Re: teal(?) messages during boot.
On Thu, 2024-07-25 at 08:43 -0400, Go Canes wrote: > [Trimmed a lot of text - this is all regarding teal messages showing > up when booting.] > > Last night I was troubleshooting a problem and booted with "norhgb > noquiet", and I see the teal messages (this is on F39). As near as I > can tell the teal messages are just the stdout from the programs > executing during boot. They seem more of the "informational" or "FYI" > type of thing. But I do not claim any authority or expertise on the > subject ;-). > Oh I agree! I have seen no indication of error messages or even warnings. This (teal messages) is not something I'm worried about, more just curious. It could, however, still be a bug in that something is setting the colour and not resetting it. I'm reasonably(!) sure that I didn't see the problem with F39 though. As I updated my laptop to F40 soon after it was released, perhaps an update since then has caused it to appear in F39. As Fedora uses a graphical boot by default (AFAIK), I suspect most users have no idea that this is occurring. On the Linux servers at work, none of which run Fedora, I always disable the graphical boot in order to see if there are any problems when a server boots up. I do the same on my home laptop (running F40), which is where I am seeing the problem. It may also explain why the 'problem' has not been reported. I'm going to play a bit more, run F40 under KVM and perhaps F39 if I can get it.. John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [https://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, University of Plymouth accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. University of Plymouth does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: teal(?) messages during boot.
On Wed, 2024-07-24 at 23:20 +, John Horne via users wrote:
> On Wed, 2024-07-24 at 14:08 -0600, home user via users wrote:
> > On 7/24/24 9:40 AM, Joe Wulf via users wrote:
> >
> > > 1. Look through the output of 'sudo dmesg' or just 'dmesg' when logged
> > > in
> > > as root. Another option is to review '/var/log/boot.log', assuming it is
> > > accumulating records when the system is booting (check
> > > /etc/rsyslog/rsyslog.conf). 'journalctl' might also be a viable option
> > > (see man pages for each of these).
> >
> > I had already looked at both boot.log and the boot log file for today. No
> > hint as to which entries were teal-colored during boot. dmesg does some
> > colorization, but it was different than what I saw during boot. Likewise
> > journalctl. So I am unable to distinguish messages that I should pay
> > attention to. It might help to know that I am not a sysadmin.
> >
> > There is no /etc/rsyslog/ directory. rsyslog.conf is in /etc/.
> >
> > > In general, I wouldn't know why a 'teal' color is just now appearing for
> > > certain boot messages. However, a few thoughts come to mind: Your
> > > monitor
> > > is changing performance, or maybe the graphics card for your system is
> > > changing its performance (i.e. degrading)... maybe. Or something
> > > configuration-wise was done locally to your system, or a new RPM package
> > > made an untoward adjustment.
> >
> > Not a monitor issue: everything looks as it should when using the work
> > station.
> > Not a graphics card issue; same reason.
> > I also checked memory (MemTest86+); no hint of trouble.
> > I also checked the hard drive with GSmartControl; no hint of trouble.
> > I have no real doubt that the teal coloration is deliberate color coding
> > like
> > that of "ls", but with a separate or different colorization scheme.
> >
> > > As for catching the messages visually, consider using your cell and
> > > recording the video of the boot cycle and then reviewing it during
> > > playback
> > > to //maybe// stop the motion and see something which otherwise goes by
> > > too
> > > fast. I've done this before and its sometimes valuable, and othertimes
> > > the
> > > screen clears/scrolls milliseconds after the necessary message. But, a
> > > combination of cellphone video and reviewing dmesg output might bring you
> > > very close to seeing messages which are relevant to your issue.
> >
> > I have neither cell phone nor camcorder nor camera. I have no way to
> > capture
> > the boot screens.
> >
> > > 2. Likely your bash user session has 'dircolors' enabled, and especially
> > > via aliases configured via ${HOME}/.bashrc. You can modify that file to
> > > suit your tastes (suggest making a backup copy first).
> > >
> > > R,
> > > -Joe
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 11:16:21 AM EDT, home user via users
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > (f39 workstation; 6.9.9-100.fc39.x86_64)
> > >
> > > Since last patching my stand-alone workstation last Thursday (July 18),
> > > I've been seeing messages during boot that are colored some strange color
> > > between green and blue (I'm calling it "teal"). Other boot message text
> > > is
> > > gray. I don't recall seeing "teal" messages before during boot. The
> > > messages scroll by too fast to catch what they're saying.
> > >
> > > question #1
> > > How do I find these "teal" boot messages so I can actually see what
> > > they're
> > > saying? "System Log", "Logs", "vim", "more", "less", "cat", "gvim" all
> > > do
> > > not show color. (I'm using gnome.)
> > >
> > > question #2
> > > When I do "ls", the output is colored:
> > > * some bluish color for directories;
> > > * magenta for image and video files;
> > > * green for "ordinary" (text, LibreOffice, PDF, etc.) data files;
> > > * bold green for executable files;
> > > and so on. The colors mean something. What does the "teal" in the boot
> > > logs mean?
> > > --
> >
> Hi,
>
> If it's any help, then I see the same thing - a teal colour for some boot
> messages. I just too
Re: teal(?) messages during boot.
On Wed, 2024-07-24 at 14:08 -0600, home user via users wrote:
> On 7/24/24 9:40 AM, Joe Wulf via users wrote:
>
> > 1. Look through the output of 'sudo dmesg' or just 'dmesg' when logged in
> > as root. Another option is to review '/var/log/boot.log', assuming it is
> > accumulating records when the system is booting (check
> > /etc/rsyslog/rsyslog.conf). 'journalctl' might also be a viable option
> > (see man pages for each of these).
>
> I had already looked at both boot.log and the boot log file for today. No
> hint as to which entries were teal-colored during boot. dmesg does some
> colorization, but it was different than what I saw during boot. Likewise
> journalctl. So I am unable to distinguish messages that I should pay
> attention to. It might help to know that I am not a sysadmin.
>
> There is no /etc/rsyslog/ directory. rsyslog.conf is in /etc/.
>
> > In general, I wouldn't know why a 'teal' color is just now appearing for
> > certain boot messages. However, a few thoughts come to mind: Your monitor
> > is changing performance, or maybe the graphics card for your system is
> > changing its performance (i.e. degrading)... maybe. Or something
> > configuration-wise was done locally to your system, or a new RPM package
> > made an untoward adjustment.
>
> Not a monitor issue: everything looks as it should when using the work
> station.
> Not a graphics card issue; same reason.
> I also checked memory (MemTest86+); no hint of trouble.
> I also checked the hard drive with GSmartControl; no hint of trouble.
> I have no real doubt that the teal coloration is deliberate color coding like
> that of "ls", but with a separate or different colorization scheme.
>
> > As for catching the messages visually, consider using your cell and
> > recording the video of the boot cycle and then reviewing it during playback
> > to //maybe// stop the motion and see something which otherwise goes by too
> > fast. I've done this before and its sometimes valuable, and othertimes the
> > screen clears/scrolls milliseconds after the necessary message. But, a
> > combination of cellphone video and reviewing dmesg output might bring you
> > very close to seeing messages which are relevant to your issue.
>
> I have neither cell phone nor camcorder nor camera. I have no way to capture
> the boot screens.
>
> > 2. Likely your bash user session has 'dircolors' enabled, and especially
> > via aliases configured via ${HOME}/.bashrc. You can modify that file to
> > suit your tastes (suggest making a backup copy first).
> >
> > R,
> > -Joe
> >
> > On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 11:16:21 AM EDT, home user via users
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > (f39 workstation; 6.9.9-100.fc39.x86_64)
> >
> > Since last patching my stand-alone workstation last Thursday (July 18),
> > I've been seeing messages during boot that are colored some strange color
> > between green and blue (I'm calling it "teal"). Other boot message text is
> > gray. I don't recall seeing "teal" messages before during boot. The
> > messages scroll by too fast to catch what they're saying.
> >
> > question #1
> > How do I find these "teal" boot messages so I can actually see what they're
> > saying? "System Log", "Logs", "vim", "more", "less", "cat", "gvim" all do
> > not show color. (I'm using gnome.)
> >
> > question #2
> > When I do "ls", the output is colored:
> > * some bluish color for directories;
> > * magenta for image and video files;
> > * green for "ordinary" (text, LibreOffice, PDF, etc.) data files;
> > * bold green for executable files;
> > and so on. The colors mean something. What does the "teal" in the boot
> > logs mean?
> > --
>
Hi,
If it's any help, then I see the same thing - a teal colour for some boot
messages. I just took it as a startup change between Fedora 39 and 40.
(BTW, 'teal' seems a good description of the colour.)
I'll see if I can catch a message or two next time I boot up. The coloured
services are probably going to be found in systemd somewhere.
John.
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Re: Copy broken in recent Firefox?
On Fri, 2024-02-23 at 14:39 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2024-02-23 at 08:38 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Is it just me, or is everyone else no longer able to highlight any > > multi-line chunk of code in Firefox, copy, then paste it somewhere else? > > > > I did some experiments. I can highlight a portion of a line, and that > > can be pasted in another window. Highlight anything more than a line, > > nothing gets pasted. I tested this on multiple sites, so it's not a single > > site playing games with me. Copy/paste does not work either via the mouse > > middle button click, nor right click's copy popup menu, nor the main menu's > > Edit/Copy/ > > > > So, what's broken: > > > > 1. Something here. > > 2. Firefox. > > Works for me. Firefox on KDE (X11), F39. > +1 Works for me. Firefox on KDE (Wayland), F39. Firefox: firefox-123.0-1.fc39.x86_64 > 1. Something here. > Seems like it. John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [https://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, University of Plymouth accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. University of Plymouth does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: how to remove rhgb quiet from grub & make it permanent
On Thu, 2023-10-12 at 18:14 +0200, GianPiero Puccioni wrote: > On 12/10/2023 16:08, olivares33561 via users wrote: > > Dear kind fedora users, > > > > I will like to remove rhgb quiet from grub. I have checked out some > > literature[1] and want to make sure not to mess up my system. I have a > > little problem, when loading system sometimes I don't get a desktop and > > have "No display" on screen. I have to manually poweroff system and > > restart it. > > When I restart I edit the grub loading and remove the "rhgb quiet" part so > > I can see what is going on. At the end a prompt says something in journal > > was bad and was deleted and I can login safely. This has happened several > > times on kernels 6.5.* series. > > > > I hope I can get a permanent removal of these so I do not have to edit the > > line and press F10 to boot it. I want to see what is happening and > > preventing X/Wayland to load up correctly. Running F38 if it is relevant. > > > > The easiest way is using "grubby", the command: > # grubby --remove-args="rhgb quiet" --update-kernel=DEFAULT > will remove "rhgb quiet" from the default kernel. You can use: > # grubby --info=DEFAULT > before and after to see the effect. > It should be permanent but it isn't: the next kernel update will revert to > "rhgb quiet" and you have to rerun grubby, it is a bug that, I hope, will be > fixed. > Use the '--update-kernel=ALL' option will change the cmdline options on all the installed kernels and any subsequently installed ones. John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [https://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, University of Plymouth accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. University of Plymouth does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Firewalld - "forward:" in output?
