Re: OT: Linux kernel version in fiber modem
On Sun, 2021-12-26 at 12:23 -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > Often, when the vendors do any security updates, they'll do just the > minimum needed (which does make sense, since it's also the least > likely to break devices that can be difficult or impossible to > recover from an update failure). If the kernel doesn't have any > known and exploitable security issues, it'll be left as-is. That's one of the things I have against domestic NASs. You buy one and find out that it's software is actually 2 years out of date (so much for being a "new" thing). You may or may not find that there's any updates available for it. You're quite likely to find that updates simply remove a (potentially) vulnerable feature (possibly one that you actually want), rather than fix it. Samsung do that trick with their phones. If enough people complain about their faulty software, they delete it instead of fix it. It's about the only way of de-bloating their shovelware. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.49.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 30 15:51:32 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: OT: Linux kernel version in fiber modem
On Sat, 2021-12-25 at 12:19 -0500, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > The joy of IoT: devices that are treated as appliances: never > get patched and are updated by being tossed and replaced with one > with newer vulnerabilities. And house lighting that's out of your control when the remote server controlling it goes down... My ISP supplied my modem/router years ago, then sent me a new one recently. It was worse than the old one. I don't know if it's any better or worse security-wise, but operationally speaking it's a disaster. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.49.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 30 15:51:32 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: mp4 to dvd
On 12/26/21 10:06, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/26/21 12:53 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: dvdstyler might be a good thing to have even if it does not do conversions, but right now, I'm looking for a conversion tool. Have you tried Audacity? That's only for audio, not video. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: mp4 to dvd
On 12/24/21 12:17, Michael Hennebry wrote: Any suggestions for converting mp4 files to VOB? Even an example with mencoder might be useful. Long long ago, I used mencoder for making DVD video files. Lost track of the script I used. I tried it again recently, but getting all the options right was making my head swim. At least one of the files I want to convert is 480x360@24 . If your end result is to be a DVD, then dvdstyler would be the way to go. If you just want a vob file for some reason, then ffmpeg can do that. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1161044 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Pan updates
On 27/12/2021 01:45, Beartooth wrote: [...] On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 16:00:08 -0500, Ted Roche wrote: You can look up packages at https://packages.fedoraproject.org/ and https://packages.fedoraproject.org/pkgs/pan/pan/ shows you the current state of things. Perhaps you can get in touch with the maintainers of the Fedora package (linked on that page) if you are very desperate for the new version and make your case, or perhaps volunteer to help out. I'm OK, thanks! Just surprised. I'd love to help, but my .sig means what it says (and I'm ancient of days). Well, according to the upstream website, the version you want was released on December 22. Do you think it reasonable that it someone would work on getting it into Fedora so quickly? -- Did 황준호 die? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: mp4 to dvd
On Sun, 26 Dec 2021, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/26/21 12:53 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: dvdstyler might be a good thing to have even if it does not do conversions, but right now, I'm looking for a conversion tool. On sourceforge, I was told that dvdstyler does convert mp4. Have you tried Audacity? Not yet. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu I disapprove of winter. Winter doesn't care. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: OT: Linux kernel version in fiber modem
On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 1:24 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > Often, when the vendors do any security updates, they'll do just the > minimum needed (which does make sense, since it's also the least likely > to break devices that can be difficult or impossible to recover from an > update failure). If the kernel doesn't have any known and exploitable > security issues, it'll be left as-is. fair point. as far as I know, vendors also do their own patching to old kernel versions too. which brings me to… > So, an old kernel version can indicate unmaintained software, or it can > also indicate conservative update practices. Unforunately, the first > case is much more likely. yeah, that’s what I worry is what happened here. I have no reason to believe they’re maintaining it in any way. which does leave the potential for something to slip through the cracks eventually. (it may not have happened, but it can. even if you’re fully up to date, it still very well could be an issue) to be honest - I always assume the worst because I’m never quite sure if something I’m using is being maintained in some way. (that’s part of the reason I swapped away from Android for the time being.) Sent from my iPhone -- -slade ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: OT: Linux kernel version in fiber modem
