[389-users] synchronize 389DS uid with userPrincipalName from Active Directory

2014-07-22 Thread Mihai Carabas
Hi,

We are currently using 389-DS as a LDAP server for our university
(University Politehnica from Bucharest). Right now we have about 35000
accounts created into the 389-DS. We need to synchronize all the
accounts with an Active Directory server for various purposes (Wifi
authentication/e-mail authentication, etc). I've setup the 389-DS /
Active Directory replication succesfully but we have a design problem:
a very high number of users has the username (uid: field) larger than
20 characters and I can't pass this uid to the ntUserDomainId (which
is equivelant with the sAMAccount in AD). Is there any way that I can
populate the userPrincipalName with this uid? (which does not have the
limit indicated above)

Thank you in advance,
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Re: [389-users] synchronize 389DS uid with userPrincipalName from Active Directory

2014-07-22 Thread Rich Megginson

On 07/22/2014 04:05 AM, Mihai Carabas wrote:

Hi,

We are currently using 389-DS as a LDAP server for our university
(University Politehnica from Bucharest). Right now we have about 35000
accounts created into the 389-DS. We need to synchronize all the
accounts with an Active Directory server for various purposes (Wifi
authentication/e-mail authentication, etc). I've setup the 389-DS /
Active Directory replication succesfully but we have a design problem:
a very high number of users has the username (uid: field) larger than
20 characters and I can't pass this uid to the ntUserDomainId (which
is equivelant with the sAMAccount in AD). Is there any way that I can
populate the userPrincipalName with this uid? (which does not have the
limit indicated above)


Is the problem that the 389 uid attribute has values greater than 20 
characters, and when windows sync adds these users to AD, it tries to 
write the uid value into the samAccountName field, and this is rejected 
because the samAccountName field does not allow more than 20 
characters?  So you want to instead write the uid attribute value to the 
userPrincipalName field?  I think we would still need to write some 
value to samAccountName - what value should we use?




Thank you in advance,
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Re: [389-users] synchronize 389DS uid with userPrincipalName from Active Directory

2014-07-22 Thread Mihai Carabas
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 07/22/2014 04:05 AM, Mihai Carabas wrote:

 Hi,

 We are currently using 389-DS as a LDAP server for our university
 (University Politehnica from Bucharest). Right now we have about 35000
 accounts created into the 389-DS. We need to synchronize all the
 accounts with an Active Directory server for various purposes (Wifi
 authentication/e-mail authentication, etc). I've setup the 389-DS /
 Active Directory replication succesfully but we have a design problem:
 a very high number of users has the username (uid: field) larger than
 20 characters and I can't pass this uid to the ntUserDomainId (which
 is equivelant with the sAMAccount in AD). Is there any way that I can
 populate the userPrincipalName with this uid? (which does not have the
 limit indicated above)


 Is the problem that the 389 uid attribute has values greater than 20
 characters, and when windows sync adds these users to AD, it tries to write
 the uid value into the samAccountName field, and this is rejected because
 the samAccountName field does not allow more than 20 characters?  So you
Yes this is my main problem. If you have other suggestions/solutions
they are welcome (we can't modify the usernames because these
usernames are already used and stored by various applications in their
own databases and we would create a chaos).

 want to instead write the uid attribute value to the userPrincipalName
 field?  I think we would still need to write some value to samAccountName -
 what value should we use?
I can generate a unique value for each of them, based on some other
INFO (like personal number, date of birth).

Thanks,
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Re: [389-users] synchronize 389DS uid with userPrincipalName from Active Directory

2014-07-22 Thread Rich Megginson

On 07/22/2014 07:56 AM, Mihai Carabas wrote:

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com wrote:

On 07/22/2014 04:05 AM, Mihai Carabas wrote:

Hi,

We are currently using 389-DS as a LDAP server for our university
(University Politehnica from Bucharest). Right now we have about 35000
accounts created into the 389-DS. We need to synchronize all the
accounts with an Active Directory server for various purposes (Wifi
authentication/e-mail authentication, etc). I've setup the 389-DS /
Active Directory replication succesfully but we have a design problem:
a very high number of users has the username (uid: field) larger than
20 characters and I can't pass this uid to the ntUserDomainId (which
is equivelant with the sAMAccount in AD). Is there any way that I can
populate the userPrincipalName with this uid? (which does not have the
limit indicated above)


Is the problem that the 389 uid attribute has values greater than 20
characters, and when windows sync adds these users to AD, it tries to write
the uid value into the samAccountName field, and this is rejected because
the samAccountName field does not allow more than 20 characters?  So you

Yes this is my main problem. If you have other suggestions/solutions
they are welcome (we can't modify the usernames because these
usernames are already used and stored by various applications in their
own databases and we would create a chaos).


I don't think it is possible to solve this problem currently. Please 
file a ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/389/newticket



want to instead write the uid attribute value to the userPrincipalName
field?  I think we would still need to write some value to samAccountName -
what value should we use?

I can generate a unique value for each of them, based on some other
INFO (like personal number, date of birth).

Thanks,
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Re: [389-users] synchronize 389DS uid with userPrincipalName from Active Directory

2014-07-22 Thread Mihai Carabas


 I don't think it is possible to solve this problem currently. Please file a
 ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/389/newticket
I opened a ticket [1]

Thanks,
Mihai

[1] https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47864
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[389-users] DS SSL cfg

2014-07-22 Thread Isabella Ghiurea

Hello List,
I would like to know if DS  can be cfg for TLS/SSL + CA connections 
later one or must to be done at installation time ?

Isabella

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Re: [389-users] DS SSL cfg

2014-07-22 Thread Rich Megginson

On 07/22/2014 03:17 PM, Isabella Ghiurea wrote:

Hello List,
I would like to know if DS  can be cfg for TLS/SSL + CA connections 
later one or must to be done at installation time ?


Later on.  Set up without TLS/SSL, then configure later. 
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Directory_Server/9.0/html/Administration_Guide/SecureConnections.html



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Re: color display with man pages

2014-07-22 Thread Amila Perera
Thank you Jatin.

I knew 'most' would work.
It is able to display colours as well.

But I am used to 'less' and its key bindings.

I am quite puzzled as why the termcap settings for less don't work in
Fedora20.

Do you have any explanations??

Just a few hours ago I installed CentOS 7 and it worked fine there too with
KDE.
Do you know any sort of workaround to this problem??


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Jatin K ssh.fed...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Monday 21 July 2014 11:42 PM, Amila Perera wrote:

  Hi all,

  This is my first mail on fedora mailing list.

  I can't get the following to display colours with LESS command on my
 terminal,
 when viewing man pages.
 I am using Fedora 20 with KDE. My shell is zsh.
 ---
 man()
  {
  env LESS_TERMCAP_mb=$'\E[01;31m' \
  LESS_TERMCAP_md=$'\E[01;34m' \
  LESS_TERMCAP_me=$'\E[0m' \
  LESS_TERMCAP_se=$'\E[0m' \
  LESS_TERMCAP_so=$'\E[01;33;40m' \
  LESS_TERMCAP_ue=$'\E[0m' \
  LESS_TERMCAP_us=$'\E[01;04;35m' \
  man $@
 }


 have you tried most ..??

 try following

 yum install most

 export PAGER=most

 or

 export PAGER=/usr/bin/most -s

 now try to viewing man for any command

 say

 man date


 






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Re: new kernels rebooting

2014-07-22 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 21.07.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote: 

 what is it I am symlinking?? the actual kernel??

If you need to: the root directory of the kernel source.

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Re: new kernels rebooting

2014-07-22 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 22.07.2014, Joe Zeff wrote: 

 If you really need to put it on a spare partition, you can always move
 everything there from /usr/src and then mount that partition at /usr/src and
 go from there.