On Mon, 2023-08-07 at 10:50 -0400, David King wrote: > On 8/7/23 10:29, John Horne wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Would someone tell me to what the 'forward:' line in the 'firewall-cmd -- > > list-all' output refers: > It indicates whether or not intra zone forwarding is enabled -> > https://firewalld.org/2020/04/intra-zone-forwarding > Okay, thanks for that. A slightly more descriptive name than just 'forward:' might have helped :-) John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [https://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, University of Plymouth accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. University of Plymouth does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Firewalld - "forward:" in output?
Hello, Would someone tell me to what the 'forward:' line in the 'firewall-cmd --list- all' output refers: services: dhcpv6-client mdns ssh ports: protocols: forward: no masquerade: no forward-ports: I have a server with this set to 'yes', so would like to know what it means. Thanks, John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [https://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, University of Plymouth accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. University of Plymouth does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: can dnf exclude all kernel related packages when upgrading or installing packages
On Fri, 2022-09-30 at 13:41 +, old sixpack13 wrote: > > Dear advanced users and developers, > ... > > Or unfortunately, Dnf and also Yum do not allow users to skip or exclude > > kernel related > > packages? > ... > > sudo dnf upgrade --exclude=kernel-core > > will exclude: > - kernel and > - kernel-core and > - kernel-modules > > I'm unsure about kernel-headers, kernel-modules-extra (?), kernel-srpm- > macros. > but should be done with additional "--exclude=" > ___ > Or use '--exclude=kernel*' John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, University of Plymouth accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. University of Plymouth does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Just noticed strange thing in rkhunter report.
On Fri, 2022-09-30 at 14:05 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > > [04:18:49] /usr/libexec/gawk [ Warning ] > [04:18:49] Warning: Package manager verification has failed: > [04:18:49] File: /usr/libexec/gawk > [04:18:49] The symbolic link target has changed > Okay, so it is saying that the RPM package manager cannot verify the package (gawk) that contains the /usr/libexec/gawk file. The reason being because the link target is not what the package expects. If you run something like 'rpm -V gawk' you'll probably see an 'L' in there for the /usr/libexec/gawk file. What is should point to I could not say. You may be able to find out by looking in the '/var/lib/rkhunter/db/rkhunter.dat' file and the '.old' file, but that will only work if you haven't run RKH with '--propupd' since the warning. (On F36, it points to /usr/libexec/awk rather than just 'awk') John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, University of Plymouth accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. University of Plymouth does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Just noticed strange thing in rkhunter report.
On Fri, 2022-09-30 at 04:34 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > Gives a warning about gawk in /usr/libexec?? > What warning? John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, University of Plymouth accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. University of Plymouth does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F35 - audio a bit mixed up
On Mon, 2021-11-08 at 18:33 +, John Horne wrote: > Hello, > > I carried out an online upgrade of my laptop a couple of days ago from F34 to > F35. No problems with that, and all seemed to be okay. However, today I > noticed that audio was not working, or partially working for some things > (Zoom audio in particular seemed to fail completely). > > I noticed the previous list messages about swapping pulseaudio for pipewire, > but this seemed to make no difference. I have tried changing settings, but no > joy. So could someone who has audio working okay under F35 run some command- > line checks for me please: > Hello, Well I finally got audio working fine under pipewire. I'm just not sure what the problem was! I tried several things, changed settings, checked logs and started trawling through bug reports. It seems a few people gave up with pipewire, and reverted back to pulseaudio. So, feeling the same way, I decided to go back to pulseaudio. Bad move! My laptop then said it had no audio devices! So, I removed the 'pulseaudio' package, and reinstalled the pipewire packages that had been removed. I also reinstalled 'pipewire-alsa'. Surprise! Audio now worked :-) With the laptop I also have a docking station, external monitor with builtin speakers, an external webcam with mic, USB headphones with mic and some Hyper-X headphones (excellent by the way) with mic which can be plugged in via USB or the audio jack. I tested using the system settings, Amarok and (for work) MS Teams and Zoom. Using all sorts of combinations it all worked fine. Thanks for your help, John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, University of Plymouth accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. University of Plymouth does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: F35 - audio a bit mixed up
On Mon, 2021-11-08 at 15:45 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > On 2021-11-08 13:33, John Horne wrote: > > > > > > I carried out an online upgrade of my laptop a couple of days ago from F34 > > to F35. No problems with that, and all seemed to be okay. However, today I > > noticed that audio was not working, or partially working for some things > > (Zoom audio in particular seemed to fail completely). > > > > I noticed the previous list messages about swapping pulseaudio for > > pipewire, but this seemed to make no difference. I have tried changing > > settings, but no joy. So could someone who has audio working okay under F35 > > run some command-line checks for me please: > > > > 1) run: rpm -qa | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe' > > (so I can see that I have the right packages installed) > > > > 2) (as the logged in user) run: ps auxww | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe' > > (so I can see that I have the right processes running) > > > > 3) run: systemctl list-units --type=service --user | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe' > > (so I can see that the correct services are running) > > > > > > [frank@fedora ~]$ rpm -qa | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe' > libpipeline-1.5.3-3.fc35.x86_64 > pulseaudio-libs-15.0-2.fc35.x86_64 > pulseaudio-libs-glib2-15.0-2.fc35.x86_64 > pipewire-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64 > pipewire-libs-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64 > pipewire-alsa-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64 > pipewire-gstreamer-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64 > pipewire-jack-audio-connection-kit-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64 > pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64 > pipewire-utils-0.3.39-1.fc35.x86_64 > > [frank@fedora ~]$ > [frank@fedora ~]$ ps auxww | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe' > frank961 0.0 0.2 264836 10904 ?S /usr/bin/pipewire > frank 1160 0.0 0.1 236948 6828 ?S /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse > frank 1599 0.0 0.0 221792 2308 pts/0S+ 15:44 0:00 grep > --color=auto -iE pulse|pipe > > [frank@fedora ~]$ > [frank@fedora ~]$ systemctl list-units --type=service --user | grep -iE > 'pulse|pipe' >pipewire-pulse.service loaded > active running PipeWire PulseAudio >pipewire.service loaded > active running PipeWire Multimedia Service > [frank@fedora ~]$ > ___ > Thanks for that. Your output is the same as mine, except that I had the 'kde- settings-pulseaudio', 'pipewire0.2-libs' and 'pulseaudio-utils' packages installed as well. I have now removed them, but that made no difference. I'll check further in logs to see if there are any errors/warnings, otherwise I may see if I can revert back to just pulseaudio. John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, University of Plymouth accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. University of Plymouth does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
F35 - audio a bit mixed up
Hello, I carried out an online upgrade of my laptop a couple of days ago from F34 to F35. No problems with that, and all seemed to be okay. However, today I noticed that audio was not working, or partially working for some things (Zoom audio in particular seemed to fail completely). I noticed the previous list messages about swapping pulseaudio for pipewire, but this seemed to make no difference. I have tried changing settings, but no joy. So could someone who has audio working okay under F35 run some command- line checks for me please: 1) run: rpm -qa | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe' (so I can see that I have the right packages installed) 2) (as the logged in user) run: ps auxww | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe' (so I can see that I have the right processes running) 3) run: systemctl list-units --type=service --user | grep -iE 'pulse|pipe' (so I can see that the correct services are running) Thanks, John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, University of Plymouth accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. University of Plymouth does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: GRUB2 removing args "quiet" "rhgb" - grubby doesn't work
On Sat, 2020-03-14 at 08:55 +1100, Philip Rhoades wrote: > On 2020-03-14 05:12, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 03:10:04 +1100 > > Philip Rhoades wrote: > > > > > In the olden days I used to just edit the grub conf file and delete > > > these args manually - now I am supposed to use grubby but doing this: > > > > You're on olden days 2. Now you need to use grub2-editenv to > > edit the kernelopts variable that appears in grubenv: > > > > [root@tomh boot]# grub2-editenv list > > saved_entry=978f7d029ece40bdb521840cbd5473a1-5.5.8-200.fc31.x86_64 > > menu_auto_hide=1 > > boot_success=1 > > kernelopts=root=UUID=cd806f62-fc1c-4d65-8a9e-ea638915001b ro selinux=0 > > audit=0 rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau modprobe.blacklist=nouveau > > nvidia-drm.modeset=1 > > boot_indeterminate=0 > > I get: > > # grub2-editenv list > saved_entry=975d47e2dde64d12aefee7b93f8cdc77-5.3.7-301.fc31.x86_64 > kernelopts=root=UUID=e83e6521-3be4-4c4a-a012-89805709db3f ro > resume=UUID=d98a1bbc-fdaf-484c-9dc9-2f5fd062077d > boot_success=0 > boot_indeterminate=0 > > - so the args are already removed but I still don't get the verbose boot > . . > I'm just wondering why your output says 'boot_success=0', surely that should be a '1'. You could also run 'cat /proc/cmdline' to see what has actually been passed to the running kernel. Final point is that your kernel version (5.3.7) seems to be somewhat older than the other one mentioned above (5.5.8 - although I'm on 5.5.11 at this very moment). Perhaps doing an update and then a reboot may help. John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, University of Plymouth accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. University of Plymouth does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F27 - fail2ban not adding iptables chains
On Thu, 2017-11-30 at 14:30 +, John Horne wrote: > Hello, > > I recently upgraded my PC from F26 to F27, and noticed that fail2ban was not > adding the configured chains to iptables. This worked fine at F26. > Hi, Problem solved. F26 ran fail2ban version 0.9 (I think), and F27 runs version 0.10.0. At version 0.10 by default the chains are added only when something needs to be blocked. To get the old behaviour of adding the chains when fail2ban starts requires setting the 'actionstart_on_demand' action to false. Details about this can be found at https://github.com/fail2ban/fail2ban/issues/ 1755 John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, Plymouth University accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. Plymouth University does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
F27 - fail2ban not adding iptables chains
Hello, I recently upgraded my PC from F26 to F27, and noticed that fail2ban was not adding the configured chains to iptables. This worked fine at F26. There are no error messages in the log files (dmesg, /var/log/messages, /var/log/fail2ban.log). I have tried disabling SELinux, then restarting fail2ban but the chains still do not appear. I do not use firewalld so removed the fail2ban-firewalld package. I set the fail2ban log level to debug, and that showed the relevant iptables commands that would add the chains, but otherwise gave no indication of any error. (I used the logged iptables commands to manually add the chains, and all the commands worked fine.) If I log (using logger) appropriate log messages - such as an SSH failed authentication attempt - then that particular chain does appear in iptables. If I unban the logged IP address, then the chain remains in iptables. If I restart fail2ban, then the chain is no longer in iptables. I'm now a bit stumped as to what might be the problem. Anyone any ideas? Thanks, John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, Plymouth University accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. Plymouth University does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F26+Plasma: windows go to background when resized!
