Re: 802.11n WIFI speeds

2016-01-05 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

Stephen Morris  writes:
>> As always, YMMV. I find 802.11n fine for what I need wifi for, although
>> I do have 802.11ac available as well. If I need higher speed, my house
>> is fully CAT6-ified with an Extreme Summit 400-48T 48-port switch in the
>> middle, so I can "go copper" if I need higher speed (sorta gilding the
>> lily since my Internet link is only 100Mbps upload (download is faster,
>> but I do a lot of uploading due to my job).

Thanks Rick and Steve.  I was just curious as to whether my new laptop
could get the claimed speeds over wifi.  I too have gigabit ethernet
around the house and plug into that normally.

As far as I can tell 802.11ac still has little support on open-source /
linux-based routers, so I'll hold off upgrading my router.  Besides, 'ac
probably has the same 2x overstatement of advertised speed vs actual
measured speed. ;-)

-wolfgang
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Re: Cannot access my phone storage from fc22

2016-01-05 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

Will W  writes:
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, Tim wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:45:18 +1030
>> From: Tim 
>> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users 
>> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
>> Subject: Re: Cannot access my phone storage from fc22
>>
>> Allegedly, on or about 04 January 2016, Will W sent:
>>> I know a lot of people mentioned about the cable, the only one that
>>> seems to work for me is the cable that came with the phone 
>>
>> With something like that, it makes me wonder whether there's a problem
>> with the contacts in the phone's socket, and some cables just make poor
>> connections.
>
> I agree there but with genernic cables it works sometimes for me. It
> is weird tho.

There are "charging-only" cables that intentionally leave out the data
wires.  These are a good idea when you don't want some random charger at
a coffee shop or airport to download all your pictures and other data
while your phone is charging.

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Re: Cannot access my phone storage from fc22

2016-01-05 Thread Will W

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, Tim wrote:


Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:45:18 +1030
From: Tim 
Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users 
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: Cannot access my phone storage from fc22

Allegedly, on or about 04 January 2016, Will W sent:

I know a lot of people mentioned about the cable, the only one that
seems to work for me is the cable that came with the phone 


With something like that, it makes me wonder whether there's a problem
with the contacts in the phone's socket, and some cables just make poor
connections.


I agree there but with genernic cables it works sometimes for me. It is weird 
tho.


Regards,
Will W
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Re: 802.11n WIFI speeds

2016-01-05 Thread Stephen Morris

On 06/01/16 04:50, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 01/04/2016 06:34 PM, Jack Craig wrote:
how due you calculate throughput? i have a wireless config for 54 
Mbit/sec

but never measured...

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
mailto:wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:



Does Fedora/Linux support the faster than 54 Mbit/sec 802.11n 
speeds?


My OpenWRT AP has a status page that claims that the 5 Ghz radio is
configured for a 150 Mbits/sec 40Mhz (double-wide) channel. I'm only
seeing a 54 Mbit/sec throughput over WIFI though.  (Over ethernet 
to the

same router I'm seeing the expected 180 Mbits/sec to the internet.)

This is what lshw(1) has to say about the wifi card:

   *-network
 description: Wireless interface
 product: RTL8821AE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network
Adapter
 vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
 physical id: 0
 bus info: pci@:03:00.0
 logical name: wlp3s0
 version: 00
 width: 64 bits
 clock: 33MHz
 capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
ethernet physical wireless
 configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rtl8821ae
driverversion=4.2.8-300.fc23.x86_64 firmware=N/A ip=192.168.75.107
latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn
 resources: irq:52 ioport:3000(size=256)
memory:b200-b2003fff

Does this ring any bells?  I can easily believe that the faster 
speeds

are proprietary extensions but figured I'd check.


