Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
Il giorno ven, 12/06/2015 alle 07.20 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto: If I right click on a file or folder the menu items you ask about are there for me. In this tread I do not talk about CTRL+v|c or right click, but a classic menu in which there are the classic function copy and paste. Like all application have. IMHO: It is absurd remove it -- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 22 con Gnome 3.16) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
On Thu, 2015-06-11 at 23:51 +0200, Rene Harder Olsen wrote: or use the second mouse /right click bottom to open a menu with copy and paste option. That's never worked when there's no blank area in the window to click into (because it's occupied by data about other files). -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Tue May 12 17:42:35 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dnf nonlocal update
I like the idea of creating a mirror repo, although it's less infrastructure to use the second solution. Thank you. On 10 June 2015 at 10:35, Radek Holy rh...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 10:23:29 PM Subject: Re: dnf nonlocal update On 06/09/2015 04:52 AM, Robert Dady wrote: Hi, I have 2 computers: A has F22 and 3G cell phone Internet connection with a limited data plan, B has Windows7 / Ubuntu 15.04 / F22 Live and broadband Internet connection. I want A make a (dnf) list of packages of available updates, which I could download on B and install them offline on A from a USB stick. Is it feasible? Sure. One way would be to create a local repo. I'd set aside a partition on B and creating the local repo on that partition. Then you could copy the RPMs you need on A from this local repo onto the USB stick and do a local update on A. Instructions on creating a local repo: http://dotancohen.com/howto/yum_repo.html -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - I haven't lost my mind. It's backed up on tape somewhere, but - - probably not recoverable.- -- Or if you don't want to mirror repositories, you can run dnf --assumeno upgrade on A, save the resolved packages into a file and use dnf download on B to download them. Then you can install the packages with dnf install on A. To make a script, I'd suggest using the Python API instead of parsing the output of dnf upgrade. -- Radek Holý Associate Software Engineer Software Management Team Red Hat Czech -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dnf headaches.
- Original Message - From: Derrik Walker v2.0 dwal...@doomd.net To: fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 3:44:37 AM Subject: dnf headaches. I seem to have some issues with dnf, and Dr Google isn't helping ... So I installed the Games and Entertainment, which did exactly nothing, except mark it installed. So, I figured out, that if I really want the games installed, I probably should have: # dnf group install with-optional Games and Entertainment Cool except it tells me that Games and Entertainment is already installed. OK, so I'll just remove it and re-install it ... but is says NOPE!!! # dnf group remove Games and Entertainment Warning: Group 'Games and Entertainment' does not exist. ... So, now I can't install it properly, or uninstall it. And the versions I have installed: # rpm -qa | grep ^dnf dnf-1.0.0-1.fc22.noarch dnf-plugins-core-0.1.8-1.fc22.noarch dnf-langpacks-0.10.0-1.fc22.noarch dnf-yum-1.0.0-1.fc22.noarch dnf-conf-1.0.0-1.fc22.noarch Not sure if It's a bug, or if I overlooked something in the documentation. But my kid want's his games! Thanks. -- -- Derrik Derrik Walker v2.0, RHCE dwal...@doomd.net Those UNIX guys, they think weird! -- John C. Dvorak You hit this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1214968 Fixed in the upstream recently. -- Radek Holý Associate Software Engineer Software Management Team Red Hat Czech -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f22: how to change default gateway via line command
Il giorno ven, 12/06/2015 alle 15.20 +0930, Tim ha scritto: Or, modify your DHCP client configuration. When into f22 / NM has disabled the ability to change the default gateway or any value obtained from DHCP via the command line, it had to give the opportunity in to control panel to set up a personalized default gateway (like personal DNS) when you used the DHCP . This was not done, then you should leave the option, as it has always been since it supported the DHCP client, to change / set it via command line or NetworkManager-dispatcher.service But this was not done, and now. IMHO, there is a problem. -- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 22 con Gnome 3.16) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
On 06/12/15 14:35, Dario Lesca wrote: Il giorno ven, 12/06/2015 alle 07.20 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto: If I right click on a file or folder the menu items you ask about are there for me. In this tread I do not talk about CTRL+v|c or right click, but a classic menu in which there are the classic function copy and paste. Like all application have. IMHO: It is absurd remove it I suppose I don't know what you want. I just looked back at F21 and even there a classic menu with copy/paste doesn't exist. And, besides, a place where you can click copy/paste is just a GUI doing CTRL-C/CTRL-V. So, I don't know what added functionality would be supplied by a classic menu. -- Sorta what I want to say when folks habitually complain about Fedora - https://youtu.be/ZArl8fTfub4 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evolution Mail Client Crashing When Opening Message