On Thu, 2017-08-31 at 16:59 +0200, Frédéric Bron wrote: > > When I resize a window by clicking in a corner, the windows goes in > > the background during dragging and remains there after dragging, this > > is very strange! > > > > This does not depend on the "windows behaviour" settings although I > > normally use "focus follow mouse" (I get the same behaviour with > > "click to get focus"). > I have no such problem. The window resizes as expected. > Oh, it is not only when resizing: whenever I click on the title bar of > a window, it goes to the background! > Nope. Clicking on the title bar does nothing. However, in the 'System settings- > Window behaviour->Titlebar Actions' the titlebar double-click option is set to 'Nothing' :-) John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, Plymouth University accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. Plymouth University does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F26: in konsole vim shows $q q at startup!
On Thu, 2017-08-31 at 16:43 +0200, Frédéric Bron wrote: > Hi, > > When I open vim in konsole, it shows $q q at startup. If I insert > text, $q q is replaced by the text I typed. > gvim has no issue. > vim in terminator is fine. > This has already been reported at https://github.com/vim/vim/issues/2008 I leave you to go through all the comments about it! I use KDE, so added 'set term=konsole-256color' to my .vimrc file. John. -- John Horne | Senior Operations Analyst | Technology and Information Services University of Plymouth | Drake Circus | Plymouth | Devon | PL4 8AA | UK [http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, Plymouth University accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. Plymouth University does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fortinet VPN and NetworkManager
On Wed, 2016-10-19 at 07:26 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I think I may see the "issue". > > For all the other VPNs there are packages such as... > > plasma-nm-openconnect-5.8.1-0.1.fc24.x86_64 > plasma-nm-openvpn-5.8.1-0.1.fc24.x86_64 > plasma-nm-mobile-5.8.1-0.1.fc24.x86_64 > plasma-nm-vpnc-5.8.1-0.1.fc24.x86_64 > plasma-nm-pptp-5.8.1-0.1.fc24.x86_64 > plasma-nm-strongswan-5.8.1-0.1.fc24.x86_64 > > There isn't a > > plasma-nm-fortisslvpn > > package. > Hello, Thanks for the reply, and for investigating this. As far as I can tell this has already been reported to KDE: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355079 Unfortunately using openfortivpn from the command line failed (it seems the routing was messed up a bit). Using the Fortinet vendor Linux client worked. If I get time I'll look into this later on. Thanks, John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK [http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, Plymouth University accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. Plymouth University does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fortinet VPN and NetworkManager
Hello, I am trying to connect my Fedora 24 laptop to a Fortinet SSL VPN service using NetworkManager. I have installed openfortivpn, NetworkManager-fortisslvpn and NetworkManager- fortisslvpn-gnome. However, using KDE, clicking on the networks icon on the toolbar, and then the 'Configure network connections...' icon shows my devices and connections. If I click on 'Add', under 'VPN' it shows VPN types openconnect, vpnc and openswan, but nothing about Fortinet. As anyone got this working and created a connection to a Fortinet device using NetworkManager? Thanks, John. -- -------- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK [http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, Plymouth University accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. Plymouth University does not accept responsibility for any changes made after it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE mailing list?
On Sat, 2016-01-23 at 12:41 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 19:05:42 + > > You may have somehow managed to find the old mailman2 instance. > We have redirects to the current mailman3 instance, but there's some > ways to get the old setup (mostly so old links to archives still > work). > > You want to go to: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/kde.lists.fedoraproject.o > rg/ > > and login and subscribe to the list. > Well I susbscribed, but when I tried to add an email address all I get is a 'Server Error (500)' when I try and confirm it. John. -- ---- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
KDE mailing list?
Hello, Does anyone know what is happening with the Fedora KDE mailing list? I joined the list a few weeks ago now, and sent a message to it. I have not received any messages from the list, and according to the archives it seems to have just stopped last November. I tried emailing the list maintainer, but again got no response at all. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Favorite newsreader for fedora22?
On Wed, 2015-09-23 at 20:38 -0400, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to check out comp.mail and a number of messaging based > newsgroups, and can't really figure out Google's usenet web interface > to be able to just pick a newsgroup. > > Do you have a favorite GNOME newsreader for fedora22? Any searches > come up with newsreaders from years ago... > I haven't used usenet for several years, but I used to use 'pan'. It worked fine, quite configurable. It is still there in F22. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE Plasma 5 loading
On Thu, 2015-09-03 at 22:20 +0100, John Horne wrote: > On Thu, 2015-09-03 at 08:38 +0100, John Horne wrote: > > > > This morning I have just booted up the laptop, and all seems to be > > working well. I can log in, the desktop looks fine, the apps and > > network are working fine. > > > Spoke too soon. Got back home, booted up the laptop and got the black > screen with cursor again. I'm now using cinnamon instead of plasma. > I've been looking into this a bit further, and the problem seems to be with drkonqi. It is supposed to detect and report crashes of KDE, but it seems to fail for some reason and hang up the window manager. I can disable use of drkonqi by putting: #!/bin/sh export KDE_DEBUG=1 into the ~/.config/plasma-workspace/env/kwin_env.sh file. (I got this from another persons report of problems with drkonqi. Make sure you make the file executable.) The laptop now comes up into KDE. Once logged in, a popup appears saying that kwin_x11 has crashed and do I want to report it. I have done this. The only other difference I have noticed is that I run ksshaskpass automatically, and the popup window appears at the top-left whereas it used to appear in the center of the screen. Other than that everything else works as before. It seems that there have already been reports of drkonqi and kwin/kwin_x11 crashing and causing all sorts of problems. Hopefully an update at some time will resolve these. John. -- ---- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE Plasma 5 loading
On Thu, 2015-09-03 at 08:38 +0100, John Horne wrote: > > This morning I have just booted up the laptop, and all seems to be > working well. I can log in, the desktop looks fine, the apps and > network are working fine. > Spoke too soon. Got back home, booted up the laptop and got the black screen with cursor again. I'm now using cinnamon instead of plasma. John. -- ---- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE Plasma 5 loading
On Wed, 2015-09-02 at 14:06 +0200, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote: > not. > > After having installed kde-desktop on Fedora 22, and chosing Plasma > as environment from gdm I am greeted by a grey screen with only a > pointer to move. Looks like it doesn't even load a window manager. > Very odd. I had the same problem on my home laptop last night. I run KDE by default, and after performing a 'dnf update', which brought in a lot of updates (I hadn't updated for a while), when I restarted the laptop all I got was the mouse cursor on a black screen. The ~/.xsession-errors file indicated that kwin_x11 was crashing. I tried downgrading kwin but that caused other problems. I could not get focus on apps (such as a browser accessing google), but could with a konsole. The maximise/minimise icons (at top right) were missing from the browser and konsole too. I tried updating to updates-testing repo versions, and then rebooting, but that didn't help and in fact I lost the network connection as well. This morning I have just booted up the laptop, and all seems to be working well. I can log in, the desktop looks fine, the apps and network are working fine. As said, very odd. John. -- ---- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22: dnf - seems to do nothing?
On Tue, 2015-06-16 at 06:24 -0400, Radek Holy wrote: > > > > > I have just installed F22 (KDE spin) onto my laptop at home. After > > installation I ran 'dnf update' and it installed a load of patches. > > However, now whenever I invoke dnf it seems to do nothing (no output on > > terminal). My first thought was to perhaps try using 'strace' to see > > what it was doing, but of course I can't install it. A reboot made no > > difference. > > > > can you run it with the --verbose switch and the environment variable > LIBREPO_DEBUG=1? Can you share your dnf.log? File a bug with all these > information, please. > > "dnf clean all" may work around it. > Hello, Thanks for this. I have now solved the problem. The 'clean all' made no difference. However the 'dnf -v' showed that the process was waiting on the mirror server for some reason. The dnf log showed the URL it was trying to use, and when I tried this in a browser it worked fine (the XML file was displayed). However, when I tried with 'curl -v' it hung up. The problem was with the EPSV command: < 250 Directory successfully changed. > EPSV * Connect data stream passively 421 Timeout.ng Extended Passive Mode (|||14410|) * Connection time-out * Failed EPSV attempt. Disabling EPSV > PASV * response reading failed * Closing connection 0 curl: (56) response reading failed Running curl with the '--disable-epsv' option, and the file downloaded immediately. I then found someone else had recently reported a similar problem: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=305034 By enabling the 'fastestmirror' option in dnf, downloads now work fine. What is a bit annoying is that the original mirror being used was the one at the University of Kent here in the UK. Fortunately the 'fastestmirror' has chosen a different mirror, but I guess at some future time the problem could emerge again if that mirror gets selected. I'll see about letting the mirror know of the problem. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F22: dnf - seems to do nothing?
Hello, I have just installed F22 (KDE spin) onto my laptop at home. After installation I ran 'dnf update' and it installed a load of patches. However, now whenever I invoke dnf it seems to do nothing (no output on terminal). My first thought was to perhaps try using 'strace' to see what it was doing, but of course I can't install it. A reboot made no difference. A bit of searching seems to indicate that there was (?) a problem with dnf 'install' (perhaps with metadata?), but I couldn't find out if this was resolved (I assume not since the latest updates obviously didn't fix it), or if there was some sort of workaround. Does anyone know if there is a workaround for this problem? Thanks, John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Clamav tell's me rkhunter is a worm!
On Thu, 2014-04-10 at 09:53 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > /usr/bin/rkhunter: Osx.Worm.Inqtana-3 FOUND > /usr/bin/rkhunter: moved to '/var/cache/clam/rkhunter.001' > The ClamAV Inqtana-3 check looks for a couple of phrases (actually parts of filenames) which also occur in rkhunter as part of its Inqtana checks. I would say the ClamAV check is too simple, whereas rkhunter actually tests that the filenames exist. Example: echo w0rms.l0ve.apples w0rm-support | clamdscan - stream: Osx.Worm.Inqtana-3 FOUND (I actually changed the above slightly - it should be 'love' - otherwise this mail message may well be rejected by ClamAV running on mail servers!) John. -- ---- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rkhunter sshd warning
On Sun, 2014-03-16 at 12:59 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > -- Start Rootkit Hunter Scan > -- > Warning: The file '/usr/sbin/sshd' exists on the system, but it is > not present in the 'rkhunter.dat' file. > Warning: The file '/usr/bin/ssh' exists on the system, but it is > not present in the 'rkhunter.dat' file. > Warning: The file '/usr/bin/telnet' exists on the system, but it > is not present in the 'rkhunter.dat' file. > You should have run 'rkhunter --propupd' after installing the new release of RKH. From the RKH CHANGELOG file for release 1.4.2: - The 'ssh', 'sshd' and 'telnet' commands are now checked as part of the file properties test. So these commands are now being checked automatically. Run 'rkhunter --propupd'. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Focus-follows-mouse in KDE under FC19?
On Mon, 2014-02-17 at 12:24 -0500, William W. Austin wrote: > > Is there anyway to turn this back on in FC 19 (or 20) for KDE? > Otherwise I'm going to have downgrade her machine back to FC 17 just to > keep peace at home. > Using F20, go to 'System settings' -> 'Window Behaviour' -> 'Window Behaviour' There is a 'Focus' slider. Click near to the 'Hover' end and you will see the mouse focus capability change. Near the middle gives the focus follows mouse behaviour. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Best practices for SSD
On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 09:43 -0500, Wade Hampton wrote: > - change I/O scheduler by adding "elevator=noop" to boot parms > No longer needed it seems. > - reduce swappiness: /etc/sysctl.conf > vm.swappiness=1 > vm.vfs_cache_pressure=50 > Yes, I do this for my SSD. I put them into a file in '/etc/sysctl.d'. I use my SSD for root (/), but for things that change frequently (e.g. /home, /var) I use an internal hard drive. Take a look for some tips: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives John. -- -------- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rkhunter warnings, maybe yum issues?
