Chrome keeps going crazy
I keep a half dozen tabs open in Chrome at most times, and sometimes when I open another tab, it seems like Chrome goes crazy and the system almost hangs. Usually I'm able to get to a console prompt and kill all Chrome sessions and things calm down for awhile. Any idea what's going on? I'm running Fedora 20 64-bit, XFCE/KDE. I've got 4 Gigs of RAM (I know, not a whole lot, but it's all that will fit on this motherboard.) The CPU is an Athlon X2 and I've got a GigE to my switch and a 100 Meg link to the router. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
mouse wheel doesn't scroll
I've had this problem under previous versions of Fedora and the trick then was always to edit the XF86config file, but now that we're not USING that, how do I get my scroll wheel back? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Nvidia Support
Quoting CS DBA cs_...@consistentstate.com: Hi All; My shiny new Thinkpad W540 is due to arrive tomorrow. I'm preparing what I think I might need for the Fedora 20 install. Nvidia support question, the W540 is equipped with this card: NVIDIA Quadro K1100M 2GB Anyone have any thoughts on the best video packages that would support this card? Is the nouveau driver sufficient, or would the kmod-nvidia driver be better? Do I need to download and install the Nvidia binaries? The screen on the laptop is a 1920x1080 Thanks in advance Use the drivers in RPM Fusion. Add the RPM Fusion NON-FREE repository to your system. See the following link for instructions: http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
safe to remove DNF?
DNF keeps crashing on me, and I was going to remove it, but it wants to remove a few other things like initial-setup and anaconda. I'm scared to remove those because I don't want to kill my system. Is it safe to remove all three packages on a running system??? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HELP! System keeps locking up
Quoting Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com: I've hit a similar thing on a homebrewed Athlon machine as well. The nouveau driver didn't like the nVidia video card and it would hard lock periodically. The machine is powered down right now, so I can't tell you which nVidia it has, however switching to the nVidia binary driver solved the problem for me. My suggestion is that you gather all the X logs, messages logs and dmesg info you can and file a bug report. I started that process but my time got heavily soaked up at work and has prevented me from following through on the whole debug process with the nouveau gang. They were quite interested in the problem. OK. I think that once I do that, I'll see if I can't dig up the instructions for installing the binary nVidia driver. :) I used that back when I had F18 and it worked well, so I'll give that a shot as well. I wondered if that wasn't the problem. 'Preciate the reply. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HELP! System keeps locking up
Quoting Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com: Just use the nVidia drivers from RPMfusion. Your life will be easier Yeah, but don't I have to add the kmod-nvidia and other stuff? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HELP! System keeps locking up
Quoting Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com: On 02/21/14 21:47, John Aldrich wrote: Quoting Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com: Just use the nVidia drivers from RPMfusion. Your life will be easier Yeah, but don't I have to add the kmod-nvidia and other stuff? Sure But using the rpmfusion stuff means you don't have to manually blacklist the nouveau driver and you don't have to worry about rebuilding things when a new kernel is released. Oh, Ok.. Gotcha. :) I assume there's a FAQ somewhere on how to do this, or do you just sudo yum install nvidia*.rpm or something like that and it'll say oh, you need kmod-nvidia and add that to the install? :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HELP! System keeps locking up
Quoting Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us: On 02/21/2014 05:47 AM, John Aldrich wrote: Quoting Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com: Just use the nVidia drivers from RPMfusion. Your life will be easier Yeah, but don't I have to add the kmod-nvidia and other stuff? Yes, but you'll only do it once. If you use the package from the OEM, you'll have to do it again every time there's a kernel update. Which would you rather do? Gotcha. Yeah. I must have used the RPMFusion back in the F15/16/17/18 days. As I think I mentioned I had to blow my O/S away and reinstall because I F-ed up the upgrade from F18. That has to be the CRAPPIEST upgrade I've ever done! Hopefully the upgrade from F20 to F21 will be smoother. If not, I think I'll switch to Ubuntu or something! That FedUp crap is for the birds -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HELP! System keeps locking up
Quoting Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us: Oh, Ok.. Gotcha. :) I assume there's a FAQ somewhere on how to do this, or do you just sudo yum install nvidia*.rpm or something like that and it'll say oh, you need kmod-nvidia and add that to the install? :) http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=204752 Thanks. I Googled it shortly after I asked that and found this: http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
HELP! System keeps locking up
Hello, all... I'm running Fedora 20 on a homebrew PC It's an AMD Athlon X2 processor with an on-board nVidia display chipset. This is a fresh install of F20, pretty much up to date. I had to do a fresh install since I mangled the upgrade from F18. Every once in awhile, mainly when I'm trying to unlock the screen, the system will freeze up. My display is a black background with bits of color in a diagonal pattern. I say mainly when trying to unlock the screen because I had it happen to me this morning (third time in 24 hours) when I was thinking of trying a different screen saver (been using Moebius Gears) on the thought that maybe the Noveau driver doesn't like the GL screen saver for some reason. Every time this happens I have to use the reset button on my system. This morning when it happened, I had an SSH window from another PC logged in and it was frozen as well. I have checked /var/log/messages and there is nothing in there that would indicate a problem. There was hardly anything in there since about 8PM last night and it's locked up twice since then. Suggestions/thoughts/theories??? I'm running XFCE, if it matters, but still using parts of KDE as well. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
RE: HELP! System keeps locking up
Quoting bc98kinney bc98kin...@yahoo.com: Lockups can come from bad memory, so I would recommend you run memtest86 before anything else. Sometimes you have to let it go for a couple days before it finds anything. A non destructive drive test like DFT wouldn't be a bad idea either. Thanks. Asked on a local geek list and they suggested Memtest86 as well. :) Another old geek suggestion was to power down, and clean the connector edges with a pencil eraser. Think I'll try that as well. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Printing CD/DVD case cover inserts
I recently had a failed upgrade so I had to reinstall. Previously, under Fedora I had some sort of CD/DVD case cover insert printer that would print all sorts of nice covers. Since reinstalling, I no longer have that. Anyone know what it would be? I use the slimline DVD cases, so would prefer something that can print those instead of / along with the regular DVD case inserts. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Setting a static IP on Fedora 20
How do I assign a static IP on Fedora 20? Network Manager won't let me do that, and the command-line tools I used back in the older versions of Fedora don't seem to exist any more. I want to be able to assign a static IP to my Fedora box so that I can access it from outside via a forwarded port in my router, but if the internal IP keeps changing, that won't work. :( -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
