[389-users] Export the object definitions only
Hi Gurus, I would like to know how can I export only the objects definitons aka :roles, ac's definitons not the DS data content, we would like to be able have a copy of definition for development purpose. Thank you Isabella -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up
On 09/09/14 13:21, antonio montagnani wrote: 1) In a normal operation (but I am online by wireless card): systemctl status network.service network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network) Active: inactive (dead) Strange as it may seem, this is normal. [egreshko@meimei ~]$ systemctl status network.service network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network) Active: inactive (dead) [egreshko@meimei ~]$ systemctl status network.target network.target - Network Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/network.target; static) Active: active since Wed 2014-09-03 08:53:04 CST; 6 days ago Docs: man:systemd.special(7) http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Starting Network. Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Reached target Network. [egreshko@meimei ~]$ systemctl status network-online.target network-online.target - Network is Online Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/network-online.target; static) Active: active since Wed 2014-09-03 08:53:04 CST; 6 days ago Docs: man:systemd.special(7) http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Starting Network is Online. Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Reached target Network is Online. 2) Ed, do you mean that waiting for a minute or two is too short? :-) That is what some are suggesting. I've seen cases, prior to systemd when things were done in serial fashion, that bootup will be delayed for a time for network related issues. Eventually it would time out and startup would complete but the process causing the delay (most often sendmail) would enter the failed state. 3) I repeat, this behaviour is not constant OK. I, for one, am not yet convinced that the issue is network related. You say you're up using WiFi. The question would bedoes the problem happen when coming up with the wired connection and Wifi? Another thing to do is When you have a successful boot after a failed boot. journalctl -b -1 failed.boot The file should not be very large and you can upload it using fpaste for people to examine. -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evernote client?
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:53 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: I should have mentioned that I've already glanced at Geeknote and Nixnote (Nevernote), but neither appears to have a Fedora package. Nixnote 2 provides a RPM. I have tried it myself but it is development. Nixnote 1 was Java based which makes it tad slow and resource hungry. There is also NvPY which syncs with Simplenote. https://github.com/cpbotha/nvpy -- Regards, Sudhir Khanger. sudhirkhanger.com https://github.com/donniezazen -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
is it the future?
hello all I've just read this artic. http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html What do you think guyes? Does systemd really want to be the 'core-engine' for an OS? It sound ridiculous for me. As I remember their target was (only) replace the init, then they did more and more, they pushed the targets over and over, which is not bad but just think. 1) replace init - get a new process/service scheduler/maintaner 2) write a new logging system.journalctl 3) hard-code the dhcp and ntp client into systemd... why? just gain the control. maybe there were more, I haven't read everything about systemd.. 4) anything could be, like the article... what next? replace the kernel, write an own X and GUI for only systemd? and in the future we will have systemd OS for money which was developed by community and some people just gain the lead and control. They will displace everything else, and convince the HW and SW vendor (proprietary) to ship their product to systemd OS then voilà, they win. I have a bad feeling, systemd will become a 'perfect' OS then the systemd owners will change the license to commercial and they will just use the community code (the US lawyers can reach anything) and they will have a perfect code and get billions of money. Maybe I have watched too many films but all steps lead to the same direction. Balint -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: is it the future?
On 9 September 2014 08:55, Balint Szigeti balint.s...@gmail.com wrote: hello all I've just read this artic. http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html What do you think guyes? Does systemd really want to be the 'core-engine' for an OS? It sound ridiculous for me. As I remember their target was (only) replace the init, then they did more and more, they pushed the targets over and over, which is not bad but just think. 1) replace init - get a new process/service scheduler/maintaner 2) write a new logging system.journalctl 3) hard-code the dhcp and ntp client into systemd... why? just gain the control. maybe there were more, I haven't read everything about systemd.. 4) anything could be, like the article... what next? replace the kernel, write an own X and GUI for only systemd? and in the future we will have systemd OS for money which was developed by community and some people just gain the lead and control. They will displace everything else, and convince the HW and SW vendor (proprietary) to ship their product to systemd OS then voilà, they win. I have a bad feeling, systemd will become a 'perfect' OS then the systemd owners will change the license to commercial and they will just use the community code (the US lawyers can reach anything) and they will have a perfect code and get billions of money. Maybe I have watched too many films but all steps lead to the same direction. There may be many people objecting to aspects of systemd, but all components are GPL. You may as well rewrite point 4 onwards replacing 'systemd' with 'linux' and see how that paranoia looks then. I was slightly amused by This also allows us to implement something that we like to call Operating-System-As-A-Virus. Also, seems to rather miss the boat given containers and VMs are already here, sounds like a bit of a nightmare. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: is it the future?
On 9 September 2014 08:55, Balint Szigeti balint.s...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I have watched too many films... Yes, you have. If you don't like the direction systemd is taking then please install one of the BSD's and stop the discussion on this user list. Thanks. Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: is it the future?
