Re: Restart Xorg server and Noveau driver

2018-03-19 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 19 March 2018, Javier Perez sent:
> My question is: How can I restart the Xorg server and/or the nouveau
> driver?

Next time you're logged in and things are working, go into the keyboard
preferences, and delve through the keyboard layout options.  There's a
hotkey, that's traditionally CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart X, but has
been disabled by default, for quite some time.  It's one of the first
things I re-enable on new systems.

If remotely logging into a stalled system, run the "top" command and
find Xorg, you could try killing it.  I used to do something like
switch to runlevel 3 (command line only), wait for that to complete,
then switch back to runlevel 5 (GUI).  There's probably other ways,
too.

-- 
[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp
Linux 4.15.7-200.fc26.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Feb 28 18:01:11 UTC 2018 x86_64

Boilerplate:  All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted.
There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see
the messages posted to the mailing list.

Ha ha ha ha...
(I couldn't think of a good joke, so I supplied a laugh track, instead.)
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Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

2018-03-19 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 19 March 2018, William sent:
> I've seen posts to closed and solved issues before, so if anyone has
> something helpful, go ahead and post it, or start a new thread

A thought just occurred to me:  In the past, often when someone had an
issue where data came through in dribs and drabs, and had transmission
failures, the MTU setting on the network (your PC, your router,
upstream), was often the culprit.

Perhaps start a thread asking about that, see if those more familiar
with it, might take a look at it from that angle.

$ ifconfig 
enp0s31f6: flags=4163  mtu 1500
inet 192.168.1.12  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 192.168.1.255
...[snip]


-- 
[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp
Linux 4.15.7-200.fc26.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Feb 28 18:01:11 UTC 2018 x86_64

Boilerplate:  All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted.
There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see
the messages posted to the mailing list.

I'd just like to say that vinyl record crackles and pops are far
less annoying than digigigigital mu-u-u-u-usic hiccicicicups and
yooo-u tu-be ... pauses.
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Re: Where do I find this srpm?

2018-03-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/20/18 11:04, ToddAndMargo wrote:
> On 03/19/2018 07:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 03/20/18 10:02, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>>>
>>> Ya, on the out dated Android.  As soon as I get the doc and stuff
>>> backed up to my computer, I will set it to upgrading.
>>
>>
>> Good idea.
>>
>> BTW, in one of your posts you asked about a "workaround".   
>
> I was wide open to suggestion
>
>> I think what you meant
>> was an alternative to MTP?  If so, you could always install an sftp client 
>> on the
>> Android device and transfer files that way.  I happen to have a NAS with its 
>> own
>> utilities for transferring files over WiFi so I don't have to deal with 
>> cables.
>> Slower?  Sure.  But convenient.  :-)
>
> Well now.  "That" operating system whose name I shall not mention,
> running under qemu-kvm, is reading the table without issue.

My old device finally charged to 20%.  It identifies as

usb 2-1.3: new high-speed USB device number 14 using ehci-pci
usb 2-1.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0b05, idProduct=5500
usb 2-1.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=2, Product=3, SerialNumber=4
usb 2-1.3: Product: Android
usb 2-1.3: Manufacturer: Android

It is actually a Tablet sold by ASUS.  It is defined in music-players.h

  { "Asus", 0x0b05, "K010 (MTP)", 0x5500,
  DEVICE_FLAGS_ANDROID_BUGS },

It is running Android 4.4 and there is no upgrade available.  Which if fine 
sine it
is as slow as molasses in winter.

Plugging it in gets me no pop-up.  I can view files, delete files, and download 
files
using dolphin in KDE.
 

>
> Thank you for all the help with this!
>

Well, OK.  But sadly the issue persists for you.  :-(


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Re: Where do I find this srpm?

2018-03-19 Thread ToddAndMargo

On 03/19/2018 07:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/20/18 10:02, ToddAndMargo wrote:


Ya, on the out dated Android.  As soon as I get the doc and stuff
backed up to my computer, I will set it to upgrading.



Good idea.

BTW, in one of your posts you asked about a "workaround".   


I was wide open to suggestion


I think what you meant
was an alternative to MTP?  If so, you could always install an sftp client on 
the
Android device and transfer files that way.  I happen to have a NAS with its own
utilities for transferring files over WiFi so I don't have to deal with cables.
Slower?  Sure.  But convenient.  :-)


Well now.  "That" operating system whose name I shall not mention,
running under qemu-kvm, is reading the table without issue.

Thank you for all the help with this!
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Re: Where do I find this srpm?

2018-03-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/20/18 10:02, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>
> Ya, on the out dated Android.  As soon as I get the doc and stuff
> backed up to my computer, I will set it to upgrading.


Good idea.

BTW, in one of your posts you asked about a "workaround".   I think what you 
meant
was an alternative to MTP?  If so, you could always install an sftp client on 
the
Android device and transfer files that way.  I happen to have a NAS with its own
utilities for transferring files over WiFi so I don't have to deal with cables. 
Slower?  Sure.  But convenient.  :-) 

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Re: Where do I find this srpm?

2018-03-19 Thread ToddAndMargo

On 03/19/2018 06:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

One other question, which has been prompted by some googling.  Are you using the
original USB cable that came with the tablet?  I see reports of people having
problems with MTP when using "foreign" cables.


Ya, on the out dated Android.  As soon as I get the doc and stuff
backed up to my computer, I will set it to upgrading.  I have
several qemu-kvm virtual machines of "that" operating system
whose name I shall not mention (I hear it is expensive, slow,
and really buggy) which should be able to read the tablet.

The cable is the same cable that work under Scientific Linux 7.4/5
(Speaking of buggy!)

The irony that KVM is a Red Hat project and Red Hat can not
upgrade qemu-kvm to anything close to the current version
is not lost on me:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1518387
qemu-kvm works, so, so much better under Fedora than RHEL, that
I am still giddy.
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Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-19 Thread chicago
I think you need to be here in the US to register a new number though? Also if 
you don't use it for so long it goes away. 

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Re: Kernel installed in wrong location

2018-03-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/20/18 07:23, CLOSE Dave wrote:
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>>> [root@machine ~]# ls /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b
>>> 0-rescue 4.13.10-200.fc26.x86_64  4.13.9-200.fc26.x86_64
>>> 4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.11-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64
>>> 4.12.11-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.12-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.4-200.fc26.x86_64
>>> 4.12.12-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.13-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.5-200.fc26.x86_64
>>> 4.12.13-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.15-100.fc25.x86_64  4.14.6-200.fc26.x86_64
>>> 4.12.14-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.15-200.fc26.x86_64  4.15.8-300.fc27.x86_64
>>> 4.12.5-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.16-200.fc26.x86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
>>> 4.12.8-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.16-202.fc26.x86_64
>>> 4.12.9-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.4-200.fc26.x86_64
>> All of those directories are empty, yes?
> Most, but not all:
>
>
>> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.15.8-300.fc27.x86_64:
>> initrd  linux
>> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64:
>> initrd  linux


I get the feeling, based on the name of the directory and most of them being 
empty,
that these are just "temporary" directories that are just not getting deleted 
for
some reason.  I doubt there would be any problem to delete them.


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Re: Where do I find this srpm?

2018-03-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/20/18 07:29, ToddAndMargo wrote:
> I am sending to both the list and directly to you in case I get
> the finger wagged at me for using HTML.
>
> Lenovo A10-70F
> Android 5.0.1
> Kernel 3.10.61

OK.  That is a rather old version of Android.  All of the devices that I use on 
a
regular basis are at Android 7.  I am in the process of charging an older 
tablet that
I've not used in a long time.  I think it is either running Android 4 or 5.

>
> When I connect the USB, the Popup on the tablet is
>  Media device (MTP)
>  Camera (PTP)
>  Charge Only
>  Built-in CD-ROM

Seems like newer versions of Android may only use MTP so that pop-up isn't 
presented
these days.

One other question, which has been prompted by some googling.  Are you using the
original USB cable that came with the tablet?  I see reports of people having
problems with MTP when using "foreign" cables.

When my device charges I'll give it a try to see if it works as well as my newer
devices. 

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Re: include unicode chars in TeX/LaTeX documents

2018-03-19 Thread Antonio Olivares
 

On Monday, March 19, 2018, 3:41:50 PM CDT, Andras Simon  
wrote:  
 
 2018-03-19 19:07 GMT+01:00, François Patte
:
>
> Here is MWE:
>
> \documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{article}
>
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> \newfontfamily{\uni}{Unifont}
>
> \begin{document}
>
> {\uni%
> \symbol{"26BD}
> }
>
> \end{document}
>
> This suppose that you have the unifont.ttf installed on your machine.

