nmcli -d ??

[ToddAndMargo via users]

Hi All,

In CentOS 8, I have the following command:

  # nmcli -d
  example output:
 DEVICE  TYPE  STATE CONNECTION
 ens3ethernet  disconnected  ens3
 lo  loopback  unmanaged ---

But under Fedora 39, the same command gives me

  # nmcli -d
  Error: Option '-d' is unknown, try 'nmcli -help'.

I really like the output that CentOS gives.  Is
there a way to get it back?  Not finding anything
under --help or search.brave.com

Many thanks,
-T



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Re: nmcli -d ??

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 5/17/24 03:54, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

In CentOS 8, I have the following command:

   # nmcli -d
   example output:
  DEVICE  TYPE  STATE CONNECTION
  ens3    ethernet  disconnected  ens3
  lo  loopback  unmanaged ---

But under Fedora 39, the same command gives me

   # nmcli -d
   Error: Option '-d' is unknown, try 'nmcli -help'.

I really like the output that CentOS gives.  Is
there a way to get it back?  Not finding anything
under --help or search.brave.com

Many thanks,
-T


Never mind.  I just figured it out:

# nmcli device
DEVICE  TYPE  STATE   CONNECTION
eno2ethernet  connected   Wired connection 2
lo  loopback  connected (externally)  lo
br0 bridgeconnected   bridge-br0
eno1ethernet  unavailable --
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Re: nmcli -d ??

[Andrew Pearce]

How about

nmcli device status

Regards

Andrew

On 17 May 2024 11:55:23 ToddAndMargo via users 
 wrote:



Hi All,

In CentOS 8, I have the following command:

  # nmcli -d
  example output:
 DEVICE  TYPE  STATE CONNECTION
 ens3ethernet  disconnected  ens3
 lo  loopback  unmanaged ---

But under Fedora 39, the same command gives me

  # nmcli -d
  Error: Option '-d' is unknown, try 'nmcli -help'.

I really like the output that CentOS gives.  Is
there a way to get it back?  Not finding anything
under --help or search.brave.com

Many thanks,
-T



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Re: My Fedora 40 experiences

[Francis . Montagnac]

Hi.

On Thu, 16 May 2024 23:04:21 +1000 Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 16/5/24 21:33, George N. White III wrote:

>> Many users have had problems with the akmod-nvida install. For 470xx the
>> module failed to compile. For newer cards, users sometimes end up with
>> unsigned drivers. This usually means they rebooted too quickly (during the
>> window after the module was compiled but before it was signed.).

Or before the depmod done by the postintall of the kmod-nvidia-KERNEL
RPM finishes.

> I have had the reboot happen too too quickly before but in this case I 
> had no control over the reboot process, it happened automatically when 
> the installs were completed.

Right: more precisely as soon as dnf system-upgrade finishes.

As said earlier on this list:

  I made a proposal to prevent that:

kmod failed to load after upgrade Fedora using dnf system-upgrade
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011120

  still waiting for approval.

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Re: My Fedora 40 experiences

[John Pilkington]

On 17/05/2024 13:08, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote:

Hi.

On Thu, 16 May 2024 23:04:21 +1000 Stephen Morris wrote:

On 16/5/24 21:33, George N. White III wrote:



Many users have had problems with the akmod-nvida install. For 470xx the
module failed to compile. For newer cards, users sometimes end up with
unsigned drivers. This usually means they rebooted too quickly (during the
window after the module was compiled but before it was signed.).


Or before the depmod done by the postintall of the kmod-nvidia-KERNEL
RPM finishes.


I have had the reboot happen too too quickly before but in this case I
had no control over the reboot process, it happened automatically when
the installs were completed.


Right: more precisely as soon as dnf system-upgrade finishes.

As said earlier on this list:

   I made a proposal to prevent that:

 kmod failed to load after upgrade Fedora using dnf system-upgrade
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011120

   still waiting for approval.


This morning 'dnf upgrade' on one of my boxes installed the 
470.239.06-2 versions of akmod and kmod, while the other box, having 
the -1 nersions, said there was 'nothing to do';  then packagekit found 
them and did a preliminary reboot before install.  Both boxes now have 
the -2 versions installed and running.  The process does take several 
minutes - and I did an "akmods --rebuild --force" just to make sure.