And don't forget to take a look into /lib/modules and update the
(now) incorrect symlinks to the build directory..

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Re: color display with man pages

2014-07-22 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Amila,

On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:42:23PM +0530, Amila Perera wrote:
 man()
 {
 env LESS_TERMCAP_mb=$'\E[01;31m' \
 LESS_TERMCAP_md=$'\E[01;34m' \
 LESS_TERMCAP_me=$'\E[0m' \
 LESS_TERMCAP_se=$'\E[0m' \
 LESS_TERMCAP_so=$'\E[01;33;40m' \
 LESS_TERMCAP_ue=$'\E[0m' \
 LESS_TERMCAP_us=$'\E[01;04;35m' \
 man $@
 }

I tried with bash, it seems to work ... somewhat.  I see a yellow status
at the bottom, but otherwise I see a regular man page.  When I `type
man' after defining your function, I get a few colours among the variable
definitions (blue, red, and underlined).

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Re: color display with man pages

2014-07-22 Thread Joachim Backes
On 07/22/2014 09:10 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
 Hi Amila,
 
 On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:42:23PM +0530, Amila Perera wrote:
 man()
 {
 env LESS_TERMCAP_mb=$'\E[01;31m' \
 LESS_TERMCAP_md=$'\E[01;34m' \
 LESS_TERMCAP_me=$'\E[0m' \
 LESS_TERMCAP_se=$'\E[0m' \
 LESS_TERMCAP_so=$'\E[01;33;40m' \
 LESS_TERMCAP_ue=$'\E[0m' \
 LESS_TERMCAP_us=$'\E[01;04;35m' \
 man $@
 }
 
 I tried with bash, it seems to work ... somewhat.  I see a yellow status
 at the bottom, but otherwise I see a regular man page.  When I `type
 man' after defining your function, I get a few colours among the variable
 definitions (blue, red, and underlined).
 
 Hope this helps,
 

Getting same here.

But I have to agree Amila, that (at least) on Ubuntu 12.04 or on on
Scientific Linux release 6.3 (Carbon) I get some more colors.


Kind regards

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Re: color display with man pages

2014-07-22 Thread Amila Perera
Thank you for your feedback.


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I tried with bash, it seems to work ... somewhat.  I see a yellow status
 at the bottom, but otherwise I see a regular man page.  When I `type
 man' after defining your function, I get a few colours among the variable
 definitions (blue, red, and underlined).


Well, I only get the yellow status line color and some variables getting
bold.
I have never tried this with bash, though.




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Re: color display with man pages

2014-07-22 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 22 13:37, Amila Perera wrote:
 Thank you for your feedback.
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I tried with bash, it seems to work ... somewhat.  I see a yellow status
  at the bottom, but otherwise I see a regular man page.  When I `type
  man' after defining your function, I get a few colours among the variable
  definitions (blue, red, and underlined).
 
 
 Well, I only get the yellow status line color and some variables getting
 bold.
 I have never tried this with bash, though.

Try this additionally to setting the LESS_TERMCAP_xx vars:

  export GROFF_NO_SGR=yes


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Re: color display with man pages

2014-07-22 Thread Amila Perera
Thanks a lot Corinna.

The following setting did the trick for me.
Now the output on Ubuntu  Fedora looks the same.

Thank you once again.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Corinna Vinschen fed...@cygwin.de wrote:

 Try this additionally to setting the LESS_TERMCAP_xx vars:

   export GROFF_NO_SGR=yes





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Re: NFS Performance Woes

2014-07-22 Thread Ian Chapman

On 22/07/14 02:39, Peter Skensved wrote:


I've been using NFSv4 extensively for several years and I've not had an issue 
that you
describe where everything is fine and then suddenly performance goes to hell in 
a hand basket.

It sounds as if you only have 2 systems to work with?  No, tiebreaker so to 
speak?

Have you considered running a VM on your client system to see if it is affected 
in the same way?


   DNS problems can do it . Are your /etc/resolv.conf files correct ?
You could try running your own nameserver ( dnsmasq ) if the upstream
one is too slow or too busy.


I'm fairly sure it's not DNS. I run a DNS server actually on the same 
server, which serves NFS exports with the only DNS server in resolv.conf 
being itself (over localhost). All clients point to that DNS server and 
only that one. It's authoritative for my home LAN and both forward and 
reverse lookups work and resolve correctly and quickly too. Besides, the 
exports are specified by IP address on the server and the problem still 
occurs even why I mount an export from the client machine using the 
server's IP as opposed to its hostname.


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Re: color display with man pages

2014-07-22 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 22 14:43, Amila Perera wrote:
 Thanks a lot Corinna.
 
 The following setting did the trick for me.
 Now the output on Ubuntu  Fedora looks the same.
 
 Thank you once again.
 
 On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Corinna Vinschen fed...@cygwin.de wrote:
 
  Try this additionally to setting the LESS_TERMCAP_xx vars:
 
export GROFF_NO_SGR=yes

Btw., apart from using less (or most), another neat way to read colored
man pages is to use a browser:

  $ man -Hlynx less


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Re: color display with man pages

2014-07-22 Thread Amila Perera
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Corinna Vinschen fed...@cygwin.de wrote:

 $ man -Hlynx less


It's the first time I ever used such thing.
It looks quite good, especially the hyperlinks etc.

Thank you for the information


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Re: NFS Performance Woes

2014-07-22 Thread Ian Chapman

On 21/07/14 21:27, Ed Greshko wrote:


For all intents and purpose it looks like its working as it should, it's just 
painfully slow.

Any NFS gurus out there, that can tell me what I'm doing wrong?


I've been using NFSv4 extensively for several years and I've not had an issue 
that you describe where everything is fine and then suddenly performance goes 
to hell in a hand basket.


Yeah it's really annoying. I could accept it, if performance was 
terrible all the time. I'd just figure I had some configuration setting 
out of whack, but it's the fact it works great.. then wham. To be honest 
it almost feels as if a cron job overnight it causing something to go 
screwy. It'll run fine all day, the next day, back to shit. That's 
without making any configuration changes.



It sounds as if you only have 2 systems to work with?  No, tiebreaker so to 
speak?


Actually, I have a couple of netbooks which hang off the wifi, although 
the NFS exports are set to read only on those, it's probably worth 
changing that and doing some further testing.



Have you considered running a VM on your client system to see if it is affected 
in the same way?


I hadn't considered that. Good idea. When the client's having a crisis, 
I can spin up the VM on the client and see if that's affected. I guess 
it would it least tell me if it's a hardware/driver quirk or a software 
issue.


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Re: NFS Performance Woes

2014-07-22 Thread Ian Chapman

On 21/07/14 20:14, Tom Horsley wrote:


Any NFS gurus out there, that can tell me what I'm doing wrong?


Not a useful answer, I'm afraid:

In my experience, the fundamental problem is caused by using NFS.

With all the folks re-writing things that don't need to be replaced,
I really wonder why no one seems to be re-writing NFS, which has been
utterly unreliable and trouble prone since day one :-(.


Sure, it has its issues, but to be honest most network file-systems do. 
CIFS is no better and in some ways takes more babysitting than NFS. 
Others don't have wide support amongst many platforms and then there's 
the differences in implementations. Do you use anything instead of NFS? 
I toyed with GlusterFS a few months ago and whilst it worked, following 
various snippets of info on the web, I found the documentation lacking 
and the admin tools confusing.


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Re: new kernels rebooting

2014-07-22 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Paul Cartwright pbcartwri...@gmail.com
wrote:

 is there some command I don't know about that will let you swap to the
 latest kernel without rebooting?