On Sat, 2014-02-01 at 22:11 -0500, William wrote: > > John asks: > > So what happened when you ran 'rpm -V ...'? It will probably show that > > the package has changed in some way. > > I checked several. In every case, it says "package [whatever] is not > installed"! (But I checked, and the packages are where rkhunter is > looking.) ... > I consider parts 2 and 3 of my original post closed. But I remain > puzzled that rpm doesn't find packages that "whereis" finds in the > places that rkhunter has rpm looking. > I don't follow that. > In every case, it says "package [whatever] is not installed" So RPM is saying the package is not installed. With RKH it depends on whether you have modified the RKH configuration file to use the RPM package manager (I can't remember if mentioned this or not). If it isn't using the package manager, then RKH will simply verify files using the 'prelink' command. If the package manager is used, then the 'rpm' command is used. Either command can give an error relating to prelinking (and this is what RKH is showing you). I can't really help any further with this without going into more detail about what RKH is doing. If you want to pursue it then contact me off list. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rkhunter warnings, maybe yum issues?
On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 17:11 -0800, William Mattison wrote: > > John says (regarding "rpm -qf --queryformat..." error codes) > > This means that when rkhunter (RKH) uses the 'rpm' command to check a > > package it is getting an error back. All it can do is log the problem. > > If you run something like 'rpm -V chkconfig' then you will probably get > > an error - that is what RKH is seeing. > > But why all the rpm errors? Is yum not doing something that it should > be doing during an update? Am I not doing something I should be > doing? Is something wrong with RPM or my RPM database? What and > where is the real bug, and what's the permanent fix? > So what happened when you ran 'rpm -V ...'? It will probably show that the package has changed in some way. That, in turn, may be normal if (say) a configuration file has changed (in which case look at RKH PKGMGR_NO_VRFY). It may be due to prelinking. Unfortunately prelinking can change things such that dependency errors occur, and this will cause RKH and (AFAIK) rpm and prelink itself to trip up. > > John says (regarding prelink issues): > > The problem here is prelinking. It will change file properties when it > > runs, but RKH tries to detect this and so obtain the true values for > > each file (either by using the rpm package manager or using the prelink > > command to verify the file). In some cases a dependency the file has, > > has changed. again, RKH cannot do anything about that, but suggests > > running the prelink command. If it is occurring a lot with different > > files, then you can try running 'prelink -qa', 'prelink -fa' or just > > wait for the regular prelink cron job to run when it should sort out > > prelinking problems. However, when I last looked the job ran about once > >every two weeks :-) > > "prelink -qa" fixes things only until the next yum update. Should yum > do a "prelink -qa" at the end of each update? > No, because not all packages require/use prelinking. A yum update doesn't necessarily cause a problem with prelinking. There are only problems if some dependency fails. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rkhunter warnings, maybe yum issues?
On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 20:17 -0500, William wrote: > > I don't know if these are properly rkhunter questions, yum questions, or > F-20 questions, so I'm posting to both lists. > > Last Monday, I updated my 64-bit system from Fedora-19 to Fedora-20. > Several minutes ago, I updated Fedora-20 by doing "yum update". I then > did "rkhunter --update", and then "rkhunter --check". I'm getting a lot > of issues. > > 1. I get these messages in the rkhunter log: > > [18:55:34] Info: The command 'rpm -qf --queryformat... > /usr/sbin/chkconfig' gave error code 1. > This means that when rkhunter (RKH) uses the 'rpm' command to check a package it is getting an error back. All it can do is log the problem. If you run something like 'rpm -V chkconfig' then you will probably get an error - that is what RKH is seeing. > 2. I get this warning in the rkhunter log: > > [18:55:49] /usr/bin/curl [ Warning ] > [18:55:49] Warning: Package manager verification has failed: > [18:55:49] File: /usr/bin/curl > [18:55:49] Try running the command 'prelink /usr/bin/curl' to > resolve dependency errors. > [18:55:49] The file hash value has changed > [18:55:49] The file size has changed > > The warning gives me the immediate fix, and it works. But the problem > recurs after almost every "yum update" (both under F-19, and since > updating to F-20), though not on the same packages each time. What's the > real problem? Is there something yum should be doing, but isn't? Is > there something I should be doing, but I don't know it? > The problem here is prelinking. It will change file properties when it runs, but RKH tries to detect this and so obtain the true values for each file (either by using the rpm package manager or using the prelink command to verify the file). In some cases a dependency the file has, has changed. again, RKH cannot do anything about that, but suggests running the prelink command. If it is occurring a lot with different files, then you can try running 'prelink -qa', 'prelink -fa' or just wait for the regular prelink cron job to run when it should sort out prelinking problems. However, when I last looked the job ran about once every two weeks :-) > 3. Since updating to F-20, I'm seeing this warning: > > [18:56:18] > [18:56:18] Checking for GasKit Rootkit... > [18:56:18] Checking for file '/dev/dev/gaskit/sshd/sshdd' [ Not found ] > [18:56:18] Checking for directory '/dev/dev' [ Found ] > [18:56:18] Checking for directory '/dev/dev/gaskit'[ Not found ] > [18:56:18] Checking for directory '/dev/dev/gaskit/sshd' [ Not found ] > [18:56:18] Warning: GasKit Rootkit [ Warning ] > [18:56:18] Directory '/dev/dev' found > [18:56:18] > It's a bug in F20 with the 'dracut' package, the '/dev/dev' directory is created by mistake(see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1045116). I got the same problem. There is a fix, or you could wait for an update to the package. You can whitelist this in your RKH config file (see RTKT_DIR_WHITELIST). John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rkhunter - output
On Sat, 2013-12-21 at 16:03 -0500, bruce wrote: > Hi. > > Ran rkhunter on a system a few days ago, and got no warnings on the > files/rootkits. > > Just ran rkhunter again on the same box, and I get a bunch of warnings > on the files, but again, no warning/alerts regarding the potential > rootkits. > What warnings? What was the output from rkhunter - warnings only not the whole thing. John. -- ---- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can Fedora count it rpms?
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 20:28 +, Beartooth wrote: > I'm sitting here watching F19 try to downgrade itself to F18, > with screenful after screenful flashing by. I know that, if/when it > completes, it will tell me how many rpms it means to change; what I want, > though (out of admittedly idle curiosity), is the number of all the rpms > on the whole machine. Is there a command for that?? > perhaps: rpm -qa | wc -l John. -- ---- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evolution - keeps losing mail filters
On Fri, 2013-10-18 at 16:23 +1030, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 23:58 +0100, John Horne wrote: > > suddenly 'lost' all my incoming mail filters. I have no > > idea why it happens, all I see is a yellow banner saying: > > > >Mail filters automatically updated. > >The filter rule "Xymon" has been modified to account for the > >deleted folder "Xymon". > > > > The folder name (here 'Xymon') changes for each of the filters I have. > > The filters actually still exist, but they now do nothing. > > Not that I have the answer, but to help you (and others) narrow it down: > Are these local folders, or remote folders (e.g. on an IMAP server, or > over NFS)? > > If they're remote, perhaps it doesn't wait long enough to find them, > before declaring them deleted. Sorry, yes I should have said that these are remote (dovecot) IMAP folders. Although the remote server is fine, my ISP connection can be attrocious at times! For that reason I too wondered if it was something to do with talking to the server. I had a look at the 'updates-testing' repo but there were no releases of evolution waiting. However, I did find in the gnome (evolution) bugzilla reports[1] about folders being lost (etc) when laptop users suspend their device and are using a remote IMAP server. Although not exactly the same, the circumstances - loss of network - are similar. There was no mention of mail filters, but the bug was that the loss of network was not being reported correctly. In my case it could be that evolution thinks the network is there but the folders aren't - hence the filters get changed to remove the folder names. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to have been fixed until the evolution 3.9 branch, and I see that F20/21 will be using branches 3.9 and 3.10. I may take a stab at rebuilding the F20 source RPMS of evolution and evolution-data-server on my F19 system, but it may be too dependent on other things for it to work. Thanks, John. [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=693101 -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evolution - keeps losing mail filters
On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 16:25 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/17/2013 03:58 PM, John Horne wrote: > > I can, of course, add the filters back in, but I have 20 or so filters > > so it takes a bit of time. > > I don't use evolution myself, but it seems reasonable that all of your > filters are kept in one, profile-specific directory. You may want to > try backing that directory up so that next time this happens, you can > close evolution, restore from backup and try again. > Well there is the ~/.config/evolution/mail/filters.xml file which seems to hold the mail filters. I have taken a copy of it just in case :-) Thanks, John. -- -------- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Evolution - keeps losing mail filters
Hello, I'm using evolution 3.8.5 on F19, and for the third time now, in as many days, it has suddenly 'lost' all my incoming mail filters. I have no idea why it happens, all I see is a yellow banner saying: Mail filters automatically updated. The filter rule "Xymon" has been modified to account for the deleted folder "Xymon". The folder name (here 'Xymon') changes for each of the filters I have. The filters actually still exist, but they now do nothing. They previously all moved mail into various folders, and it is the location of those folders that has been removed from the filters. My mail is still all present, and the folders exist. I can read new mail in the folders so I do not know why it thinks they are deleted. I can, of course, add the filters back in, but I have 20 or so filters so it takes a bit of time. I have been using evolution with no problems since upgrading to F19 a couple of months ago. As said, this has only just started happening. Has anyone else seen this recently? Thanks, John. -- ---- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?