F40 with plasma-workspace-x11 does seem to be working well now for me, 
and can use vdpau.


John P



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Re: postfix fails to start on boot

[Alex]

> > I have a fedora38 server with postfix-3.7.9 (although this problem has
> > existed for a long time) that fails to start because I believe the server
> > has multiple interfaces.
>
> The issue is that the postfix.service unit has After=network.target
> (which is fine for binding to 0.0.0.0 (or :: for IPv6).  When instead
> you want to bind to specific IPs (especially beyond just localhost), it
> needs to wait for the entire network to be up, which instead needs to be
> After=network-online.target.
>
> Run "sudo systemctl edit postfix.service" and insert these lines:
>
> [Unit]
> After=network-online.target
>

That's what I was looking for, and thought it would fix it, but alas, it
didn't.

> Just to be clear, that isn't multiple interfaces.  That's multiple IP
> addresses on a single interface.  How are those IP addresses configured?
>  What adds them to the interface?

I believe I added them with nmctl some year(s) ago. I am using all the IPs
on this single interface.

I pasted my ens18.connection file here, but then removed it after I also
noticed I had also configured a bridge on this interface some time ago, and
it looks like that was (mostly) the cause of the problem. I don't think I
need it here anymore, so I'll just remove those config files.

However, sshd still fails to start initially, although it does retry some
seconds later and start properly. Is this expected?

May 17 10:59:05 iceman sshd[989]: error: Bind to port 22 on 130.250.NNN.197
failed: Cannot assign requested address.
May 17 10:59:05 iceman sshd[989]: fatal: Cannot bind any address.
May 17 10:59:47 iceman sshd[2321]: Server listening on 130.250.NNN.197 port
22.
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What have I used too big a hammer on?

[Tom Horsley]

Yesterday there were a couple of hours long xfinity cable outages and
I decided to try to connect over 5G via my phone's hotspot and the
built in wireless on my computer's motherboard.

It could connect, but I couldn't see anything on the internet, I suspect
because I beat NetworkManager into submission with too big a hammer
on my normal network setup where it kept not using my internal LAN
DNS, so my big hammer was to edit

/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf

in in the mail section add

[main]
dns=none

Then remove the /etc/resolv.conf symlink and replace it with a fixed
content file with my local search and dns server so I can lookup
names for all my local stuff.

So, my question is: How to override DNS the same way, but only for
my hardwired ethernet connection, while allowing me to disable that
connection and use my hotspot in time of comcast outage?

Heck, it would be even better if I could use both at the same time,
the local ethernet to get to other computers in the house and the hotspot
to access the internet (but I have a feeling my brain might never
be able to wrap around that).
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Re: postfix fails to start on boot

[Tom Horsley]

On Fri, 17 May 2024 11:13:15 -0400
Alex wrote:

> That's what I was looking for, and thought it would fix it, but alas, it
> didn't.

I have done complete kludgery to solve problems like this by disabling
the service that won't start at boot, then adding rc.local entries
to use "at" to start the service 50 or 60 seconds after initial boot :-).

At least gets things to come up while you figure out the right way
to fix it.
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F40 Sendmail "Connection Refused"

[Tim Evans]

I have sendmail (sendmail-8.18.1-1.fc40.x86_64) on my three home 
systems, its purpose being handling of LOCAL-ONLY mail.  That is, output 
from cron jobs, local backup scripts, and the like. (I review these 
messages using good-ole command-line 'mailx'.) External mail is handled 
by my hosting provider's server, to which I connect with Thunderbird via 
IMAP.


Two of the three systems are handling local mail correctly.  One, 
however, is failing with:


# mailq
/var/spool/mqueue (3 requests)
-Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- 
Sender/Recipient---

44HBtEsB003461 5910 Fri May 17 07:55 MAILER-DAEMON
 (Deferred: Connection refused by 
kestrel.mynetworksettings.co)

 

journalctl reports pretty much the same error message.