Thanks! To the OP: you should

dnf install unifont-font

and then you can xelatex François' example.
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/***/
Thank you very much for your help!   That did the job.  Now my pdf a soccerball 
appears :)This way I can put which players have how many goals by putting 
soccerballs next to their names !
$ cat sb2.tex 
\documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{article}

\usepackage{fontspec}
\newfontfamily{\uni}{Unifont}

\begin{document}

{\uni%
\symbol{"26BD}
}

\end{document}$ xelatex sb2.tex 
This is XeTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-0.8 (TeX Live 2017) (preloaded 
format=xelatex)
 restricted \write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
(./sb2.tex
LaTeX2e <2017-04-15>
Babel <3.16> and hyphenation patterns for 84 language(s) loaded.
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2014/09/29 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size11.clo))
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec.sty
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3packages/xparse/xparse.sty
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/expl3.sty
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/expl3-code.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3xdvipdfmx.def)))
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec-xetex.sty
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/tuenc.def))
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec.cfg)))No file 
sb2.aux.
[1] (./sb2.aux) )
Output written on sb2.pdf (1 page).
Transcript written on sb2.log.
$
Best Regards,

Antonio 

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Re: Thunderbird issue (OT).

2018-03-19 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 03/19/2018 08:21 AM, William wrote:
If I understand Samuel's response, this problem is unsolvable by us and 
by Thunderbird.  I've seen opinions elsewhere that this is basically 
verizon/yahoo not playing nice with Thunderbird.  (I wonder if other 
independent e-mail clients are also having trouble with verizon/yahoo.) 
I've also seen opinions elsewhere that Thunderbird is basically pointing 
the finger at verizon/yahoo rather than seriously trying to figure this 
out.


I would suggest opening a bug on Thunderbird at the Mozilla bugzilla 
including the part of your log that I've attached.  Thunderbird appears 
to be doing something wrong because it is declaring that the login 
succeeded before it got an OK from the server.  The server also appears 
to be doing something strange, but the Thunderbird side should be easier 
to deal with first.  If you do open a bug, please either CC me there or 
reply here with the bug number.
2018-03-16 18:42:43.456332 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: ImapThreadMainLoop 
entering [this=9565c000]
2018-03-16 18:42:43.457935 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: 
9565c000:imap.mail.yahoo.com:NA:ProcessCurrentURL: entering
2018-03-16 18:42:43.457960 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: 
9565c000:imap.mail.yahoo.com:NA:ProcessCurrentURL:imap://[e-mail address 
#1]%40yahoo%2e...@imap.mail.yahoo.com:993/select%3E/INBOX:  = currentUrl
2018-03-16 18:42:43.984062 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: ReadNextLine 
[stream=7e20b800 nb=173 needmore=0]
2018-03-16 18:42:43.984090 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: 
9565c000:imap.mail.yahoo.com:NA:CreateNewLineFromSocket: * OK [CAPABILITY 
IMAP4rev1 ID MOVE NAMESPACE XYMHIGHESTMODSEQ UIDPLUS LITERAL+ CHILDREN SASL-IR 
AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=XYMCOOKIEB64 AUTH=XOAUTH2 AUTH=OAUTHBEARER] IMAP4rev1 Hello
2018-03-16 18:42:44.015750 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: try to log in
2018-03-16 18:42:44.015777 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: IMAP auth: server 
caps 0x840007625, pref 0x1006, failed 0x0, avail caps 0x1004
2018-03-16 18:42:44.015798 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: (GSSAPI = 
0x100, CRAM = 0x2, NTLM = 0x10, MSN = 0x20, PLAIN = 0x1000,
2018-03-16 18:42:44.015806 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: trying auth method 
0x1000
2018-03-16 18:43:00.483631 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: got new password
2018-03-16 18:43:00.484379 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: IMAP: trying auth 
method 0x1000
2018-03-16 18:43:00.484400 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: PLAIN auth
2018-03-16 18:43:00.484412 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: 
9565c000:imap.mail.yahoo.com:NA:SendData: 1 authenticate PLAIN
2018-03-16 18:43:00.536396 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: ReadNextLine 
[stream=7e20b800 nb=4 needmore=0]
2018-03-16 18:43:00.536423 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: 
9565c000:imap.mail.yahoo.com:NA:CreateNewLineFromSocket: + 
2018-03-16 18:43:00.536438 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: 
9565c000:imap.mail.yahoo.com:NA:SendData: Logging suppressed for this command 
(it probably contained authentication information)
2018-03-16 18:43:00.624433 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: ReadNextLine 
[stream=7e20b800 nb=116 needmore=0]
2018-03-16 18:43:00.624466 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: 
9565c000:imap.mail.yahoo.com:NA:CreateNewLineFromSocket: + 
eyJzdGF0dXMiOiJpbnZhbGlkX2NyZWRlbnRpYWxzIiwic2NoZW1lIjoiYmFzaWMiLCJzY29wZSI6Imh0dHBzOi8vbWFpbC55YWhvby5jb20vIn0=
2018-03-16 18:43:00.624481 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: login succeeded
2018-03-16 18:43:00.624597 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: 
9565c000:imap.mail.yahoo.com:NA:SendData: 2 namespace
2018-03-16 18:43:04.720481 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: ReadNextLine 
[stream=7e20b800 nb=62 needmore=0]
2018-03-16 18:43:04.720527 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: 
9565c000:imap.mail.yahoo.com:NA:CreateNewLineFromSocket: 1 NO 
[AUTHENTICATIONFAILED] AUTHENTICATE Invalid credentials
2018-03-16 18:43:04.720570 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: 
9565c000:imap.mail.yahoo.com:NA:SendData: 3 ID ("name" "Thunderbird" "version" 
"52.5.2")
2018-03-16 18:43:04.781425 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: ReadNextLine 
[stream=7e20b800 nb=180 needmore=0]
2018-03-16 18:43:04.781465 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: 
9565c000:imap.mail.yahoo.com:NA:CreateNewLineFromSocket: * ID ("remote-host" 
"67.166.42.178" "vendor" "Yahoo! Inc." "support-url" "http://help.yahoo.com/"; 
"name" "Y!IMAP" "host" "sky300102.imap.mail.yahoo.com" "version" "1.1-SNAPSHOT")
2018-03-16 18:43:04.781497 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: ReadNextLine 
[stream=7e20b800 nb=19 needmore=0]
2018-03-16 18:43:04.781508 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: 
9565c000:imap.mail.yahoo.com:NA:CreateNewLineFromSocket: 3 OK ID completed
2018-03-16 18:43:04.782204 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: 
9565c000:imap.mail.yahoo.com:NA:SendData: 4 list "" "*"
2018-03-16 18:43:08.840184 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: ReadNextLine 
[stream=7e20b800 nb=59 needmore=0]
2018-03-16 18:43:08.840231 UTC - -1996499200[7fa17f2abce0]: 
9565c000:imap.mail.yahoo.com:NA:CreateNewLineFromSocket: 4 BAD [CLIENT

Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-19 Thread Néstor
You can actually use Google voice in another country as long as you have
access to the internet.

Sometimes if I am I another and I need to call someone in that country I
will go to a place that has WiFi and make the call like if i was in the US
and i call that country's phone number.

It worked for me in Japan, Panama, Philippines, Mexico, Peru

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018, 3:49 PM Patrick O'Callaghan 
wrote:

> On Sun, 2018-03-18 at 11:03 -0700, Mike Wright wrote:
> > On 03/18/2018 09:32 AM, fred roller wrote:
> > >  > Does Google Hangouts allow international free phone number calling?
> > >
> > > AFAIK it is just a private chat set up by email identifier so no phone.
> > > In essence then yes. The Google Voice option, if you can get it will do
> > > what I suspect you want; your account to a non-account call.
> >
> > I've been using Google Voice for years.  From the US all US and Canada
> > calls are free.  Other countries start at 1¢ (e.g. MX, BR, AU, FR) per
> > minute.  Even DPRK is only 55¢.
>
> That's fine, but as I said earlier, only available to users in the US.
> Google Voice had been around for quite some time now and has never
> expanded its service beyond the US (not just calling but unified phone
> numbers etc.), all of which I would have been interested in at one
> time.
>
> poc
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Re: sound problem

2018-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 00:54:33 +0100
Wolfgang Pfeiffer  wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 11:08:46 +0100
> François Patte  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > In ~/.config/pulse I have:
> > bd9a117e29a44dd4b335896e866a41d2-default-sink
> > bd9a117e29a44dd4b335896e866a41d2-default-source
> > 
> > Which are empty when I log-in (in that case the config is: "sortie
> > stéréo numérique (iec958) + entrée stéréo analogique" which does not
> > work, no sound)  
> 
> "sortie stéréo numérique (iec958) + entrée stéréo analogique" 
> 
> If you want me 
^
should say:

"If you want me understand what you write pls. try translating it to
English ... " 

My French is lousy. At best ... ;)

Plus: in my last posting I forgot to mention my hints were done on
F26.

