Re: Where are the Apache httpd cache's how do I clear them ?
On 12/20/2011 10:44 AM, Aaron Gray wrote: Hi, Where are the default Apache caches on Fedora (11) and how do I clear them ? I found :- htcacheclean but it requires to be told where the cache directory is. Many thanks in advance, Aaron Google is your friend: httpd cache + http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.1/caching.html [...] Typically the module will be configured as so; CacheRoot /var/cache/apache/ == Exists only if implemented... CacheEnable disk / CacheDirLevels 2 CacheDirLength 1 [...] -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [RESOLVED] Re: Recovering Journal - How Long?
On 12/18/2011 01:02 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/18/2011 12:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: As for singing frarajoka backwards, our ceremony usually included swinging a dead chicken. People wonder why we wave dead chickens over equipment when it doesn't work. My explanation is that we do it because once in a great while, it works, and it doesn't do any harm when it doesn't. Considering your experience, I'm sure you're aware that getting a SCSI chain to work needed three terminations: one at each end, and the goat you sacrificed to get the thing up and running. And always use *black* candles. I have never tried it, I but heard it through the grapevine that if one can get a chicken do a shaman dance on top of your 5+ yr old drive, all drive sectors are miraculously renewed? If this does not work, take the drive to Stonehenge and place the drive in the centre, so that the chicken can induce the proper resonance frequency in order to breathe new life into the drive? If this does not work, take the drive to the pope and ask that he bless the drive with smoke on the (holy) water or to exorcise the devil out. The key here is, dead chickens/popes cannot breathe life into the drive because it (chicken/pope) is dead, but don't take my word for it, do your own homework and at your own risk. If the drive is still under warantee, the Wizard of Oz drive manufacturer will ship you a refurbished drive, fully restored by chicken, Stonehenge, and/or pope and can save you time and money in the long run. Standard disclaimers apply... Hope this helps... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Creating partitions
On 10/23/2011 11:22 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/23/2011 07:57 AM, Miguel Cardenas wrote: I would like to keep simple my disk, and reading the Fedora installation guide found that there are only 3 partitions required, SWAP, BOOT (ext3) and ROOT / (ext3)... I still don't like the idea of an independent boot partition but let's do it in the Fedora way... so, I want to know if this layout may work for me... I want to ask before doing it to save hours of installation just to try and see the results... You only need a /boot partition if root is ext4, because legacy grub doesn't grok it. If you only use ext3, you can get away with two partitions: / and swap. (I have a separate /home, but no /boot.) I have found for ext3 that if the contents of /boot was modified in any way, it can affect whether or not the bootloader could boot off of /boot partition. My advice is to use /boot for ext3 ext4. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Openfoam
On 10/21/2011 02:30 AM, antonio.montagn...@alice.it wrote: has anyone installed successfully Openfoam in Fedora?? (http://www.openfoam.org I think that it should be included in official repo, as it is widely used in teh academic world. Tnx Apparently, Ubuntu supports it. The problem I have with OpenFOAM, there is limited documentation and there is there is no (free) GUI for it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(
On 10/16/2011 08:09 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:06:10 +0530 Rahul Sundaram wrote: That seems to be a bug. You should consider reporting it. Looks like someone already did. I added some info to it: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=746393 I read it... wow... bug works in progress... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(
On 10/16/2011 06:22 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: domsch.com/blog/?p=455 Server timed out so I cannot read it... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Firefox 7 on Fedora 14
On 10/16/2011 08:16 AM, Jorge Fábregas wrote: On 10/16/2011 11:10 AM, Colin Paul Adams wrote: Is it possible to have Firefox continually updated by rpm on a Fedora 14 system, or do I have to choose between staying on Fedora 3 or using tarball installs? You can use the REMI repo for the latest Firefox : rpm -Uvh http://rpms.famillecollet.com/remi-release-14.rpm After that you can run: yum update firefox I'm on Fedora 14 and that's what I've been using so far. HTH, Jorge Ugh. I installed this for F13, and apparently, I needed adobe support - the problem is, that adobe believes that firefox is a ubuntu installation. What can I do at this point? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Firefox 7 on Fedora 14
On 10/16/2011 02:21 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 10/16/2011 08:16 AM, Jorge Fábregas wrote: On 10/16/2011 11:10 AM, Colin Paul Adams wrote: Is it possible to have Firefox continually updated by rpm on a Fedora 14 system, or do I have to choose between staying on Fedora 3 or using tarball installs? You can use the REMI repo for the latest Firefox : rpm -Uvh http://rpms.famillecollet.com/remi-release-14.rpm After that you can run: yum update firefox I'm on Fedora 14 and that's what I've been using so far. HTH, Jorge Ugh. I installed this for F13, and apparently, I needed adobe support - the problem is, that adobe believes that firefox is a ubuntu installation. What can I do at this point? What I was trying to view is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK0O30aFT7gfeature=email ... and FF says it needs a plugin which it cannot find. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Firefox 7 on Fedora 14
On 10/16/2011 03:08 PM, Jorge Fábregas wrote: On 10/16/2011 06:04 PM, Jorge Fábregas wrote: I also have the Adobe repo so I have the latest flash (version 11) which is so far the best release from them in my opinion. Go here: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ ...and select Linux 32-bit or 64-bit and then choose the YUM option so you can download the rpm that will create their YUM repo on your system. Then you should get their updates as soon as they come. Cheers, Jorge I gave it a retry, and remi's FF7/xulrunner7 definitely does not work for certain youtube/flash files, or so it seems. This one does not work, for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK0O30aFT7gfeature=email So, I am going to revert back to the old FF 3.7. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: No, I don't want to maximize my window
On 10/11/2011 03:15 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Dokuro writes: I like this behavior, is like having a dual head!. And I saw it first on Linux Mint 11, with Gnome 2... so the windows rant is just plain stupid It seems you do not move the windows with alt... If you want this new UI behavior, that's fine, and I could even deal with it being the default desktop configuration, requiring me to turn it off somewhere. But just forcibly enabling it, by default, and giving me no visible configuration setting to turn it off, anywhere, and forcing me to root around with gconf-editor – this is just rude. Or, perhaps all the missing UI configuration settings: this one, focus autoraise, and others – perhaps there just wasn't enough time to add the UI for these settings, and Gnome 3 replaced Gnome 2 before it was fully cooked. Whatever the case may be, I just hope that the “we know best, so here's the UI and you're going to like it, because we do, and you won't have any alternatives” meme will not survive. +1 w/Sam -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives
On 10/02/2011 08:40 AM, Newbury wrote: To Daniel Thurman Why fight with physical hardware limitations? Install Virtualbox (it's free) and create as many bootable virtuals as you want, each reachable without a physical hard-on-the-hardware re-boot. And from my experience the actual boot times of the virtuals are only about 50% of physical boot time for the same OS on the same hardware, ignoring BIOS initialization. Plus you can archive a copy of the vdi file for a near instant 're-install'. Geoff I did try VB when it came out at the time, but found it quite difficult figuring out all the nuances from partitions to networking and so on. I guess I was not ready to invest the time in Virt when I wanted to focus more on development. So, I stuck with what I am most familiar with. As it is, I have 3x2T hard drives, Drives 1 2 are manual semi-mirrors of each other and 3 is for staging and testing of new OSes. Managing these are a pita, but it works. I have had drive 1, or drive 1 partitions wiped out only to recover from drive 2 or drive 3. Were it a mirror, I would have lost both. As for the 3T hard disk, I was not willing to be a guinea pig, wasting time fiddling with the 2TB boundary, and unknown older OS nuances and to stick with what I am familiar with, so I ended up with a 2T drive with SATA-3 and a 64MB buffer for the same price as the 3TB drive. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.
Searching google, here is what Dell has to say: http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/3TB+drives%3A+OS+Behavior+Matrix I need a drive that I can partition at least to 15 partitions as I use many different OSes (windows, mac, linux) and it appears to me that I cannot use the MSDOS partition tables for drives larger than 2GB. Currently, I have been using 2x2GB Hitachi DeskStar drives and they work wonderfully with MSDOS partitions. So, It looks to me, I will have to return the 3GB drive back to the store and get a 2GB drive so that I can have 15 partitions, of mixed OS for multiboot operations. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, as I did not do my homework before I bought a 3TB drive... drat! ;) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.
On 10/01/2011 04:35 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 20:32, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: So, It looks to me, I will have to return the 3GB drive back to the store and get a 2GB drive so that I can have 15 partitions, of mixed OS for multiboot operations. Surely you meant 2TB. :) FC Oh geez/terra! Thanks for correcting me! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2
On 09/24/2011 07:26 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 09/24/2011 07:46 AM, Craig White wrote: Whether people are programmers or not is decidedly not the point here. The GNOME developers have made a decision to revamp the UI to account for the fact that computers are extending beyond the model borne out of Xerox PARC... a keyboard, screen and mouse. They are attempting to satisfy display scenarios that might be as small as a telephone to very large and often multiple large displays. They are attempting to satisfy the fact that keyboards and mice might be eschewed in favor of touch input and gestures. They are attempting to satisfy the notion that usage embraces work flow and workspace(s) and not just application launching. Its one thing to add tablet/phone (metro) mode - its another to make laptops (or desktops) much more difficult to use. You can't go to the Ford dealer and buy a brand new 1957 Thunderbird but essentially that is what is being asked of here... an eternal version of GNOME that was envisioned and started 10 years ago. Problem with argument by analogy is that it often makes little sense. Every car you buy still has wheels just as the very first ones did (support for keyboard) .. and they all have a steering wheel (a mouse) ... and they all have an engine and a speedometer ... what has happened to cars is largely additions and automation to make things easier (headlamps that track steering - they wisely did not remove headlamps) - switch to LED lights (not remove lights) ... add auto-back-off cruise control for collision avoidance (not force mouse to move to top left) ... etc ec I can appreciate that long time computer users who only use a keyboard, mouse and screen and little adaptability to how they interact with grander concepts of work flow and workspace might want to drive the 1957 Thunderbird forever and if there is a sufficient number of modestly skilled users, they can keep repairing the Thunderbird forever. I wish them luck. Its not the users - its the vehicle - when I'm using a phone/tablet i'll use the tablet version... when I'm using my multi core server I have no touch sensitive screen ... when I'm flying a plane I'll use different controls than driving a car (or a boat). Don't force me to use boat controls for my plane if you don't mind :-) I would take your point really to mean we should offer a phone/tablet spin as well as a lap/desk top spin. The default spin ... I have no view ... however only having a phone spin for fedora is silly. Of course we have the other DE's which are better suited - so my suggestion is move Gnome-3 to a tablet spin and make KDE or LXDE or XFCE the desktop spin and be done with this silly bickering. Vote for which is the default spin or base it on percent of tablets/phones running fedora if you prefer. Gnome 3 is not -the- future - its just todays tablet spin .. Then again, even the most casual reading of the intent of Fedora makes it clear that it embraces the latest technology advances and those who just want things to remain as they are should probably not be using Fedora but something like RHEL or CentOS which provide long term non-change by intent. One must use the right tool for the job - the latest here is the phone spin - doesn't mean we should switch that for all devices ... lets not pretend you're gonna hold your laptop up to your face and make a call ... are you? :-) gene +1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2
On 09/24/2011 10:40 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 10:02 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: +1 Did you read the part about trimming posts or is this some strange postmodern joke? poc yes. ;) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2
On 09/19/2011 10:06 AM, JB wrote: Alan Cox alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk writes: ... I do think there is a problem with the Gnome development model and its unwillingness of many of its developers to accept external input as anything but criticism of them personally. The foundation-list is currently involved in a fascinating example where many of the developers are attempting to block and stonewall a third party survey of desktop users and their interests. It reminds me of the behaviour of failing governments that are about to implode before an election is forced - a complete total denial. This is about a GNOME 3 hacker who got lost in life ... --- Give Me Back My Dog... A cowboy named Bud was overseeing his herd in a remote pasture in Texas when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced toward him out of a cloud of dust. The driver, a young man in a Brioni suit, Gucci shoes, RayBan sunglasses and YSL tie, leaned out the window and asked the cowboy, If I tell you exactly how many cows and calves you have in your herd, Will you give me a calf? Bud looks at the man, obviously a yuppie, then looks at his peacefully grazing herd and calmly answers, Sure, Why not? The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dell notebook computer, connects it to his Cingular RAZR V3 cell phone, and surfs to a NASA page on the Internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite to get an exact fix on his location which he then feeds to another NASA satellite that scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo. The young man then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop and exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg , Germany . Within seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilot that the image has been processed and the data stored. He then accesses an MS-SQL database through an ODBC connected Excel spreadsheet with email on his Blackberry and, after a few minutes, receives a response. Finally, he prints out a full-color, 150-page report on his hi-tech, miniaturized HP LaserJet printer, turns to the cowboy and says, You have exactly 1,586 cows and calves. That's right. Well, I guess you can take one of my calves, says Bud. He watches the young man select one of the animals and looks on with amusement as the young man stuffs it into the trunk of his car. Then Bud says to the young man, Hey, if I can tell you exactly what your business is, will you give me back my calf? The young man thinks about it for a second and then says, Okay, why not? You're a GNOME 3 developer, says Bud. Wow! That's correct, says the yuppie, but how did you guess that? No guessing required. answered the cowboy. You showed up here even though nobody called you; you want to get paid for an answer I already knew, to a question I never asked. You used millions of dollars worth of equipment trying to show me how much smarter than me you are; and you don't know a thing about how working people make a living - or about cows, for that matter. This is a herd of sheep. . Now give me back my dog. Reproduced with permission. JB Good tail, JD, but where are the 3-gnomes herd ... dead silence, not even a moo, baa, or woof...? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Need KVM switch