can't seem to get SSH to work
I had SSH partly working up until I started messing with the firewall. It would time out trying to SSH into my linux box, but now it immediately rejects it. I've manually configured the non-standard port I'm using to be allowed in the firewall and now instead of just timing out, it rejects it, which is the OPPOSITE of what it's supposed to do. :( What do I need to do in order to open a port for SSH (non-standard port, btw.) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: can't seem to get SSH to work
On Sat January 11 2014 6:22:47 PM Jorge Fábregas wrote: On 01/11/2014 06:13 PM, John Aldrich wrote: What do I need to do in order to open a port for SSH (non-standard port, btw.) Assuming you already performed the change in /etc/ssh/sshd_config (and restarted the service) you should check the current status of your firewall: # firewall-cmd --list-all Make sure your non-standard port is there. If not you may add it with: # firewall-cmd --add-port=/tcp (to change it on running system) # firewall-cmd --permanent ---add-port=/tcp (make it permanent) ...assuming is your non-standard port. Also, if you have SELinux enabled (which you should) you must allow it there: # semanage port -a -t ssh_port_t -p tcp Double-check with: # semanage port -l | grep ssh HTH, Jorge OK, the non-standard port is added to the firewall and I've double-checked that SELinux is set to allow the port (it is.) I'm still getting connection refused immediately upon trying to connect VIA SSH. :( -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedup leaves half done 18 19
Quoting Sean Darcy seandar...@gmail.com: I'm trying to upgrade FC18 to FC19. Ran fedup --network 19. got this non-fatal error: 120.813] (II) fedup.yum:build_update_transaction() systemd-sysv-201-2.fc18.9.x86_64 requires systemd = 201-2.fc18.9 120.815] (II) fedup.yum:build_update_transaction() libgudev1-201-2.fc18.9.x86_64 requires systemd = 201-2.fc18.9 But seemed to work fine: 615.833] (II) fedup:module() /usr/bin/fedup exiting cleanly at Wed Dec 25 17:40:00 2013 Rebooted. Saw the start of the upgrade transaction. All seemed fine. Saw first packages being installed. Came back after a couple of hours. Screen blank. Rebooted. No FC19. Booted into FC18. Is there a log of what happened in the upgrade itself? Now I have 1400 of fc19 packages installed. rpm -qa | grep fc19 | wc -l 1406 but not the fc19 kernel. All the fc18 packages are still there: rpm -qa | grep fc18 | wc -l 1782 Tried to run fedup again, but no luck: [ 190.819] (II) fedup.yum:build_update_transaction() buildTransaction returned 1 [ 190.820] (II) fedup.yum:build_update_transaction() Depsolving loop limit reached. [ 190.821] (II) fedup.yum:build_update_transaction() systemd-python-201-2.fc18.9.x86_64 requires systemd = 201-2.fc18.9 [ 190.822] (II) fedup.yum:build_update_transaction() avahi-ui-gtk3 conflicts with avahi-0.6.31-6.fc18.x86_64 [ 190.822] (II) fedup.yum:build_update_transaction() libsss_sudo-1.9.6-1.fc18.x86_64 requires sssd = 1.9.6-1.fc18 [ 190.822] (II) fedup.yum:build_update_transaction() systemd-sysv-201-2.fc18.9.x86_64 requires systemd = 201-2.fc18.9 [ 190.822] (II) fedup.yum:build_update_transaction() libgudev1-201-2.fc18.9.x86_64 requires systemd = 201-2.fc18.9 [ 190.822] (II) fedup.yum:build_update_transaction() avahi-autoipd conflicts with avahi-0.6.31-6.fc18.x86_64 [ 190.823] (II) fedup.yum:build_update_transaction() PackageKit-0.8.9-1.fc18.x86_64 requires preupgrade [ 190.823] (II) fedup.yum:build_update_transaction() avahi-libs conflicts with avahi-0.6.31-6.fc18.x86_64 and then dies with a python error: [ 240.965] (DD) fedup.yum:yum_plugin_for_exc() checking traceback files: ['/usr/bin/fedup-cli', '/usr/bin/fedup-cli'] [ 240.965] (DD) fedup.yum:yum_plugin_for_exc() plugin path is ['/usr/share/yum-plugins', '/usr/lib/yum-plugins'] [ 240.965] (II) fedup:module() Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/fedup-cli, line 236, in module main(args) File /usr/bin/fedup-cli, line 216, in main for line in s.format_details(): AttributeError: 'ProblemSummary' object has no attribute 'format_details' [ 240.966] (II) fedup:module() /usr/bin/fedup-cli exiting with unhandled exception at Thu Dec 26 10:45:19 2013 So I can't go forward with fedup. No clue what was the problem upgrading. (there _really_ should be an upgrade log!) Any help really appreciated. sean -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org I think you did what I did and rebooted in the middle of the upgrade. I'm in a similar pickle. I'm going to try FedUp one more time, but I'm thinking I'm going to have to do a fresh install to get F20. :( -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
upgrading from F18 to F20 -- missing dependencies
I use KMOD-NVIDIA on my system, and I ran FEDUP to upgrade to F20 overnight and when I came to my computer this morning, there were several warnings: WARNING: problems were encountered during transaction test: broken dependencies kmod-nvidia-304xx-3.11.7-100.fc18.x86_64-304.88-4.fc18.x86_64 requires kernel-3.11.9-100.fc18.x86_64, kernel-3.11.7-100.fc18.x86_64, kernel-3.11.10-100.fc18.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-304xx-3.11.9-100.fc18.x86_64-304.116-1.fc18.x86_64 requires kernel-3.11.9-100.fc18.x86_64, kernel-3.11.7-100.fc18.x86_64, kernel-3.11.10-100.fc18.x86_64 xmms2-sid-0.8-4.fc19.x86_64 requires xmms2-sid-0.8-4.fc19.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-304xx-3.11.10-100.fc18.x86_64-304.116-1.fc18.x86_64 requires kernel-3.11.9-100.fc18.x86_64, kernel-3.11.7-100.fc18.x86_64, kernel-3.11.10-100.fc18.x86_64 Continue with the upgrade at your own risk. Also, why is it trying to install F19 RPMs when I'm upgrading to F20? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
just upgraded to F20
And now running yum distro-sync results in the system trying to roll back everything. When I look in YUMEX it shows all the repos as F18, not F20. How do I fix that??? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
upgraded to F20, still have F18 packages
Can I just do a yum remove *.fc18.* to remove those packages since I should have the F20 versions now? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
I Broke yum
Trying again... I used FedUp to upgrade to F20 from F18, however the first time I tried, I switched the display (I'm on a KVM switch) to another computer and when I switched back it looked like the display had not updated and that FedUp was hung, so I rebooted, cleaned everything out and tried again. This time I let it go even after it appeared hung and it completed the upgrade, however, by rebooting during the FedUp process, I managed to confuse yum, so that it thinks I'm still running F18. Nothing I've tried so far seems to have any permanent effect on Yum. I've already run yum --releasever=20 distro-sync which didn't do much. I've run yum-config-manager --save --releasever=20 which didn't do squat either. I'm about out of ideas. Has anyone else ever managed to confuse Yum like this and if so did you ever figure out how to fix it? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Upgrading from F18
Can I use FedUp to go directly from Fedora 18 to Fedora 20 or do I need to upgrade to F19 first? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: ssh tunel failure.
Quoting Carlos \casep\ Sepulveda ca...@fedoraproject.org:
On 5 December 2013 11:59, Paweł Sikora pawel.sik...@agmk.net wrote:
Hi all,
i've recently reinstalled my previous distro with fc20-beta and observing
strange ssh tunels disconnection. i'm establishing tunels in this way:
ssh -2fCN -p ${non-default port} -L
${local_port}:${endpoint}:{$endpoint_port}
${login}@${gatE}.
after some time (mostly few minutes) all unused ssh tunels die.
any ideas?
Hi:
What about launching the ssh with -vvv or similar?
It looks like the ConnectTimeout parameter wasn't working properly.
Kind regards
Or, maybe you need a keep-alive signal to keep the tunnel open? It's
basically just a matter of sending a ping or two every couple minutes.