What problems one could face if I were to not reboot my system for a while
and let it update a few kernel versions?

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systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Balint Szigeti
Why doesn't system respect FSH? What is its benefit?
Cite man 7 hier
..
   /usr/lib
  Object libraries, including dynamic libraries, plus some
executables which usually are not invoked directly.  More complicated
pro‐
  grams may have whole subdirectories there.
..
i.e.
man systemd-sysctl
systemd-sysctl.service is an early-boot service that configures
sysctl(8) kernel parameters.
See sysctl.d(5) for information about the configuration of this
service.

man sysctl.d
NAME
   sysctl.d - Configure kernel parameters at boot
SYNOPSIS
   /etc/sysctl.d/*.conf
   /run/sysctl.d/*.conf
   /usr/lib/sysctl.d/*.conf
DESCRIPTION
   At boot, systemd-sysctl.service(8) reads configuration files from
the above directories to configure sysctl(8) kernel parameters.

# ll /etc/sysctl.conf 
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 225 Mar 26 14:55 /etc/sysctl.conf
# ll /etc/sysctl.d/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 14 Apr  3 09:17 99-sysctl.conf - ../sysctl.conf
# cat /etc/sysctl.conf 
# System default settings live in /usr/lib/sysctl.d/00-system.conf.
# To override those settings, enter new settings here, or in
an /etc/sysctl.d/name.conf file
#
# For more information, see sysctl.conf(5) and sysctl.d(5).
[root@szigeti-6560b ~]# cat /usr/lib/sysctl.d/00-system.conf
...

# man -k sysctl|grep systemd
systemd-sysctl (8)   - Configure kernel parameters at boot
systemd-sysctl.service (8) - Configure kernel parameters at boot

man systemd-sysctl.service
NAME
   systemd-sysctl.service, systemd-sysctl - Configure kernel
parameters at boot
SYNOPSIS
   systemd-sysctl.service
   /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-sysctl
DESCRIPTION
   systemd-sysctl.service is an early-boot service that configures
sysctl(8) kernel parameters.
   See sysctl.d(5) for information about the configuration of this
service.
SEE ALSO
   systemd(1), sysctl.d(5), sysctl(8),



I think, the config files should store in /etc instead of everywhere
else. The chroot applications are exceptions. It cause we MUST
mount /usr in / (root) partion.

Balint
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Re: new kernels rebooting

2014-07-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:56:00 +0530
Sudhir Khanger sud...@sudhirkhanger.com wrote:
 
 What problems one could face if I were to not reboot my system for a
 while and let it update a few kernel versions?

Well, for example, a kernel update might be due to some new severe
security exploit, and the old kernel might be vulnerable to it. Running
an old kernel on an Internet-facing system might then be a Bad Idea(tm).

In theory, for each kernel update you could look at the changelog to
see what was actually updated and why, and then decide if you need to
run the updated kernel or not. But most people typically don't want to
invest the time and effort to do that, if it's easier to just reboot
the system. These things should be decided on a case-by-case basis. :-)

HTH, :-)
Marko


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Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:26:57 +0100
Balint Szigeti balint.s...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why doesn't system respect FSH? What is its benefit?
[snip]
 I think, the config files should store in /etc instead of everywhere
 else. The chroot applications are exceptions. It cause we MUST
 mount /usr in / (root) partion.

The _New_Way_ of looking at config files is the following: the
*default*, rpm-provided config files should reside somewhere in /usr,
while the *customized*, manually tweaked (portions of) config files
should reside in /etc. This way there is a clear demarcation between
the package manager territory (/usr) and admin's territory (/etc).

In such a setup the yum update of a given package can update the default
configuration without destroying your customizations. It will also
make /etc much cleaner, easier to examine, fix, migrate, backup, and so
on.

There is a general push to make this happen for all apps, not just
systemd, and you should get used to seeing it all over the place.
I wouldn't be surprised if the near-future Fedora releases have clean
installs with an almost-empty /etc, waiting for you to put your
customizations in it. Personally, I think it's a good idea, and it will
certainly make my own machines much easier to maintain.

Whether this is FSH-compliant or not, I don't know. Some people say it
is, some people say it is not, most of the people don't really care. :-)

HTH, :-)
Marko

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Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 07/22/2014 02:42 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:


Whether this is FSH-compliant or not, I don't know. Some people say it
is, some people say it is not, most of the people don't really care. :-)


The difference is:
Files outside of /etc are not supposed to modified by users or admins.

I.e. shipping config-files out-side of /etc is compliant to the FHS if 
they can be overriden else where below /etc.


In that sense files below /usr aren't user/admin-config files, they are 
package/application defaults.


A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration 
files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr is 
broken by design.


Ralf



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Memory

2014-07-22 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,

Is it normal that /usr/bin/python -Es /usr/sbin/setroublehootd -f (2 shells) 
consumes 8 GO of RAM (i.e. 49% and 46% of the total)?

Thank.

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Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Balint Szigeti


 A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration 
 files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr is 
 broken by design.

pls don't start it. 
I could find anything else. The only reason I've found systemd because I
worked with it nowadays. 

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Re: new kernels rebooting

2014-07-22 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 13:25 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
 In theory, for each kernel update you could look at the changelog to
 see what was actually updated and why, and then decide if you need to
 run the updated kernel or not. But most people typically don't want to
 invest the time and effort to do that

You'd have to understand all the things the update covered, to make
sense of it.  The last update lists all sorts of things that I have no
idea about.

e.g. filter: prevent nla from peeking beyond eom
 Fix dma unmap error in jme driver
 pty race leading to memory corruption
 Fix TUN performance regression
 Add backported drm qxl fix

Unfamiliar acronyms galore!

While that gobbledegook might be of interest to coders, it's beyond what
average computer users are going to want to know about.

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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 07/22/2014 12:16 AM, Tim wrote:

On Mon, 2014-07-21 at 12:34 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I have considerable routing and addressing knowledge.  Besides being
one of the authors of rfc 1918, and worked on CIDR, here at IETF I
contribute to ipv6ops and ipv6man.

Sorry, didn't mean to impune you, but I don't remember who's done what,
so I just took the easy route of asking the obvious question.

The other thing that occurred to me, much later, was zeroconf probably
requires broadcasting to be allowed through the firewall, so that
clients can announce themselves, and the rest can notice their arrival.



avahi-autoipd -D interface

worked on one end.  Can't figure out why it did not on the other.  Fortunately 
that is my own notebook where I just:

ifconfig enp0s18f2u1 169.254.7.246 netmask 255.255.0.0
route add -net 169.254.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 dev enp0s18f2u1 metric 99


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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 07/22/2014 12:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/21/14 22:55, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I have a headless system that I cannot connect to.  So I was thinking to put a 
direct connection to it and my notebook.  Both ethernets would use the zeroconf 
(169.254.0.0/16) addresses.  I could then use fping

fping -g 169.254.0.0/16

And SHOULD be able to get its address, and then SSH into the box.

Any other thoughts?  I can't get to the box to recable it and reboot it (as 
that is the only way I can figure out for it to readdress eth0) until this 
evening.

To turn on zeroconf you need to modify the link to use BOOTPROTO=autoip.  (Shows as 
Local-Link in the nm gui)


But what file is this in now?  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess 
now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my 
ethernet adapter.





You'll then have something along the lines of...

[egreshko@f20f ~]$ route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0  00 p2p1
224.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 240.0.0.0   U 1  00 p2p1



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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 But what file is this in now?  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now 
 with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet 
 adapter. 

Well, ip link will/should give a list of links.

