Re: F22 KDE How To Remove "Software Updates" Widget? (Solved)

2015-06-02 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 03 June 2015, Ed Greshko sent:
> FWIW, the default GNOME way is also to allow non-privileged users to
> apply updates.

I can see pluses and minuses to that, but mostly minuses.  I hope it's
administratable.

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Re: GDM memory use

2015-06-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/03/15 10:48, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> $ a=0; ps axfu | grep ^gdm| awk '{print $6}' | \
>   (while read x ; do a=$(( a + x )) ; done ; echo $a )
> 400760
>
> Does anyone else notice that gdm's session takes up 300-400MB of RAM?  I 
> typically defend GNOME, but this is kind of ridiculous.

I show 359852 while a system running sddm shows 10732

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Re: F22 KDE How To Remove "Software Updates" Widget? (Solved)

2015-06-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/02/15 07:08, Ed Greshko wrote:
> I'm not a GNOME user, but I need to check what it does.  If I recall, it 
> downloads updates in the background and installs on reboot.  I wonder if that 
> is true for non-wheel users as well.

FWIW, the default GNOME way is also to allow non-privileged users to apply 
updates.

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Re: sound problem in F20, F21, F22

2015-06-02 Thread dwoody5654

On 06/02/2015 03:03 PM, Steven Stern wrote:

On 06/02/2015 01:52 PM, dwoody5654 wrote:

Posted here and on alsa mailing list some time ago - many comments but
none fixed the problem.
This is the link to bug report:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1101278

And now I am officially confused.
To recap:
This computer is used for Mythtv.
The computer was build by me in 2007 using a Asus m2a-vm MB and until
kernel 3.12.x sound has always worked. I always used alsa not pulseaudio.

The F20 initial release, sound worked with 3.11.10-301.fc20.i686+PAE
All future releases of the kernel the sound did not work.
Searched Asus for a bios upgrade to address the problem - no upgrade
related.

Tried the following live dvd releases (stock live session included
pulseaudio) to no avail:

F21 xfce
F22 xfce
Centos 7.0
Linux mint 17.1

Since F20 is EOL and should move to F21 I bought a sound card for the
computer (Diamond brand from Best Buy).

Booting the 3.11.x kernel.
Sound card was recognized. I set Mythtv to use the new sound card. Sound
worked.

Booting the 3.19.x kernel
Sound card was recognized.
Sound did not work.

I put a new drive (spare) in the computer.
Install F22 xfce instead of a live session. Sound card was recognized.
Used Rhythmbox to test. No sound. Pulseaudio volume control clearly
showed sound coming in.

I thought that adding a sound card would have worked around the problem
and it did not.
I am clearly over looking something but do not know what.

Any ideas on what to do or look for next will be very appreciated,

David


Run the pulse audio volume control and make sure the new sound card is
the default output and that rhythmbox is playing to it.

Thanks for the reply.

Where do I set the default output in pavucontrol for the new sound card?
The device I need to use for sound is card:0 device:2. In what 
program/config file is that set?


I put the extra hdd in the computer and booted. running pavucontrol I 
saw that when playing from rhythumbox and firefox both audios were 
displayed. I selected the new sound card for the output in the first tab 
and no sound, although the volume lines indicated that audio was incoming.


On the configure tab when I plugged  the audio wire into the built-in 
sound card, pavucontrol indicated when it was plugged in and when not. 
But it did not send any sound to the tv.


Going back to the original hdd and 3.11.x kernel, the sound works with 
both the built-in sound card and the new sound card.



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help for module install

2015-06-02 Thread Julio Alberto Carrillo
i need add module in boot kernel in the install ? it's possible ?

The module is megasr for lsi raid driver.

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GDM memory use

2015-06-02 Thread Gordon Messmer

$ a=0; ps axfu | grep ^gdm| awk '{print $6}' | \
  (while read x ; do a=$(( a + x )) ; done ; echo $a )
400760

Does anyone else notice that gdm's session takes up 300-400MB of RAM?  I 
typically defend GNOME, but this is kind of ridiculous.

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Re: I'm shocked, shocked!

2015-06-02 Thread John Morris
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 13:48 -0400, Digimer wrote:

> I dealt with this by setting names I want in
> /etc/udev/rules/70-persistent-net.rules to match MAC to device names
> (and then the name to IP in the usual ifcfg-X files).