Richard Hughes wrote: If you don't like the direction systemd is taking then please install one of the BSD's and stop the discussion on this user list. Thanks. That seems a completely unreasonable and intolerant comment to me. contrary to the whole spirit of Linux. Perhaps you should go over to Windows, where you might feel more at home. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: is it the future?
On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:55:02 +0100 Balint Szigeti wrote: What do you think guyes? I think these guys have a better plan: http://boycottsystemd.org/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evernote client?
On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 13:12 +0530, Sudhir Khanger wrote: I should have mentioned that I've already glanced at Geeknote and Nixnote (Nevernote), but neither appears to have a Fedora package. Nixnote 2 provides a RPM. I have tried it myself but it is development. Nixnote 1 was Java based which makes it tad slow and resource hungry. Thanks, I found the rpm after diligent searching in the Files folder (the default download is a .deb package). There is also NvPY which syncs with Simplenote. https://github.com/cpbotha/nvpy I'll add it to the list. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: is it the future?
Timothy Murphy wrote: Richard Hughes wrote: If you don't like the direction systemd is taking then please install one of the BSD's and stop the discussion on this user list. Thanks. That seems a completely unreasonable and intolerant comment to me. Richard (and generally me too)... Attitudes like that are likely due to having read/participated in many email threads similar to this one... based more on conspiracy-theory/innuendo than fact. feel free to rehash yet again if you like. -- Rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: is it the future?
On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 08:12 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:55:02 +0100 Balint Szigeti wrote: What do you think guyes? I think these guys have a better plan: http://boycottsystemd.org/ Thank you, that is a good site. I hope head of Fedora project read it as well. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: is it the future?
On Tuesday, September 09, 2014 07:42:24 AM Rex Dieter wrote: feel free to rehash yet again if you like. Oh! no not another 200 post thread with no purpose or end result. -- Regards, Sudhir Khanger, http://sudhirkhanger.com http://github.com/donniezazen Fingerprint: 49DD C204 6035 CD92 6949 3BFD EE67 D28C 9F14 497B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: is it the future?
I'm pretty sure systemd has a direct relation with chemtrails. But basically I agree too, it is bigger and bigger every day, I can't wait the day when vim will be part of systemd for some reasons :) L: -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: is it the future?
On 9 September 2014 12:34, Timothy Murphy gayle...@alice.it wrote: contrary to the whole spirit of Linux. http://islinuxaboutchoice.com/ Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F20: mouse cursor has 1 x 1/4 rectangle attached
On an acer latop with XFCE, the mouse cursor is trailed by a rectangle about 1/2 below and offset to the right. In Settings - Mouse and Touchpad - Themes I can change the size of cursor, which doesn't affect the size of the rectangle. How do I get rid of this rectangle? sean -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: mouse cursor has 1 x 1/4 rectangle attached
On 09.09.2014 16:13, sean darcy wrote: On an acer latop with XFCE, the mouse cursor is trailed by a rectangle about 1/2 below and offset to the right. In Settings - Mouse and Touchpad - Themes I can change the size of cursor, which doesn't affect the size of the rectangle. How do I get rid of this rectangle? sean $ lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: mouse cursor has 1 x 1/4 rectangle attached
On 09/09/2014 11:05 AM, poma wrote: On 09.09.2014 16:13, sean darcy wrote: On an acer latop with XFCE, the mouse cursor is trailed by a rectangle about 1/2 below and offset to the right. In Settings - Mouse and Touchpad - Themes I can change the size of cursor, which doesn't affect the size of the rectangle. How do I get rid of this rectangle? sean $ lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA poma lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R5 Graphics] [1002:1318] Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:0864] Kernel driver in use: radeon Kernel modules: radeon I've installed and switched to a new cursor theme. Rectangle still there. sean -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: is it the future?