I use network-manager, as I have no fear or need to have my interfaces named 
something other than ethX, and on one system the wired adapter is p2p1 and 
another p128p1.  The wireless links show up as wlXX.

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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

But what file is this in now?  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now 
with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet 
adapter.

Well, ip link will/should give a list of links.


ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode 
DEFAULT group default

link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast 
state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000

link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP 
mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000

link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But I cannot find a script file for p6p1.  Perhaps it only exists when 
the link is up, so where do I put this option?





I use network-manager, as I have no fear or need to have my interfaces named 
something other than ethX, and on one system the wired adapter is p2p1 and 
another p128p1.  The wireless links show up as wlXX.



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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

 On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 But what file is this in now?  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now 
 with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet 
 adapter.
 Well, ip link will/should give a list of links.

 ip link
 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode 
 DEFAULT group default
 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
 2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state 
 DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
 link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
 3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode 
 DORMANT group default qlen 1000
 link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

 But I cannot find a script file for p6p1.  Perhaps it only exists when the 
 link is up, so where do I put this option?



Odd.  First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not connected.  I just 
pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see

[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode 
DEFAULT group default
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state 
DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But the config file still exists.

[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1

Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager?   
(I'm assuming you are using nm).


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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/22/14 00:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 Crossover cable.  Is that enough of a 'same network'? 

FWIW, I've not seen the need to use crossover cables in years.  Even when 
connected peer-to-peer the HW is now capable to detect this situation and auto 
configure itself using standard cables.

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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

But what file is this in now?  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now 
with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet 
adapter.

Well, ip link will/should give a list of links.

ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode 
DEFAULT group default
 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state 
DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
 link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode 
DORMANT group default qlen 1000
 link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But I cannot find a script file for p6p1.  Perhaps it only exists when the link 
is up, so where do I put this option?



Odd.  First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not connected.  I just 
pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see


Well this is on my notebook and the ethernet was not connected at the 
time.  So now it is plugged in via crossover to the server and link is up.



[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode 
DEFAULT group default
 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state 
DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
 link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But the config file still exists.

[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1


But still:

ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*
ls: cannot access /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*: No such file 
or directory




Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager?   
(I'm assuming you are using nm).



I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp.

This is gnome3 on F20...



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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 22 22:19, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 07/22/14 00:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  Crossover cable.  Is that enough of a 'same network'? 
 
 FWIW, I've not seen the need to use crossover cables in years.  Even
 when connected peer-to-peer the HW is now capable to detect this
 situation and auto configure itself using standard cables.

Depends on the network speed of the involved NICs, usually.  10 or 100
Mbit/s NICs typically need crossover cables, 1G NICs and faster provide
auto-negotiation(*).


Corinna


(*) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_Dependent_Interface#Auto_MDI-X
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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/22/14 22:27, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
 On Jul 22 22:19, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 07/22/14 00:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 Crossover cable.  Is that enough of a 'same network'? 
 FWIW, I've not seen the need to use crossover cables in years.  Even
 when connected peer-to-peer the HW is now capable to detect this
 situation and auto configure itself using standard cables.
 Depends on the network speed of the involved NICs, usually.  10 or 100
 Mbit/s NICs typically need crossover cables, 1G NICs and faster provide
 auto-negotiation(*).


Not at all my experience.  Unless you've got really old 10 and 100 mbs HW.


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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 07/22/2014 10:19 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 00:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Crossover cable.  Is that enough of a 'same network'?

FWIW, I've not seen the need to use crossover cables in years.  Even when 
connected peer-to-peer the HW is now capable to detect this situation and auto 
configure itself using standard cables.


Well, yes.  It IS a standard cable and the card(s) are doing the 
crossover operation.  I call it a crossover cable to be clear that there 
is no physical switch hardware between the systems.



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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/22/14 22:43, poma wrote:
 file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
 /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to 
 `/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf'

 # cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf
 [main]
 plugins=keyfile 

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: ASCII text

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf
cat: /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf: No such file or directory

So?

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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/22/14 22:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


 Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager?   
 (I'm assuming you are using nm).


 I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp.

 This is gnome3 on F20...




I don't regularly use gnome.  KDE is my preferred desktop.

But I did bring up gnome in a VM and and when I go to settings for my wired 
connection I can go to the IPv4 settings and under Addresses I am given the 
choice of Automatic (DHCP), manual, and Local Link. 

For zeroconf you want to choose local link


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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 07/22/2014 10:27 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

On Jul 22 22:19, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 00:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Crossover cable.  Is that enough of a 'same network'?

FWIW, I've not seen the need to use crossover cables in years.  Even
when connected peer-to-peer the HW is now capable to detect this
situation and auto configure itself using standard cables.

Depends on the network speed of the involved NICs, usually.  10 or 100
Mbit/s NICs typically need crossover cables, 1G NICs and faster provide
auto-negotiation(*).



(*) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_Dependent_Interface#Auto_MDI-X
There are SOME 100Mb that work OK.  But watch for the 2 wire 100Mb with 
POE coming out probably in a year or two.  The target market is for 
sensors (in buildings) or car networks.  Vastly lowered wire costs.


No crossover needed, as it is all on 1 pair of wires!

The 1 pair PoDL is 802.3bu.  The 100Mb is still a study group.  I think 
the PAR will be ready for the November meeting.



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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread poma

On 22.07.2014 16:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

But what file is this in now?  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now 
with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet 
adapter.

Well, ip link will/should give a list of links.

ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode 
DEFAULT group default
  link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state 
DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
  link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode 
DORMANT group default qlen 1000
  link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But I cannot find a script file for p6p1.  Perhaps it only exists when the link 
is up, so where do I put this option?



Odd.  First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not connected.  I just 
pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see


Well this is on my notebook and the ethernet was not connected at the
time.  So now it is plugged in via crossover to the server and link is up.


[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode 
DEFAULT group default
  link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state 
DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
  link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But the config file still exists.

[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1


But still:

ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*
ls: cannot access /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*: No such file
or directory



Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager?   
(I'm assuming you are using nm).



I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp.

This is gnome3 on F20...



:)

# file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to 
`/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf'

# cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf
[main]
plugins=keyfile

[keyfile]
...

# ll /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
# rpm -ql NetworkManager | grep man
# rpm -qi $(rpm -qf /usr/lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service)


poma

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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 07/22/2014 10:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 22:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager?   
(I'm assuming you are using nm).



I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp.

This is gnome3 on F20...




I don't regularly use gnome.  KDE is my preferred desktop.

But I did bring up gnome in a VM and and when I go to settings for my wired connection I can go 
to the IPv4 settings and under Addresses I am given the choice of Automatic (DHCP), manual, and 
Local Link.

For zeroconf you want to choose local link
I don't want a permanent change.  If no DHCP, I want zeroconf.  If DHCP 
use it.  This option does not seem to be available.



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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 07/22/2014 10:43 AM, poma wrote:

On 22.07.2014 16:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
But what file is this in now? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a 
mess now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find 
any for my ethernet adapter.

Well, ip link will/should give a list of links.

ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
mode DEFAULT group default

  link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc 
pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000

  link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq 
state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000

  link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But I cannot find a script file for p6p1.  Perhaps it only exists 
when the link is up, so where do I put this option?



Odd.  First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not 
connected.  I just pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see


Well this is on my notebook and the ethernet was not connected at the
time.  So now it is plugged in via crossover to the server and link 
is up.



[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
mode DEFAULT group default

  link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc 
pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000

  link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But the config file still exists.

[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1


But still:

ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*
ls: cannot access /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*: No such file
or directory


Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network 
manager?   (I'm assuming you are using nm).




I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp.

This is gnome3 on F20...



