Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
On 04/26/2014 04:45 AM, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 10:03 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: No, but IIRC the tmpfs filesystem created and mounted on /tmp is 50% of your system RAM. Once that is committed, it's done. It won't use up all of your RAM and /tmp won't get any bigger than that, but then again half of your available RAM is no longer available for program usage. Seems extreme. How many temporary files are that big? /tmp is system-wide writable, i.e. any arbitrary users and any arbitrary process can create an arbitrary number of files in /tmp. As /tmp had been the traditional unlimited sink for temporary files, many tools create temporary files of arbitrary size in /tmp. These tools will occasionally fail to work with TmpOnTmpfs and may cause system malfunctions, esp. on small RAM systems. Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
On 4-25-14 10:03:11 Rick Stevens wrote: > No, but IIRC the tmpfs filesystem created and mounted on /tmp is 50% > of your system RAM. Once that is committed, it's done. It won't use > up all of your RAM and /tmp won't get any bigger than that, but then > again half of your available RAM is no longer available for program > usage. That's not true. Swap will come into play and unreferenced data in the /tmp files will be paged out in favor of claiming that memory for other uses. It's still a win, however. If and when some file that was paged out is opened or read again, it will be paged back in. That can be faster than normal file I/O. > IMHO using a tmpfs for /tmp is a spectacularly stupid thing to do. > How it got by the vetting process is beyond me. This was discussed in great detail before the change was made. -- Garry T. Williams -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 10:03 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > No, but IIRC the tmpfs filesystem created and mounted on /tmp is 50% > of your system RAM. Once that is committed, it's done. It won't use up > all of your RAM and /tmp won't get any bigger than that, but then > again half of your available RAM is no longer available for program > usage. Seems extreme. How many temporary files are that big? Most of the stuff I see in it are merely a few kilobytes. However, I agree with the following, for a particular reason, not just in general (which I do, as well): > > IMHO using a tmpfs for /tmp is a spectacularly stupid thing to do. How > it got by the vetting process is beyond me. Those of us who've gone to burn a CD or DVD, only to have the program mysteriously fail (i.e. no sane error message was ever shown), because it wanted to create the ISO in /tmp before it burnt it, but we never had enough RAM to create an entire ISO file, in the first place. It strikes me that programs that create small temporary files ought to be putting them in an appropriate place, perhaps a /tmp that's known to be in RAM, so long as they can cope with their temporary files disappearing on them. But, those things that may need to keep a temporary file around for a while, ought to be doing it space that's known to be non-volatile. And those programs that create large temporary files ought to be putting them where it's known to be non-RAM, such as inside /var/spool. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.11.10-301.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Thu Dec 5 14:21:31 UTC 2013 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Coding Practice [was Re: Serious OpenSSL vulnerability]
On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 23:26 -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > millions and millions of affected users who had to go ahead and change > passwords for many many things they rely on One thing I haven't seen mentioned, here nor elsewhere, was whether the bug could only affect you if they tried to hack the server while you were using it. Or if it was possible to extra useful data well after you had been and gone. Since it's talking about reading data beyond what's expected, I suspect it may be that you were vulnerable even sometime after your session, if the server hadn't re-used the memory for something else, yet. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.11.10-301.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Thu Dec 5 14:21:31 UTC 2013 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. That Gnome 3 shite is really pissing me off. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: System start halts due to Nvidia drivers