Yup, did that one long ago.  Now where do I lock down the names of my
displays?  Finally came to F21 this weekend and my docking fixup script
broke yet again because some idiot decided renaming all of the displays
from a zero based numbering scheme to a one based names was worth
breaking things over.  Don't even remember what the change was last
time, but it was something equally pointless.  Of course in the long ago
I didn't even NEED a docking script, Gnome just did the right thing on
its own.  Long ago.

Changing existing names of things for trivial reasons should be an
offense at least worthy of scorn and verbal abuse, but increasingly it
is accepted and even praised.

Not to mention docking in general has 'strongly discouraged' ever since
the Tablet Madness hit.  Mate lets be escape enough of it to be mostly
useful, just so long as I remember that shutdown or reboot will fail
when docked and apparently is a 'won't fix, you shouldn't do that' bug.
Really wish I could find a way to change the power management behavior
when a session isn't running, even if I could just disable ALL power
management until a mate-power-manager could start.

> Little less drastic than switch to BSD, where really, you're trading one
> set of headaches for another.

Switching operating systems over one bug is drastic, but increasingly it
is more a philosophical divergence.  The UNIX way vs whatever this new
RedHat computing model is supposed to be called.  Inertia keeps me
running updates instead of reinstalling but when I finally replace this
Thinkpad it will probably be time to distro/OS hunt.


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Re: sound problem in F20, F21, F22

2015-06-02 Thread stan
On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 15:03:34 -0500
Steven Stern  wrote:

> On 06/02/2015 01:52 PM, dwoody5654 wrote:
> > Posted here and on alsa mailing list some time ago - many comments
> > but none fixed the problem.
> > This is the link to bug report:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1101278
> > 
> > And now I am officially confused.
> > To recap:
> > This computer is used for Mythtv.
> > The computer was build by me in 2007 using a Asus m2a-vm MB and
> > until kernel 3.12.x sound has always worked. I always used alsa not
> > pulseaudio.
> > 
> > The F20 initial release, sound worked with 3.11.10-301.fc20.i686+PAE
> > All future releases of the kernel the sound did not work.
> > Searched Asus for a bios upgrade to address the problem - no upgrade
> > related.
> > 
> > Tried the following live dvd releases (stock live session included
> > pulseaudio) to no avail:
> > 
> >F21 xfce
> >F22 xfce
> >Centos 7.0
> >Linux mint 17.1
> > 
> > Since F20 is EOL and should move to F21 I bought a sound card for
> > the computer (Diamond brand from Best Buy).
> > 
> > Booting the 3.11.x kernel.
> > Sound card was recognized. I set Mythtv to use the new sound card.
> > Sound worked.
> > 
> > Booting the 3.19.x kernel
> > Sound card was recognized.
> > Sound did not work.
> > 
> > I put a new drive (spare) in the computer.
> > Install F22 xfce instead of a live session. Sound card was
> > recognized. Used Rhythmbox to test. No sound. Pulseaudio volume
> > control clearly showed sound coming in.
> > 
> > I thought that adding a sound card would have worked around the
> > problem and it did not.
> > I am clearly over looking something but do not know what.
> > 
> > Any ideas on what to do or look for next will be very appreciated,
> > 
> > David
> > 
> 
> Run the pulse audio volume control and make sure the new sound card is
> the default output and that rhythmbox is playing to it.
> 

Another suggestion.  Run  aplay -lv  .  That will show you the devices
that alsa thinks are on your system.  Sometimes, a video card will look
like a sound device to alsa.  And if you have more than one sound
device, they can be loaded in different order each time.

There is a way to pin devices to locations in alsa.  It has to do with
putting a file in /etc/modprobe.d.  A search should turn up the
technique and some samples if you need it.  

You can also check whether your device is configured correctly under
alsa using alsamixer -c[device number].  Make sure that everything is
turned on, and the volumes are reasonable.

Alsa is under pulse, so if it isn't configured correctly, pulse will
have problems.
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Re: f22 fedup with btrfs snapshot?

2015-06-02 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mar, 02/06/2015 alle 13.22 -0400, Neal Becker ha scritto:
> so that I can backout to f21 if I don't 
> like it?
Curiosity, how do you know that f22 work worse respect f21, unless you
do not try it for a while?

For example, if you want to try Evolution (or some other local
application with local data), you must download your mail, and you will
try to write a message to send, just so you can discover that the
editor of evolution is worse than the previous, and when you use undo
(ctrl + z) undo does not do "undo" but something else and dirty your
text (this, unfortunately, is a real problem that happens even now as I
write this message).