Yeah, they did... and refuted every single point made there, multiple times. But people keep dragging it up, over and over again. See the topic New Group Calls For Boycotting SystemD. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Balint Szigeti balint.s...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 08:12 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:55:02 +0100 Balint Szigeti wrote: What do you think guyes? I think these guys have a better plan: http://boycottsystemd.org/ Thank you, that is a good site. I hope head of Fedora project read it as well. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: mouse cursor has 1 x 1/4 rectangle attached
On 09/09/2014 11:05 AM, poma wrote: On 09.09.2014 16:13, sean darcy wrote: On an acer latop with XFCE, the mouse cursor is trailed by a rectangle about 1/2 below and offset to the right. In Settings - Mouse and Touchpad - Themes I can change the size of cursor, which doesn't affect the size of the rectangle. How do I get rid of this rectangle? sean $ lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA poma lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R5 Graphics] [1002:1318] Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:0864] Kernel driver in use: radeon Kernel modules: radeon I've installed and changed to new cursor theme, Rectangle still there. sean -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: mouse cursor has 1 x 1/4 rectangle attached
On 09.09.2014 17:14, sean darcy wrote: On 09/09/2014 11:05 AM, poma wrote: On 09.09.2014 16:13, sean darcy wrote: On an acer latop with XFCE, the mouse cursor is trailed by a rectangle about 1/2 below and offset to the right. In Settings - Mouse and Touchpad - Themes I can change the size of cursor, which doesn't affect the size of the rectangle. How do I get rid of this rectangle? sean $ lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA poma lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R5 Graphics] [1002:1318] Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:0864] Kernel driver in use: radeon Kernel modules: radeon I've installed and switched to a new cursor theme. Rectangle still there. sean http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-driver-ati/2014-September/026621.html Rawhide/Fedora 22 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=717 https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/work/tasks/5517/717/Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-rawhide-20140909.iso https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/5517/717/livecd.log kernel-3.17.0-0.rc4.git0.1.fc22.x86_64 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.16.0-7.fc22.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-ati-7.4.0-3.fc22.x86_64 mesa-dri-drivers-10.4-0.devel.4.1f184bc.fc22.x86_64 libdrm-2.4.56-2.fc22.x86_64 ~ Fedora 20 kernel-3.16.2-200.fc20.x86_64 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.14.4-11.fc20.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-ati-7.2.0-3.20131101git3b38701.fc20.x86_64 mesa-dri-drivers-10.1.5-1.20140607.fc20.x86_64 libdrm-2.4.54-1.fc20.x86_64 poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up
On 09/08/2014 11:02 PM, Ed Greshko issued this missive: On 09/09/14 13:21, antonio montagnani wrote: 1) In a normal operation (but I am online by wireless card): systemctl status network.service network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network) Active: inactive (dead) Strange as it may seem, this is normal. [egreshko@meimei ~]$ systemctl status network.service network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network) Active: inactive (dead) [egreshko@meimei ~]$ systemctl status network.target network.target - Network Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/network.target; static) Active: active since Wed 2014-09-03 08:53:04 CST; 6 days ago Docs: man:systemd.special(7) http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Starting Network. Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Reached target Network. [egreshko@meimei ~]$ systemctl status network-online.target network-online.target - Network is Online Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/network-online.target; static) Active: active since Wed 2014-09-03 08:53:04 CST; 6 days ago Docs: man:systemd.special(7) http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Starting Network is Online. Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Reached target Network is Online. 2) Ed, do you mean that waiting for a minute or two is too short? :-) That is what some are suggesting. I've seen cases, prior to systemd when things were done in serial fashion, that bootup will be delayed for a time for network related issues. Eventually it would time out and startup would complete but the process causing the delay (most often sendmail) would enter the failed state. Yes. IIRC, the timeout for sendmail is five minutes. Even under systemd, if certain services are dependent on others starting properly, you can end up with some significant delays. 3) I repeat, this behaviour is not constant OK. I, for one, am not yet convinced that the issue is network related. You say you're up using WiFi. The question would bedoes the problem happen when coming up with the wired connection and Wifi? Another thing to do is When you have a successful boot after a failed boot. journalctl -b -1 failed.boot The file should not be very large and you can upload it using fpaste for people to examine. That is good forensics and yeah, we could look at it and possibly help sort it out. I suspect it is network-related--primarily because of the wifi relationship and the fact it isn't consistent. There's a lot of moving parts in a typical wifi startup (possibly load firmware, turn on the radio, find a network, join the network, get DHCP data, populate routing tables, populate the resolver libraries, etc.), any one of which could add delays to the network startup and have a ripple effect delaying other services dependent on the network. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong (and have often been!) -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -Jimmie crack corn and I don't care. What kind of a lousy attitude - - is THAT to have, huh? -- Dennis Miller - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up
Rick Stevens ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 09/09/2014 18:52: On 09/08/2014 11:02 PM, Ed Greshko issued this missive: On 09/09/14 13:21, antonio montagnani wrote: 1) In a normal operation (but I am online by wireless card): systemctl status network.service network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network) Active: inactive (dead) Strange as it may seem, this is normal. [egreshko@meimei ~]$ systemctl status network.service network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network) Active: inactive (dead) [egreshko@meimei ~]$ systemctl status network.target network.target - Network Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/network.target; static) Active: active since Wed 2014-09-03 08:53:04 CST; 6 days ago Docs: man:systemd.special(7) http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Starting Network. Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Reached target Network. [egreshko@meimei ~]$ systemctl status network-online.target network-online.target - Network is Online Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/network-online.target; static) Active: active since Wed 2014-09-03 08:53:04 CST; 6 days ago Docs: man:systemd.special(7) http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Starting Network is Online. Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Reached target Network is Online. 