Fedora 20 shutdown

2014-04-27 Thread Roger
I have just Fedup'd Fedora 19 to F20 on a Dell 1520 laptop and it works 
well, took about 4 hours to complete still has the same php error 
message about /usr/lib64/pdo-mysql.so but all works well.


There seems to be no way to shut own the system other than going to a 
terminal and entering shutdown as root.
I vaguely remember other Fedora versions had the same thing and we had 
to install some app to provide the shut down menu.
What is that has to be installed to get a shut down in Fedora 20 please? 
Why would a shut down or reboot menu be missing? Some folks do still 
switch off for the night or while they are away. Puzzling.

TIA
Roger


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Re: system-config-services

2014-04-27 Thread Edward M

On 4/27/2014 5:15 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 04/28/14 07:15, Edward M wrote:

I believe system-config-services is obsolete because of systemd is the 
default,  install systemd-ui from the repos.

[root@meimei ~]# rpm -q system-config-services
system-config-services-0.111.1-1.fc20.noarch

Would suggest it isn't obsolete.

Unlike

[root@meimei ~]# rpm -q system-config-lvm
system-config-lvm-1.1.18-1.fc18.noarch

Which remains on my system since it has been upgraded via "fedup".


 Hello,

   oh my, my  narcissistic personality disorder is not going to let 
me accept I'm wrong that easily;-)


seriously, thank your for  confirming it is not obsolete. 
better update my notes.



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Re: system-config-services

2014-04-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/28/14 07:15, Edward M wrote:
>I believe system-config-services is obsolete because of systemd is the 
> default,  install systemd-ui from the repos. 

[root@meimei ~]# rpm -q system-config-services
system-config-services-0.111.1-1.fc20.noarch

Would suggest it isn't obsolete.

Unlike

[root@meimei ~]# rpm -q system-config-lvm
system-config-lvm-1.1.18-1.fc18.noarch

Which remains on my system since it has been upgraded via "fedup".

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system-config-lvm

2014-04-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello

The package system-config-lvm
disappeared since fedora 18.
Is there a reason?
I new packag replace it?

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Re: system-config-services

2014-04-27 Thread Edward M

On 4/27/2014 3:31 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

I do not know waht is going on.

I get the permanent error messages,
I rebooted seveal times but is it still there.!!
fedora 20 last update


system-config-services &ERROR:dbus.connection:Exception in handler for D-Bus 
signal:
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 230, in 
maybe_handle_message
 self._handler(*args, **kwargs)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/scservices/core/systemd/manager.py", 
line 101, in on_unit_new
 new_unit = SystemDUnit(self, unit_id, unit_path)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/scservices/core/systemd/unit.py", 
line 102, in __init__
 self.bus_path)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 241, in get_object
 follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 248, in 
__init__
 self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 175, in 
activate_name_owner
 return self.get_name_owner(bus_name)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 361, in 
get_name_owner
 's', (bus_name,), **keywords)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 651, in 
call_blocking
 message, timeout)
DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. 
Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the 
message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or 
the network connection was broke
   I believe system-config-services is obsolete because of systemd 
is the default,  install systemd-ui from the repos.

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system-config-services

2014-04-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,

I do not know waht is going on.

I get the permanent error messages,
I rebooted seveal times but is it still there.!!
fedora 20 last update


system-config-services &ERROR:dbus.connection:Exception in handler for D-Bus 
signal:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 230, in 
maybe_handle_message
    self._handler(*args, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/scservices/core/systemd/manager.py", 
line 101, in on_unit_new
    new_unit = SystemDUnit(self, unit_id, unit_path)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/scservices/core/systemd/unit.py", line 
102, in __init__
    self.bus_path)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 241, in get_object
    follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 248, in __init__
    self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 175, in 
activate_name_owner
    return self.get_name_owner(bus_name)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 361, in 
get_name_owner
    's', (bus_name,), **keywords)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 651, in 
call_blocking
    message, timeout)
DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. 
Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the 
message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or 
the network connection was broken.


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Re: su

2014-04-27 Thread Edward M

On 4/27/2014 2:32 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

After I changed the password, the glitch disappeared!!


 Did you try logging out, rebooting the system, to verify "su" 
still functions properly?

if not, it may be a bug, if every settings are correct.
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Re: su

2014-04-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
After I changed the password, the glitch disappeared!!

> Subject: Re: su
> 
> On 4/27/2014 4:45 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > After a fresh installation of fedora 20, I can only log 1 time as a su.
> > After, it is refused for authentification error!
> 
> 
>  Sounds like a SUID issue. verify if SUID is set for "su" to run 
> with root privileges for common users.
> 
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Re: Flashplugin for Chrome ??

