nvidia driver disabled ion F36 upgrade?

2022-05-14 Thread Barry Scott
I have been using the nvidia driver from rpmfusion on f35 without problem.

Just upgraded to F36 and its using nouveau.

There is a nvidia-fallback service that ran and did the modprobe nouveau.
(Nice that this is here as a fallback)

Anyone know why the rpmfusion driver is not automatically loaded after
the upgrade?

Barry
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Re: font longevity questions.

2022-05-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2022-05-14 at 11:21 +0930, Tim via users wrote:
> I'd briefly looked at LaTex, decided it was more pain that is worth
> for *me* to learn, but lots of people provide that same advice. 
> Having been down the road, before, of using proprietary word proc doc
> formats that couldn't be used elsewhere, I see the value of well
> defined and universal document formats.  And it is a format that
> print publishers could handle, if your documents were heading that
> way.

You might be interested in Overleaf:

https://www.overleaf.com/

poc

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Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 00:45 +, olivares33561 via users wrote:
> I am running Gnome and had a command in ~/.bash_profile to compose
> setxkbmap -compose ralt key
> 
> to put a ñ I used ~ and n but it does not work anymore :(. What is
> the magic incantanation?  I am using Tom's technique copy paste from
> web browser.  But if I can use a compose key strategy, it would be
> appreciated if there is a how-to and independent of which desktop one
> uses.

I use dead keys for diacriticals: áéíóúüñ. It's just a keyboard layout
selection. I only use the Compose key for ¿ and !.

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Re: fractional scaling in Fedora 36

2022-05-14 Thread Anil Felipe Duggirala


On Sat, May 14 2022 at 11:33:17 AM +0930, Tim via users 
 wrote:

On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 08:47 -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote:

 My questions:
 1. Is there another way to enable fractional scaling? (Gnome and
 Wayland)


In my opinion scaling is a bad hack to avoid properly sizing a GUI to
the current screen resolution and dimensions, and produced no end of
rendering side effects when I messed with it in the past.


Hello Tim.
I don't know what you mean by "end of rendering".



Have you tried simply setting appropriate font sizes?



That is what Ive done so far. I installed gnome-tweaks and set the font 
"scaling factor" to 1.20.  And chose appropriate font size in apps like 
CLion.
I will continue to play with fonts to see if that works. My eyesight is 
not the best right now.
My screen is scaled at 200% at this point. Using no scaling would be 
impossible I think. This is a 4k resolution on a 15 inch screen.


thank you,


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F36

2022-05-14 Thread jarmo
Have now upgraded two laplotps one desktop from F35 -- F36.
Smooth, quick, perfect. No hickups.

Thank you guys!!

Jarmo
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Re: fractional scaling in Fedora 36

2022-05-14 Thread John Pilkington

On 14/05/2022 13:38, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote:


On Sat, May 14 2022 at 11:33:17 AM +0930, Tim via users 
 wrote:

On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 08:47 -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote:

My questions: 1. Is there another way to enable fractional
scaling? (Gnome and Wayland) 

In my opinion scaling is a bad hack to avoid properly sizing a GUI to 
the current screen resolution and dimensions, and produced no end of 
rendering side effects when I messed with it in the past. 


Hello Tim.
I don't know what you mean by "end of rendering".


"no end of"  means "very many" or "a lot of" :-)



Have you tried simply setting appropriate font sizes? 


That is what Ive done so far. I installed gnome-tweaks and set the font 
"scaling factor" to 1.20. And chose appropriate font size in apps like 
CLion.
I will continue to play with fonts to see if that works. My eyesight is 
not the best right now.
My screen is scaled at 200% at this point. Using no scaling would be 
impossible I think. This is a 4k resolution on a 15 inch screen.


thank you,


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Re: font longevity questions.

2022-05-14 Thread James Szinger
On Sat, 14 May 2022 11:21:32 +0930
Tim via users  wrote:

> On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 07:48 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> I'd briefly looked at LaTex, decided it was more pain that is worth
> for *me* to learn, but lots of people provide that same advice.
> Having been down the road, before, of using proprietary word proc doc
> formats that couldn't be used elsewhere, I see the value of well
> defined and universal document formats.  And it is a format that
> print publishers could handle, if your documents were heading that
> way.