At that point, if you do a revert to f21, you lose all messages that
you have downloaded and all work that you have done in the meantime on
your machine. At this point it is too late.

In short, I do not think that you can find all regression, that
invariably occur when you change a version of Fedora (or Nautilus, or
Evolution, or some Gnome Applications), in just a few minutes of test
and decide to come back.

Probably is better test the new version on a simple virtual machine ...
or not?

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Re: sound problem in F20, F21, F22

2015-06-02 Thread Steven Stern
On 06/02/2015 01:52 PM, dwoody5654 wrote:
> Posted here and on alsa mailing list some time ago - many comments but
> none fixed the problem.
> This is the link to bug report:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1101278
> 
> And now I am officially confused.
> To recap:
> This computer is used for Mythtv.
> The computer was build by me in 2007 using a Asus m2a-vm MB and until
> kernel 3.12.x sound has always worked. I always used alsa not pulseaudio.
> 
> The F20 initial release, sound worked with 3.11.10-301.fc20.i686+PAE
> All future releases of the kernel the sound did not work.
> Searched Asus for a bios upgrade to address the problem - no upgrade
> related.
> 
> Tried the following live dvd releases (stock live session included
> pulseaudio) to no avail:
> 
>F21 xfce
>F22 xfce
>Centos 7.0
>Linux mint 17.1
> 
> Since F20 is EOL and should move to F21 I bought a sound card for the
> computer (Diamond brand from Best Buy).
> 
> Booting the 3.11.x kernel.
> Sound card was recognized. I set Mythtv to use the new sound card. Sound
> worked.
> 
> Booting the 3.19.x kernel
> Sound card was recognized.
> Sound did not work.
> 
> I put a new drive (spare) in the computer.
> Install F22 xfce instead of a live session. Sound card was recognized.
> Used Rhythmbox to test. No sound. Pulseaudio volume control clearly
> showed sound coming in.
> 
> I thought that adding a sound card would have worked around the problem
> and it did not.
> I am clearly over looking something but do not know what.
> 
> Any ideas on what to do or look for next will be very appreciated,
> 
> David
> 

Run the pulse audio volume control and make sure the new sound card is
the default output and that rhythmbox is playing to it.

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sound problem in F20, F21, F22

2015-06-02 Thread dwoody5654
Posted here and on alsa mailing list some time ago - many comments but 
none fixed the problem.
This is the link to bug report: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1101278


And now I am officially confused.
To recap:
This computer is used for Mythtv.
The computer was build by me in 2007 using a Asus m2a-vm MB and until 
kernel 3.12.x sound has always worked. I always used alsa not pulseaudio.


The F20 initial release, sound worked with 3.11.10-301.fc20.i686+PAE
All future releases of the kernel the sound did not work.
Searched Asus for a bios upgrade to address the problem - no upgrade 
related.


Tried the following live dvd releases (stock live session included 
pulseaudio) to no avail:


   F21 xfce
   F22 xfce
   Centos 7.0
   Linux mint 17.1

Since F20 is EOL and should move to F21 I bought a sound card for the 
computer (Diamond brand from Best Buy).


Booting the 3.11.x kernel.
Sound card was recognized. I set Mythtv to use the new sound card. Sound 
worked.


Booting the 3.19.x kernel
Sound card was recognized.
Sound did not work.

I put a new drive (spare) in the computer.
Install F22 xfce instead of a live session. Sound card was recognized.
Used Rhythmbox to test. No sound. Pulseaudio volume control clearly 
showed sound coming in.


I thought that adding a sound card would have worked around the problem 
and it did not.

I am clearly over looking something but do not know what.

Any ideas on what to do or look for next will be very appreciated,

David

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Re: f22 fedup with btrfs snapshot?

2015-06-02 Thread Neal Becker
Neal Becker wrote:

> I have f21 installed on btrfs.  I wonder what's a good procedure to use
> fedup along with btrfs snapshot, so that I can backout to f21 if I don't
> like it?
> 
> Right now I have:
> 
>  sudo btrfs sub list /
> ID 257 gen 67442 top level 5 path root
> ID 318 gen 67442 top level 5 path home
> 
> -- /etc/fstab
> UUID=93c586fa-6d86-4148-a528-e61e644db0c8 /   btrfs
> subvol=root 0 0
> UUID=93c586fa-6d86-4148-a528-e61e644db0c8 /home   btrfs
> subvol=home 0 0
> UUID=e907e423-4282-4ca9-a873-b544d17d34b9 /boot   ext4
> defaults1 2
> UUID=b0cde31d-3694-4b98-ad90-e28c7d35a869 swapswap
> defaults0 0
> 
> 