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Re: [FIXED] Re: UEFI: After upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1, F19 grub menu does not appear
Quoting Nick Urbanik nick.urba...@optusnet.com.au: Dear Folks, On 20/11/13 09:53 +1100, Nick Urbanik wrote: Dear Folks, I installed Fedora 19 on my son's laptop, and it worked beautifully with the already installed Windows 8. Then foolishly, I upgraded the Windows 8 to Windows 8.1. Now it boots straight to Windows 8.1 and grub does not appear. I disabled secure boot in the firmware. I do not even know which version of grub was booting the UEFI system before; it just worked. Now I need to know. Can anyone suggest: 1. What grub would the Fedora 19 installer have provided to boot it and Windows 8? (grub2, grub-efi,...) 2. Can anyone point to any documentation on how to fix this? I am a little nervous on this, as I once attempted to upgrade an F18 UEFI stand alone system from grub-efi to grub2 with the result that I could not boot the machine, and wound up re-installing Fedora. I have a live disk, can boot the machine with that, and have some experience with grub and non-EFI systems. After much poking around, and seeing http://askubuntu.com/questions/240496/how-to-show-grub-after-install-ubuntu-over-windows-8 and reading documentation, I did this from a Fedora 19 Live CD; gdisk to see the partition layout, then efibootmgr to fix it: [liveuser@localhost ~]$ sudo gdisk /dev/sda ... Command (? for help): p Disk /dev/sda: 976773168 sectors, 465.8 GiB Logical sector size: 512 bytes Disk identifier (GUID): 8EB52CEC-C6A8-4A63-8AB3-3675A2AB07DE Partition table holds up to 128 entries First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 976773134 Partitions will be aligned on 2048-sector boundaries Total free space is 2029 sectors (1014.5 KiB) Number Start (sector)End (sector) Size Code Name 12048 821247 400.0 MiB 2700 Basic data partition 2 821248 1435647 300.0 MiB EF00 EFI system partition 3 1435648 1697791 128.0 MiB 0C01 Microsoft reserved part 4 1697792 223358975 105.7 GiB 0700 Basic data partition 5 223358976 224075775 350.0 MiB 2700 6 224075776 937428991 340.2 GiB 8E00 7 937428992 976773119 18.8 GiB2700 Basic data partition Command (? for help): q ... [liveuser@localhost ~]$ mount |grep -i efi efivarfs on /sys/firmware/efi/efivars type efivarfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) [liveuser@localhost ~]$ sudo efibootmgr -c -p 2 -d /dev/sda -l \EFI\fedora\grubx64.efi -L Fedora ** Warning ** : Boot0002 has same label Fedora BootCurrent: Timeout: 2 seconds BootOrder: 0003,,0001,0002 Boot* ATAPI CDROM: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GT51N Boot0001* Windows Boot Manager Boot0002* Fedora Boot0003* Fedora [liveuser@localhost ~]$ Now grub works, and both Fedora and Windows 8.1 boot. -- Nick Urbanik http://nicku.org 808-71011 nick.urba...@optusnet.com.au GPG: 7FFA CDC7 5A77 0558 DC7A 790A 16DF EC5B BB9D 2C24 ID: BB9D2C24 I disclaim, therefore I am. And THAT, my friends, is why you have separate Windows and Linux machines. ;) (half-joking. I have three Windows machines, one a Win7, one a WinXP (going away) and a second refurbed Win7 machine as well as a home-brew Linux box.) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: need help printing UPS shipping labels
Quoting Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak m...@avtechpulse.com: Does anyone here successfully print UPS shipping labels from the UPS online shipping tool? I find that when I try this with Firefox, epiphany, or Chrome on F19, the barcode-containing section of the label is generated as a 728x416 image. If I use Firefox or IE on Windows, the same label is generated as a 1400x800 image. The UPS scanners won't recognize the barcodes in the smaller images, so I have to print from Windows. Any ideas? Is this some odd javascript default-image size setting that differs with OS? It may be a driver-specific thing. Are you using the same printer on Windows as under Linux? I print from Linux to my Windows machine using the shared printer off my Windows box and it works fine. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Alien
I have an app that is available in three formats: Mac, Windows and .DEB. I would like to install it on my Fedora box, but, obviously, Fedora doesn't support .DEB files. So, I thought, why not use Alien to install it? Except, there doesn't seem to be an Alien RPM for Fedora 18. The most recent I could find was Fedora 16. Has Alien been abandoned? If not, where can I find it? Thanks! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Solicited sales email distribution - advice needed
Quoting Gary Stainburn gary.stainb...@ringways.co.uk: Hi Folks. I have at work one of our salesmen who has an opt-in stock-list distribution that has been running for some time now. He has in excess of 2500 recipients on this list. Up until now he has simply had a Distribution list in his MS Outlook which he maintains himself. He then sends himself an email every week containing the stock list and BCC's the distribution list. Other than generating an excessive load on my EXIM server there has been no real down side to this as it meant that I didn't have to get involved. However, we are now experiencing problems and I would like a better solution. I need a system that will distribute the email to each recipient as a seperate message, and if possible will monitor and highlight any emails that fail. Can anyone suggest a way of doing this? Ideally I would like the salesman to still be able to administer it but that isn't essential. If it is a system that is either text file or database driven I can create a UI that he would be able to use. Simple... use a service such as Constant Contact. I believe they will accept that this list was generated as an opt-in list, but I'd be prepared for some questions from the recipients. If it were me, I'd send a couple emails out advising I was moving the list to a list-management service (such as CC) ahead of time to try and reduce the surprise factor. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: how are you?
Quoting Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net: http://www.frizzphotozz akonstam Aaron Konstam Don't mess with anybody who can make a lot more trouble for you than you can make for them. % Uh-oh. Looks like someone's email got hacked. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can anyone recommend a cheap MP3 player?
One downside to the Fuze is that it is a discontinued model. That being said they have a new model which is very similar, called the Fuze+. It has pretty much the same features as the Fuze, except they switched the central control has been replaced with a multi-directional button instead of a knob. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can anyone recommend a cheap MP3 player?
On 05/13/2013 06:01 PM, Anthony wrote: I have an old iPod Touch 1st Gen that I really still use quite a bit (mostly for email and the like). But since I moved all of my computers to Linux, I can't access the device anymore and can't transfer music to and from it. I'm not willing to install Windows in any form be it a VM or the like, So I'm going to get a new MP3 player and just use the Touch like a handheld for email and podcasts I can stream online. Can anyone recommend a good, cheap 8gb MP3 player that will work with Fedora? If possible, I'd like something that simply shows up as a flash drive or something instead of having the need to install libraries and other programs to access it. Thanks! Anthony Papillion I have a Sansa Fuze which works pretty good. The nice thing about it is that it takes a Micro-SD card as well, so you essentially have two file systems with music on 'em. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Which Fedup?
I was looking to download Fedup, but I see that there is one for F17 and one for F18. I am currently running F17, so I'm guessing I should download that one -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Bumblebee on Fedora?
Quoting Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com: Bumblebee is a project to enable NVidia's Optimus technology on Linux. I have found a number of web pages explaining how to use Bumblebee on Fedora, but they all seem to involve downloading and compiling the project's source code. Whilst I'm happy to do that if it's necessary, I wondered if anyone knew of plans to make pre-built RPMs available in the Fedora repositories. I think maybe you just volunteered. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Bumblebee on Fedora?
Quoting Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com: I think maybe you just volunteered. :D I was afraid of that :-/ I'm fine when it comes to bundling up Perl modules (http://rpm.mag-sol.com/), but I've never tried a C library before. Perhaps I'll find time to take a look at it... Well, once you have a template (forget the correct term) it's not hard to build an RPM. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SPAM EMAIL
Can someone please do something about the spam coming on this list??? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Multi-protocol IM clients
So, I've decided to jump back onto IM after a few years. My last Linux-based IM client was AYTTM, but I'm not even sure it's still packaged with Fedora, although I suppose I could roll my own so to speak. :D I'd prefer to use a pre-packaged IM client. I've tried Pidgin, but I'm having a problem where if I change my status to away it freezes out the keyboard and won't let me type anything until I close Pidgin and start it back up. I currently use LXDE and KDE. Anyone got a suggestion for a good multi-protocol IM client? I used to use Trillian on the Windows side of things, but I try to stay away from Windows as much as possible. :D Thanks! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multi-protocol IM clients
Quoting Jack Craig jack.craig.ap...@gmail.com: On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:44 AM, John Aldrich jmaldr...@yahoo.com wrote: [snip] I've tried Pidgin, but I'm having a problem where if I change my status to away it freezes out the keyboard and won't let me type anything until I close Pidgin and start it back up. [snip] you might look at pidgin... Umm... I think you missed in my original post where I said I tried it, but I have to shut it down and bring it back up if I want to set an away message and then come back and use it again. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multi-protocol IM clients
On Thu August 30 2012 4:43:22 PM Konstantin Svist wrote: I know exactly what bug you're talking about, I noticed it appeared a few revisions ago. If you're not afraid of using out-of-date code (supposedly new code has security fixes), you can download an older version of Pidgin from http://koji.fedoraproject.org The bug also has a workaround -- if you can use your mouse to click a top menu item, everything goes back to normal. Thanks, I found my old faithful was indeed available through normal channels. I'm now using AYTTM. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Clean install keeping home folder intact