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 20:08 +0800, Donato Roque wrote: Evolution crashes when I open messages from users-list-fedora.org yes this mailing list. Anyone experiencing same? There's almost no useful information in your post. I recommend you ask on the Evolution mailing list ( https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list), including your version of Evo (Help-About) and more details about how you receive the problem email (IMAP, POP, Exchange) etc. and how the crash is manifested. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Evolution Mail Client Crashing When Opening Message
Evolution crashes when I open messages from users-list-fedora.org yes this mailing list. Anyone experiencing same? -- Use my PGP key http://donatoroque.blogspot.com/2014/07/encrypting-files-via-nautilus-file.html if you want to encrypt your replies/messages to me. You are invited to also send me your PGP keys so we can communicate in private. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
On 06/11/2015 04:27 PM, Dario Lesca wrote: I can not find the copy/cut/paste in the menu of gnome nautilus (files). CTRL+C|V and right-click/copy|paste work, but some time I need this functions that was previously in the menu at the top right. Where are put it now? in following this thread, i have a question for you... in the menu of gnome nautilus are you referring to the Edit that is shown in _menu_bar_ at top of nautyus window? i use kde and konqueror, so i can not offer any answer. just trying to clear up a possible misunderstanding. -- peace out. If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
On 06/12/2015 11:17 AM, Dario Lesca wrote: Il giorno ven, 12/06/2015 alle 10.44 -0600, Ronal B Morse ha scritto: One work-around, Workaround, workaround, workaround ... why I must use a work around when the solution in this case is very simple: do not remove paste function from that menu (and many other useful functions). Into Gnome 3 work around lately are useful feature. I showed you where the function you were looking for was moved. I was under the impression you were looking for assistance. Sorry to waste your time. -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
On 06/12/2015 10:59 AM, Dario Lesca wrote: Il giorno ven, 12/06/2015 alle 07.22 -0500, g ha scritto: i use kde and konqueror, so i can not offer any answer. just trying to clear up a possible misunderstanding. You are lucky, You use KDE and in all your application, especially in your file manager, in some place, typically in menu_bar/edit, I think there is the possibility to use the cut/past function, as well as the usual ctrl+c/v or right click. lucky? maybe. more like planned that way. ;-) i did have to set up konqueror to act as file browser, but that is/was a simple mod with the KDE Menu Editor. now, if i am file browsing and need to check something on inet, it is a simple opening of a new tab and entering the url in location bar. if i want to view an html page, or a site i have stored on my system, it is as easy as clicking on it and i have the html in my file browser. I use Gnome 3 (unfortunately) and in this application: change your luck and stop using gnome. even Linus likes kde and does not like or use gnome. :-) could be Linus enjoys the advantages of kde. now that 'plasma' is out, i imagine he enjoys kde even more. do you want Freedom? have a look at; https://www.kde.org also, read these wiki links for additional info about kde; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIO http://www.maketecheasier.com/quick-easy-guide-to-kde-kio-slaves/ My question is: where it was moved ? or has been removed ? in this case, why? as already stated, i can not answer because i use kde and do not have problems of gnome. ... or this is only a my problem? if you are using gnome and have the problem, then the problem you have is using gnome. if others who use gnome had problem, i believe they would have said so. if you do not like kde because it is a memory hog, then you have 2 choices. add more memory to use kde, or use a desktop manager that uses less memory and 'just works', such as xfce. http://www.xfce.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfce re: graphics i can see what you are talking about from the graphics. seems like you should stop worrying about problem and learn to use both mouse and keyboard shortcuts. -- peace out. -- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. -- CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
On 06/12/2015 02:09 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/12/2015 09:08 AM, Tim wrote: For those who don't want to keep flitting between using the mouse and the keyboard, you wanted to be able to do it all from one or the other. Learn to use both hands. One for the mouse, the other for the keyboard. The keys used for copy/paste are on the left, and most people use the right hand for the mouse. HTH, HAND. and it does not take long to learn using thumb or little finger for ctrl. ;-) -- peace out. -- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. -- CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