I think this may be all I need:

sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[nbecker@nbecker2 ~]$ ls -l /mnt
total 0
drwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14 Jun  1 18:46 home
dr-xr-xr-x. 1 root root 172 Jun  2 09:39 root

[nbecker@nbecker2 ~]$ sudo btrfs sub snap /mnt/root /mnt/root-f21
Create a snapshot of '/mnt/root' in '/mnt/root-f21'
[nbecker@nbecker2 ~]$ ls -l /mnt
total 0
drwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14 Jun  1 18:46 home
dr-xr-xr-x. 1 root root 172 Jun  2 09:39 root
dr-xr-xr-x. 1 root root 172 Jun  2 09:39 root-f21

So now I have a snap of f21 root in in root-f21 subvol, and I should be able 
to rollback by editing grub.cfg and /etc/fstab to point to root-f21 subvol 
instead of root subvol, correct?
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Re: UPS shutdown happens how?

2015-06-02 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 06/02/2015 09:34 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:

That doesn't seem reasonable. It wouldn't shut down the system
unless someone was actually logged in if gnome-settings-daemon
were responsible for noticing the power failure.


gdm also runs a GNOME session, and gnome-settings-daemon.  I believe 
that control is given to whichever user "owns" the console.

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f22 fedup with btrfs snapshot?

2015-06-02 Thread Neal Becker
I have f21 installed on btrfs.  I wonder what's a good procedure to use 
fedup along with btrfs snapshot, so that I can backout to f21 if I don't 
like it?

Right now I have:

 sudo btrfs sub list /
ID 257 gen 67442 top level 5 path root
ID 318 gen 67442 top level 5 path home

-- /etc/fstab
UUID=93c586fa-6d86-4148-a528-e61e644db0c8 /   btrfs   
subvol=root 0 0
UUID=93c586fa-6d86-4148-a528-e61e644db0c8 /home   btrfs   
subvol=home 0 0
UUID=e907e423-4282-4ca9-a873-b544d17d34b9 /boot   ext4
defaults1 2
UUID=b0cde31d-3694-4b98-ad90-e28c7d35a869 swapswap
defaults0 0


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Re: gdm busted?

2015-06-02 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 09:36:31AM -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
> 
> Reboot (not sure just logging off works) and should be using the one
> you chose.

The following sequence should be enough:

  # systemctl isolate multi-user.target
  # systemctl isolate graphical.target

Or maybe just stop the old one, start the new one.  Both work only from
a real tty though, your desktop session will be restarted.

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Re: Fedora 22: cannot use rpmsign in script - problem with pinentry-gtk-2

2015-06-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 12:12:05 -0400, Doug wrote:

> 
> 
> On 06/02/2015 05:59 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 09:27:16 +0200, Pavel Lisý wrote:
> >
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> I've used rpmsign in script for long time. I worked fine. After upgrade to
> >> Fedora 22 (from Fedora 20) something changed
> >>
> 
> /snip/
> 
> Pardon my stupidity, but what the heck is an rpmsign? What does it look like?
> 
> --doug

:)  It's about a feature of RPM, to add a GPG signature to packages.
See "dnf info rpm-sign" and the "rpmsign" manual included in there.
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Re: Swithing between gdm and kdm

2015-06-02 Thread Rick Stevens

On 06/02/2015 01:56 AM, Rene Harder Olsen wrote:

Hello everybody.


I have read the mails about enabling lightdm and disabling gdm.
I have also tried it and what I found out was, it sets display manager
via and ln which it modifies by creating a new one for the one which is
enabled and removed the one which is disabled.

Dnf says that kde and gdm is installed and when I changed it has no
effect on graphic desktop displayed.

Any tips or help is more than welcome.

Can it has anything to do with the sudoers file I have set to no login
at boot.

i am not native English speaking person so please bear with me.


Rene,

lightdm and gdm are display managers, not desktops. The most visible
difference between the two are the login prompt for your desktop and
the way sessions are selected. lightdm uses fewer resources than gdm,
with gdm really being a thinned-down version of gnome shell. Once
you're past the login and session selection, then your desktop is
handled by the window, desktop and session managers.