Try markdown if LaTeX is too complicated.  Markdown is a simple,
text-based markup language that can be automatically converted to
other formats, including HTML, LaTeX, PDF, and MS Word.  It is
amenable to version control since it is text-base; it is the preferred
documentation format for GitHub and GitLab.  Markdown syntax is simple
enough for a person to read and write after quick introduction.

I have been using LaTeX for decades and have designed several document
classes.  Markdown is better for most of my documents, unless I need a
publication quality PDF with advance formatting.

I don’t grok word processors.  Plain text is just as good for simple
documents and WYSIWYG interferes with complicated formatting.  Many of
the Word files I get from my colleagues are a mess.

Jim

P.S. This e-mail is an example of markdown.
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fedora-release-35 still installed after 35->36 upgrade

2022-05-14 Thread Ian Pilcher

I just noticed that my newly upgraded system is still checking the
Fedora 35 repos when I run 'dnf update'.  Not confirmed yet, but I
suspect it's because I still have fedora-release-35 installed.

$ rpm -q fedora-release
fedora-release-35-36.noarch
fedora-release-36-17.noarch

Anyone else seen this?

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tor browser with flatpak - ?

2022-05-14 Thread lejeczek via users

Hi guys.
Anybody here uses tor browser flatpak version?
I'm looking for a way to make such tor browser read/honor 
'torrc' config.


thanks, L.
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Re: fedora-release-35 still installed after 35->36 upgrade

2022-05-14 Thread Joe Zeff

On 5/14/22 12:25, Ian Pilcher wrote:

I just noticed that my newly upgraded system is still checking the
Fedora 35 repos when I run 'dnf update'.  Not confirmed yet, but I
suspect it's because I still have fedora-release-35 installed.

$ rpm -q fedora-release
fedora-release-35-36.noarch
fedora-release-36-17.noarch

Anyone else seen this?


I haven't upgraded yet, but you're right about what's happening. 
Instead of checking the contents of /etc/fedora-release, it just checks 
to see which version is installed.  If, for some reason, the older 
version isn't removed from the database, it will see it first and assume 
that's the version of Fedora you're using.  Just remove the older 
version (which isn't really installed anyway) and you're good to go.

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Re: fedora-release-35 still installed after 35->36 upgrade

2022-05-14 Thread Ian Pilcher

On 5/14/22 15:00, Joe Zeff wrote:
I haven't upgraded yet, but you're right about what's happening. Instead 
of checking the contents of /etc/fedora-release, it just checks to see 
which version is installed.  If, for some reason, the older version 
isn't removed from the database, it will see it first and assume that's 
the version of Fedora you're using.  Just remove the older version 
(which isn't really installed anyway) and you're good to go.


On further examination, I had a whole bunch of duplicate packages in the
RPM database.  It looks as if none of the old FC35 packages were removed
from the database during the upgrade.  Very odd.

Fortunately, 'dnf reinstall --allowerasing `rpm -qa | grep fc36`' seems
to have cleaned things up.

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Re: font longevity questions.

2022-05-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2022-05-14 at 07:42 -0600, James Szinger wrote:
> I don’t grok word processors.  Plain text is just as good for simple
> documents and WYSIWYG interferes with complicated formatting.  Many
> of the Word files I get from my colleagues are a mess.

To paraphrase Brian Kernighan:

   WYSIWYG means "What You See Is ALL You Get".

poc
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Re: fedora-release-35 still installed after 35->36 upgrade

2022-05-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2022-05-14 at 16:25 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> On 5/14/22 15:00, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > I haven't upgraded yet, but you're right about what's happening.
> > Instead 
> > of checking the contents of /etc/fedora-release, it just checks to
> > see 
> > which version is installed.  If, for some reason, the older version
> > isn't removed from the database, it will see it first and assume
> > that's 
> > the version of Fedora you're using.  Just remove the older version 
> > (which isn't really installed anyway) and you're good to go.
> 
> On further examination, I had a whole bunch of duplicate packages in
> the
> RPM database.  It looks as if none of the old FC35 packages were
> removed
> from the database during the upgrade.  Very odd.
> 
> Fortunately, 'dnf reinstall --allowerasing `rpm -qa | grep fc36`'
> seems
> to have cleaned things up.