2) Ed, do you mean that waiting for a minute or two is too short? :-) That is what some are suggesting. I've seen cases, prior to systemd when things were done in serial fashion, that bootup will be delayed for a time for network related issues. Eventually it would time out and startup would complete but the process causing the delay (most often sendmail) would enter the failed state. Yes. IIRC, the timeout for sendmail is five minutes. Even under systemd, if certain services are dependent on others starting properly, you can end up with some significant delays. 3) I repeat, this behaviour is not constant OK. I, for one, am not yet convinced that the issue is network related. You say you're up using WiFi. The question would bedoes the problem happen when coming up with the wired connection and Wifi? Another thing to do is When you have a successful boot after a failed boot. journalctl -b -1 failed.boot The file should not be very large and you can upload it using fpaste for people to examine. That is good forensics and yeah, we could look at it and possibly help sort it out. I suspect it is network-related--primarily because of the wifi relationship and the fact it isn't consistent. There's a lot of moving parts in a typical wifi startup (possibly load firmware, turn on the radio, find a network, join the network, get DHCP data, populate routing tables, populate the resolver libraries, etc.), any one of which could add delays to the network startup and have a ripple effect delaying other services dependent on the network. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong (and have often been!) -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -Jimmie crack corn and I don't care. What kind of a lousy attitude - - is THAT to have, huh? -- Dennis Miller - -- I think that next time I will wait a longer time, and see what is going on: any procedure to see after boot the time for each service to start in systemd?? Tnx to all for your patience -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F20 (Heisenbug) on Fujitsu Lifebook A512 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up
On 09/09/2014 09:52 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: Yes. IIRC, the timeout for sendmail is five minutes. Even under systemd, if certain services are dependent on others starting properly, you can end up with some significant delays. Use systemd-analyze blame to find out for sure. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up
On 09/09/2014 10:00 AM, antonio wrote: I think that next time I will wait a longer time, and see what is going on: any procedure to see after boot the time for each service to start in systemd?? systemd-analyze blame -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up
On Sep 9, 2014, at 11:00 AM, antonio antonio.montagn...@gmail.com wrote: I think that next time I will wait a longer time, and see what is going on: any procedure to see after boot the time for each service to start in systemd?? journalctl -b -x If you need more verbosity than that (it's quite a bit so I'd try that first), you can reboot with systemd.log_level=debug as boot parameter. Then use journalctl -b -l or -b -x depending on which formatting you want. Kernel specific messages can be filtered with -k, and service filtering is possible with -u or of course grep. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up
On Sep 9, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 09/09/2014 10:00 AM, antonio wrote: I think that next time I will wait a longer time, and see what is going on: any procedure to see after boot the time for each service to start in systemd?? systemd-analyze blame Oh yeah neat trick also is systemd-analyze plot whatsslow.svg Then feed that svg to Firefox. Then systemd status slowservicename To get more info on what the problem might be. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: is it the future?
in that case I really don't understand why they don't listen to the community? On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 11:18 -0400, Kelly Miller wrote: Yeah, they did... and refuted every single point made there, multiple times. But people keep dragging it up, over and over again. See the topic New Group Calls For Boycotting SystemD. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Balint Szigeti balint.s...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 08:12 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:55:02 +0100 Balint Szigeti wrote: What do you think guyes? I think these guys have a better plan: http://boycottsystemd.org/ Thank you, that is a good site. I hope head of Fedora project read it as well. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: is it the future?
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Balint Szigeti wrote: in that case I really don't understand why they don't listen to the community? If you accuse a development community of having some giant impossible conspiracy, it makes them just a little bit wary of considering you a representative voice for the community, I think. FYI, one cannot unilaterally change from LGPL free and open source license to a proprietary license for a project with about 500 contributors. Please stick to any technical questions you may have for this list. Thank you. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Virtualbox size -
Virtual box seems to work ok but it only produces a 12 inch window on this 23 inch monitor and after extensive googling I have not found a way to make it bigger. Perhaps someone can tell me how? Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Virtualbox size -
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 04:38:23PM -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Virtual box seems to work ok but it only produces a 12 inch window on this 23 inch monitor and after extensive googling I have not found a way to make it bigger. Perhaps someone can tell me how? Bob Did you install the Guest Additions ? with that installed you should be able to drag the window edges/corners to whatever size you want. without it you'll get only certain standard (low) resolutions. -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - The Lord detests the way of the wicked but he loves those who pursue righteousness. - Proverbs 15:9 (niv) - -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Virtualbox size -
On 09/09/14 16:42, Fred Smith wrote: Did you install the Guest Additions ? with that installed you should be able to drag the window edges/corners to whatever size you want. without it you'll get only certain standard (low) resolutions. No, that sounds like something I might find in yum? I'll have a look there first. Thanks, Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Smart Media Player Network Access in Fedora 20
Hi Rick/Patric, Thankyou for your responses. I probably need some more assistance on these. I have minidlna installed already but haven't been able to figure out how to use it. I have also been told that XBMC to XBMC streaming is not a godd idea, how valid is that? Also, like Miracast under Windows, doesn't Linux have to be able to see the device before any of the mentioned package can stream to it? regards, Steve On 09/09/2014 06:43 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, I was given a Smart Media Player for fathers day, which I have connected to my TV via HDMI. When I power it on and it establishes its wireless connection to my router, Windows 8 automatically detects it and adds it as a device it can stream to. Under Fedora 20 none of the network interfaces available to Dolphin can see the device. What do I need to do to get the same automatic setup under Fedora as I do under Windows, or if Fedora has detected the wireless device, how do I find out? Also, under Fedora how do I set up Miracast (which is native to Windows 8) or Airplay streaming to the device once Fedora can actually see and use it? regards, Steve attachment: samorris.vcf-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Still missing something on vlan - F19
I am working on a system that has a stable MACaddr (an issue with many
arm SOC), so I don't suspect that as an issue.
cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
# Added by 'write_udev' for detected device 'eth0'.
SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*,
ATTR{address}==02:c4:03:82:c1:53, NAME=eth0
cat /etc/sysconfig/network
NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME=test.htt-consult.com
cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=none
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
NAME=System eth0
cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0.16
DEVICE=eth0.16
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
vlan=yes
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
NAME=System eth0.16
HOSTNAME=test.htt-consult.com
IPV6INIT=yes
ip addr show
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
state UNKNOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 02:c4:03:82:c1:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet6 fe80::c4:3ff:fe82:c153/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
Note I have set up the switch port so that ALL my vlans are accessable
from this port as 'tagged'. There are no 'untagged'. VALN 16 is one of
the available labels. I had earlier tried this with only VALN 16
available, and that did not work; I enabled all vlans then. None of the
vlans are untagged, so nothing is reachable the eth0.
It bothers me that eth0.16 does not even show in the 'ip addr show'
command output.
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Re: Virtualbox size -
On 09/09/2014 03:46 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 09/09/14 16:42, Fred Smith wrote: Did you install the Guest Additions ? with that installed you should be able to drag the window edges/corners to whatever size you want. without it you'll get only certain standard (low) resolutions. No, that sounds like something I might find in yum? I'll have a look there first. Thanks, Bob It should be a selectable iso for mounting to your cd. It won't be found in yum. It would have been part of the VirtualBox rpm or tar that you installed. Kevin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Virtualbox size -
On 09/09/2014 03:46 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 09/09/14 16:42, Fred Smith wrote: Did you install the Guest Additions ? with that installed you should be able to drag the window edges/corners to whatever size you want. without it you'll get only certain standard (low) resolutions. No, that sounds like something I might find in yum? I'll have a look there first. Thanks, Bob Guest Additions are part of the Virtual Box package. You need to mount the cd in the guest. https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Still missing something on vlan - F19
On 09/09/2014 02:11 PM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive:
I am working on a system that has a stable MACaddr (an issue with many
arm SOC), so I don't suspect that as an issue.
cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
# Added by 'write_udev' for detected device 'eth0'.
SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*,
ATTR{address}==02:c4:03:82:c1:53, NAME=eth0
cat /etc/sysconfig/network
NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME=test.htt-consult.com
cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=none
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
NAME=System eth0
cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0.16
DEVICE=eth0.16
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
vlan=yes
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
NAME=System eth0.16
HOSTNAME=test.htt-consult.com
IPV6INIT=yes
ip addr show
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
state UNKNOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 02:c4:03:82:c1:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet6 fe80::c4:3ff:fe82:c153/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
Note I have set up the switch port so that ALL my vlans are accessable
from this port as 'tagged'. There are no 'untagged'. VALN 16 is one of
the available labels. I had earlier tried this with only VALN 16
available, and that did not work; I enabled all vlans then. None of the
vlans are untagged, so nothing is reachable the eth0.
It bothers me that eth0.16 does not even show in the 'ip addr show'
command output.
Have you verified that the driver for that NIC supports VLAN tagging?
Some don't.
Have you tried a manual config, e.g. vconfig add eth0 16? If that
works, could you add
KERNEL=eth*
to the line in your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file and
see if that helps? It may be that the kernel isn't recognizing the
device's name.