Quoting Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com: Pick another one, e.g. Ubuntu (Debian based), and you have to learn a new way of doing things. Useful to learn, but may be more than you want to put up with. You need to learn their different admin techniques, join another mailing list or forum for advice, and to hear about its foibles. Yes, personally I've found Ubuntu to be a bit harder to administer since it seems to try to do more 'magic'. MY problem with Ubuntu is that the main version uses the Unity interface, which I dislike very much. The solution to that is obviously to use a different Spin such as Kubuntu or Xubuntu. That being said, I have a laptop which is stuck on the previous version of KUbuntu because for some reason I no longer remember, I was unable to update/install the latest version and had to reinstall the old version. I don't know if they have updates for it, which would fix that problem or if I'm just SOL on that laptop, but I'm happy with things as they are for now. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Clean install keeping home folder intact
Quoting Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net: On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 09:57:04 +0200 Christopher Svanefalk wrote: is there a safe way to do a complete reinstall of Fedora, which in effect simply leaves the home folder as-is? Is your /home directory mounted as a separate partition? Definitely the way to go if you don't want to wipe the /home directory, but want to do a clean install. That's how I manage to keep several directories between clean installs, including my /home. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining
With respect to SELinux... I really have no idea whether it's currently enabled, enabled in permissive mode or disabled (I *think* it may be in permissive mode, but I wouldn't swear to it.) However, I got to thinking... it needs to be set up more like an antivirus program, i.e. smart enough to recognize what is there and act accordingly. What I do NOT want to see is something like a firewall in paranoid mode where it alerts on every little thing. I know early on SELinux was acting like a firewall in paranoid mode, which got more than a little annoying. I, for one, don't want to be constantly responding to alerts on standard apps trying to behave normally. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining
Quoting Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com: Once, long ago--actually, on Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 09:29:49PM -0700--jdow (j...@earthlink.net) said: Then I discovered a property of Windows. If your motherboard goes bad and you can't replace it with an exact replacement the system and all other software installed on that disk are suddenly useless. (Yes, you can at least recover the files. But you cannot recover the installs.) Ah...just a parenthetical aside. This is quite untrue. I've replaced failed motherboards on numerous Windows installations of various versions. You usually have to do a recovery reinstallation, but it does work, and your installed programs, data, etc. are all preserved. I'm not defending Windows--this is more along the lines of Know thine enemy. If you're trying to promote Linux, but express actual falsehoods about Windows, people will discount all your views. Yes...but if your Linux box is set up with a generic, modular kernel, chances are you won't have to re-install Linux, where, as you point out, with Windows, you'll have to do a repair install, at a minimum. At worst, you'll have to try and re-install on another disk and re-install all your apps and copy your data over. So, you are correct in that many cases, on Windows you can do a repair install but may end up having to start over from near scratch. Linux, properly set up, doesn't have that issue. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora by opensuse
Quoting Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com: Jesus! I could see producing an ubuntu package to utterly eradicate Unity from your ubuntu box, but deliberately help to advance and perpetuate Unity? These people are the spawn of Satan! I agree. That's why I switched from straight Ubuntu to KUbuntu on my laptop. On my desktop, I use Fedora, of course. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Hardware vendors
Quoting Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com: They don't, AFAIK, pre-install any version of Linux. But they do have a full line of machines that come with no OS installed (well, I think there may be a copy of FreeDOS.) Look at the 'N' series machines. Canonical is still trumpeting its 'partnership' with Dell: http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/dell And as of May, they were pushing something called Sputnik as an experimental project to produce Linux laptops: http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/05/new-dell-ubuntu-ultrabooks-a-step-in-the-right-direction-for-linux-support/ Dell *does* have Linux pre-installed on business machines, but not on home machines. You have to step up to the N series as Dave suggested. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
KDE 4.9
Anyone know when KDE 4.9 will be released in Fedora? Will that be in F16 or F17? I'm anxious to know because a major glitch in KMail is supposedly fixed in 4.9, and I'd like to get my hands on it. :D OTOH, I'm not so anxious as to add updates-testing to my YUM. :D I'll let someone ELSE be the guinea pig :D Just curious to know if I'll have to wait for F17 or if F16 will eventually be updated to KDE 4.9. Thanks! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
KDE 4.9
Disregard... I just went and saw that the F17 release is supposed to happen in a few days, so I guess that answers my question about KDE 4.9 and F16. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
updates failing due to mirrors down
So, I decided to run yum update this morning and it failed due to several RPMFusion and Livna repo mirrors being down. Are RPMFusion and Livna going away / gone? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: flash or firefox?
On Sat March 10 2012 6:23:31 PM Tom Horsley wrote: The weather radar pointed at by the http://www.sun-sentinel.com/ newspaper site stopped fully loading after a flash update a while back. http://content.wdtinc.com/clients/sunsentinel/map.php?MAPID=10995CLIENTID=2 0421 never seems to completely draw (and sometimes doesn't even get started). I thought the site was busted till I tried it on Windows XP and IE and it still works perfectly there. Has anyone else seen this sort of thing with latest flash? I (naturally) suspect flash, so I made this (probably useless) bug report with adobe: https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bugid=3134872 Well, I loaded it in Google Chrome after I turned off Flash Block. Make sure you don't have a plugin like Flash Block in your Firefox. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for beautiful themes, application settings, fonts, etc. (KDE)
Quoting linux guy linuxguy...@gmail.com: With the aforementioned resolution changes, my display looks about 10x better. Make that 20x better. One situation which still looks really awful is viewing gmail in Firefox. For some reason that font is terrible. Install Chrome. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Clicking on an email link in Chrome
Every time I click on an email link in Google Chrome it brings up Firefox and that brings up Evolution. My default email client is KMail. I looked in the help section for Chrome and there is nothing in Chrome on the default application handlers on my system. KMail is set as the default email client in systemsettings. Any ideas short of uninstalling Firefox and Evolution? That seems rather drastic. Thanks! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Operating a laptop when closed. Disabling the lid switch ?
Quoting Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net: Am 19.01.2012 19:05, schrieb linux guy: I'd like to run my new laptop with the lid closed. I'm using external displays and keyboard, mouse, etc. When its at my desk, I only want to use it as a processing unit. you do not really want this because the machine will OVERHEAT! How do you figure that? I'm typing this at my desk at work on a laptop with the lid closed. Granted it's on a docking station that raises the rear a couple inches (I guess for extra air-flow) but it still illustrates the fallacy of your argument. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Somewhat OT: Windows won't boot after update
Quoting Sergio Belkin seb...@gmail.com: 2012/1/16 Emilio Lopez emiliol...@gmail.com After a Windows Update, Windows 7 Won't boot anymore. I have no idea why and how can I restore it. There is a Windows 7 Restore CD which could solve that, but surely this will remove grub completely. Emilio. -- This is a OEM edition... Most times you can either order a restore CD from the manufacturer or (if you haven't already B0rken it) burn one. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cannot reach F16 box via ssh
Quoting M. Fioretti mfiore...@nexaima.net: Greetings, I have just installed F16 on a friend's box. Now I want to enable sshd in order to log in from home and do system administration, updates, etc... for him. Before F16, the same box was running Ubuntu and I could log in via ssh without problems. Now every attempt from my home times out. I have already enabled sshd, iptables (see below), and used the firewall config tool to enable allow ssh incoming connections, but every attempt times out. Surely I'm missing something obvious, but what? Thanks in advance for any pointer, Marco ### [root@segretario ~]# systemctl status ip6tables.service ip6tables.service - IPv6 firewall with ip6tables Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ip6tables.service; enabled) Active: active (exited) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:50:15 +0100; 13min ago Process: 776 ExecStart=/usr/libexec/ip6tables.init start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/ip6tables.service [root@segretario ~]# systemctl status sshd.service sshd.service - OpenSSH server daemon Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/sshd.service; enabled) Active: active (running) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:50:15 +0100; 13min ago Main PID: 906 (sshd) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/sshd.service #9492; 906 /usr/sbin/sshd -D [root@segretario ~]# systemctl status iptables.service iptables.service - IPv4 firewall with iptables Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/iptables.service; enabled) Active: active (exited) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:50:15 +0100; 13min ago Process: 774 ExecStart=/usr/libexec/iptables.init start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/iptables.service [root@segretario ~]# How is this box connected to the outside world? Have there been ANY networking changes wrt the internet connection? I agree with the other person who suggested verifying that the SSH port is accessible via the outside world. Also, you might want to try a special (ie 1024, I think it is) port in case your friend's internet provider is blocking those port numbers. Some internet providers will block all normal ports inbound so that you can't run a server from a home connection. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk ... additional question