I use XFCE, so my actual desktop is handled by xfwm4 (the window
manager), xfce4-session (the session manager) and xfdesktop (the
desktop manager). If you're running gnome, then I'd suggest staying
with gdm as it does offer some underlying support for the Gnome
desktop and may help Gnome start faster, but for XFCE and Mate, I'd
recommend using lightdm.
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Re: UPS shutdown happens how?

2015-06-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 08:52:50 -0700
Gordon Messmer wrote:

> If you're not running a GNOME session, I don't think the GNOME power 
> settings will be relevant to you.  GNOME manages power in 
> gnome-settings-daemon.

That doesn't seem reasonable. It wouldn't shut down the system
unless someone was actually logged in if gnome-settings-daemon
were responsible for noticing the power failure. (Of course,
I could also believe gnome is silly enough to work that way,
but I had hoped some other party was responsible for handling
the power failure whenever it happened to occur).
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Re: Fedora 22: cannot use rpmsign in script - problem with pinentry-gtk-2

2015-06-02 Thread Doug



On 06/02/2015 05:59 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 09:27:16 +0200, Pavel Lisý wrote:


Hello

I've used rpmsign in script for long time. I worked fine. After upgrade to
Fedora 22 (from Fedora 20) something changed



/snip/

Pardon my stupidity, but what the heck is an rpmsign? What does it look like?

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Re: UPS shutdown happens how?

2015-06-02 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 06/02/2015 07:53 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:

I told it to shutdown when battery power is critical, but
I'm wondering who the heck recognizes that. I don't run
a gnome session, so is there some daemon that needs to
be working for it to actually shutdown cleanly?


If you're not running a GNOME session, I don't think the GNOME power 
settings will be relevant to you.  GNOME manages power in 
gnome-settings-daemon.


If your UPS is an APC model, you can use apcupsd.  However, I recommend 
"nut" since it handles a wide variety of UPS types.  IIRC, you'll want 
to install the "nut" and "nut-client" packages.

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Re: Unwanted blinking notice -

2015-06-02 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 02/06/15 11:19, Ted Roche wrote:

Bob:

What does the flashing notification say?

.
A flashing text window containing the URL subject name. I find it really 
annoying, it would be tolerable if it didn't blink/flash?

.


It doesn't seem to be an exact match for what you are describing, but
I get a confirmation dialog asking me if I want to use FireFox or
another web browser when I flip this setting:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.warn-external-default

In Thunderbird, hit the menu "hamburger" icon, then Preferences,
Advanced, Config Editor. Search for:

network.protocol-handler.warn-external.http

This may void your Mozilla warranty, fwiw.

.
No, that doesn't look like the right thing and my warranty expired 
immediately after installation!

.
Thanks, you were the only response so I guess I'm the only one troubled 
by the feature,


Bob




On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
 wrote:

.
In Thunderbird, when I click on a URL in a message it does what I expect it
to and I don't need re-assurance the it has!

It brings up a flashing notification in the top left corner that I would
like to eliminate. Does anyone have a fix for that?

This is an updated F22/64bit system.

Bob

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RE: UPS shutdown happens how?

2015-06-02 Thread J.Witvliet
-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
[mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Tom Horsley
Sent: dinsdag 2 juni 2015 16:54
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: UPS shutdown happens how?

I just got a new UPS at work which has a USB cable connection.
If I look at the power settings in gnome-control-center, it claims to know I'm 
on a UPS, so I guess it knows how to talk to it.

I told it to shutdown when battery power is critical, but I'm wondering who the 
heck recognizes that. I don't run a gnome session, so is there some daemon that 
needs to be working for it to actually shutdown cleanly?
-Original Message-

As with all in Linux-realm, there are several ways  to obtain something.
Not all UPS has a proper working intercase, or have one that is not compatible.

A friend of mine solved it in a different way: On his UPS-protected machine, he 
pinged every minute  a small box that is not UPS-protected.
No reply? Decent shutdown!  Also easy to test...

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Re: [solved] Anybody succeful as normal user in F22 with (x)sane together with an USB scanner?

2015-06-02 Thread Joachim Backes
On 06/02/2015 07:55 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 06/01/2015 08:08 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
>> On 01.06.2015, Joachim Backes wrote: 
>>
>>> Anybody has similar problems?
>>
>> Could be a permission problem. You could try an udev rule to set it
>> accordingly. Put this in a file under /etc/udev/rules.d:
>>
>> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="04a9", ATTR{idProduct}=="220e", 
>> MODE="0666"
>>
> 
> Thank you for your answer, Heinz, but that did not help. Seems not to be
> a permission problem, because (as I already mentioned) simple-scan runs
> well.
> 
> sane-backends problem??
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Joachim Backes
> 

Solved: I wanted to run xsane for saving the scanned image into a file,
but the filename given by myself contained a space char! By removing
this space char from the filename, scanning  by xsane is now done properly!