On 09/18/2011 10:59 AM, John Aldrich wrote: On Sat September 17 2011, Robert Myers wrote: On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:38 PM, John Aldrich jmaldr...@yahoo.com wrote: I've got two computers -- a Windows XP machine and a Fedora 15 box. I am sending back the new KVM I bought since it doesn't work at all for my Linux box (just sits there and doesn't detect that it's plugged in.) It also doesn't pass along the unifying receiver for my new wireless keyboard and mouse from Logitech. I need a USB KVM for my Windows machine as I'm currently using a PS2 with an adapter. I think the only reason that is working is because my old Belkin is a powered KVM and doesn't rely on power from the systems. Anyone got a KVM they can recommend? Bonus if it'll share the speakers with multiple computers. :D -- I would not recommend KVM to Fedora users. One version it works, the next version it doesn't. I'm embarrassed to say that I use a Windows machine as my main machine. Cygwin has reached the point where, with care, you can ssh into Fedora and use most x-based applications. I recommend against trying to import the desktop. I import windows (small w). As to sharing speakers, it's an iffy business, no matter what. If you have a modern machine, running Linux virtual under windows is also an attractive option. XP lives on for me as a virtual machine. Bottom line for me: I have given up on KVM and use the various network and virtual options to share. No, I think you misunderstand... I'm not looking for virtualization.. I am looking for a Keyboard/Video/Mouse switch. :D I want VGA, USB and if possible, sound shared. :D I have tried iogear and found it to be worthless! :( My old PS2 Belkin works, but only because it's powered, I think. I tried using a PS2-only iogear KVM Switch, but it wouldn't work with my USB-only Dell machine. :( Just to let you know, that there is a USB to PS2 adapter, and you can go from there. I also use a Belkin PRO 8-port and like Craig said, one has to tread carefully when switching as the mouse/keyboard on Linux can get screwed up unless one clicks the ESC key to synchronize. I am used to it and it is not really a problem for me. As for the audio part, I have built an audio mixer, connected all of my audio-output jacks into the audio mixer and from there into my stereo system. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2
On 09/17/2011 01:28 PM, Alan Cox wrote: I personally think that you GNOME 3 devs are incompetent (I know that there are some who are not happy about the state of it and perhaps will get an upper hand in due time - the sooner the better). That seems uncalled for. Trying to build a new desktop is a large, non trivial project. It doesn't take incompetence to get it badly wrong in places, it's an inevitable part of any big change. The real test will be how well it gets sorted and tidied up. Most of the Gnome 3 developers have done a heck of a lot more work than almost all of the peanut gallery. Alan Has anyone taken a poll from the Fedora Community as to what new directions Gnome-X should be taking BEFORE making such a paradigm shift? Were this a commercial product, you will hearing from your customers who otherwise will drop the product (gnome-3, that is) and seek solace elsewhere. IMO, the peanut-gallery started with Gnome-3, not Gnome-2. I have installed and played with Gnome-3, and my first impressions was: unholy shite! Where in the ruckus has everything gone! Also, my (not that old) desktop ran fine with Gnome-2, but fell into 'fallback-mode' and went from turtle to slug. This left a very bad taste in my mouth and I will not use Gnome-3 as it is. I truly understand Linux Torvald's impressions... what a (bleep!) unholy mess! (paraphrased) I imagine the grief of those who invested into Linux (having ripped out Winbows due to costs) with Gnome-2 installed by default, having to explain to their superiors why they need to update and retrain their people the way of the mobile UI. It seems to me, a LOT of work went into Gnome-3, with the expectation that the Linux community will have to have it ramroded into their throats, mercilessly water boarded without resistance, and their screams silenced... Didn't expect that, did you? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2
On 09/17/2011 03:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 09/17/2011 03:12 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Has anyone taken a poll from the Fedora Community as to what new directions Gnome-X should be taking BEFORE making such a paradigm shift? Why just the Fedora Community? Why not a poll of people using Gnome, no matter what distro? Yes, Fedora's always been Gnome-centric, but it's not exactly the only distro like that, and there are other distros with a large percentage of Gnome users. Ah, yes.. you are right! Thanks for correcting me! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?
For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla does not remove this certificate. If the root CA's cannot be manually removed, Is there a FF rpm that has the fix? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?
On 09/06/2011 08:08 AM, Pasha R wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla does not remove this certificate. If the root CA's cannot be manually removed, Is there a FF rpm that has the fix? Uneducated guess: try running FF as root and then following instructions by mozilla I already explained that the instructions given by Mozilla does not work. You can try to 'delete' DigiNotar per Mozilla's instructions, having done that, and going back to check will show that it still appears. This root CA is a built-in object... so it cannot be deleted. Since there are no updates for end-of-life fedora versions, one may have to backport the ca-certificates packages, since not only Firefox is affected but many others such as Seamonkey, Thunderbird, and many other applications, as Kevin Fenzi wrote. Now... I need to figure out how to do a backport of ca-certificates pkg so if anyone has any idea how this can be done, I am all ears... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?
On 09/06/2011 08:24 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:18, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: Now... I need to figure out how to do a backport of ca-certificates pkg so if anyone has any idea how this can be done, I am all ears... Well, Wikileaks has proved that you can only hide information for so long. So why not relax and enjoy the ride while your financial information and all your transactions are sent almost in the open on the world wide web? (sarcasm). JOKE JOKE FC NOT funny (har har...) ;) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?
On 09/06/2011 08:49 AM, Pasha R wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: On 09/06/2011 08:08 AM, Pasha R wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla does not remove this certificate. If the root CA's cannot be manually removed, Is there a FF rpm that has the fix? Uneducated guess: try running FF as root and then following instructions by mozilla I already explained that the instructions given by Mozilla does not work. You can try to 'delete' DigiNotar per Mozilla's instructions, having done that, and going back to check will show that it still appears. This root CA is a built-in object... so it cannot be deleted. Since there are no updates for end-of-life fedora versions, one may have to backport the ca-certificates packages, since not only Firefox is affected but many others such as Seamonkey, Thunderbird, and many other applications, as Kevin Fenzi wrote. Now... I need to figure out how to do a backport of ca-certificates pkg so if anyone has any idea how this can be done, I am all ears... Instructions (almost) worked for me - CA is still displayed, but if you press Edit trust button, you will see, that all checkboxes are unchecked, so it will not be used for anything. Why do you say: (almost) worked ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?
On 09/06/2011 08:52 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 08:18:34 -0700 Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Now... I need to figure out how to do a backport of ca-certificates pkg so if anyone has any idea how this can be done, I am all ears... My approach would be to download the source RPM for the old fedora, do an rpmbuild -bp, then substitute the certificate data from the source rpm for the new fedora and pick up the rpmbuild after the -bp stage to really make the rpms with the patched certs. I am assuming that I could edit: ca-bundle.crt, remove DigiNotar section, then proceed with a rebuild of Firefox? Does rebuilding of FF (and Thunderbird) pickup ca-bundle.crt for it's root CA? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...
On 09/01/2011 02:18 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 16:01 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: 2. Who thought it was a good idea to make someone put their cursor to the upper left corner in order to switch desktops that are all the way on the right? How is that ergonomic? I actually don't mind doing that for switching apps or bringing up the menu so much but to switch desktops it's really irritating. Richard gnome-shell-extension-righthotcorner-1.0-1.fc15.noarch Apropos: The designer who put the cursor on the upper left corner is a 'lefty' and felt justified. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15
On 08/29/2011 09:23 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 29.08.2011, Dave Cross wrote:
I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1].
Seems nobody likes it (me included). Frankly, Gnome3 is broken by design and
a f*cking piece of cr*p :-)
All the students at my college who use(d) Linux/Gnome2 before have switched,
and
guess how many are using Gnome3 now? Yes, you're right: zero.
Just get over it, and use one of the fine alternatives: XFCE has
always been great, LXDE is slightly buggy but great too, and there
are various other good wm. I personally like ratpoison, awesome and
fluxbox a lot. It hurts a couple of weeks, but then you're done.
I tried both LXDE XFCE, but Desktop/panel (re)configuration
options/features seems limited:
XFCE:
1) Does XFCE allow creation of new panels, left/right/top(or bottom)
with features such as hiding panels which appears only when the
mouse is moved into the screen edges?
I cannot figure out how to add new panels; they appear collapsed,
and only expands with addition of new icons? How can I change the
panel properties to expand these new panels 100%, vertically and/or
horizontally?
2) Since I like to rearrange the icons within my main panel(1),
the workspace being 'centered', the icons adjusted to the
left and/or right of the workspace, the open desktop apps icons
moved to other panels (left/right/{top|bottom} instead of main,
with locks, and the notifications panel to the left of screen and so
on, so do I have this flexibility as Gnome provides? I don't see it.
3) Can I move/drag-drop the icons from one panel into another?
LXDE:
1) I haven't figured out how to shrink the desktop icons, how can
I do this?
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Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15
On 08/30/2011 05:30 AM, gpe wrote: On 08/29/2011 05:23 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1]. I still remember the times when KDE4 was born. It was terrible comparing to 3.5. After a while it was started to evolved, it became more stable and more user friendly. Seems nobody likes it (me included). Frankly, Gnome3 is broken by design and a f*cking piece of cr*p :-) Everybody have the right to hate gnome3, but in my opinion hating won't help. You have couple of options: 1. start to contribute and make it better. 2. wait until someone else makes it better. 3. Jump to different DE. If you choose option 3 then you have several alternatives (in no particular order) : E17, KDE, LXDE, XFCE, gnome2-fork etc. But keep in mind that none of them is perfect, nor suits everybody's needs. There are another options: ;) 4. Multi-boot or Virtual: Keep F13/14 install F15 or greater. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15
On 08/30/2011 12:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/30/2011 11:36 AM, Julius Smith wrote: I found alacarte, gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu, etc., to recover lost functionality. Right now, I'm running XFCE 4.6 on my desktop, but I've used a third-party repo to upgrade my laptop to 4.8. (I'm always a tad more careful with my main box; among other things, when it's time to upgrade Fedora, the laptop always goes first.) The first time I logged in after the upgrade, XFCE asked if I wanted the default desktop or if I preferred copying over my old settings. Naturally, I picked the latter because I'd already gotten things the way I wanted them and saw no reason to repeat the experience. I think it would be a Good Thing for Gnome 3 to do something similar after upgrading from Gnome 2.x. Yes, I realize that there are things, such as desktop icons and the placement of buttons on the bottom panel that can't be carried over but you should at least have the option of having your menus copied over with whatever customizations are still appropriate. Also, if somebody were to write a utility that could look at your old settings and help you get the most important ones working (or, at least, something equivalent working) it would make the transition much easier. Please note: I may not run Gnome any more, or even want to, but that doesn't mean that I'm not willing to make suggestions on how to make it easier for users to adapt to it. Good idea, a Gnome-2 to Gnome-3 migration tool? This might work if done as an upgrade, but can this tool be smart enough to ask if one wishes to import after a fresh install, be it a partition or virtual space? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15
On 08/30/2011 12:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/30/2011 12:30 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: XFCE: 1) Does XFCE allow creation of new panels, left/right/top(or bottom) with features such as hiding panels which appears only when the mouse is moved into the screen edges? Yes, it does. From the Main Menu, go to Preference, Panel. I finally figured it out, and it works by chosing the 'fixed' mode. The tricky part was getting the workspace 'centered' with help of the spacer, expanded option. I was able to get Firefox and Thunderbird around the workspacer. One other issue though, how can I get more workspaces given only 4 x 1 by default - the only option I have is to add more rows, not more columns... I prefer a 10 x 1 format. Thanks! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15
On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, stan wrote: On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:38:16 +0100 Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my F15 system? Or perhaps someone else has already done this work and made GNOME 2 available for F15? An someone else mentioned, the fallback mode of Gnome 3 is similar to Gnome 2. The most helpful page I found was this one: http://www.vuntz.net/journal/post/2011/04/13/gnome-panel-is-dead%2C-long-live-gnome-panel! Uh, the link says: Document not found... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to mount floppy?
On 08/16/2011 11:50 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 8/16/2011 7:52 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: mount -t msdos /dev/fd0u1440 /mnt/floppy See URL: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/fedora-13-mounting-floppy-813466/ Worked for me on F13. Cannot speak for later versions. I am off floppys at this point, but I'd be curious to see if anyone tries this on F14. Paul Ok, I loaded the LiveCD F14, opened a terminal, typed: modprobe floppy, opened Computer icon, the umounted floppy icon appears, inserted the w95 floppy, double-clicked floppy icon, it mounted, displayed w95 contents. So, it worked. Note: if floppy was inserted prior to modprobe, it does not automount - you have to double-click the unmounted floppy in order to see the contents. Older versions of Fedora used to automount the floppy when it was inserted - this feature was removed in later fedora versions, or so it seems. I tried the same for LiveCD F15, did modprobe for which the unmounted floppy icon appeared, but I was not able to mount nor open floppy. This mechanism appears to be broken. Did not try the manual mount as posted in this thread. FWIW, Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to mount floppy?