Once upon a time, Slade Watkins said: > goes without saying but… old versions of the kernel are certainly way more > prone to these attacks and 100% shouldn’t be included on hardware meant to > be connected to the internet. (let alone send that connection to other > devices and otherwise manage the network…) The kernel is generally not a security issue on most of these devices; there haven't been many remotely-exploitable kernel vulnerabilities over time (at most, they're typically denial-of-service type attacks). I wouldn't really worry too much about just an old kernel version. The security issues with embedded/IoT type things tend to be more in the vendor software, often something that was slapped together with no thought to security and never well maintained. They have debugging passwords accidentally left enabled, poor input processing, etc., and they often run everything as root, losing the key protections of a Unix/Linux environment (so there's no need for kernel security holes to gain privilege). Often, when the vendors do any security updates, they'll do just the minimum needed (which does make sense, since it's also the least likely to break devices that can be difficult or impossible to recover from an update failure). If the kernel doesn't have any known and exploitable security issues, it'll be left as-is. So, an old kernel version can indicate unmaintained software, or it can also indicate conservative update practices. Unforunately, the first case is much more likely. -- Chris Adams ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: mp4 to dvd
On 12/26/21 12:53 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: dvdstyler might be a good thing to have even if it does not do conversions, but right now, I'm looking for a conversion tool. Have you tried Audacity? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: mp4 to dvd
On Sat, 25 Dec 2021, Ed Greshko wrote: On 25/12/2021 05:44, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Fri, 24 Dec 2021, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 14:17:57 -0600 (CST), Michael Hennebry wrote: Any suggestions for converting mp4 files to VOB? At least one of the files I want to convert is 480x360@24 . Have you used package "dvdstyler" from RPMFusion Free before? I have not. Does "supporting' a format mean the dvdstyler will automatically convert from that format to VOB? You may want to consult https://www.dvdstyler.org/en/ I did. That is where I got the term "support". Under features: support of AVI, MOV, MP4, MPEG, OGG, WMV and other file formats support of MPEG-2, MPEG-4, DivX, Xvid, MP2, MP3, AC-3 and other audio and video formats ... put files with different audio/video format on one DVD (support of titleset) dvdstyler might be a good thing to have even if it does not do conversions, but right now, I'm looking for a conversion tool. If dvdstyler can do the job, excellent, but I'd like to know before installing. -- Did ??? die? No. Just away from my computer for a while. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Sorry but your password must contain an uppercase letter, a number, a haiku, a gang sign, a heiroglyph, and the blood of a virgin." -- someeecards ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Pan updates
[...] On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 16:00:08 -0500, Ted Roche wrote: > > You can look up packages at https://packages.fedoraproject.org/ > > and https://packages.fedoraproject.org/pkgs/pan/pan/ shows you the > current state of things. > > Perhaps you can get in touch with the maintainers of the Fedora package > (linked on that page) if you are very desperate for the new version and > make your case, or perhaps volunteer to help out. I'm OK, thanks! Just surprised. I'd love to help, but my .sig means what it says (and I'm ancient of days). -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: OT: Linux kernel version in fiber modem
On 12/26/21 10:52, Qiyu Yan wrote: 在 2021-12-25星期六的 03:15 -0800，Jonathan Ryshpan写道： On a whim I opened up the: Legal Disclaimer Open Source Licenses in the management page for my fiber modem (ATT installed 2021/03/30) and discovered that the kernel is rather old: linux kernel - Version 3.4.11 There are about 163 other open source components, probably most of similar ages. Is this a security problem? Yes, for such a old device, the vendor may have stopped receiving vulnerable reports or publishing updates. And you device is connected to network, that make things worse. Usually, a botnet is made up of those unmaintained but still running device. I happened to have read a article about a botnet build on hacked modems in China, https://blog.netlab.360.com/pink-en/ in this case, when devices gets hacked, the only to "fix" is a replacement. And try and get your FIber ISP to provide you with new gear. I cannot replace it with my own. Must use what they provide... ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: OT: Linux kernel version in fiber modem
