from:"Linuxguy123"

$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE #1 SMP Mon Feb 7
06:57:55 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

Am I missing something or is this the latest F14 kernel available ?
When are we going to see some newer kernels ?

Thanks 

LG


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Re: When are we going to see some newer kernels ?

On Fri, 2011-04-15 at 10:17 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:

 Maybe you should update your system more often:
 
 [joe@khorlia Desktop]$ uname -a
 Linux khorlia.zeff.us 2.6.35.12-88.fc14.i686 #1 SMP Thu Mar 31 22:12:38 
 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
 

Maybe I should reboot it more often.

$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.35.12-88.fc14.i686.PAE #1 SMP Thu Mar 31
21:54:35 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

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Re: When are we going to see some newer kernels ?

On Fri, 2011-04-15 at 11:08 -0600, Phil Meyer wrote:

snip

 Does this make sense?
Yes.

 Its a whole lot of work to get all of the Fedora/RH patches lined up
 for 
 any given 2.6.XX release.
 
 It is much more manageable to go into maintenance mode after a major 
 Fedora release, and limit kernel patches to security and performance 
 enhancements.  This also helps clarify what kinds of things should go 
 upstream.
 
 I would bet very strongly against a  2.6.35 kernel for Fedora 14 at 
 this point.

Its going to be a long couple months waiting for a 2.6.37 kernel.  

I'm glad to hear that F15 will eventually have 2.6.39 kernels.

LG

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Re: When are we going to see some newer kernels ?

On Fri, 2011-04-15 at 13:10 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:35:59 -0600,
   Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote:
  Its going to be a long couple months waiting for a 2.6.37 kernel.  
  
  I'm glad to hear that F15 will eventually have 2.6.39 kernels.
 
 I am running the kernel from F15 on an F14 box and things seem to be working
 well right now. While that isn't supported in general, if there is something
 you really want from 2.6.38 it would probably work right now.

Thanks for sharing that.

Did you set this up in yum ?   If so, how ?

Thanks !

LG


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Update Re: Paperless office... document management ? (High speed scanner)

2011-04-11 Thread Linuxguy123

I'm going to share my experience in case someone else is contemplating
going paperless like we were.

The Dell 3335dn (printer, scanner, copier, fax machine/server )arrived
last week.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=uscs=04l=ensku=224-8405

Disclaimer.  I have no affiliation with Dell.

I did a quick, dirty and incomplete setup on it and started scanning to
a USB mass storage device, ie flash thumb drive. (The 3335 also supports
scanning to an ftp server !)

The 3335dn is an incredible scanner.  The touchscreen UI is very
intuitive and flexible.  The (duplex!) document feeder works very well.
The scans are high quality and fast, though double sided scans are a bit
slower due to the speed of how the duplexer turns the page over.

In 2 hours I scanned about 100 documents.  About 10 pounds of paper
considering the envelopes, advertising, inserts, etc.  The documents
consisted of bulky insurance documents,  contracts.  bank statements,
brochures, invoices, receipts, monthly statements and correspondence.
Sizes ranged from the usual legal and letter stuff to various odd sizes.
BW and color. Single sided and double sided.  Landscape and portrait.
The 3335dn handles it all. 

I've since scanned about 300 documents.

Everything has come out great.

Here is a great example.  I have this paper catalog that I frequently
use.  The vendor doesn't or won't provide a digital copy.  Mine
frequently gets lost and other people want to use it.  Its about 100
pages, 8.5 x 11, color, double sided.

I pulled the staples out of my copy and cut it in half down the binding
center.  I trimmed up the edges a bit and slipped half of them into the
document feeder and pressed Scan It   When the first half was done, I
scanned the second half.  I got 2 really good color pdf files, 50 pages
each !

The 3335 isn't perfect.

For one thing the document feeder has a single roller wheel in the
center.  It works fairly well except that if the edges of the pages
aren't great (like if you cut apart a catalog), the pages tend to go
through a bit crooked. Its no big deal, but it would be great if the
feed drive had several rollers instead of just a central one.  Having
said all this, the 3335 document feeder jammed only once and I was
feeding some pretty horrendous paper through it. 

It also isn't the fastest printer when warm up times are taken into
account.  But once through the warm up sequence, its great. 

A really neat thing about the 3335 is that it will print the first copy
of a job and then wait for input on whether to Finish the job.  At
first I found it annoying, but now I find it very useful in that I don't
waste paper with an incorrect copy or print job.

Back to the issue at hand... thanks to the 3335dn, we have now converted
a ton of paper into pdf and jpg files.  Its incredible how much that
cleaned up my office.   

While we haven't done much organizing other than sorting them into
folders (something that can be done right at the 3335 when scanning them
if desired), our office is much tidier and the documents are much, much
more accessable.  The utility of this simple step alone is huge.  

