Re: repositories very out-of-date for Thunderbird version?

2019-09-16 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 9/16/19 7:08 PM, home user wrote:
I have version 60.7.0; the person implied that the current version is 
68.  That's 8 versions out-of-date.  I do a "dnf upgrade" every Thursday. 



No, Thunderbird 60 is not 8 versions out-of-date.  There was no major 
release in between 60 and 68:


https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/releases/

Thunderbird 68 will be the first release using the new web extensions 
API (as I understand it), so check compatibility with any extensions 
that you use before upgrading.


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Re: repositories very out-of-date for Thunderbird version?

2019-09-16 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 9/16/19 7:28 PM, home user wrote:

Thank-you, Ed.

 > I am on F30 and

I'm at F29, and hoping to upgrade to 30 in mid-October.  Am I stuck at 
Thunderbird 60.7 until then?


Thunderbird 68 was built September 6, so it might not be out of testing 
yet.  You can add "--enablerepo-updates-testing" to dnf if it's not 
available in updates yet.

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Re: repositories very out-of-date for Thunderbird version?

2019-09-16 Thread Ed Greshko

On 9/17/19 11:06 AM, home user wrote:

I don't recall ever having touched that file.  To check...
---
-bash.4[dnf]: pwd
/etc/dnf
-bash.5[dnf]: cat dnf.conf
[main]
gpgcheck=1
installonly_limit=3
clean_requirements_on_remove=True
-bash.6[dnf]:
---
I suppose that until I upgrade to f30, I'm stuck with Thunderbird 60.7.
(I do not want to risk doing anything outside of dnf.) 


You should also check your repo files.

cd /etc/yum.repos.d
grep excl *

Ah, what version of Fedora are you currently running?  If not running F29 or 
F30 there are no updates.

thunderbird-60.7.0-1.fc28 was the last version built for that release.

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Re: repositories very out-of-date for Thunderbird version?

2019-09-16 Thread home user

> Sorry, the file /etc/dnf/dnf.conf

I don't recall ever having touched that file.  To check...
---
-bash.4[dnf]: pwd
/etc/dnf
-bash.5[dnf]: cat dnf.conf
[main]
gpgcheck=1
installonly_limit=3
clean_requirements_on_remove=True
-bash.6[dnf]:
---
I suppose that until I upgrade to f30, I'm stuck with Thunderbird 60.7.
(I do not want to risk doing anything outside of dnf.)

> And, then they forget what they've done.  :-) :-)
Twooo smileys?
Hmmm...  I think I know who one of the members of "they" is!
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Re: repositories very out-of-date for Thunderbird version?

2019-09-16 Thread Tim via users
Hi,

Ed Greshko:
>> Have you put an "exclude" in the dnf config?

the anonymous home user:
> "dnf config"?
> Where is that?

When unsure, you can use the locate command to find likely suspects
(e.g. "dnf" named things) in the usual places for configuration files
(i.e. inside /etc).

  locate dnf|grep etc

With /etc/dnf/dnf.conf being the main configuration file, and there may
be other things of interest within /etc/dnf/.  But look in the
/etc/dnf.conf file for any "exlude" entries.

> And are you saying I do want an "exclude" there, or I don't want an 
> "exclude" there?

You're being asked if you'd put one in, and forgotten about it.  An
exclude would stop updates (for particular packages listed with the
exclude).  In your case you don't want an exlude.

 
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Re: repositories very out-of-date for Thunderbird version?

2019-09-16 Thread Ed Greshko

On 9/17/19 10:28 AM, home user wrote:

Thank-you, Ed.

> I am on F30 and

I'm at F29, and hoping to upgrade to 30 in mid-October.  Am I stuck at 
Thunderbird 60.7 until then?

> Have you put an "exclude" in the dnf config?

"dnf config"?
Where is that?
And are you saying I do want an "exclude" there, or I don't want an "exclude" 
there?



Sorry, the file /etc/dnf/dnf.conf

Sometimes people don't want a package to be updated as they lose some 
functionality in newer versions or a plugin to an app is no longer supported.

So, they add

excludepkgs=name,name

to that file or one of the repo files.

And, then they forget what they've done.  :-) :-)


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Finding various broken symbolic links?

2019-09-16 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
Have run find . -xtype l in past on systems in various directories to find bad 
links. Recently did it from the root directory on a few systems, and found a 
number of bad links. Not sure if these are just left over links from updates?


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Re: repositories very out-of-date for Thunderbird version?

2019-09-16 Thread home user

Thank-you, Ed.

> I am on F30 and

I'm at F29, and hoping to upgrade to 30 in mid-October.  Am I stuck at 
Thunderbird 60.7 until then?


> Have you put an "exclude" in the dnf config?

"dnf config"?
Where is that?
And are you saying I do want an "exclude" there, or I don't want an 
"exclude" there?

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Re: repositories very out-of-date for Thunderbird version?

2019-09-16 Thread Ed Greshko

On 9/17/19 10:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 9/17/19 10:08 AM, home user wrote:

I very recently asked a question in the Thunderbird support forum. One person 
replied
"Find yourself an updated Thunderbird...".
I have version 60.7.0; the person implied that the current version is 68.  That's 8 
versions out-of-date.  I do a "dnf upgrade" every Thursday.

I did a "dnf check-update thunderbird" this afternoon..  No new versions are 
available.  Why are the repositories so far behind on Thunderbird?


I am on F30 and

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -q thunderbird
thunderbird-68.1.0-1.fc30.x86_64

It came yesterday along with kernel-5.2.14-200 and others



And I forgot to add

Have you put an "exclude" in the dnf config?