Quoting Michael D. Setzer II mi...@kuentos.guam.net: Perhaps the best option to look at it. http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/#screenshots Screen Show 1 - shows the syslinux boot menu screen. Usually just press Enter to boot the default kernel. Press right arrow of side of image to go to next screen shot. Screen shot 2 - shows the various options. For local backup just enter g4l and press enter. Screen shot 3 -Just Press Enter to select Raw Menu option Screen shot 4 - Select Local Menu optin and enter Screen shot 5 - Is network menu we skip. Screen shot 6 - Local Menu. A Enter to select the partition to save image on. B Enter the name of the Image file. C Skip unless File sytem doesn't support larger files D Skip unless you want to use a compress other than lzop E Will start a backup with lzop compress. Prompts for partition or disk to backup Will show progress bar as it does back. Then reboot. That's the simple version. Just use option F instead of E to restore. The utility menu has a way to clear free space to reduce image size. There is also a documentation file that has more than the 6 screen shots that sourceforge allows, and it has some step by step instructions that might be helpful. http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/files/g4l%20documentation/g4l0 .37-documentationsm.pdf/download +--+ Let me say I have used G4L at a previous employer to do backups of machines, etc and it's VERY easy to use and pretty much my default program. I had problems figuring out CloneZilla and I'm an IT specialist! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Hacking Xorg.conf
Ok, for some reason (probably because I'm using an old KVM switch) my Fedora 16 system is not detecting what monitor I have and is refusing to give me a usable resolution. I have a Dell E2210H wide-screen monitor and it's capable of 1920x1080 resolution, but I can't get that in Fedora. Under Windows, the monitor is also not identified, but I AM able to get the maximum resolution. I have hacked my xorg.conf in an attempt to get it to display, but it's still not working. Here's a copy of my xorg.conf (I copied it over the nvidia- xorg.conf after backing up the nvidia-xorg file as well.): # RPM Fusion - nvidia-xorg.conf # Section Monitor Identifier Monitor1 VendorName Dell ModelNameE2210H HorizSync30.0 - 83.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0 Modeline 1920x1080@75 148.5 1920 1952 2896 2928 1080 1101 1114 1135 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Monitor Monitor1 Device Videocard0 DefaultDepth24 EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver nvidia EndSection Here's the log file: [20.942] X.Org X Server 1.11.2 Release Date: 2011-11-04 [20.943] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [20.943] Build Operating System: x86-12 2.6.32-131.17.1.el6.x86_64 [20.943] Current Operating System: Linux slave1.aldrich 3.1.2-1.fc16.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 22 09:00:57 UTC 2011 x86_64 [20.943] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.1.2-1.fc16.x86_64 root=UUID=42f98883-c248-4e0a-9e06-7ead55757387 ro rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 KEYTABLE=us quiet SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 rhgb rd.luks=0 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 [20.943] Build Date: 10 November 2011 07:40:04PM [20.943] Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.11.2-3.fc16 [20.943] Current version of pixman: 0.22.2 [20.943]Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. [20.943] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [20.943] (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sat Dec 3 20:41:11 2011 [20.944] (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf [20.944] (==) Using config directory: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d [20.944] (==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d [20.944] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. [20.944] (**) |--Screen Default Screen (0) [20.944] (**) | |--Monitor Monitor1 [20.944] (**) | |--Device Videocard0 [20.944] (==) Automatically adding devices [20.944] (==) Automatically enabling devices [20.944] (==) FontPath set to: catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d, built-ins [20.944] (**) ModulePath set to /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia,/usr/lib64/xorg/modules [20.944] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices. [20.944] (II) Loader magic: 0x7caac0 [20.944] (II) Module ABI versions: [20.944]X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 [20.944]X.Org Video Driver: 11.0 [20.944]X.Org XInput driver : 13.0 [20.944]X.Org Server Extension : 6.0 [20.945] (--) PCI:*(0:0:13:0) 10de:03d6:1043:83a4 rev 162, Mem @ 0xde00/16777216, 0xc000/268435456, 0xdd00/16777216, BIOS @ 0x/131072 [20.946] (II) LoadModule: extmod [20.946] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so [20.947] (II) Module extmod: vendor=X.Org Foundation [20.947]compiled for 1.11.2, module version = 1.0.0 [20.947]Module class: X.Org Server Extension [20.947]ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 6.0 [20.947] (II) Loading extension SELinux [20.947] (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER [20.947] (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension [20.947] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA [20.947] (II) Loading extension DPMS [20.947] (II) Loading extension XVideo [20.947] (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation [20.947] (II) Loading extension X-Resource [20.947] (II) LoadModule: dbe [20.947] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so [20.947] (II) Module dbe: vendor=X.Org Foundation [20.947]compiled for 1.11.2, module version = 1.0.0 [20.947]Module class: X.Org Server Extension [20.947]ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 6.0 [20.947] (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER [20.947] (II) LoadModule: glx [20.947] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia/libglx.so [21.179] (II) Module glx: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation [21.179]compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 [21.179]Module class: X.Org Server Extension [21.179] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 290.10 Wed Nov 16
Re: Display resolution problems
On Thu November 24 2011 6:07:46 PM Craig White wrote: no reason to ask essentially the same question just 2 hours after the last time you asked and a most reasonable suggestion was made. Craigare you sure I asked in THIS list? If so, I apologize. I'm having some issues with the new version of KMail/KDEPIM and I THOUGHT I asked essentially the same question on three different lists, hoping that SOMEONE would have the answer in ONE of the lists. To date, I have received ONE reply, and yes, it was on THIS list. As I say, I thought I asked on several different lists, but I apologize if I asked on this list multiple times in a short period of time. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Can't increase screen resolution (F16, KDE)
I have Fedora 16 with a 19 flat-panel screen capable of 1280x1024, however, Fedora / KDE seems to not realize my monitor is capable of this resolution, and only offers a max resolution of 1024x768, which is freaking HUGE on my monitor! How do I fix this??? I *know* my monitor is capable of 1280x1024 because that's the resolution I had when I was running Fedora 15. I have an on-board Geforce video card and have already upgraded to the nVidia drivers and disabled Noveau, hoping that would fix it, but it has not. I'm becoming more and more disenchanted with Fedora/KDE and am seriously thinking of wiping the whole freakin' thing and going to XUbuntu or something a bit more user-friendly! Sheesh! I've been using Fedora since before there WAS a Fedora and maybe it's just KDE, but this has to be the toughest upgrade I've done in a LNG time! C'mon, folks... help a guy out here, please! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Display resolution problems
I just did a fresh install of Fedora 16 on my system which has an integrated Geforce video card ( GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a/PCI/SSE2) and I *know* my monitor (flat panel 19 Dell LCD) is capable of 1280x1024, but I can't seem to get it to go to that resolution. I know it works, because A) I do it on my Dell Optiplex in Windows and B) I did it before in Fedora 15. Suddenly 1280x1024 is not an option. How do I fix this? I've installed the nVidia drivers and rebooted, but I still can't get 1280x1024. Can someone please help me? Thanks! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: SELINUX is kicking my butt!
Quoting Fedora User fedora...@gmail.com: You changed the wrong line. I suspect that you changed SELINUXTYPE rather than the line about 4 lines above it that is just SELINUX. Tried that too. Didn't work. One thing I probably should have mentioned that MIGHT make a difference is that when I was reinstalling, I did not set up the old home partition, rather I just went in after the fact and edited /etc/fstab to point to the old home partition for /home and changed permissions. I'm getting ready to scrap that install and start over with a fresh install, getting rid of all my old PATA drives at the same time. Hopefully this time when I specify that I want that partition as my /home directory, it will adjust permissions accordingly and I can safely disable SELINUX. I will post back with the results once I get done re-reinstalling. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: SELINUX is kicking my butt!
Quoting Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com: On 21/11/11 00:00, Thomas Cameron wrote: 2) If SELinux is really disabled, your boot problem almost certainly isn't SELinux related. 3) How did you disable SELinux? By that I mean, exactly what file did you edit and how did you edit it? Did you use perl or sed or the like against /etc/sysconfig/selinux? Or did you directly edit /etc/selinux/config? Thomas I would say using the policycoreutils-GUI I manually edited /etc/selinux/config. I tried editing (separately) both lines that say selinux= but both coincidentally FUBARed. You could be correct about it being a coincidence. I'm moving my /home partition to a new drive and getting rid of the PATA drive that it was on. Once that is done, I will no longer have any PATA drives in the system and will reinstall again. Hopefully once I tell the installer to use the old /home partition as /home again, it will adjust permissions, etc. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
SELINUX is kicking my butt!
I just installed a new boot drive and installed F16. Since I absolutely HATE SELINUX, I've gone into the config file and set selinux to disabled. Now when I attempt to boot, I get an error that it can't find the policy file and it hangs the system and won't let it go any further. How do I fix this Do I just copy the policy file from another location or what??? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: SELINUX is kicking my butt!