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Re: sound problem

2018-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 11:08:46 +0100
François Patte  wrote:

> 
> In ~/.config/pulse I have:
> bd9a117e29a44dd4b335896e866a41d2-default-sink
> bd9a117e29a44dd4b335896e866a41d2-default-source
> 
> Which are empty when I log-in (in that case the config is: "sortie
> stéréo numérique (iec958) + entrée stéréo analogique" which does not
> work, no sound)

"sortie stéréo numérique (iec958) + entrée stéréo analogique" 

If you want me 

Not sure whether the following will help, but it might be worth a try:

If you have installed pavucontrol, maybe it:
--->
pavucontrol
<--

And while you do the following, play some sound file, to see what's 
happening:

Please note that some "Profile" might be seen as active in the
"Configuration" tab and not be working because you switched off (e.g.)
the device (TV, Stereo) connected to it. Also have a 
look at the "Playback" tab. Make sure (bottom page) to 
show "All Streams". Does the volume meter change while you
play sound? If it changes, and you don't hear anything, try changing 
the playback device with the clickable right-hand-side button (with 
something like "Built-in " on it) and change it to another
device, if possible. If you hear sound by now maybe try to switch off
the device that did not work while playing the audio (and after logging
in? .. )

Also, maybe see these:

>
gnome-control-center --> Sound 
<

--->
paprefs
<

Also try reloading your X after changes, if things don't work as
expected (might not work on wayland).
IIRC on gnome running on X11 reload works with , then exec "r".
But I'm not sure, I don't run gnome shell, just gnome apps ... :)

In awesome wm (hint, hint ... :) reload goes like  --r ...  

HTH - Good luck!
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Re: Where do I find this srpm?

2018-03-19 Thread ToddAndMargo

On 03/18/2018 07:19 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 03/19/18 10:12, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>> If I can figure out a way to do a screen shot tomorrow, I'll
>> send it to you
>
> OK
>
> http://solverbase.com/w/Lenovo_TAB_2_A10-70:_Taking_Screenshot
>
> You can email directly or upload to an image sharing site such as 
https://imgbb.com/

>
> What version of Android is your tablet running?


Okay, I think I am going to get the figure shaken at me
for the previous HTML, so here goes again with imgbb.
(Thank you for the site.  I love it!)

Hi Ed,

Love the screen shot!  Thank you!

I am sending to both the list and directly to you in case I get
the finger wagged at me for using HTML.

Lenovo A10-70F
Android 5.0.1
Kernel 3.10.61

When I connect the USB, the Popup on the tablet is
 Media device (MTP)
 Camera (PTP)
 Charge Only
 Built-in CD-ROM

The only one that activates is "Built-in CD-ROM", which gives
a single .exe file whose name I don't remember.

Pop up on the Android when connecting the SUB:
   https://ibb.co/k3zBsx

-T
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Re: Kernel installed in wrong location

2018-03-19 Thread CLOSE Dave
Ed Greshko wrote:

>> [root@machine ~]# ls /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b
>> 0-rescue 4.13.10-200.fc26.x86_64  4.13.9-200.fc26.x86_64
>> 4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.11-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64
>> 4.12.11-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.12-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.4-200.fc26.x86_64
>> 4.12.12-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.13-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.5-200.fc26.x86_64
>> 4.12.13-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.15-100.fc25.x86_64  4.14.6-200.fc26.x86_64
>> 4.12.14-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.15-200.fc26.x86_64  4.15.8-300.fc27.x86_64
>> 4.12.5-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.16-200.fc26.x86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
>> 4.12.8-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.16-202.fc26.x86_64
>> 4.12.9-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.4-200.fc26.x86_64
> 
> All of those directories are empty, yes?

Most, but not all:

> # ls /boot/77*/*
> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/0-rescue:
> initrd  linux

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.12.11-300.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.12.12-300.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.12.13-300.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.12.14-300.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.12.5-300.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.12.8-300.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.12.9-300.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.13.10-200.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.13.11-200.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.13.12-200.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.13.13-200.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.13.15-100.fc25.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.13.15-200.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.13.16-200.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.13.16-202.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.13.4-200.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.13.9-200.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.14.4-200.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.14.5-200.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.14.6-200.fc26.x86_64:

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.15.8-300.fc27.x86_64:
> initrd  linux

> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64:
> initrd  linux
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Re: Kernel installed in wrong location

2018-03-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/20/18 02:54, CLOSE Dave wrote:
> [root@machine ~]# ls /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b
> 0-rescue 4.13.10-200.fc26.x86_64  4.13.9-200.fc26.x86_64
> 4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.11-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64
> 4.12.11-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.12-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.4-200.fc26.x86_64
> 4.12.12-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.13-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.5-200.fc26.x86_64
> 4.12.13-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.15-100.fc25.x86_64  4.14.6-200.fc26.x86_64
> 4.12.14-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.15-200.fc26.x86_64  4.15.8-300.fc27.x86_64
> 4.12.5-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.16-200.fc26.x86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
> 4.12.8-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.16-202.fc26.x86_64
> 4.12.9-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.4-200.fc26.x86_64


All of those directories are empty, yes?


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Re: [LEARNING OUTCOME] Wi-Fi WPA Hacking Tool is Totally Useless on New Wireless Routers

2018-03-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-03-19 at 15:04 +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
wrote:
> I am sharing my learning outcomes.

You describe your experience with a different Linux distro, using some
hacking tool to which you give no reference. How is this related to
Fedora?

poc
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Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-03-18 at 11:03 -0700, Mike Wright wrote:
> On 03/18/2018 09:32 AM, fred roller wrote:
> >  > Does Google Hangouts allow international free phone number calling?
> > 
> > AFAIK it is just a private chat set up by email identifier so no phone.  
> > In essence then yes. The Google Voice option, if you can get it will do 
> > what I suspect you want; your account to a non-account call.
> 
> I've been using Google Voice for years.  From the US all US and Canada 
> calls are free.  Other countries start at 1¢ (e.g. MX, BR, AU, FR) per 
> minute.  Even DPRK is only 55¢.

That's fine, but as I said earlier, only available to users in the US.
Google Voice had been around for quite some time now and has never
expanded its service beyond the US (not just calling but unified phone
numbers etc.), all of which I would have been interested in at one
time.

poc
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Re: Kernel installed in wrong location

2018-03-19 Thread Stephen Morris

On 20/3/18 8:05 am, CLOSE Dave wrote:

Further information from another attempt a few minutes ago. Could the
broken pipe be the problem? What could cause that? /boot is at 52%.


I don't think the broken pipe is causing the issue, I'll need to check 
next time there's a new kernel, as when I run the same transaction as 
you have I get the broken pipe error as well, but all my kernels are 
still in /boot and /boot/"rescue directory".


regards,

Steve





# /usr/bin/dnf -y reinstall kernel*-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
Last metadata expiration check: 23:59:22 ago on Sun Mar 18 14:00:12 2018.
Dependencies resolved.

  Package   ArchVersion   RepositorySize

Reinstalling:
  kernelx86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27   updates   81 k
  kernel-core   x86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27   updates   23 M
  kernel-devel  x86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27   updates   12 M
  kernel-headersx86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27   updates  1.2 M
  kernel-modulesx86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27   updates   27 M
  kernel-modules-extra  x86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27   updates  2.2 M
Transaction Summary

Total download size: 65 M
Downloading Packages:
(1/6): kernel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64.rpm 13 MB/s |  81 kB 00:00
(2/6): kernel-headers-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64.rp  48 MB/s | 1.2 MB 00:00
(3/6): kernel-devel-4.15.8-300.fc27_4.15.9-300.  36 MB/s | 3.1 MB 00:00
(4/6): kernel-modules-extra-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86  50 MB/s | 2.2 MB 00:00
(5/6): kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64.rpm55 MB/s |  23 MB 00:00
(6/6): kernel-modules-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64.rp  50 MB/s |  27 MB 00:00
[DRPM] kernel-devel-4.15.8-300.fc27_4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64.drpm: done

Total   2.4 MB/s |  56 MB 00:23
Delta RPMs reduced 65.4 MB of updates to 56.4 MB (13.1% saved)
Running transaction check
Transaction check succeeded.
Running transaction test
Transaction test succeeded.
Running transaction
   Preparing:1/1
   Reinstalling : kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_641/12
   Running scriptlet: kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_641/12
   Reinstalling : kernel-modules-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 2/12
   Running scriptlet: kernel-modules-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 2/12
   Reinstalling : kernel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 3/12
   Reinstalling : kernel-modules-extra-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   4/12
   Running scriptlet: kernel-modules-extra-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   4/12
   Reinstalling : kernel-headers-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 5/12
   Reinstalling : kernel-devel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   6/12
   Running scriptlet: kernel-devel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   6/12
   Erasing  : kernel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 7/12
   Running scriptlet: kernel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 7/12
   Erasing  : kernel-headers-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 8/12
   Erasing  : kernel-devel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   9/12
   Erasing  : kernel-modules-extra-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64  10/12
   Running scriptlet: kernel-modules-extra-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64  10/12
   Erasing  : kernel-modules-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_6411/12
   Running scriptlet: kernel-modules-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_6411/12
   Running scriptlet: kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   12/12
   Erasing  : kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   12/12
   Running scriptlet: kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   12/12
cat: write error: Broken pipe
   Verifying: kernel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 1/12
   Verifying: kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_642/12
   Verifying: kernel-devel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   3/12
   Verifying: kernel-headers-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 4/12
   Verifying: kernel-modules-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 5/12
   Verifying: kernel-modules-extra-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   6/12
   Verifying: kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_647/12
   Verifying: kernel-devel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   8/12
   Verifying: kernel-headers-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 9/12
   Verifying: kernel-modules-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64

Re: sound problem

2018-03-19 Thread François Patte
Le 18/03/2018 à 23:27, stan a écrit :
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 11:33:36 +0100
> François Patte  wrote:
> 


Googleing a lot, I tried some configuration "by hand" and reach a state
that I cannot understand.

