Re: 802.11n WIFI speeds
Stephen Morris writes: >> As always, YMMV. I find 802.11n fine for what I need wifi for, although >> I do have 802.11ac available as well. If I need higher speed, my house >> is fully CAT6-ified with an Extreme Summit 400-48T 48-port switch in the >> middle, so I can "go copper" if I need higher speed (sorta gilding the >> lily since my Internet link is only 100Mbps upload (download is faster, >> but I do a lot of uploading due to my job). Thanks Rick and Steve. I was just curious as to whether my new laptop could get the claimed speeds over wifi. I too have gigabit ethernet around the house and plug into that normally. As far as I can tell 802.11ac still has little support on open-source / linux-based routers, so I'll hold off upgrading my router. Besides, 'ac probably has the same 2x overstatement of advertised speed vs actual measured speed. ;-) -wolfgang -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Cannot access my phone storage from fc22
Will W writes: > On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, Tim wrote: > >> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:45:18 +1030 >> From: Tim >> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users >> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Subject: Re: Cannot access my phone storage from fc22 >> >> Allegedly, on or about 04 January 2016, Will W sent: >>> I know a lot of people mentioned about the cable, the only one that >>> seems to work for me is the cable that came with the phone >> >> With something like that, it makes me wonder whether there's a problem >> with the contacts in the phone's socket, and some cables just make poor >> connections. > > I agree there but with genernic cables it works sometimes for me. It > is weird tho. There are "charging-only" cables that intentionally leave out the data wires. These are a good idea when you don't want some random charger at a coffee shop or airport to download all your pictures and other data while your phone is charging. -wolfgang -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Cannot access my phone storage from fc22
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, Tim wrote: Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:45:18 +1030 From: Tim Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Cannot access my phone storage from fc22 Allegedly, on or about 04 January 2016, Will W sent: I know a lot of people mentioned about the cable, the only one that seems to work for me is the cable that came with the phone With something like that, it makes me wonder whether there's a problem with the contacts in the phone's socket, and some cables just make poor connections. I agree there but with genernic cables it works sometimes for me. It is weird tho. Regards, Will W -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: 802.11n WIFI speeds
On 06/01/16 04:50, Rick Stevens wrote: On 01/04/2016 06:34 PM, Jack Craig wrote: how due you calculate throughput? i have a wireless config for 54 Mbit/sec but never measured... On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht mailto:wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com>> wrote: Does Fedora/Linux support the faster than 54 Mbit/sec 802.11n speeds? My OpenWRT AP has a status page that claims that the 5 Ghz radio is configured for a 150 Mbits/sec 40Mhz (double-wide) channel. I'm only seeing a 54 Mbit/sec throughput over WIFI though. (Over ethernet to the same router I'm seeing the expected 180 Mbits/sec to the internet.) This is what lshw(1) has to say about the wifi card: *-network description: Wireless interface product: RTL8821AE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:03:00.0 logical name: wlp3s0 version: 00 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rtl8821ae driverversion=4.2.8-300.fc23.x86_64 firmware=N/A ip=192.168.75.107 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn resources: irq:52 ioport:3000(size=256) memory:b200-b2003fff Does this ring any bells? I can easily believe that the faster speeds are proprietary extensions but figured I'd check. AFAIK, 802.11n has a theoretical limit of 160Mbps. However, that's over that full, 40MHz double-wide channel with no channel contention and no other radios active. The radio on your AP is shared among all users of the AP so you have to take that into account. The theoretical limits of the radio are probably only approached in a lab environment for any wifi technology. The real world is, well, different. :-) If you want higher speeds, then 802.11ac is a better route. Note that it only works over the 5GHz radio (not the 2.4GHz that 802.11n can use), so it doesn't have the range or "penetration power" (ability to go through walls, etc.) that the 2.4GHz band has. None the less, it is faster (theoretically over 8 times faster than 802.11n due to a number of additional things done in the protocol, muxing, antenna handling and session management). Just one point on this, I have a Belkin 1750 ac modem/router that has 2 usually used SSID's, one that runs only over the 2.4GHz band and one that runs over the 2.4GHz band and the 5GHz band as documented (I'm also being told that ac gets its faster throughput because it does use the 2.4 GHz and 5GHz bands at the same time). The issue I have found is that with the 2.4GHz mode I lose about 200 KiloBytes/sec download over the 802.11n modem/router I replaced, and, the mode that uses both bands doesn't change that but that mode is notoriously unreliable for playing online games. I'm also using a usb wireless card on my pc to get the ac compatibility, but I need to compile the driver every time the kernel changes because it has a chipset in it that is not supported by Fedora, and I'm told it never will be. These are just things that need to be considered when evaluating whether or not to swap from 802.11n to 802.11ac, you may also want to consider whether or not you want/have a need to change to the 802.11 protocols beyond 802.11ac as well. regards, Steve As always, YMMV. I find 802.11n fine for what I need wifi for, although I do have 802.11ac available as well. If I need higher speed, my house is fully CAT6-ified with an Extreme Summit 400-48T 48-port switch in the middle, so I can "go copper" if I need higher speed (sorta gilding the lily since my Internet link is only 100Mbps upload (download is faster, but I do a lot of uploading due to my job). -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at - - from both sides. --A.M. Greeley- -- <>-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Scroll Bars not Working Properly in F22 Applications in KDE