2014-04-27 Thread Stephen Morris

Hi Ed,
Thankyou, that worked great. The 4th plugin appears to be the Adobe 
installer installing a version into the chrome plugin directory (I 
should have expected this).


regards,
Steve

On 04/27/2014 12:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 04/27/14 09:02, Stephen Morris wrote:
Just as a side issue to this, how do you get chrome to provide 
what you have shown?
I know chrome has flash built in, and the adobe installer 
installs the plugin in /usr/lib64, plus I have a link to the adobe 
plugin in /usr/lib because the upstream 64-bit Firefox wants its 
plugins in /usr/lib, what I can't account for is the 4th plugin.
If I use chrome://plugins in the browser I get the following 
display (the following display is how the chrome output is 
represented in Thunderbird as a result of a copy and paste, not how 
it is displayed in chrome):


Adobe Flash Player(4 files)-Version:13.0.0.182
Shockwave Flash 13.0 r0



If you look at the very top line you should seeover in the right 
hand side "+Details".  Click on that to expand the list.


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Re: su

2014-04-27 Thread Edward M

On 4/27/2014 4:45 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

After a fresh installation of fedora 20, I can only log 1 time as a su.
After, it is refused for authentification error!



Sounds like a SUID issue. verify if SUID is set for "su" to run 
with root privileges for common users.




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Re: su

2014-04-27 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 4-27-14 13:45:43 Patrick Dupre wrote:
> After a fresh installation of fedora 20, I can only log 1 time as a
> su.  After, it is refused for authentification error!

It might help to see actual error messages.

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Re: su

2014-04-27 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2014-04-27 at 13:45 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> After a fresh installation of fedora 20, I can only log 1 time as a
> su. After, it is refused for authentification error!

Doesn't happen here.  Though I have done yum updates since the install,
a few days ago.  But I don't recall any problems with doing "su" before
I did the updates.  No su run-around  Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

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Re: su

2014-04-27 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 04/27/14 07:45, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> After a fresh installation of fedora 20, I can only log 1 time as a su.
> After, it is refused for authentification error!
> 
> 
> 
>  Patrick DUPRÉ  

Maybe a dumb question but, what did you do during the first time that
you were logged in as SU?

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Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-27 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 4-26-14 09:43:41 Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 26.04.2014, Garry T. Williams wrote:
> > That's not true.  Swap will come into play and unreferenced data
> > in the /tmp files will be paged out in favor of claiming that
> > memory for other uses.
>
> Did you actually try?
>
>  [htd@kiera ~]$ dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/bigfile bs=1M count=3000
>  dd: error writing ‘/tmp/bigfile’: No space left on device
>  2048+0 records in
>  2047+0 records out
>  2147450880 bytes (2.1 GB) copied, 0.920556 s, 2.3 GB/s
>
>  [htd@kiera ~]$ free -m
>   total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
>  Mem:  3745   1562   2183  0  0773
>  -/+ buffers/cache:787   2957
>  Swap: 8191  0   8191
>
> I have 4 GB of memory in my machine, and mount defaults to
> "size=50%" (= 2GB). I have been running /tmp as a tmpfs a long time,
> because the harddisk is a SSD. What happens can you see above: it
> creates a 2 GB file and aborts for the next 1 GB. The machine has 8
> GB of swap, and nothing of it was used.

When another process requires memory in excess of what is immediately
available, the unreferenced file(s) in /tmp can be paged out to
accommodate the request.  If memory pressure is absent, no paging will
occur.  There is no pressure here.

(I only wanted to correct the claim that placing files in /tmp would
encumber main memory to the detriment of other processes.  That is not
so as long as the system can page out unneeded memory.)

> Disclaimer: this is not a rant against having /tmp using tmpfs. I'm
> aware of the limitations, and have only encountered positive
> experiences so far.

This is my experience, too.

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Re: Fedup issue with thunderbird

2014-04-27 Thread linuxnutster

On 04/23/2014 08:48 AM, Steven Stern wrote:

On 04/23/2014 06:40 AM, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:

I upgraded to fedora 20 from fedora 19 using fedup. Everything went well
except for some weird issues with Thunderbird. The latter is now giving
me a pile of weird permission errors and disk space errors. There is
215GB free space, so I know that is not the problem. Obviously this has
somethign to do with the permissions on the .thunderbird folder, but I
do not have the knoweldge to rectify the problem. Could somebody kindly
nudge me in the right direction?