Hi Eirik, I assume from this you are trying to use the proprietary nvidia drivers which are not in the Fedora repositories, would this be correct? Either way, when you system hangs you should be able to press Alt-F1 or Alt-F7 depending on how your system is configured to start a new session where you can log in to a new shell, and then look at the xorg log in /var/log which will then tell you if the nvidia driver you are using is causing an issue. Looking at the guide you have linked to, I have tried the removal of the nouveau driver via the method documented and was not able to get it to work. I am using the kmod drivers identified in the guide and have had no problem with those working. I have also found that if you try to install a kmod driver that is for an older kernel version to what you are using, it will not install unless the install can find the matching older kernel. If you have installed a kmod driver for an older kernel and you boot into the newer kernel you will definitely get issues where the system appears to hang, because the nvidia driver you are using must have been built for the kernel you are using, xorg will fail if it isn't. If you have multiple kernels listed in your boot menu try booting with an older kernel to see if that works, which will identify if you have an nvidia driver - kernel version issue. My reading of the xorg log when investigating issues indicates that it is potentially a bad move to remove the nouveau driver anyway (also when using the kmod nvidia drivers you don't need to remove the nouveau driver explicitly anyway) as, if I have read things correctly, when using the nvidia drivers xorg has a hierarchy of drivers it will try to use, it will try to use the nvidia driver first, if that fails it falls back to the nouveau driver, and if that fails I think it falls back to the vga driver. Also I'm not sure what the acpid package the guide is suggesting to be installed is, I have never explicitly installed that package with the drivers, so I'm assuming it is installed by default anyway. regards, Steve On 04/25/2014 09:00 PM, Eirik Gundersen wrote: Followed this guide after clean install of Fedora. When I restart the system it hangs at the "started accounts service". I figure this is due to the newly installed nvidia drivers. Where did I go wrong? I read somewhere that maybe the driver for that particular kernel version was not ready? http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2014/fedora-20-nvidia-guide/ <>-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
On 04/25/2014 05:08 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: It's already a 64-bit system. I am hoping and expecting to be able to increase the RAM later this year. But I can't, yet: It's a dedicated server in Munich that I'm renting month-to-month and I have to be able to swing the rent. ;-) Rent, of course must come first, which is why I asked if an upgrade were practical. Make sure you know how much the RAM costs, both to buy and to get installed if you're not doing it yourself, and put the upgrade onto your wish list. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SOLVED: Thunderbird can't read Mail
On 04/25/2014 05:06 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Just my 2 cents worth, which may or may not help. As I understand the way Thunderbird works, the mail files in your profile directory that Thunderbird uses are defined in the Local directory text box in the Message Storage section at the bottom of your Sever Settings in your Account Definition, which unfortunately as far as I am aware doesn't support multiple directories. ...because it doesn't need to. On my desktop computer, all of the mailboxes are stored in /home/joe/.thunderbird/ywhu7a5g.default/Mail/Local Folders, and the name of the default profile varies from one person to another. In order to have your old mail folders show up, start off by closing Thunderbird. Then, copy all of the mailbox files and their indexes (the .msf files) into that directory. When you restart T'bird, they'll be available. I know, because I use this to move saved emails from my laptop to my desktop whenever I've been away from home and had anything that needed to be available at home. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
Joe Zeff writes: On 04/25/2014 04:36 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: And this is at a relatively slack time. I'm not noticing impaired performance right now: [root@munich]/etc/ejabberd# free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 3254 3128125 1 9151 -/+ buffers/cache: 2967286 Swap: 9486 5032 4454 I've always disliked throwing somebody else's money at a problem, but I do have to ask: is it practical for you to upgrade your RAM? If your computer can handle more than 4GB and you don't want to do a complete re-install to go to a 64-bit system, you can always do what I did: install a PAE kernel (if you don't already have one) because that allows a 32-bit system to access up to 64 BG of RAM. The process is quite simple and I'd be glad to walk you through it if and when you need it. It's already a 64-bit system. I am hoping and expecting to be able to increase the RAM later this year. But I can't, yet: It's a dedicated server in Munich that I'm renting month-to-month and I have to be able to swing the rent. ;-) -- David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you do not understand the attachment. pgpv9PEQMQOI7.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SOLVED: Thunderbird can't read Mail