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Re: Unwanted blinking notice -

2015-06-02 Thread Ted Roche
Bob:

What does the flashing notification say?

It doesn't seem to be an exact match for what you are describing, but
I get a confirmation dialog asking me if I want to use FireFox or
another web browser when I flip this setting:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.warn-external-default

In Thunderbird, hit the menu "hamburger" icon, then Preferences,
Advanced, Config Editor. Search for:

network.protocol-handler.warn-external.http

This may void your Mozilla warranty, fwiw.


On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
 wrote:
> .
> In Thunderbird, when I click on a URL in a message it does what I expect it
> to and I don't need re-assurance the it has!
>
> It brings up a flashing notification in the top left corner that I would
> like to eliminate. Does anyone have a fix for that?
>
> This is an updated F22/64bit system.
>
> Bob
>
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Re: UPS shutdown happens how?

2015-06-02 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 06/02/2015 10:53 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> I just got a new UPS at work which has a USB cable connection.
> If I look at the power settings in gnome-control-center,
> it claims to know I'm on a UPS, so I guess it knows how to
> talk to it.
>
> I told it to shutdown when battery power is critical, but
> I'm wondering who the heck recognizes that. I don't run
> a gnome session, so is there some daemon that needs to
> be working for it to actually shutdown cleanly?
I have an APC UPS that I configured in fedora using apcupsd package.
the config file is /etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf

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UPS shutdown happens how?

2015-06-02 Thread Tom Horsley
I just got a new UPS at work which has a USB cable connection.
If I look at the power settings in gnome-control-center,
it claims to know I'm on a UPS, so I guess it knows how to
talk to it.

I told it to shutdown when battery power is critical, but
I'm wondering who the heck recognizes that. I don't run
a gnome session, so is there some daemon that needs to
be working for it to actually shutdown cleanly?
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Re: gdm busted?

2015-06-02 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 09:12 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On 06/01/2015 08:50 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:
> > It seems that my GDM is hosed also; I see that both gdm and lightdm 
> > are installed (per fedup); how do I make the adjustment? 
> > 
> > Thank you. 
> http://ask.systutorials.com/524/how-to-replace-gdm-with-lightdm-on
> -fedora
> 
> # yum install lightdm lightdm-gtk
> Then, disable gdm service and make the lightdm service be started by 
> systemd
> 
> # systemctl disable gdm.service
> # systemctl enable lightdm.service
> After rebooting your Fedora Linux, lightdm should be the dm.


You can also install system-switch-displaymanager and let that do it
for you.

dnf install system-switch-displaymanager

system-switch-displaymanager gdm or system-switch-displaymanager
lightdm or whichever want you want.

Reboot (not sure just logging off works) and should be using the one
you chose.

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Eureka: New Kernel/hwdata recognizes my Kindle

2015-06-02 Thread David Cary Hart

I am a happy amphibian.

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Re: error trying to enable copr

2015-06-02 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 23:53 -0400, William Biggs wrote:
> When I try to add copr repo . I type sudo dnf copr enable 
> user/project
> . and When I get y I get this error . How do I get this to work 
>  Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
> '/etc/yum.repos.d/_copr_user-project.repo

You need to replace "user/project" with the real username and real
project name of what you want added, such as below..

dnf copr enable gusrub/corebird


Just browse the copr pages for the repository you want to add and then
add that username and project name and then it should work.

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Re: grub question

2015-06-02 Thread Paul Cartwright

  
  

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On 06/02/2015 09:55 AM, François Patte wrote:
> As far as I understand what you
  say, anaconda will re-install GRUB on
  > the MBR, will make fedora21 the default system and will write
  an entry
  > in GRUB menu to boot the debian system.
  >
  > Am I right?
yes.. you run:
# grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

that creates the file. Then, to install it:

# grub2-install /dev/sda    ( assuming you want it on the mbr of
your first drive, sda)

if you are doing an OS install, yes, it will create the file in mbr
for you.
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Re: grub question