On 06/12/2015 09:08 AM, Tim wrote: For those who don't want to keep flitting between using the mouse and the keyboard, you wanted to be able to do it all from one or the other. Learn to use both hands. One for the mouse, the other for the keyboard. The keys used for copy/paste are on the left, and most people use the right hand for the mouse. HTH, HAND. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Someone might take a look at the Kubuntu install
On 06/12/2015 07:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/13/15 00:46, David Cary Hart wrote: I have been experimenting with some virtual machines lately for bug tracking. I am no fan of Ubuntu but the install of their KDE spin takes less than half the time and it installs updated packages from their repositories. The Fedora KDE spin results in a machine requiring (with just base packages) a half-gig (package size) of updates. Fedora is a superior distro. I am just saying that the Kubuntu install is better than ours and might be worth replicating. By the way, I also think it is better to walk through the disk and domain setup in contrast to having the two action blocks which might be obvious to me - but not to a new user migrating from Windows. Were it up to me we would still have the package select option. It's the same dnf bandwidth whether at install or after. But that doesn't seem to be in the cards. The netinstall image, from where you can install KDE, will install the latest updates unless you tell it otherwise. If you think that option is needed from the Live installs you should file an RFE against Anaconda in bugzilla. I have a friends computer here that I have to upgrade from F18 to F22, Is it better to do a netinstall upgrade or a Fresh install of F22 ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
On 06/12/2015 08:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 10:44 -0600, Ronal B Morse wrote: The inability to paste an object into a folder using only the mouse is a problem only in list mode, and then only when the list display is larger than the active window. In icon mode there is always enough space between objects to summon a file actions context menu with a right click. One work-around, if you absolutely must use a mouse action to perform a paste operation into a full list-mode window, is to right click on the tab of the target window in the Nautilus top bar then click on open in new window. That will open the target folder in icon mode (if you haven't changed with the defaults) and you can right-click on any empty space to access the file actions context menu and complete the paste operation from there. Close the new window when done. Does no-one else see the stupidity of replacing a simple menu operation, with a complicated procedure? *IT* is supposed to be the damn computer doing the work. By my count it's exactly one extra mouse click. There's no difference between left-clicking on a menu bar icon or right clicking on a folder tab. The only complication is having to reposition the mouse pointer before making the right click to open the file actions context menu. But I could see where someone might think that a complicated procedure. -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Someone might take a look at the Kubuntu install
On 06/12/2015 04:37 PM, Mickey wrote: I have a friends computer here that I have to upgrade from F18 to F22, Is it better to do a netinstall upgrade or a Fresh install of F22 ? Most people who don't reject upgrades completely say that you shouldn't skip more than one version in upgrading. In this case, you could go from F18 to F20, then from F20 to F22. Depending on how you have things set up, and how many programs you have installed that aren't in the default install, either way might be better. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 and the RPI2B
On Thu, 2015-06-11 at 10:22 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Did that in addition to changing root in /etc/shadow. It booted and gave me a text screen I've never seen before asking to set language, password, etc. I set the password but apparently did not close it correctly, it didn't work and worse yet that apparently only comes up once. I can't get back to it, it goes directly to the graphic login screen and I have no keyboard/mouse control which I would like to investigate via ssh ... Not something to do with firstboot or initial-setup? I seem to recall that if you dropped a dot prefixed filename into the root directory, it'd be read at boot time, and go through the firstboot setup routine. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirstBoot https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/InitialSetup -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Tue May 12 17:42:35 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 10:44 -0600, Ronal B Morse wrote: The inability to paste an object into a folder using only the mouse is a problem only in list mode, and then only when the list display is larger than the active window. In icon mode there is always enough space between objects to summon a file actions context menu with a right click. One work-around, if you absolutely must use a mouse action to perform a paste operation into a full list-mode window, is to right click on the tab of the target window in the Nautilus top bar then click on open in new window. That will open the target folder in icon mode (if you haven't changed with the defaults) and you can right-click on any empty space to access the file actions context menu and complete the paste operation from there. Close the new window when done. Does no-one else see the stupidity of replacing a simple menu operation, with a complicated procedure? *IT* is supposed to be the damn computer doing the work. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Tue May 12 17:42:35 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: WiFi - Realtek - rtl8812au
On 02/03/2015 07:31 AM, poma wrote: On 02.02.2015 20:52, Stephen Morris wrote: I issued this command which didn't display much, but the output is below. The first line is very interesting. Couldn't open device, some information will be missing bcdUSB 2.10 bcdDevice0.00 USB3 device should sound like bcdUSB 3.00 i.e. 0x0300 You didn't answer whether the device finally working, and if so with what exact module/repo, PLD Linux? Sorry for taking so long to reply. The device is now working using the PLD linux method. I have to go up to the site every so often and redownload the code when a later linux kernel is installed. attachment: samorris.vcf-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Someone might take a look at the Kubuntu install
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 17:27 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: I'd suggest a fresh install. There's a lot of stuff that changed very significantly between F18 and F22. You would probably spend more time sorting out problems for each upgrade step than just doing a fresh install and restoring the users' home directories and such. That had been my experience, long ago. After going through that upgrade hell a few times, I vowed not to do it again. It *was* much quicker to backup the few /etc/ configuration files that I had customised, then modify the new install's configuration in a *similar* manner. And similar manner are the keywords, some things change between releases, and old configuration files can cause problems. Doing upgrades over the top doesn't mitigate the problem, few applications seem to be written to read an old configuration file, and update it to the current version. As Joe says, if you want to go the upgrade route, go incrementally (F18-F19-F20-F21-F22). You might get by with F18-F20-F22, but sometimes skipping the interim steps can cause issues, too. It's your choice. That's a hell of a lot of downloading, and timewasting, to go through. Download, start installing, installer grinds gears for ages assessing what you have already installed, trying to make the upgrade be the same. And there can easily be some showstopper that's not in the new release, aborting the install. Then you have the huge install time. Do this several times over. There's system configuration, system-wide application configuration, and per-use application configurations, that all have to be taken into consideration when upgrading. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Tue May 12 17:42:35 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
Tim: For those who don't want to keep flitting between using the mouse and the keyboard, you wanted to be able to do it all from one or the other. Joe Zeff: Learn to use both hands. One for the mouse, the other for the keyboard. The keys used for copy/paste are on the left, and most people use the right hand for the mouse. HTH, HAND. I've certainly done that when managing masses of randomly associated files, but it is an ergonomic nightmare. I am a touch typist, I learnt to type properly in my teens. I don't have a third hand for the mouse. Though I did wonder, a few times, whether there's a foot mouse. And many hotkeys are horrible finger-contortionist combinations. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Tue May 12 17:42:35 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Someone might take a look at the Kubuntu install
On 06/13/15 00:46, David Cary Hart wrote: I have been experimenting with some virtual machines lately for bug tracking. I am no fan of Ubuntu but the install of their KDE spin takes less than half the time and it installs updated packages from their repositories. The Fedora KDE spin results in a machine requiring (with just base packages) a half-gig (package size) of updates. Fedora is a superior distro. I am just saying that the Kubuntu install is better than ours and might be worth replicating. By the way, I also think it is better to walk through the disk and domain setup in contrast to having the two action blocks which might be obvious to me - but not to a new user migrating from Windows. Were it up to me we would still have the package select option. It's the same dnf bandwidth whether at install or after. But that doesn't seem to be in the cards. The netinstall image, from where you can install KDE, will install the latest updates unless you tell it otherwise. If you think that option is needed from the Live installs you should file an RFE against Anaconda in bugzilla. -- Sorta what I want to say when folks habitually complain about Fedora - https://youtu.be/ZArl8fTfub4 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Someone might take a look at the Kubuntu install