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Re: Smart Media Player Network Access in Fedora 20
On 09/09/2014 01:56 PM, Stephen Morris issued this missive: Hi Rick/Patric, Thankyou for your responses. I probably need some more assistance on these. I have minidlna installed already but haven't been able to figure out how to use it. I have also been told that XBMC to XBMC streaming is not a godd idea, how valid is that? Also, like Miracast under Windows, doesn't Linux have to be able to see the device before any of the mentioned package can stream to it? regards, Steve On 09/09/2014 06:43 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, I was given a Smart Media Player for fathers day, which I have connected to my TV via HDMI. When I power it on and it establishes its wireless connection to my router, Windows 8 automatically detects it and adds it as a device it can stream to. Under Fedora 20 none of the network interfaces available to Dolphin can see the device. What do I need to do to get the same automatic setup under Fedora as I do under Windows, or if Fedora has detected the wireless device, how do I find out? Also, under Fedora how do I set up Miracast (which is native to Windows 8) or Airplay streaming to the device once Fedora can actually see and use it? I've not really used either one of those--I was just suggesting things that I've seen that address those protocols. Patrick probably can speak to it far better than I. I have MediaTomb running on a box at home, but that's a DLNA media server app and several of my devices don't like it much. Or I don't understand it very well and haven't invested the time into sorting it out. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Duct Tape + Magic Marker = Label Maker! - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Smart Media Player Network Access in Fedora 20
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 06:56 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote: Thankyou for your responses. I probably need some more assistance on these. I have minidlna installed already but haven't been able to figure out how to use it. I have also been told that XBMC to XBMC streaming is not a godd idea, how valid is that? Also, like Miracast under Windows, doesn't Linux have to be able to see the device before any of the mentioned package can stream to it? (Insert standard comment about not top-posting.) IIRC getting minidlna to work was trivial. I seem to remember some minor editing of the config file to set up directories to serve from, then starting it via systemd. It starts automatically on boot so in the worst case if you restart your system it should just happen. You may also need to open port 8200 (the default) if you firewall is blocking it. Also, I suspect you may be labouring under a misconception: you don't stream media to your remote device, the device streams media *from* the server (using the DLNA protocol). You don't have to tell the server what the device is. It will just stream to any device on the LAN that can find it. I can stream to my phone or tablet without any further setup other than installing a suitable app. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Smart Media Player Network Access in Fedora 20
On 08.09.2014 22:43, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, I was given a Smart Media Player for fathers day, which I have connected to my TV via HDMI. When I power it on and it establishes its wireless connection to my router, ... What actual device Smart Media Player is? What vendor, the full name of the product model? The link to the full specs? poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Still missing something on vlan - F19
On 09/09/2014 05:37 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/09/2014 02:11 PM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive:
I am working on a system that has a stable MACaddr (an issue with many
arm SOC), so I don't suspect that as an issue.
cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
# Added by 'write_udev' for detected device 'eth0'.
SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*,
ATTR{address}==02:c4:03:82:c1:53, NAME=eth0
cat /etc/sysconfig/network
NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME=test.htt-consult.com
cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=none
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
NAME=System eth0
cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0.16
DEVICE=eth0.16
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
vlan=yes
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
NAME=System eth0.16
HOSTNAME=test.htt-consult.com
IPV6INIT=yes
ip addr show
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
state UNKNOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 02:c4:03:82:c1:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet6 fe80::c4:3ff:fe82:c153/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
Note I have set up the switch port so that ALL my vlans are accessable
from this port as 'tagged'. There are no 'untagged'. VALN 16 is one of
the available labels. I had earlier tried this with only VALN 16
available, and that did not work; I enabled all vlans then. None of the
vlans are untagged, so nothing is reachable the eth0.
It bothers me that eth0.16 does not even show in the 'ip addr show'
command output.
Have you verified that the driver for that NIC supports VLAN tagging?
Some don't.
Looks like I am going to have to ask on the Fedora-arm list:
vconfig add eth0 16
WARNING: Could not open /proc/net/vlan/config. Maybe you need to load
the 8021q module, or maybe you are not using PROCFS??
Added VLAN with VID == 16 to IF -:eth0:-
ip addr show
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
state UNKNOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 02:c4:03:82:c1:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet6 fe80::c4:3ff:fe82:c153/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
4: eth0.16@eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc
noqueue state UP
link/ether 02:c4:03:82:c1:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet6 fe80::c4:3ff:fe82:c153/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
ifup eth0.16
Error: Timeout 90 sec expired.
So the vconfig command did something, but not enought.
Have you tried a manual config, e.g. vconfig add eth0 16? If that
works, could you add
KERNEL=eth*
to the line in your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file and
see if that helps? It may be that the kernel isn't recognizing the
device's name.
More work to do...
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Re: Still missing something on vlan - F19
On 09/09/2014 03:43 PM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive:
On 09/09/2014 05:37 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/09/2014 02:11 PM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive:
I am working on a system that has a stable MACaddr (an issue with many
arm SOC), so I don't suspect that as an issue.
cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
# Added by 'write_udev' for detected device 'eth0'.
SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*,
ATTR{address}==02:c4:03:82:c1:53, NAME=eth0
cat /etc/sysconfig/network
NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME=test.htt-consult.com
cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=none
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
NAME=System eth0
cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0.16
DEVICE=eth0.16
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
vlan=yes
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
NAME=System eth0.16
HOSTNAME=test.htt-consult.com
IPV6INIT=yes
ip addr show
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
state UNKNOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 02:c4:03:82:c1:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet6 fe80::c4:3ff:fe82:c153/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
Note I have set up the switch port so that ALL my vlans are accessable
from this port as 'tagged'. There are no 'untagged'. VALN 16 is one of
the available labels. I had earlier tried this with only VALN 16
available, and that did not work; I enabled all vlans then. None of the
vlans are untagged, so nothing is reachable the eth0.