:)

# file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to 
`/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf'


# cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf
[main]
plugins=keyfile

[keyfile]
...

# file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: ASCII text
# cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf
cat: /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf: No such file or 
directory


#cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[main]
plugins=ifcfg-rh



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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/22/14 22:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 I don't want a permanent change.  If no DHCP, I want zeroconf.  If DHCP use 
 it.  This option does not seem to be available.

Oh, I've never seen a case where you could have a fall back position.

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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread poma

On 22.07.2014 16:43, poma wrote:

On 22.07.2014 16:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

But what file is this in now?  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a mess now 
with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find any for my ethernet 
adapter.

Well, ip link will/should give a list of links.

ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode 
DEFAULT group default
   link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state 
DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
   link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode 
DORMANT group default qlen 1000
   link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But I cannot find a script file for p6p1.  Perhaps it only exists when the link 
is up, so where do I put this option?



Odd.  First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not connected.  I just 
pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see


Well this is on my notebook and the ethernet was not connected at the
time.  So now it is plugged in via crossover to the server and link is up.


[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode 
DEFAULT group default
   link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state 
DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
   link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But the config file still exists.

[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1


But still:

ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*
ls: cannot access /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*: No such file
or directory



Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network manager?   
(I'm assuming you are using nm).



I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp.

This is gnome3 on F20...



:)

# file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to 
`/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf'

# cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf
[main]
plugins=keyfile

[keyfile]
...

# ll /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
# rpm -ql NetworkManager | grep man
# rpm -qi $(rpm -qf /usr/lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service)



in addition
# grep ^hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf
# man 5 nsswitch.conf
http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/nss-mdns/
# man 5 avahi.hosts
# man 5 avahi-daemon.conf

In the end it turns out that 'ZeroConf' ain't really configless. :)


poma

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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread poma

On 22.07.2014 16:57, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 07/22/2014 10:43 AM, poma wrote:

On 22.07.2014 16:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

But what file is this in now? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a
mess now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't find
any for my ethernet adapter.

Well, ip link will/should give a list of links.

ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
mode DEFAULT group default
   link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc
pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
   link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq
state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000
   link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But I cannot find a script file for p6p1.  Perhaps it only exists
when the link is up, so where do I put this option?



Odd.  First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not
connected.  I just pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see


Well this is on my notebook and the ethernet was not connected at the
time.  So now it is plugged in via crossover to the server and link
is up.


[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
mode DEFAULT group default
   link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc
pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
   link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But the config file still exists.

[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1


But still:

ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*
ls: cannot access /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*: No such file
or directory



Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network
manager?   (I'm assuming you are using nm).



I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp.

This is gnome3 on F20...



:)

# file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to
`/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf'

# cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf
[main]
plugins=keyfile

[keyfile]
...

# file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: ASCII text
# cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf
cat: /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf: No such file or
directory

#cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[main]
plugins=ifcfg-rh



:)

# ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg*
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-lo


poma


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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 07/22/2014 10:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 22:43, poma wrote:

file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to 
`/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf'

# cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf
[main]
plugins=keyfile

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: ASCII text

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf
cat: /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf: No such file or directory

So?


My files are different than yours.  No symlink.

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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 07/22/2014 10:54 AM, poma wrote:

On 22.07.2014 16:43, poma wrote:

On 22.07.2014 16:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
But what file is this in now? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is 
a mess now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't 
find any for my ethernet adapter.

Well, ip link will/should give a list of links.

ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state 
UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default

   link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc 
pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000

   link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq 
state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000

   link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But I cannot find a script file for p6p1.  Perhaps it only exists 
when the link is up, so where do I put this option?



Odd.  First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not 
connected.  I just pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see


Well this is on my notebook and the ethernet was not connected at the
time.  So now it is plugged in via crossover to the server and link 
is up.



[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
mode DEFAULT group default

   link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc 
pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000

   link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But the config file still exists.

[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1


But still:

ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*
ls: cannot access /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*: No such file
or directory


Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network 
manager?   (I'm assuming you are using nm).




I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp.

This is gnome3 on F20...



:)

# file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to 
`/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf'


# cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf
[main]
plugins=keyfile

[keyfile]
...

# ll /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
# rpm -ql NetworkManager | grep man
# rpm -qi $(rpm -qf /usr/lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service)



in addition
# grep ^hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf
# man 5 nsswitch.conf
http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/nss-mdns/
# man 5 avahi.hosts
# man 5 avahi-daemon.conf

In the end it turns out that 'ZeroConf' ain't really configless. :)


Today

avahi-autoipd -D p6p1

is working.  Well yesterday, I had to use my internal ethernet on my 
notebook for internet connection, as WiFi was down, so I was using a 
D-link USB ethernet.  Today, WiFi is up so using the internal ethernet.  
Must be something about the drivers or such.  Anyway if you want 
zeroconf for a 'one time' thing, this is the command.  What I really 
want is if no DHCP, use zeroconf.  I think it use to work this way.


Though I can see why not to move fully into the IPv6 world.  There is 
no DHCPv4 stupid because there is no IPv4 here!  :)


From the 'driver' behind rfc1918 and a big backer of IPv6 (use Teredo 
if you must!).  :)'



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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 07/22/2014 10:55 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 22:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I don't want a permanent change.  If no DHCP, I want zeroconf.  If DHCP use it. 
 This option does not seem to be available.

Oh, I've never seen a case where you could have a fall back position.

This is what Windoz has always done!  M$ is the author of the zeroconf 
B-class network and how to compute your address; they even patented it 
and made it available to the workgroup.  I worked in that IETF group 
long ago.


The idea of zeroconf was to get local networking working automagically 
when nothing exists to provide routeable addressing. The whole point of 
'zeroconf'.  Of course this lead into discovering your devices on the 
network and adopting the Bounjour Apple work.


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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread poma

On 22.07.2014 17:27, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 07/22/2014 10:54 AM, poma wrote:

On 22.07.2014 16:43, poma wrote:

On 22.07.2014 16:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

But what file is this in now? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is
a mess now with scripts for each wifi connection and I can't
find any for my ethernet adapter.

Well, ip link will/should give a list of links.

ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state
UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p6p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc
pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
link/ether e8:9a:8f:8d:7b:56 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlp4s0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq
state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000
link/ether ac:81:12:9c:e0:95 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But I cannot find a script file for p6p1.  Perhaps it only exists
when the link is up, so where do I put this option?



Odd.  First off, NO-CARRIER would suggest the link is not
connected.  I just pulled the plug on one of my systems and I see


Well this is on my notebook and the ethernet was not connected at the
time.  So now it is plugged in via crossover to the server and link
is up.


[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ip link
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
mode DEFAULT group default
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: p2p1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc
pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
link/ether 08:00:27:b7:04:4a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

But the config file still exists.

[egreshko@f20f ~]$ ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1


But still:

ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*
ls: cannot access /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p*: No such file
or directory



Do you have access to the system to use the GUI tools of network
manager?   (I'm assuming you are using nm).



I cannot see anyplace to specify use zeroconf if no dhcp.

This is gnome3 on F20...



:)

# file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: symbolic link to
`/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf'

# cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/keyfile-plugin.conf
[main]
plugins=keyfile

[keyfile]
...

# ll /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
# rpm -ql NetworkManager | grep man
# rpm -qi $(rpm -qf /usr/lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service)



in addition
# grep ^hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf
# man 5 nsswitch.conf
http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/nss-mdns/
# man 5 avahi.hosts
# man 5 avahi-daemon.conf

In the end it turns out that 'ZeroConf' ain't really configless. :)


Today

avahi-autoipd -D p6p1

is working.  Well yesterday, I had to use my internal ethernet on my
notebook for internet connection, as WiFi was down, so I was using a
D-link USB ethernet.  Today, WiFi is up so using the internal ethernet.
Must be something about the drivers or such.  Anyway if you want
zeroconf for a 'one time' thing, this is the command.  What I really
want is if no DHCP, use zeroconf.  I think it use to work this way.

