[389-users] synchronize 389DS uid with userPrincipalName from Active Directory
Hi, We are currently using 389-DS as a LDAP server for our university (University Politehnica from Bucharest). Right now we have about 35000 accounts created into the 389-DS. We need to synchronize all the accounts with an Active Directory server for various purposes (Wifi authentication/e-mail authentication, etc). I've setup the 389-DS / Active Directory replication succesfully but we have a design problem: a very high number of users has the username (uid: field) larger than 20 characters and I can't pass this uid to the ntUserDomainId (which is equivelant with the sAMAccount in AD). Is there any way that I can populate the userPrincipalName with this uid? (which does not have the limit indicated above) Thank you in advance, Mihai -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] synchronize 389DS uid with userPrincipalName from Active Directory
On 07/22/2014 04:05 AM, Mihai Carabas wrote: Hi, We are currently using 389-DS as a LDAP server for our university (University Politehnica from Bucharest). Right now we have about 35000 accounts created into the 389-DS. We need to synchronize all the accounts with an Active Directory server for various purposes (Wifi authentication/e-mail authentication, etc). I've setup the 389-DS / Active Directory replication succesfully but we have a design problem: a very high number of users has the username (uid: field) larger than 20 characters and I can't pass this uid to the ntUserDomainId (which is equivelant with the sAMAccount in AD). Is there any way that I can populate the userPrincipalName with this uid? (which does not have the limit indicated above) Is the problem that the 389 uid attribute has values greater than 20 characters, and when windows sync adds these users to AD, it tries to write the uid value into the samAccountName field, and this is rejected because the samAccountName field does not allow more than 20 characters? So you want to instead write the uid attribute value to the userPrincipalName field? I think we would still need to write some value to samAccountName - what value should we use? Thank you in advance, Mihai -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] synchronize 389DS uid with userPrincipalName from Active Directory
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/22/2014 04:05 AM, Mihai Carabas wrote: Hi, We are currently using 389-DS as a LDAP server for our university (University Politehnica from Bucharest). Right now we have about 35000 accounts created into the 389-DS. We need to synchronize all the accounts with an Active Directory server for various purposes (Wifi authentication/e-mail authentication, etc). I've setup the 389-DS / Active Directory replication succesfully but we have a design problem: a very high number of users has the username (uid: field) larger than 20 characters and I can't pass this uid to the ntUserDomainId (which is equivelant with the sAMAccount in AD). Is there any way that I can populate the userPrincipalName with this uid? (which does not have the limit indicated above) Is the problem that the 389 uid attribute has values greater than 20 characters, and when windows sync adds these users to AD, it tries to write the uid value into the samAccountName field, and this is rejected because the samAccountName field does not allow more than 20 characters? So you Yes this is my main problem. If you have other suggestions/solutions they are welcome (we can't modify the usernames because these usernames are already used and stored by various applications in their own databases and we would create a chaos). want to instead write the uid attribute value to the userPrincipalName field? I think we would still need to write some value to samAccountName - what value should we use? I can generate a unique value for each of them, based on some other INFO (like personal number, date of birth). Thanks, Mihai -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] synchronize 389DS uid with userPrincipalName from Active Directory
On 07/22/2014 07:56 AM, Mihai Carabas wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/22/2014 04:05 AM, Mihai Carabas wrote: Hi, We are currently using 389-DS as a LDAP server for our university (University Politehnica from Bucharest). Right now we have about 35000 accounts created into the 389-DS. We need to synchronize all the accounts with an Active Directory server for various purposes (Wifi authentication/e-mail authentication, etc). I've setup the 389-DS / Active Directory replication succesfully but we have a design problem: a very high number of users has the username (uid: field) larger than 20 characters and I can't pass this uid to the ntUserDomainId (which is equivelant with the sAMAccount in AD). Is there any way that I can populate the userPrincipalName with this uid? (which does not have the limit indicated above) Is the problem that the 389 uid attribute has values greater than 20 characters, and when windows sync adds these users to AD, it tries to write the uid value into the samAccountName field, and this is rejected because the samAccountName field does not allow more than 20 characters? So you Yes this is my main problem. If you have other suggestions/solutions they are welcome (we can't modify the usernames because these usernames are already used and stored by various applications in their own databases and we would create a chaos). I don't think it is possible to solve this problem currently. Please file a ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/389/newticket want to instead write the uid attribute value to the userPrincipalName field? I think we would still need to write some value to samAccountName - what value should we use? I can generate a unique value for each of them, based on some other INFO (like personal number, date of birth). Thanks, Mihai -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] synchronize 389DS uid with userPrincipalName from Active Directory
I don't think it is possible to solve this problem currently. Please file a ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/389/newticket I opened a ticket [1] Thanks, Mihai [1] https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47864 -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
[389-users] DS SSL cfg
Hello List, I would like to know if DS can be cfg for TLS/SSL + CA connections later one or must to be done at installation time ? Isabella -- - -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] DS SSL cfg
On 07/22/2014 03:17 PM, Isabella Ghiurea wrote: Hello List, I would like to know if DS can be cfg for TLS/SSL + CA connections later one or must to be done at installation time ? Later on. Set up without TLS/SSL, then configure later. https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Directory_Server/9.0/html/Administration_Guide/SecureConnections.html Isabella -- - -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: color display with man pages
Thank you Jatin. I knew 'most' would work. It is able to display colours as well. But I am used to 'less' and its key bindings. I am quite puzzled as why the termcap settings for less don't work in Fedora20. Do you have any explanations?? Just a few hours ago I installed CentOS 7 and it worked fine there too with KDE. Do you know any sort of workaround to this problem?? On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Jatin K ssh.fed...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 21 July 2014 11:42 PM, Amila Perera wrote: Hi all, This is my first mail on fedora mailing list. I can't get the following to display colours with LESS command on my terminal, when viewing man pages. I am using Fedora 20 with KDE. My shell is zsh. --- man() { env LESS_TERMCAP_mb=$'\E[01;31m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_md=$'\E[01;34m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_me=$'\E[0m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_se=$'\E[0m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_so=$'\E[01;33;40m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_ue=$'\E[0m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_us=$'\E[01;04;35m' \ man $@ } have you tried most ..?? try following yum install most export PAGER=most or export PAGER=/usr/bin/most -s now try to viewing man for any command say man date Warm Regards -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Jatin Khatri RHCSA,RHCE,CCNA,MCP Registerd Linux user No #501175www.linuxcounter.net No M$ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- *Amila Perera.* -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: new kernels rebooting
On 21.07.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote: what is it I am symlinking?? the actual kernel?? If you need to: the root directory of the kernel source. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: new kernels rebooting