This began with the upgrade to F40 yesterday

Haven't dealt with sendmail.cf settings in many, many years, but don't 
think there is misconfig there, as all three systems have identical 
/etc/mail/sendmail.cf files.


What stands out here is the reference to "kestrel.mynetworksettings.co". 
NOTE: ".co" not ".com". Where does this come from, and what do I need to 
do to reset it to the actual local domain name?


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Re: What have I used too big a hammer on?

[Samuel Sieb]

On 5/17/24 8:23 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:

Yesterday there were a couple of hours long xfinity cable outages and
I decided to try to connect over 5G via my phone's hotspot and the
built in wireless on my computer's motherboard.

It could connect, but I couldn't see anything on the internet, I suspect
because I beat NetworkManager into submission with too big a hammer
on my normal network setup where it kept not using my internal LAN
DNS, so my big hammer was to edit

/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf

in in the mail section add

[main]
dns=none

Then remove the /etc/resolv.conf symlink and replace it with a fixed
content file with my local search and dns server so I can lookup
names for all my local stuff.


There shouldn't be any reason to break things like that.  You can set 
the DNS server in the interface settings with network manager.



So, my question is: How to override DNS the same way, but only for
my hardwired ethernet connection, while allowing me to disable that
connection and use my hotspot in time of comcast outage?

Heck, it would be even better if I could use both at the same time,
the local ethernet to get to other computers in the house and the hotspot
to access the internet (but I have a feeling my brain might never
be able to wrap around that).


This is possible with split DNS, but I don't know how to do that 
automatically.  I do this with a VPN at work where a certain domain 
needs to be resolved over the VPN, but I run a script with the DNS 
commands after connecting.

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Re: What have I used too big a hammer on?

[Tim via users]

Tom Horsley:
> So, my question is: How to override DNS the same way, but only for
> my hardwired ethernet connection, while allowing me to disable that
> connection and use my hotspot in time of comcast outage?
> 
> Heck, it would be even better if I could use both at the same time,
> the local ethernet to get to other computers in the house and the
> hotspot to access the internet (but I have a feeling my brain might
> never be able to wrap around that).

I've always done something like that by running my own DNS server.  It
works as a normal DNS server, directly answering queries it has in its
database, and going out onto the internet for those it doesn't.  Just
the same as any ISP's DNS server (want a result for google.com, it asks
.com what to do about it, and walks up the tree, and consults the
record holder for google.com).

I did that decades ago because I wanted to resolve internal names,
without using hosts files, and my ISP's DNS servers were crap (it could
completely fail to return results for common domain names, even for
their own servers).

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Re: nmcli -d ??

[Samuel Sieb]

On 5/17/24 3:56 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 5/17/24 03:54, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

In CentOS 8, I have the following command:

   # nmcli -d
   example output:
  DEVICE  TYPE  STATE CONNECTION
  ens3    ethernet  disconnected  ens3
  lo  loopback  unmanaged ---

But under Fedora 39, the same command gives me

   # nmcli -d
   Error: Option '-d' is unknown, try 'nmcli -help'.

I really like the output that CentOS gives.  Is
there a way to get it back?  Not finding anything
under --help or search.brave.com

Many thanks,
-T


Never mind.  I just figured it out:

# nmcli device
DEVICE  TYPE  STATE   CONNECTION
eno2    ethernet  connected   Wired connection 2
lo  loopback  connected (externally)  lo
br0 bridge    connected   bridge-br0
eno1    ethernet  unavailable --


I guess it used to use a dash for the options.
All you need now is an unambiguous prefix.  "nmcli d" will work.
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Re: My Fedora 40 experiences

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 5:46 AM Stephen Morris 
wrote:

> I used dnf to system-upgrade to F40, which downloaded all the relevant
> packages, and then I rebooted through dnf.
> The restart updated all the packages and automatically rebooted when it
> was finished.
> [...]
> This was a lot of work to resolve, and is the worst experience I've had
> with any fedora system upgrade.
>

Next time, you should consider following <
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/>.
It has never failed me.