Though I can see why not to move fully into the IPv6 world.  There is
no DHCPv4 stupid because there is no IPv4 here!  :)

  From the 'driver' behind rfc1918 and a big backer of IPv6 (use Teredo
if you must!).  :)'



Don't worry about it. Lennart 'll figure it out for us. :)
[systemd-devel] mdns support to networkd
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-June/020362.html


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vncserver not starting today

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz
OK.  New day, new testing.  I can get IPv4 setup quickly and routing 
right.  Yeah me (with a little help from my friends I got by)!


So I go to start vncserver where I was up to yesterday where I got the 
display wrong and get:


# systemctl start vncserver@:3.service
Job for vncserver@:3.service failed. See 'systemctl status 
vncserver@:3.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details.


# systemctl -l status vncserver@:3.service
vncserver@:3.service - Remote desktop service (VNC)
   Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/vncserver@:3.service; enabled)
   Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2010-01-01 00:28:15 
EST; 35s ago
  Process: 952 ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l rgm -c /usr/bin/vncserver %i  
(code=exited, status=2)
  Process: 949 ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c /usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i  
/dev/null 21 || : (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: vncserver@:3.service: 
control process exited, code=exited status=2
Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Failed to start Remote 
desktop service (VNC).
Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Unit 
vncserver@:3.service entered failed state.


So now what?  It worked yesterday

I can't find anything I did yesterday that I am not doing today.


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Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:03:39 +0200
Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:
 
 A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration 
 files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr
 is broken by design.

Agreed, but I don't seem to fully understand your point here. Are you
suggesting that there are packages which are currently broken in this
way? Do you know of any examples? If not, why did you raise this point?

Best, :-)
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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/22/14 23:32, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

 On 07/22/2014 10:55 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 07/22/14 22:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 I don't want a permanent change.  If no DHCP, I want zeroconf.  If DHCP use 
 it.  This option does not seem to be available.
 Oh, I've never seen a case where you could have a fall back position.

 This is what Windoz has always done!  M$ is the author of the zeroconf 
 B-class network and how to compute your address; they even patented it and 
 made it available to the workgroup.  I worked in that IETF group long ago.

 The idea of zeroconf was to get local networking working automagically when 
 nothing exists to provide routeable addressing. The whole point of 
 'zeroconf'.  Of course this lead into discovering your devices on the network 
 and adopting the Bounjour Apple work.


Well, I should have said I've not seen that in Linux.  And I don't do windows.  
:-)

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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 07/22/2014 01:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 23:32, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 07/22/2014 10:55 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/14 22:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I don't want a permanent change.  If no DHCP, I want zeroconf.  If DHCP use it. 
 This option does not seem to be available.

Oh, I've never seen a case where you could have a fall back position.


This is what Windoz has always done!  M$ is the author of the zeroconf B-class 
network and how to compute your address; they even patented it and made it 
available to the workgroup.  I worked in that IETF group long ago.

The idea of zeroconf was to get local networking working automagically when 
nothing exists to provide routeable addressing. The whole point of 'zeroconf'.  
Of course this lead into discovering your devices on the network and adopting 
the Bounjour Apple work.


Well, I should have said I've not seen that in Linux.  And I don't do windows.  
:-)

If I go back far enough with my linux testing, I remember zeroconf 
working.  Or at least I think so; am going back quite a while. Probably 
before adding avahi.


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Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de writes:

 A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration
 files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr
 is broken by design.

 Both python and perl come with mechanisms to add their respective
native packages under /usr/lib/... Do you consider those packages
broken? PHP comes with pecl, that installs native packages under
/usr/share/php, so the same question applies there.

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Re: [F20, KDE] color profile applied 1 s and then disappears

2014-07-22 Thread Frédéric Bron
Hi, thanks for help,

 I installed a color profile for my LCD monitor.

 Where did it come from?

I measured it with a colorimeter using argyllcms.

 What do you get for?
 colormgr get-devices

...
Object Path:   
/org/freedesktop/ColorManager/devices/xrandr_Chi_Mei_Optoelectronics_corp__fred_1000
...
Type:  display
Enabled:   Yes
Embedded:  Yes
Model: P170HMx
Vendor:Clevo
Serial:unknown
Seat:  seat0
Scope: temp
Colorspace:rgb
Device ID: xrandr-Chi Mei Optoelectronics corp.
Profile 1: icc-9eb6fda60c1c8fcffd3111c8931dd354
   
/var/lib/colord/icc/P170HMx-nvidia-brightness4.2014-01-12_22-58-25.precise_matrix.icc
Profile 2: icc-3e9bad7a0d3e98539aff767539cc891d
   
/home/fred/.local/share/icc/edid-67b7d71da13bf89f5583ec6c33a36b1b.icc
Metadata:  OutputPriority=primary
Metadata:  XRANDR_name=LVDS-0
Metadata:  OwnerCmdline=kded4
Metadata:  OutputEdidMd5=67b7d71da13bf89f5583ec6c33a36b1b

 When I start KDE, the
 correct profile is applied but 1second later, it is disabled. I see
 that because the background picture changes dramatically. Why?

 Can you see anything in the journal at the time of starting KDE and 
 subsequent disabling?

The log is attached. What follows may be relevant. It seems to me that
the profile is correctly applied. I do not see anything removing it.
However, I discovered that without the nvidia proprietary driver,
there is no issue... I filed a bug at nvidia but I doubt anybody will
answer...
https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/762690/linux/after-a-few-seconds-the-display-color-profile-is-back-to-default-fedora-20-kde4-/

colord[842]: Profile added: icc-47e361dbcd0364df8d8878267f9d3810
colord[842]: Profile
added: icc-3e9bad7a0d3e98539aff767539cc891d
   colord[842]: Automatic database add
icc-3e9bad7a0d3e98539aff767539cc891d to xrandr-Chi Mei Optoelectronics
corp.
colord[842]: Automatic database add
icc-9eb6fda60c1c8fcffd3111c8931dd354 to xrandr-Chi Mei Optoelectronics
corp.
colord[842]: Automatic metadata add
icc-3e9bad7a0d3e98539aff767539cc891d to xrandr-Chi Mei Optoelectronics
corp.
colord[842]: Device added: xrandr-Chi Mei Optoelectronics corp.

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Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Anders Wegge Kelle wrote:

 Ralf Corsepius writes:

  A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration
  files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr
  is broken by design.

  Both python and perl come with mechanisms to add their respective
 native packages under /usr/lib/... Do you consider those packages
 broken? PHP comes with pecl, that installs native packages under
 /usr/share/php, so the same question applies there.


Not really.   Ralf is talking about configuration in /usr and not other
type of data (ie) the configuration in /usr is just fine as long as there
is a way for the user to override it.  systemd does provide a number of
options to do that.

Rahul
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Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Joe Zeff

On 07/22/2014 12:26 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote:

Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de writes:


A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration
files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr
is broken by design.


  Both python and perl come with mechanisms to add their respective
native packages under /usr/lib/... Do you consider those packages
broken? PHP comes with pecl, that installs native packages under
/usr/share/php, so the same question applies there.



Are you talking about the packages or the configuration files?
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CPU/Memory

2014-07-22 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,

I have 2 machines running fedora 20, one from 2007 with a dual processor
and 3 Go, and a recent one (2013) with a quad processor an 8 Go.
But it is a lot more convenient to use the old machine!!!
The recent one is always busy, 4 processors running
53.1 55.9 /usr/bin/python -Es /usr/sbin/setroublesootd -f
 and the memory becomes full quickly requiring swapping!!
8 Go for the OS and firefox! Something is wrong.