On 12/26/21 09:23, James Szinger wrote: On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 03:15:50 -0800 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: On a whim I opened up the: Legal Disclaimer Open Source Licenses in the management page for my fiber modem (ATT installed 2021/03/30) and discovered that the kernel is rather old: linux kernel - Version 3.4.11 There are about 163 other open source components, probably most of similar ages. Is this a security problem? I would not worry too much about it. All the equally old stuff in userspace is a bigger concern. On the other hand, my ISP already has complete control of my cable modem; they apply firmware updates and manage the configuration. All I can do is log in and view the status report. The modem is effectively part of the ISP infrastructure, which is already beyond my control. My modem runs in bridge mode and I have a separate router to interface with the LAN. This provides a clear demarcation between the ISP and my LAN. Kind of the same, except. My public IPv4 and IPv6 space is between my ISP gear and my firewall. So my public servers have to be there. Got them locked down as much as I can. I tried setting up one zone on my firewall in bridged mode, but I gave up on that. I really need new firewall gear and need to try that again... Everything else is behind my firewall. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: OT: Linux kernel version in fiber modem
On Dec 26, 2021, at 11:22, Slade Watkins wrote: > > I’m surprised they didn’t at least update the kernel included on OP’s modem > to a version that is still being maintained in the longterm…(4.4.y or later I > believe?) I am not surprised. I remember at a previous location, I had an analog TV adapter from Comcast, and I turned the TV on once to see a text login prompt with a 2.2.18(?) kernel. The custom GUI running on the OS in the cable TV adapter had crashed and a power cycle brought it back. — Jonathan Billings ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: OT: Linux kernel version in fiber modem
On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 10:52 AM Qiyu Yan wrote: > Usually, a botnet is made up of those unmaintained but still running > device. > > I happened to have read a article about a botnet build on hacked modems > in China, https://blog.netlab.360.com/pink-en/ in this case, when > devices gets hacked, the only to "fix" is a replacement. I’m surprised they didn’t at least update the kernel included on OP’s modem to a version that is still being maintained in the longterm…(4.4.y or later I believe?) goes without saying but… old versions of the kernel are certainly way more prone to these attacks and 100% shouldn’t be included on hardware meant to be connected to the internet. (let alone send that connection to other devices and otherwise manage the network…) Sent from my iPhone > -- -slade ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: OT: Linux kernel version in fiber modem
在 2021-12-25星期六的 03:15 -0800，Jonathan Ryshpan写道： > On a whim I opened up the: > Legal Disclaimer Open Source Licenses > in the management page for my fiber modem (ATT installed 2021/03/30) > and discovered that the kernel is rather old: > linux kernel - Version 3.4.11 > There are about 163 other open source components, probably most of > similar ages. > > Is this a security problem? Yes, for such a old device, the vendor may have stopped receiving vulnerable reports or publishing updates. And you device is connected to network, that make things worse. Usually, a botnet is made up of those unmaintained but still running device. I happened to have read a article about a botnet build on hacked modems in China, https://blog.netlab.360.com/pink-en/ in this case, when devices gets hacked, the only to "fix" is a replacement. > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en- > US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproje > ct.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure -- Qiyu Yan GPG keyid: 0x4FC914F065F2DF12 About: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yanqiyu signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Problems with disk? apps failed, then reboot failed. Needed fsck
