrote:
  PORT STATE SERVICE
  5900/tcp closed vnc
  5901/tcp open vnc-1
  5902/tcp closed vnc-2
  5903/tcp closed vnc-3
  5904/tcp closed unknown
  5905/tcp open unknown
  5906/tcp open unknown
 
 closed means the port is not blocked/filtered by the firewall. However, 
 there is no process listening on that port.
 
 On your server, you can see what ports the vnc server is using by..
 
 netstat -napt | grep -i vnc
cp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5901            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
3195/Xvnc           
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5905            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
12190/Xvnc          
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6001            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
3195/Xvnc           
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5906            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
12620/Xvnc          
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5907            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
17574/Xvnc          
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6005            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
12190/Xvnc          
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6006            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
12620/Xvnc          
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6007            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
17574/Xvnc          
tcp6       0      0 :::6001                 :::*                    LISTEN      
3195/Xvnc           
tcp6       0      0 :::6005                 :::*                    LISTEN      
12190/Xvnc          
tcp6       0      0 :::6006                 :::*                    LISTEN      
12620/Xvnc          
tcp6       0      0 :::6007                 :::*                    LISTEN      
17574/Xvnc     
 
 From the client side, you should be able to verify you can connect to the 
 server by using telnet...
 
 [egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet 192.168.1.227 5901
 Trying 192.168.1.227...
 Connected to 192.168.1.227.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 RFB 003.008

 telnet: connect to address 193.49.194.1xx: No route to host
(with the correct IP)
ssh works OK!
why no route again!

 
 
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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/27/14 08:13, Patrick Dupre wrote:
  telnet: connect to address 193.49.194.1xx: No route to host
 (with the correct IP)
 ssh works OK!
 why no route again!

Because you are int specifying the PORT NUMBER!



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RE: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre


 - Original Message -
 From: Pittigher, Raymond - ES
 Sent: 02/27/14 12:47 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: RE: vncviewer
 
 Just do a iptables -F at a command line to see if that is the problem before 
 you go crazy with trying to configure the ports.

iptables -F

no feedback,
then:
netstat -napt | grep -i vnc
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5901            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
3195/Xvnc           
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5905            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
12190/Xvnc          
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6001            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
3195/Xvnc           
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5906            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
12620/Xvnc          
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5907            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
17574/Xvnc          
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5908            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
24677/Xvnc          
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6005            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
12190/Xvnc          
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6006            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
12620/Xvnc          
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6007            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
17574/Xvnc          
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6008            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      
24677/Xvnc          
tcp6       0      0 :::6001                 :::*                    LISTEN      
3195/Xvnc           
tcp6       0      0 :::6005                 :::*                    LISTEN      
12190/Xvnc          
tcp6       0      0 :::6006                 :::*                    LISTEN      
12620/Xvnc          
tcp6       0      0 :::6007                 :::*                    LISTEN      
17574/Xvnc          
tcp6       0      0 :::6008                 :::*                    LISTEN      
24677/Xvnc     


 
 
 
 From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
 [users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] on behalf of Patrick Dupre 
 [pdu...@gmx.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:41 PM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
 
  OK, the ports 5905 and 5906 are open and in use locally. Unfortunately,
  your previous scan results didn't show the status of those same ports
  from the remote machine. Try the following command on the remote machine:
 
  nmap -v -n -P0 -p5905-5906 193.49.194.19
 
  If the ports aren't showing up as open then it is your firewall that
  is the problem.
 
 Make sure you open those ports for both inbound and
  outbound traffic in your firewall configuration on the system running
  the vncserver.
 
 How to I to this!!
 
 using firewall-config?
 But I do see what do to do.
 Under vnc-server service I have already port 5900-5903 in tcp!
 Why only one is open?
 why 5901 is not enough?
 what should I get?
 why 5905 and 5906 are open unknown?
 I do not see how I can control them!
 