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Re: repositories very out-of-date for Thunderbird version?

2019-09-16 Thread Ed Greshko

On 9/17/19 10:08 AM, home user wrote:

I very recently asked a question in the Thunderbird support forum. One person 
replied
"Find yourself an updated Thunderbird...".
I have version 60.7.0; the person implied that the current version is 68.  That's 8 
versions out-of-date.  I do a "dnf upgrade" every Thursday.

I did a "dnf check-update thunderbird" this afternoon..  No new versions are 
available.  Why are the repositories so far behind on Thunderbird?


I am on F30 and

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -q thunderbird
thunderbird-68.1.0-1.fc30.x86_64

It came yesterday along with kernel-5.2.14-200 and others

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repositories very out-of-date for Thunderbird version?

2019-09-16 Thread home user
I very recently asked a question in the Thunderbird support forum. One 
person replied

"Find yourself an updated Thunderbird...".
I have version 60.7.0; the person implied that the current version is 
68.  That's 8 versions out-of-date.  I do a "dnf upgrade" every Thursday.


I did a "dnf check-update thunderbird" this afternoon..  No new versions 
are available.  Why are the repositories so far behind on Thunderbird?


thanks,
Bill.
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Re: Gnome Software Updater no longer working

2019-09-16 Thread Ed Greshko

On 9/17/19 7:09 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

This, I'm pretty sure, relies on package-kit on the back-end.


A note here.  Not being an active gnome user I relied on my memory as opposed 
to not testing.  Part of that was due (excuse) to not having a working gnome VM.

I recalled that doing updates on gnome wouldn't result in info recorded with 
dnf (history).

Well, I just installed a F31 gnome VM and found that updates and installs using 
the gnome-software util do what I recall it not doing in the past.

I don't know enough about how gnome-software goes about setting up the reboot 
process to do the updates.  That appears to me to be the question.

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Re: Gnome Software Updater no longer working

2019-09-16 Thread Ed Greshko

On 9/17/19 9:02 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 9/16/19 4:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 9/17/19 4:10 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 9/15/19 1:51 AM, Robin Lee wrote:

packages as available for updating. If I run yum update, then the
software packages are updated just fine.


I hope you mean "dnf update".


I believe the OP is talking about the "gnome-software" utility. This, I'm 
pretty sure, relies on package-kit on the back-end.


You missed that line at the end.



I don't know what I missed.

yum is now redirecting to DNF and that works.

I think he is saying "gnome-software" doesn't work while yum (dnf) does.

What am I missing or misreading?

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Re: Gnome Software Updater no longer working

2019-09-16 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 9/16/19 4:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 9/17/19 4:10 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 9/15/19 1:51 AM, Robin Lee wrote:

packages as available for updating. If I run yum update, then the
software packages are updated just fine.


I hope you mean "dnf update".


I believe the OP is talking about the "gnome-software" utility. This, 
I'm pretty sure, relies on package-kit on the back-end.


You missed that line at the end.
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Re: Gnome Software Updater no longer working

2019-09-16 Thread Ed Greshko

On 9/17/19 4:10 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 9/15/19 1:51 AM, Robin Lee wrote:

I'm running Fedora 29 and some time ago the Gnome Software Updater
stopped working.

It informs me that there are new updates available and I press the
Download button. After a while the button changes to Restart and Update
and I press it, so the computer reboots and after that it briefly
displays Installing new updates; this could take a while. But then it
just reboots right away and when the system comes up but no updates
have been installed. Gnome Software Updater displays the same software
packages as available for updating. If I run yum update, then the
software packages are updated just fine.


I hope you mean "dnf update".


I believe the OP is talking about the "gnome-software" utility. This, I'm 
pretty sure, relies on package-kit on the back-end.



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Re: Gnome Software Updater no longer working

2019-09-16 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 9/15/19 1:51 AM, Robin Lee wrote:

I'm running Fedora 29 and some time ago the Gnome Software Updater
stopped working.

It informs me that there are new updates available and I press the
Download button. After a while the button changes to Restart and Update
and I press it, so the computer reboots and after that it briefly
displays Installing new updates; this could take a while. But then it
just reboots right away and when the system comes up but no updates
have been installed. Gnome Software Updater displays the same software
packages as available for updating. If I run yum update, then the
software packages are updated just fine.


I hope you mean "dnf update".


Any idea what's wrong here?


Try running "dnf system-upgrade log", although that probably doesn't 
work for regular offline updates.  If it gives you a log from the right 
time, then run "dnf system-upgrade log --number=1" (replace 1 with the 
right log number).  See if you can find an error message.


If that didn't work, then run "journalctl --list-boots" and find the one 
for the right time.  Then run "journalctl -b -1" (again replace with the 
right number).



Could this problem block me from doing an upgrade to Fedora 30?


It might.
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Re: Gnome Software Updater no longer working

2019-09-16 Thread Robin Lee
On Sun, 2019-09-15 at 10:51 +0200, Robin Lee wrote:
> I'm running Fedora 29 and some time ago the Gnome Software Updater
> stopped working.
> 
> It informs me that there are new updates available and I press the
> Download button. After a while the button changes to Restart and
> Update
> and I press it, so the computer reboots and after that it briefly
> displays Installing new updates; this could take a while. But then it
> just reboots right away and when the system comes up but no updates
> have been installed. Gnome Software Updater displays the same
> software
> packages as available for updating. If I run yum update, then the
> software packages are updated just fine. 
> 
> Any idea what's wrong here?
> 
> Could this problem block me from doing an upgrade to Fedora 30?


No ideas what could be wrong here?
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