Quoting Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net: normally i disable SELinux with selinux=0 as kernel-boot-param you can edit the kernel-line in GRUB menu directly before the system get started I can't get that to work for me. :( I've since gone in and edited the config file BACK to targeted as well as editing the file so that the TOP selinux= command is set to disabled and THAT FUBARed the system as well. :( -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: problems while installing softwares
On Sun October 30 2011, rohit bishnoi wrote: i have fedora 16 beta 64-bit installed on system. when i try to install software i will get some error mesgs like below... *[root@bishnoi rohit]# ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin bash: ./AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory [root@bishnoi rohit]# sh VP_Suite_Linux.sh Unpacking JRE ... Preparing JRE ... VP_Suite_Linux.sh: bin/unpack200: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory Error unpacking jar files. Abortin*g. plz tell me wtz tht prblm. thnks in advance.. For Adobe Reader, try chmod +x AdbeRdr9.4-1_i486linux_enu.bin and see if that helps with trying to run it. By default it is not executable. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HELP!!! System messed up!
On Mon October 17 2011, Mike Chambers wrote: On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 00:28 -0400, D. Marshall Lemcoe Jr. wrote: You might just completely remove Xorg and then completely reinstall it to fix your xorg.conf issue. What xorg.conf issue? The *way* Fedora/X Org works now is you DONT need the .conf file anymore. It's suppose to just work. Not sure of his problem, but he shouldn't need an xorg.conf file to fix it. Right... if I go into systemsettings and try and specify any of the settings, it creates an xorg.conf file which pretty much messes everything up... no X, etc. What happened was I'm on a KVM, and I let the system boot up while the KVM was switched to another computer. As usually happens the screen was HUGE! I tried rebooting, I tried specifying the settings, nothing worked. Now my best resolution is 1024x768 and I need to go to 1280x1024. Any time I try and specify any settings in systemsettings, it messes things up as mentioned, so I'm at a loss. Any suggestions? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HELP!!! System messed up!
Ok... I have switched from noveau driver to the nVidia driver. That helps. Except I use XFCE4 as my window manager and the main bar at the top of every window is missing on the local console. HOWEVER, it works fine in VNC. I don't understand why, since both the local console and the VNC session use xfce4 as the window manager. How do I figure out WHY VNC works but not local console? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HELP!!! System messed up!
On Mon October 17 2011, Robert Myers wrote: VNC apparently correctly anticipates what's on the other end. Your system is confused about either your video card or the monitor for your console. Were it me, I'd be plugging in other video cards and/or monitors just to see what happens. I would also take seriously the possibility that part of your disk is trashed. Could be part of my disk is trashed. I logged into Gnome as a test (didn't like the lack of desktop icons, another reason I don't use KDE any more!) and got notification of a hard drive error. I'm working on getting a new hard drive, so hopefully I'll be up and running 100% in a few days. Might have to do a refresh install of xfce4 or something and see if that helps. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HELP!!! System messed up!
On Mon October 17 2011, suvayu ali wrote: If you want to salvage your data, I would recommend ddrescue. It worked wonderfully for me. Thanks. It's not that bad. Yet. I just know that SMARTD is apparently telling me that the drive is failing. I don't have a replacement yet, but hopefully I'll have one in the next day or so. Then I have to figure out how to get the data to the new drive and make it the boot drive (my boot drive is a small PATA drive and it's the one that is failing!) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HELP!!! System messed up!
On Mon October 17 2011, Tim wrote: Usually, you can CTRL+ALT+F2 (or one of the other F keys), over to a text console, on the same computer, to use the command line. If that works, then it saves you a bit of hassle to work through this problem. Though, it can happen that the graphics system gets so screwed up you will have to SSH in. You should probably post the xorg.conf file for some other people to look for anything wrong with it. The other suggestion of removing and reinstalling X is usually bad advice. If there's a problem with the package, you'll be back at square one. The re-install will fail, just the same. Likewise, if the package is fine, but a configuration file isn't. Most configuration files that are not provided directly in the package, such as ones created later on, or ones that were modified, will not be removed during a package removal. A re-install will use the same configuration file. If you think the installation of a package is broken, you can check for that using the rpm tools own verification options. yeah...things were b0rked so badly I couldn't CTL+ALT+F2. I did manage to SSH in from another box on the LAN and went to runlevel 3, deleted the config file and went back to runlevel 5. Switching to the nVidia driver helped a LOT. I don't know the noveau driver was updated recently or not, but something was definitely hosed. Also, the nVidia driver didn't fix it 100%. I'm still having issues with the keyboard and mouse not responding 100% in xfce4. I wish I knew where that config file was kept as I might try renaming the config file and doing a repair install and see if that came with a new config file. I did find some default settings files for xfce, but I don't know if there is a per-user file somewhere that might be more important. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HELP!!! System messed up!
On Mon October 17 2011, suvayu ali wrote: I don't mean to insist, but I had a similar problem and I was able to replicate the old drive along with the partition table and LVM onto the replacement drive using ddrescue. The procedure is documented in this post. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/377186/focus= 377478 Just thought this might be an appropriate (and simple) way to tackle your situation. Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. I've got several drives so I need to make sure I know which one I'm copying from and to. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
HELP!!! System messed up!
A little while ago I inadvertently killed power to my F15 box. Now I'm unable to get a better screen size than 1024X768 (previous was 1280x1024) as well I'm having problems with my keyboard and mouse. The keyboard will suddenly not work any more (i.e. I can't type) and the mouse will somewhat work -- I can open a new console, etc, but I can't make that the active window. I have already tried using the nvidia-xconfig, but that screws it up worse. (yes, I have an nVidia graphics chipset -- driver is noveau according to /proc/modules) If I have an xorg.conf file it REALLY hoses the system and I don't get ANY graphics whatsoever and I have to rely on SSH-ing into the box to init 3, delete the xorg.conf and restart x, at which time it's somewhat normal. Anyone got any ideas what the heck I did and how to fix it? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: HELP!!! System messed up!
Quoting D. Marshall Lemcoe Jr. fo...@lemcoe.com: You might just completely remove Xorg and then completely reinstall it to fix your xorg.conf issue. So you think I ought to try yum remove Xorg and let it go? Will that mess up any of my personal settings or will those likely not be touched? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(
On Thu October 13 2011, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: The adults also realize that Fedora already has a process pretty much exactly as Thomas described, and participate in it if they want to. Really? What is it? How do we access this wondrous special forum on changing device names on a whim of a dev? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Remote Access
On Fri October 14 2011, Joe Zeff wrote: [snip] And, I just figured out the correct response to anybody who thinks it's legitimate to do something like this because I think I need it even after being told that it's against company policy: What *was* your username? clickedy-click! Hehe...reminds me of an old BOFH story! :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I need to make an install iso of the OS the way it is after I've laboured for several hours to customized it...
On Tue October 4 2011, Joe Zeff wrote: No, because there's no point to such a thing. When you install F14 and run update for the first time, you get the most recent version of everything. Doing it your way would update you step-by-step across hundreds of updates for some of the programs, installing version after version until you reached the present. Why do it the hard way when the default is easier and faster? Agreed... just back up your config files, either on-line or to some sort of removable media and then when you reinstall, copy the config files back over. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I need to make an install iso of the OS the way it is after I've laboured for several hours to customized it...
On Tue October 4 2011, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/04/2011 10:06 AM, Linda McLeod wrote: Is there a link to download ALL Fedora-14 updates all at once in one huge file..? All I've found is a link to download each update separately... No, because there's no point to such a thing. When you install F14 and run update for the first time, you get the most recent version of everything. Doing it your way would update you step-by-step across hundreds of updates for some of the programs, installing version after version until you reached the present. Why do it the hard way when the default is easier and faster? Maybe a kickstart ??? I don't know anything about making those, but they are supposed to be a way to make identical custom installations, so maybe that would fill the bill? That and backing up the config files??? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.