2015-06-02 Thread François Patte
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Le 02/06/2015 12:39, Paul Cartwright a écrit :
> 
> On 06/02/2015 03:58 AM, François Patte wrote:
>> I have a debian installed and I want to install on the same disk
>> a fedora21.
> 
>> Of course GRUB2 is installed to boot the debian install.
> 
>> What will happen with GRUB during the fedora install:
> 
>> will anaconda detect the debian install and ask me what to do?
> 
>> will it detect the debian install and configure GRUB to boot
>> both systems without saying anything?
> 
>> will it unable to detect the debian install and erase the GRUB
>> config? In that case how to recover my debian system boot?
> 
>> will it tell me that it has detected a GRUB2 installation, but
>> that its version is not compatible with the version shipped with
>> fedora21? In that case, what to do?
> 
>> will it whatever I cannot imagine
> 
> 
>> Thank you for enlightments
> 
>> - --
> whichever OS you install last will install grub2 and make that OS
> the default, but it will find all installed OSes on your disk(S). 
> my default is fedora 22, but I also have fedora21 & windows on my
> disks..

As far as I understand what you say, anaconda will re-install GRUB on
the MBR, will make fedora21 the default system and will write an entry
in GRUB menu to boot the debian system.

Am I right?


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RE: I'm shocked, shocked!

2015-06-02 Thread J.Witvliet
-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
[mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Michael Hennebry
Sent: dinsdag 2 juni 2015 7:20
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: RE: I'm shocked, shocked!

On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote:

> -Original Message-
> From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
> [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Tom H
> Sent: zondag 31 mei 2015 15:23
> To: Fedora Users
> Subject: Re: I'm shocked, shocked!
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Tom Horsley  wrote:
>>
>> To see that the "predictable" network name for my one and only 
>> ethernet port has changed once again.
>> On fedora 22 eno1 is what used to be em1.
>
> That's because you've moved from one "predictable" scheme to another...

That is not a good enough excuse.
*By design*, Fedora is a high-turnover distribution.
Changing a naming scheme that security software relies on is a big deal.

I'd suggest two utilities.
One would record the current names and
their mac addresses in a plain text file.
The other would take such a file and update a configuration file to associate 
the names and mac addresses.
The format of the file should remain constant between releases.

-Original Message-

I wasn't looking for an excuse.
And it is not only security related, but more general networking.
At how many places do you have to specify the name of your network device, and 
perhaps have to differentiate...
Not just iptables, but routing, bridging, monitoring, building virtualized 
clients, etc etc etc
No progress without change, but changing device-names isn't a trivial thing.
I could write scripts on a test-machine, not needing to know the hardware 
layout of any intended target machines.
Now I do need to know, or need to script around it. That is still fun, but 
changing documentation for real-end-users aint. :-)

Hw


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Re: Fedora22 - run remote graphical program on local display

2015-06-02 Thread Todor Petkov

On 01/06/2015 05:26 PM, Todor Petkov wrote:

On 01/06/2015 05:03 PM, Todor Petkov wrote:


My bad, the version for Centos5 is "OpenSSH_4.3p2, OpenSSL
0.9.8e-fips-rhel5 01 Jul 2008".

Also, I noticed something else: when I log in Centos5 as root, the
display is correct, but when I log with my LDAP user, firefox is
started on my computer.


Turns out, when I run firefox with "--no-remote", the display is 
correct.


However, there is still a problem with the connection to another F22 
machine and non-responsible window. I tried with seamonkey, same 
difference.


Any ideas?

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Re: grub question

2015-06-02 Thread Paul Cartwright

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On 06/02/2015 03:58 AM, François Patte wrote:
> I have a debian installed and I want to install on the same disk a
> fedora21.
>
> Of course GRUB2 is installed to boot the debian install.
>
> What will happen with GRUB during the fedora install:
>
> will anaconda detect the debian install and ask me what to do?
>
> will it detect the debian install and configure GRUB to boot both
> systems without saying anything?
>
> will it unable to detect the debian install and erase the GRUB config?
> In that case how to recover my debian system boot?
>
> will it tell me that it has detected a GRUB2 installation, but that
> its version is not compatible with the version shipped with fedora21?
> In that case, what to do?
>
> will it whatever I cannot imagine
>
>
> Thank you for enlightments
>
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whichever OS you install last will install grub2 and make that OS the
default, but it will find all installed OSes on your disk(S).
my default is fedora 22, but I also have fedora21 & windows on my disks..

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Re: I'm shocked, shocked!

2015-06-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 00:20:28 -0500 (CDT)
Michael Hennebry wrote:

> I'd suggest two utilities.
> One would record the current names and
> their mac addresses in a plain text file.
> The other would take such a file and update a configuration
> file to associate the names and mac addresses.
> The format of the file should remain constant between releases.