On 22.07.2014, Joe Zeff wrote: If you really need to put it on a spare partition, you can always move everything there from /usr/src and then mount that partition at /usr/src and go from there. And don't forget to take a look into /lib/modules and update the (now) incorrect symlinks to the build directory.. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: color display with man pages
Hi Amila, On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:42:23PM +0530, Amila Perera wrote: man() { env LESS_TERMCAP_mb=$'\E[01;31m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_md=$'\E[01;34m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_me=$'\E[0m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_se=$'\E[0m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_so=$'\E[01;33;40m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_ue=$'\E[0m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_us=$'\E[01;04;35m' \ man $@ } I tried with bash, it seems to work ... somewhat. I see a yellow status at the bottom, but otherwise I see a regular man page. When I `type man' after defining your function, I get a few colours among the variable definitions (blue, red, and underlined). Hope this helps, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: color display with man pages
On 07/22/2014 09:10 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Amila, On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:42:23PM +0530, Amila Perera wrote: man() { env LESS_TERMCAP_mb=$'\E[01;31m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_md=$'\E[01;34m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_me=$'\E[0m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_se=$'\E[0m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_so=$'\E[01;33;40m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_ue=$'\E[0m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_us=$'\E[01;04;35m' \ man $@ } I tried with bash, it seems to work ... somewhat. I see a yellow status at the bottom, but otherwise I see a regular man page. When I `type man' after defining your function, I get a few colours among the variable definitions (blue, red, and underlined). Hope this helps, Getting same here. But I have to agree Amila, that (at least) on Ubuntu 12.04 or on on Scientific Linux release 6.3 (Carbon) I get some more colors. Kind regards Joachim Backes -- Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug) Kernel-3.15.6-200.fc20.x86_64 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de http://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: color display with man pages
Thank you for your feedback. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: I tried with bash, it seems to work ... somewhat. I see a yellow status at the bottom, but otherwise I see a regular man page. When I `type man' after defining your function, I get a few colours among the variable definitions (blue, red, and underlined). Well, I only get the yellow status line color and some variables getting bold. I have never tried this with bash, though. -- *Amila Perera.* -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: color display with man pages
On Jul 22 13:37, Amila Perera wrote: Thank you for your feedback. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: I tried with bash, it seems to work ... somewhat. I see a yellow status at the bottom, but otherwise I see a regular man page. When I `type man' after defining your function, I get a few colours among the variable definitions (blue, red, and underlined). Well, I only get the yellow status line color and some variables getting bold. I have never tried this with bash, though. Try this additionally to setting the LESS_TERMCAP_xx vars: export GROFF_NO_SGR=yes Corinna -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: color display with man pages
Thanks a lot Corinna. The following setting did the trick for me. Now the output on Ubuntu Fedora looks the same. Thank you once again. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Corinna Vinschen fed...@cygwin.de wrote: Try this additionally to setting the LESS_TERMCAP_xx vars: export GROFF_NO_SGR=yes -- *Amila Perera.* -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NFS Performance Woes
On 22/07/14 02:39, Peter Skensved wrote: I've been using NFSv4 extensively for several years and I've not had an issue that you describe where everything is fine and then suddenly performance goes to hell in a hand basket. It sounds as if you only have 2 systems to work with? No, tiebreaker so to speak? Have you considered running a VM on your client system to see if it is affected in the same way? DNS problems can do it . Are your /etc/resolv.conf files correct ? You could try running your own nameserver ( dnsmasq ) if the upstream one is too slow or too busy. I'm fairly sure it's not DNS. I run a DNS server actually on the same server, which serves NFS exports with the only DNS server in resolv.conf being itself (over localhost). All clients point to that DNS server and only that one. It's authoritative for my home LAN and both forward and reverse lookups work and resolve correctly and quickly too. Besides, the exports are specified by IP address on the server and the problem still occurs even why I mount an export from the client machine using the server's IP as opposed to its hostname. -- Ian Chapman. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: color display with man pages
On Jul 22 14:43, Amila Perera wrote: Thanks a lot Corinna. The following setting did the trick for me. Now the output on Ubuntu Fedora looks the same. Thank you once again. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Corinna Vinschen fed...@cygwin.de wrote: Try this additionally to setting the LESS_TERMCAP_xx vars: export GROFF_NO_SGR=yes Btw., apart from using less (or most), another neat way to read colored man pages is to use a browser: $ man -Hlynx less Corinna -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: color display with man pages
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Corinna Vinschen fed...@cygwin.de wrote: $ man -Hlynx less It's the first time I ever used such thing. It looks quite good, especially the hyperlinks etc. Thank you for the information -- *Amila Perera.* -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NFS Performance Woes
On 21/07/14 21:27, Ed Greshko wrote: For all intents and purpose it looks like its working as it should, it's just painfully slow. Any NFS gurus out there, that can tell me what I'm doing wrong? I've been using NFSv4 extensively for several years and I've not had an issue that you describe where everything is fine and then suddenly performance goes to hell in a hand basket. Yeah it's really annoying. I could accept it, if performance was terrible all the time. I'd just figure I had some configuration setting out of whack, but it's the fact it works great.. then wham. To be honest it almost feels as if a cron job overnight it causing something to go screwy. It'll run fine all day, the next day, back to shit. That's without making any configuration changes. It sounds as if you only have 2 systems to work with? No, tiebreaker so to speak? Actually, I have a couple of netbooks which hang off the wifi, although the NFS exports are set to read only on those, it's probably worth changing that and doing some further testing. Have you considered running a VM on your client system to see if it is affected in the same way? I hadn't considered that. Good idea. When the client's having a crisis, I can spin up the VM on the client and see if that's affected. I guess it would it least tell me if it's a hardware/driver quirk or a software issue. -- Ian Chapman. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NFS Performance Woes
On 21/07/14 20:14, Tom Horsley wrote: Any NFS gurus out there, that can tell me what I'm doing wrong? Not a useful answer, I'm afraid: In my experience, the fundamental problem is caused by using NFS. With all the folks re-writing things that don't need to be replaced, I really wonder why no one seems to be re-writing NFS, which has been utterly unreliable and trouble prone since day one :-(. Sure, it has its issues, but to be honest most network file-systems do. CIFS is no better and in some ways takes more babysitting than NFS. Others don't have wide support amongst many platforms and then there's the differences in implementations. Do you use anything instead of NFS? I toyed with GlusterFS a few months ago and whilst it worked, following various snippets of info on the web, I found the documentation lacking and the admin tools confusing. -- Ian Chapman. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: new kernels rebooting
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Paul Cartwright pbcartwri...@gmail.com wrote: is there some command I don't know about that will let you swap to the latest kernel without rebooting? What problems one could face if I were to not reboot my system for a while and let it update a few kernel versions? -- Regards, Sudhir Khanger. sudhirkhanger.com https://github.com/donniezazen -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
systemd config files???