I used:  pacmd list-cards in order to identify my cards:

--->
2 card(s) available.
index: 0
name: 
driver: 
owner module: 6
properties:
alsa.card = "1"
alsa.card_name = "HDA NVidia"
 /forget it, I don't want to use it/

index: 1
name: 
driver: 
owner module: 7
properties:
alsa.card = "0"
alsa.card_name = "HDA Intel PCH"
alsa.long_card_name = "HDA Intel PCH at 0xf743 irq 35"


sinks:
alsa_output.pci-_00_1b.0.iec958-stereo/#0: Audio interne 
Stéréo
numérique (IEC958)
sources:
alsa_output.pci-_00_1b.0.iec958-stereo.monitor/#0: Monitor 
of
Audio interne Stéréo numérique (IEC958)
alsa_input.pci-_00_1b.0.analog-stereo/#1: Audio interne 
Stéréo
analogique
<-

So, the card name is "alsa_card.pci-_00_1b.0" or index 1.

I tried:

pacmd set-card-profile alsa_card.pci-_00_1b.0 output:analog-stereo

and it worked : the digital audio was replaced by the analogic audio and
sound is working.

I tried to perenise that :

echo 'set-card-profile alsa_card.pci-_00_1b.0 output:analog-stereo'
> ~fp/.config/pulse/default.pa

killed pulseaudio: pkill -f pulseaudio and restarted it:  pulseaudio --start

but: E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Échec lors du démarrage du démon.

reason:
mars 19 22:11:31 dipankar pulseaudio[17422]: *No card found by this name
or index*.
mars 19 22:11:31 dipankar pulseaudio[17422]: Échec lors de
l'initialisation du démon

lol!

Same result if I replace the card name by the index 1

Who can explain?

Thank you.


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Re: Where do I find this srpm?

2018-03-19 Thread Stephen Morris

On 19/3/18 12:54 pm, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/19/18 09:42, ToddAndMargo wrote:

Mine gave the same pop up.  I selected the default storage device.
I did not think of trying a music device.

I do not know if we are getting the same Pop-Up.  Mine read...

An MTP connection will be established to access the data on the connected device

   Deny  or Allow

Nothing about music v.s. storage


When I connect in my Galaxy J7 Prime phone, I get a popup from the usb 
device detector saying I can open it with a file manager. When I click 
on that entry it pops up dolphin which displays a message that I need to 
set the usb settings on the phone to allow mtp and the phone displays 
and allow connect message, the message was more voluminous than what you 
showed but that doesn't matter it is still the same. Once I clicked on 
allow dolphin displayed the content of the onboard memory and the 
sdcard, which when I browsed the directories I found lots of png and jpg 
files, but when I right-clicked on those and selected "Open with Image 
Viewer" to display them, but dolphin said it could not find any of them 
even though it was listing them, and with the error message there was 
also a popup (presumably from pulseaudio) saying that it was redirecting 
output to my Logitech headphones, with a push button to revert back to 
the original device (presumably), but the button did not have  enough 
text to specify which device audio output was being redirected from. The 
error message from dolphin occurred on every file I tried to browse and 
the "pulseaudio" popup occurred for every dolphin error message. I have 
lots of music files on the phone, but I can't find any of them in what 
dolphin is showing me.


regards,

Steve




I get a shot at it tomorrow and I will try and get back.



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Re: Kernel installed in wrong location

2018-03-19 Thread CLOSE Dave
Further information from another attempt a few minutes ago. Could the
broken pipe be the problem? What could cause that? /boot is at 52%.

> # /usr/bin/dnf -y reinstall kernel*-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
> Last metadata expiration check: 23:59:22 ago on Sun Mar 18 14:00:12 2018.
> Dependencies resolved.
> 
>  Package   ArchVersion   Repository
> Size
> 
> Reinstalling:
>  kernelx86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27   updates   81 
> k
>  kernel-core   x86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27   updates   23 
> M
>  kernel-devel  x86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27   updates   12 
> M
>  kernel-headersx86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27   updates  1.2 
> M
>  kernel-modulesx86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27   updates   27 
> M
>  kernel-modules-extra  x86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27   updates  2.2 
> M

> Transaction Summary
> 

> Total download size: 65 M
> Downloading Packages:
> (1/6): kernel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64.rpm 13 MB/s |  81 kB 00:00
> (2/6): kernel-headers-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64.rp  48 MB/s | 1.2 MB 00:00
> (3/6): kernel-devel-4.15.8-300.fc27_4.15.9-300.  36 MB/s | 3.1 MB 00:00
> (4/6): kernel-modules-extra-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86  50 MB/s | 2.2 MB 00:00
> (5/6): kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64.rpm55 MB/s |  23 MB 00:00
> (6/6): kernel-modules-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64.rp  50 MB/s |  27 MB 00:00
> [DRPM] kernel-devel-4.15.8-300.fc27_4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64.drpm: done
> 
> Total   2.4 MB/s |  56 MB 00:23
> Delta RPMs reduced 65.4 MB of updates to 56.4 MB (13.1% saved)
> Running transaction check
> Transaction check succeeded.
> Running transaction test
> Transaction test succeeded.
> Running transaction
>   Preparing:
> 1/1
>   Reinstalling : kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
> 1/12
>   Running scriptlet: kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
> 1/12
>   Reinstalling : kernel-modules-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 
> 2/12
>   Running scriptlet: kernel-modules-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 
> 2/12
>   Reinstalling : kernel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 
> 3/12
>   Reinstalling : kernel-modules-extra-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   
> 4/12
>   Running scriptlet: kernel-modules-extra-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   
> 4/12
>   Reinstalling : kernel-headers-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 
> 5/12
>   Reinstalling : kernel-devel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   
> 6/12
>   Running scriptlet: kernel-devel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   
> 6/12
>   Erasing  : kernel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 
> 7/12
>   Running scriptlet: kernel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 
> 7/12
>   Erasing  : kernel-headers-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 
> 8/12
>   Erasing  : kernel-devel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   
> 9/12
>   Erasing  : kernel-modules-extra-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64  
> 10/12
>   Running scriptlet: kernel-modules-extra-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64  
> 10/12
>   Erasing  : kernel-modules-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
> 11/12
>   Running scriptlet: kernel-modules-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
> 11/12
>   Running scriptlet: kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   
> 12/12
>   Erasing  : kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   
> 12/12
>   Running scriptlet: kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   
> 12/12
> cat: write error: Broken pipe
>   Verifying: kernel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 
> 1/12
>   Verifying: kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
> 2/12
>   Verifying: kernel-devel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   
> 3/12
>   Verifying: kernel-headers-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 
> 4/12
>   Verifying: kernel-modules-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 
> 5/12
>   Verifying: kernel-modules-extra-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   
> 6/12
>   Verifying: kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
> 7/12
>   Verifying: kernel-devel-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64   
> 8/12
>   Verifying: kernel-headers-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64 
> 9/12
>   Verifying: kernel-modules-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
> 10/12
>   Verifying: kernel-modules-extra-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64  
> 11/12
>   Verifying

Re: current docker instructions for installing on fedora up to date?

2018-03-19 Thread Veli-Pekka Kestilä

On 19.3.2018 21:12, Robert P. J. Day wrote:


   i realize there's been some refactoring of docker packages for
fedora, so before i get buried in this, are the docker instructions
for fedora here:

   https://docs.docker.com/install/linux/docker-ce/fedora/

up to date? they look reasonable, just want to verify before i dive
into this. thank you kindly.



I installed it with those instructions maybe a week ago and it has been 
working fine. Even found my old images from previous version. One note 
to take is that I only use the machine to build images and not running 
them otherwise so can't say about long running stuff or custom 
configurations which I don't have either.