On 08/17/2011 09:41 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 08/16/2011 11:50 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 8/16/2011 7:52 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: mount -t msdos /dev/fd0u1440 /mnt/floppy See URL: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/fedora-13-mounting-floppy-813466/ Worked for me on F13. Cannot speak for later versions. I am off floppys at this point, but I'd be curious to see if anyone tries this on F14. Paul Ok, I loaded the LiveCD F14, opened a terminal, typed: modprobe floppy, opened Computer icon, the umounted floppy icon appears, inserted the w95 floppy, double-clicked floppy icon, it mounted, displayed w95 contents. So, it worked. Note: if floppy was inserted prior to modprobe, it does not automount - you have to double-click the unmounted floppy in order to see the contents. Older versions of Fedora used to automount the floppy when it was inserted - this feature was removed in later fedora versions, or so it seems. I tried the same for LiveCD F15, did modprobe for which the unmounted floppy icon appeared, but I was not able to mount nor open floppy. This mechanism appears to be broken. Did not try the manual mount as posted in this thread. FWIW, Dan Added info: On reboot, one has to modprobe all over again (F13, 14). Auto-detection of floppy device no longer works, or so it seems. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to mount floppy?
On 08/17/2011 10:01 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: Added info: On reboot, one has to modprobe all over again (F13, 14). Auto-detection of floppy device no longer works, or so it seems. Just run: echo modprobe floppy /etc/rc.local to add that command to rc.local so it is run on every boot. Thanks for the tip! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to mount floppy?
On 08/16/2011 11:34 AM, Jon Ingason wrote: 2011-08-16 19:57, Vinny Onelli skrev: Hello, I installed vmware and now I would like to install windows Me. The windows me CD it is not bootable it came with bootable diskette, vmware to install windows need the operating system which is on the floppy. The problem is that I could not mount the floppy, (I am using Fedora 14) I try few suggested away in the past with no result. Is the floppy supported in Fc14? and if it is I would appreciate direction of how to, thank you in advance. Vinny Do amodprobe floppy first. Then you get the floppy device in /dev: /dev/fd0u1040 /dev/fd0u1120 /dev/fd0u1440 /dev/fd0u1600 /dev/fd0u1680 /dev/fd0u1722 /dev/fd0u1743 /dev/fd0u1760 /dev/fd0u1840 /dev/fd0u1920 /dev/fd0u360 /dev/fd0u720 /dev/fd0u800 /dev/fd0u820 /dev/fd0u830 Now you can create the directory /mnt/floppy and mount your floppy to that point: mount -t msdos /dev/fd0u1440 /mnt/floppy See URL: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/fedora-13-mounting-floppy-813466/ Worked for me on F13. Cannot speak for later versions. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Gnome Q: Application window save-data for restore when reopened?
I am sorry if this question was asked before, but I was wondering why is it, that most app- lication's main window do not restore it's last save-data the next time it is opened? What I am talking about is window position and size data, but not limited to these only. How many times does an application have to be repositioned resized every time it is opened? We do have a startup session save for apps that supports session-saves, and restores saved apps to its last position, size, workspace locations. (BTW, as of F13, session-saves do not work well.) In any case, session-saves are for applications that will be restored when a new session is opened. But this is a different application for a specific purpose. If I am not being clear, let me try to explain. Let's take an application such as Totem. Now if one opens Totem, one notes that this app positions itself at the top-left corner with a rather large window size. Annoyed, totem is repositioned, resized for viewing pleasure. Now, I am done with totem, I closed it. Later in time, I decided to open Totem again, and the behaviour is exactly the same as before, top-left and a large window size. Drat! If there was window-app save-data, the next time Totem opened, apps window would obtain the save- data and reposition and resize the app is exactly as it was the last time it was opened. Further, is there a Gnome application design framework, that includes built-in support for application save-data which include things as position, size, workspace location session-save hooks, and any window specific save-data so that designers will automatically have this code when developing new windows applications? (Yeah, dream on?) It would also be nice if this was standardized, so that a Desktop configuration tool would recognize these apps and allow for Global User property changes saved either in the the global or user's (~/.config database) or whatever is appropriate. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Bash: (foo==0)?foo=1:foo=0 valid?
I seem to forget my shell programming but is the following statement valid? ($foo==0)?foo=1:foo=0 I thought it was called the tristate conditional operator but in any case I could not find it in google. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bash: (foo==0)?foo=1:foo=0 valid?
On 07/02/2011 11:30 AM, Robert Nichols wrote: On 07/02/2011 12:45 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I seem to forget my shell programming but is the following statement valid? ($foo==0)?foo=1:foo=0 I thought it was called the tristate conditional operator but in any case I could not find it in google. You need to enclose the entire expression in double parentheses to make bash parse it as an expression. Plus, your syntax is slightly wrong: ((($foo==0)?foo=1:0)) or, since within an expression the '$' to reference a variable is optional: (((foo==0)?foo=1:0)) and, if you want to insert the result directly into a command line: echo $(((foo==0)?1:0)) or echo $(((foo==0)?foo=1:0)) Thanks - this is good information! I used: (((foo==0)?foo=1:0)) and it works in a bash script! Will add this to my bookmarks! :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bash: (foo==0)?foo=1:foo=0 valid?
On 07/02/2011 02:15 PM, Robert Nichols wrote: On 07/02/2011 02:11 PM, inode0 wrote: On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Daniel B. Thurmand...@cdkkt.com wrote: I used: (((foo==0)?foo=1:0)) and it works in a bash script! I don't think that is quite the same as what I'm guessing your original attempt intended. In this case if foo does not equal 0 to begin with it won't be set to 0. Perhaps that doesn't matter in your particular case. Indeed, I got it wrong too. Looks like it needs to be: (((foo==0)?(foo=1):(foo=0))) Frankly, I don't think I'll be using that syntax much. Too many ways to get it wrong. Yeah, you guys are correct, it does not toggle which was my intent. So I basically went back to the trusty if-else-fi statement of which anyone can read without much obscurity. :P Thanks to all, for contributing! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: frozen gnome 3 desktop
On 06/24/2011 11:18 AM, L wrote: On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak m...@avtechpulse.com wrote: After upgraded to fedora 15, most are working well. The gnome 3 desktop are weired. It frequently freeze, not responding to mouse or keyboard. I have to login a virtual term (alt+ctrl+F2) to restart gdm (init 3; init 5). I checked Xorg.0.log file and output of dmesg, I can't spot any hint. Any one experienced this or where is find a fix? thanks I've done 2 desktop upgrades. One worked fine. One had the problems you described (frequent freezes), so I had to downgrade it back to F14. Three server upgrades have gone well, but they don't have gnome3, of course. Not very helpful, but another data point anyway... temperately I use classic gnome instead of gnome 3. It seems working ok with classic gnome How did you get classic gnome on F15? Was this done using LiveCD or after installing F15 on the HD then doing a Gnome downgrade? I would like the details if that is ok? I was checking out F15 LiveCD on an older system and Gnome3 popped up an error message saying that it failed, however, clicking 'Close' on the error popup continues on and I was able to log in. I can do a few things but then after a time (about 5 minutes or so), the system completely hangs. So, I did not want to attempt an install at this point. F14 works on my old system with 384MB RAM, although it runs slow. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13+: Has anyone been able to get jackd to run with pulseaudio?
On 05/22/2011 02:10 PM, Brendan Jones wrote: On 05/23/2011 05:54 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Maybe others could chime in and tell us how to discover what the audio device ought to be, as derived through the use of lsXXX or some other command. I tried 'Hardware Lister' but no dice. Chritopher Antill has provided Fedora with some really useful here: /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7/README.Fedora and here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/pdf/Musicians_Guide/Fedora-14-Musicians_Guide-en-US.pdf Specifically do cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [XFi]: SB-XFi - Creative X-Fi Creative X-Fi 20K1 SB073x 1 [U25]: USB-Audio - USB Axiom 25 M-Audio USB Axiom 25 at usb-:00:13.5-2.1, full speed And use the name in brackets in place of the card number ie in this case hw:XFi regards Brendan Awesome! Thanks for the tip! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13+: Has anyone been able to get jackd to run with pulseaudio?
On 05/21/2011 09:20 PM, JD wrote: On 05/21/11 19:44, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 05/21/2011 04:20 PM, JD wrote: On 05/21/11 15:03, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I searched everywhere on the Internet and found lots of people complaining that PCM could not be opened, thus terminating jackd. Here is what I an getting from starting jackd via qjackctl: $ jackd -d alsa jackd 0.118.0 Copyright 2001-2009 Paul Davis, Stephane Letz, Jack O'Quinn, Torben Hohn and others. jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details Memory locking is unlimited - this is dangerous. You should probably alter the line: @audio - memlockunlimited in your /etc/limits.conf to read: @audio - memlock1540245 JACK compiled with System V SHM support. loading driver .. creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit control device hw:0 ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to capture-only mode configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames (21.3 ms), buffer = 2 periods ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 16bit little-endian ALSA: use 2 periods for capture impossible sample width (1) discovered! I have tried everything, including the kitchen sink and cannot seem to get jackd running. I had tried some months ago. I gave up because it ended up screwing up my audio so I could no longer get sound out. The hard part is finding a site that tells you step-by-step what exactly needs to be done. I had to cobble bits and pieces together from different Internet postings to get it to work, as many are for older versions of jack and/or pulseaudio and for different distros - so I used Ubuntu/Fedora distros to assemble it specifically for F13. From memory, I recall: 1) yum install pulseaudio-module-jack alsa-plugins-jack jack-audio-connection-kit 2) Add the user to audio, jackuser, pulse, pulse-access 3) echo autospawn = no ~/.pulse/client.conf 4) cp /etc/pulse/default.pa ~/.pulse/pulsejack.pa Edit and add after the below commented out line: #load-module module-pipe-sink load-module module-jack-source load-module module-jack-sink 5) reboot Sorry that I cannot locate the specific links where I found all of the pieces... But once the basic configuration is done for both jack and pulse audio, then one can proceed to use qjackctl tool. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToJACKConfiguration I found that jack has to be tuned to make sure that there is the proper latency settings (mine is @ ~25ms, and you can easily do this with the jack tool: qjackctl and keeping an eye on minimizing the Xruns, which determines the optimal latency setting for your system. I have tried Hydrogen, MuseScore, Rosegarden and these seem to work well. For fun. I had Amarok running and at the same time Hydrogen Jazz drums running and it was odd, but interesting. Some notes: 1) Be careful not to checkbox the qjackctl-Misc:Start jack audioserver on application startup as it hung qjackctl and jackd. If that happens, then you have to blow away: ~/.config/rncbc.org/QjackCtl.conf file and start all over with the proper settings. I could not locate the auto??? entry in this file. 2) Make SURE you get the correct qjackctl-Settings:Interface value for your audio hardware or you get: 'Cannot find PCM... cryptic error. I hope I got it all here (crossing fingers) My audio is a cheapo 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0) Not sure if it is supported, and wondering if that is the reason why it had not worked for me the first time. Perhaps, but one won't know until one has checked it out for oneself, right? I had a difficult time trying to figure out what the audio device ought to be via lsXXX commands, but it did not reveal anything to me, and yet, the qjackctl Interface gives a drop-down list of choices: such as: (default), hw:0, plughw:0, /dev/audio, and /dev/dsp. But I note that there are sub-values such as hw:X,Y, but I did not have to deal with this, as explained below, but also keep in mind that it may be possible that all the clues in this drop-down list is not restricted to this list, but I do not know. So, I played around with: hw:0 and check to see 'what happens if I changed the hw:0 value hw:1' and lo! it worked! So it was luck in this case. Maybe others could chime in and tell us how to discover what the audio device ought to be, as derived through the use of lsXXX or some other command. I tried 'Hardware Lister' but no dice. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13+: Has anyone been able to get jackd to run with pulseaudio?
I searched everywhere on the Internet and found lots of people complaining that PCM could not be opened, thus terminating jackd. Here is what I an getting from starting jackd via qjackctl: $ jackd -d alsa jackd 0.118.0 Copyright 2001-2009 Paul Davis, Stephane Letz, Jack O'Quinn, Torben Hohn and others. jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details Memory locking is unlimited - this is dangerous. You should probably alter the line: @audio - memlockunlimited in your /etc/limits.conf to read: @audio - memlock1540245 JACK compiled with System V SHM support. loading driver .. creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit control device hw:0 ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to capture-only mode configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames (21.3 ms), buffer = 2 periods ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 16bit little-endian ALSA: use 2 periods for capture impossible sample width (1) discovered! I have tried everything, including the kitchen sink and cannot seem to get jackd running. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13+: Has anyone been able to get jackd to run with pulseaudio?