Why doesn't system respect FSH? What is its benefit? Cite man 7 hier .. /usr/lib Object libraries, including dynamic libraries, plus some executables which usually are not invoked directly. More complicated pro‐ grams may have whole subdirectories there. .. i.e. man systemd-sysctl systemd-sysctl.service is an early-boot service that configures sysctl(8) kernel parameters. See sysctl.d(5) for information about the configuration of this service. man sysctl.d NAME sysctl.d - Configure kernel parameters at boot SYNOPSIS /etc/sysctl.d/*.conf /run/sysctl.d/*.conf /usr/lib/sysctl.d/*.conf DESCRIPTION At boot, systemd-sysctl.service(8) reads configuration files from the above directories to configure sysctl(8) kernel parameters. # ll /etc/sysctl.conf -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 225 Mar 26 14:55 /etc/sysctl.conf # ll /etc/sysctl.d/ total 0 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 14 Apr 3 09:17 99-sysctl.conf - ../sysctl.conf # cat /etc/sysctl.conf # System default settings live in /usr/lib/sysctl.d/00-system.conf. # To override those settings, enter new settings here, or in an /etc/sysctl.d/name.conf file # # For more information, see sysctl.conf(5) and sysctl.d(5). [root@szigeti-6560b ~]# cat /usr/lib/sysctl.d/00-system.conf ... # man -k sysctl|grep systemd systemd-sysctl (8) - Configure kernel parameters at boot systemd-sysctl.service (8) - Configure kernel parameters at boot man systemd-sysctl.service NAME systemd-sysctl.service, systemd-sysctl - Configure kernel parameters at boot SYNOPSIS systemd-sysctl.service /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-sysctl DESCRIPTION systemd-sysctl.service is an early-boot service that configures sysctl(8) kernel parameters. See sysctl.d(5) for information about the configuration of this service. SEE ALSO systemd(1), sysctl.d(5), sysctl(8), I think, the config files should store in /etc instead of everywhere else. The chroot applications are exceptions. It cause we MUST mount /usr in / (root) partion. Balint -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: new kernels rebooting
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:56:00 +0530 Sudhir Khanger sud...@sudhirkhanger.com wrote: What problems one could face if I were to not reboot my system for a while and let it update a few kernel versions? Well, for example, a kernel update might be due to some new severe security exploit, and the old kernel might be vulnerable to it. Running an old kernel on an Internet-facing system might then be a Bad Idea(tm). In theory, for each kernel update you could look at the changelog to see what was actually updated and why, and then decide if you need to run the updated kernel or not. But most people typically don't want to invest the time and effort to do that, if it's easier to just reboot the system. These things should be decided on a case-by-case basis. :-) HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd config files???
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:26:57 +0100 Balint Szigeti balint.s...@gmail.com wrote: Why doesn't system respect FSH? What is its benefit? [snip] I think, the config files should store in /etc instead of everywhere else. The chroot applications are exceptions. It cause we MUST mount /usr in / (root) partion. The _New_Way_ of looking at config files is the following: the *default*, rpm-provided config files should reside somewhere in /usr, while the *customized*, manually tweaked (portions of) config files should reside in /etc. This way there is a clear demarcation between the package manager territory (/usr) and admin's territory (/etc). In such a setup the yum update of a given package can update the default configuration without destroying your customizations. It will also make /etc much cleaner, easier to examine, fix, migrate, backup, and so on. There is a general push to make this happen for all apps, not just systemd, and you should get used to seeing it all over the place. I wouldn't be surprised if the near-future Fedora releases have clean installs with an almost-empty /etc, waiting for you to put your customizations in it. Personally, I think it's a good idea, and it will certainly make my own machines much easier to maintain. Whether this is FSH-compliant or not, I don't know. Some people say it is, some people say it is not, most of the people don't really care. :-) HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd config files???
On 07/22/2014 02:42 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Whether this is FSH-compliant or not, I don't know. Some people say it is, some people say it is not, most of the people don't really care. :-) The difference is: Files outside of /etc are not supposed to modified by users or admins. I.e. shipping config-files out-side of /etc is compliant to the FHS if they can be overriden else where below /etc. In that sense files below /usr aren't user/admin-config files, they are package/application defaults. A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr is broken by design. Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Memory
Hello, Is it normal that /usr/bin/python -Es /usr/sbin/setroublehootd -f (2 shells) consumes 8 GO of RAM (i.e. 49% and 46% of the total)? Thank. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd config files???
A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr is broken by design. pls don't start it. I could find anything else. The only reason I've found systemd because I worked with it nowadays. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: new kernels rebooting
On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 13:25 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: In theory, for each kernel update you could look at the changelog to see what was actually updated and why, and then decide if you need to run the updated kernel or not. But most people typically don't want to invest the time and effort to do that You'd have to understand all the things the update covered, to make sense of it. The last update lists all sorts of things that I have no idea about. e.g. filter: prevent nla from peeking beyond eom Fix dma unmap error in jme driver pty race leading to memory corruption Fix TUN performance regression Add backported drm qxl fix Unfamiliar acronyms galore! While that gobbledegook might be of interest to coders, it's beyond what average computer users are going to want to know about. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.14.8-200.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Mon Jun 16 22:36:56 UTC 2014 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/2014 12:16 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-21 at 12:34 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have considerable routing and addressing knowledge. Besides being one of the authors of rfc 1918, and worked on CIDR, here at IETF I contribute to ipv6ops and ipv6man. Sorry, didn't mean to impune you, but I don't remember who's done what, so I just took the easy route of asking the obvious question. The other thing that occurred to me, much later, was zeroconf probably requires broadcasting to be allowed through the firewall, so that clients can announce themselves, and the rest can notice their arrival. avahi-autoipd -D interface worked on one end. Can't figure out why it did not on the other. Fortunately that is my own notebook where I just: ifconfig enp0s18f2u1 169.254.7.246 netmask 255.255.0.0 route add -net 169.254.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 dev enp0s18f2u1 metric 99 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/2014 12:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/21/14 22:55, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have a headless system that I cannot connect to. So I was thinking to put a direct connection to it and my notebook. Both ethernets would use the zeroconf (169.254.0.0/16) addresses. I could then use fping fping -g 169.254.0.0/16 And SHOULD be able to get its address, and then SSH into the box. Any other thoughts? I can't get to the box to recable it and reboot it (as that is the only way I can figure out for it to readdress eth0) until this evening. To turn on zeroconf you need to modify the link to use BOOTPROTO=autoip. (Shows as Local-Link in the nm gui) But what file is this in now? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet adapter. You'll then have something along the lines of... [egreshko@f20f ~]$ route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 00 p2p1 224.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 U 1 00 p2p1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But what file is this in now? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet adapter. Well, ip link will/should give a list of links. I use network-manager, as I have no fear or need to have my interfaces named something other than ethX, and on one system the wired adapter is p2p1 and another p128p1. The wireless links show up as wlXX. -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But what file is this in now? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet adapter. Well, ip link will/should give a list of links. ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000 link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But I cannot find a script file for p6p1. Perhaps it only exists when the link is up, so where do I put this option? I use network-manager, as I have no fear or need to have my interfaces named something other than ethX, and on one system the wired adapter is p2p1 and another p128p1. The wireless links show up as wlXX. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But what file is this in now? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet adapter. Well, ip link will/should give a list of links. ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000 link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But I cannot find a script file for p6p1. Perhaps it only exists when the link is up, so where do I put this option? Odd. First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not connected. I just pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But the config file still exists. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager? (I'm assuming you are using nm). -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/14 00:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Crossover cable. Is that enough of a 'same network'? FWIW, I've not seen the need to use crossover cables in years. Even when connected peer-to-peer the HW is now capable to detect this situation and auto configure itself using standard cables. -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But what file is this in now? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet adapter. Well, ip link will/should give a list of links. ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000 link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But I cannot find a script file for p6p1. Perhaps it only exists when the link is up, so where do I put this option? Odd. First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not connected. I just pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see Well this is on my notebook and the ethernet was not connected at the time. So now it is plugged in via crossover to the server and link is up. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But the config file still exists. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 But still: ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p* ls: cannot access /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*: No such file or directory Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager? (I'm assuming you are using nm). I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp. This is gnome3 on F20... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On Jul 22 22:19, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 00:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Crossover cable. Is that enough of a 'same network'? FWIW, I've not seen the need to use crossover cables in years. Even when connected peer-to-peer the HW is now capable to detect this situation and auto configure itself using standard cables. Depends on the network speed of the involved NICs, usually. 10 or 100 Mbit/s NICs typically need crossover cables, 1G NICs and faster provide auto-negotiation(*). Corinna (*) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_Dependent_Interface#Auto_MDI-X -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/14 22:27, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jul 22 22:19, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 00:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Crossover cable. Is that enough of a 'same network'? FWIW, I've not seen the need to use crossover cables in years. Even when connected peer-to-peer the HW is now capable to detect this situation and auto configure itself using standard cables. Depends on the network speed of the involved NICs, usually. 10 or 100 Mbit/s NICs typically need crossover cables, 1G NICs and faster provide auto-negotiation(*). Not at all my experience. Unless you've got really old 10 and 100 mbs HW. -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/2014 10:19 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 00:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Crossover cable. Is that enough of a 'same network'? FWIW, I've not seen the need to use crossover cables in years. Even when connected peer-to-peer the HW is now capable to detect this situation and auto configure itself using standard cables. Well, yes. It IS a standard cable and the card(s) are doing the crossover operation. I call it a crossover cable to be clear that there is no physical switch hardware between the systems. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/14 22:43, poma wrote: file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to `/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf' # cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf [main] plugins=keyfile [egreshko@meimei ~]$ file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: ASCII text [egreshko@meimei ~]$ cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf cat: /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf: No such file or directory So? -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/14 22:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager? (I'm assuming you are using nm). I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp. This is gnome3 on F20... I don't regularly use gnome. KDE is my preferred desktop. But I did bring up gnome in a VM and and when I go to settings for my wired connection I can go to the IPv4 settings and under Addresses I am given the choice of Automatic (DHCP), manual, and Local Link. For zeroconf you want to choose local link -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/2014 10:27 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jul 22 22:19, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 00:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Crossover cable. Is that enough of a 'same network'? FWIW, I've not seen the need to use crossover cables in years. Even when connected peer-to-peer the HW is now capable to detect this situation and auto configure itself using standard cables. Depends on the network speed of the involved NICs, usually. 10 or 100 Mbit/s NICs typically need crossover cables, 1G NICs and faster provide auto-negotiation(*). (*) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_Dependent_Interface#Auto_MDI-X There are SOME 100Mb that work OK. But watch for the 2 wire 100Mb with POE coming out probably in a year or two. The target market is for sensors (in buildings) or car networks. Vastly lowered wire costs. No crossover needed, as it is all on 1 pair of wires! The 1 pair PoDL is 802.3bu. The 100Mb is still a study group. I think the PAR will be ready for the November meeting. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 22.07.2014 16:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But what file is this in now? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet adapter. Well, ip link will/should give a list of links. ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000 link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But I cannot find a script file for p6p1. Perhaps it only exists when the link is up, so where do I put this option? Odd. First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not connected. I just pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see Well this is on my notebook and the ethernet was not connected at the time. So now it is plugged in via crossover to the server and link is up. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But the config file still exists. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 But still: ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p* ls: cannot access /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*: No such file or directory Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager? (I'm assuming you are using nm). I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp. This is gnome3 on F20... :) # file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to `/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf' # cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf [main] plugins=keyfile [keyfile] ... # ll /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ # rpm -ql NetworkManager | grep man # rpm -qi $(rpm -qf /usr/lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/2014 10:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 22:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager? (I'm assuming you are using nm). I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp. This is gnome3 on F20... I don't regularly use gnome. KDE is my preferred desktop. But I did bring up gnome in a VM and and when I go to settings for my wired connection I can go to the IPv4 settings and under Addresses I am given the choice of Automatic (DHCP), manual, and Local Link. For zeroconf you want to choose local link I don't want a permanent change. If no DHCP, I want zeroconf. If DHCP use it. This option does not seem to be available. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/2014 10:43 AM, poma wrote: On 22.07.2014 16:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But what file is this in now? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet adapter. Well, ip link will/should give a list of links. ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000 link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But I cannot find a script file for p6p1. Perhaps it only exists when the link is up, so where do I put this option? Odd. First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not connected. I just pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see Well this is on my notebook and the ethernet was not connected at the time. So now it is plugged in via crossover to the server and link is up. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But the config file still exists. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 But still: ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p* ls: cannot access /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*: No such file or directory Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager? (I'm assuming you are using nm). I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp. This is gnome3 on F20... :) # file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to `/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf' # cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf [main] plugins=keyfile [keyfile] ... # file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: ASCII text # cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf cat: /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf: No such file or directory #cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf [main] plugins=ifcfg-rh -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/14 22:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I don't want a permanent change. If no DHCP, I want zeroconf. If DHCP use it. This option does not seem to be available. Oh, I've never seen a case where you could have a fall back position. -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 22.07.2014 16:43, poma wrote: On 22.07.2014 16:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But what file is this in now? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet adapter. Well, ip link will/should give a list of links. ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000 link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But I cannot find a script file for p6p1. Perhaps it only exists when the link is up, so where do I put this option? Odd. First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not connected. I just pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see Well this is on my notebook and the ethernet was not connected at the time. So now it is plugged in via crossover to the server and link is up. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But the config file still exists. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 But still: ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p* ls: cannot access /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*: No such file or directory Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager? (I'm assuming you are using nm). I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp. This is gnome3 on F20... :) # file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to `/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf' # cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf [main] plugins=keyfile [keyfile] ... # ll /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ # rpm -ql NetworkManager | grep man # rpm -qi $(rpm -qf /usr/lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service) in addition # grep ^hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf # man 5 nsswitch.conf http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/nss-mdns/ # man 5 avahi.hosts # man 5 avahi-daemon.conf In the end it turns out that 'ZeroConf' ain't really configless. :) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 22.07.2014 16:57, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 10:43 AM, poma wrote: On 22.07.2014 16:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But what file is this in now? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet adapter. Well, ip link will/should give a list of links. ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000 link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But I cannot find a script file for p6p1. Perhaps it only exists when the link is up, so where do I put this option? Odd. First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not connected. I just pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see Well this is on my notebook and the ethernet was not connected at the time. So now it is plugged in via crossover to the server and link is up. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But the config file still exists. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 But still: ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p* ls: cannot access /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*: No such file or directory Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager? (I'm assuming you are using nm). I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp. This is gnome3 on F20... :) # file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to `/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf' # cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf [main] plugins=keyfile [keyfile] ... # file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: ASCII text # cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf cat: /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf: No such file or directory #cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf [main] plugins=ifcfg-rh :) # ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg* /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-lo poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/2014 10:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 22:43, poma wrote: file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to `/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf' # cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf [main] plugins=keyfile [egreshko@meimei ~]$ file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: ASCII text [egreshko@meimei ~]$ cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf cat: /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf: No such file or directory So? My files are different than yours. No symlink. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/2014 10:54 AM, poma wrote: On 22.07.2014 16:43, poma wrote: On 22.07.2014 16:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But what file is this in now? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet adapter. Well, ip link will/should give a list of links. ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000 link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But I cannot find a script file for p6p1. Perhaps it only exists when the link is up, so where do I put this option? Odd. First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not connected. I just pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see Well this is on my notebook and the ethernet was not connected at the time. So now it is plugged in via crossover to the server and link is up. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But the config file still exists. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 But still: ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p* ls: cannot access /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*: No such file or directory Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager? (I'm assuming you are using nm). I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp. This is gnome3 on F20... :) # file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to `/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf' # cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf [main] plugins=keyfile [keyfile] ... # ll /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ # rpm -ql NetworkManager | grep man # rpm -qi $(rpm -qf /usr/lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service) in addition # grep ^hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf # man 5 nsswitch.conf http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/nss-mdns/ # man 5 avahi.hosts # man 5 avahi-daemon.conf In the end it turns out that 'ZeroConf' ain't really configless. :) Today avahi-autoipd -D p6p1 is working. Well yesterday, I had to use my internal ethernet on my notebook for internet connection, as WiFi was down, so I was using a D-link USB ethernet. Today, WiFi is up so using the internal ethernet. Must be something about the drivers or such. Anyway if you want zeroconf for a 'one time' thing, this is the command. What I really want is if no DHCP, use zeroconf. I think it use to work this way. Though I can see why not to move fully into the IPv6 world. There is no DHCPv4 stupid because there is no IPv4 here! :) From the 'driver' behind rfc1918 and a big backer of IPv6 (use Teredo if you must!). :)' -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/2014 10:55 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 22:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I don't want a permanent change. If no DHCP, I want zeroconf. If DHCP use it. This option does not seem to be available. Oh, I've never seen a case where you could have a fall back position. This is what Windoz has always done! M$ is the author of the zeroconf B-class network and how to compute your address; they even patented it and made it available to the workgroup. I worked in that IETF group long ago. The idea of zeroconf was to get local networking working automagically when nothing exists to provide routeable addressing. The whole point of 'zeroconf'. Of course this lead into discovering your devices on the network and adopting the Bounjour Apple work. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 22.07.2014 17:27, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 10:54 AM, poma wrote: On 22.07.2014 16:43, poma wrote: On 22.07.2014 16:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But what file is this in now? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet adapter. Well, ip link will/should give a list of links. ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000 link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But I cannot find a script file for p6p1. Perhaps it only exists when the link is up, so where do I put this option? Odd. First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not connected. I just pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see Well this is on my notebook and the ethernet was not connected at the time. So now it is plugged in via crossover to the server and link is up. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff But the config file still exists. [egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 But still: ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p* ls: cannot access /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*: No such file or directory Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager? (I'm assuming you are using nm). I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp. This is gnome3 on F20... :) # file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to `/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf' # cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf [main] plugins=keyfile [keyfile] ... # ll /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ # rpm -ql NetworkManager | grep man # rpm -qi $(rpm -qf /usr/lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service) in addition # grep ^hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf # man 5 nsswitch.conf http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/nss-mdns/ # man 5 avahi.hosts # man 5 avahi-daemon.conf In the end it turns out that 'ZeroConf' ain't really configless. :) Today avahi-autoipd -D p6p1 is working. Well yesterday, I had to use my internal ethernet on my notebook for internet connection, as WiFi was down, so I was using a D-link USB ethernet. Today, WiFi is up so using the internal ethernet. Must be something about the drivers or such. Anyway if you want zeroconf for a 'one time' thing, this is the command. What I really want is if no DHCP, use zeroconf. I think it use to work this way. Though I can see why not to move fully into the IPv6 world. There is no DHCPv4 stupid because there is no IPv4 here! :) From the 'driver' behind rfc1918 and a big backer of IPv6 (use Teredo if you must!). :)' Don't worry about it. Lennart 'll figure it out for us. :) [systemd-devel] mdns support to networkd http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-June/020362.html systemd fan club -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
vncserver not starting today
OK. New day, new testing. I can get IPv4 setup quickly and routing right. Yeah me (with a little help from my friends I got by)! So I go to start vncserver where I was up to yesterday where I got the display wrong and get: # systemctl start vncserver@:3.service Job for vncserver@:3.service failed. See 'systemctl status vncserver@:3.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details. # systemctl -l status vncserver@:3.service vncserver@:3.service - Remote desktop service (VNC) Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/vncserver@:3.service; enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2010-01-01 00:28:15 EST; 35s ago Process: 952 ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l rgm -c /usr/bin/vncserver %i (code=exited, status=2) Process: 949 ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c /usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i /dev/null 21 || : (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: vncserver@:3.service: control process exited, code=exited status=2 Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Failed to start Remote desktop service (VNC). Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Unit vncserver@:3.service entered failed state. So now what? It worked yesterday I can't find anything I did yesterday that I am not doing today. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd config files???