It bothers me that eth0.16 does not even show in the 'ip addr show'
command output.
Have you verified that the driver for that NIC supports VLAN tagging?
Some don't.
Looks like I am going to have to ask on the Fedora-arm list:
vconfig add eth0 16
WARNING: Could not open /proc/net/vlan/config. Maybe you need to load
the 8021q module, or maybe you are not using PROCFS??
Added VLAN with VID == 16 to IF -:eth0:-
ip addr show
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
state UNKNOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 02:c4:03:82:c1:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet6 fe80::c4:3ff:fe82:c153/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
4: eth0.16@eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc
noqueue state UP
link/ether 02:c4:03:82:c1:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet6 fe80::c4:3ff:fe82:c153/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
ifup eth0.16
Error: Timeout 90 sec expired.
So the vconfig command did something, but not enought.
You may need to load that 8021q module. Check with lsmod. If it's
not there, try modprobe 8021q.
Have you tried a manual config, e.g. vconfig add eth0 16? If that
works, could you add
KERNEL=eth*
to the line in your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file and
see if that helps? It may be that the kernel isn't recognizing the
device's name.
More work to do...
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Re: is it the future?
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 11:18:06 -0400 Kelly Miller lightsolphoe...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, they did... and refuted every single point made there, multiple times. Can you point out a place where those refutes can be found? I want to see how one goes about refuting an objective statement. -- //Wegge -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Sound not working after a freeze and hard reboot
My sound has abruptly stopped working several times in the past, and at some point somebody on here suggested I try running the command alsactl init, which fixed the issue both presently and for each subsequent sound breakage. However, this time it isn't working. I've confirmed that none of the sliders are at 0 in `alsamixer`. Anyone have ideas about what I could do to fix the problem? Thanks. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Still missing something on vlan - F19
On 09/09/2014 06:57 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/09/2014 03:43 PM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive:
On 09/09/2014 05:37 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/09/2014 02:11 PM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive:
I am working on a system that has a stable MACaddr (an issue with many
arm SOC), so I don't suspect that as an issue.
cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
# Added by 'write_udev' for detected device 'eth0'.
SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*,
ATTR{address}==02:c4:03:82:c1:53, NAME=eth0
cat /etc/sysconfig/network
NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME=test.htt-consult.com
cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=none
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
NAME=System eth0
cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0.16
DEVICE=eth0.16
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
vlan=yes
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
NAME=System eth0.16
HOSTNAME=test.htt-consult.com
IPV6INIT=yes
ip addr show
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
state UNKNOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 02:c4:03:82:c1:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet6 fe80::c4:3ff:fe82:c153/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
Note I have set up the switch port so that ALL my vlans are accessable
from this port as 'tagged'. There are no 'untagged'. VALN 16 is
one of
the available labels. I had earlier tried this with only VALN 16
available, and that did not work; I enabled all vlans then. None of
the
vlans are untagged, so nothing is reachable the eth0.
It bothers me that eth0.16 does not even show in the 'ip addr show'
command output.
Have you verified that the driver for that NIC supports VLAN tagging?
Some don't.
Looks like I am going to have to ask on the Fedora-arm list:
vconfig add eth0 16
WARNING: Could not open /proc/net/vlan/config. Maybe you need to load
the 8021q module, or maybe you are not using PROCFS??
Added VLAN with VID == 16 to IF -:eth0:-
ip addr show
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
state UNKNOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 02:c4:03:82:c1:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet6 fe80::c4:3ff:fe82:c153/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
4: eth0.16@eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc
noqueue state UP
link/ether 02:c4:03:82:c1:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet6 fe80::c4:3ff:fe82:c153/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
ifup eth0.16
Error: Timeout 90 sec expired.
So the vconfig command did something, but not enought.
You may need to load that 8021q module. Check with lsmod. If it's
not there, try modprobe 8021q.