Should I kill setroublesootd?

What is wrong? I cannot see.

Thank.



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Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/23/14 01:41, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 If I go back far enough with my linux testing, I remember zeroconf working.  
 Or at least I think so; am going back quite a while. Probably before adding 
 avahi. 

Now that you mention it, you are most probably right.  I recall there always 
being a 169.254.0.0 in my routing table.  But by force of habit I always placed 
nozeroconf=yes in my network scripts.

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Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes:

 On 07/22/2014 12:26 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote:
  Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de writes:
 
  A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration
  files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr
  is broken by design.
 
Both python and perl come with mechanisms to add their respective
  native packages under /usr/lib/... Do you consider those packages
  broken? PHP comes with pecl, that installs native packages under
  /usr/share/php, so the same question applies there.
 
 
 Are you talking about the packages or the configuration files?

 The specific wording: requires users to modify files below /usr.

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Re: vncserver not starting today

2014-07-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/23/14 01:02, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 OK.  New day, new testing.  I can get IPv4 setup quickly and routing right.  
 Yeah me (with a little help from my friends I got by)!

 So I go to start vncserver where I was up to yesterday where I got the 
 display wrong and get:

 # systemctl start vncserver@:3.service
 Job for vncserver@:3.service failed. See 'systemctl status 
 vncserver@:3.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details.

 # systemctl -l status vncserver@:3.service
 vncserver@:3.service - Remote desktop service (VNC)
Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/vncserver@:3.service; enabled)
Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2010-01-01 00:28:15 EST; 35s 
 ago
   Process: 952 ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l rgm -c /usr/bin/vncserver %i  
 (code=exited, status=2)
   Process: 949 ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c /usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i  
 /dev/null 21 || : (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
 Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: vncserver@:3.service: control 
 process exited, code=exited status=2
 Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Failed to start Remote 
 desktop service (VNC).
 Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Unit vncserver@:3.service 
 entered failed state.

 So now what?  It worked yesterday

 I can't find anything I did yesterday that I am not doing today.



Do you happen to have a ~/.vnc/*.pid file present?

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Re: vncserver not starting today

2014-07-22 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 22 Jul 2014 at 13:02, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Date sent:  Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:02:02 -0400
From:   Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com
To: Community support for Fedora users 
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Subject:vncserver not starting today
Send reply to:  Community support for Fedora users 
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 OK.  New day, new testing.  I can get IPv4 setup quickly and routing
 right.  Yeah me (with a little help from my friends I got by)!
 
 So I go to start vncserver where I was up to yesterday where I got the
 display wrong and get:
 
 # systemctl start vncserver@:3.service
 Job for vncserver@:3.service failed. See 'systemctl status 
 vncserver@:3.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details.
 
 # systemctl -l status vncserver@:3.service
 vncserver@:3.service - Remote desktop service (VNC)
 Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/vncserver@:3.service; enabled)
 Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2010-01-01 00:28:15 
 EST; 35s ago
Process: 952 ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l rgm -c /usr/bin/vncserver
%i  
 (code=exited, status=2)
Process: 949 ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c /usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i 
 /dev/null 21 || : (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Jan 01 00:28:15
 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: vncserver@:3.service: control process
 exited, code=exited status=2 Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com
 systemd[1]: Failed to start Remote desktop service (VNC). Jan 01
 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Unit vncserver@:3.service
 entered failed state.
 
 So now what?  It worked yesterday
 

Check if there is a /tmp/.X11-unix/X3 file.
It is suppose to be removed with a normal shutdown, but sometimes isn't and 
causes the vnc not to start. I used a cron.hourly script that would check if 
vnc 
serve running, and if not, it would remove the file, and then use systemctl to 
restart the service.


 I can't find anything I did yesterday that I am not doing today.
 
 
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Re: CPU/Memory

2014-07-22 Thread Rick Stevens

On 07/22/2014 01:23 PM, Patrick Dupre issued this missive:

Hello,

I have 2 machines running fedora 20, one from 2007 with a dual processor
and 3 Go, and a recent one (2013) with a quad processor an 8 Go.
But it is a lot more convenient to use the old machine!!!
The recent one is always busy, 4 processors running
53.1 55.9 /usr/bin/python -Es /usr/sbin/setroublesootd -f
  and the memory becomes full quickly requiring swapping!!
8 Go for the OS and firefox! Something is wrong.

Should I kill setroublesootd?


The first thing is to see why you're getting AVC denials from SELinux
in the first place. setroubleshootd should only fire if it's getting
denials. Try running sealert -b and see if you're getting denials and
what you can do about them.

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Problems with Fedora 20

2014-07-22 Thread Roger

Couple of things seem to have gone awry.

I think Ubuntu update to 14.04 has messed around with Fedora 20 grub 
boot because booting now  takes for ever and defaults to  Ctrl D to 
Continue or root password for maintenance, then takes 30-50 seconds to boot.


2nd, With the  latest updates and kernel-3.15.5-200.fc20.x86_64 
something seems wrong. The machine used to be quite fast but now is very 
slow.
 Any processes like opening and deleting emails, screen refresh, 
opening or closing files is very slow and the hard drive is working 
overtime with every mouse click or key press.
CPUs are running at 20-50%, memory runs at 85%, temp directory is 
running overtime.


Whereas performing the same in ubuntu 14.04, 386 memory runs around 35%, 
cpu's 20-50%, no hard drive temp used at all, and emails open and delete 
immediately.


I have cleaned repositories, removed unused files and software in both 
setups, run sudo yum autoclean, sudo yum clean packages. top shows 
nothing untoward.


I am running 3.15.4-200.fc20.x86_64 for this email and the system seems 
to be better but the hard drive works overtime with each change.

 kernel-3.14.8-200.fc20.x86_6 produces inode errors and boot fails.

There is a command to rebuild grub boot but I don't remember the 
details, can someone please point me to how this should be done.

What should I look for as to why the system is not operating as before.
Help much appreciated
thanks
Roger


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Re: Problems with Fedora 20

2014-07-22 Thread JD
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Roger are...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Couple of things seem to have gone awry.

 I think Ubuntu update to 14.04 has messed around with Fedora 20 grub boot
 because booting now  takes for ever and defaults to  Ctrl D to Continue or
 root password for maintenance, then takes 30-50 seconds to boot.

 2nd, With the  latest updates and kernel-3.15.5-200.fc20.x86_64 something
 seems wrong. The machine used to be quite fast but now is very slow.
  Any processes like opening and deleting emails, screen refresh, opening
 or closing files is very slow and the hard drive is working overtime with
 every mouse click or key press.
 CPUs are running at 20-50%, memory runs at 85%, temp directory is running
 overtime.

 Whereas performing the same in ubuntu 14.04, 386 memory runs around 35%,
 cpu's 20-50%, no hard drive temp used at all, and emails open and delete
 immediately.

 I have cleaned repositories, removed unused files and software in both
 setups, run sudo yum autoclean, sudo yum clean packages. top shows nothing
 untoward.

 I am running 3.15.4-200.fc20.x86_64 for this email and the system seems to
 be better but the hard drive works overtime with each change.
  kernel-3.14.8-200.fc20.x86_6 produces inode errors and boot fails.