On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 19:39 +0100, John Horne wrote: > Hello, > > Updated from F17 to F19 with a fresh install, and have hit a few > problems. The main one is that my wireless interface does not come up > (it is an Atheros AR9170 device). > Seems the problem is that the SYSV 'network' must be started. I have to admit that I had assumed this had gone by now. There were very few SYSV services in F17, and I just didn't check in F19. Once I had set that to start, then the network comes up after every reboot. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 12:36 -0500, g wrote: > On 08/27/2013 10:57 AM, John Horne wrote: > <> > > > The wireless adapter hasn't changed, and the same config files > > (wpa_supplicant.conf, ifcfg-wlan0) are being used that worked with F17. > > > > As said, if I run 'ifdown wlan0 && ifup wlan0' then the interface comes > > up. That wouldn't happen if the MAC address was wrong. > > obviously, wpa_supplicant is not getting started during startup. > Yes it is. The log file, /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log, shows this. If it wasn't started then 'ifup wlan0' wouldn't work. What isn't happening during startup - it seems - is dhclient running. And I can find no mention of that in the log files. It does run though when I use 'ifup' after startup. Hence running 'ifdown wlan0 && ifup wlan0' works. I'll need to see where dhclient gets started and see if I can crank up the logging/debugging. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 18:16 +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 04:57:04PM +0100, John Horne wrote: > > > On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 11:18 -0400, Jared K. Smith wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu > > > wrote: > > > Check also if the MAC and name of the WiFi interface in the > > > user > > > configuration of NetworkManager matches that of the hardware. > > > > > > > > > I too would suggest that you double-check that the MAC address -- just > > > last week I got the same symptoms from a system where the config files > > > thought that the MAC should be one thing, and the actual MAC address > > > was different. > > > > > The wireless adapter hasn't changed, and the same config files > > (wpa_supplicant.conf, ifcfg-wlan0) are being used that worked with F17. > > > > As said, if I run 'ifdown wlan0 && ifup wlan0' then the interface comes > > up. That wouldn't happen if the MAC address was wrong. > > MAC is stored in system filed (/etc/...) and user files > ($HOME/...). Check the latter. > Why? John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 11:18 -0400, Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu > wrote: > Check also if the MAC and name of the WiFi interface in the > user > configuration of NetworkManager matches that of the hardware. > > > I too would suggest that you double-check that the MAC address -- just > last week I got the same symptoms from a system where the config files > thought that the MAC should be one thing, and the actual MAC address > was different. > The wireless adapter hasn't changed, and the same config files (wpa_supplicant.conf, ifcfg-wlan0) are being used that worked with F17. As said, if I run 'ifdown wlan0 && ifup wlan0' then the interface comes up. That wouldn't happen if the MAC address was wrong. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 15:03 +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > Check also if the MAC and name of the WiFi interface in the user > configuration of NetworkManager matches that of the hardware. > NetworkManager is not being used. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 02:18 -0500, g wrote: > > On 08/26/2013 05:14 PM, John Horne wrote: > > On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 15:46 -0500, g wrote: > >> hello john, > >> > >> On 08/26/2013 01:39 PM, John Horne wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> Updated from F17 to F19 with a fresh install, and have hit a few > >>> problems. The main one is that my wireless interface does not come up > >>> (it is an Atheros AR9170 device). > >> > >> i do not recall exactly when something similar was 'threaded', but it > >> was a problem of timing as to just what starts when. > >> > >> awairc, solution was to start wlan last to give time for networking > >> time to finish configuring. > >> > >> sound reasonable? > >> > > Other way round I would say :-) > > > > wpa_supplicant must finish before the network starts, if it doesn't then > > the wireless interface won't come up. This was a problem years ago > > (Fedora 7 or so?) when the SYSV scripts started networking first, and > > then wireless. The fix was, as said, to start wpa_supplicant first. > > so you are saying that one has to have wireless networking before any > networking can be? > The association of the wifi network card with the router, yes. After that networking can then set the interface as up or down. It cannot do that before the association though (hence wpa_supplicant must run before the network is started). Obviously for wired networks, wpa_supplicant isn't going to do anything, so networking will start up as usual (bringing interfaces up or leaving them down). John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?
On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 15:46 -0500, g wrote: > hello john, > > On 08/26/2013 01:39 PM, John Horne wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Updated from F17 to F19 with a fresh install, and have hit a few > > problems. The main one is that my wireless interface does not come up > > (it is an Atheros AR9170 device). > > i do not recall exactly when something similar was 'threaded', but it > was a problem of timing as to just what starts when. > > awairc, solution was to start wlan last to give time for networking > time to finish configuring. > > sound reasonable? > Other way round I would say :-) wpa_supplicant must finish before the network starts, if it doesn't then the wireless interface won't come up. This was a problem years ago (Fedora 7 or so?) when the SYSV scripts started networking first, and then wireless. The fix was, as said, to start wpa_supplicant first. However, this all worked fine with F17 (and systemd) and the starting order was sorted out a long time ago. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?
Hello, Updated from F17 to F19 with a fresh install, and have hit a few problems. The main one is that my wireless interface does not come up (it is an Atheros AR9170 device). I configured it in F17 without NetworkManager by modifying the /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0 (with NM_CONTROLLED=no) and /etc/sysconfig/wpa_supplicant files. This worked fine, no problems at all. With F19, after making the same changes, the wlan0 interface appears but is not assigned an IP address. It seems that wpa_supplicant works okay, as does the general startup of the network (the loopback interface appears okay), but running dhclient to get an IP address either does not happen or fails. 'ps auxww' does not show dhclient as running. I can find no errors in the log files. If I run 'ifdown wlan0 && ifup wlan0' then the interface comes up with an IP address (and this is recorded in the log file and ps shows dhclient as now running). Anyone any ideas why dhclient might not be running? I'll keep working on this (obviously), but have already spent most of the day on it and got nowhere. Thanks, John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firewalld - list tables?
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 15:31 -0400, staticsafe wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD > Yeah... I have a copy of that so where does it tell me what tables are being used? John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firewalld - list tables?
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 17:53 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Fri, 17 May 2013 12:26:46 +0100 > John Horne wrote: > > yum info firewall-config > Yeah... I already have that installed so where does it tell me what tables are being used? John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Firewalld - list tables?
Hello, I have been looking at the new Fedora firewall 'firewalld' and the 'firewall-cmd' command. I'm currently running F17 on a PC with an F18 virtual machine, and have been trying to understand firewalld prior to upgrading to Fedora 19. The PC has a modified iptables. So I have been trying to see how to incorporate the changes into the new firewalld. I suspect I will need to use the 'firewall-cmd --direct' option to add the iptables rules (as I see no other way of specifying on the rules source/destination addresses using 'firewall-cmd'). However, 'firewall-cmd' offers both the '--get-chains' and '--get-rules' options, but these both require specifying which table is to be used. How do I know what the tables are? There is no '--get-tables' option. I can run 'cat /proc/net/ip_tables_names' and this lists the standard iptables tables (nat ,mangle, filter). But if I use these names with 'firweall-cmd' all I get is a blank line displayed. E.g. firewall-cmd --direct --get-chains ipv4 nat The same occurs with all the table names. So, my question is this, is 'firewall-cmd' working correctly and simply stating that none of the tables have any chains (and so no rules)? Secondly, how do I find out what tables are defined for firewalld? Thanks, John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: potential sshd gotcha
On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 17:11 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > I spent hours at work today getting sshd to function on > my desktop which I just switched to booting from the > fedora 18 partition. I finally discovered this: > > [root@zooty ~]# ls -l /etc/ssh > total 276 > -rw--- 1 root root 245058 Dec 3 11:43 moduli > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2104 Dec 3 11:43 ssh_config > -r. 1 root ssh_keys668 Dec 5 20:35 ssh_host_dsa_key > -rw-r--r--. 1 root root590 Dec 5 20:35 ssh_host_dsa_key.pub > -r. 1 root ssh_keys963 Dec 5 20:35 ssh_host_key > -rw-r--r--. 1 root root627 Dec 5 20:35 ssh_host_key.pub > -r. 1 root ssh_keys 1675 Dec 5 20:35 ssh_host_rsa_key > -rw-r--r--. 1 root root382 Dec 5 20:35 ssh_host_rsa_key.pub > -rw--- 1 root root 4615 Dec 26 14:47 sshd_config > > The private key files now want to be group "ssh_keys". > The same was true with Fedora 17. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Bash - an odd problem using sed or awk or for
On Sat, 2012-12-01 at 23:25 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 21:37 -0700, Greg Woods wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 23:33 +0000, John Horne wrote: > > > > > (the '=' are not part of the variable) > > > abc def > > > > > > hijk > > > xyz > > > > > > > > > So in this case what is wanted is: > > > > > > > > > hijk > > > xyz > > > > > > > > > to be shown. > > > > echo "$XX" | sed -e '1,/^$/d' > > This will delete lines up to and including the first blank line. The > OP's problem statement isn't very clear, but I think he wants to delete > everything up to and including the last blank line, if any. > Correct. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Bash - an odd problem using sed or awk or for
On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 18:56 -0600, inode0 wrote:
>
> Oh, for a simple variable this should work
>
> echo "${XX/*
>
> }"
>
Hello,
Yes, that does seem to work :-)
Although I have to admit I'm not sure why! I'll investigate further :-)
Many thanks,
John.
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Bash - an odd problem using sed or awk or for
Hello, I have a bash script in which a variable is set to one or more lines of text. What I want is to remove any lines up to and including a blank line (or alternatively to echo all the lines after the last blank line). There may be zero or more blank lines, and the blank lines need not be consecutive. If there is no blank line, then all the lines should be shown. If the last line is blank, then nothing should be shown. So for example the variable may contain: (the '=' are not part of the variable) abc def hijk xyz So in this case what is wanted is: hijk xyz to be shown. I tried something like: echo "$XX" | sed -e '/./,/^$/d' but this didn't display anything. (Where XX is the variable.) I also tried using a 'for' loop but again this displayed nothing: opt="" IFS=$'\n' for n in $XX; do test -z "$n" && opt="" || opt="$opt $n"; done (Echoing $opt after this shows that it contains nothing.) I'm not sure why but even using a for loop just to show it had seen a blank line didn't work either (using something like 'test -z "$n" && echo found'). My understanding was that by setting IFS to a newline, then the 'for' loop should see the blank line and just set '$n' to the null string. We should then be able to test on that. Ideally what I am looking for is a snappy one line 'sed' or 'awk' command to handle this :-) Unfortunately at the moment I seem to be getting nowhere though, even with the 'for' loop. Thanks, John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Evolution - import contacts not working.