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Re: include unicode chars in TeX/LaTeX documents

2018-03-19 Thread Andras Simon
2018-03-19 20:08 GMT+01:00, Antonio Olivares :
> Thanks for helping me.  I am close but I get error:

[...]

dnf install unifont-font

(as root) will solve this problem.
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Re: include unicode chars in TeX/LaTeX documents

2018-03-19 Thread Andras Simon
2018-03-19 19:07 GMT+01:00, François Patte
:
>
> Here is MWE:
>
> \documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{article}
>
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> \newfontfamily{\uni}{Unifont}
>
> \begin{document}
>
> {\uni%
> \symbol{"26BD}
> }
>
> \end{document}
>
> This suppose that you have the unifont.ttf installed on your machine.

Thanks! To the OP: you should

dnf install unifont-font

and then you can xelatex François' example.
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Re: Kernel installed in wrong location

2018-03-19 Thread CLOSE Dave
Further, here is an extract of /var/log/messages for the attempted
reinstall, surpressing the timestamp and dracut indicator.

> dracut-046-8.git20180105.fc27
> Executing: /usr/bin/dracut 
> /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64/initrd 
> 4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
> dracut module 'busybox' will not be installed, because command 'busybox' 
> could not be found!
> dracut module 'busybox' will not be installed, because command 'busybox' 
> could not be found!
> *** Including module: bash ***
> *** Including module: systemd ***
> *** Including module: systemd-initrd ***
> *** Including module: nss-softokn ***
> *** Including module: i18n ***
> *** Including module: network ***
> *** Including module: ifcfg ***
> *** Including module: drm ***
> *** Including module: plymouth ***
> *** Including module: dm ***
> Skipping udev rule: 64-device-mapper.rules
> Skipping udev rule: 60-persistent-storage-dm.rules
> Skipping udev rule: 55-dm.rules
> *** Including module: kernel-modules ***
> *** Including module: kernel-network-modules ***
> *** Including module: lvm ***
> Skipping udev rule: 64-device-mapper.rules
> Skipping udev rule: 56-lvm.rules
> Skipping udev rule: 60-persistent-storage-lvm.rules
> *** Including module: resume ***
> *** Including module: rootfs-block ***
> *** Including module: terminfo ***
> *** Including module: udev-rules ***
> Skipping udev rule: 40-redhat.rules
> Skipping udev rule: 50-firmware.rules
> Skipping udev rule: 50-udev.rules
> Skipping udev rule: 91-permissions.rules
> Skipping udev rule: 80-drivers-modprobe.rules
> *** Including module: biosdevname ***
> *** Including module: dracut-systemd ***
> *** Including module: usrmount ***
> *** Including module: base ***
> *** Including module: fs-lib ***
> *** Including module: shutdown ***
> *** Including modules done ***
> *** Installing kernel module dependencies ***
> *** Installing kernel module dependencies done ***
> *** Resolving executable dependencies ***
> *** Resolving executable dependencies done***
> *** Hardlinking files ***
> *** Hardlinking files done ***
> *** Stripping files ***
> *** Stripping files done ***
> *** Generating early-microcode cpio image ***
> *** Constructing GenuineIntel.bin 
> *** Store current command line parameters ***
> *** Creating image file 
> '/boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64/initrd' ***
> *** Creating initramfs image file 
> '/boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b/4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64/initrd' done 
> ***
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Re: sound problem

2018-03-19 Thread Stephen Morris

On 19/3/18 9:55 am, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/19/18 06:44, Ed Greshko wrote:

FWIW, I have a ~/.pulse directory.   Within it there is a file called
741a5ee204e44a41982409c7e07d04de-default-sink which contains


Oh, strangely?, I found that on one system the directory was ~/.pulse while 
another
has a set of files in ~/.config/pulse

I suppose the difference may be that the ~/.pulse system has been upgraded since
about F22 while the other system is a fresh F27 install


If it is of any interest, my F27 system is an upgrade from F26 that was 
a fresh install and it doesn't have a ~/.pulse directory either, it has 
the ~/.config/pulse directory, which like on Ed's machine, has a 
default-sink file.


With my Logitech G33 wireless headphones, pulseaudio gives me the option 
of digital or analogue sound output, and I've found that compared to the 
analog sound output the digital output is hopeless. With digital output 
I have to turn the volume output in pulseaudio up to 150% to be able to 
properly hear the audio, but that introduces "static" artifacts into the 
audio, the onscreen volume level display when using the volume control 
on the headphones doesn't match the headphones, in that it reaches 100% 
before the headphones volume control and increasing the volume on the 
headphones has no impact on the output volume level. With analog output 
these processes all work "properly" and are comparable with the same 
functions under windows.



regards,

Steve




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Re: Kernel installed in wrong location

2018-03-19 Thread CLOSE Dave
Rick Stevens wrote:

>> Fedora 27 x86_64. When DNF installs a new kernel, it isn't going into
>> the right place (/boot) and is not detected by GRUB. Why not?

> Sure looks like the scriptlet didn't run. I think you should get a
> report about the initramfs image and the system map having different
> modes and that they're ghost files (not part of the package payload as
> they are created by the post-install scriptlet). I get:
> 
> [root@golem4 boot]# rpm -V kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
> .M...  g /boot/System.map-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
> .M...  g /boot/initramfs-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64.img
> 
> (the "M" means different modes and the "g" means "ghost file"). Check
> your dnf logs to verify that something didn't go wrong during the
> install process.

My /etc/dnf/dnf.conf contains only the default:

> [main]
> gpgcheck=1
> installonly_limit=3
> clean_requirements_on_remove=true

The portion of /var/log/dnf.log for an attempted reinstall shows:

> 2018-03-19T18:33:55Z INFO Dependencies resolved.
> 2018-03-19T18:33:55Z INFO 
> 
>  PackageArch  Version  Repository  
> Size
> 
> Reinstalling:
>  kernel-corex86_644.15.9-300.fc27  updates 23 
> M
> 
> Transaction Summary
> 
> 
> 2018-03-19T18:33:55Z INFO Total download size: 23 M
> 2018-03-19T18:33:55Z INFO Downloading Packages:
> 2018-03-19T18:33:56Z SUBDEBUG Call: RPMPayload._end_cb: ( object at 0x7f5df909e6d8>, 0, None), {}
> 2018-03-19T18:33:56Z INFO 
> 
> 2018-03-19T18:33:56Z INFO Total66 
> MB/s |  23 MB 00:00
> 2018-03-19T18:33:56Z INFO Running transaction check
> 2018-03-19T18:33:59Z INFO Transaction check succeeded.
> 2018-03-19T18:33:59Z INFO Running transaction test
> 2018-03-19T18:34:13Z INFO Transaction test succeeded.
> 2018-03-19T18:34:13Z DDEBUG timer: transaction test: 14222 ms
> 2018-03-19T18:34:13Z INFO Running transaction
> 2018-03-19T18:34:19Z DDEBUG RPM transaction start.
> 2018-03-19T18:35:17Z DDEBUG RPM transaction over.
> 2018-03-19T18:35:33Z DDEBUG timer: verify transaction: 16178 ms
> 2018-03-19T18:35:33Z DDEBUG timer: transaction: 79880 ms
> 2018-03-19T18:35:33Z DEBUG Completion plugin: Generating completion cache...
> 2018-03-19T18:35:33Z INFO
> Reinstalled:
>   kernel-core.x86_64 4.15.9-300.fc27
> 
> 2018-03-19T18:35:33Z INFO Complete!
> 2018-03-19T18:35:33Z DDEBUG Cleaning up.
> 2018-03-19T18:35:33Z DDEBUG 
> /var/cache/dnf/updates-7dab57dbb768f030/packages/kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64.rpm
>  removed

I don't see anything strange about /boot/grub2/grub.cfg or
/etc/default/grub (which is identical to other local machines that are
working as expected). What should I be looking for to see why the kernel
is only being installed in the rescue directory?
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Re: Kernel installed in wrong location

2018-03-19 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 12:54 PM, CLOSE Dave 
wrote:

> Fedora 27 x86_64. When DNF installs a new kernel, it isn't going into
> the right place (/boot)


Just a wild-ass guess here, but how much free space do you have in the
partition that contains /boot?

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Re: Kernel installed in wrong location

2018-03-19 Thread Stephen Morris

On 20/3/18 5:54 am, CLOSE Dave wrote:

Fedora 27 x86_64. When DNF installs a new kernel, it isn't going into
the right place (/boot) and is not detected by GRUB. Why not?

For example, after installing the most recent new kernel, I see this.

[root@machine ~]# ls /boot
7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b
config-4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64
efi
extlinux
grub2
initramfs-0-rescue-7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b.img
initramfs-4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64.img
initrd-plymouth.img
loader
lost+found
System.map-4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64
vmlinuz-0-rescue-7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b
vmlinuz-4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64

[root@machine ~]# ls /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b
0-rescue 4.13.10-200.fc26.x86_64  4.13.9-200.fc26.x86_64
4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.11-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64
4.12.11-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.12-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.4-200.fc26.x86_64
4.12.12-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.13-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.5-200.fc26.x86_64
4.12.13-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.15-100.fc25.x86_64  4.14.6-200.fc26.x86_64
4.12.14-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.15-200.fc26.x86_64  4.15.8-300.fc27.x86_64
4.12.5-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.16-200.fc26.x86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
4.12.8-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.16-202.fc26.x86_64
4.12.9-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.4-200.fc26.x86_64

But RPM thinks the new kernel was installed correctly!