 PORT STATE SERVICE
 5900/tcp closed vnc
 5901/tcp open vnc-1
 5902/tcp closed vnc-2
 5903/tcp closed vnc-3
 5904/tcp closed unknown
 5905/tcp open unknown
 5906/tcp open unknown
 
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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre


 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 01:15 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
 On 02/27/14 08:13, Patrick Dupre wrote:
  telnet: connect to address 193.49.194.1xx: No route to host
  (with the correct IP)
  ssh works OK!
  why no route again!
 
 Because you are int specifying the PORT NUMBER!
 
Are you sure?

telnet connections are not accepted on the machine.
telnet machine x  (x=0,1) gives  No route to host

vncviewer 193.49.194.196:0
or
vncviewer 193.49.194.196:1
give

 main:        unable connect to socket: No route to host (113)


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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/27/14 08:33, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 Are you sure?

 telnet connections are not accepted on the machine.
 telnet machine x  (x=0,1) gives  No route to host

 vncviewer 193.49.194.196:0
 or
 vncviewer 193.49.194.196:1
 give

  main:unable connect to socket: No route to host (113)


Is your client on the same LAN as 193.49.194.196 ?

Are you sure there isn't another firewall between your client and server?

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre


 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 01:36 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
 On 02/27/14 08:33, Patrick Dupre wrote:
  Are you sure?
 
  telnet connections are not accepted on the machine.
  telnet machine x (x=0,1) gives No route to host
 
  vncviewer 193.49.194.196:0
  or
  vncviewer 193.49.194.196:1
  give
 
  main: unable connect to socket: No route to host (113)
 
 
 Is your client on the same LAN as 193.49.194.196 ?
 
Of course there is a firewall, it is not on the same LAN
Should I ask to have the port open?
which ones ?
which protocle? vnc?
Is it the same probleme with freenx?

Thank.

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/27/14 08:33, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 telnet connections are not accepted on the machine.
 telnet machine x  (x=0,1) gives  No route to host

In your example x should be 5901  not 0 or 1.

In telnet the last number is the Port.
In vncviewer the last number is the Display number.  vncviewer will translate 
that into the port number.

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/27/14 08:45, Patrick Dupre wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 01:36 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer

 On 02/27/14 08:33, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 Are you sure?

 telnet connections are not accepted on the machine.
 telnet machine x (x=0,1) gives No route to host

 vncviewer 193.49.194.196:0
 or
 vncviewer 193.49.194.196:1
 give

 main: unable connect to socket: No route to host (113)

 Is your client on the same LAN as 193.49.194.196 ?

 Of course there is a firewall, it is not on the same LAN
 Should I ask to have the port open?
 which ones ?
 which protocle? vnc?
 Is it the same probleme with freenx?


[root@meimei ~]# nmap -v -n -P0 -p5900-5906 193.49.194.196

Starting Nmap 6.40 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2014-02-27 08:39 CST
Initiating SYN Stealth Scan at 08:39
Scanning 193.49.194.196 [7 ports]
Completed SYN Stealth Scan at 08:39, 3.02s elapsed (7 total ports)
Nmap scan report for 193.49.194.196
Host is up.
PORT STATESERVICE
5900/tcp filtered vnc
5901/tcp filtered vnc-1
5902/tcp filtered vnc-2
5903/tcp filtered vnc-3
5904/tcp filtered unknown
5905/tcp filtered unknown
5906/tcp filtered unknown

Which is what I would expect and which is what I think you're seeing from your 
remote client

I think you should discuss the situation with the Network Administrator.  Port 
5901 would be sufficient, but they may not grant your request.

Yes, this is the same issue for freenx. 
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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
Oh

You said ssh works.

You should use vncviewer over an ssh tunnel in that case.

The easiest way to do that would be to use a graphical client such as 
remmina.

Ed

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre


 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 01:56 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
 Oh
 
 You said ssh works.
 
 You should use vncviewer over an ssh tunnel in that case.
 
 The easiest way to do that would be to use a graphical client such as 
 remmina.
 
remmina works, but I do not see the point, it does no let me have the 
desktop (gnome3) on the remote machine.


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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/27/14 09:06, Patrick Dupre wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 01:56 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer

 Oh

 You said ssh works.