Quick note: I am using SSD: fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 465.76 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors Disk model: WDC WDBNCE5000PN Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos But there may be a connection problem. I have been bouncing the notebook in my backpack these passed days. This Lenovo x140e may be old, but I think clean inside. Sensors is reporting CPU temp of 55C. This is a new, current install of F35. I always start clean then move over /home from my old SSD with rsync. I am still using ext4. I have heard of poor performance reviews still with btrfs. I guess it is time to read up on it. Nothing much I can do until tonight when I get back home. On 12/26/21 09:46, John Mellor wrote: On 2021-12-26 9:16 a.m., Robert Moskowitz wrote: I was working away this morning and got a failure with LIbreOffice. Was not actually using it, but then the dialog popped up without the content being filled out, Just whatever was on the screen when it opened... I could not get OpenOffice to restart. It did create a abrt and tried to upload a bug report, but that failed. I tried to open my Fedora mail folder to see if anything was being discussed, but Thuderbird would not show content of the folder. Oh, oh time. Time to reboot. But first do a 'dnf update' and got a new LibreOffice. Reboot failed. Got dropped in emergency mode. Turned out my /home partition was not mounted. I have not had to deal with this in YEARS and I am away from home so no old system to fall back on. In fact no other computers here. Internet via my cellphone. I remembered the disk recovery program started with 'f', fortunately not too many such and found fsck which I ran on /dev/sda5 Lots of errors I let it fix and as you many guess I am now up and running. LibreOffice recovered the docs I had open. Thunderbird is opening folders. I guess other things are working, but 2 items. LibreOffice uploaded a dump, but I did not create a bug report. Should I (I did get a new LibreOffice in all this). If so, how do I find what was uploaded to link to a bug report? How do I figure out what fsck fixed and what may now be a broken important file? It could just be tmp junk for all I know. Anyway big scare here with only a non-working computer and no one to talk to for help, as I have not been in this sort of recovery mode for years. I was not looking forward to getting home tonight and THEN start recoverying. Backup first order of business tomorrow morning. I think the first order of business is to run the hardware diagnostics. You may have failing memory, oxidized connectors, or any of a host of other possible issues. Reseating the memory and the disk and power connectors will generally fix mismatched connector plating oxidation issues for quite a while. While you're in there, blow out the processor cooling fins under the fan. Its probably mostly plugged by now. If not, find your local used computer outlet and just replace it for (say) $150, or get a new one for (say) $1200. Then, if your hardware (other than the disk) is good, backup what you need. Almost everything will be on your home directory, and may be corrupt, but its a good starting place. Get a big $30 thumbdrive or an external disk to do the backup. If you don't have one, buy one, as you will need it for future backups. Then, assuming that you have not found the real problem, it is time to run the extended (multi-hour) SMART tests on the drive. You will probably have to buy a new disk. It is now probably progressively failing in ways that you have not anticipated. This may be the time to put in an SSD instead of spinning rust, as they are only 3x the price, and the speedup is impressive. Then, do a complete fresh install on the new disk. Unless you are a maintenance dev locked into ancient libs for some reason, upgrade to the latest version of your distro. If you are not using btrfs, its now the default in Fedora, and checks for corruption on every read. You may find like I did, that your motherboard has become unstable in ways not caught by the diagnostics and causing continuing issues, so you may need that backup again... While configuring your new install, reconfig Thunderbird to keep the email on the upstream host instead of the default download. With fast networks today, it makes little sense to download every email. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not
Re: Problems with disk? apps failed, then reboot failed. Needed fsck
On 2021-12-26 9:16 a.m., Robert Moskowitz wrote: I was working away this morning and got a failure with LIbreOffice. Was not actually using it, but then the dialog popped up without the content being filled out, Just whatever was on the screen when it opened... I could not get OpenOffice to restart. It did create a abrt and tried to upload a bug report, but that failed. I tried to open my Fedora mail folder to see if anything was being discussed, but Thuderbird would not show content of the folder. Oh, oh time. Time to reboot. But first do a 'dnf update' and got a new LibreOffice. Reboot failed. Got dropped in emergency mode. Turned out my /home partition was not mounted. I have not had to deal with this in YEARS and I am away from home so no old system to fall back on. In fact no other computers here. Internet via my cellphone. I remembered the disk recovery program started with 'f', fortunately not too many such and found fsck which I ran on /dev/sda5 Lots of errors I let it fix and as you many guess I am now up and running. LibreOffice recovered the docs I had open. Thunderbird is opening folders. I guess other things are working, but 2 items. LibreOffice uploaded a dump, but I did not create a bug report. Should I (I did get a new LibreOffice in all this). If so, how do I find what was uploaded to link to a