On 05/21/2011 03:03 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I searched everywhere on the Internet and found lots of people complaining that PCM could not be opened, thus terminating jackd. Here is what I an getting from starting jackd via qjackctl: $ jackd -d alsa jackd 0.118.0 Copyright 2001-2009 Paul Davis, Stephane Letz, Jack O'Quinn, Torben Hohn and others. jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details Memory locking is unlimited - this is dangerous. You should probably alter the line: @audio - memlockunlimited in your /etc/limits.conf to read: @audio - memlock1540245 JACK compiled with System V SHM support. loading driver .. creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit control device hw:0 ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to capture-only mode configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames (21.3 ms), buffer = 2 periods ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 16bit little-endian ALSA: use 2 periods for capture impossible sample width (1) discovered! I have tried everything, including the kitchen sink and cannot seem to get jackd running Never mind! I figured out what the issue was... Instead of using hw:0 it should have been hw:1 Sorry for the noise! :P -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13+: Has anyone been able to get jackd to run with pulseaudio?
On 05/21/2011 04:20 PM, JD wrote: On 05/21/11 15:03, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I searched everywhere on the Internet and found lots of people complaining that PCM could not be opened, thus terminating jackd. Here is what I an getting from starting jackd via qjackctl: $ jackd -d alsa jackd 0.118.0 Copyright 2001-2009 Paul Davis, Stephane Letz, Jack O'Quinn, Torben Hohn and others. jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details Memory locking is unlimited - this is dangerous. You should probably alter the line: @audio - memlockunlimited in your /etc/limits.conf to read: @audio - memlock1540245 JACK compiled with System V SHM support. loading driver .. creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit control device hw:0 ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to capture-only mode configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames (21.3 ms), buffer = 2 periods ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 16bit little-endian ALSA: use 2 periods for capture impossible sample width (1) discovered! I have tried everything, including the kitchen sink and cannot seem to get jackd running. I had tried some months ago. I gave up because it ended up screwing up my audio so I could no longer get sound out. The hard part is finding a site that tells you step-by-step what exactly needs to be done. I had to cobble bits and pieces together from different Internet postings to get it to work, as many are for older versions of jack and/or pulseaudio and for different distros - so I used Ubuntu/Fedora distros to assemble it specifically for F13. From memory, I recall: 1) yum install pulseaudio-module-jack alsa-plugins-jack jack-audio-connection-kit 2) Add the user to audio, jackuser, pulse, pulse-access 3) echo autospawn = no ~/.pulse/client.conf 4) cp /etc/pulse/default.pa ~/.pulse/pulsejack.pa Edit and add after the below commented out line: #load-module module-pipe-sink load-module module-jack-source load-module module-jack-sink 5) reboot Sorry that I cannot locate the specific links where I found all of the pieces... But once the basic configuration is done for both jack and pulse audio, then one can proceed to use qjackctl tool. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToJACKConfiguration I found that jack has to be tuned to make sure that there is the proper latency settings (mine is @ ~25ms, and you can easily do this with the jack tool: qjackctl and keeping an eye on minimizing the Xruns, which determines the optimal latency setting for your system. I have tried Hydrogen, MuseScore, Rosegarden and these seem to work well. For fun. I had Amarok running and at the same time Hydrogen Jazz drums running and it was odd, but interesting. Some notes: 1) Be careful not to checkbox the qjackctl-Misc:Start jack audioserver on application startup as it hung qjackctl and jackd. If that happens, then you have to blow away: ~/.config/rncbc.org/QjackCtl.conf file and start all over with the proper settings. I could not locate the auto??? entry in this file. 2) Make SURE you get the correct qjackctl-Settings:Interface value for your audio hardware or you get: 'Cannot find PCM... cryptic error. I hope I got it all here (crossing fingers) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13: Samba smbd spewing out ton's of 'host name/address mismatch' log messages
I searched everywhere for a resolution to this issue and have not found any that worked. This issue seemed to go as far back to F9. The samba smbd (matchname/get_peer_name) seems to have issues with ip4 to ip6 mapping. May 19 08:17:59 l-host smbd[18651]: [2011/05/19 08:17:59.113572, 0] lib/util_sock.c:1514(matchname) May 19 08:17:59 l-host smbd[18651]: matchname: host name/address mismatch: :::10.1.0.1 != r-host.domain.com May 19 08:17:59 l-host smbd[18651]: [2011/05/19 08:17:59.113936, 0] lib/util_sock.c:1635(get_peer_name) May 19 08:17:59 l-host smbd[18651]: Matchname failed on r-host.domain.com :::10.1.0.1 Any ideas how to shut this message up? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: Samba smbd spewing out ton's of 'host name/address mismatch' log messages
On 05/19/2011 05:26 PM, Tom H wrote: On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: I searched everywhere for a resolution to this issue and have not found any that worked. This issue seemed to go as far back to F9. The samba smbd (matchname/get_peer_name) seems to have issues with ip4 to ip6 mapping. May 19 08:17:59 l-host smbd[18651]: [2011/05/19 08:17:59.113572, 0] lib/util_sock.c:1514(matchname) May 19 08:17:59 l-host smbd[18651]: matchname: host name/address mismatch: :::10.1.0.1 != r-host.domain.com May 19 08:17:59 l-host smbd[18651]: [2011/05/19 08:17:59.113936, 0] lib/util_sock.c:1635(get_peer_name) May 19 08:17:59 l-host smbd[18651]: Matchname failed on r-host.domain.com :::10.1.0.1 You can disable ipv6 for samba by adding the following to smb.conf: bind interfaces only = yes interfaces = 127.0.0.1 host_ip_address Thanks! It worked! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Firefox 4 ?
On 05/02/2011 08:21 AM, Tony Foster wrote: On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 08:43 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: On 03/24/2011 08:04 AM, Jim wrote: When will Firefox 4 be coming to Fedora 14 ? It works very well. Download from mozilla.org and put it in ~/firefox. Run it from there and set it to be your default browser and that's that. -- -- Steve When I unpacked the download none of the shell files were executable. I assume that I need to add executable permission to some of the executable files to run from home directory? Did anyone figure out how to make the refresh Bookmark-v icons appear permanently, instead of disappearing or hiding underneath the URL? I tried everything I could and both of these icons wants to hide itself once customization was completed by pressing Done. I even created a new toolbar, moved these icons therein, and that does not work either. Another one of these 'smart' moves ends up confusing the heck out of users... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Firefox 4 ?
On 05/04/2011 12:38 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: On 05/04/2011 11:52 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Did anyone figure out how to make the refresh Bookmark-v icons appear permanently, instead of disappearing or hiding underneath the URL? I tried everything I could and both of these icons wants to hide itself once customization was completed by pressing Done. I even created a new toolbar, moved these icons therein, and that does not work either. Another one of these 'smart' moves ends up confusing the heck out of users... The Stop Refresh buttons are magic in that they merge if Stop is placed right behind Reload. Also, if Reload is placed right after the location bar, they both will collapse INTO the location bar and merge with the Go button. To prevent both behaviors, just swap the positions of Stop and Reload and they shouldn't hide anymore. Or add a separator -- it should do the same thing. Not sure about bookmarks button; I prefer to use the bookmark toolbar I did all of that, swapping, separators, moved into a separate toolbar, etc. Nothing worked. I read the complaints @ Mozilla over these issues before I posted.. and none of the suggestions worked. So, I reverted back to the previous FF version. I will wait for FF to get more tested before I attempt to use it again. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13: Nautilus menu item: Compress... does not work?
I tied to compress a folder and its subs into an archive using the Nautilus menu Compress... but it returns the following error message: An error occurred while adding files to the archive. No such file or directory Am I doing something wrong or is this menu item broken? Thanks- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Mouse-wheel nudge left-right now generates key-presses, not buttons 6+7
On 03/31/2011 04:58 AM, Neil Bird wrote: Since upgrading to Fedora 14 from 12, I'm seeing my wheel-mouse generating the *key* presses Left and Right instead of the expected button clicks button-6 and button-7. This means that while it still works in, say, Firefox (where Left and Right scroll the current view), and I can move my caret left and right (!), it won't work anywhere else like it used to (e.g., directory tree views). Any ideas how I can get the old functionality back? # xorg.conf snippet Section InputDevice # generated from data in /etc/sysconfig/mouse Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/input/mice Option Emulate3Buttons no Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection # /etc/sysconfig/mouse FULLNAME=Generic - 3 Button Mouse (PS/2) MOUSETYPE=imps2 XEMU3=no XMOUSETYPE=IMPS/2 DEVICE=/dev/input/mice I hope this thread is on-topic or at least related? I am looking at F13 and /etc/sysconfig/mouse and /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist but /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ does exist, but only one file: 00-system-setup-keyboard.conf exist, and there is nothing related to the mouse, AFAIK? What I am experiencing is, at least with Mozilla's Firefox Thunderbird, the mouse thumbwheel is behaving erratically when scrolling past the top of the page or scrolling past the bottom of the page (in FF TB) and behaves as if the next/previous buttons were pressed. Is this related to changeover from the old xinput system to the evdev system, as Tom Horsley mentioned in his reply to this post? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13: Acroread (Adobe reader) on FF crashes with a defunct process.
Opening a PDF file within Firefox for the first time does start acroread and one can view a PDF document, however, it causes a defunct process preventing other PDF files from being viewed. As far as I can tell, I have to reboot to clear the defunct process before being able to use FF for PDF viewing. Outside of FF, PDF files can be viewed and no defunct processes are created, which leads me to believe that the problem is with FF. ps -aux | grep acroread me 4277 2.3 0.0 0 0 ?Z10:25 0:25 [acroread] defunct Latest versions: Fedora 2.6.34.8-68.fc13.i686 AdobeReader_enu-9.4.2-1.i486 firefox-3.6.16-1.fc13.i686 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: Acroread (Adobe reader) on FF crashes with a defunct process.
On 03/29/2011 11:38 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/29/2011 11:09 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: ps -aux | grep acroread me 4277 2.3 0.0 0 0 ?Z10:25 0:25 [acroread]defunct kill -9 4277 gets rid of it. Or, simply use this: killall -9 accoread and Bob's your uncle. HTH, HAND. Yeah, that kills the process, but does not fix the problem. If I killed the process (4277), then tried to read a FF PDF document again, process 4277 reappears as defunct. It turns out that Firefox was gnome session saved when rebooted and on start up restored 10 FF minimized windows and I did not notice this until now. The problem is, the restore of the 10 FF sessions were munged. So I cleared/killed all the FF gnome session saves and rebooted. Everything is now back to normal. Thanks for leading me towards the problem. Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora/3.6.14-1.fc13 Firefox/3.6.14 youTube colors are mostly red/yellow, how to reset?
On 03/09/2011 04:50 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: The last two updates seems to have messed up the color palette for FF YouTube videos. All I see are mostly red/yellow colors. I checked my movie players my webcam and they all seem to work properly, its just that youTube on FF does not work at all. I tried Epipany and it works. Is it a FF bug? In FF, if one goes directly to youTube and runs a video, settings are locked out, hardware acceleration is on, and colors are screwed up. Also, if one goes into full-screen, it hangs the display, You cannot escape back to original screen (minimized) settings. Is anyone else having problems with FF? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora/3.6.14-1.fc13 Firefox/3.6.14 youTube colors are mostly red/yellow, how to reset?
On 03/09/2011 06:31 PM, Chris Smart wrote: On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: The last two updates seems to have messed up the color palette for FF YouTube videos. All I see are mostly red/yellow colors. Hardware acceleration on Flash? Right click, disable. -c Apparently, FF Flash settings are greyed out, It is not settable. Something is seriously wrong with FF Flash/YouTube. Not a problem with Epiphany web browser. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Fedora/3.6.14-1.fc13 Firefox/3.6.14 youTube colors are mostly red/yellow, how to reset?
The last two updates seems to have messed up the color palette for FF YouTube videos. All I see are mostly red/yellow colors. I checked my movie players my webcam and they all seem to work properly, its just that youTube on FF does not work at all. I tried Epipany and it works. Is it a FF bug? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?
On 12/28/2010 01:26 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 20:39 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I noticed that F13, Firefox v3.6.13 seems to have trouble with the thumb-wheel as it is supposed to scroll the page up or down, but instead, changes to the previous or next page. Does anyone have this problem? Do you have a shift key stuck down? The mouse wheel can do different things with the browser, depending on the keyboard modifiers. Well, it is not a static issue, the problem is intermittent. I do get page up/down but if you flip the wheel up or down quickly (fast scroll), then the page jumps - it is very annoying. I cannot rely on the as of the last FF or something updated recently that affected the thumb-wheel behaviour. I cannot put my finger on what the problem is... (pun intended) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?
On 12/28/2010 09:23 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 12/28/2010 01:26 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 20:39 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I noticed that F13, Firefox v3.6.13 seems to have trouble with the thumb-wheel as it is supposed to scroll the page up or down, but instead, changes to the previous or next page. Does anyone have this problem? Do you have a shift key stuck down? The mouse wheel can do different things with the browser, depending on the keyboard modifiers. Well, it is not a static issue, the problem is intermittent. I do get page up/down but if you flip the wheel up or down quickly (fast scroll), then the page jumps - it is very annoying. I cannot rely on the as of the last FF or something updated recently that affected the thumb-wheel behaviour. I cannot put my finger on what the problem is... (pun intended) Uh oh... I guess it is not application specific... in fact, I get this strange behaviour even with other applications that support panes and scrollbars. If using Thunderbird, I notice that when I have an opened email message, moving the mouse over to the All Folders pane on the left column, scrolling down to the bottom of the list (has a scrollbar) and keep scrolling fast (even when there is no more to scroll), changes the focus from the All Folders pane the opened email message pane sometimes back. It seems as if the mouse driver is getting mixed events somehow. How do I debug/resolve this sort of issue? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?