Hello, I wanted to copy the contacts from my F17 work PC to my home PC. Both use Evolution 3.4.3. I could see that I could save the contacts as a vcard, so I did this. I then transferred the file to my home PC. On my home PC, when viewing 'contacts' I told it to import a single file, and gave the name of the vcard file. However, when I clicked 'apply' evolution showed a window that looked like it should be a progress bar, but nothing showed up. 'top' indicated that evolution wasn't doing anything. I cancelled the 'import', and tried again. Same thing, nothing happened. I created a new address book and asked evo to import the contacts into that. Same thing - nothing happened. I then asked evo to delete the created address book, which it said it would do but didn't. I have stopped/started evo several times to see if it simply needed to be restarted. I am now left with an address book I can't delete and no contacts in any folder. Anyone any ideas about this, or is it simply broken? John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F17 - evolution stops accepting input
Hello, Since updating my PC to F17 every so often the 'evolution' mail client stops accepting input to various windows. For example, if I am sending a new message, then I can enter the recipient, the subject line and start to type the message. If, as has just happened, I change the layout from 'preformatted' to 'normal' then I can no longer enter any more of the message. Nothing is accepted. Generally I discard the message, and start again. (I don't think going from preformatted to normal is the cause, that was just an example of when this has happened.) I have had the same problem when entering mail filtering rules. I can enter the rule name, but cannot, for example, enter the rule itself based (say) on the subject. Again, no input is accepted. In this instance I had to enter the rule first, then the rule name. Anyone any ideas about this? Thanks. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F17 - KDE panel background - how to change
On Sun, 2012-06-24 at 12:17 +0100, John Horne wrote: > On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 19:05 +0100, John Horne wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have installed F17 onto my home PC today, and somewhere along the way > > changed I seem to have changed the KDE panel background. It is now > > somewhat transparent, which means that when the display background > > changes (I have it set to a slideshow) sometimes I cannot read the text > > on the panel icons. > > > > I have had a look again but cannot see where the panel background is > > set. Could someone point me to the right area please? > > > Hello, > > Well it is possible to change the panel background setting: > http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=96664 > Actually setting the desktop theme to 'Air' seems to resolve the last of the problems. Just clicking 'Apply' without changing any of the 'Detials' settings and the panel background is light grey, as are the task icons. I can now read everything, and the task popups are also light grey with a black border but easily readable. John. Doh! I knew I should have tried -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F17 - KDE panel background - how to change
On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 19:05 +0100, John Horne wrote: > Hello, > > I have installed F17 onto my home PC today, and somewhere along the way > changed I seem to have changed the KDE panel background. It is now > somewhat transparent, which means that when the display background > changes (I have it set to a slideshow) sometimes I cannot read the text > on the panel icons. > > I have had a look again but cannot see where the panel background is > set. Could someone point me to the right area please? > Hello, Well it is possible to change the panel background setting: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=96664 I set the 'File' option for the panel background to /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/opaque/widgets/panel-background.svgz and the panel background is now a solid light grey (after logging out and in). This now allows me to read how many unread mail messages I have without maximising the panel task (I use 'evolution' as my mail client). Unfortunately though some tasks on the panel such as a simple bash konsole appear quite dark, others such as evolution are white on the grey background (and so readable), libreoffice is also a light colour, firefox is dark. Hovering the mouse over any of the tasks pops up a thumbnail window which is pretty much black and impossible to read! I also do not like at all the seemingly 'blurred' writing on the tasks on the panel - e.g. 'bash' for a bash konsole. Blurring it puts a strain on the eyes to resolve the writing - not good at all! So, obviously things are not quite there yet. I have no objection to some eye-candy, the blue highlight around selected tasks etc, but being unable to read something is obviously of not much use. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F17 - KDE panel background - how to change
Hello, I have installed F17 onto my home PC today, and somewhere along the way changed I seem to have changed the KDE panel background. It is now somewhat transparent, which means that when the display background changes (I have it set to a slideshow) sometimes I cannot read the text on the panel icons. I have had a look again but cannot see where the panel background is set. Could someone point me to the right area please? Thanks, John. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: wifi bit rate
On Wed, 2012-05-23 at 18:58 -0700, JD wrote: > On 05/23/2012 06:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 05/24/2012 09:52 AM, JD wrote: > >> Sorry Ed - I sent my reply too soon wihtout answering the 2nd question. > >> Yes, the question was asked and I replied moving the laptop right > >> next to the router has no effect on the bit rate. > > Sorry if my question wasn't clear. > > > > I'm not asking about moving it closer to *your* AP. I am asking about > > taking the > > laptop out of your home to another location and a *different* AP. A > > friends home, a > > Starbucks? > > > I have in the past, but not recently, as this > problem is rather recent (past 10 or 15 days ). > I will give it a shot and get back to you. > Eh? But you have already said that it worked fine at Starbucks, with a speed of 54Mb/s or more. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: wifi bit rate
On Wed, 2012-05-23 at 02:43 -0700, JD wrote: > > # iwconfig wlan1 rate 54G ^^^ '54M' not 'G'. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: wifi bit rate
On Tue, 2012-05-22 at 19:02 -0700, JD wrote: > I found no settings on the router which > would set the bitrate per wifi client. The other 3 > clients are all at 54 Mb/s. > Hi, Ah. I don't think you mentioned that other clients were working fine. Are these 802.11b/g cards or are they 802.11n but for some reason running at 54Mb/s? As said, you can change these on the fly for the card: 'iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M' John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: wifi bit rate
On Wed, 2012-05-23 at 10:27 +0800, Gregory Hosler wrote: > On 05/23/2012 10:02 AM, JD wrote: > > On 05/22/2012 02:56 PM, John Horne wrote: > >> On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 17:19 -0700, JD wrote: > >>> When I take my laptop to starbucks or McDonalds hot spot, even when > >>> sitting outside, bitrate never is below 54mbps, sometime is as high as > >>> 72mb/s > >>> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Reading through your messages, you have now said two things: > >> > >> 1) You used an RTL card and got the same problem; 2) Using the laptop > >> elsewhere (starbucks) and it works fine. > >> > >> To me both of those tend to indicate that the WLAN card is okay, but > >> perhaps your router (or at least something else) is causing a problem. > >> The RTL card would have used a different driver than the Atheros. > > Of course. The external rtl usb wifi adapter uses the rtl8187 driver. So, I > > really doubt the linux driver is behind this fixation of bit rate. All I am > > saying is that I did not have this problem when I was on F14. Perhaps > > something above the low lever driver is at work here, either wext driver or > > wpa_supplicant application. I found no settings on the router which would > > set the bitrate per wifi client. The other 3 clients are all at 54 Mb/s. > > > >> > >> You also said that the card worked fine with F14. Although the ath9k > >> driver will most likely have changed between F14 and F16, that wouldn't > >> explain why it works fine at starbucks or why the RTL had the same > >> problem. > > Right. > >> > >> I would say take a look at the router to see if anything unusual is > >> happening there. > >> > >> I have heard before that sometimes dropping the router/card to 802.11b or > >> g can resolve odd problems with 802.11n cards. (Something like 'iwconfig > >> wlan0 rate 54M') Obviously the speed will not be the best, but possibly > >> better than 18Mb/s :-) > >> > >> Finally, if the driver really looks like a possibility, then you could > >> run 'modinfo ath9k' to see what options the driver takes. It may have a > >> debug option to cause further messages to be written to dmesg. Actually, > >> checking dmesg may be a good step anyway (something like 'dmesg | grep > >> ath'). > >> > >> (FYI, I have an Atheros USB card which uses the carl9170 driver. The card > >> is 802.11bgn, but my router is only 'b' or 'g'. I get a fairly consistent > >> maximum 54Mb/s :-) ) > > I will look to see if the ath9k and the rtl8187 drivers have debug options > > that can be turned on. If they do, then I will have to recompile my > > kernel. > > if they do, then there is NO need to recompile the kernel. > > modinfo ath9k > > shows ... > > parm: debug:Debugging mask (uint) > > looking at the source would show you the value of the bits (and how many) in > the bit mask. Turning all the bits on might be done like this: > > put the line: > > options ath9k debug=0x > > into > > /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > > and reload the module. > Hi, No need to use modprobe.d. Just run from the command line: modprobe -r ath9k modprobe ath9k debug=0x John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: wifi bit rate
On Tue, 2012-05-22 at 19:04 -0700, JD wrote:
> On 05/22/2012 03:12 PM, John Horne wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 13:18 -0700, JD wrote:
> >> Any wifi protocol savvy people who can explain this:
> >>
> >> iwconfig wlan0
> >> wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn ESSID:"Private"
> >> Mode:Managed Frequency:2.452 GHz Access Point:
> >> 00:AA:BB:CC:DD:EE
> >> Bit Rate=18 Mb/s Tx-Power=27 dBm
> >> Retry long limit:7 RTS thr=2346 B Fragment thr=2346 B
> >>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Did you set the RTS and frag values shown above? I'm not sure but think
> > that iwconfig will default these to 'off'. You may want to try setting
> > them to off to see if it improves things.
> >
> >
> >
> > John.
> >
> That seems to be done by the wpa_supplicant application???
> I do not use iwconfig to perform association with the AP.
>
Hi,
But you can change them on the fly :-)
Just run (as root) 'iwconfig wlan0 rts off frag off' from the command
line. If things don't improve then you can set them back ('iwconfig
wlan0 rts 2346 frag 2346').
John.
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Re: wifi bit rate
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 13:18 -0700, JD wrote: > Any wifi protocol savvy people who can explain this: > > iwconfig wlan0 > wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn ESSID:"Private" >Mode:Managed Frequency:2.452 GHz Access Point: > 00:AA:BB:CC:DD:EE >Bit Rate=18 Mb/s Tx-Power=27 dBm >Retry long limit:7 RTS thr=2346 B Fragment thr=2346 B > Hi, Did you set the RTS and frag values shown above? I'm not sure but think that iwconfig will default these to 'off'. You may want to try setting them to off to see if it improves things. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: wifi bit rate
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 17:19 -0700, JD wrote: > > When I take my laptop to starbucks or McDonalds hot spot, > even when sitting outside, bitrate never is below 54mbps, > sometime is as high as 72mb/s > Hi, Reading through your messages, you have now said two things: 1) You used an RTL card and got the same problem; 2) Using the laptop elsewhere (starbucks) and it works fine. To me both of those tend to indicate that the WLAN card is okay, but perhaps your router (or at least something else) is causing a problem. The RTL card would have used a different driver than the Atheros. You also said that the card worked fine with F14. Although the ath9k driver will most likely have changed between F14 and F16, that wouldn't explain why it works fine at starbucks or why the RTL had the same problem. I would say take a look at the router to see if anything unusual is happening there. I have heard before that sometimes dropping the router/card to 802.11b or g can resolve odd problems with 802.11n cards. (Something like 'iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M') Obviously the speed will not be the best, but possibly better than 18Mb/s :-) Finally, if the driver really looks like a possibility, then you could run 'modinfo ath9k' to see what options the driver takes. It may have a debug option to cause further messages to be written to dmesg. Actually, checking dmesg may be a good step anyway (something like 'dmesg | grep ath'). (FYI, I have an Atheros USB card which uses the carl9170 driver. The card is 802.11bgn, but my router is only 'b' or 'g'. I get a fairly consistent maximum 54Mb/s :-) ) John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: KVM - how to re-install images
On Fri, 2012-05-18 at 08:28 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 18 May 2012 13:10:43 +0100 > John Horne wrote: > > > As said, the images already exist and will be available to the F17 PC, > > so things like using virsh 'dumpxml' then 'create' don't seem to work > > since they are trying to create an image that already exists. > > Actually dumpxml and create are exactly what you want. You do the > dumpxml on your current machine and the create (using that xml file) > on the new machine (modifying the location of the image file in the > xml if it doesn't appear to be in the same place on the new machine). > > The same xml files dumpxml print are stashed in /etc/libvirt/qemu, > so you can copy them over from there. > Thanks for this (and Frank's reply). It was the XML file bit of info that I was missing. A quick bit of testing and it seems if I do 'virsh define ...' then the VM XML file is recreated in /etc/libvirt/qemu. I can then start up the VM with no problems. If I do 'virsh create ...' instead, then it seems to start the VM, but does not create a new XML file in /etc/libvirt/qemu. So once I shutdown the VM, I cannot restart it again unless I do a 'virsh create...' again. Using the 'virsh define' command solves this (as mentioned above). Anyway, thanks. I'll make sure I have /etc/libvirt/qemu backed up, and will use the 'virsh define' command to restore the definitions of the VMs. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
KVM - how to re-install images
Hello, Next week (hopefully) F17 comes out, and I will be rebuilding my PC from F15 to a fresh F17 install. This will be a completely new installation, with the disks being reformatted. I currently have some virtual machines on the F15 PC created with KVM, and stored on an external disk. Only the '.img' files are stored on the external disk. What I have been trying to find out, and seem to be failing, is how do I re-install those virtual machines when I have rebuilt the PC? As said, the images already exist and will be available to the F17 PC, so things like using virsh 'dumpxml' then 'create' don't seem to work since they are trying to create an image that already exists. Thanks, John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: (SOLVED [maybe]) Re: What is removing files from /tmp?