On Sat October 1 2011, David wrote: The company that I work for has it's own server and the software that I use every day, provided by them, runs on Windows. None of it has a Linux clone and I seriously doubt that any of it ever will. And none of it will run on WINE (why would anyone actually try to do that?) or in any emulator (again why even try?) so I use what works. Just to jump into the middle of this here... I'm the IT manager for a small carpet manufacturer in Georgia (USA.) We run our production from order entry to shipping the carpet out the door off some software that runs on the AS/400. I got tired of having to deal with machines running Windows 98 as smart terminals so I got some higher-end clunker machines (P3/P4) and installed Linux on 'em. I tried to get the official AS/400 IBM client for Linux to work. Couldn't do it. Wouldn't work -- too many dependencies. I tried the Linux version of a freeware Terminal Emulator. It, too, had too many dependencies. So, I installed the Windows version of the SAME Terminal Emulation software that I'd tried to install previously using Wine and it installed and ran perfectly. All that to say that you might be surprised at what will run in Wine under Linux! :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: gnome3 - the funny side
On Mon September 26 2011, Ian Malone wrote: On the basis that you need to laugh every so often. http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/AppletsTransition: Desktop design copouts Then there are applets that are about making it marginally faster to do things that should be obvious and fast to do without an applet to do them. If these are useful, we've misdesigned. Connect to a Server... Disk Mounter Lock Screen Log Out... Run Application... Search for Files... Shutdown.. Seriously... Disk Mounter, log out, run application, lock screen, command- line. Those are not core apps Sheesh! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: gnome3 - the funny side
On Mon September 26 2011, Michael Ekstrand wrote: Actually, the point is that they *are* core functions, and should therefore not need an applet to be efficient and discoverable. Ahh... Gotcha. Log out and lock screen are built in to the shell (account menu at top right, keyboard shortcuts). Disk mounts and Connect to Server are handled by Nautilus. Run application is also built in (Super/Activities to search applications, Alt+F2 for run prompt). Not sure what the plan is for Search, but I think it's integrated with Nautilus, will be integrated with Documents, I wouldn't be surprised if it's integrated with the shell at some point. That leaves Shutdown, which is a much-debated pain point. I do use the Alternative Status Menu extension gives me a normal Shut Down button[1], and there's Alt-clicking the Log Off button. - Michael Well, I don't use Gnome myself, so it's a moot point to me. However, I think there ought to be an icon / app for a terminal window. I like the way my current DE (XFCE) has the option on the start menu for logout etc. I admit I don't miss the run option. Virtually every time I want to do something like that I just go to my open terminal window and type whatever command I need to execute (such as KCALC for calculator, etc.) I like the way some DE's give you an icon on the desktop for your removable media when it's mounted (automatically, most of the time.) Not sure how Gnome 3 will handle that. It also doubles as an unmount when you right-click on that icon. Sure you can just pull up Nautilus or a terminal window and handle it that way, but it's nice to have a desktop icon to unmount or access removable media. Maybe I'm just too lazy. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments
On Mon September 26 2011, Aaron Konstam wrote: Ok, I tried XFCE. I find it far superior to LXDE. You can find things in a reasonable fashion. It shares with LXDE the problem of not being able to change the backgrounds. I think people who balk at Gnome 3 would find it easy to use. Adding things to the panel are much easier than with LXDE. I am a little confused with Mixer as Volume control but such is life. Right-click on the desktop, select Desktop Settings. How hard is THAT to change the desktop background? Then just click on the + below the window after selecting single image and voila, you've got your favorite image as your desktop window. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Comparitive Desktop Environments
On Mon September 26 2011, Joe Zeff wrote: On 09/26/2011 01:35 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: If I understand, right click on desk top or terminal to change color, image, etc. Bob The problem is there's no way to browse for an image, you're stuck with the stock ones unless you know where they're stored and add another one. Personally, I use wallpapoz and let them shift at random. Incorrect. You can use the + button below the list of images to search for new images that are not listed. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Need KVM switch
I've got two computers -- a Windows XP machine and a Fedora 15 box. I am sending back the new KVM I bought since it doesn't work at all for my Linux box (just sits there and doesn't detect that it's plugged in.) It also doesn't pass along the unifying receiver for my new wireless keyboard and mouse from Logitech. I need a USB KVM for my Windows machine as I'm currently using a PS2 with an adapter. I think the only reason that is working is because my old Belkin is a powered KVM and doesn't rely on power from the systems. Anyone got a KVM they can recommend? Bonus if it'll share the speakers with multiple computers. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Need KVM switch
On Sat September 17 2011, Robert M. Witkop wrote: I have had good experience with Iogear. I used the two port when I only had one windoz and on Linux. Then I move to their 4 port for one windoz and 2 Linux. I currently runnit the miniveiw ultra 8 port on 3 windoz and 5 Linux platforms and it is performing well. I had tried Belkin, but found that it doesn't work, and the support is poor (as in none). Well, all's I know is it wouldn't even see the F15 box here. I was using a USB-only KVM, because my Windoze box is USB-only. The only reason it's working with a PS2-USB adapter is that my Belkin is powered, so apparently that makes the difference. *shrug* I *have* to have a USB KVM for my Dell Windoze box. I would *like* for it to work with my Logitech unifying receiver, but I guess I can deal without that if I have to. Any suggestions for a USB KVM that *works*??? Oh, and I give up on iogear... after getting the same Indian tech on the same crappy voip line twice in a row, I'm not going to worry about it. I just won't buy Iogear any more. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: LXDE is an acceptable substitute for Gnome 2
On Fri September 16 2011, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: LXDE runs way smoother than Gnome 2 in my experience. FWIW, I'm running XFCE at home, mainly because I'm connecting through an SSH tunnel and using VNC to view my desktop at home and I need a very lightweight DE. I still have to drop the color depth to 64 colors in order to get a responsive desktop. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Help... screwed up video config
I somehow managed to screw up my video config by changing the default monitor and now X won't start. I told it I had a Dell E1701 flat panel. Turns out I actually have a Dell E1703FP. Well, I checked and the scan ranges are identical, so it shouldn't matter. I've tried deleting the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and re-running system-config-display, but it always craps out. This is on an integrated nVidia chipset graphics card. I'm afraid I don't know the exact, but I'm not using special binary drivers or anything, just standard Vesa drivers. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Help... screwed up video config (RESOLVED)
On Fri September 16 2011, John Aldrich wrote: I somehow managed to screw up my video config by changing the default monitor and now X won't start. I told it I had a Dell E1701 flat panel. Turns out I actually have a Dell E1703FP. Well, I checked and the scan ranges are identical, so it shouldn't matter. I've tried deleting the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and re-running system-config-display, but it always craps out. This is on an integrated nVidia chipset graphics card. I'm afraid I don't know the exact, but I'm not using special binary drivers or anything, just standard Vesa drivers. One of my fellow geeks on the local LUG's list suggested removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/* and rebooting. I did that (actually just renamed the files so they wouldn't be read by the system) and it's back to normal now. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Power Outage, USB drive not mounting
On Mon August 1 2011, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 08/01/2011 02:42 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: OK. I had this problem back in December and thought I had it all worked out. A cold boot with the drive disconnected did the trick. Now why that was needed... Just because it could be ornery. ;D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
On Wed July 6 2011, Andras Simon wrote: I'm not sure I understand what you want to achieve, but man system-setup-keyboard may help you. What would one put in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard if one DID want to enable CTL+ALT+BKSP to kill X? I looked at the man page for system-setup-keyboard, but it doesn't say *anything* about re-enabling CTL+ALT+BKSP... I, for one, would find it convenient to re-enable that, as there are times (such as an updated graphics driver) where it would be convenient to restart X without having to completely change init levels or restart the whole computer. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Ok... I just got pointed to a Wiki article for ArchLinux that describes how to do this for KDE (which is all /I/ am concerned about *grin*) Basically you open up Systemsettings, go to input devices, select the keyboard, go to the advanced tab and expandthe key sequence to kill x server and select CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and then apply and quit systemsettings. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Name resolution
On Tue July 5 2011, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 12:52 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: might I suggest trying Google Public DNS servers? 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.8.4 are the IP addresses. My ISP apparently runs some sort of filtering and occasionally I have problems with their DNS, so I switched to Google and that pretty much resolves the issue for me. :D I run my own DNS server, for a similar reason: Every ISP I've tried has a crappy DNS server. Before I did that, I had to put some domain's IP into my hosts file, because their DNS server usually gave no answer. yeah... I just can't be bothered to set up BIND. That's what things like Google Public DNS is for. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Name resolution