Thanks!


$ ls -ldZ .thunderbird
drwxr-xr-x. sdstern sdstern system_u:object_r:mozilla_home_t:s0 .thunderbird

This suggest that there may be problems if you have quotas enabled


http://superuser.com/questions/629914/howto-deal-with-the-there-is-not-enough-disk-space-to-download-messages-error




H... thanks for the heads-up. This seems to be something worthy of 
investigation. I'm about to use fedup on my laptop. It will be 
interesting to see what happens.

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Re: Fedup issue with thunderbird

2014-04-27 Thread linuxnutster

On 04/23/2014 08:51 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 04/23/14 19:40, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:

I upgraded to fedora 20 from fedora 19 using fedup. Everything went well except 
for some weird issues with Thunderbird. The latter is now giving me a pile of 
weird permission errors and disk space errors. There is 215GB free space, so I 
know that is not the problem. Obviously this has somethign to do with the 
permissions on the .thunderbird folder, but I do not have the knoweldge to 
rectify the problem. Could somebody kindly nudge me in the right direction?




Since fedup doesn't muck with user files, it is doubtful to be a permission 
issue on your ~/.thunderbird directory.  Everything under that directory will 
be owned by your username.  Certainly you can ensure that the files are owned 
by your username by doing

chown -R username:usergroup ~/.thunderbird(using the appropriate values)

You'd be much better served to actually post the actual error messages you are 
getting as opposed to people assuming what you're seeing and then making 
suggestions based on assumptions that may not be valid.




I checked the backup copy I made of .thunderbird before upgrading and 
the permissions were not the same. I then changed the permissions on the 
upgraded folder using info found on mozilla forums, etc... with no 
change. The solution seems to be to delete all the folders, sub-folders, 
and message filters and rebuild them. I also was extremely pressed for 
time, and sent in the email extremely quickly before I could include the 
exact message errors. I apologize for the omission(s).

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su

2014-04-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,

After a fresh installation of fedora 20, I can only log 1 time as a su.
After, it is refused for authentification error!


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Re: Coding Practice [was Re: Serious OpenSSL vulnerability]

2014-04-27 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 04/26/2014 04:35 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>>
>> Depending on what you don't like about current Fedoras, you might try
>> out the XFCE or Mate desktops. They provide an experience similar to
>> Gnome 2. If you have an old graphics card, you will want to use kdm or
>> lxdm instead of gdm.
> 
> If you pick Xfce, lightdm is probably your best choice, as it's the one
> you'd get if you did a clean install with Xfce as your only DM.  Using gdm
> pulls in a considerable amount of Gnome cruft, and kdm probably does the
> equivalent.

I wrote about Fedora use on servers in the context of Heartbleed bug.
On desktop, of course, I'm using Xfce now (as I was old Gnome 2 user)
and my friends (which not upgrade their own Fedora distras frequently
and then skipped the gap between Gnome 2 and Mate) are using Mate now.
With lightdm, because it has possibility to choice session language,
which option isn't in gdm (despite the gnome 3 ballast, as You type).
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Re: Coding Practice [was Re: Serious OpenSSL vulnerability]

2014-04-27 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 22:19:47 +0200,
>   Frantisek Hanzlik  wrote:
>>
>> I'm not SSL/TLS guru and I'm not in-deep study heartbeat OpenSSL bug
>> (mainly because I consider Fedora 15+ as too problematic and stay at
>> F14 with eventual migration to CentOS 6 on my servers, thus they aren't
>> affected with this bug), but - it is truth, that when private key is
>> stealed, this _always_ implied, that encrypted traffic may be read
>> with private key knowledge? As I know, when e.g. Diffie-Hellman key
>> exchanging is used, then either private key knowledge isn't sufficient
>> to decode network traffic. Of course, TLS RFCs give us some basic set
>> of mandatory ciphersuites which should know every TLS endpoint, and
>> there are also these, where private key knowledge is sufficient for
>> traffic decoding. But when at my side I allow e.g. (contrary to RFCs)
>> only DH ciphersuites, then maybe either I'm not able establish a
>> connection, or my connection is reliable - although connection is
>> tapped by someone, who keep my private key. Or am I wrong?
> 
> If you have the private key and can redirect network traffic you can do
> man in the middle attacks. If forward security isn't being provided then
> just being able to see the traffic can allow you to get session keys.

MITM I can do even without having victims private key, it is another
case. But what I want to say, that was that even private key knowledge
is not _always_ sufficient to decode TLS traffic (when I able see /
capture it).
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