On 04/01/16 07:48, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/03/2016 12:35 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Since raising this issue I have upgraded to F23 and nothing has changed. Have you tried creating a new user to see if anything changes? I created a new user and it did not make any difference to the issue other than to highlight other issues that I consider to be defects with F23 (I will raise these in other threads when I get the chance). There was a slight difference to the displays, in that, Gedit seemed to display with the same theme under both Gnome Classic and Plasma, but Thunderbird displayed with a different theme under Gnome Classic to that used under Plasma. Under Gnome it seemed to use the same theme that Gedit used, but under Plasma it used a different theme in that the title bar was dark grey and used a different icon set to that used by Gedit. I didn't try firefox under Gnome but under Plasma it used the same theme as Thunderbird. regards, Steve <>-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: 802.11n WIFI speeds
On 01/04/2016 06:34 PM, Jack Craig wrote: how due you calculate throughput? i have a wireless config for 54 Mbit/sec but never measured... On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht mailto:wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com>> wrote: Does Fedora/Linux support the faster than 54 Mbit/sec 802.11n speeds? My OpenWRT AP has a status page that claims that the 5 Ghz radio is configured for a 150 Mbits/sec 40Mhz (double-wide) channel. I'm only seeing a 54 Mbit/sec throughput over WIFI though. (Over ethernet to the same router I'm seeing the expected 180 Mbits/sec to the internet.) This is what lshw(1) has to say about the wifi card: *-network description: Wireless interface product: RTL8821AE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:03:00.0 logical name: wlp3s0 version: 00 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rtl8821ae driverversion=4.2.8-300.fc23.x86_64 firmware=N/A ip=192.168.75.107 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn resources: irq:52 ioport:3000(size=256) memory:b200-b2003fff Does this ring any bells? I can easily believe that the faster speeds are proprietary extensions but figured I'd check. AFAIK, 802.11n has a theoretical limit of 160Mbps. However, that's over that full, 40MHz double-wide channel with no channel contention and no other radios active. The radio on your AP is shared among all users of the AP so you have to take that into account. The theoretical limits of the radio are probably only approached in a lab environment for any wifi technology. The real world is, well, different. :-) If you want higher speeds, then 802.11ac is a better route. Note that it only works over the 5GHz radio (not the 2.4GHz that 802.11n can use), so it doesn't have the range or "penetration power" (ability to go through walls, etc.) that the 2.4GHz band has. None the less, it is faster (theoretically over 8 times faster than 802.11n due to a number of additional things done in the protocol, muxing, antenna handling and session management). As always, YMMV. I find 802.11n fine for what I need wifi for, although I do have 802.11ac available as well. If I need higher speed, my house is fully CAT6-ified with an Extreme Summit 400-48T 48-port switch in the middle, so I can "go copper" if I need higher speed (sorta gilding the lily since my Internet link is only 100Mbps upload (download is faster, but I do a lot of uploading due to my job). -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at - - from both sides. --A.M. Greeley- -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: 802.11n WIFI speeds
Jack Craig writes: > how due you calculate throughput? i have a wireless config for 54 > Mbit/sec > but never measured... I used one of the web-based speed tests such as http://speedtest.comcast.net/ . That test is flash-based but there are others that use straight html such as http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest . -wolfgang -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: No second monitor - Fedora23 KDE spin
CS DBA wrote: > All; > > I'm running Fedora 23, KDE spin. I've fully updated my system. several > updated back I could plug in a second monitor, go to system settings --> > display and click on the second monitor to 'enable' it > > However a few updates back this functionality stopped working. Now I > plug in the HDMI cable, go to system settings --> Display and it only > show the laptop screen. > > I've installed the Cinnamon desktop and it seems to work flawlessly per > auto-adding the second monitor as soon as I plug the HDMI cable in. I > suspect this confirms that it's a KDE issue and not a Kernel issue, but > I'm not 100% sure. > > > Any thoughts on debugging this? > > I'm running on a Lenovo X1 Carbon 3rd gen, lspci listing below, thanks > in advance > > > $ lspci > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Host Bridge -OPI (rev > 09) > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U > Integrated Graphics (rev 09) > 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller > (rev 09) > 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP USB xHCI > Controller (rev 03) > 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP MEI > Controller #1 (rev 03) > 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (3) > I218-LM (rev 03) > 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP High Definition > Audio Controller (rev 03) > 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP PCI Express Root > Port #2 (rev e3) > 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP PCI Express Root > Port #3 (rev e3) > 00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP PCI Express Root > Port #6 (rev e3) > 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP USB EHCI > Controller (rev 03) > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP LPC Controller > (rev 03) > 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP SMBus Controller (rev > 03) 00:1f.6 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Wildcat > Point-LP Thermal Management Controller (rev 03) > 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 (rev 59) > 0a:00.0 SATA controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd Device a801 (rev 01) > I find I need to manually run xrandr (mine's intel graphics) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
NUT config for Powercool UPS
I've just bought a Powercool UPS from my local supplier as it seemed a very good price for my needs - 1 headless server for home automation etc. However, I can't get it to work with NUT. Google hasn't returned anything useful. I've checked (too late) the hardware compatibility list and it's not on, but there are sections on generic USB connections but I can't seem to make any progress with this. Before I return this unit, and spend much more on a compatible unit, can anyone help me. Ta -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org