You can find duplicates with this (from the Release Notes):

$ sudo dnf repoquery --duplicates

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Re: fedora-release-35 still installed after 35->36 upgrade

2022-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/14/22 14:25, Ian Pilcher wrote:

On 5/14/22 15:00, Joe Zeff wrote:
I haven't upgraded yet, but you're right about what's happening. 
Instead of checking the contents of /etc/fedora-release, it just 
checks to see which version is installed.  If, for some reason, the 
older version isn't removed from the database, it will see it first 
and assume that's the version of Fedora you're using.  Just remove the 
older version (which isn't really installed anyway) and you're good to 
go.


On further examination, I had a whole bunch of duplicate packages in the
RPM database.  It looks as if none of the old FC35 packages were removed
from the database during the upgrade.  Very odd.


That sounds like something failed during the upgrade.  Can you check the 
logs?  There's a system-upgrade command that finds the right logs for 
you.  "dnf system-upgrade log"

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Re: font longevity questions.

2022-05-14 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2022-05-14 at 07:42 -0600, James Szinger wrote:
> Try markdown if LaTeX is too complicated.  Markdown is a simple,
> text-based markup language that can be automatically converted to
> other formats, including HTML, LaTeX, PDF, and MS Word.

I may have another look at these.  I don't particularly have a need, so
that does leave time for experimentation.

But I've found that converting document formats has always produced
garbage.  One does something the other does not, so it fakes it by
shoehorning content into things where it doesn't belong (the wrong
elements), or masses of metadata getting shovelled in.

e.g. what was simply 

  something
  something


Gets infiltrated with junk like this:


  something
  something


The classes weren't necessary, the characters in the classes mean
nothing.  I would have done no specific styling of elements.  I'd have
styled any ol inside the header one way, any ol inside the main another
way, any ol inside the nav another way, etc.  i.e. A simple set of
selective CSS rules, not explicit styling except for a few cases, where
the class names would actually make sense to me (e.g. "sitebanner"). 
That tag soup eliminates the prime feature of HTML with CSS that I can
simply restyle the website by adjusting the stylesheet (in this case, I
can't *simply* adjust the stylesheet, I have to extensively study all
the HTML).

I even see that class crap shovelled in when I haven't done any
styling, I'd just been typing completely plain HTML.  Email clients'
HTML generators have to be the absolute worst, even worse than
wordprocessors for creating that junk.


> I don’t grok word processors.  Plain text is just as good for simple
> documents and WYSIWYG interferes with complicated formatting.  Many
> of the Word files I get from my colleagues are a mess.

I can handle word processors fine, but I don't like fixing other
people's documentation.  There's a font over here, and another over
there, there's no reason for either of them.  Correcting one spelling
error repaginates several pages, argh!  None of them can use
punctuation correctly, and they all use them like an electric
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Re: fractional scaling in Fedora 36

2022-05-14 Thread Tim via users
Tim:
>> In my opinion scaling is a bad hack to avoid properly sizing a GUI
>> to the current screen resolution and dimensions, and produced
>> no end of rendering side effects when I messed with it in the past.

Anil Felipe Duggirala:
> I don't know what you mean by "end of rendering".

"no end of rendering side effects" meaning endless problems.

Some things would scale, others would not (bits of the GUI, browsers
have their own independent rendering engines, word processors, too).

If I'm preparing a document, and want to see it in 1:1 screen rendering
so I can see how it'll print.  (There are display options in word
processors for 1:1, full width, full height, and other magnifications.)
I want an A4 page to display at real A4 size on the screen (if I hold a
piece of paper next to it, it ought to be nearly identical).  If I want
to draw a 4 cm by 8 cm rectangle, I want it to appear in those sizes. 
If I use 12 point text, it actually has to be 12 point text, not
something unpredictable.  Likewise, if I want to use 20 pixel text to
match alongside a 200 by 300 pixel image, I want them both to be using
the same pixel size.  Centimeters, pixels and points are absolute
sizes, *other* sizing schemes are to be used when you want to use
relative sizing.