bug report? How do I figure out what fsck fixed and what may now be a broken important file? It could just be tmp junk for all I know. Anyway big scare here with only a non-working computer and no one to talk to for help, as I have not been in this sort of recovery mode for years. I was not looking forward to getting home tonight and THEN start recoverying. Backup first order of business tomorrow morning. I think the first order of business is to run the hardware diagnostics. You may have failing memory, oxidized connectors, or any of a host of other possible issues. Reseating the memory and the disk and power connectors will generally fix mismatched connector plating oxidation issues for quite a while. While you're in there, blow out the processor cooling fins under the fan. Its probably mostly plugged by now. If not, find your local used computer outlet and just replace it for (say) $150, or get a new one for (say) $1200. Then, if your hardware (other than the disk) is good, backup what you need. Almost everything will be on your home directory, and may be corrupt, but its a good starting place. Get a big $30 thumbdrive or an external disk to do the backup. If you don't have one, buy one, as you will need it for future backups. Then, assuming that you have not found the real problem, it is time to run the extended (multi-hour) SMART tests on the drive. You will probably have to buy a new disk. It is now probably progressively failing in ways that you have not anticipated. This may be the time to put in an SSD instead of spinning rust, as they are only 3x the price, and the speedup is impressive. Then, do a complete fresh install on the new disk. Unless you are a maintenance dev locked into ancient libs for some reason, upgrade to the latest version of your distro. If you are not using btrfs, its now the default in Fedora, and checks for corruption on every read. You may find like I did, that your motherboard has become unstable in ways not caught by the diagnostics and causing continuing issues, so you may need that backup again... While configuring your new install, reconfig Thunderbird to keep the email on the upstream host instead of the default download. With fast networks today, it makes little sense to download every email. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: OT: Linux kernel version in fiber modem
On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 03:15:50 -0800 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > On a whim I opened up the: >Legal Disclaimer Open Source Licenses > in the management page for my fiber modem (ATT installed 2021/03/30) > and discovered that the kernel is rather old: >linux kernel - Version 3.4.11 > There are about 163 other open source components, probably most of > similar ages. > > Is this a security problem? I would not worry too much about it. All the equally old stuff in userspace is a bigger concern. On the other hand, my ISP already has complete control of my cable modem; they apply firmware updates and manage the configuration. All I can do is log in and view the status report. The modem is effectively part of the ISP infrastructure, which is already beyond my control. My modem runs in bridge mode and I have a separate router to interface with the LAN. This provides a clear demarcation between the ISP and my LAN. Jim ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Problems with disk? apps failed, then reboot failed. Needed fsck
I was working away this morning and got a failure with LIbreOffice. Was not actually using it, but then the dialog popped up without the content being filled out, Just whatever was on the screen when it opened... I could not get OpenOffice to restart. It did create a abrt and tried to upload a bug report, but that failed. I tried to open my Fedora mail folder to see if anything was being discussed, but Thuderbird would not show content of the folder. Oh, oh time. Time to reboot. But first do a 'dnf update' and got a new LibreOffice. Reboot failed. Got dropped in emergency mode. Turned out my /home partition was not mounted. I have not had to deal with this in YEARS and I am away from home so no old system to fall back on. In fact no other computers here. Internet via my cellphone. I remembered the disk recovery program started with 'f', fortunately not too many such and found fsck which I ran on /dev/sda5 Lots of errors I let it fix and as you many guess I am now up and running. LibreOffice recovered the docs I had open. Thunderbird is opening folders. I guess other things are working, but 2 items. LibreOffice uploaded a dump, but I did not create a bug report. Should I (I did get a new LibreOffice in all this). If so, how do I find what was uploaded to link to a bug report? How do I figure out what fsck fixed and what may now be a broken important file? It could just be tmp junk for all I know. Anyway big scare here with only a non-working computer and no one to talk to for help, as I have not been in this sort of recovery mode for years. I was not looking forward to getting home tonight and THEN start recoverying. Backup first order of business tomorrow morning. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