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:03:39 +0200 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr is broken by design. Agreed, but I don't seem to fully understand your point here. Are you suggesting that there are packages which are currently broken in this way? Do you know of any examples? If not, why did you raise this point? Best, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/14 23:32, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 10:55 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 22:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I don't want a permanent change. If no DHCP, I want zeroconf. If DHCP use it. This option does not seem to be available. Oh, I've never seen a case where you could have a fall back position. This is what Windoz has always done! M$ is the author of the zeroconf B-class network and how to compute your address; they even patented it and made it available to the workgroup. I worked in that IETF group long ago. The idea of zeroconf was to get local networking working automagically when nothing exists to provide routeable addressing. The whole point of 'zeroconf'. Of course this lead into discovering your devices on the network and adopting the Bounjour Apple work. Well, I should have said I've not seen that in Linux. And I don't do windows. :-) -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/22/2014 01:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 23:32, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 10:55 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 22:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I don't want a permanent change. If no DHCP, I want zeroconf. If DHCP use it. This option does not seem to be available. Oh, I've never seen a case where you could have a fall back position. This is what Windoz has always done! M$ is the author of the zeroconf B-class network and how to compute your address; they even patented it and made it available to the workgroup. I worked in that IETF group long ago. The idea of zeroconf was to get local networking working automagically when nothing exists to provide routeable addressing. The whole point of 'zeroconf'. Of course this lead into discovering your devices on the network and adopting the Bounjour Apple work. Well, I should have said I've not seen that in Linux. And I don't do windows. :-) If I go back far enough with my linux testing, I remember zeroconf working. Or at least I think so; am going back quite a while. Probably before adding avahi. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd config files???
Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de writes: A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr is broken by design. Both python and perl come with mechanisms to add their respective native packages under /usr/lib/... Do you consider those packages broken? PHP comes with pecl, that installs native packages under /usr/share/php, so the same question applies there. -- /Wegge Leder efter redundant peering af dk.*,linux.debian.* -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [F20, KDE] color profile applied 1 s and then disappears
Hi, thanks for help, I installed a color profile for my LCD monitor. Where did it come from? I measured it with a colorimeter using argyllcms. What do you get for? colormgr get-devices ... Object Path: /org/freedesktop/ColorManager/devices/xrandr_Chi_Mei_Optoelectronics_corp__fred_1000 ... Type: display Enabled: Yes Embedded: Yes Model: P170HMx Vendor:Clevo Serial:unknown Seat: seat0 Scope: temp Colorspace:rgb Device ID: xrandr-Chi Mei Optoelectronics corp. Profile 1: icc-9eb6fda60c1c8fcffd3111c8931dd354 /var/lib/colord/icc/P170HMx-nvidia-brightness4.2014-01-12_22-58-25.precise_matrix.icc Profile 2: icc-3e9bad7a0d3e98539aff767539cc891d /home/fred/.local/share/icc/edid-67b7d71da13bf89f5583ec6c33a36b1b.icc Metadata: OutputPriority=primary Metadata: XRANDR_name=LVDS-0 Metadata: OwnerCmdline=kded4 Metadata: OutputEdidMd5=67b7d71da13bf89f5583ec6c33a36b1b When I start KDE, the correct profile is applied but 1second later, it is disabled. I see that because the background picture changes dramatically. Why? Can you see anything in the journal at the time of starting KDE and subsequent disabling? The log is attached. What follows may be relevant. It seems to me that the profile is correctly applied. I do not see anything removing it. However, I discovered that without the nvidia proprietary driver, there is no issue... I filed a bug at nvidia but I doubt anybody will answer... https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/762690/linux/after-a-few-seconds-the-display-color-profile-is-back-to-default-fedora-20-kde4-/ colord[842]: Profile added: icc-47e361dbcd0364df8d8878267f9d3810 colord[842]: Profile added: icc-3e9bad7a0d3e98539aff767539cc891d colord[842]: Automatic database add icc-3e9bad7a0d3e98539aff767539cc891d to xrandr-Chi Mei Optoelectronics corp. colord[842]: Automatic database add icc-9eb6fda60c1c8fcffd3111c8931dd354 to xrandr-Chi Mei Optoelectronics corp. colord[842]: Automatic metadata add icc-3e9bad7a0d3e98539aff767539cc891d to xrandr-Chi Mei Optoelectronics corp. colord[842]: Device added: xrandr-Chi Mei Optoelectronics corp. Frédéric -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd config files???
Hi On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Anders Wegge Kelle wrote: Ralf Corsepius writes: A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr is broken by design. Both python and perl come with mechanisms to add their respective native packages under /usr/lib/... Do you consider those packages broken? PHP comes with pecl, that installs native packages under /usr/share/php, so the same question applies there. Not really. Ralf is talking about configuration in /usr and not other type of data (ie) the configuration in /usr is just fine as long as there is a way for the user to override it. systemd does provide a number of options to do that. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd config files???
On 07/22/2014 12:26 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de writes: A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr is broken by design. Both python and perl come with mechanisms to add their respective native packages under /usr/lib/... Do you consider those packages broken? PHP comes with pecl, that installs native packages under /usr/share/php, so the same question applies there. Are you talking about the packages or the configuration files? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
CPU/Memory
Hello, I have 2 machines running fedora 20, one from 2007 with a dual processor and 3 Go, and a recent one (2013) with a quad processor an 8 Go. But it is a lot more convenient to use the old machine!!! The recent one is always busy, 4 processors running 53.1 55.9 /usr/bin/python -Es /usr/sbin/setroublesootd -f and the memory becomes full quickly requiring swapping!! 8 Go for the OS and firefox! Something is wrong. Should I kill setroublesootd? What is wrong? I cannot see. Thank. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr
On 07/23/14 01:41, Robert Moskowitz wrote: If I go back far enough with my linux testing, I remember zeroconf working. Or at least I think so; am going back quite a while. Probably before adding avahi. Now that you mention it, you are most probably right. I recall there always being a 169.254.0.0 in my routing table. But by force of habit I always placed nozeroconf=yes in my network scripts. -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd config files???
Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: On 07/22/2014 12:26 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de writes: A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr is broken by design. Both python and perl come with mechanisms to add their respective native packages under /usr/lib/... Do you consider those packages broken? PHP comes with pecl, that installs native packages under /usr/share/php, so the same question applies there. Are you talking about the packages or the configuration files? The specific wording: requires users to modify files below /usr. -- /Wegge Leder efter redundant peering af dk.*,linux.debian.* -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: vncserver not starting today
On 07/23/14 01:02, Robert Moskowitz wrote: OK. New day, new testing. I can get IPv4 setup quickly and routing right. Yeah me (with a little help from my friends I got by)! So I go to start vncserver where I was up to yesterday where I got the display wrong and get: # systemctl start vncserver@:3.service Job for vncserver@:3.service failed. See 'systemctl status vncserver@:3.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details. # systemctl -l status vncserver@:3.service vncserver@:3.service - Remote desktop service (VNC) Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/vncserver@:3.service; enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2010-01-01 00:28:15 EST; 35s ago Process: 952 ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l rgm -c /usr/bin/vncserver %i (code=exited, status=2) Process: 949 ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c /usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i /dev/null 21 || : (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: vncserver@:3.service: control process exited, code=exited status=2 Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Failed to start Remote desktop service (VNC). Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Unit vncserver@:3.service entered failed state. So now what? It worked yesterday I can't find anything I did yesterday that I am not doing today. Do you happen to have a ~/.vnc/*.pid file present? -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Have you registered for Flock?
I don't know, and don't want to know what Flock is and I don't want to register for it. Please UNSUBSCRIBE me! Who wouldn't want to go to Flock? -- Steven Rosenberg http://stevenrosenberg.net/blog http://blogs.dailynews.com/click -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: vncserver not starting today
On 22 Jul 2014 at 13:02, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Date sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:02:02 -0400 From: Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:vncserver not starting today Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org OK. New day, new testing. I can get IPv4 setup quickly and routing right. Yeah me (with a little help from my friends I got by)! So I go to start vncserver where I was up to yesterday where I got the display wrong and get: # systemctl start vncserver@:3.service Job for vncserver@:3.service failed. See 'systemctl status vncserver@:3.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details. # systemctl -l status vncserver@:3.service vncserver@:3.service - Remote desktop service (VNC) Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/vncserver@:3.service; enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2010-01-01 00:28:15 EST; 35s ago Process: 952 ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l rgm -c /usr/bin/vncserver %i (code=exited, status=2) Process: 949 ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c /usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i /dev/null 21 || : (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: vncserver@:3.service: control process exited, code=exited status=2 Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Failed to start Remote desktop service (VNC). Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Unit vncserver@:3.service entered failed state. So now what? It worked yesterday Check if there is a /tmp/.X11-unix/X3 file. It is suppose to be removed with a normal shutdown, but sometimes isn't and causes the vnc not to start. I used a cron.hourly script that would check if vnc serve running, and if not, it would remove the file, and then use systemctl to restart the service. I can't find anything I did yesterday that I am not doing today. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org +--+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor Guam Community College Computer Center mailto:mi...@kuentos.guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com http://www.guam.net/home/mikes Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ +--+ http://setiathome.berkeley.edu (Original) Number of Seti Units Returned: 19,471 Processing time: 32 years, 290 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes (Total Hours: 287,489) BOINC@HOME CREDITS ROSETTA 17924585.874977 | SETI29593668.378551 ABC 16613838.513356 | EINSTEIN28547237.391636 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: CPU/Memory
On 07/22/2014 01:23 PM, Patrick Dupre issued this missive: Hello, I have 2 machines running fedora 20, one from 2007 with a dual processor and 3 Go, and a recent one (2013) with a quad processor an 8 Go. But it is a lot more convenient to use the old machine!!! The recent one is always busy, 4 processors running 53.1 55.9 /usr/bin/python -Es /usr/sbin/setroublesootd -f and the memory becomes full quickly requiring swapping!! 8 Go for the OS and firefox! Something is wrong. Should I kill setroublesootd? The first thing is to see why you're getting AVC denials from SELinux in the first place. setroubleshootd should only fire if it's getting denials. Try running sealert -b and see if you're getting denials and what you can do about them. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - To err is human, to moo bovine. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Problems with Fedora 20
Couple of things seem to have gone awry. I think Ubuntu update to 14.04 has messed around with Fedora 20 grub boot because booting now takes for ever and defaults to Ctrl D to Continue or root password for maintenance, then takes 30-50 seconds to boot. 2nd, With the latest updates and kernel-3.15.5-200.fc20.x86_64 something seems wrong. The machine used to be quite fast but now is very slow. Any processes like opening and deleting emails, screen refresh, opening or closing files is very slow and the hard drive is working overtime with every mouse click or key press. CPUs are running at 20-50%, memory runs at 85%, temp directory is running overtime. Whereas performing the same in ubuntu 14.04, 386 memory runs around 35%, cpu's 20-50%, no hard drive temp used at all, and emails open and delete immediately. I have cleaned repositories, removed unused files and software in both setups, run sudo yum autoclean, sudo yum clean packages. top shows nothing untoward. I am running 3.15.4-200.fc20.x86_64 for this email and the system seems to be better but the hard drive works overtime with each change. kernel-3.14.8-200.fc20.x86_6 produces inode errors and boot fails. There is a command to rebuild grub boot but I don't remember the details, can someone please point me to how this should be done. What should I look for as to why the system is not operating as before. Help much appreciated thanks Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problems with Fedora 20
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Roger are...@bigpond.com wrote: Couple of things seem to have gone awry. I think Ubuntu update to 14.04 has messed around with Fedora 20 grub boot because booting now takes for ever and defaults to Ctrl D to Continue or root password for maintenance, then takes 30-50 seconds to boot. 2nd, With the latest updates and kernel-3.15.5-200.fc20.x86_64 something seems wrong. The machine used to be quite fast but now is very slow. Any processes like opening and deleting emails, screen refresh, opening or closing files is very slow and the hard drive is working overtime with every mouse click or key press. CPUs are running at 20-50%, memory runs at 85%, temp directory is running overtime. Whereas performing the same in ubuntu 14.04, 386 memory runs around 35%, cpu's 20-50%, no hard drive temp used at all, and emails open and delete immediately. I have cleaned repositories, removed unused files and software in both setups, run sudo yum autoclean, sudo yum clean packages. top shows nothing untoward. I am running 3.15.4-200.fc20.x86_64 for this email and the system seems to be better but the hard drive works overtime with each change. kernel-3.14.8-200.fc20.x86_6 produces inode errors and boot fails. There is a command to rebuild grub boot but I don't remember the details, can someone please point me to how this should be done. What should I look for as to why the system is not operating as before. Help much appreciated thanks Roger Do you see any error reports in /var/log/messages ? Do you see any error reports when running dmesg? You might want to post those error messages to shed more light on the problem. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: color display with man pages