On 06/12/2015 07:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/13/15 00:46, David Cary Hart wrote: I have been experimenting with some virtual machines lately for bug tracking. I am no fan of Ubuntu but the install of their KDE spin takes less than half the time and it installs updated packages from their repositories. The Fedora KDE spin results in a machine requiring (with just base packages) a half-gig (package size) of updates. Fedora is a superior distro. I am just saying that the Kubuntu install is better than ours and might be worth replicating. By the way, I also think it is better to walk through the disk and domain setup in contrast to having the two action blocks which might be obvious to me - but not to a new user migrating from Windows. Were it up to me we would still have the package select option. It's the same dnf bandwidth whether at install or after. But that doesn't seem to be in the cards. The netinstall image, from where you can install KDE, will install the latest updates unless you tell it otherwise. If you think that option is needed from the Live installs you should file an RFE against Anaconda in bugzilla. I have been doing this since RH9. The issue I am addressing is the new user who won't even be aware (I assure you) of a KDE spin, let alone the netinstall image. I concede that I was unaware of the netinstall. I honestly don't know how we are attracting new users from Windows (at least that used to be a goal). They are going to end up with Gnome .whatever which is about as much fun as a colonoscopy. At least in the latter you get some great drugs. Activities? Seriously? -- David C. Hart - South Beach http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 14:32 -0500, g wrote: change your luck and stop using gnome. I tend to have a similar mindset. Though there is a third option, you are not forced to use the default file browser in gnome (it can hardly be called a file manager). You can use another, then set your preferences for it to be the default. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Tue May 12 17:42:35 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
On 06/12/2015 08:51 PM, Ronal B Morse wrote: On 06/12/2015 08:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 10:44 -0600, Ronal B Morse wrote: The inability to paste an object into a folder using only the mouse is a problem only in list mode, and then only when the list display is larger than the active window. In icon mode there is always enough space between objects to summon a file actions context menu with a right click. One work-around, if you absolutely must use a mouse action to perform a paste operation into a full list-mode window, is to right click on the tab of the target window in the Nautilus top bar then click on open in new window. That will open the target folder in icon mode (if you haven't changed with the defaults) and you can right-click on any empty space to access the file actions context menu and complete the paste operation from there. Close the new window when done. Does no-one else see the stupidity of replacing a simple menu operation, with a complicated procedure? *IT* is supposed to be the damn computer doing the work. By my count it's exactly one extra mouse click. There's no difference between left-clicking on a menu bar icon or right clicking on a folder tab. The only complication is having to reposition the mouse pointer before making the right click to open the file actions context menu. But I could see where someone might think that a complicated procedure. Didn't mean to sound so harsh. What I meant to say is that while it sounds like it a more complicated set of actions it actually is only one extra step. -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Someone might take a look at the Kubuntu install
On 06/12/2015 04:49 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/12/2015 04:37 PM, Mickey wrote: I have a friends computer here that I have to upgrade from F18 to F22, Is it better to do a netinstall upgrade or a Fresh install of F22 ? Most people who don't reject upgrades completely say that you shouldn't skip more than one version in upgrading. In this case, you could go from F18 to F20, then from F20 to F22. Depending on how you have things set up, and how many programs you have installed that aren't in the default install, either way might be better. I'd suggest a fresh install. There's a lot of stuff that changed very significantly between F18 and F22. You would probably spend more time sorting out problems for each upgrade step than just doing a fresh install and restoring the users' home directories and such. As Joe says, if you want to go the upgrade route, go incrementally (F18-F19-F20-F21-F22). You might get by with F18-F20-F22, but sometimes skipping the interim steps can cause issues, too. It's your choice. Just make real, REAL sure you have a solid backup before you do anything! I can almost guarantee you'll have a Doh! moment or two. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evolution Mail Client Crashing When Opening Message