On Tue July 5 2011, 夜神 岩男 wrote: No, the purpose of Google Public DNS is to give Google insight into every network query you make. Your filterbubble is heavily influenced by your history record in Google's DNS system if you have dodged the other ways of tracking. This sort of profiling goes further than syndicate cookies and trackers ever could -- and is a brilliant, if somewhat seductively evil, idea; so long as it is being used on someone other than me. Ok... so maybe OpenDNS if you don't like Google. There's also a list here: http://forums.techguy.org/networking/460800-free-public-dns-servers.html -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Name resolution
On Tue July 5 2011, 夜神 岩男 wrote: No, the purpose of Google Public DNS is to give Google insight into every network query you make. Your filterbubble is heavily influenced by your history record in Google's DNS system if you have dodged the other ways of tracking. This sort of profiling goes further than syndicate cookies and trackers ever could -- and is a brilliant, if somewhat seductively evil, idea; so long as it is being used on someone other than me. http://dontbubble.us/ Avoiding Google entirely has brought a great deal of standardization and rationality back to my organization -- that we didn't realize was beginning to get shaky until just recently. Such an insidious thing, filtered and tracked search. Another list of free, public DNS servers is listed here: http://www.joomlaspan.com/technology/blazing-fast-and-free-public-dns- servers.php -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Name resolution
On Mon July 4 2011, Eric Tanguy wrote: Since few days now i have a name resolution problem. For example when i entrer a new address in firefox it returns that the name can't be resolved. Reloading the page and firefox display fine the page. I have the same problem from thunderbird or cli using yum. The network is up using network manager with ethernet and dhcp. The name server is the box ip. This configuration is the same as other pc on the same network and these pc don't have any problem so i think the problem is specific to this f15 machine but i don't how to investigate. Any help ? Thanks Eric Eric: In addition to the suggestions given by anyone else, might I suggest trying Google Public DNS servers? 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.8.4 are the IP addresses. My ISP apparently runs some sort of filtering and occasionally I have problems with their DNS, so I switched to Google and that pretty much resolves the issue for me. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Google Chrome browser and Kwallet
On Thu June 30 2011, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: $ google-chrome --help [...] --password-store=basic|gnome|kwallet Set the password store to use. The default is to automatically detect based on the desktop environment. basic selects the built in, unencrypted password store. gnome selects Gnome keyring. kwallet selects (KDE) KWallet. (Note that KWallet may not work reliably outside KDE.) Maybe the autodetection is buggy. I know that on one installation I get the nagging KDE Wallet window all the time (even when revisiting a page I've been on before in the same session), while on the other I never see it. Both are using KDE. Had a similar problem with Chrome just pop up out of the blue. I changed the web browser in systemsettings from google chrome to google-chrome -- password-store=kwallet and ran like that for a couple days, then gave up and removed the --passwordstore=... bit and voila! I am now no longer propmted for my KWallet password. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Google Chrome browser and Kwallet
On Thu June 30 2011, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Had a similar problem with Chrome just pop up out of the blue. I changed the web browser in systemsettings from google chrome to google-chrome -- password-store=kwallet and ran like that for a couple days, then gave up and removed the --passwordstore=... bit and voila! I am now no longer propmted for my KWallet password. :D Thanks, maybe I'll try that on the one that keeps nagging. From your description, clearly it is buggy. May also need to go in and turn on/off sync. I messed with that bit as well. Currently disabled, and I don't recall if it was ENabled or DISabled when I changed that. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chrome asks for Gnome Keyring password???? (SOLVED???)
On Tue June 21 2011, mike cloaked wrote: If you now switch on sync with a gmail account, then allow time for it to synchronise... and then run it without the --password-store flag, does that then allow sync to put the passwords in the local encrypted sqlite file instead of kwallet after which you can then switch of sync? Dunno. I'll give it a shot. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chrome asks for Gnome Keyring password???? (NOT SOLVED)
On Tue June 21 2011, John Aldrich wrote: On Tue June 21 2011, mike cloaked wrote: If you now switch on sync with a gmail account, then allow time for it to synchronise... and then run it without the --password-store flag, does that then allow sync to put the passwords in the local encrypted sqlite file instead of kwallet after which you can then switch of sync? NUTZ! Despite the fact that KWAllet was already open (for email) I still got prompted for the freakin' password by Chrome! I guess I'll just live with it! Frustrating and annoying as hell, though!!! I wish Chrome would just store the freakin' passwords itself!! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Chrome asks for Gnome Keyring password????
Why does Google Chrome want my Gnome Keyring password? I don't use Gnome. I use KDE/Openbox. It *only* happens when I'm accessing my computer from remote using VNC, though. It does NOT happen when I'm accessing my computer from the local console. Don't know if that gives a hint as to why it's trying to open the Gnome keyring, but I thought I ought to mention it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chrome asks for Gnome Keyring password????
On Mon June 20 2011, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Chrome is a Gnome app. So is Firefox. So is Thunderbird. The fact that you're using KDE is irrelevant. The apps use the Gnome libraries and the Gnome keyring. As to why it only happens with VNC, I've no idea. Do you mean it happens with each new VNC session, or with each new instance of Chrome? I use Evolution under KDE and have to go through *two* password checks when starting it in a new (local) login session, but within the session I can stop and restart Evo with no further checks. (BTW with F14 it used to be just one check. This is progress?) Ahh... I did not know that Chrome was a Gnome app. It appears that I can close and restart Chrome within the same session and not get prompted. When I go home and start Chrome on the local console, it does not prompt me for a password, but the next day when I log in from remote (SSH tunnel still going from the previous session) it will prompt me for a password again. Basically the steps to reproduce are as follows: 1) Log in from remote -- password request 2) Close programs, close viewer, go home. 3) Start Chrome on the local console -- NO password request 4) Go to work, log in from remote, password request. Almost like logging in on the local console is clearing a cookie or something. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chrome asks for Gnome Keyring password????
On Mon June 20 2011, mike cloaked wrote: On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:38 AM, John Aldrich jmaldr...@yahoo.com wrote: Why does Google Chrome want my Gnome Keyring password? I don't use Gnome. I use KDE/Openbox. It *only* happens when I'm accessing my computer from remote using VNC, though. It does NOT happen when I'm accessing my computer from the local console. Don't know if that gives a hint as to why it's trying to open the Gnome keyring, but I thought I ought to mention it. There was an issue some while ago related to chrome storing passwords (for web pages) in the gnome-keyring which was largely transparent - and then chrome moved to local encrypted store instead - if you are on the most up to date version of chrome and had your passwords stored in the gnome keyring then there is a procedure that will allow you to get your passwords back into the local profile after which it will not need the gnome-keyring any more. The process is as follows: Turn off password sync (if it is on) and quit Chrome Restart it with the --password-store=detect command line to temporarily enable GNOME keyring integration. Re-enable password sync in Preferences, syncing your passwords to your Google Account. Restart Chrome without the --password-store=detect command line to add your synced passwords to Chrome's basic password manager. Once you have done that you should be free of gnome-keyring for chrome, and then you can also copy the chrome profile to another machine and it will see passwords as normal. http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=1230517 Didn't work for me... :-( -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chrome asks for Gnome Keyring password????
It's not THAT big a deal... I just have to type my login password again, but it's annoying. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chrome asks for Gnome Keyring password???? (SOLVED???)
On Mon June 20 2011, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Not really. The way you describe it, your home console is always logged on, so you don't need to be authenticated again. OTOH your remote session via SSH is logged out when you go home (even though the SSH connection remains open), so when you log in again next day you have to present new credentials. The two sessions (home and remote) are completely distinct and separate as far as keyring access is concerned. This is consistent with what I'm saying. I think I have resolved it... I pulled up the systemsettings GUI and changed the default web browser to google-chrome -- password-store=kwallet and then restarted the VNC Server. That seems to have resolved the issue when the steps on the Chrome FAQ didn't. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Adieu, Fedora
On Mon June 13 2011, suvayu ali wrote: (snip) Isn't this easy to follow? Maybe there could be a one time splash screen reminding a new user on first login that the documentation is already on their system. that's a very good idea... and maybe put a shortcut on the desktop to it...labeled documentation or something similar. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