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 12:01 -0700, Dean S. Messing wrote: > I just remotely logged onto my F15 system at work and found > > /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/systemd.conf > > which contains this line: > > d /tmp 1777 root root 10d > Thanks for this. I admit I wasn't aware of this mechanism so have learned something :-) Interestingly though, the man page says that files and directories will be removed. That doesn't seem to happen. I have directories in /tmp (on F15) which are well over 10 days old. They have no files in them, some have subdirectories, but no files at all. So it seems to more purge /tmp of files, but leave the directory structures in place. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What is removing files from /tmp?
On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 19:47 -0700, Dean S. Messing wrote: > I'm running F15. Files are mysteriously being removed from /tmp after a > number of days of not being touched. I am familiar with > /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch and, in fact, modify it to inhibit removal of > files from /tmp. In the past this has worked. Under F15 it has not. > > Two or three weeks ago I deleted it from /etc/cron.daily but older files > _still_ get removed from /tmp. I've rebooted at least once. I'm not > sure if it happens at bootup or while the system is running, but > something is still removing files from /tmp. > > Does anyone know of another mechanism for this? > Take a look in /var/spool/cron to see if some user crontab (like root) is running tmpwatch or deleting the files. Also perhaps a check of /etc/rc.local to see if something is causing this. > I'm not sure if it happens at bootup or while the system is running > I would say add a file to /tmp, leave it a while, check it is still present then reboot. After bootup see if it is still there. If the problem isn't rebooting, then perhaps setup a cron job to monitor the files' existence (say check every few minutes) and email you when it has gone. It may give you more of an idea of when things are being deleted. You can also check /var/log/cron to see if some cron job is running causing the deletion at the time. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can't install nvidia drivers at runlevel3
On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 08:47 -0600, Lawrence Graves wrote: > > > On 03/23/2012 08:43 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > > Am 23.03.2012 15:40, schrieb Lawrence Graves: > > > I don't know what happened but I am now unable to install nvidia drivers > > > downloaded from nvidia.com. Had no problem > > > until the latest kernel was introduced. Please advise or help. > > in other words this happens since update to kernel 3.3 > > well, i guess the bvidia drivers are not ready for it > > > > get rid of nvidia graphics > > > > the current intel sandy brdige are working fine out > > of the box with 3D effects - do not buy hardware > > which depends on third-party drivers or do not use > > a bleeding-edge distro if you like BLOB drivers > > > > > > > I agree, I believe it is time for me to scrap my Dell 9400 Inspiron > with its FX2500m graphic video card and invest in a newer model. I am > going to miss her. She has been very dependable. > Likewise (time to scrap...). I can't run the latest F15 kernel because I'm still waiting on the nvidia drivers, and the 100% CPU problem I have is happening pretty much whenever I go near a web site (see previous post about this). At work my F15 PC with Intel graphics has no such problems. (Generally my home PC is okay, so I should only need to replace the graphics card :-) ) John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F15 - X at 100% with nVidia
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 20:35 +1030, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 22:55 +0000, John Horne wrote: > > I have noticed that usually once I start to browse the web (no > > particular sites), the cpu usage for the X process goes up to around > > 100%. > > Pages with Flash on them? The Flash player's one for chewing up CPU > usage. > Nope. I can go to a web page which has simple HTML providing a link to another site, and that will cause the problem. (Just tried it - 100% cpu usage.) John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F15 - X at 100% with nVidia
Hello, I have an onboard nVidia graphics chip, and so am using the nVidia drivers from rpmfusion. I have noticed that usually once I start to browse the web (no particular sites), the cpu usage for the X process goes up to around 100%. I have an AMD dual-core processor, so I can still do things, but obviously something is wrong. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm wondering if there is some (xorg.conf) option that would help here. I've had a look at the nVidia forums, and although there seem to be several scenarios where 100% cpu usage occurs, and some suggested solutions, the ones I have tried made no difference. I intend to upgrade to F17 when it is released, but I'm wondering if the version of X or nVidia driver at F17 are going to be any better. (I tried the F17 alpha, but there were no rpmfusion drivers for F17, so I had to use nouveau.) Thanks, John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: BOINC x86_64 - anyone had this working recently?
On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 23:40 +1100, Philip Rhoades wrote: > People, > > Some years ago this used to work for me but for the last few versions > of Fedora that I have used (12, 14 and now 16) I haven't had any luck - > the client keeps stopping. > > Has anyone got the latest version going on F16 x86_64? > I have it running on two PCs running F15 (x86_64) with no problems. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Logitech MX Revolution Mouse Problems, wheel button
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 10:19 -0500, William M. Quarles wrote: > Hi, > > I recently installed Fedora 15 after a long respite from Fedora 14, for > the first time in x86_64, and I was excited to see that I could finally > use the wheel button on my MX Logitech Revolution mouse as the "middle" > button for opening new tabs in Firefox and for instant select-copy-paste > (I'm not sure what the official name is for that feature, but I used to > love it). I don't think that the other more accessory buttons on the MX > Revolution used to work either, but now most of them do (namely Search, > Forward, and Back). > > **However, after my first session in Fedora 15, the wheel button stopped > working as the middle button.** > Hello, I have one of these mice and am using F15. I simply added the following commands to my .bash_profile file: if [ -n "`echo $DISPLAY | egrep '^(localhost)?:0'`" ]; then xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 17 3 4 5 8 9 6 7 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 2 18 19 20" fi The middle button is then used (typically) for moving forward/backwards in web pages, while the left top button is used for 'copy', and the thumb button (on the side) is used for paste. Needless to say, you can change this to your own requirements :-) To find out which buttons were producing an event I think I used something like 'xev'. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rkhunter daily cron
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 22:07 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 09/10/11 21:11, John Horne wrote: > > > >> Should I just replace the script with my own cronjob times? > >> as per some of the examples. > >> > > Hi, > > > > If you installed the rkhunter RPM package (either via yum or by > > downloading it) then I would just use what is supplied with the package. > > The supplied cronjob is fine, why change it? The fact that it is a > > script in cron.daily is no problem. > > > > If I knew what time in x.00 ir ran, > I would leave it alone. > But I havn't figured what time cron.daily runs. > Take a look at /etc/anacrontab and the man pages for crond, anacron and anacrontab. Basically, at least as far as I am aware, anacron does not necessarily start jobs at a particular time like cron, but will start them within a specified time period. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: rkhunter daily cron
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 17:20 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > rkhunter is run with cronjob daily. > > Have checked: > /etc/cron.daily/rkhunter > > but it's run with a script > not the usual crontab * ** .setup. > > Looked at > http://rkhunter.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/rkhunter/rkhunter/files/FAQ > > Should I just replace the script with my own cronjob times? > as per some of the examples. > Hi, If you installed the rkhunter RPM package (either via yum or by downloading it) then I would just use what is supplied with the package. The supplied cronjob is fine, why change it? The fact that it is a script in cron.daily is no problem. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: vi ? howto show cursor position
On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 19:32 +0100, John Horne wrote: > On 7 October 2011 18:01, Mike Wright wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > In previous fedora releases vi would display the cursor position as "row > > number" "character position" in the bottom right of the display. In > > f14's release of vi this is no longer true. > > > > I've looked through the command reference and don't see any way to > > restore that behavior. > > > > Is this something lost from the compiled distribution or is there some > > *:set* method that will turn it back on and, if so, would somebody share > > the magic formula? > > > You need the 'vim-enhanced' package installed, ':set ruler' will then > work. Your PATH should then find '/usr/bin/vim' in preference to > '/bin/vi'. > I should have clarified that by saying that vim-enhanced also installs /etc/profile.d/vim.sh which sets up the alias for 'vi=vim'. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: vi ? howto show cursor position
On 7 October 2011 18:01, Mike Wright wrote: > Hi all, > > In previous fedora releases vi would display the cursor position as "row > number" "character position" in the bottom right of the display. In > f14's release of vi this is no longer true. > > I've looked through the command reference and don't see any way to > restore that behavior. > > Is this something lost from the compiled distribution or is there some > *:set* method that will turn it back on and, if so, would somebody share > the magic formula? > You need the 'vim-enhanced' package installed, ':set ruler' will then work. Your PATH should then find '/usr/bin/vim' in preference to '/bin/vi'. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F15: firefox reload button - grey or green?
On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 11:10 +0100, John Horne wrote: > Hello, > > I recently upgraded (via fresh installs) both my home PC and work PC to > Fedora 15. No problems generally, but one odd thing I noticed. > > In firefox the reload button is a green colour at work, but grey at > home. Not 'greyed-out' as the 'stop' button is, but just a grey in > colour. I assumed this was just some sort of theme difference, but > looking through a sorted list of the installed rpms from the work and > home PCs I really cannot see what might be causing this. Customizing the > firefox toolbar makes no difference (I can add/remove things but not > change their colour). If I click on the button the current web page > reloads, but the button itself does not change at all on either PC. > (Unlike the 'stop' button which turns red whilst the page reloads, and > then becomes greyed-out when it has finished.) > > Anyone any ideas? As said, it's not a hindrance or am that bothered by > it, I'm more just curious as to why it has happened at all. > Okay, I have this sorted out now. The green reload button is an icon in the oxygen-icon-theme package. Konqueror uses the same icons it seems. Both PCs have the package installed. However on the work PC I must have told the desktop to use the Oxygen theme (probably when I did it it set something in my home directory and that was copied across when I upgraded to F15). On my home PC I went into the KDE menu System settings -> Application appearance -> Icons -> Oxygen icon theme. Once I had done that firefox showed the green reload button. John. -- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F15: firefox reload button - grey or green?
On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 21:20 +0100, Steve Searle wrote: > Around 11:10am on Thursday, July 28, 2011 (UK time), John Horne scrawled: > > > In firefox the reload button is a green colour at work, but grey at > > home. Not 'greyed-out' as the 'stop' button is, but just a grey in > > colour. I assumed this was just some sort of theme difference, but > > looking through a sorted list of the installed rpms from the work and > > home PCs I really cannot see what might be causing this. Customizing the > > firefox toolbar makes no difference (I can add/remove things but not > > change their colour). If I click on the button the current web page > > reloads, but the button itself does not change at all on either PC. > > (Unlike the 'stop' button which turns red whilst the page reloads, and > > then becomes greyed-out when it has finished.) > > Mine is grey also, although when I click on it it changes (briefly) into > a red cross while the page is refreshed. > Yes with the default toolbar, if I remember correctly, the reload button turns into a 'stop' button temporarily while the page is reloading. In my case I have customised the toolbar simply to separate the buttons out a bit. I also use 'icons and text'. However I did this with both PCs, so, again, the reload button should be the same for both. John. -- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F15: firefox reload button - grey or green?