[root@machine ~]# rpm -V kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27
  (no output)


I have installed kernels 4.15.9-300, 4.15.6-300 and 4.15.4-300, all of 
which were installed correctly into /boot by dnf and like you have 
indicated all 3 are also replicated in the long named directory that 
matches the rescue kernel name because of the grub setting to create 
rescue entries. From your listing you seem to have changed dnf's default 
of only keeping 3 kernels, do you have a setting in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf 
that might be causing dnf to only write kernels to the rescue location?



regards,

Steve

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Re: Kernel installed in wrong location

2018-03-19 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/19/2018 11:54 AM, CLOSE Dave wrote:
> Fedora 27 x86_64. When DNF installs a new kernel, it isn't going into
> the right place (/boot) and is not detected by GRUB. Why not?
> 
> For example, after installing the most recent new kernel, I see this.
> 
> [root@machine ~]# ls /boot
> 7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b
> config-4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64
> efi
> extlinux
> grub2
> initramfs-0-rescue-7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b.img
> initramfs-4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64.img
> initrd-plymouth.img
> loader
> lost+found
> System.map-4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64
> vmlinuz-0-rescue-7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b
> vmlinuz-4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64
> 
> [root@machine ~]# ls /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b
> 0-rescue 4.13.10-200.fc26.x86_64  4.13.9-200.fc26.x86_64
> 4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.11-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64
> 4.12.11-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.12-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.4-200.fc26.x86_64
> 4.12.12-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.13-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.5-200.fc26.x86_64
> 4.12.13-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.15-100.fc25.x86_64  4.14.6-200.fc26.x86_64
> 4.12.14-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.15-200.fc26.x86_64  4.15.8-300.fc27.x86_64
> 4.12.5-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.16-200.fc26.x86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
> 4.12.8-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.16-202.fc26.x86_64
> 4.12.9-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.4-200.fc26.x86_64
> 
> But RPM thinks the new kernel was installed correctly!
> 
> [root@machine ~]# rpm -V kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27

Sure looks like the scriptlet didn't run. I think you should get a
report about the initramfs image and the system map having different
modes and that they're ghost files (not part of the package payload as
they are created by the post-install scriptlet). I get:

[root@golem4 boot]# rpm -V kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
.M...  g /boot/System.map-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
.M...  g /boot/initramfs-4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64.img

(the "M" means different modes and the "g" means "ghost file"). Check
your dnf logs to verify that something didn't go wrong during the
install process.
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current docker instructions for installing on fedora up to date?

2018-03-19 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  i realize there's been some refactoring of docker packages for
fedora, so before i get buried in this, are the docker instructions
for fedora here:

  https://docs.docker.com/install/linux/docker-ce/fedora/

up to date? they look reasonable, just want to verify before i dive
into this. thank you kindly.

rday
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Re: include unicode chars in TeX/LaTeX documents

2018-03-19 Thread Antonio Olivares
 

On Monday, March 19, 2018, 1:08:26 PM CDT, François Patte 
 wrote:  
 
 Le 19/03/2018 à 17:01, Antonio Olivares a écrit :
> On Monday, March 19, 2018, 10:04:26 AM CDT, François Patte
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Le 19/03/2018 à 15:12, Antonio Olivares a écrit :
> 
>> Dear fellow fedora users,
>>
>> In including a soccer ball character in Unicode, I have found
>>
>> https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/26bd/index.htm
>>
>> And it works.  I try to include in latex document and the character does
>> not show up.  I have tried different variations
>> after \documentclass{article}
>> \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
>>
>> And none seem to work.  Is there an easy way to include Unicode chars in
>> latex.
> 
> 
> use xelatex
> 
> 
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> /***/
> 
> How do I invoke it? 
> I have texlive 2017 full scheme installed.  I just use old
> latex+dvips+ps2pdf to create documents. 
> 

Here is MWE:

\documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{article}

\usepackage{fontspec}
\newfontfamily{\uni}{Unifont}

\begin{document}

{\uni%
\symbol{"26BD}
}

\end{document}

This suppose that you have the unifont.ttf installed on your machine.

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/**/ 
Thanks for helping me.  I am close but I get error:
Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
<*> ...=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input Unifont
  
Transcript written on mfput.log.
grep: Unifont.log: No such file or directory
mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input 
Unifont' failed to make Unifont.tfm.


!
! fontspec error: "font-not-found"
! 
! The font "Unifont" cannot be found.
! 
! See the fontspec documentation for further information.
! 
! For immediate help type H .
!...  
  
l.4 \newfontfamily{\uni}{Unifont}
     
?kpathsea: Running mktextfm Unifont
/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/web2c/mktexnam: Could not map source 
abbreviation U for Unifont.
/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/web2c/mktexnam: Need to update 
/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/fonts/map/fontname/special.map?
mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; 
input Unifont
This is METAFONT, Version 2.7182818 (TeX Live 2017) (preloaded base=mf)


kpathsea: Running mktexmf Unifont
! I can't find file `Unifont'.
<*> ...=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input Unifont
  
Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
<*> ...=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input Unifont
  
Transcript written on mfput.log.
grep: Unifont.log: No such file or directory
mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input 
Unifont' failed to make Unifont.tfm.



Best Regards,

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Kernel installed in wrong location

2018-03-19 Thread CLOSE Dave
Fedora 27 x86_64. When DNF installs a new kernel, it isn't going into
the right place (/boot) and is not detected by GRUB. Why not?

For example, after installing the most recent new kernel, I see this.

[root@machine ~]# ls /boot
7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b
config-4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64
efi
extlinux
grub2
initramfs-0-rescue-7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b.img
initramfs-4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64.img
initrd-plymouth.img
loader
lost+found
System.map-4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64
vmlinuz-0-rescue-7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b
vmlinuz-4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64

[root@machine ~]# ls /boot/7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5962b
0-rescue 4.13.10-200.fc26.x86_64  4.13.9-200.fc26.x86_64
4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.11-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.11-300.fc27.x86_64
4.12.11-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.12-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.4-200.fc26.x86_64
4.12.12-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.13-200.fc26.x86_64  4.14.5-200.fc26.x86_64
4.12.13-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.15-100.fc25.x86_64  4.14.6-200.fc26.x86_64
4.12.14-300.fc26.x86_64  4.13.15-200.fc26.x86_64  4.15.8-300.fc27.x86_64
4.12.5-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.16-200.fc26.x86_64  4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
4.12.8-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.16-202.fc26.x86_64
4.12.9-300.fc26.x86_64   4.13.4-200.fc26.x86_64

But RPM thinks the new kernel was installed correctly!

[root@machine ~]# rpm -V kernel-core-4.15.9-300.fc27
 (no output)
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Re: include unicode chars in TeX/LaTeX documents

2018-03-19 Thread François Patte
Le 19/03/2018 à 17:01, Antonio Olivares a écrit :
> On Monday, March 19, 2018, 10:04:26 AM CDT, François Patte
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Le 19/03/2018 à 15:12, Antonio Olivares a écrit :
> 
>> Dear fellow fedora users,
>>
>> In including a soccer ball character in Unicode, I have found
>>
>> https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/26bd/index.htm
>>
>> And it works.  I try to include in latex document and the character does
>> not show up.  I have tried different variations
>> after \documentclass{article}
>> \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
>>
>> And none seem to work.  Is there an easy way to include Unicode chars in
>> latex.
> 
> 
> use xelatex
> 
> 
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> How do I invoke it? 
> I have texlive 2017 full scheme installed.  I just use old
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> 

Here is MWE:

\documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{article}

\usepackage{fontspec}
\newfontfamily{\uni}{Unifont}

\begin{document}

{\uni%
\symbol{"26BD}
}

\end{document}

This suppose that you have the unifont.ttf installed on your machine.

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Re: Thunderbird issue (OT). [CLOSED]

2018-03-19 Thread Tim Evans

On 03/19/2018 01:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 03/19/2018 08:21 AM, William wrote:


I take Joe's comment to be sarcastic.  I think if I were to send 
anything to the verizon/yahoo postmaster (postmas...@yahoo.com?), it 
would either bounce or get dumped into their "bit bucket".


Not at all.  The postmaster address is where you're supposed to send 
reports on issues like this.  If Yahoo is ignoring them, that's their 
fault, not yours.


https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc822.txt


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Re: Thunderbird issue (OT). [CLOSED]

2018-03-19 Thread Joe Zeff

On 03/19/2018 08:21 AM, William wrote:


I take Joe's comment to be sarcastic.  I think if I were to send 
anything to the verizon/yahoo postmaster (postmas...@yahoo.com?), it 
would either bounce or get dumped into their "bit bucket".