On 12/28/2010 09:36 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 12/28/2010 09:23 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 12/28/2010 01:26 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 20:39 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I noticed that F13, Firefox v3.6.13 seems to have trouble with the thumb-wheel as it is supposed to scroll the page up or down, but instead, changes to the previous or next page. Does anyone have this problem? Do you have a shift key stuck down? The mouse wheel can do different things with the browser, depending on the keyboard modifiers. Well, it is not a static issue, the problem is intermittent. I do get page up/down but if you flip the wheel up or down quickly (fast scroll), then the page jumps - it is very annoying. I cannot rely on the as of the last FF or something updated recently that affected the thumb-wheel behaviour. I cannot put my finger on what the problem is... (pun intended) Uh oh... I guess it is not application specific... in fact, I get this strange behaviour even with other applications that support panes and scrollbars. If using Thunderbird, I notice that when I have an opened email message, moving the mouse over to the All Folders pane on the left column, scrolling down to the bottom of the list (has a scrollbar) and keep scrolling fast (even when there is no more to scroll), changes the focus from the All Folders pane the opened email message pane sometimes back. It seems as if the mouse driver is getting mixed events somehow. How do I debug/resolve this sort of issue Ok, I get it. It seems to be restricted to Mozilla apps, that is, Firefox and Thunderbird. I tried other applications (Nautilus, Python, GTK, Qt)) to see if I get the same thumb-wheel anomalies and I am not. Hope this narrows down the problem... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?
On 12/28/2010 02:11 PM, Tim wrote: Tim: Do you have a shift key stuck down? The mouse wheel can do different things with the browser, depending on the keyboard modifiers. Daniel B. Thurman: Well, it is not a static issue, the problem is intermittent. I do get page up/down but if you flip the wheel up or down quickly (fast scroll), then the page jumps - it is very annoying. Is it a mouse with extra buttons on the side? Perhaps one's become extremely sensitive to touch. It is a Logitech, M110, 2-button, Optical Mouse But like I said, Mozilla (FF/TB) seem to be affected, and nothing else, AFAIK. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?
On 12/28/2010 02:48 PM, James Mckenzie wrote: Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Tim: Do you have a shift key stuck down? The mouse wheel can do different things with the browser, depending on the keyboard modifiers. Daniel B. Thurman: Well, it is not a static issue, the problem is intermittent. I do get page up/down but if you flip the wheel up or down quickly (fast scroll), then the page jumps - it is very annoying. Is it a mouse with extra buttons on the side? Perhaps one's become extremely sensitive to touch. If you were to call this in, the company would come back with 'this is normal behavior' and close it out, because IT IS. I get the same thing on my Mac if I attempt to 'quick scroll' with the trackpad. No pretty, but that is how it works. James McKenzie As it turns out, somehow the mouse driver was in an unstable state, because when I rebooted the system, the problem went away. What was happening was that when I scrolled FF or TB to the bottom with the thumb-wheel, and then scrolled up, one notch - it went into a behaviour that either changed something in another page (instead of scrolling up in the page where the mouse focus is) or opened something else in yet another pane. I think this is not normal behaviour, but I could be wrong. But for now, I do not have this problem after rebooting, so I will not pursue this issue any further, but interestingly - it only happens with FF TB. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?
I noticed that F13, Firefox v3.6.13 seems to have trouble with the thumb-wheel as it is supposed to scroll the page up or down, but instead, changes to the previous or next page. Does anyone have this problem? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13: Samba nmbd errors?
Trying to make sense of this from the system logs: Dec 5 12:34:33 host smbd[14773]: matchname: host name/address mismatch: :::10.1.0.30 != host2.domain.com Dec 5 12:34:33 host smbd[14773]: [2010/12/05 12:34:33.001691, 0] lib/util_sock.c:1626(get_peer_name) Dec 5 12:34:33 host smbd[14773]: Matchname failed on host2.domain.com :::10.1.0.30 Dec 5 12:34:45 host smbd[14773]: [2010/12/05 12:34:45.422991, 0] lib/util_sock.c:474(read_fd_with_timeout) Dec 5 12:34:45 host smbd[14773]: [2010/12/05 12:34:45.423104, 0] lib/util_sock.c:1432(get_peer_addr_internal) Dec 5 12:34:45 host smbd[14773]: getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected Dec 5 12:34:45 host smbd[14773]: read_fd_with_timeout: client 0.0.0.0 read error = Connection reset by peer. 10.1.0.30 is a DHCP IP address for host2, and host2 is a Win7 Home OS that is not joined to a domain server, rather it is a WORKGROUP, so perhaps the WINS server does not recognize it as such as hence the error? These messages clutters up the logs fairly heavily, so how how can I get around this? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13: ClamAV: Why does clamd not appear SystemAdministrationServices list?
I was surprised, but why does clamd not appear in the services list for activation? Side question: does anyone use clamav, is it recommended or worth installing? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: ClamAV: Why does clamd not appear SystemAdministrationServices list?
On 10/22/2010 03:57 PM, Chris Smart wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: I was surprised, but why does clamd not appear in the services list for activation? I've never seen such a service, are you sure that there is meant to be one? Well, that was what I was asking... it was odd because I thought it was in the services list in F9, but you could be right, maybe it never was! I guess I am getting a bit woozy with my memory banks. :) I got an email message saying that clamav to fix the freshclam file in /etc/ and /etc/sysconfig/ so all is well. To get clamd (clamav-server) working, I wrote a script to set up an instance of it: http://blog.christophersmart.com/2009/12/17/script-for-configuring-clamav-server-on-fedora/ I do hope there's a better way to do it, so if you know of/discover one, please let us know Side question: does anyone use clamav, is it recommended or worth installing? We use clamd at work to bulk scan files that come in, and it's useful for integration into mail servers, etc. clamscan is useful for fixing people's Windows machines :-) -c Thanks for confirming and the additional info! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: rsync or dd to clone a hard drive?
On 10/06/2010 10:06 AM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: On 6 Oct 2010 at 10:58, Maxime Alarie wrote: Subject: rsync or dd to clone a hard drive? Date sent:Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:58:50 -0400 From: Maxime Alarie mala...@processia.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Send reply to:Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org?subject=unsubscribe mailto:users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org?subject=subscribe I have never used dd to clone a hard disk. I use rsync for a lot of my backups , and I was wondering what would be the best tool to clone a disk. I don’t want 3rd party software also. I want built in command line tools. I know rsync will resync where it left off if I encounter a problem, what about dd? Do I absolutely have to creat an image before cloning? Ex: dd if=/dev/sda of=sda.img or I can use dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb? I'm the maintainer of the g4l project that is a disk imaging program. It is usually used to boot a machine from the cd with a ramdisk, and then can make local or network images using dd and compress. Note: this is a full disk or full partition images. Not a file or directory level image. It also has an option to clone, which is a similar process to you dd option going from one disk to another. ftp://amd64gcc.dyndns.org/g4l-v0.35alpha19.iso ftp://amd64gcc.dyndns.org/g4l-v0.35a19.devel.tar.gz or released version on sourceforge. Thanks. +--+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor Guam Community College Computer Center mailto:mi...@kuentos.guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com http://www.guam.net/home/mikes Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ +--+ http://setiathome.berkeley.edu (Original) Number of Seti Units Returned: 19,471 Processing time: 32 years, 290 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes (Total Hours: 287,489) bo...@home CREDITS SETI10009860.871197 | EINSTEIN 4660449.360851 ROSETTA 2297938.485565 | ABC 2771227.136067 Just wondering... 1) How does 4GL compare with Clonezilla? 2) Why aren't backup/restore/image/clone programs such as (1) above integrated into LiveCDs that have most the Linux core, GUI, Network, ..., support? For the moment, I use rsync for linux copy/clones/moves from source to target partitions for the same hardware, and it works. I do these steps: (1) Boot with LiveCD (2) # rsync -ahHAX source target Notes: (a) Optionally add 'z' argument if you want compression and add 'v' if you want to see verbosity at the expense of transfer speed. (b) Abruptly stopped? No problem, run the above command again. (c) source and/or target can be remote devices but they have to be mounted. The source ought not be an active running OS, can be mounted to /mnt via LiveCD. The hardware for the source target ought to be exactly the same if one expects the target OS to be bootable after transfer has completed. I have done this with (a) remote backup source to target and (b) between two identical laptops transfers via LiveCD on both, and it works. (d) I have not tried to create an rsync image. If it were possible to create an rsync image with with FULL acls/permissions/..., how would it be possible to perform an rsync restore? I have not tried this. (3) Setting MBR on boot or / (boot integrated) partitions: # grub find /grub/stage1 (or /grub/grub.cfg) root (hX,Y) setup (hX,Y) quit (4) # touch /.autorelabel; reboot (for SELinux) FWIW, Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Email problem undeliverable
On 09/24/2010 09:07 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:51:33 -0700, Daniel wrote: Additional info that I received: This is the mail system at host lists.fedoraproject.org. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system users@lists.fedoraproject.org: mail forwarding loop for users@lists.fedoraproject.org context of email message here The part you deleted (= context of email message here) is the interesting one, since it includes the headers of the message that caused trouble. There's some server in Germany involved. Hmm.. I will reply to this message and see if I get the same message again, and if I do, I will forward that message back to this list. What I noticed in the snipped part was that it was basically the message I sent out, only that it was text-compressed together and somewhat mangled. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Email problem undeliverable
On 09/24/2010 09:48 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 09/24/2010 09:07 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:51:33 -0700, Daniel wrote: Additional info that I received: This is the mail system at host lists.fedoraproject.org. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system users@lists.fedoraproject.org: mail forwarding loop for users@lists.fedoraproject.org context of email message here The part you deleted (= context of email message here) is the interesting one, since it includes the headers of the message that caused trouble. There's some server in Germany involved. Hmm.. I will reply to this message and see if I get the same message again, and if I do, I will forward that message back to this list. What I noticed in the snipped part was that it was basically the message I sent out, only that it was text-compressed together and somewhat mangled. OK, I no longer got the undeliverable errors anymore - seems the problem are now fixed? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13: Unable to mount ntfs-3g, option: 'context=' no longer supported?
Some weeks ago, I have installed F13 on a system and for some time, I have successfully mounted all of my partitions as defined in my fstab file. But today, I have rebooted this F13 system and for some reason, it was unable to mount any of my ntfs filesystems with an error message: ntfs-3g-mount: Invalid argument, for each ntfs partition defined in the /etc/fstab. I can manually mount a ntfs-3g partition to /mnt, I can see the contents and context and every thing seems fine for this ntfs partition. I did: # mount /dev/sdaX /mnt (it works) # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdaX /mnt (it works) # mount -t ntfs-3g -o context=system_u:object_r:samba_share_t:s0 /dev/sdaX /mnt (breaks!) The problem is that the context=XXX option is no longer recognized, or so it seems. The fstab entry breaks as well for ntfs: LABEL=Ap1WD1 /md/Ap1WD1 ntfs-3g context=system_u:object_r:samba_share_t:s0 0 0 So what is the problem? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Email problem undeliverable
On 09/22/2010 03:25 PM, Michael Miles wrote: Every email that I send to the address comes back undeliverable Just to this site??? Michael I am having the same problem. Is there anything we need to do or is this something that will be fixed and we do not have to do anything? What I noticed is that when I send a new/reply message to the fedora user list, I am not getting any confirmation emails that my messages was accepted, even though I do see my emails appearing on the website digest list. Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Email problem undeliverable
On 09/23/2010 08:46 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 09/22/2010 03:25 PM, Michael Miles wrote: Every email that I send to the address comes back undeliverable Just to this site??? Michael I am having the same problem. Is there anything we need to do or is this something that will be fixed and we do not have to do anything? What I noticed is that when I send a new/reply message to the fedora user list, I am not getting any confirmation emails that my messages was accepted, even though I do see my emails appearing on the website digest list. Dan Additional info that I received: This is the mail system at host lists.fedoraproject.org. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system users@lists.fedoraproject.org: mail forwarding loop for users@lists.fedoraproject.org context of email message here -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: Unable to mount ntfs-3g, option: 'context=' no longer supported?