 There is a command to rebuild grub boot but I don't remember the details,
 can someone please point me to how this should be done.
 What should I look for as to why the system is not operating as before.
 Help much appreciated
 thanks
 Roger


​Do you see any error reports in /var/log/messages ?​

​Do you see any error reports when running dmesg?
You might want to post those error messages to shed
more light on the problem.​
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Re: color display with man pages

2014-07-22 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 07/22/14 04:55, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
 On Jul 22 13:37, Amila Perera wrote:
 Thank you for your feedback.


 On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I tried with bash, it seems to work ... somewhat.  I see a yellow status
 at the bottom, but otherwise I see a regular man page.  When I `type
 man' after defining your function, I get a few colours among the variable
 definitions (blue, red, and underlined).


 Well, I only get the yellow status line color and some variables getting
 bold.
 I have never tried this with bash, though.
 
 Try this additionally to setting the LESS_TERMCAP_xx vars:
 
   export GROFF_NO_SGR=yes
 

Hey Corinna,

Could you share some more details on how to use the LESS_TERMCAP_xx
vars and export GROFF_NO_SGR=yes commands?  I'm assuming that you put
them in your .bashrc file, no?

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Re: color display with man pages

2014-07-22 Thread Jatin K

On Tuesday 22 July 2014 12:14 PM, Amila Perera wrote:

Thank you Jatin.

I knew 'most' would work.
It is able to display colours as well.

But I am used to 'less' and its key bindings.

I am quite puzzled as why the termcap settings for less don't work in 
Fedora20.


Do you have any explanations??

Just a few hours ago I installed CentOS 7 and it worked fine there too 
with KDE.

Do you know any sort of workaround to this problem??


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Jatin K ssh.fed...@gmail.com 
mailto:ssh.fed...@gmail.com wrote:


On Monday 21 July 2014 11:42 PM, Amila Perera wrote:

Hi all,

This is my first mail on fedora mailing list.

I can't get the following to display colours with LESS command on
my terminal,
when viewing man pages.
I am using Fedora 20 with KDE. My shell is zsh.
---
man()
{
env LESS_TERMCAP_mb=$'\E[01;31m' \
LESS_TERMCAP_md=$'\E[01;34m' \
LESS_TERMCAP_me=$'\E[0m' \
LESS_TERMCAP_se=$'\E[0m' \
LESS_TERMCAP_so=$'\E[01;33;40m' \
LESS_TERMCAP_ue=$'\E[0m' \
LESS_TERMCAP_us=$'\E[01;04;35m' \
man $@
}



have you tried most ..??

try following

yum install most

export PAGER=most

or

export PAGER=/usr/bin/most -s

now try to viewing man for any command

say

man date






may be this[1],  can help

[1] 
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/108699/documentation-on-less-termcap-variables



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Re: vncserver not starting today

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 07/22/2014 06:55 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

On 22 Jul 2014 at 13:02, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Date sent:  Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:02:02 -0400
From:   Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com
To: Community support for Fedora users
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Subject:vncserver not starting today
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OK.  New day, new testing.  I can get IPv4 setup quickly and routing
right.  Yeah me (with a little help from my friends I got by)!

So I go to start vncserver where I was up to yesterday where I got the
display wrong and get:

# systemctl start vncserver@:3.service
Job for vncserver@:3.service failed. See 'systemctl status
vncserver@:3.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details.

# systemctl -l status vncserver@:3.service
vncserver@:3.service - Remote desktop service (VNC)
 Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/vncserver@:3.service; enabled)
 Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2010-01-01 00:28:15
EST; 35s ago
Process: 952 ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l rgm -c /usr/bin/vncserver
%i
(code=exited, status=2)
Process: 949 ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c /usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i 
/dev/null 21 || : (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Jan 01 00:28:15
cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: vncserver@:3.service: control process
exited, code=exited status=2 Jan 01 00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com
systemd[1]: Failed to start Remote desktop service (VNC). Jan 01
00:28:15 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Unit vncserver@:3.service
entered failed state.

So now what?  It worked yesterday


Check if there is a /tmp/.X11-unix/X3 file.
It is suppose to be removed with a normal shutdown, but sometimes isn't and
causes the vnc not to start. I used a cron.hourly script that would check if vnc
serve running, and if not, it would remove the file, and then use systemctl to
restart the service.


That might have been it. I had just pulled the plug on the last 
shutdown. This time I did a proper poweroff and powered on, and it is 
starting.


# systemctl -l status vncserver@:3.service
vncserver@:3.service - Remote desktop service (VNC)
Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/vncserver@:3.service; enabled)
Active: active (running) since Wed 2014-07-23 01:13:16 EDT; 8min ago
Process: 1172 ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l rgm -c /usr/bin/vncserver %i 
(code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
Process: 1169 ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c /usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i  
/dev/null 21 || : (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)

Main PID: 1196 (Xvnc)
CGroup: /system.slice/system-vncserver.slice/vncserver@:3.service
‣ 1196 /usr/bin/Xvnc :3 -desktop cb2.htt-consult.com:3 (rgm) -auth 
/home/rgm/.Xauthority -geometry 1024x768 -rfbwait 3 -rfbauth 
/home/rgm/.vnc/passwd -rfbport 5903 -fp catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d -pn


Jul 23 01:13:16 cb2.htt-consult.com systemd[1]: Started Remote desktop 
service (VNC).



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vnc not into gnome but Xfce but still not working

2014-07-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz

OK.  I believe I figured out what is wrongish.

I normally run gnome, so in my ~/.vnc/xstartup I have:

exec gnome-session 

as the last line.  But this fedora 20 arm system is running Xfce! So 
after a quick google search, I changed that to:


exec xfce4-session 

But still I get vnc having a blank screen.  That no desktop is running 
in vnc.  /var/log/messages says:


Jul 23 01:38:55 cb2 runuser: New 'cb2.htt-consult.com:3 (rgm)' desktop 
is cb2.htt-consult.com:3
Jul 23 01:38:55 cb2 runuser: Starting applications specified in 
/home/rgm/.vnc/xstartup
Jul 23 01:38:55 cb2 runuser: Log file is 
/home/rgm/.vnc/cb2.htt-consult.com:3.log

Jul 23 01:38:55 cb2 systemd: Started Remote desktop service (VNC).


/home/rgm/.vnc/cb2.htt-consult.com:3.log says:

Xvnc TigerVNC 1.3.0 - built Mar 19 2014 17:22:24
Copyright (C) 1999-2011 TigerVNC Team and many others (see README.txt)
See http://www.tigervnc.org for information on TigerVNC.
Underlying X server release 11404000, The X.Org Foundation

Initializing built-in extension VNC-EXTENSION
Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
Initializing built-in extension XTEST
Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
Initializing built-in extension SYNC
Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
Initializing built-in extension RENDER
Initializing built-in extension RANDR
Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
Initializing built-in extension RECORD
Initializing built-in extension DPMS
Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
Initializing built-in extension XVideo
Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
Initializing built-in extension GLX

Wed Jul 23 01:38:52 2014
 vncext:  VNC extension running!
 vncext:  Listening for VNC connections on all interface(s), port 5903
 vncext:  created VNC server for screen 0

Wed Jul 23 01:39:05 2014
 Connections: accepted: 169.254.7.250::43934
 SConnection: Client needs protocol version 3.8
 SConnection: Client requests security type VncAuth(2)

Wed Jul 23 01:39:08 2014
 VNCSConnST:  Server default pixel format depth 24 (32bpp) 
little-endian rgb888

 VNCSConnST:  Client pixel format depth 24 (32bpp) little-endian rgb888

Wed Jul 23 01:39:32 2014
 Connections: closed: 169.254.7.250::43934 (Clean disconnection)
 SMsgWriter:  framebuffer updates 6
 SMsgWriter:Tight rects 17, bytes 1855
 SMsgWriter:raw bytes equivalent 5849792, compression ratio 3153.526685


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