 You should use vncviewer over an ssh tunnel in that case.

 The easiest way to do that would be to use a graphical client such as 
 remmina.

 remmina works, but I do not see the point, it does no let me have the 
 desktop (gnome3) on the remote machine.


What do you mean?   I have it running here just fine

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre


 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 02:10 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
 On 02/27/14 09:06, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Ed Greshko
  Sent: 02/27/14 01:56 AM
  To: Community support for Fedora users
  Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
  Oh
 
  You said ssh works.
 
  You should use vncviewer over an ssh tunnel in that case.
 
  The easiest way to do that would be to use a graphical client such as 
  remmina.
 
  remmina works, but I do not see the point, it does no let me have the 
  desktop (gnome3) on the remote machine.
 
 
 What do you mean? I have it running here just fine
 
I just get a text window
how can I get a graphics window?

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/27/14 09:13, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 I just get a text window
 how can I get a graphics window?

The protocol you want is VNC - Virtual Network Computing.

See

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2H9v1dYNcvpY2VJdTNYcVZpc2M/edit?usp=sharing
and
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2H9v1dYNcvpZXNYdnBpVUFjQ3c/edit?usp=sharing

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/27/14 09:13, Patrick Dupre wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 02:10 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer

 On 02/27/14 09:06, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 01:56 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer

 Oh

 You said ssh works.

 You should use vncviewer over an ssh tunnel in that case.

 The easiest way to do that would be to use a graphical client such as 
 remmina.

 remmina works, but I do not see the point, it does no let me have the 
 desktop (gnome3) on the remote machine.

 What do you mean? I have it running here just fine

 I just get a text window
 how can I get a graphics window?


You may need to add the appropriate plugin

 [egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -qa | grep remm
remmina-plugins-telepathy-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
remmina-plugins-vnc-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
remmina-plugins-nx-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
remmina-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
remmina-plugins-rdp-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
remmina-plugins-gnome-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
remmina-plugins-xdmcp-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64


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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/27/14 09:13, Patrick Dupre wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 02:10 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer

 On 02/27/14 09:06, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 01:56 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer

 Oh

 You said ssh works.

 You should use vncviewer over an ssh tunnel in that case.

 The easiest way to do that would be to use a graphical client such as 
 remmina.

 remmina works, but I do not see the point, it does no let me have the 
 desktop (gnome3) on the remote machine.

 What do you mean? I have it running here just fine

 I just get a text window
 how can I get a graphics window?


You may need to add the appropriate plugin

 [egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -qa | grep remm
remmina-plugins-telepathy-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
remmina-plugins-vnc-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
remmina-plugins-nx-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
remmina-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
remmina-plugins-rdp-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
remmina-plugins-gnome-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
remmina-plugins-xdmcp-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64


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Broken deps for get_iplayer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On attempting to install get_iplayer yum gives me:

snip

Error: Package: get_iplayer-2.85-5.fc20.noarch (rpmfusion-free-updates)
   Requires: perl(Streamer)
Error: Package: get_iplayer-2.85-5.fc20.noarch (rpmfusion-free-updates)
   Requires: perl(Programme::bbclive)
Error: Package: get_iplayer-2.85-5.fc20.noarch (rpmfusion-free-updates)
   Requires: perl(Programme::bbciplayer)
Error: Package: get_iplayer-2.85-5.fc20.noarch (rpmfusion-free-updates)
   Requires: perl(Programme)

Since these are all for Perl modules I'm unsure how to relate them to
Fedora package names. yum search: doesn't help. Any illumination
gratefully received.

poc

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre


 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 02:24 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
 On 02/27/14 09:13, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Ed Greshko
  Sent: 02/27/14 02:10 AM
  To: Community support for Fedora users
  Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
  On 02/27/14 09:06, Patrick Dupre wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: Ed Greshko
  Sent: 02/27/14 01:56 AM
  To: Community support for Fedora users
  Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
  Oh
 
  You said ssh works.
 
  You should use vncviewer over an ssh tunnel in that case.
 
