Re: software or hardware raid?
On Thu, 2023-03-02 at 19:36 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Also see "A Journal for MD/RAID5", https://lwn.net/Articles/665299/ > and "ext3 and RAID: silent data killers?", > https://lwn.net/Articles/349970/0/ . But both articles are kind of old. Yes, is a 2009 article still valid? Likewise with the 2015 one? I did read the articles, but not the comments. With the exception of one, they're as old as the articles. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.83.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 25 16:41:43 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F37 systemd pulseaudio paradox
Wolfgang Pfeiffer composed on 2023-03-06 18:38 (UTC+0100): > On Mar 06, 2023 at 03:34:38 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: >>I'm not against change, but this is a result of several years of >>system-upgrades, >>and I've never seen anything explaining how to make a switch: ... > In your messages wireplumber does not appear. It seems this software > is managing sound since F34. On this page > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F35_bugs#No_sound_after_upgrade_(wireplumber_not_running) > you find > "Wireplumber ... "needs to be running for sound to work"." > The page above provides excellent documentation to find what went > wrong, and how to fix it. It doesn't seem to cover this: # dnf search systemd | grep -iE 'wire|puls|audio|sound' Last metadata expiration check: 0:20:21 ago on Mon 06 Mar 2023 06:11:55 PM EST. # dnf list installed | grep -iE 'wire|alsa|puls' alsa-firmware.noarch 1.2.4-7.fc37 @fedora alsa-lib.x86_641.2.8-2.fc37 @updates alsa-tools-firmware.x86_64 1.2.5-5.fc37 @fedora alsa-ucm.noarch1.2.8-2.fc37 @updates alsa-utils.x86_64 1.2.8-1.fc37 @updates pipewire-libs.x86_64 0.3.66-1.fc37 @updates pipewire-pulseaudio.x86_64 0.3.66-1.fc37 @updates pulseaudio-libs.x86_64 16.1-4.fc37 @updates pulseaudio-utils.x86_6416.1-4.fc37 @updates python3-alsa.x86_641.2.7-3.fc37 @fedora wireplumber.x86_64 0.4.13-1.fc37 @updates wireplumber-libs.x86_640.4.13-1.fc37 @updates zita-alsa-pcmi.x86_64 0.6.1-1.fc37 @updates # $ systemctl --user status wireplumber.service Unit wireplumber.service could not be found. $ This is after rebooting following running dnf swap --allowerasing pulseaudio pipewire-pulseaudio dnf install wireplumber-libs dnf remove pulseaudio-libs-glib2 # removed phonon* too Afterward: dnf install wireplumber $ systemctl --user status wireplumber.service # wireplumber.service - Multimedia Service Session Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/wireplumber.service: enabled; preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) $ aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono But, nothing coming from speakers. $ wireplumber & M 23:58:14.096348 mod.rt ../src/modules/module-rt.c:274:pw_rtkit_check_xdg_portal: Can't find org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop. Is xdg-desktop-portal running? M 23:58:14.096462 mod.rt ../src/modules/module-rt.c:1035:pipewire__module_init: found session bus but no portal Failed to connect to PipeWire $ systemctl --user status pipewire-pulse ● pipewire-pulse.service - PipeWire PulseAudio Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.service; enabled; preset: disabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-03-07 00:29:15 EST; 43s ago TriggeredBy: ● pipewire-pulse.socket Main PID: 3398 (pipewire-pulse) Tasks: 2 (limit: 2320) Memory: 1.3M CPU: 44ms CGroup: /user.slice/user-2000.slice/user@2000.service/session.slice/pipewire-pulse.service └─3398 /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse Mar 07 00:29:15 gx62b systemd[2718]: Started pipewire-pulse.service - PipeWire PulseAudio. Mar 07 00:29:15 gx62b pipewire-pulse[3398]: mod.rt: Can't find org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop. Is xdg-desktop-portal ru> Mar 07 00:29:15 gx62b pipewire-pulse[3398]: mod.rt: found session bus but no portal Mar 07 00:29:15 gx62b pipewire-pulse[3398]: mod.fallback-sink: can't connect: Host is down Mar 07 00:29:15 gx62b pipewire-pulse[3398]: default: can't run command load-module module-always-sink: Host is down $ # systemctl list-unit-files | grep xdg # Google hits for '"Is xdg-desktop-portal running?" site:fedoraproject.org' that are labeled as to being on ask.fedoraproject.org redirect to discussion.fedoraproject.org URIs totally unrelated to the indicated hit. Apparently https://ask.fedoraproject.org/ also redirects to discussion DDG doesn't return any hits for the same search terms. $ alsa-info.sh output: http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=9b4dd6548b64719700fe9f8dadcdfc47edf600d5 (older) https://paste.centos.org/view/3dbcc4b3 (current; 23hr expire) Is there anything helpful there? What else can I try? Are there additional packages that need to be installed? Where does xdg-desktop-portal come from? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team
Re: 37 systemd pulseaudio paradox