Il giorno ven, 12/06/2015 alle 20.08 +0800, Donato Roque ha scritto: Evolution crashes when I open messages from users-list-fedora.org yes this mailing list. Anyone experiencing same? yes, in f21 some time, with some message, this issue occur I use pop3 then I goto into .local/share/evolution/mail/local/. find the message, view it with vim and remove it. If you use imap do not have a solution, try use the webmail for view and remove the message. -- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 22 con Gnome 3.16) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
Il giorno ven, 12/06/2015 alle 07.22 -0500, g ha scritto: On 06/11/2015 04:27 PM, Dario Lesca wrote: I can not find the copy/cut/paste in the menu of gnome nautilus (files). CTRL+C|V and right-click/copy|paste work, but some time I need this functions that was previously in the menu at the top right. Where are put it now? in following this thread, i have a question for you... in the menu of gnome nautilus are you referring to the Edit that is shown in _menu_bar_ at top of nautyus window? i use kde and konqueror, so i can not offer any answer. just trying to clear up a possible misunderstanding. You are lucky, You use KDE and in all your application, especially in your file manager, in some place, typically in menu_bar/edit, I think there is the possibility to use the cut/past function, as well as the usual ctrl+c/v or right click. I use Gnome 3 (unfortunately) and in this application: [lesca@dodo ~]$ type nautilus nautilus is /usr/bin/nautilus [lesca@dodo ~]$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/nautilus nautilus-3.16.2-1.fc22.x86_64 [lesca@dodo ~]$ type files bash: type: files: not found called, some time ago, nautilus and now files (not found!), the file manager of Gnome 3. Since f21 there was a function paste into menu show when press the button in top bar. Now in f22 the button in top bar still exist but the function paste (and some other, IMHO, useful functions) in the menu that appears by pressing it is gone. See attached images My question is: where it was moved ? or has been removed ? in this case, why? ... or this is only a my problem? -- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 22 con Gnome 3.16)-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evolution Mail Client Crashing When Opening Message
Allegedly, on or about 12 June 2015, Donato Roque sent: Evolution crashes when I open messages from users-list-fedora.org yes this mailing list. Anyone experiencing same? No. But you haven't provided any other information that might let someone help you. For instance: * Which version of Evolution on which version of Fedora? * Is it on all messages, or just some of the messages? * Do you have a gazillion emails in your inbox? * Are you purging flagged-to-be-deleted messages, or are they simply being hidden from view? * Are you downloading mail with POP, or browsing it through IMAP? * Do you have the message viewer pane showing, or are you opening the messages in a separate window? And that's just some of the questions that might be pertinent to chasing your problem. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
Allegedly, on or about 12 June 2015, Ed Greshko sent: And, besides, a place where you can click copy/paste is just a GUI doing CTRL-C/CTRL-V. So, I don't know what added functionality would be supplied by a classic menu. For those who never knew the hotkeys, it gave you the function and showed you what the hotkeys were. Some people never remember any of the hotkeys. For when there was no free space in the browser window to right-click and get a pop-up menu (with paste options), the menu gave you the only place you could use the mouse to pick the paste option. For those who don't want to keep flitting between using the mouse and the keyboard, you wanted to be able to do it all from one or the other. And navigating, then selecting various files to copy, using the keyboard alone, is a nightmare. All in all, gnome is becoming a thorough nuisance to use. And KDE has never been a walk in the park, either. I've been using mate for the last couple of years, or so. It has the simplicity of the old Gnome, without the over-simplicity of the new Gnome, nor the over-complication of KDE. Not to mention, it's not the huge resource pig of Gnome or KDE. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. This email brought to you by potato omelates: Boil three medium potatoes for ten minutes, then smash them (that's mash them only once, so they're chunky). Stir up four eggs, like you're going to make scrambled eggs. Mix potatoes and eggs together. Melt a large lump of butter in a frypan. Slowly fry small helpings until golden brown. Replenish the butter as you go along, don't burn the butter. Tip out any butter that's starting to burn, as you go along. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
Il giorno ven, 12/06/2015 alle 14.55 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto: I just looked back at F21 and even there a classic menu with copy/paste doesn't exist. And, besides, a place where you can click copy/paste is just a GUI doing CTRL-C/CTRL-V. So, I don't know what added functionality would be supplied by a classic menu. Into f21 there is a button in top bar, when pressed show a menu with paste function. In F22 this function into menu show when press same button into top bar is gone. where it was moved? -- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 22 con Gnome 3.16) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