Hi Mickey, Just my 2 cents worth, which may or may not help. As I understand the way Thunderbird works, the mail files in your profile directory that Thunderbird uses are defined in the Local directory text box in the Message Storage section at the bottom of your Sever Settings in your Account Definition, which unfortunately as far as I am aware doesn't support multiple directories. You should be able to set up a new account definition for your mail isp to use the second mail directory and configure that account definition to not retrieve emails from your ISP's server, which will then provide you with access to those mails from that account definition down the left hand side, and it should also never fetch any new emails. This is similar to what I did when I changed distributions and just reused the thunderbird mail directory, and what I did when I configured my Thunderbird to be able to access my wife's mail directory which is on the same pc. regards, Steve On 04/26/2014 02:31 AM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 12:00 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 04/25/2014 11:36 AM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 11:18 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 08:31 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 06:45 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2014 10:23 PM, Mickey wrote: Local Folders Local Folders-1 mail.comcast-1.net mail.comcast.net smart.mailboxes did you try under edit-account settings , comcast account, click on server settings. down at the bottom, point it to you mail.comcast.net folder Under accountsettings in Server setting I changed it to read the "mail.comcast.net" and now I can read the old Emails . Why does it not display both Email files on the left column of the Thunderbird Browser ? I guess I will just delete what few emails i have in ; "mail.comcast-1.net" and use the "mail.comcast.net" Thanks guys for your Help. <>-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
On 04/25/2014 04:36 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: And this is at a relatively slack time. I'm not noticing impaired performance right now: [root@munich]/etc/ejabberd# free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 3254 3128125 1 9151 -/+ buffers/cache: 2967286 Swap: 9486 5032 4454 I've always disliked throwing somebody else's money at a problem, but I do have to ask: is it practical for you to upgrade your RAM? If your computer can handle more than 4GB and you don't want to do a complete re-install to go to a 64-bit system, you can always do what I did: install a PAE kernel (if you don't already have one) because that allows a 32-bit system to access up to 64 BG of RAM. The process is quite simple and I'd be glad to walk you through it if and when you need it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
Joe Zeff writes: On 04/25/2014 02:15 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: To me, the idea of sticking /tmp in RAM is absolutely bizarre. And the fact that it can be swapped is no help: It's one more thing to swap. I want *less* swapping, not more. How much swapping is your system doing? Give us the results of free -m so that we can get an idea how bad things are. And this is at a relatively slack time. I'm not noticing impaired performance right now: [root@munich]/etc/ejabberd# free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 3254 3128125 1 9151 -/+ buffers/cache: 2967286 Swap: 9486 5032 4454 -- David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you do not understand the attachment. pgpCx4rUjxTt0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
On 04/25/2014 02:15 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: To me, the idea of sticking /tmp in RAM is absolutely bizarre. And the fact that it can be swapped is no help: It's one more thing to swap. I want *less* swapping, not more. How much swapping is your system doing? Give us the results of free -m so that we can get an idea how bad things are. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 24 April 2014, Rick Stevens sent: Also note that by default, /tmp is now a tmpfs (RAMdisk) thing, so any info in /tmp will NOT survive a reboot. What happens when you run out of RAM? Could that be the cause of /tmp being prematurely wiped out? Probably not. OP says that files are removed after an hour like clockwork.:wq -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
Justin Brown writes: David, This doesn't make sense. Tmpfs can be swapped out, so you're gaining absolutely nothing and taking on a development and maintenance burden. IO for /tmp would have to come from disk when using tmpfs (in the case of heavy swapping) or a traditional file system either way. In the end, we're probably talking about 1MiB combined between the 4 tmpfs file systems on Fedora. It doesn't have to make sense to you. To me, the idea of sticking /tmp in RAM is absolutely bizarre. And the fact that it can be swapped is no help: It's one more thing to swap. I want *less* swapping, not more. -- David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you do not understand the attachment. pgpVW0rwrnof1.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
David, This doesn't make sense. Tmpfs can be swapped out, so you're gaining absolutely nothing and taking on a development and maintenance burden. IO for /tmp would have to come from disk when using tmpfs (in the case of heavy swapping) or a traditional file system either way. In the end, we're probably talking about 1MiB combined between the 4 tmpfs file systems on Fedora. On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 1:47 PM, wrote: > Justin Brown writes: > >> 50% >> is just the absolute maximum that can be used, and it's a default >> which can be controlled via mount option (or >> /lib/systemd/system/tmp.mount Options=size=... with systemd). > > > Thank you for telling me what to kill. > > I have way too much trouble with my systems being swap-bound to tolerate any > allocation of the sort. > > > -- > David Benfell > See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you do not understand the > attachment. > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