Jeff
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Re: My Fedora 40 experiences

[Stephen Morris]

On 17/5/24 22:43, John Pilkington wrote:

On 17/05/2024 13:08, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote:

Hi.

On Thu, 16 May 2024 23:04:21 +1000 Stephen Morris wrote:

On 16/5/24 21:33, George N. White III wrote:


Many users have had problems with the akmod-nvida install. For 
470xx the

module failed to compile. For newer cards, users sometimes end up with
unsigned drivers. This usually means they rebooted too quickly 
(during the

window after the module was compiled but before it was signed.).


Or before the depmod done by the postintall of the kmod-nvidia-KERNEL
RPM finishes.


I have had the reboot happen too too quickly before but in this case I
had no control over the reboot process, it happened automatically when
the installs were completed.


Right: more precisely as soon as dnf system-upgrade finishes.

As said earlier on this list:

   I made a proposal to prevent that:

 kmod failed to load after upgrade Fedora using dnf system-upgrade
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011120

   still waiting for approval.


This morning 'dnf upgrade' on one of my boxes installed the 
470.239.06-2 versions of akmod and kmod, while the other box, having 
the -1 nersions, said there was 'nothing to do';  then packagekit 
found them and did a preliminary reboot before install.  Both boxes 
now have the -2 versions installed and running.  The process does take 
several minutes - and I did an "akmods --rebuild --force" just to make 
sure.


F40 with plasma-workspace-x11 does seem to be working well now for me, 
and can use vdpau.
How did you get Xorg working with Plasma as I can't see any group in dnf 
to install that?


The other thing I didn't like with the F40 upgrade was in F39 I had dnf 
configured to retain 5 kernels, but the F40 upgrade reset that back to 3.


regards,
Steve



John P



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Re: My Fedora 40 experiences

[Stephen Morris]

On 18/5/24 09:19, Jeffrey Walton wrote:



On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 5:46 AM Stephen Morris 
 wrote:


I used dnf to system-upgrade to F40, which downloaded all the
relevant
packages, and then I rebooted through dnf.
The restart updated all the packages and automatically rebooted
when it
was finished.
[...]
This was a lot of work to resolve, and is the worst experience
I've had
with any fedora system upgrade.


Next time, you should consider following 
. 
It has never failed me.
That was the instructions I followed, except for step 4 as I wasn't 
asked to verify the import keys.
Some of my issues were also relative to configurations and settings that 
I had in F39 were wiped with the F40 upgrade.
The one thing those instructions don't elaborate on is when things like 
Plasma won't start apparently because of UEFI issues when the UEFI keys 
that were registered with F39 were still registered after the upgrade.


regards,
Steve



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Any idea how to solve: upgrade to F40 results in Cisco VPN not finding required libraries

[Ranjan Maitra via users]

I have Cisco VPN version cisco-secure-client-linux64-5.0.05040 which is what is 
the current version released by our workplace.

The complete upgrade to Fedora 40 from Fedora 39 appears to have resulted in:

 You are missing the required libraries for the authentication method you 
requested.

whenever I try to use the VPN and basically I can not connect.

Any suggestions as to how to get around this problem?

Many thanks in advance!

Best wishes,
Ranjan



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(Solved!) Re: Any idea how to solve: upgrade to F40 results in Cisco VPN not finding required libraries

[Ranjan Maitra via users]

On Sat May18'24 12:10:31AM, Community Support for Fedora Users wrote:
> From: Ranjan Maitra via users 
> Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 00:10:31 -0500
> To: Community Support for Fedora Users 
> Cc: Ranjan Maitra 
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users 
> Subject: Any idea how to solve: upgrade to F40 results in Cisco VPN not
>  finding required libraries
>
> I have Cisco VPN version cisco-secure-client-linux64-5.0.05040 which is what 
> is the current version released by our workplace.
>
> The complete upgrade to Fedora 40 from Fedora 39 appears to have resulted in:
>
>  You are missing the required libraries for the authentication method you 
> requested.
>
> whenever I try to use the VPN and basically I can not connect.
>
> Any suggestions as to how to get around this problem?

It appears that

sudo dnf install webkit2gtk4.0

gets around this problem for now.

Best,
Ranjan


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