Not at all.  The postmaster address is where you're supposed to send 
reports on issues like this.  If Yahoo is ignoring them, that's their 
fault, not yours.

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Re: include unicode chars in TeX/LaTeX documents

2018-03-19 Thread Antonio Olivares
 

On Monday, March 19, 2018, 12:18:11 PM CDT, Antonio Olivares 
 wrote:  
 
  

On Monday, March 19, 2018, 12:05:06 PM CDT, Andras Simon  
wrote:  
 
 2018-03-19 17:01 GMT+01:00, Antonio Olivares :
>    On Monday, March 19, 2018, 10:04:26 AM CDT, François Patte
>  wrote:
>
>  Le 19/03/2018 à 15:12, Antonio Olivares a écrit :
>> Dear fellow fedora users,
>>
>> In including a soccer ball character in Unicode, I have found
>>
>> https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/26bd/index.htm
>>
>> And it works.  I try to include in latex document and the character does
>> not show up.  I have tried different variations
>> after \documentclass{article}
>> \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
>>
>> And none seem to work.  Is there an easy way to include Unicode chars in
>> latex.
>
> use xelatex
>
[...]
>
> How do I invoke it?  I have texlive 2017 full scheme installed.  I just use
> old latex+dvips+ps2pdf to create documents.

Invoking it is not the problem (just say 'xelatex yourtexfile.tex').
But I'd be surprised if this solved your problem. First, xelatex is
not exactly tex, so you'll probably have to change a few things at
least in the preamble of your document. Second, you need a font with
the soccerball character in it. If I had this problem, I'd use google.

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I have an input file
$ cat test-sb.tex 
\documentclass{article}
%\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
%\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc}
\pagestyle{empty}

\begin{document}

\textSoccerBall â½

%\char"\u26bd"  %U+26BD
% ð
%â½
\end{document}

and I process it with 
$ xelatex test-sb,tex 
This is XeTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-0.8 (TeX Live 2017) (preloaded 
format=xelatex)
 restricted \write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
(./test-sb.tex
LaTeX2e <2017-04-15>
Babel <3.16> and hyphenation patterns for 84 language(s) loaded.
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2014/09/29 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty

Package inputenc Warning: inputenc package ignored with utf8 based engines.

) (./test-sb.aux)
! Undefined control sequence.l.9 \textSoccerBall
    â½
? ^[[?64;1;2;6;9;15;18;21;22c
Type  to proceed, S to scroll future error messages,
R to run without stopping, Q to run quietly,
I to insert something, E to edit your file,
1 or ... or 9 to ignore the next 1 to 9 tokens of input,
H for help, X to quit.
? 
[1] (./test-sb.aux) )
Output written on test-sb.pdf (1 page).
Transcript written on test-sb.log.
$ xpdf test-sb.pdf &

/**/
above command did not show anything in pdf.  I saw the macro at 
http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/CTAN/macros/xetex/latex/xecjk/xunicode-symbols.pdf
in page 42 of above document.  Thank you for helping.
Best Regards,


Antonio


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Re: include unicode chars in TeX/LaTeX documents

2018-03-19 Thread Antonio Olivares
 

On Monday, March 19, 2018, 12:05:06 PM CDT, Andras Simon  
wrote:  
 
 2018-03-19 17:01 GMT+01:00, Antonio Olivares :
>    On Monday, March 19, 2018, 10:04:26 AM CDT, François Patte
>  wrote:
>
>  Le 19/03/2018 à 15:12, Antonio Olivares a écrit :
>> Dear fellow fedora users,
>>
>> In including a soccer ball character in Unicode, I have found
>>
>> https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/26bd/index.htm
>>
>> And it works.  I try to include in latex document and the character does
>> not show up.  I have tried different variations
>> after \documentclass{article}
>> \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
>>
>> And none seem to work.  Is there an easy way to include Unicode chars in
>> latex.
>
> use xelatex
>
[...]
>
> How do I invoke it?  I have texlive 2017 full scheme installed.  I just use
> old latex+dvips+ps2pdf to create documents.

Invoking it is not the problem (just say 'xelatex yourtexfile.tex').
But I'd be surprised if this solved your problem. First, xelatex is
not exactly tex, so you'll probably have to change a few things at
least in the preamble of your document. Second, you need a font with
the soccerball character in it. If I had this problem, I'd use google.

Andras
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I have an input file
$ cat test-sb.tex 
\documentclass{article}
%\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
%\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc}
\pagestyle{empty}

\begin{document}

\textSoccerBall â½

%\char"\u26bd"  %U+26BD
% ð
%â½
\end{document}

and I process it with 
$ xelatex test-sb,tex 
This is XeTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-0.8 (TeX Live 2017) (preloaded 
format=xelatex)
 restricted \write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
(./test-sb.tex
LaTeX2e <2017-04-15>
Babel <3.16> and hyphenation patterns for 84 language(s) loaded.
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2014/09/29 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty

Package inputenc Warning: inputenc package ignored with utf8 based engines.

) (./test-sb.aux)
! Undefined control sequence.l.9 \textSoccerBall
    â½
? ^[[?64;1;2;6;9;15;18;21;22c
Type  to proceed, S to scroll future error messages,
R to run without stopping, Q to run quietly,
I to insert something, E to edit your file,
1 or ... or 9 to ignore the next 1 to 9 tokens of input,
H for help, X to quit.
? 
[1] (./test-sb.aux) )
Output written on test-sb.pdf (1 page).
Transcript written on test-sb.log.
$ xpdf test-sb.pdf &


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Re: include unicode chars in TeX/LaTeX documents

2018-03-19 Thread Andras Simon
2018-03-19 17:01 GMT+01:00, Antonio Olivares :
>On Monday, March 19, 2018, 10:04:26 AM CDT, François Patte
>  wrote:
>
>  Le 19/03/2018 à 15:12, Antonio Olivares a écrit :
>> Dear fellow fedora users,
>>
>> In including a soccer ball character in Unicode, I have found
>>
>> https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/26bd/index.htm
>>
>> And it works.  I try to include in latex document and the character does
>> not show up.  I have tried different variations
>> after \documentclass{article}
>> \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
>>
>> And none seem to work.  Is there an easy way to include Unicode chars in
>> latex.
>
> use xelatex
>
[...]
>
> How do I invoke it?  I have texlive 2017 full scheme installed.  I just use
> old latex+dvips+ps2pdf to create documents.

Invoking it is not the problem (just say 'xelatex yourtexfile.tex').
But I'd be surprised if this solved your problem. First, xelatex is
not exactly tex, so you'll probably have to change a few things at
least in the preamble of your document. Second, you need a font with
the soccerball character in it. If I had this problem, I'd use google.

Andras
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Re: include unicode chars in TeX/LaTeX documents

2018-03-19 Thread Antonio Olivares
   On Monday, March 19, 2018, 10:04:26 AM CDT, François Patte 
 wrote:  
 
 Le 19/03/2018 à 15:12, Antonio Olivares a écrit :
> Dear fellow fedora users,
> 
> In including a soccer ball character in Unicode, I have found
> 
> https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/26bd/index.htm
> 
> And it works.  I try to include in latex document and the character does
> not show up.  I have tried different variations
> after \documentclass{article}
> \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
> 
> And none seem to work.  Is there an easy way to include Unicode chars in
> latex.

use xelatex


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How do I invoke it?  I have texlive 2017 full scheme installed.  I just use old 
latex+dvips+ps2pdf to create documents.  
Best Regards,

Antonio 

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Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

2018-03-19 Thread William
If I understand Samuel's most recent response, this problem is 
unsolvable by us and by Thunderbird.


I'm closing this.  I've seen posts to closed and solved issues before, 
so if anyone has something helpful, go ahead and post it, or start a new 
thread.  I'll be checking Fedora HYPERKITTY almost every day.  I'll 
eventually see your post.


thanks,
Bill.
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Re: Thunderbird issue (OT). [CLOSED]

2018-03-19 Thread William
If I understand Samuel's response, this problem is unsolvable by us and 
by Thunderbird.  I've seen opinions elsewhere that this is basically 
verizon/yahoo not playing nice with Thunderbird.  (I wonder if other 
independent e-mail clients are also having trouble with verizon/yahoo.) 
I've also seen opinions elsewhere that Thunderbird is basically pointing 
the finger at verizon/yahoo rather than seriously trying to figure this out.


I take Joe's comment to be sarcastic.  I think if I were to send 
anything to the verizon/yahoo postmaster (postmas...@yahoo.com?), it 
would either bounce or get dumped into their "bit bucket".


I'm closing this.  I've seen posts to closed and solved issues before, 
so if anyone has something helpful, go ahead and post it, or start a new 
thread.  I'll be checking Fedora HYPERKITTY almost every day.  I'll 
eventually see your post.


thanks,
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Restart Xorg server and Noveau driver

2018-03-19 Thread Javier Perez
Hi.