Progress. lsmod did not list it. After the modprobe it shows up. So I
tried vconfig again:
vconfig add eth0 16
Added VLAN with VID == 16 to IF -:eth0:-
ifup eth0.16
Error: Timeout 90 sec expired.
ifconfig
eth0: flags=4163UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 1500
inet6 fe80::c4:3ff:fe82:c153 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20link
ether 02:c4:03:82:c1:53 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 8530 bytes 1425669 (1.3 MiB)
RX errors 0 dropped 100 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 484 bytes 99312 (96.9 KiB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0
device interrupt 87 base 0x6000
eth0.16: flags=4163UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 1500
inet6 fe80::c4:3ff:fe82:c153 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20link
ether 02:c4:03:82:c1:53 txqueuelen 0 (Ethernet)
RX packets 57 bytes 4872 (4.7 KiB)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 3 bytes 258 (258.0 B)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0
lo: flags=73UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING mtu 16436
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 scopeid 0x10host
loop txqueuelen 0 (Local Loopback)
RX packets 1024 bytes 91136 (89.0 KiB)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 1024 bytes 91136 (89.0 KiB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0
So I now have the vlan interface, but it is not getting the dhcpv4 and
ipv6 RA info for setting up addresses.
What do I do to get 8021q loaded at boot? And any idea why addressing
is still not working?
Have you tried a manual config, e.g. vconfig add eth0 16? If that
works, could you add
KERNEL=eth*
to the line in your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file and
see if that helps? It may be that the kernel isn't recognizing the
device's name.
Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up
Chris Murphy ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 09/09/2014 19:25: On Sep 9, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 09/09/2014 10:00 AM, antonio wrote: I think that next time I will wait a longer time, and see what is going on: any procedure to see after boot the time for each service to start in systemd?? systemd-analyze blame Oh yeah neat trick also is systemd-analyze plot whatsslow.svg Then feed that svg to Firefox. Then systemd status slowservicename To get more info on what the problem might be. Chris Murphy I had to wait for half-an-hour then I issues a Ctrl+alt+del to reboot. Now I cretaed the log file by -- journalctl -b -1 failed.boot where can it be shared as it seems that cannot be loaded on the list?? Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F20 (Heisenbug) on Fujitsu Lifebook A512 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up
Chris Murphy ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 09/09/2014 19:25: On Sep 9, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 09/09/2014 10:00 AM, antonio wrote: I think that next time I will wait a longer time, and see what is going on: any procedure to see after boot the time for each service to start in systemd?? systemd-analyze blame Oh yeah neat trick also is systemd-analyze plot whatsslow.svg Then feed that svg to Firefox. Then systemd status slowservicename To get more info on what the problem might be. Chris Murphy this a link to such a file http://www.4shared.com/file/iNVvkir3ba/failed.html -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F20 (Heisenbug) on Fujitsu Lifebook A512 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up
Rick Stevens ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 09/09/2014 18:52: On 09/08/2014 11:02 PM, Ed Greshko issued this missive: On 09/09/14 13:21, antonio montagnani wrote: 1) In a normal operation (but I am online by wireless card): systemctl status network.service network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network) Active: inactive (dead) Strange as it may seem, this is normal. [egreshko@meimei ~]$ systemctl status network.service network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network) Active: inactive (dead) [egreshko@meimei ~]$ systemctl status network.target network.target - Network Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/network.target; static) Active: active since Wed 2014-09-03 08:53:04 CST; 6 days ago Docs: man:systemd.special(7) http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Starting Network. Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Reached target Network. [egreshko@meimei ~]$ systemctl status network-online.target network-online.target - Network is Online Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/network-online.target; static) Active: active since Wed 2014-09-03 08:53:04 CST; 6 days ago Docs: man:systemd.special(7) http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Starting Network is Online. Sep 03 08:53:04 meimei systemd[1]: Reached target Network is Online. 2) Ed, do you mean that waiting for a minute or two is too short? :-) That is what some are suggesting. I've seen cases, prior to systemd when things were done in serial fashion, that bootup will be delayed for a time for network related issues. Eventually it would time out and startup would complete but the process causing the delay (most often sendmail) would enter the failed state. Yes. IIRC, the timeout for sendmail is five minutes. Even under systemd, if certain services are dependent on others starting properly, you can end up with some significant delays. 3) I repeat, this behaviour is not constant OK. I, for one, am not yet convinced that the issue is network related. You say you're up using WiFi. The question would bedoes the problem happen when coming up with the wired connection and Wifi? Another thing to do is When you have a successful boot after a failed boot. journalctl -b -1 failed.boot The file should not be very large and you can upload it using fpaste for people to examine. That is good forensics and yeah, we could look at it and possibly help sort it out. I suspect it is network-related--primarily because of the wifi relationship and the fact it isn't consistent. There's a lot of moving parts in a typical wifi startup (possibly load firmware, turn on the radio, find a network, join the network, get DHCP data, populate routing tables, populate the resolver libraries, etc.), any one of which could add delays to the network startup and have a ripple effect delaying other services dependent on the network. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong (and have often been!) -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -Jimmie crack corn and I don't care. What kind of a lousy attitude - - is THAT to have, huh? -- Dennis Miller - -- that file has been uploaded: I don't know if it is usefuls as I had to wait for half-an-hour, then I had to issue a Ctrl+alt+del to reboot http://wikisend.com/download/930724/failed.boot -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F20 (Heisenbug) on Fujitsu Lifebook A512 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