Justin Brown writes: 50% is just the absolute maximum that can be used, and it's a default which can be controlled via mount option (or /lib/systemd/system/tmp.mount Options=size=... with systemd). Thank you for telling me what to kill. I have way too much trouble with my systems being swap-bound to tolerate any allocation of the sort. -- David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you do not understand the attachment. pgpdRuS9YchXg.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
> To mandate RAM allocation in this way will take many people, including > myself, by surprise. It's been this way on Fedora for over two years (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmpfs). Most other new distributions do it, too. From that feature page, "Solaris has been doing this since 1994. (Much like other Unixes, too.) Debian's next release defaults to tmpfs on /tmp, too. ArchLinux defaults to this as well. Ubuntu has plans for their 12.10 release." There's basically no disagreement about it among the distributions. > 50% of RAM is a *lot* of RAM, with serious performance impacts, and I do not > do this on my systems. You know that it's not a static allocation, right? If you're only using a few KB of /tmp, the file system is only consume a few KB. 50% is just the absolute maximum that can be used, and it's a default which can be controlled via mount option (or /lib/systemd/system/tmp.mount Options=size=... with systemd). I think you should do some investigation on how tmpfs works, and the benefits of this configuration before jumping to incorrect conclusions. On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:51 PM, wrote: > Justin Brown writes: > >> Complaints about this >> sort of thing are either a failure of the user or software developer >> to keep up to date on the file system standards. > > > My understanding was that file system hierarchy was supposed to be about how > files are arranged so that they would be consistent across distributions. It > should not be about whether we put file systems in RAM or on RAID or on any > particular medium. > > To mandate RAM allocation in this way will take many people, including > myself, by surprise. For many users, 50% of RAM is a *lot* of RAM, with > serious performance impacts, and I do not do this on my systems. > > > -- > David Benfell > See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you do not understand the > attachment. > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
Justin Brown writes: Complaints about this sort of thing are either a failure of the user or software developer to keep up to date on the file system standards. My understanding was that file system hierarchy was supposed to be about how files are arranged so that they would be consistent across distributions. It should not be about whether we put file systems in RAM or on RAID or on any particular medium. To mandate RAM allocation in this way will take many people, including myself, by surprise. For many users, 50% of RAM is a *lot* of RAM, with serious performance impacts, and I do not do this on my systems. -- David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you do not understand the attachment. pgpOtwBBI4hv4.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
> IMHO using a tmpfs for /tmp is a spectacularly stupid thing to do. How it got > by the vetting process is beyond me. There shouldn't be anything that uses anything beyond a negligible amount of storage. Remember that there is no guarantee that /tmp data is preserved between invocations. Why would there ever be a significant amount of data stored there? From two F20 systems: for i in $(mount -l | grep '^tmpfs' | grep -o '/[^ ]*'); do sudo du -hs $i; done Server: 0 /dev/shm 720K /run 0 /sys/fs/cgroup 0 /tmp Workstation: 3.8M /dev/shm 1.1M /run 0 /sys/fs/cgroup 652K /tmp There are a number of locations for temporary files, which provide different features. /tmp is on tmpfs because the FSH standard defines that directory as so transitory that it shouldn't matter. For those that don't want to use tmpfs, use /var/tmp/. Complaints about this sort of thing are either a failure of the user or software developer to keep up to date on the file system standards. On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 04/25/2014 06:05 AM, Tim issued this missive: > >> Allegedly, on or about 24 April 2014, Rick Stevens sent: >>> >>> Also note that by default, /tmp is now a tmpfs (RAMdisk) thing, so any >>> info in /tmp will NOT survive a reboot. >> >> >> What happens when you run out of RAM? Could that be the cause of /tmp >> being prematurely wiped out? > > > No, but IIRC the tmpfs filesystem created and mounted on /tmp is 50% > of your system RAM. Once that is committed, it's done. It won't use up > all of your RAM and /tmp won't get any bigger than that, but then again > half of your available RAM is no longer available for program usage. > > IMHO using a tmpfs for /tmp is a spectacularly stupid thing to do. How > it got by the vetting process is beyond me. > > -- > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - > - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - > -- > -Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers- > -- > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