That is precisely how everything used to work before
they started improving it :-).
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Re: Fedora 22: cannot use rpmsign in script - problem with pinentry-gtk-2

2015-06-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 09:27:16 +0200, Pavel Lisý wrote:

> Hello
> 
> I've used rpmsign in script for long time. I worked fine. After upgrade to
> Fedora 22 (from Fedora 20) something changed
> 
> This script:
> - cut --
> export LANG=cs_CZ.UTF-8
> if [ -n "$PASSPHRASE" ] ; then
> /usr/bin/expect -f - << EOF
> spawn rpmsign --addsign $RPMS_TO_SIGN
> match_max 10
> fork
> expect "Vložte heslovou frázi: "
> send -- "${PASSPHRASE}\r"
> expect eof
> EOF
> else
>echo "Set PASSPHRASE variable first"
> fi
> - cut --
> 
> is starting now pinentry-gtk-2 and forces me to put passphrase to modal
> window. 

Cannot confirm.

> Is any possibility how to disable this behaviour? Whatever I've found
> through google didn't work for me.
> 
> Do you use rpmsign in script?

Expect or PyExpect used to be an option, yes, if you like storing the
passphrase somewhere.

Alternatively, you can redefine %{__gpg_sign_cmd} to your own invocation
of "gpg" when running rpm --addsign. That way you can add GPG options such
as --batch --use-agent and spare yourself the Expect script as you then can
use GPG Agent.
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Swithing between gdm and kdm

2015-06-02 Thread Rene Harder Olsen
Hello everybody.


I have read the mails about enabling lightdm and disabling gdm.
I have also tried it and what I found out was, it sets display manager
via and ln which it modifies by creating a new one for the one which is
enabled and removed the one which is disabled.

Dnf says that kde and gdm is installed and when I changed it has no
effect on graphic desktop displayed.

Any tips or help is more than welcome.

Can it has anything to do with the sudoers file I have set to no login
at boot.

i am not native English speaking person so please bear with me.
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grub question

2015-06-02 Thread François Patte
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Bonjour,

I have a debian installed and I want to install on the same disk a
fedora21.

Of course GRUB2 is installed to boot the debian install.

What will happen with GRUB during the fedora install:

will anaconda detect the debian install and ask me what to do?

will it detect the debian install and configure GRUB to boot both
systems without saying anything?

will it unable to detect the debian install and erase the GRUB config?
In that case how to recover my debian system boot?

will it tell me that it has detected a GRUB2 installation, but that
its version is not compatible with the version shipped with fedora21?
In that case, what to do?

will it whatever I cannot imagine


Thank you for enlightments

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Yumex doesn't take clean_requirements_on_remove into account (Re: kernel number in dnf)

2015-06-02 Thread Radek Holy
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> From: "Antonio M" 
> To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 8:02:45 AM
> Subject: kernel number in dnf

> I switched from yumex to umex-dnf. This morning a new kernel was found, but I
> got 4 kernels installed, even if my dnf,conf sounds like:

> [main]
> gpgcheck=1
> installonly_limit=3
> clean_requirements_on_remove=true

> why??

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> Linux Fedora 21 (Twenty-one)
> inviato da Gmail

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I guess that's because Yumex doesn't take DNF's clean_requirements_on_remove 
into account. I wonder whether it's even desired because then the actual value 
of clean_requirements_on_remove would depend on the chosen backend and I 
believe that backend changes should not affect the behavior of the application. 
But I don't know Yumex... 
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Fedora 22: cannot use rpmsign in script - problem with pinentry-gtk-2

2015-06-02 Thread Pavel Lisý
Hello

I've used rpmsign in script for long time. I worked fine. After upgrade to
Fedora 22 (from Fedora 20) something changed

This script:
- cut --
export LANG=cs_CZ.UTF-8
if [ -n "$PASSPHRASE" ] ; then
/usr/bin/expect -f - << EOF
spawn rpmsign --addsign $RPMS_TO_SIGN
match_max 10
fork
expect "Vložte heslovou frázi: "
send -- "${PASSPHRASE}\r"
expect eof
EOF
else
   echo "Set PASSPHRASE variable first"
fi
- cut --

is starting now pinentry-gtk-2 and forces me to put passphrase to modal
window. 

Is any possibility how to disable this behaviour? Whatever I've found
through google didn't work for me.

Do you use rpmsign in script?

Pavel

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