On 07/22/14 04:55, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jul 22 13:37, Amila Perera wrote: Thank you for your feedback. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: I tried with bash, it seems to work ... somewhat. I see a yellow status at the bottom, but otherwise I see a regular man page. When I `type man' after defining your function, I get a few colours among the variable definitions (blue, red, and underlined). Well, I only get the yellow status line color and some variables getting bold. I have never tried this with bash, though. Try this additionally to setting the LESS_TERMCAP_xx vars: export GROFF_NO_SGR=yes Hey Corinna, Could you share some more details on how to use the LESS_TERMCAP_xx vars and export GROFF_NO_SGR=yes commands? I'm assuming that you put them in your .bashrc file, no? -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: color display with man pages
On Tuesday 22 July 2014 12:14 PM, Amila Perera wrote: Thank you Jatin. I knew 'most' would work. It is able to display colours as well. But I am used to 'less' and its key bindings. I am quite puzzled as why the termcap settings for less don't work in Fedora20. Do you have any explanations?? Just a few hours ago I installed CentOS 7 and it worked fine there too with KDE. Do you know any sort of workaround to this problem?? On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Jatin K ssh.fed...@gmail.com mailto:ssh.fed...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 21 July 2014 11:42 PM, Amila Perera wrote: Hi all, This is my first mail on fedora mailing list. I can't get the following to display colours with LESS command on my terminal, when viewing man pages. I am using Fedora 20 with KDE. My shell is zsh. --- man() { env LESS_TERMCAP_mb=$'\E[01;31m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_md=$'\E[01;34m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_me=$'\E[0m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_se=$'\E[0m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_so=$'\E[01;33;40m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_ue=$'\E[0m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_us=$'\E[01;04;35m' \ man $@ } have you tried most ..?? try following yum install most export PAGER=most or export PAGER=/usr/bin/most -s now try to viewing man for any command say man date may be this[1], can help [1] http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/108699/documentation-on-less-termcap-variables -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Jatin Khatri RHCSA,RHCE,CCNA,MCP Registerd Linux user No #501175 www.linuxcounter.net No M$ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: vncserver not starting today
On 07/22/2014 06:55 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: On 22 Jul 2014 at 13:02, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Date sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:02:02 -0400 From: Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:vncserver not starting today Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org OK. New day, new testing. I can get IPv4 setup quickly and routing right. Yeah me (with a little help from my friends I got by)! So I go to start vncserver where I was up to yesterday where I got the display wrong and get: # systemctl start vncserver@:3.service Job for vncserver@:3.service failed. See 'systemctl status vncserver@:3.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details. # systemctl -l status vncserver@:3.service vncserver@:3.service - Remote desktop service (VNC) Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/vncserver@:3.service; enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2010-01-01 00:28:15 EST; 35s ago Process: 952 ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l rgm -c /usr/bin/vncserver %i (code=exited, status=2) Process: 949 ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c /usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i /dev/null 21 || : (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: vncserver@:3.service: control process exited, code=exited status=2 Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Failed to start Remote desktop service (VNC). Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Unit vncserver@:3.service entered failed state. So now what? It worked yesterday Check if there is a /tmp/.X11-unix/X3 file. It is suppose to be removed with a normal shutdown, but sometimes isn't and causes the vnc not to start. I used a cron.hourly script that would check if vnc serve running, and if not, it would remove the file, and then use systemctl to restart the service. That might have been it. I had just pulled the plug on the last shutdown. This time I did a proper poweroff and powered on, and it is starting. # systemctl -l status vncserver@:3.service vncserver@:3.service - Remote desktop service (VNC) Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/vncserver@:3.service; enabled) Active: active (running) since Wed 2014-07-23 01:13:16 EDT; 8min ago Process: 1172 ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l rgm -c /usr/bin/vncserver %i (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Process: 1169 ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c /usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i /dev/null 21 || : (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 1196 (Xvnc) CGroup: /system.slice/system-vncserver.slice/vncserver@:3.service ‣ 1196 /usr/bin/Xvnc :3 -desktop cb2.htt-consult.com:3 (rgm) -auth /home/rgm/.Xauthority -geometry 1024x768 -rfbwait 3 -rfbauth /home/rgm/.vnc/passwd -rfbport 5903 -fp catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d -pn Jul 23 01:13:16 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Started Remote desktop service (VNC). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
vnc not into gnome but Xfce but still not working
OK. I believe I figured out what is wrongish. I normally run gnome, so in my ~/.vnc/xstartup I have: exec gnome-session as the last line. But this fedora 20 arm system is running Xfce! So after a quick google search, I changed that to: exec xfce4-session But still I get vnc having a blank screen. That no desktop is running in vnc. /var/log/messages says: Jul 23 01:38:55 cb2 runuser: New 'cb2.htt-consult.com:3 (rgm)' desktop is cb2.htt-consult.com:3 Jul 23 01:38:55 cb2 runuser: Starting applications specified in /home/rgm/.vnc/xstartup Jul 23 01:38:55 cb2 runuser: Log file is /home/rgm/.vnc/cb2.htt-consult.com:3.log Jul 23 01:38:55 cb2 systemd: Started Remote desktop service (VNC). /home/rgm/.vnc/cb2.htt-consult.com:3.log says: Xvnc TigerVNC 1.3.0 - built Mar 19 2014 17:22:24 Copyright (C) 1999-2011 TigerVNC Team and many others (see README.txt) See http://www.tigervnc.org for information on TigerVNC. Underlying X server release 11404000, The X.Org Foundation Initializing built-in extension VNC-EXTENSION Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension Initializing built-in extension SHAPE Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension Initializing built-in extension XTEST Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS Initializing built-in extension SYNC Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC Initializing built-in extension XFIXES Initializing built-in extension RENDER Initializing built-in extension RANDR Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER Initializing built-in extension RECORD Initializing built-in extension DPMS Initializing built-in extension X-Resource Initializing built-in extension XVideo Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation Initializing built-in extension GLX Wed Jul 23 01:38:52 2014 vncext: VNC extension running! vncext: Listening for VNC connections on all interface(s), port 5903 vncext: created VNC server for screen 0 Wed Jul 23 01:39:05 2014 Connections: accepted: 169.254.7.250::43934 SConnection: Client needs protocol version 3.8 SConnection: Client requests security type VncAuth(2) Wed Jul 23 01:39:08 2014 VNCSConnST: Server default pixel format depth 24 (32bpp) little-endian rgb888 VNCSConnST: Client pixel format depth 24 (32bpp) little-endian rgb888 Wed Jul 23 01:39:32 2014 Connections: closed: 169.254.7.250::43934 (Clean disconnection) SMsgWriter: framebuffer updates 6 SMsgWriter:Tight rects 17, bytes 1855 SMsgWriter:raw bytes equivalent 5849792, compression ratio 3153.526685 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org