  The easiest way to do that would be to use a graphical client such as 
  remmina.
 
  remmina works, but I do not see the point, it does no let me have the 
  desktop (gnome3) on the remote machine.
 
  What do you mean? I have it running here just fine
 
  I just get a text window
  how can I get a graphics window?
 
 
 You may need to add the appropriate plugin
 
  [egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -qa | grep remm
 remmina-plugins-telepathy-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
 remmina-plugins-vnc-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
 remmina-plugins-nx-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
 remmina-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
 remmina-plugins-rdp-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
 remmina-plugins-gnome-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
 remmina-plugins-xdmcp-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
 
Sure,

But how do I choose,
remmina-nx or remmina-gnome ?

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Re: AM/PM in Thunderbird -

2014-02-26 Thread g



On 02/27/14 01:53, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 23:45 +0600, g wrote:





bob know what it means. :-)


As do I, now that you've said you meant s/n ratio.


granted, due to s/n also abrivs 'serial number'.

next time i will use the other abriv - s2n. :-)




yes, when kde is closed, what ever was running is closed, unless
there was a 'nohup' issued.

when i _logout_ from kde desktop, to 'switch user', 'suspend to
disk', 'suspend to memory', 'restart', or 'shutdown', i do not
close out what ever i have sitting open in 'task bar'.


Switching user and suspending do not log out. Shutdown and

 restart do.

ok. i do not use either. next time i will try and not presume. ;-)





Can't think of a reason for that offhand, other than some kind of
script bug.


'script bug'?


A bug in the .bashrc init script.


which? '/etc/bashrc' or '/etc/skel/.bashrc'?

i would think it to be former than latter. strange that if it is
either, it has not been noticed before now.




not all true. see above.


I disagree. I invite you to list the process IDs of the running

 apps in one of your sessions, close the session without restarting
 the system, start a new session, then list the PIDs again. The two
 lists will show different PIDs.

well now, that is a rather boastful statement to make. even for
you. ;-)

in fact, i would go so far as to say that a few system processes
will have same pid from one start up to another, much less a user
starting a desktop having the same numbers.

i would say that maybe the 1st 100 or 200 system processes listed
_might_ have the same pid, but there will be very few after that.

i base this on way pids are assigned, time taken to start processes,
time allotted to the processes, and a whole lot of other variables
that i do not recall.

it has been a long time passed when i first read about pid numbers
and how they are assigned to a process. and, i am talking about
sometime back in the 80's.

just by listing the first 200 lines of different start ups, one
will/should very quickly see a difference. and, note that i use
word _line_, because the 1st couple hundred lines are not in a
sequential order because there are processes that start and end
during system start up, as well as with a user start up.

also, understand that i am not, nor have i intended to infer,
that the *exact* same _process_, including the pid, is restarted,
only that the *processes* on the task bar are _restarted_.

with two exceptions, firefox's library and thunderbird's address
book. they must be restarted manually, which is something that i
have noted when restarting desktop. minor things do not remain in
my 'chemo brain'. ;-)

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/27/14 09:36, Patrick Dupre wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 02:24 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer

 On 02/27/14 09:13, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 02:10 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer

 On 02/27/14 09:06, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 01:56 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer

 Oh

 You said ssh works.

 You should use vncviewer over an ssh tunnel in that case.

 The easiest way to do that would be to use a graphical client such as 
 remmina.

 remmina works, but I do not see the point, it does no let me have the 
 desktop (gnome3) on the remote machine.

 What do you mean? I have it running here just fine

 I just get a text window
 how can I get a graphics window?

 You may need to add the appropriate plugin

  [egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -qa | grep remm
 remmina-plugins-telepathy-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
 remmina-plugins-vnc-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
 remmina-plugins-nx-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
 remmina-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
 remmina-plugins-rdp-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
 remmina-plugins-gnome-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
 remmina-plugins-xdmcp-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64

 Sure,

 But how do I choose,
 remmina-nx or remmina-gnome ?


the protocol we are now talking about is vnc so make sure 
remmina-plugins-vnc is installed.