AFAIK, 802.11n has a theoretical limit of 160Mbps. However, that's over
that full, 40MHz double-wide channel with no channel contention and no
other radios active. The radio on your AP is shared among all users of
the AP so you have to take that into account. The theoretical limits
of the radio are probably only approached in a lab environment for any
wifi technology. The real world is, well, different. :-)

If you want higher speeds, then 802.11ac is a better route. Note that
it only works over the 5GHz radio (not the 2.4GHz that 802.11n can
use), so it doesn't have the range or "penetration power" (ability to
go through walls, etc.) that the 2.4GHz band has. None the less, it is
faster (theoretically over 8 times faster than 802.11n due to a number
of additional things done in the protocol, muxing, antenna handling and
session management).
Just one point on this, I have a Belkin 1750 ac modem/router that has 2 
usually used SSID's, one that runs only over the 2.4GHz band and one 
that runs over the 2.4GHz band and the 5GHz band as documented (I'm also 
being told that ac gets its faster throughput because it does use the 
2.4 GHz and 5GHz bands at the same time). The issue I have found is that 
with the 2.4GHz mode I lose about 200 KiloBytes/sec download over the 
802.11n modem/router I replaced, and, the mode that uses both bands 
doesn't change that but that mode is notoriously unreliable for playing 
online games. I'm also using a usb wireless card on my pc to get the ac 
compatibility, but I need to compile the driver every time the kernel 
changes because it has a chipset in it that is not supported by Fedora, 
and I'm told it never will be.
These are just things that need to be considered when evaluating whether 
or not to swap from 802.11n to 802.11ac, you may also want to consider 
whether or not you want/have a need to change to the 802.11 protocols 
beyond 802.11ac as well.


regards,
Steve



As always, YMMV. I find 802.11n fine for what I need wifi for, although
I do have 802.11ac available as well. If I need higher speed, my house
is fully CAT6-ified with an Extreme Summit 400-48T 48-port switch in the
middle, so I can "go copper" if I need higher speed (sorta gilding the
lily since my Internet link is only 100Mbps upload (download is faster,
but I do a lot of uploading due to my job).
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Re: Scroll Bars not Working Properly in F22 Applications in KDE

2016-01-05 Thread Stephen Morris

On 04/01/16 07:48, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 01/03/2016 12:35 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:

Since raising this issue I have upgraded to F23 and nothing has changed.


Have you tried creating a new user to see if anything changes?
I created a new user and it did not make any difference to the issue 
other than to highlight other issues that I consider to be defects with 
F23 (I will raise these in other threads when I get the chance).
There was a slight difference to the displays, in that, Gedit seemed to 
display with the same theme under both Gnome Classic and Plasma, but 
Thunderbird displayed with a different theme under Gnome Classic to that 
used under Plasma. Under Gnome it seemed to use the same theme that 
Gedit used, but under Plasma it used a different theme in that the title 
bar was dark grey and used a different icon set to that used by Gedit. I 
didn't try firefox under Gnome but under Plasma it used the same theme 
as Thunderbird.


regards,
Steve

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Re: 802.11n WIFI speeds

2016-01-05 Thread Rick Stevens

On 01/04/2016 06:34 PM, Jack Craig wrote:

how due you calculate throughput? i have a wireless config for 54 Mbit/sec
but never measured...

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
mailto:wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Does Fedora/Linux support the faster than 54 Mbit/sec 802.11n speeds?

My OpenWRT AP has a status page that claims that the 5 Ghz radio is
configured for a 150 Mbits/sec 40Mhz (double-wide) channel.  I'm only
seeing a 54 Mbit/sec throughput over WIFI though.  (Over ethernet to the
same router I'm seeing the expected 180 Mbits/sec to the internet.)

This is what lshw(1) has to say about the wifi card:

   *-network
 description: Wireless interface
 product: RTL8821AE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network
Adapter
 vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
 physical id: 0
 bus info: pci@:03:00.0
 logical name: wlp3s0
 version: 00
 width: 64 bits
 clock: 33MHz
 capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
ethernet physical wireless
 configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rtl8821ae
driverversion=4.2.8-300.fc23.x86_64 firmware=N/A ip=192.168.75.107
latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn
 resources: irq:52 ioport:3000(size=256)
memory:b200-b2003fff

Does this ring any bells?  I can easily believe that the faster speeds
are proprietary extensions but figured I'd check.