Hello, I recently upgraded (via fresh installs) both my home PC and work PC to Fedora 15. No problems generally, but one odd thing I noticed. In firefox the reload button is a green colour at work, but grey at home. Not 'greyed-out' as the 'stop' button is, but just a grey in colour. I assumed this was just some sort of theme difference, but looking through a sorted list of the installed rpms from the work and home PCs I really cannot see what might be causing this. Customizing the firefox toolbar makes no difference (I can add/remove things but not change their colour). If I click on the button the current web page reloads, but the button itself does not change at all on either PC. (Unlike the 'stop' button which turns red whilst the page reloads, and then becomes greyed-out when it has finished.) Anyone any ideas? As said, it's not a hindrance or am that bothered by it, I'm more just curious as to why it has happened at all. Thanks, John. -- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ext4 with fc11
On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 14:09 +, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Could you confirm that fedora 11 cannot boot on an ext4 partition ? > (/ has to be ext3 ?). > what about fedora 12 ? > I think the restriction was that /boot could not be ext4. So if you created /boot as ext3, but / as ext4 then that was fine. I currently have /boot as ext3 on F13, so F12 and F11 would no doubt have the same restriction. John. -- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13 network and wpa_supplicant startup sequence
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 10:12 -0500, lxnf9...@comcast.net wrote: > I added a wireless card to a machine that has no gui interface installed, so > no NM > I configured wpa_supplicant and wlan startup script > What I do not get is when the machine boots wpa_supplicant starts after the > network script > If I run 'ifup wlan' after the boot sequence is complete the wireless > connection completes > The script /etc/init.d/network has 'chkconfig: - 10 90' and > /etc/init.d/wpa_supplicant has 'chkconfig: - 23 88' > What am I missing > It is probably right in front of me > I had the same problem. I modified the '/etc/init.d/network' startup script by adding the line: '# Required-Start: wpa_supplicant' into the '### BEGIN INIT INFO' section. It then starts wpa first. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 University of Plymouth, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 19:05 -0600, linux guy wrote: > > 2) Firefox is a bit unstable from time to time. > Likewise, I see it crash occassionally, usually when I am exiting it. Should investigate a bit further I guess and report it. John. -- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Evolution oddities in F13
On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 15:29 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 14:44 +0100, John Horne wrote: > > O > > But if there are no other messages in the folder, it remains as unread. > > That is the problem. I now have folders each with one message in them, > > and they are all (still!) marked as unread despite having read them all > > (and having set the 'mark as read after ...' option). To me that is a > > bug. > > In that case, right click and "mark as read". Yes it sucks that it shows > taht when only one message in the folder. If your deleting them, it > doesn't make a difference, but if your saving them, then guess it does. > Yup. I dug out your bugzilla entry and saw the response. So It seems this is in fact a feature working correctly. I guess because I had no problem with the previous action, but others did, so it seems odd to me. John. -- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: screensaver problem after upgrade from F12
On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 16:55 +0100, John Horne wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 16:27 +0100, John Horne wrote: > > Kevin T. Likes wrote: > > > > > > I recently upgraded from F12 to F13 using preupgrade. Everything > > > seemed to go well, except for one problem I think I've traced to the > > > screensaver. > > > It seems this has been bugzilled: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=601110 John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 University of Plymouth, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: screensaver problem after upgrade from F12
On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 16:27 +0100, John Horne wrote: > Kevin T. Likes wrote: > > > > I recently upgraded from F12 to F13 using preupgrade. Everything > > seemed to go well, except for one problem I think I've traced to the > > screensaver. > > > > When I lock the screen now at the console, I get logged out of my > > session after a short period of time (a few minutes) . My first > > thought was that maybe one of the screensavers was bad, so I went to > > change that one I was using, but as soon as I selected another one > > (not even having to hit preview), I get logged out, although it does > > seem the selection is changed. I tried unlocking immediately, and it > > works. If I unlock the screen after a couple of minutes, but before > > the unwanted logout, the screen just goes black, and I can't get in. > > The system is still running, though, since I can get in via SSH. > > > > I do see in /var/log/messages that is looks like Xorg is coredumping, > > but I don't see anything to indicate why. > > > > Has anyone else had this trouble? > > > Yes, maybe. It has happened twice now for me. The first time I assumed I > did something like tell the PC to logout rather than 'lock'. However, it > happened again a few minutes ago. I had a task running, and left my PC > to talk to someone else. I noticed when the screensaver kicked in, but > didn't look at my PC after that. A few mins later I came back and it had > logged out. I was left at the login screen. > > I have been able to lock and unlock the screensaver without a problem. > No blank screen. I do not see anything in any of the log files. > Wow! Spoke too soon :-) It happened again as I was talking to someone. Screensaver was running, I moved the mouse and got the 'unlock' box. Entered my password, and it just crashed, and I ended up with the login screen. In my daemon log (I filter saemon stuff to a seperate log file) I can see: Jun 7 16:46:59 jhorne abrt[11255]: saved core dump of pid 6605 (/usr/bin/Xorg) to /var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1275925617-6605.new/coredump (59949056 bytes) Jun 7 16:46:59 jhorne abrtd: Directory 'ccpp-1275925617-6605' creation detected Jun 7 16:46:59 jhorne abrtd: Crash is in database already (dup of /var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1275667541-2204) Jun 7 16:46:59 jhorne abrtd: Deleting crash ccpp-1275925617-6605 (dup of ccpp-1275667541-2204), sending dbus signal Jun 7 16:46:59 jhorne kdm[2118]: X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly So it does look like Xorg is crashing. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 University of Plymouth, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: screensaver problem after upgrade from F12
Kevin T. Likes wrote: > > I recently upgraded from F12 to F13 using preupgrade. Everything > seemed to go well, except for one problem I think I've traced to the > screensaver. > > When I lock the screen now at the console, I get logged out of my > session after a short period of time (a few minutes) . My first > thought was that maybe one of the screensavers was bad, so I went to > change that one I was using, but as soon as I selected another one > (not even having to hit preview), I get logged out, although it does > seem the selection is changed. I tried unlocking immediately, and it > works. If I unlock the screen after a couple of minutes, but before > the unwanted logout, the screen just goes black, and I can't get in. > The system is still running, though, since I can get in via SSH. > > I do see in /var/log/messages that is looks like Xorg is coredumping, > but I don't see anything to indicate why. > > Has anyone else had this trouble? > Yes, maybe. It has happened twice now for me. The first time I assumed I did something like tell the PC to logout rather than 'lock'. However, it happened again a few minutes ago. I had a task running, and left my PC to talk to someone else. I noticed when the screensaver kicked in, but didn't look at my PC after that. A few mins later I came back and it had logged out. I was left at the login screen. I have been able to lock and unlock the screensaver without a problem. No blank screen. I do not see anything in any of the log files. I am using the KDE 4D Hypertorus screensaver. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 University of Plymouth, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Evolution oddities in F13
On Sat, 2010-06-05 at 22:03 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Sat, 2010-06-05 at 19:33 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > > * The first message selected in a window doesn't change status > > from unread to read until I change it by hand. > > > > Above isn't a bug. It actually was suppose to do this same thing in F12 > but there was a bug that prevented it. But this is the way it's suppose > to work. It will change if you select on another one then come back to > it. And if there are other emails in the folder, i think it will change > status but can't remember. > But if there are no other messages in the folder, it remains as unread. That is the problem. I now have folders each with one message in them, and they are all (still!) marked as unread despite having read them all (and having set the 'mark as read after ...' option). To me that is a bug. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 University of Plymouth, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: Evolution icons - configurable?
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 12:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 16:41 +0100, John Horne wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I recently upgraded to Fedora 13, and am finding the evolution mail > > client icons a bit awkward. I use KDE for the desktop. I found this > > image on the 'net of basically what it use to look like: > > http://www.backuphowto.info/files/images/howto/2007/linux-screw-10-total-4-unread-evolution.png > > > > Personally I preferred the old icons, is there any way re-install them? > > My specific nit is that the icons for Delete and Junk look almost identical, > causing a lot of > visual confusion. > I would agree. The F11 'delete' icon is a large red cross, completely different from the 'junk' icon, whereas all the other icons are the same as I see under F13. However, with text underneath the icons, they do get spread out a bit more. (Although getting F13 to use icons with text is proving difficult!) John. -- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13: Evolution icons - configurable?
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 16:41 +0100, John Horne wrote: > Hello, > > I recently upgraded to Fedora 13, and am finding the evolution mail > client icons a bit awkward. I use KDE for the desktop. I found this > image on the 'net of basically what it use to look like: > http://www.backuphowto.info/files/images/howto/2007/linux-screw-10-total-4-unread-evolution.png > > Personally I preferred the old icons, is there any way re-install them? > > If not, then: > > 1) I used to have both icons and text on the taskbar (as in the > picture). Now I only have the icons. Anyway I can get both back again? > > 2) The icons are a bit small. Anyway to increase their size? > > 3) The icons are quite close together, and over to the left of the > application window. As seen in the picture, the icons used to be spread > along the top. Anyway to spread out the icons a bit? > Okay, it seems all 3 above are related. My work PC is still running F11 (until Friday), and I had a look at its Evolution settings today. Using 'gconf-editor' these 2 were set: /desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_icons_size "large-toolbar" /desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_style "both" Now, just by stopping/starting Evolution I could change these settings, and see the effect. If I changed the toolbar style to 'icons' and used a 'small-toolbar', then I get pretty much exactly what I have under F13. (In fact the only difference seems to be the icon for 'delete message'.) If I changed it back to a style of 'both' - that is, icons and text, and a large toolbar, then the icons are more spread out, presumably because they have to cater for the text underneath as well now. It all appears as I want it. So, at home with F13, I set both of these using gconf-editor - to use a large toolbar with both icons and text. I restarted Evolution, and nothing changed. I logged out and in; no change. I rebooted the machine; no change. Gconf-editor (and gconftool-2) shows that these values have been set. I can also seem them in my ~/.gconf/... xml file. But for some reason Evolution (and others?) is ignoring them. I'll play a bit more with this, but this seems like a bug to me. John. -- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13: Evolution icons - configurable?
Hello, I recently upgraded to Fedora 13, and am finding the evolution mail client icons a bit awkward. I use KDE for the desktop. I found this image on the 'net of basically what it use to look like: http://www.backuphowto.info/files/images/howto/2007/linux-screw-10-total-4-unread-evolution.png Personally I preferred the old icons, is there any way re-install them? If not, then: 1) I used to have both icons and text on the taskbar (as in the picture). Now I only have the icons. Anyway I can get both back again? 2) The icons are a bit small. Anyway to increase their size? 3) The icons are quite close together, and over to the left of the application window. As seen in the picture, the icons used to be spread along the top. Anyway to spread out the icons a bit? Thanks, John. -- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: mcelog update
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 10:21 -0400, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: > Since my 8 fedora 11 hosts did their March 20 update of mcelog I have > been getting hourly e-mails from cron on each host with the text : > > /etc/cron.hourly/mcelog.cron: > > mcelog: warning: 18446744073709551600 bytes ignored in each record > mcelog: consider an update > > This bug contains the exact test of the warning : > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501512 > That bug has been closed, but the current problem is discussed in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538550 Note the last comment (#13) about downgrading mcelog if the messages are a problem. John. -- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