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Re: Broken deps for get_iplayer

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/27/14 09:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On attempting to install get_iplayer yum gives me:

 snip

 Error: Package: get_iplayer-2.85-5.fc20.noarch (rpmfusion-free-updates)
Requires: perl(Streamer)
 Error: Package: get_iplayer-2.85-5.fc20.noarch (rpmfusion-free-updates)
Requires: perl(Programme::bbclive)
 Error: Package: get_iplayer-2.85-5.fc20.noarch (rpmfusion-free-updates)
Requires: perl(Programme::bbciplayer)
 Error: Package: get_iplayer-2.85-5.fc20.noarch (rpmfusion-free-updates)
Requires: perl(Programme)

 Since these are all for Perl modules I'm unsure how to relate them to
 Fedora package names. yum search: doesn't help. Any illumination
 gratefully received.

 poc


I could not find those modules on cpan.org.  I think I would take up this issue 
with the RPM-FUSION folks.  :-)

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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Patrick Dupre


 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Greshko
 Sent: 02/27/14 02:38 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
 On 02/27/14 09:36, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Ed Greshko
  Sent: 02/27/14 02:24 AM
  To: Community support for Fedora users
  Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
  On 02/27/14 09:13, Patrick Dupre wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: Ed Greshko
  Sent: 02/27/14 02:10 AM
  To: Community support for Fedora users
  Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
  On 02/27/14 09:06, Patrick Dupre wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: Ed Greshko
  Sent: 02/27/14 01:56 AM
  To: Community support for Fedora users
  Subject: Re: vncviewer
 
  Oh
 
  You said ssh works.
 
  You should use vncviewer over an ssh tunnel in that case.
 
  The easiest way to do that would be to use a graphical client such 
  as remmina.
 
  remmina works, but I do not see the point, it does no let me have the 
  desktop (gnome3) on the remote machine.
 
  What do you mean? I have it running here just fine
 
  I just get a text window
  how can I get a graphics window?
 
  You may need to add the appropriate plugin
 
  [egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -qa | grep remm
  remmina-plugins-telepathy-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
  remmina-plugins-vnc-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
  remmina-plugins-nx-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
  remmina-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
  remmina-plugins-rdp-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
  remmina-plugins-gnome-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
  remmina-plugins-xdmcp-1.0.0-9.fc20.x86_64
 
  Sure,
 
  But how do I choose,
  remmina-nx or remmina-gnome ?
 
I am trying by vnc uisng ssh tunnelin,
It does ask me for the password, and then wait
connectiong to 196.49.  through ssh tunnel for ever.


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Re: vncviewer

2014-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/27/14 09:55, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 I am trying by vnc uisng ssh tunnelin,
 It does ask me for the password, and then wait
 connectiong to 196.49.  through ssh tunnel for ever.

On the server side.  Your user should have a ~/.vnc directory and there should 
be a log file.

Does that file contain a Connections: accepted: line?

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Re: Broken deps for get_iplayer

2014-02-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 02/27/2014 02:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/27/14 09:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On attempting to install get_iplayer yum gives me:

snip

Error: Package: get_iplayer-2.85-5.fc20.noarch (rpmfusion-free-updates)
Requires: perl(Streamer)
Error: Package: get_iplayer-2.85-5.fc20.noarch (rpmfusion-free-updates)
Requires: perl(Programme::bbclive)
Error: Package: get_iplayer-2.85-5.fc20.noarch (rpmfusion-free-updates)
Requires: perl(Programme::bbciplayer)
Error: Package: get_iplayer-2.85-5.fc20.noarch (rpmfusion-free-updates)
Requires: perl(Programme)

Since these are all for Perl modules I'm unsure how to relate them to
Fedora package names. yum search: doesn't help. Any illumination
gratefully received.

poc



I could not find those modules on cpan.org.  I think I would take up this issue 
with the RPM-FUSION folks.  :-)

This package is broken. The perl modules rpm complains about are all 
self-provided modules inside of /usr/bin/get_iplayer.


Rpmfusion needs to add filters to their rpm-spec to filter these 
Requires: out.


Ralf

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