On 09/23/2010 07:53 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Some weeks ago, I have installed F13 on a system and for some time, I have successfully mounted all of my partitions as defined in my fstab file. But today, I have rebooted this F13 system and for some reason, it was unable to mount any of my ntfs filesystems with an error message: ntfs-3g-mount: Invalid argument, for each ntfs partition defined in the /etc/fstab. I can manually mount a ntfs-3g partition to /mnt, I can see the contents and context and every thing seems fine for this ntfs partition. I did: # mount /dev/sdaX /mnt (it works) # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdaX /mnt (it works) # mount -t ntfs-3g -o context=system_u:object_r:samba_share_t:s0 /dev/sdaX /mnt (breaks!) The problem is that the context=XXX option is no longer recognized, or so it seems. The fstab entry breaks as well for ntfs: LABEL=Ap1WD1 /md/Ap1WD1 ntfs-3g context=system_u:object_r:samba_share_t:s0 0 0 So what is the problem? -- selinux mailing list seli...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/selinux I think I figured it out... For /etc/fstab, the original line was: LABEL=Ap1WD1 /md/Ap1WD1 ntfs-3g context=system_u:object_r:samba_share_t:s0 0 0 And now should be: LABEL=Ap1WD1 /md/Ap1WD1 ntfs-3g context=system_u:object_r:samba_share_t:s0,defaults 0 0 The difference is, adding ',defaults' to the end of the context option is now required. Notice that quotes are not necessary, it makes no difference, AFAIK I am able to get the ntfs filesystems mounted and the selinux context is correctly applied to the ntfs mounted filesystems. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Celestia Space Simulator
On 09/21/2010 10:13 PM, JD wrote: On 09/21/2010 07:00 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 09/21/2010 06:22 PM, Michael Miles wrote: Nvidia 9400 Gt Since Celestia is graphics intensive, you might want to check this out. I've read there were some problems associated with Nvidia drivers... (being proprietary) but I could be wrong. I personally had problems with Nvidia way back then and it was really bad - I since stopped buying mobos with Nvidia, but that is just my experience which probably does not amount to a hill of beans ;) I have an ASUS P5GC-MX/1333: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ (Graphics) Try Stellarium or other graphics intensive apps and see if they crash or not? I doubt that SELinux is the issue... I tried stellarium. Its not as bad a cpu hog as celestia. I also edited ~/.stellarium/config.ini and set Location to San Diego, USA and it belched: Warning: location San Diego, USA is unknown Got the same warning using San Diego, California, USA So, it seems I cannot see the view from San Diego I would not mess with the config.ini, use the User Interface. Use the Location setting dialog available via the left-column pop out, it is hidden. : There are many setting options therein. By default, location is set to France I tried San Diego, No Errors I tried Portland, OR, USA: No errors I tried many other locations: No errors -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: What are these kernel messages?
On 09/21/2010 11:34 PM, JB wrote: Daniel B. Thurman dant at cdkkt.com writes: On 09/19/2010 10:49 PM, JB wrote: Daniel B. Thurman dant at cdkkt.com writes: ... Sep 18 10:34:15 host kernel: DeQueueRunning[0]= TRUE! I get these messages quite often and would like to know why the kernel is spitting out these messages. Hi, # yum info rt2870 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1056424page=3 browser Edit-Find Find: DeQueueRunning The rt2870.h file has a printk statement, that is a print kernel message. From the context you can see it is a diagnostic message, probably a help for a programmer to trace the program logic execution, but annoying to the user. ... /* - TX Related MACRO - */ #define RT28XX_START_DEQUEUE(pAd, QueIdx, irqFlags) ... printk(DeQueueRunning[%d]= TRUE!\n, QueIdx); \ ... If you downloaded the driver source code, you could remove it, compile the driver yourself without impacting program execution. So, no problem. JB Hmm. Interesting - they forgot to remove debug statements, heh! Annoying for sure, it sure fills up the logs in a hurry. Bah! But what about: Sep 18 10:34:07 host kernel: XXX, flush one! Annoying as well, and very cryptic. Thanks for letting me know about DeQueueRunning! Dan Hi, This is more up to date. # yum list installed *rt2870* Installed Packages kmod-rt2870-2.6.34.7-56.fc13.i686.i6862.4.0.1-1.fc13.8 @rpmfusion-free-updates rt2870.noarch 2.4.0.1-1.fc13 @rpmfusion-free-updates http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/updates/13/SRPMS/ rt2870-2.4.0.1-1.fc13.src.rpm http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/updates/13/SRPMS/ rt2870-kmod-2.4.0.1-1.fc13.src.rpm grep -ir DeQueueRunning Downloads/rt2870-2.4.0.1-1.fc13.src.rpm-extract/ | grep -i 'TRUE!' Downloads/rt2870-2.4.0.1-1.fc13.src.rpm-extract /2010_0709_RT2870_Linux_STA_v2.4.0.1/include/chip/mac_usb.h: DBGPRINT(RT_DEBUG_OFF, (DeQueueRunning[%d]= TRUE!\n, QueIdx)); \ $ grep -ir flush one Downloads/rt2870-2.4.0.1-1.fc13.src.rpm-extract/ Downloads/rt2870-2.4.0.1-1.fc13.src.rpm-extract /2010_0709_RT2870_Linux_STA_v2.4.0.1/common/ba_action.c: DBGPRINT(RT_DEBUG_OFF, (%x, flush one!\n, pBAEntry-LastIndSeq)); $ strings /lib/modules/2.6.34.7-56.fc13.i686/extra/rt2870/rt2870sta.ko |grep -i 'TRUE!' DeQueueRunning[%d]= TRUE! $ strings /lib/modules/2.6.34.7-56.fc13.i686/extra/rt2870/rt2870sta.ko |grep -i flush one %x, flush one! You may want to ask the maintainer to disable debug messages when compiling for a release. According to rt2870.spec : %changelog * Sat Jul 10 2010 Orcan Ogetbil oget [DOT] fedora [AT] gmail [DOT] com - 2.4.0.1-1 - Update to 2.4.0.1 ... JB Ok, so they are both related to rt28XX! Thanks for the information, it is appreciated! Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: What are these kernel messages?
On 09/19/2010 10:53 PM, JD wrote: On 09/19/2010 10:49 PM, JB wrote: Daniel B. Thurmandantat cdkkt.com writes: ... Sep 18 10:34:15host kernel: DeQueueRunning[0]= TRUE! I get these messages quite often and would like to know why the kernel is spitting out these messages. Hi, # yum info rt2870 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1056424page=3 browser Edit-Find Find: DeQueueRunning The rt2870.h file has a printk statement, that is a print kernel message. From the context you can see it is a diagnostic message, probably a help for a programmer to trace the program logic execution, but annoying to the user. ... /* - TX Related MACRO - */ #define RT28XX_START_DEQUEUE(pAd, QueIdx, irqFlags) ... printk(DeQueueRunning[%d]= TRUE!\n, QueIdx); \ ... If you downloaded the driver source code, you could remove it, compile the driver yourself without impacting program execution. So, no problem. JB Dan, which kernel version, and is this the rpmfusion driver or the redhat/fedora driver? I am using standard: Fedora + RpmFusion Apologies about not using your built-in Wifi RT28XX kernel since I am trying to stick to what Fedora provides, in that way, I can check things out and send nice missives when things breaks ;) I hope someday soon, Fedora will start folding in kernel Wifi drivers, such as you did, but I wonder when/if it will happen, but I am in no hurry. :P -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: What are these kernel messages?
On 09/19/2010 10:49 PM, JB wrote: Daniel B. Thurman dant at cdkkt.com writes: ... Sep 18 10:34:15 host kernel: DeQueueRunning[0]= TRUE! I get these messages quite often and would like to know why the kernel is spitting out these messages. Hi, # yum info rt2870 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1056424page=3 browser Edit-Find Find: DeQueueRunning The rt2870.h file has a printk statement, that is a print kernel message. From the context you can see it is a diagnostic message, probably a help for a programmer to trace the program logic execution, but annoying to the user. ... /* - TX Related MACRO - */ #define RT28XX_START_DEQUEUE(pAd, QueIdx, irqFlags) ... printk(DeQueueRunning[%d]= TRUE!\n, QueIdx); \ ... If you downloaded the driver source code, you could remove it, compile the driver yourself without impacting program execution. So, no problem. JB Hmm. Interesting - they forgot to remove debug statements, heh! Annoying for sure, it sure fills up the logs in a hurry. Bah! But what about: Sep 18 10:34:07 host kernel: XXX, flush one! Annoying as well, and very cryptic. Thanks for letting me know about DeQueueRunning! Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Celestia Space Simulator
On 09/21/2010 03:39 PM, Michael Miles wrote: JD wrote: On 09/21/2010 11:10 AM, Michael Miles wrote: JD wrote: On 09/21/2010 09:57 AM, Michael Miles wrote: Hi all I have recently installed Celestia Space Simulator and it worked really well for about 10 minutes then crashed and will not start up any more. I have removed it and re-installed it and still it starts with the beginning banner and then crashes with no abrt warning. This is a beautiful sim and I am just wondering if anyone has had the same problems with this software. It bugs me because it worked and I was flying through the universe when I crash landed on mars, it just quit!!! Michael F12 x86_64 /I downloaded celestia-gtk-1.4.1.x86.package and ran it (as non superuser) and it installed. But it does not tell me where it installed it, and it did not flag any errors or problems. So I search my home dir and /tmp. It is not there. Ditto with Desktop. No new icon. Is this Ghost Ware? :) / I am not sure. Here's where it came from celestia.x86_64 1.5.1-2.fc12 @fedora Like I said it installed then ran no problem then just stopped. When I run it from command line I get [ami...@localhost ~]$ celestia Initializing ARB vertex programs . . . Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/diffuse_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/specular_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/haze_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/bumpdiffuse_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/bumphaze_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/shadowtex_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/diffuse_texoff_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/rings_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/ringshadow_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/night_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/glossmap_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/diffuse2_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/haze2_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/diffuse_texoff2_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/specular2_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/night2_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/star_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/multishadow_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/texphong_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/texphong_alpha_arb.vp Loading ARB vertex program: shaders/ell_galaxy_arb.vp All ARB vertex programs loaded successfully. Initializing NV fragment programs . . . Loading NV fragment program: shaders/shadow_on_rings_nv.fp Loading NV fragment program: shaders/eclipse1_nv.fp Loading NV fragment program: shaders/eclipse2_nv.fp Loading NV fragment program: shaders/diffuse_nv.fp Loading NV fragment program: shaders/bumpdiffuse_nv.fp Loading NV fragment program: shaders/texphong_nv.fp Loading NV fragment program: shaders/texphong_alpha_nv.fp All NV fragment programs loaded successfully. render path: 8 Floating point exception (core dumped) This is a Fedora repo sim Michael OK. I installed it from fedora instead of sourceforge and it runs - but it is taking 99.9% of cpu. I am unable to do anything. What a monster this app is :) top - 11:43:40 up 1:57, 1 users, load average: 2.46, 1.76, 1.37 Tasks: 176 total, 2 running, 174 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 96.1%us, 3.9%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 2062408k total, 1991168k used,71240k free, 260496k buffers Swap: 8385924k total, 2904k used, 8383020k free, 1030732k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 30805 jd20 0 325m 65m 13m R 99.9 3.3 2:48.03 celestia Wow, talk a hungry little dude. I have had some success running it in root but same thing but this time I get a abrt warning process usr/bin/celestia killed by signal 8 (SIGFPE) I have disabled selinux and the firewall just to see if that had any effect. (NIL) This ran perfect the first and ever since the first crash it will not run. I get the splash screen and then blank screen Too bad because it is a very nice application for kids to explore the universe. Very useful for educational purposes Michael Seems ok for me. Using Fedora 13, running on a Core-Duo, 2GB Fast RAM, 1333 FSB, Celestia runs about 35% on my system. I can see the CPU load on Gkrellm monitor, with top option installed with percentage option enabled. Maybe mileage varies according to the performance of your Mobo, FSB, CPU speed, Ram speed, ...? Celestia has not crashed on my system. I also run Stellarium (15-25% CPU Load) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Celestia Space Simulator
On 09/21/2010 06:22 PM, Michael Miles wrote: Nvidia 9400 Gt Since Celestia is graphics intensive, you might want to check this out. I've read there were some problems associated with Nvidia drivers... (being proprietary) but I could be wrong. I personally had problems with Nvidia way back then and it was really bad - I since stopped buying mobos with Nvidia, but that is just my experience which probably does not amount to a hill of beans ;) I have an ASUS P5GC-MX/1333: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ (Graphics) Try Stellarium or other graphics intensive apps and see if they crash or not? I doubt that SELinux is the issue... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13: What are these kernel messages?