Xorg froze while playing a game with wine. Only the mouse worked (not even
the keyboard). I had to hard reboot.

Checking out the logs (journalctl) I saw  repetitive nouveau errors.
(sorry, not at home, else I´d post them).

Other times I have been able to ssh into my machine and everything else is
working. I did not try this time (my secondary machine is down for the
moment).

My question is: How can I restart the Xorg server and/or the nouveau
driver?
If I could ssh into the system, I think I could just restart both and not
have to reboot the whole thing. It is more annoying that anything else
because the machine boots fast, but still I think it should not be
necessary.

Just polishing my skills.

Thanks

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Re: include unicode chars in TeX/LaTeX documents

2018-03-19 Thread François Patte
Le 19/03/2018 à 15:12, Antonio Olivares a écrit :
> Dear fellow fedora users,
> 
> In including a soccer ball character in Unicode, I have found
> 
> https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/26bd/index.htm
> 
> And it works.  I try to include in latex document and the character does
> not show up.  I have tried different variations
> after \documentclass{article}
> \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
> 
> And none seem to work.  Is there an easy way to include Unicode chars in
> latex.

use xelatex


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include unicode chars in TeX/LaTeX documents

2018-03-19 Thread Antonio Olivares
Dear fellow fedora users,

In including a soccer ball character in Unicode, I have found 

https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/26bd/index.htm

And it works.  I try to include in latex document and the character does not 
show up.  I have tried different variations 
after \documentclass{article}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}

And none seem to work.  Is there an easy way to include Unicode chars in latex.

Best Regards,


Antonio

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Re: Troubleshooting random hangs

2018-03-19 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Jorge,

I didn't see your responses until today!  I guess I got some clarity from our
bugzilla discussions.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 09:43:04AM +, Jorge Martínez López wrote:
> I did some research and found the following kernel bug:
> 
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196683
> 
> Fedora has CONFIG_RCU_NOCB_CPU=y in the 4.15.8 kernel configuration so I
> added "rcu_nocbs=0-7" to the boot parameters and it has been running stable
> for a while. I have also added "nopti" as well as there is some anecdotal
> evidence it improves stability but I'm not sure about that.

I think my tracebacks are very different.  That said, it also seems to me I'm
having freezes due to several unrelated reasons, and AMDGPU is probably one
among many.

> There is also some discussions in the bug page about old PSUs not providing
> good enough low voltage, AMD is recommending running a newer PSU
> (post-Haswell) but for the time being the boot config is working for me.

This is an interesting point, but very difficult to test :-|.

I haven't been able to debug my issues successfully as nothing useful really
shows up in the journal.  I was hoping someone could suggest a way so that I
could get more information to file a more specific bug report.

Any thoughts anyone?

TIA,

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Re: system-module-load fails to load but.... nevertheless loads!

2018-03-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/19/18 17:00, François Patte wrote:
> That was a good idea: yes sometimes I update my machine before stopping
> it. Yesterday,  as there were a new kernel,  I updated the system and
> waited until the whole process finished (using top to watch this update
> process) and today, in the boot logs, I get:
>
> mars 19 09:17:30 dipankar systemd-modules-load[226]: Failed to find
> module 'vboxdrv'
> mars 19 09:17:30 dipankar systemd-modules-load[226]: Failed to find
> module 'vboxnetflt'
> mars 19 09:17:30 dipankar systemd-modules-load[226]: Failed to find
> module 'vboxnetadp'
> mars 19 09:17:30 dipankar systemd-modules-load[226]: Failed to find
> module 'vboxpci'
> mars 19 09:17:32 dipankar systemd-modules-load[812]: Inserted module
> 'vboxdrv'
> mars 19 09:17:32 dipankar systemd-modules-load[812]: Inserted module
> 'vboxnetflt'
> mars 19 09:17:32 dipankar systemd-modules-load[812]: Inserted module
> 'vboxnetadp'
> mars 19 09:17:32 dipankar systemd-modules-load[812]: Inserted module
> 'vboxpci'
> mars 19 09:17:32 dipankar audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0
> auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0
> msg='unit=systemd-modules-load comm="systemd"
> exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
>
> Only 2 seconds between the time modules are not found and the time these
> modules are inserted...
>
> Strange!


Too bad the log isn't very detailed.

It sounds as if systemd-modules-load is looking first in one place for the 
modules
and not finding them.  Then, moving on to a second location and finding them.  
What
are the contents of /etc/modules-load.d/*.conf and 
/usr/lib/modules-load.d/*.conf  ?


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Re: system-module-load fails to load but.... nevertheless loads!

2018-03-19 Thread François Patte
Le 18/03/2018 à 14:44, Ed Greshko a écrit :
> On 03/18/18 21:29, François Patte wrote:
>> Le 18/03/2018 à 13:31, Ed Greshko a écrit :
>>> On 03/18/18 19:38, François Patte wrote
>>
> 
> Are you rebooting due to a kernel update?  And, do you have akmod-VirtualBox 
> installed?
> 
> If the above it true, then you're rebooting too soon after the update process 
> and the
> akmod process hasn't finished building the kernel modules.  So, on reboot the 
> module
> load will initially fail.  Then akmod will build the modules and load them.

That was a good idea: yes sometimes I update my machine before stopping
it. Yesterday,  as there were a new kernel,  I updated the system and
waited until the whole process finished (using top to watch this update
process) and today, in the boot logs, I get:

mars 19 09:17:30 dipankar systemd-modules-load[226]: Failed to find
module 'vboxdrv'
mars 19 09:17:30 dipankar systemd-modules-load[226]: Failed to find
module 'vboxnetflt'
mars 19 09:17:30 dipankar systemd-modules-load[226]: Failed to find
module 'vboxnetadp'
mars 19 09:17:30 dipankar systemd-modules-load[226]: Failed to find
module 'vboxpci'
mars 19 09:17:32 dipankar systemd-modules-load[812]: Inserted module
'vboxdrv'
mars 19 09:17:32 dipankar systemd-modules-load[812]: Inserted module
'vboxnetflt'
mars 19 09:17:32 dipankar systemd-modules-load[812]: Inserted module
'vboxnetadp'
mars 19 09:17:32 dipankar systemd-modules-load[812]: Inserted module
'vboxpci'
mars 19 09:17:32 dipankar audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0
msg='unit=systemd-modules-load comm="systemd"
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'

Only 2 seconds between the time modules are not found and the time these
modules are inserted...

Strange!

> 
> Do you have a /var/cache/akmods/akmods.log?  If so, does it have entries at 
> the times
> noted in your logs?

modules were successfully built and installed yesterday evening:

2018/03/18 23:03:41 akmods: Building and installing VirtualBox-kmod
2018/03/18 23:03:41 akmods: Building RPM using the command
'/sbin/akmodsbuild --target x86_64 --kernels 4.15.9-300.fc27.x86_64
/usr/src/akmods/VirtualBox-kmod.latest'
2018/03/18 23:04:06 akmods: Installing newly built rpms
2018/03/18 23:04:06 akmods: DNF detected
2018/03/18 23:04:14 akmods: Successful.


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[LEARNING OUTCOME] Wi-Fi WPA Hacking Tool is Totally Useless on New Wireless Routers

2018-03-19 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Hi,

I am sharing my learning outcomes.

Recently I downloaded Kali Linux 64-bit Version 2018.1 and ran it on
my HP laptop with the integrated Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8260
Wireless Network Card.

I wanted to test if I could hack the Wi-Fi WPA password on Ruckus R700
Access Point (AP) and the Aztech DSL8900GR(AC) Wireless Router. So I
started using the Reaver WPA cracking tool.

I understand that the Reaver tool works because there is a bug with
Wi-Fi Protected Setup (WPS).

I have no luck with Reaver on the Ruckus R700 Access Point. After
running Reaver, I found out that WPS is permanently disabled on the
Ruckus R700 AP with no option to turn it back on at all. Hence It is
not possible to hack the WPA password on Ruckus R700 AP.

Understanding that I couldn't do anything further with Ruckus R700 AP,
I proceeded to test Reaver on the Aztech DSL8900GR(AC) wireless
router. In this case, I also found out that WPS is disabled by default
on the Aztech wireless router. Reaver will not be useful at all if WPS
is disabled. But there is an option to enable WPS. So I enabled WPS in
the Aztech wireless router configuration page. And continued testing
with Reaver. But because Aztech wireless router has the rate limiting
security feature, brute force password attacks will be very slow and
probably take forever. The rate limiting security feature on the
Aztech wireless router is meant to slow you down when you are brute
forcing the WPS pin.

So here is my conclusion: Reaver Wi-Fi WPA hacking tool is totally
useless on new wireless routers which have the WPS disabled or have
implemented a fix for the WPS bug. Are there any other WPA cracking
tools which I can use in my educational learning journey? Please
advise.

Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Singapore
13 March 2018 Tuesday 4:28 PM Singapore Time

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