Rick Stevens writes: IMHO using a tmpfs for /tmp is a spectacularly stupid thing to do. How it got by the vetting process is beyond me. I agree. A number of distributions are doing it, however. If you have lots of RAM, I guess it's okay, and it certainly would be faster for /tmp access. -- David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you do not understand the attachment. pgp6YdOGl5dep.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
On 04/25/2014 06:05 AM, Tim issued this missive: Allegedly, on or about 24 April 2014, Rick Stevens sent: Also note that by default, /tmp is now a tmpfs (RAMdisk) thing, so any info in /tmp will NOT survive a reboot. What happens when you run out of RAM? Could that be the cause of /tmp being prematurely wiped out? No, but IIRC the tmpfs filesystem created and mounted on /tmp is 50% of your system RAM. Once that is committed, it's done. It won't use up all of your RAM and /tmp won't get any bigger than that, but then again half of your available RAM is no longer available for program usage. IMHO using a tmpfs for /tmp is a spectacularly stupid thing to do. How it got by the vetting process is beyond me. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers- -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
SOLVED: Thunderbird can't read Mail
On 04/25/2014 12:00 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 04/25/2014 11:36 AM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 11:18 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 08:31 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 06:45 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2014 10:23 PM, Mickey wrote: Local Folders Local Folders-1 mail.comcast-1.net mail.comcast.net smart.mailboxes did you try under edit-account settings , comcast account, click on server settings. down at the bottom, point it to you mail.comcast.net folder Under accountsettings in Server setting I changed it to read the "mail.comcast.net" and now I can read the old Emails . Why does it not display both Email files on the left column of the Thunderbird Browser ? I guess I will just delete what few emails i have in ; "mail.comcast-1.net" and use the "mail.comcast.net" Thanks guys for your Help. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail
On 04/25/2014 11:36 AM, Mickey wrote: > > On 04/25/2014 11:18 AM, Jatin K wrote: >> On Friday 25 April 2014 08:31 PM, Mickey wrote: >>> >>> On 04/25/2014 06:45 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: > > On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: >> On Thursday 24 April 2014 10:23 PM, Mickey wrote: >>> Local Folders >>> Local Folders-1 >>> mail.comcast-1.net >>> mail.comcast.net >>> smart.mailboxes >> did you try under edit-account settings , comcast account, click on server settings. down at the bottom, point it to you mail.comcast.net folder -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail
On 04/25/2014 11:43 AM, Arthur Dent wrote: On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 11:36 -0400, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 11:18 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 08:31 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 06:45 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2014 10:23 PM, Mickey wrote: Local Folders Local Folders-1 mail.comcast-1.net mail.comcast.net smart.mailboxes it looks ok, is there any permission issues on mail folder or its contents , ...? will you check that ...?? drwxrwxr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 7 12:01 Local Folders drwxr-xr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 23 17:59 Local Folders-1 drwxr-xr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 23 18:00 mail.comcast-1.net drwxrwxr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 20 15:13 mail.comcast.net drwxrwxr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Nov 14 2011 smart mailboxes SELinux? ls -laZ ~/.thunderbird ls -laZ ~/.thunderbird drwx--. mickey mickey unconfined_u:object_r:mozilla_home_t:s0 . drwx--. mickey mickey unconfined_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t:s0 .. drwx--. mickey mickey unconfined_u:object_r:mozilla_home_t:s0 Crash Reports drwx--. mickey mickey unconfined_u:object_r:mozilla_home_t:s0 kqe760mh.default -rw-rw-r--. mickey mickey unconfined_u:object_r:mozilla_home_t:s0 profiles.ini Thunderbird is not having any problems of reading new wmails " mail.comcast-1.net" it is having problems of reading or displaying old emails in "mail.comcast.net" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail
On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 11:36 -0400, Mickey wrote: > On 04/25/2014 11:18 AM, Jatin K wrote: > > On Friday 25 April 2014 08:31 PM, Mickey wrote: > >> > >> On 04/25/2014 06:45 AM, Jatin K wrote: > >>> On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: > > On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: > > On Thursday 24 April 2014 10:23 PM, Mickey wrote: > >> Local Folders > >> Local Folders-1 > >> mail.comcast-1.net > >> mail.comcast.net > >> smart.mailboxes > > > > it looks ok, is there any permission issues on mail folder or its > > contents , ...? > > > > will you check that ...?? > > > drwxrwxr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 7 12:01 Local Folders > drwxr-xr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 23 17:59 Local Folders-1 > drwxr-xr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 23 18:00 mail.comcast-1.net > drwxrwxr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 20 15:13 mail.comcast.net > drwxrwxr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Nov 14 2011 smart mailboxes SELinux? ls -laZ ~/.thunderbird -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail
On 04/25/2014 11:14 AM, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Am 25.04.2014 17:01, schrieb Mickey: ls -l ~/.thunderbird drwx--. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 22 17:28 Crash Reports drwx--. 5 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 25 05:27 kqe760mh.default -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey 94 Apr 22 17:28 profiles.ini Below is the profile.ini files .thunderbird/profies.ini [General] StartWithLastProfile=1 [Profile0] Name=default IsRelative=1 Path=kqe760mh.default Below is the /Mail folder , the "mail.comcast-1.net" has the new messages which I can read. The "mail.comcast.net" folder has the old emails they are the ones I bought over from F18, and Thunderbird IS NOT Displaying Those so I can not read them. .thunderbird/kqe760mh.default/Mail/ Local Folders Local Folders-1 mail.comcast-1.net mail.comcast.net smart.mailboxes Just a shot in the dark (I had a similar problem when migrating TB from one install to another): What about permissions of the directory that you brought over from F18? Perhaps TB can't access it. Klaus kqe760mh.default]$ ls -l total 21940 -rwxrwxrwx. 1 mickey mickey44294 Apr 25 11:36 abook.mab -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 524288 Apr 12 00:16 addons.sqlite drwxrwxr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 22 17:45 Backup -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 524288 Sep 1 2012 blist.sqlite -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey81791 Apr 24 17:48 blocklist.xml -rw---. 1 mickey mickey1 Nov 12 13:12 _CACHE_CLEAN_ -rw---. 1 mickey mickey 180224 Apr 24 21:38 cert8.db -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey98304 Jun 15 2012 chromeappsstore.sqlite -rw---. 1 mickey mickey 159 Apr 22 17:46 compatibility.ini -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 229376 Nov 3 11:57 content-prefs.sqlite -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 524288 Apr 24 21:38 cookies.sqlite -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey32768 Apr 25 05:21 cookies.sqlite-shm -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey32824 Apr 25 05:21 cookies.sqlite-wal -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey 36 Apr 23 18:21 directoryTree.json -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey98304 Apr 22 19:28 downloads.sqlite -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 214 Jan 11 23:29 extensions.ini -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 458752 Apr 11 13:15 extensions.sqlite -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 328272 Apr 11 13:15 extensions.sqlite-journal -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey 97 Apr 24 21:38 folderTree.json -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 196608 Nov 12 18:09 formhistory.sqlite -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 1245184 Oct 4 2013 global-messages-db.sqlite -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey16699 Apr 24 20:00 history.mab -rw---. 1 mickey mickey16384 Apr 24 21:38 key3.db -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey16752 Apr 25 05:27 localstore.rdf lrwxrwxrwx. 1 mickey mickey 16 Apr 25 05:21 lock -> 127.0.0.1:+31538 drwxrwxr-x. 7 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 24 19:35 Mail -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 482 Nov 15 2011 mailViews.dat -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey 4088 Nov 23 2012 mimeTypes.rdf drwx--. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 22 17:28 minidumps -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey11023 Apr 25 11:37 panacea.dat -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey65536 Apr 24 17:48 permissions.sqlite -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 10485760 Apr 22 20:28 places.sqlite -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey32768 Apr 25 05:21 places.sqlite-shm -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey0 Apr 25 05:21 places.sqlite-wal -rw---. 1 mickey mickey 344 Apr 22 17:48 pluginreg.dat -rw---. 1 mickey mickey16697 Jan 18 2012 prefs-1.js -rw---. 1 mickey mickey16714 Mar 13 2012 prefs-2.js -rw---. 1 mickey mickey17333 Aug 13 2012 prefs-3.js -rw---. 1 mickey mickey0 Nov 17 2012 prefs-4.js -rw---. 1 mickey mickey 8030 Apr 24 20:35 prefs.js -rw---. 