# uname -r 2.6.34.6-54.fc13.i686 Sep 18 10:34:07 host kernel: 324, flush one! Sep 18 10:34:15 host kernel: DeQueueRunning[0]= TRUE! I get these messages quite often and would like to know why the kernel is spitting out these messages. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
On 09/07/2010 10:10 AM, JD wrote: Is anyone getting this email rejection from the list server? Original Message Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:25:43 + (UTC) From: mailer-dae...@lists.fedoraproject.org (Mail Delivery System) To: jd1...@gmail.com This is the mail system at host lists.fedoraproject.org. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system users@lists.fedoraproject.org: mail forwarding loop for users@lists.fedoraproject.org Am I correct to assume that MAILER-DAEMON was not able to deliver email messages to your email server? Of so, the first thing I would do is to go to a web based email checker site and send yourself a email message, then troubleshoot from that point. Try to determine if the problem stems from your firewall, name, or email server. Also, keep in mind that if the MAILER fails to deliver email to you, at some point it, may disable your mailer account from sending any more email messages to you. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
On 09/07/2010 04:47 PM, JD wrote: On 09/07/2010 03:54 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Am I correct to assume that MAILER-DAEMON was not able to deliver email messages to your email server? No. The google mail server was unable to deliver the email to the fedora users list server. Google reported a permanent failure because the error reported by the fedora list server was: Reporting-MTA: dns; lists.fedoraproject.org . . . Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; mail forwarding loop for users@lists.fedoraproject.org So, it may have been a glitch at either the fedora list server or at the google mail server. It is starting to look like a problem with the google DNS which thought that there is a loop in resolving the list server's MX record??? Perhaps a DNS expert could shed more light on it. Duh oh! I've been sleeping! Ok, sorry about that! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12/13: Gnome Desktop Session saves - do not work
On 09/02/2010 08:28 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 09/03/2010 04:44 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I am getting all sorts of wierd problems trying to get the gnome desktop sessions save to work, and it does not work most of the time or at least I cannot save the durn thing at least once you know, like the Ronco: Save it and forget it! sort of thing... ok, ok, so I embellished it. When is this gonna get fixed - or - shall I ask, has anyone else besides me have an issue with this? Well, I recall this was broken for several Fedora releases, ... Sigh... Ubuntu got it right, so when is Fedora gonna get it right? Fedora is my favorite distro but come on, it has not worked right since F9 (barely), at least for me... .. but it started working for me since some Fedora releases (could have been F9) grumbling Is your (Presuming you to be using GNOME) System -Preferences -Startup Applications-Options -Automatically remember running applications when logging out check box marked checked? Ralf Yes, that is correct. it does not save very well, if at all and also , there used to be a save button that at least gives the user a positive feedback that the settings are saved. As it is with a standalone checkbox, no such feedback or guarantee is offered because you cannot tell if anything was saved before or after a checkbox was checked and when a user logs off or reboots. Also, there are strange behaviours, such as when using the desktop workspaces, desktop session saves also remembers which workspace an app was saved, in, positionally, and often times the apps from different workspaces may collapse into a single workspace, become positionally misplaced, or simply disappear altogether. In short - we need that save session button back no matter what - the ability to initiate a save on demand and not to depend on checkbox method to do a successful save when the user logs out or reboots the system - it is hugely unreliable, or so I think. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12/13: Gnome Desktop Session saves - do not work
On 09/03/2010 07:35 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 09/03/2010 10:31 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Yah this was def a big around a while - I gave up using it and so have not tried f13. That said - all the buttons used to do was run gnome-session-save which you may be able to run by hand ? Just tried it. It does not work for F12 F13 (and F10 and F11) As I said, only F9 barely works.. it screws up on positional placements. Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630052 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: SELinux help
On 09/02/2010 05:16 PM, Chris Smart wrote: HI all, I know there's been a lot of discussion about SELinux lately, but I like it and I use it (although I'm a recent Fedora convert). However, just today I have hit a snag and I don't know to get around it - I'm after some advice on how to work around it (without turning SELinux off!). I have a Fedora 13 OpenLDAP server for central authentication and Fedora boxes which are configured to authenticate to the LDAP server (done using Fedora's authconfig-gtk tool). In the tool under Advanced Options I have ticked the Create home directories on the first login for obvious reasons. The problem is that when the user logs in, SELinux is blocking it because it does not expect xauth to have write access to create the home directory. SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/xauth write access on [user] How do I go about solving this? In fact, what is the _right_ way to solve this? Thanks, Chris You might want to join SeLinux User mailing list: seli...@lists.fedoraproject.org Be sure to include the SeLinux report that is causing AVC denials and you'll get a response. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F12/13: Gnome Desktop Session saves - do not work
I am getting all sorts of wierd problems trying to get the gnome desktop sessions save to work, and it does not work most of the time or at least I cannot save the durn thing at least once you know, like the Ronco: Save it and forget it! sort of thing... ok, ok, so I embellished it. When is this gonna get fixed - or - shall I ask, has anyone else besides me have an issue with this? Sigh... Ubuntu got it right, so when is Fedora gonna get it right? Fedora is my favorite distro but come on, it has not worked right since F9 (barely), at least for me... grumbling -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12/13: Ndiswrapper, topdog Wifi, Thunderbird network degradation...
On 08/30/2010 07:49 AM, John W. Linville wrote: On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:55:43AM -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I have a gateway M-6750 laptop which sports a Marvell TopDog wifi chip. I have obtained the latest drivers for this chip, and used ndiswrapper to hook itself to the XP/Vista topdog driver, and it at first appears to be working... although there are crash data appearing in the log files but other than that, it continues on working. I'm sorry, but I can't offer you any support for ndiswrapper. Did you try the mwl8k driver? John No I have not tried this driver... where can I get it? Thanks! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12/13: Ndiswrapper, topdog Wifi, Thunderbird network degradation...
On 08/30/2010 11:31 AM, John W. Linville wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 08:37:14AM -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 08/30/2010 07:49 AM, John W. Linville wrote: On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:55:43AM -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I have a gateway M-6750 laptop which sports a Marvell TopDog wifi chip. I have obtained the latest drivers for this chip, and used ndiswrapper to hook itself to the XP/Vista topdog driver, and it at first appears to be working... although there are crash data appearing in the log files but other than that, it continues on working. I'm sorry, but I can't offer you any support for ndiswrapper. Did you try the mwl8k driver? John No I have not tried this driver... where can I get it? It's part of the Fedora kernel. Also make sure the linux-firmware package is installed. While testing mwl8k, you will want to remove ndiswrapper so as to avoid interference with the in-kernel driver. John I have looked on F12 repos and I cannot find this driver but I did find this driver for F13. The problem is, I need this for F12. Is this driver available for F12? If so, can you give me a clue what to look for and now this driver is to be installed and configured, please? Thanks again, Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12/13: Ndiswrapper, topdog Wifi, Thunderbird network degradation...
On 08/30/2010 12:22 PM, John W. Linville wrote: lspci -n # lspci -n 00:00.0 0600: 8086:2770 (rev 02) 00:02.0 0300: 8086:2772 (rev 02) 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:27d8 (rev 01) 00:1c.0 0604: 8086:27d0 (rev 01) 00:1c.1 0604: 8086:27d2 (rev 01) 00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:27c8 (rev 01) 00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:27c9 (rev 01) 00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:27ca (rev 01) 00:1d.3 0c03: 8086:27cb (rev 01) 00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:27cc (rev 01) 00:1e.0 0604: 8086:244e (rev e1) 00:1f.0 0601: 8086:27b8 (rev 01) 00:1f.1 0101: 8086:27df (rev 01) 00:1f.2 0101: 8086:27c0 (rev 01) 00:1f.3 0c05: 8086:27da (rev 01) 01:00.0 0180: 105a:4d69 (rev 02) 01:01.0 0200: 8086:1229 (rev 05) 02:00.0 0200: 1969:2048 (rev a0) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12/13: Ndiswrapper, topdog Wifi, Thunderbird network degradation...
On 08/30/2010 12:22 PM, John W. Linville wrote: What kernel are you using? # uname -r 2.6.32.16-150.fc12.i686 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12/13: Ndiswrapper, topdog Wifi, Thunderbird network degradation...
On 08/30/2010 01:46 PM, John W. Linville wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 01:35:31PM -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 08/30/2010 12:22 PM, John W. Linville wrote: lspci -n # lspci -n 00:00.0 0600: 8086:2770 (rev 02) 00:02.0 0300: 8086:2772 (rev 02) 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:27d8 (rev 01) 00:1c.0 0604: 8086:27d0 (rev 01) 00:1c.1 0604: 8086:27d2 (rev 01) 00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:27c8 (rev 01) 00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:27c9 (rev 01) 00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:27ca (rev 01) 00:1d.3 0c03: 8086:27cb (rev 01) 00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:27cc (rev 01) 00:1e.0 0604: 8086:244e (rev e1) 00:1f.0 0601: 8086:27b8 (rev 01) 00:1f.1 0101: 8086:27df (rev 01) 00:1f.2 0101: 8086:27c0 (rev 01) 00:1f.3 0c05: 8086:27da (rev 01) 01:00.0 0180: 105a:4d69 (rev 02) 01:01.0 0200: 8086:1229 (rev 05) 02:00.0 0200: 1969:2048 (rev a0) Hmmm... I would have expected an 0280 line. Are any of these your wireless device? Is it plugged-in? John Apologies, the above was taken from the wrong machine. This is the Gateway laptop data: # uname -a Linux hostname 2.6.32.19-163.fc12.i686 #1 SMP Wed Aug 18 11:39:59 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux # lspci -n 00:00.0 0600: 8086:2a00 (rev 03) 00:02.0 0300: 8086:2a02 (rev 03) 00:02.1 0380: 8086:2a03 (rev 03) 00:1a.0 0c03: 8086:2834 (rev 03) 00:1a.1 0c03: 8086:2835 (rev 03) 00:1a.7 0c03: 8086:283a (rev 03) 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:284b (rev 03) 00:1c.0 0604: 8086:283f (rev 03) 00:1c.2 0604: 8086:2843 (rev 03) 00:1c.5 0604: 8086:2849 (rev 03) 00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:2830 (rev 03) 00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:2831 (rev 03) 00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:2832 (rev 03) 00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:2836 (rev 03) 00:1e.0 0604: 8086:2448 (rev f3) 00:1f.0 0601: 8086:2815 (rev 03) 00:1f.1 0101: 8086:2850 (rev 03) 00:1f.2 0106: 8086:2829 (rev 03) 00:1f.3 0c05: 8086:283e (rev 03) 02:00.0 0200: 11ab:2a08 (rev 03) 06:00.0 0200: 10ec:8136 (rev 01) # lspci -nn 02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Device [11ab:2a08] (rev 03) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12/13: Ndiswrapper, topdog Wifi, Thunderbird network degradation...
On 08/30/2010 01:48 PM, John W. Linville wrote: modinfo mwl8k $ modinfo mwl8k filename: /lib/modules/2.6.32.19-163.fc12.i686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/mwl8k.ko license:GPL author: Lennert Buytenhek buyt...@marvell.com version:0.10 description:Marvell TOPDOG(R) 802.11 Wireless Network Driver srcversion: C6187652AA0FEE17B0F7F02 alias: pci:v11ABd2A30sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v11ABd2A2Bsv*sd*bc*sc*i* depends:mac80211,cfg80211 vermagic: 2.6.32.19-163.fc12.i686 SMP mod_unload 686 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F12/13: Ndiswrapper, topdog Wifi, Thunderbird network degradation...
I have a gateway M-6750 laptop which sports a Marvell TopDog wifi chip. I have obtained the latest drivers for this chip, and used ndiswrapper to hook itself to the XP/Vista topdog driver, and it at first appears to be working... although there are crash data appearing in the log files but other than that, it continues on working. I can use Firefox, and Pidgin and the network appears to work fine. But the minute I start Thunderbird, it appears the wifi/network performance is severely degradated as TB is trys to sync the IMAP server data with local data storage. It knocked out pidgin. gkrellm displayed Xorg was hitting CPU hard, Nautilus froze for a time, gnome terminal blocked text entry, basically, everything appeared eratic. But given several minutes of time for TB to settle down and to finish its tasks, the system seemed to return to some sense of normalcy - just slightly better. While this was going on, I thought I'd ping a local server to get some sense of what is going on with the network since I cannot think of a better diagnostic test, and the summary is shown below but watching each ping line, there appeared many times, complete line display stoppage running several seconds before the next display appears. 42 packets transmitted, 41 received, 2% packet loss, \ time 41873ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.754/359.603/2005.013/581.445 \ ms, pipe 3 Line by line data, the highest delay was 4000ms at that short time of testing. Is there anything I can do to see why there is network degradation and if it is related to ndiswrapper or not? I tried wired LAN and there is no network degradation? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12/13: Ndiswrapper, topdog Wifi, Thunderbird network degradation...