Likewise when I'm printing something.  I've I've measured something I'm
going to print for, and want to produce a 12 by 10 cm box, with so-many 
lines of 14 point text, I want to edit and print it with those real
dimensions.  Not play random magnification print, adjust, and retry,
games.

I've always found that scaling fouled all of that up.  It seems no
programmer gets that.  They probably think 4 inches is huge.

In my opinion, when you set screen font sizes (e.g. the body text, the
window titles, etc), you should be able to set the size you actually
want.  And the GUIs should appropriately resize to fit.  It should work
that simply.  The clicky icons ought to be a similar size to your
screen font, etc.  Having a separate expansion factor to aid people who
want large or small icons is a good thing, too.  But base the GUI
relative to the size of the text you're reading.

They've simply gone about it the *wrong* way, in how they've changed
the old style of GUI to suit newer tiny, big, and high-resolution screens.
 
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Re: nvidia driver disabled ion F36 upgrade?

2022-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/14/22 01:15, Barry Scott wrote:

I have been using the nvidia driver from rpmfusion on f35 without problem.

Just upgraded to F36 and its using nouveau.

There is a nvidia-fallback service that ran and did the modprobe nouveau.
(Nice that this is here as a fallback)

Anyone know why the rpmfusion driver is not automatically loaded after
the upgrade?


Maybe the new kernel isn't supported yet.  Try running "akmods" and see 
what happens.

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Re: nvidia driver disabled ion F36 upgrade?

2022-05-14 Thread Joe Zeff

On 5/14/22 22:08, Samuel Sieb wrote:


Maybe the new kernel isn't supported yet.


That's only a problem with the kmod, and it's the reason for the akmond.
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Re: nvidia driver disabled ion F36 upgrade?

2022-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/14/22 22:05, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 5/14/22 22:08, Samuel Sieb wrote:


Maybe the new kernel isn't supported yet.


That's only a problem with the kmod, and it's the reason for the akmond.


The akmod still has to compile against the current kernel.  If the 
module source isn't compatible with the new kernel, the compile will fail.

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Re: nvidia driver disabled ion F36 upgrade?

2022-05-14 Thread Joe Zeff

On 5/15/22 00:17, Samuel Sieb wrote:


The akmod still has to compile against the current kernel.  If the 
module source isn't compatible with the new kernel, the compile will fail.


If the akmod won't work against the newest kernel, that will be fixed 
before the kernel is released, because that would be a major show-stopper.

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Re: font longevity questions.

2022-05-14 Thread Tom Mitchell
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 12:07 PM George N. White III  wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 2:35 PM Tom Mitchell  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 8:21 AM home user  wrote:
>> >
>> > Good morning,
>> >
>> > I have about 240 microsoft office word 2010 documents, all 9+ years old,
..
>> Backup and  transfer the fonts you legally own to durable media
>> and install them as needed.
>
>
> You rarely "own" fonts.  Licenses for commercial fonts may allow backups,
> but only for recovery on the system where they were first installed.

Thank you for reinforcing this point.
Fonts and friends are a fickle tangle.
Keep things simple. An old boss could not cope with a text file that
did not end in .txt
My job was to support the products on an exhaustive list of unix and
linux systems (sigh).
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Re: nvidia driver disabled ion F36 upgrade?

2022-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/14/22 23:39, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 5/15/22 00:17, Samuel Sieb wrote:


The akmod still has to compile against the current kernel.  If the 
module source isn't compatible with the new kernel, the compile will 
fail.


If the akmod won't work against the newest kernel, that will be fixed 
before the kernel is released, because that would be a major show-stopper.


Well, that's up to NVidia.  Fedora isn't going to delay a kernel release 
just because a proprietary external kernel module hasn't been updated.

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