1 mickey mickey 9764 Apr 25 05:25 search.json -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey2 Jul 25 2012 search-metadata.json -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey65536 Feb 12 2012 search.sqlite -rw---. 1 mickey mickey16384 Nov 15 2011 secmod.db -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey 383 Apr 25 05:26 session.json -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 327680 Dec 19 18:52 signons.sqlite -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 1244535 Apr 11 12:33 TestPilotErrorLog.log -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey19789 Apr 24 19:43 training.dat -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey8 Apr 24 19:43 traits.dat -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 5242880 Nov 15 2011 urlclassifier3.sqlite -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 24 Dec 25 2011 urlclassifier.pset -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey 10 Dec 31 2012 virtualFolders-1.dat -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey 10 Mar 14 2013 virtualFolders-2.dat -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey 10 Apr 24 21:38 virtualFolders.dat -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey98304 Nov 12 13:21 webappsstore.sqlite -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey32768 Apr 25 05:21 webappsstore.sqlite-shm -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey0 Apr 25 05:21 webappsstore.sqlite-wal -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of C
Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail
On 04/25/2014 11:18 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 08:31 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 06:45 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2014 10:23 PM, Mickey wrote: Local Folders Local Folders-1 mail.comcast-1.net mail.comcast.net smart.mailboxes it looks ok, is there any permission issues on mail folder or its contents , ...? will you check that ...?? drwxrwxr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 7 12:01 Local Folders drwxr-xr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 23 17:59 Local Folders-1 drwxr-xr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 23 18:00 mail.comcast-1.net drwxrwxr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 20 15:13 mail.comcast.net drwxrwxr-x. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Nov 14 2011 smart mailboxes -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail
On Friday 25 April 2014 08:31 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 06:45 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2014 10:23 PM, Mickey wrote: Local Folders Local Folders-1 mail.comcast-1.net mail.comcast.net smart.mailboxes it looks ok, is there any permission issues on mail folder or its contents , ...? will you check that ...?? -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Jatin Khatri RHCSA,RHCE,CCNA,MCP Registerd Linux user No #501175 www.linuxcounter.net No M$ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 Where's my system mail? SOLVED (I Hope)
On 04/16/2014 09:31 AM, Arthur Dent wrote: > Hello all, With what (I hope) will be my final update on this issue. > > This machine is a simple home server. It runs headless and is on 24/7. I an > in the habit running yum update once per month and only then rebooting (and > only then because the yum update usually brings down a new kernel). I long > ago left the Windows world where a reboot was required for - well everything > really. Since this is a new install however I had rebooted a few more times > than normal, but the last one was a few days ago. > > Last night (more in desperation than anything else) I rebooted. > > Today - Cron emails! > > I am very sorry for wasting everyone's time. I have no idea what the problem > was or why a reboot solved it - some environment variable perhaps? Sendmail is like that. This doesn't happen very often today, but in the past people sometimes received messages that had been sent to them months (if not years) before. What had happened was that a mail process had crashed leaving things in a bad state. The server was later rebooted, sendmail saw all the mails, and started to deliver them. It must have been distressing to receive an old message from an estranged partner or someone who had died. Andrew. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail
Am 25.04.2014 17:01, schrieb Mickey: ls -l ~/.thunderbird drwx--. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 22 17:28 Crash Reports drwx--. 5 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 25 05:27 kqe760mh.default -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey 94 Apr 22 17:28 profiles.ini Below is the profile.ini files .thunderbird/profies.ini [General] StartWithLastProfile=1 [Profile0] Name=default IsRelative=1 Path=kqe760mh.default Below is the /Mail folder , the "mail.comcast-1.net" has the new messages which I can read. The "mail.comcast.net" folder has the old emails they are the ones I bought over from F18, and Thunderbird IS NOT Displaying Those so I can not read them. .thunderbird/kqe760mh.default/Mail/ Local Folders Local Folders-1 mail.comcast-1.net mail.comcast.net smart.mailboxes Just a shot in the dark (I had a similar problem when migrating TB from one install to another): What about permissions of the directory that you brought over from F18? Perhaps TB can't access it. Klaus -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail
On 04/25/2014 06:45 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2014 10:23 PM, Mickey wrote: accordingly HOW !! ? An What ? go to ur ~/.thunderbird directory, two file should be there [1],[2] [1] sometext.default [2] profiles.ini I've these two files in my home folder 1, 4obtszbr.default 2, profiles.ini following is the content of the profile.ini ( it can be opened in gedit or vi,nano) [General] StartWithLastProfile=1 [Profile0] Name=default IsRelative=1 Path=4obtszbr.default you see that last line, it should be matching to your profile folder ( here it is "4obtszbr.default" ) are you getting what I mean to say , if not then please post out put of following 2 commands [1] ls -l ~/.thunderbird [2] cat ~/.thunderbird/profiles.ini Regards ls -l ~/.thunderbird drwx--. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 22 17:28 Crash Reports drwx--. 5 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 25 05:27 kqe760mh.default -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey 94 Apr 22 17:28 profiles.ini Below is the profile.ini files .thunderbird/profies.ini [General] StartWithLastProfile=1 [Profile0] Name=default IsRelative=1 Path=kqe760mh.default Below is the /Mail folder , the "mail.comcast-1.net" has the new messages which I can read. The "mail.comcast.net" folder has the old emails they are the ones I bought over from F18, and Thunderbird IS NOT Displaying Those so I can not read them. .thunderbird/kqe760mh.default/Mail/ Local Folders Local Folders-1 mail.comcast-1.net mail.comcast.net smart.mailboxes -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp
Allegedly, on or about 24 April 2014, Rick Stevens sent: > Also note that by default, /tmp is now a tmpfs (RAMdisk) thing, so any > info in /tmp will NOT survive a reboot. What happens when you run out of RAM? Could that be the cause of /tmp being prematurely wiped out? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. Grrr, Gnome 3 shite... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Two SELinux-related things
On 04/24/2014 04:56 PM, Mark Brader wrote: >> # semanage fcontext -a -e /home /u >> # restorecon -R -v /u >> >> Should fix you up. > Bingo. Thanks for your time. > > I did wonder if this was the cause of the problem, but (1) it didn't happen > with the previous Linux configuration I had, and (2) I actually write > remounting the filesystem as /home before I wrote to you. But (I now > realize) I left /u as a symlink to /home instead of changing my actual > home directory, so that didn't cover it. > > > This still leaves me with two questions. > > [1] What about the way the message from SELinux failed to name a > directory? That made it impossible for me to see what was actually > going on. It seems to me like a bug in the alert reporting. http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/34903.html?thread=220247 > [2] How do I reach the fedora-devel people you mentioned, to ask them > my other question? Just send a question to the Community support for Fedora users list and with information about what you are trying to do, meantion SELinux in the message or CC me, and I will follow the discussion. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
System start halts due to Nvidia drivers
Followed this guide after clean install of Fedora. When I restart the system it hangs at the "started accounts service". I figure this is due to the newly installed nvidia drivers. Where did I go wrong? I read somewhere that maybe the driver for that particular kernel version was not ready? http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2014/fedora-20-nvidia-guide/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail
On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2014 10:23 PM, Mickey wrote: accordingly HOW !! ? An What ? go to ur ~/.thunderbird directory, two file should be there [1],[2] [1] sometext.default [2] profiles.ini I've these two files in my home folder 1, 4obtszbr.default 2, profiles.ini following is the content of the profile.ini ( it can be opened in gedit or vi,nano) [General] StartWithLastProfile=1 [Profile0] Name=default IsRelative=1 Path=4obtszbr.default you see that last line, it should be matching to your profile folder ( here it is "4obtszbr.default" ) are you getting what I mean to say , if not then please post out put of following 2 commands [1] ls -l ~/.thunderbird [2] cat ~/.thunderbird/profiles.ini Regards -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Jatin Khatri RHCSA,RHCE,CCNA Registerd Linux user No #501175 www.linuxcounter.net No M$ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail
On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2014 10:23 PM, Mickey wrote: Installed Fedora 20 from Fedora 18. fresh install. Moved old email Mail Folder from F18 .thunderbird and puts all of the contents fom old email into F20 .thunderbird. I can see from File Manager that the OLD Emails are in the .thunderbird/Mail folder, but How do I get Thunderbird to display those old emails ? I'm connected to my ISP and can download new Emails. you need to change profile.ini accordingly regards accordingly HOW !! ? An What ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