AFAIK, 802.11n has a theoretical limit of 160Mbps. However, that's over
that full, 40MHz double-wide channel with no channel contention and no
other radios active. The radio on your AP is shared among all users of
the AP so you have to take that into account. The theoretical limits
of the radio are probably only approached in a lab environment for any
wifi technology. The real world is, well, different. :-)

If you want higher speeds, then 802.11ac is a better route. Note that
it only works over the 5GHz radio (not the 2.4GHz that 802.11n can
use), so it doesn't have the range or "penetration power" (ability to
go through walls, etc.) that the 2.4GHz band has. None the less, it is
faster (theoretically over 8 times faster than 802.11n due to a number
of additional things done in the protocol, muxing, antenna handling and
session management).

As always, YMMV. I find 802.11n fine for what I need wifi for, although
I do have 802.11ac available as well. If I need higher speed, my house
is fully CAT6-ified with an Extreme Summit 400-48T 48-port switch in the
middle, so I can "go copper" if I need higher speed (sorta gilding the
lily since my Internet link is only 100Mbps upload (download is faster,
but I do a lot of uploading due to my job).
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Re: 802.11n WIFI speeds

2016-01-05 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

Jack Craig  writes:
> how due you calculate throughput? i have a wireless config for 54
> Mbit/sec 
> but never measured...

I used one of the web-based speed tests such as
http://speedtest.comcast.net/ .  That test is flash-based but there are
others that use straight html such as
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest .

-wolfgang
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Re: No second monitor - Fedora23 KDE spin

2016-01-05 Thread Neal Becker
CS DBA wrote:

> All;
> 
> I'm running Fedora 23, KDE spin. I've fully updated my system. several
> updated back I could plug in a second monitor, go to system settings -->
> display and click on the second monitor to 'enable' it
> 
> However a few updates back this functionality stopped working. Now I
> plug in the HDMI cable, go to system settings --> Display and it only
> show the laptop screen.
> 
> I've installed the Cinnamon desktop and it seems to work flawlessly per
> auto-adding the second monitor as soon as I plug the HDMI cable in.  I
> suspect this confirms that it's a KDE issue and not a Kernel issue, but
> I'm not 100% sure.
> 
> 
> Any thoughts on debugging this?
> 
> I'm running on a Lenovo X1 Carbon 3rd gen, lspci listing below, thanks
> in advance
> 
> 
> $ lspci
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Host Bridge -OPI (rev
> 09)
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U
> Integrated Graphics (rev 09)
> 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller
> (rev 09)
> 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP USB xHCI
> Controller (rev 03)
> 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP MEI
> Controller #1 (rev 03)
> 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (3)
> I218-LM (rev 03)
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP High Definition
> Audio Controller (rev 03)
> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP PCI Express Root
> Port #2 (rev e3)
> 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP PCI Express Root
> Port #3 (rev e3)
> 00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP PCI Express Root
> Port #6 (rev e3)
> 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP USB EHCI
> Controller (rev 03)
> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP LPC Controller
> (rev 03)
> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP SMBus Controller (rev
> 03) 00:1f.6 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Wildcat
> Point-LP Thermal Management Controller (rev 03)
> 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 (rev 59)
> 0a:00.0 SATA controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd Device a801 (rev 01)
> 

I find I need to manually run xrandr (mine's intel graphics)

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NUT config for Powercool UPS

2016-01-05 Thread Gary Stainburn
I've just bought a Powercool UPS from my local supplier as it seemed a very 
good price for my needs - 1 headless server for home automation etc.

However, I can't get it to work with NUT.  Google hasn't returned anything 
useful. 

I've checked (too late) the hardware compatibility list and it's not on, but 
there are sections  on generic USB connections but I can't seem to make any 
progress with this.

Before I return this unit, and spend much more on a compatible unit, can 
anyone help me.

Ta
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