Felix, In your messages wireplumber does not appear. It seems this software is managing sound since F34. On this page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F35_bugs#No_sound_after_upgrade_(wireplumber_not_running) you find "Wireplumber ... "needs to be running for sound to work"." The page above provides excellent documentation to find what went wrong, and how to fix it. HTH On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 03:34:38AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: francis.montag...@inria.fr composed on 2023-03-06 08:01 (UTC+0100): On Mon, 06 Mar 2023 01:47:44 -0500 Felix Miata wrote: Can anyone reconcile the following? # journalctl -b --no-hostname | grep pulse Mar 06 01:38:45 systemd[577]: pulseaudio.socket - Sound System was skipped because of a failed condition check (ConditionUser=!root). Mar 06 01:38:45 systemd[577]: pulseaudio.service - Sound Service was skipped because of a failed condition check (ConditionUser=!root). A systemd user for root has been attempted (pid 577, not 1). The ConditionUser forbid to start it. # systemctl cat pulseaudio.service No files found for pulseaudio.service. # systemctl cat pulseaudio.socket No files found for pulseaudio.socket. # This is a user unit. Use thus: systemctl --user cat pulseaudio.service Interesting. How would a global configuration change be implemented, since any edit made for a user who runs it goes into a user settings directory? You seem to have pulseaudio installed, but as far as I now, pipewire should replace it nowadays. I'm not against change, but this is a result of several years of system-upgrades, and I've never seen anything explaining how to make a switch: # rpm -qa | grep -iE 'pulse|wire' pulseaudio-libs-16.1-4.fc37.x86_64 pulseaudio-16.1-4.fc37.x86_64 pulseaudio-libs-glib2-16.1-4.fc37.x86_64 # dnf search pipewire | wc -l Last metadata expiration check: 2:43:14 ago on Mon 06 Mar 2023 12:29:01 AM EST. 54 # With close to 54 possibilities, it's unlikely I'd choose correctly what to install, or whether or which pulse packages to remove. Is there a conversion script available? Googling site:fedoraproject.org switch from pulseaudio to pipewire Produced https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/how-do-i-switch-from-pulseaudio-to-pipewire-and-back/27441 that seemed appropriate, but clicking on it loaded https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/article-proposal-playing-with-modular-synth/27441 instead. 2nd hit was https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/how-to-switch-from-pipewire-to-pulseaudio-on-fedora-37/29356 but clicking it produced 404. The few remaining I skipped. Searching elsewhere was also unhelpful. :( -- "Press Green" > "Say Yes" > "Run" ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: 37 systemd pulseaudio paradox
Felix Miata wrote: > francis.montag...@inria.fr composed on 2023-03-06 08:01 (UTC+0100): >> This is a user unit. Use thus: systemctl --user cat pulseaudio.service > > Interesting. How would a global configuration change be implemented, since any > edit made for a user who runs it goes into a user settings directory? I believe the --global option should do what you want: systemctl --global --user edit pulseaudio.service and I presume that needs to be run as root, so it can write to /etc/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service.d/override.conf. Or you can just create the override config directly. I've only done the latter, so I can't say the former works as written with certainty. -- Todd signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: 37 systemd pulseaudio paradox
On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 3:34 AM Felix Miata wrote: > [...] [How to switch between pulseaudio and pipewire] > I'm not against change, but this is a result of several years of > system-upgrades, > and I've never seen anything explaining how to make a switch: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/how-to-switch-from-pipewire-to-pulseaudio-on-fedora-37/64025 appears to have the commands for switching between pulseaudio and pipewire in either direction. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: 37 systemd pulseaudio paradox
francis.montag...@inria.fr composed on 2023-03-06 08:01 (UTC+0100): > On Mon, 06 Mar 2023 01:47:44 -0500 Felix Miata wrote: >> Can anyone reconcile the following? >> # journalctl -b --no-hostname | grep pulse >> Mar 06 01:38:45 systemd[577]: pulseaudio.socket - Sound System was skipped >> because of a failed condition check (ConditionUser=!root). >> Mar 06 01:38:45 systemd[577]: pulseaudio.service - Sound Service was skipped >> because of a failed condition check (ConditionUser=!root). > A systemd user for root has been attempted (pid 577, not 1). > The ConditionUser forbid to start it. >> # systemctl cat pulseaudio.service >> No files found for pulseaudio.service. >> # systemctl cat pulseaudio.socket >> No files found for pulseaudio.socket. >> # > This is a user unit. Use thus: systemctl --user cat pulseaudio.service Interesting. How would a global configuration change be implemented, since any edit made for a user who runs it goes into a user settings directory? > You seem to have pulseaudio installed, but as far as I now, pipewire should > replace it nowadays. I'm not against change, but this is a result of several years of system-upgrades, and I've never seen anything explaining how to make a switch: # rpm -qa | grep -iE 'pulse|wire' pulseaudio-libs-16.1-4.fc37.x86_64 pulseaudio-16.1-4.fc37.x86_64 pulseaudio-libs-glib2-16.1-4.fc37.x86_64 # dnf search pipewire | wc -l Last metadata expiration check: 2:43:14 ago on Mon 06 Mar 2023 12:29:01 AM EST. 54 # With close to 54 possibilities, it's unlikely I'd choose correctly what to install, or whether or which pulse packages to remove. Is there a conversion script available? Googling site:fedoraproject.org switch from pulseaudio to pipewire Produced https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/how-do-i-switch-from-pulseaudio-to-pipewire-and-back/27441 that seemed appropriate, but clicking on it loaded https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/article-proposal-playing-with-modular-synth/27441 instead. 2nd hit was https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/how-to-switch-from-pipewire-to-pulseaudio-on-fedora-37/29356 but clicking it produced 404. The few remaining I skipped. Searching elsewhere was also unhelpful. :( -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