On 08/29/2010 10:55 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I have a gateway M-6750 laptop which sports a Marvell TopDog wifi chip. I have obtained the latest drivers for this chip, and used ndiswrapper to hook itself to the XP/Vista topdog driver, and it at first appears to be working... although there are crash data appearing in the log files but other than that, it continues on working. I can use Firefox, and Pidgin and the network appears to work fine. But the minute I start Thunderbird, it appears the wifi/network performance is severely degradated as TB is trys to sync the IMAP server data with local data storage. It knocked out pidgin. gkrellm displayed Xorg was hitting CPU hard, Nautilus froze for a time, gnome terminal blocked text entry, basically, everything appeared eratic. But given several minutes of time for TB to settle down and to finish its tasks, the system seemed to return to some sense of normalcy - just slightly better. While this was going on, I thought I'd ping a local server to get some sense of what is going on with the network since I cannot think of a better diagnostic test, and the summary is shown below but watching each ping line, there appeared many times, complete line display stoppage running several seconds before the next display appears. 42 packets transmitted, 41 received, 2% packet loss, \ time 41873ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.754/359.603/2005.013/581.445 \ ms, pipe 3 Line by line data, the highest delay was 4000ms at that short time of testing. Is there anything I can do to see why there is network degradation and if it is related to ndiswrapper or not? I tried wired LAN and there is no network degradation? This is addtional data: Wifi pings: 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=806 ttl=128 time=0.824 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=807 ttl=128 time=2127 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=808 ttl=128 time=1127 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=809 ttl=128 time=127 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=810 ttl=128 time=11999 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=811 ttl=128 time=11000 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=812 ttl=128 time=1 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=813 ttl=128 time=9000 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=814 ttl=128 time=8000 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=815 ttl=128 time=7000 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=816 ttl=128 time=6000 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=817 ttl=128 time=5000 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=818 ttl=128 time=4000 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=819 ttl=128 time=3000 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=820 ttl=128 time=2000 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=822 ttl=128 time=2.56 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=823 ttl=128 time=2002 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=824 ttl=128 time=1002 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=825 ttl=128 time=1.46 ms Wired pings: 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1025 ttl=128 time=0.239 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1026 ttl=128 time=0.233 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1027 ttl=128 time=0.252 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1028 ttl=128 time=0.214 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1029 ttl=128 time=0.233 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1030 ttl=128 time=0.248 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1031 ttl=128 time=0.231 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1032 ttl=128 time=0.200 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1033 ttl=128 time=0.224 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1034 ttl=128 time=0.240 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1035 ttl=128 time=0.202 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1036 ttl=128 time=0.241 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1037 ttl=128 time=0.222 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1038 ttl=128 time=0.235 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1039 ttl=128 time=0.249 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1040 ttl=128 time=0.230 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1041 ttl=128 time=0.239 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1042 ttl=128 time=0.246 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.100: icmp_seq=1043 ttl=128 time=0.251 ms So it appears quite clear that when there is heavy load, the Ndiswrapper/TopDog is peglegging along sputtering blood on the trails while the wired connections have no problems... Well, if anyone has any idea how I can get the topdog wifi chip working at better performance - please let me know? Thanks! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Ndiswrapper does not start during boot/network. Requires manual starts?
I have a Gateway laptop that has a topdog wireless chip, and have sucessfully got wireless to work. However, for some reason, the wireless device does not start during bootup, ntp fails to synchronize as a clue. However, once up, I can log in as a user, I have to open a gnome terminal and issue the following commands: # depmod -a # modprobe ndiswrapper What I'd like to ask, is this normally how ndiswrapper works? Is it possible to get ndiswrapper to start as it boots? I have saved wireless connection into /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts but this does not seem to work because ndiswrapper is not activated first? Any advice? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13: Latest kernel NetworkManager updates broke rt2870 wireless connection
Seems that the kernel/NetworkManager no longer can load the rt2870sta module. I tried: # dmesg usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 3 usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=14b2, idProduct=3c27 usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 usb 1-4: Product: 802.11 n WLAN usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Ralink usb 1-4: SerialNumber: 1.0 # lssub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 14b2:3c27 Ralink Technology, Corp. rt2870 802.11n WLAN # lsmod | grep ra (nothing) # modprobe rt2870 FATAL: Module rt2870 not found. # yum reinstall rt2870 kmod-rt2870 (then checked again, nothing has changed) I checked everything else, the network-scripts and so on and the configurations seems intact... So how can I get my connection back? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: Latest kernel NetworkManager updates broke rt2870 wireless connection
On 08/24/2010 08:09 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Seems that the kernel/NetworkManager no longer can load the rt2870sta module. I tried: # dmesg usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 3 usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=14b2, idProduct=3c27 usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 usb 1-4: Product: 802.11 n WLAN usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Ralink usb 1-4: SerialNumber: 1.0 # lssub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 14b2:3c27 Ralink Technology, Corp. rt2870 802.11n WLAN # lsmod | grep ra Correction: # lsmod | grep rt (should see: 'rt2870sta 463581 1 ') (nothing) # modprobe rt2870 FATAL: Module rt2870 not found. # yum reinstall rt2870 kmod-rt2870 (then checked again, nothing has changed) I checked everything else, the network-scripts and so on and the configurations seems intact... So how can I get my connection back? Ok, I rebooted and went back to the previous kernel and I was able to get my rt2870 connections, so it appears that there is something missing in the /lib/modules for the latest kernel. The previous kernel is: 2.6.33.6-147.2.4.fc13.i686 The broken(latest) kernel is: 2.6.33.8-149.fc13.i686 In the previous kernel update, what was missing was: /lib/modules/2.6.33.6-147.2.4.fc13.i686/extra/rt2870/rt2870sta.ko so, I rsync'ed the rt2870 directory from an earlier installation, rebooted, and it worked for the above case. But unfortunately, the latest kernel update does not work in the same way. Seems to me there is an inconsistency somewhere, and perhaps this is an issue with RPMFusion's implementation of the rt2870 installation package in which it fails to install the rt2870sta.ko package which is completely missing? As it is, I cannot use the latest kernel update until this issue is resolved... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: Latest kernel NetworkManager updates broke rt2870 wireless connection
On 08/24/2010 09:37 AM, Jim wrote: On 08/24/2010 11:09 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Seems that the kernel/NetworkManager no longer can load the rt2870sta module. I tried: # dmesg usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 3 usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=14b2, idProduct=3c27 usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 usb 1-4: Product: 802.11 n WLAN usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Ralink usb 1-4: SerialNumber: 1.0 # lssub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 14b2:3c27 Ralink Technology, Corp. rt2870 802.11n WLAN # lsmod | grep ra (nothing) # modprobe rt2870 FATAL: Module rt2870 not found. # yum reinstall rt2870 kmod-rt2870 (then checked again, nothing has changed) I checked everything else, the network-scripts and so on and the configurations seems intact... So how can I get my connection back The Fedora kernels are having problems with module loading. do a su -c depmod -ae . If that does not help uninstall kernel you are having problems with and try to yum update and reinstall new kernel. I have had this problem with a few Fedora kernels on different boxes. # depmod -ae WARNING: -e needs -E or -F Interestingly, the -E option is not listed in the man pages So I just did: # depmod -a I also removed and reinstalled the kernel, rebooted, same problem - does not work I noticed there is something weird from the dmesg, particularly with: rt2870sta: version magic '2.6.33.6-147.2.4.fc13.i686 SMP mod_unload 686 ' should be '2.6.33.8-149.fc13.i686 SMP mod_unload 686 ' So it appears that I need a new .ko module and perhaps RPMFusion does not have it yet and perhaps because they have not caught up to the new kernel... I wonder if a akmod is available though. And then, I also noticed from dmesg: [...] HDA Intel :00:1b.0: irq 26 for MSI/MSI-X name_count maxed, losing inode data: dev=00:07, inode=12948 name_count maxed, losing inode data: dev=00:07, inode=12948 name_count maxed, losing inode data: dev=00:07, inode=12948 name_count maxed, losing inode data: dev=00:07, inode=12940 about 100 more of these... EXT4-fs (sdb7): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode SELinux: initialized (dev sdb7, type ext4), uses xattr [...] Perhaps the above is unrelated to this post - something to do with hard drive itself (... and it is brand-new) So, all in all, rt2870 module does not load. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: Latest kernel NetworkManager updates broke rt2870 wireless connection
On 08/24/2010 10:49 AM, JD wrote: On 08/24/2010 10:39 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 08/24/2010 09:54 AM, JD wrote: On 08/24/2010 09:37 AM, Jim wrote: On 08/24/2010 11:09 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Seems that the kernel/NetworkManager no longer can load the rt2870sta module. I tried: # dmesg usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 3 usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=14b2, idProduct=3c27 usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 usb 1-4: Product: 802.11 n WLAN usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Ralink usb 1-4: SerialNumber: 1.0 # lssub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 14b2:3c27 Ralink Technology, Corp. rt2870 802.11n WLAN # lsmod | grep ra (nothing) # modprobe rt2870 FATAL: Module rt2870 not found. # yum reinstall rt2870 kmod-rt2870 (then checked again, nothing has changed) I checked everything else, the network-scripts and so on and the configurations seems intact... So how can I get my connection back OK. I assume you are using rpmfusion. So, what do you get when you type rpm -q rt2870 kmod-rt2870 also, what is the output of iwconfig wlan0 # rpm -q rt2870 kmod-rt2870 rt2870-2.4.0.1-1.fc13.noarch kmod-rt2870-2.4.0.1-1.fc13.1.i686 # iwconfig wlan0 wlan0 No such device # iwconfig ra0 ra0 No such device Notice my previous post, seems that the .ko module needs to be compatible with the latest version, as the one I am using is for a previous kernel version - I think this is the culprit. I think I will need to wait for RMPFusion to generate a new package or there may me the option to use akmod, dunno. Where in blazes did you get and boot kernel-2.4 FOR F13 Your system or yum repo files must be so totally hozed!!! Huh? Are you reading this post correctly? This is RMPFusion's way of managing packages and there is a thread about it. My latest kernel is: 2.6.33.8-149.fc13.i686 Anyway - the problem is SOLVED! I used akmod-rt2870 and it auto-compiles to the latest kernel, and requires a reboot. My wireless connection is bck! :P -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: Latest kernel NetworkManager updates broke rt2870 wireless connection [SOLVED]
On 08/24/2010 10:46 AM, JD wrote: On 08/24/2010 10:35 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 08/24/2010 09:37 AM, Jim wrote: On 08/24/2010 11:09 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Seems that the kernel/NetworkManager no longer can load the rt2870sta module. I tried: # dmesg usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 3 usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=14b2, idProduct=3c27 usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 usb 1-4: Product: 802.11 n WLAN usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Ralink usb 1-4: SerialNumber: 1.0 # lssub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 14b2:3c27 Ralink Technology, Corp. rt2870 802.11n WLAN # lsmod | grep ra (nothing) # modprobe rt2870 FATAL: Module rt2870 not found. # yum reinstall rt2870 kmod-rt2870 (then checked again, nothing has changed) I checked everything else, the network-scripts and so on and the configurations seems intact... So how can I get my connection back The Fedora kernels are having problems with module loading. do a su -c depmod -ae . If that does not help uninstall kernel you are having problems with and try to yum update and reinstall new kernel. I have had this problem with a few Fedora kernels on different boxes. # depmod -ae WARNING: -e needs -E or -F Interestingly, the -E option is not listed in the man pages So I just did: # depmod -a I also removed and reinstalled the kernel, rebooted, same problem - does not work I noticed there is something weird from the dmesg, particularly with: rt2870sta: version magic '2.6.33.6-147.2.4.fc13.i686 SMP mod_unload 686 ' should be '2.6.33.8-149.fc13.i686 SMP mod_unload 686' So it appears that I need a new .ko module and perhaps RPMFusion does not have it yet and perhaps because they have not caught up to the new kernel... I wonder if a akmod is available though. And then, I also noticed from dmesg: [...] HDA Intel :00:1b.0: irq 26 for MSI/MSI-X name_count maxed, losing inode data: dev=00:07, inode=12948 name_count maxed, losing inode data: dev=00:07, inode=12948 name_count maxed, losing inode data: dev=00:07, inode=12948 name_count maxed, losing inode data: dev=00:07, inode=12940 about 100 more of these... EXT4-fs (sdb7): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode SELinux: initialized (dev sdb7, type ext4), uses xattr [...] Perhaps the above is unrelated to this post - something to do with hard drive itself (... and it is brand-new) So, all in all, rt2870 module does not load. Can yo tell us exactly how many kernels yo have installed? rpm -q kernel will tell you all kernel versions installed. Why don't stick to having one and only one kernel installed and booted in order to move forward so when you yum install a kmod module, it will be for the correct kernel?? Otherwise you will be spinning your wheels for a long time. I keep at least 3 kernels on hand in cases if there is a problem with the latest kernel for any reason, such as in this case when I booted to the previous version and noted that rt2870 was still working. ... and the problem is now solved by installing akmod. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13: New kernel release: 2.6.33.8-149.fc13.i686: Blue screen of death?
Previous kernel version was at least very stable, but today, when I ran the new kernel release, going 45 minutes into doing things, all of a sudden, my screen changed to a light-blue screen with the Fedora infinity logo in the middle and stop working completely. No activity whatsoever. Could not access it locally nor remotely, so I was forced to do a hard reboot. I hope this was just a fluke... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: New kernel release: 2.6.33.8-149.fc13.i686: Blue screen of death?
On 08/24/2010 12:17 PM, JD wrote: On 08/24/2010 11:34 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Previous kernel version was at least very stable, but today, when I ran the new kernel release, going 45 minutes into doing things, all of a sudden, my screen changed to a light-blue screen with the Fedora infinity logo in the middle and stop working completely. No activity whatsoever. Could not access it locally nor remotely, so I was forced to do a hard reboot. I hope this was just a fluke... In the past, has your keyboard flaked out? I had a flaky keyboard that would on occasion send random sequences and cause a logout or screen change, ..etc. No, I have not had any keyboard problems, as far as I can tell... But what I was doing at the time was typing text on a forum via Firefox... so it is interesting that you brought this up! I was still typing away when all of a sudden, the BSOD popped up weird. Is it Halloween yet? Can't say that it's the keyboard fault or the person beating on the keyboard mercilessly. :) I just don't know. I think I will just wait and see if this keyboard coincidence comes up again -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