[389-users] 389-admin-1.1.36
Where can I go to see the difference between: 389-admin-1.1.36 and 389-admin-1.1.35-1.el6.x86_64 -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] 389-admin-1.1.36
On 06/12/2015 09:44 AM, Derek Belcher wrote: Where can I go to see the difference between: 389-admin-1.1.36 and 389-admin-1.1.35-1.el6.x86_64 If you checkout the repo from git: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/389/admin.git You could do $ git diff 389-admin-1.1.35..389-admin-1.1.36 -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] 389-admin-1.1.36
Excellent! Thank you. On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com wrote: On 06/12/2015 09:44 AM, Derek Belcher wrote: Where can I go to see the difference between: 389-admin-1.1.36 and 389-admin-1.1.35-1.el6.x86_64 If you checkout the repo from git: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/389/admin.git You could do $ git diff 389-admin-1.1.35..389-admin-1.1.36 -- 389 users mailing list389-users@lists.fedoraproject.orghttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Someone might take a look at the Kubuntu install
I have been experimenting with some virtual machines lately for bug tracking. I am no fan of Ubuntu but the install of their KDE spin takes less than half the time and it installs updated packages from their repositories. The Fedora KDE spin results in a machine requiring (with just base packages) a half-gig (package size) of updates. Fedora is a superior distro. I am just saying that the Kubuntu install is better than ours and might be worth replicating. By the way, I also think it is better to walk through the disk and domain setup in contrast to having the two action blocks which might be obvious to me - but not to a new user migrating from Windows. Were it up to me we would still have the package select option. It's the same dnf bandwidth whether at install or after. But that doesn't seem to be in the cards. -- David C. Hart - South Beach http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
software packagekit - install without restart?
Can I configure packagekit so when it pops up that there are updates, I can click install WITHOUT restarting the system? -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
Il giorno ven, 12/06/2015 alle 10.44 -0600, Ronal B Morse ha scritto: One work-around, Workaround, workaround, workaround ... why I must use a work around when the solution in this case is very simple: do not remove paste function from that menu (and many other useful functions). Into Gnome 3 work around lately are useful feature. -- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 22 con Gnome 3.16) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where is the menu function copy, cut and paste in gnome nautilus/file 3.16.2
On 06/12/2015 10:11 AM, Dario Lesca wrote: Il giorno ven, 12/06/2015 alle 14.55 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto: I just looked back at F21 and even there a classic menu with copy/paste doesn't exist. And, besides, a place where you can click copy/paste is just a GUI doing CTRL-C/CTRL-V. So, I don't know what added functionality would be supplied by a classic menu. Into f21 there is a button in top bar, when pressed show a menu with paste function. In F22 this function into menu show when press same button into top bar is gone. where it was moved? The inability to paste an object into a folder using only the mouse is a problem only in list mode, and then only when the list display is larger than the active window. In icon mode there is always enough space between objects to summon a file actions context menu with a right click. One work-around, if you absolutely must use a mouse action to perform a paste operation into a full list-mode window, is to right click on the tab of the target window in the Nautilus top bar then click on open in new window. That will open the target folder in icon mode (if you haven't changed with the defaults) and you can right-click on any empty space to access the file actions context menu and complete the paste operation from there. Close the new window when done. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
[389-users] Delete a domain with Kolab
Hello Christian,
I read your thread from March 2015, about the problems deleting the domain.
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/389-users/2015-March/017880.html
I had the same problem, and finally I found a solution.
Somehow, this leaf object is not deleted when you remove the domain:
cn=kolab-admin,dc=dertest2,dc=de:
{cn:kolab-admin,objectclass:[top,ldapsubentry,nsroledefinition,nssimpleroledefinition,nsmanagedroledefinition]}
The object class ldapsubentry is something special, I guess.
When I specifically delete this leaf first, then I can delete the
domain without any problems.
See more details and the fix here:
https://issues.kolab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5100
Hope this helps,
Timotheus
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