Prior to scanning our documents we were contemplating the purchase of an
industrial sized filing cabinet and we dreaded searching for specific
pieces of paper.  Our office is much, much more efficient now and I only
see it getting better as we do more with the documents. 

So far going paperless has been a huge success and we don't regret it
for a second.

The best thing is the elimination of piles of paper as a means to
organize things.   One of the things I find myself doing is keeping a
Todo list in Writer and with every item I now have a link to the
documents that concern it.  Very, very handy.  That fact alone reduces
the barriers to getting things done.

Its also very handy to be able to send an email to someone and attach
the actual document that is being discussed. 

Of course this story isn't complete.  I'll update our progress as we go
along, including how we integrate the documents into other software
applications we use. 

LG


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SOLVED Re: 2560x1600 display issue. (x11?, nvidia 8800 GTS, hdmi, dvi-d, Dell U3011)

On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 23:09 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: 
 On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 22:17 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:
  Any and all advice on how to proceed from here, ie exactly what to put
  in the xorg.conf file to tell the driver to ignore EDID and probings
  and
  use a modeline directly, will be appreciated. 
 
 I just found this in the log file.
 
 26.275] (WW) NOUVEAU(0): Option UseEDID is not used

I switched back to the nvidia driver and got this.

  24.634] (**) NVIDIA(0): Option UseEDID False
[24.635] (**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
[24.635] (**) NVIDIA(0): Ignoring EDIDs
[24.635] (II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and
Composite X extensions is
[24.635] (II) NVIDIA(0): enabled.
[26.072] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Not probing EDID on DFP-0.
[26.073] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Not probing EDID on DFP-1.
[26.080] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 8800M GTS (G92) at
PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
[26.080] (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes
[26.080] (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 62.92.23.00.17
[26.080] (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X
[26.080] (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on
this GPU
[26.080] (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce
8800M GTS at PCI:1:0:0
[26.080] (--) NVIDIA(0): DFP-0
[26.080] (--) NVIDIA(0): DFP-1
[26.080] (--) NVIDIA(0): DFP-0: 330.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
[26.080] (--) NVIDIA(0): DFP-0: Internal Dual Link LVDS
[26.080] (--) NVIDIA(0): DFP-1: 165.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
[26.080] (--) NVIDIA(0): DFP-1: Internal Single Link TMDS

The good news is that UseEDID False is working.

The bad news is that DFP-1 is the HDMI port.   So the video card channel
that feeds it is only rated for 165MHz output, which isn't enough to
drive the U3011 at 2560x1600.  Ironically, HP uses 330 MHz of bandwidth
to drive the internal display, which is only 1680x1050.

BUT WAIT.   This laptop will drive 2 displays if I turn off the internal
display.  Surely the HDMI port would get the 330 MHz dlock then ?  Long
story short, it doesn't.   The dual link port stays assigned to the
internal display panel and the HDMI port gets the single link port.

Even though Nvidia advertises some G8800s to have dual dual link
interfaces.

Two dual-link DVI outputs for digital flat panel display resolutions up
to 2560x1600

Dual Dual-link DVI Support:
Able to drive the industry's largest and highest resolution flat-panel
displays up to 2560x1600. Available on select GeForce 8800 and 8600
GPUs. 

http://www.nvidia.com/page/8800_features.html

In summary, there is no external port on the HDX9494 with a pixel rate
high enough to properly drive the U3011.  Unless one can redirect DFP-0
to the HDMI port, there is no way to fix this problem.

Is there a way to reassign the internal video card port to the HDMI
port ?

The other interesting thing is that HP lists the pixel rate for
1920x1200 as 193.5 MHz in the U3011 manual, which is greater than the
supposed 165 MHz clock limit on DFP-1 and it appears to drive it just
fine. 

From the U3011 manual:
VESA, 1920 x 1200   74.6   60.0   193.5   -/+




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Re: 2560x1600 display issue. (x11?, nvidia 8800 GTS, hdmi, dvi-d, Dell U3011)

On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 21:49 -0700, Nataraj wrote:
 On 04/08/2011 09:17 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
  On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 21:59 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:
  I'll connect to the DVI port and rerun it.
 I have had similar difficulty getting a Dell U3011 to run at 2560x1600
 on a MacMini with an Nvidia GeForce 320M.  Using the displayport
 interface on both the 320M and the U3011, the best I can get is
 1920x1440.   I did play with the xorg.conf file quite extensively, but
 didn't do any better trying to specify modelines.  I am using the Nvidia
 driver.

You might want to check this thread out.
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=160758

DisplayPort should be capable of driving the monitor to full resolution.


 I also had difficulty trying to get a second monitor to work.  The
 second monitor is a Dell U2410.  I can get either monitor to work fine
 alone, but when I try to start the xserver with 2 monitors connected,
 the second monitor can't sync.  The second monitor (U2410) is connected
 to the HDMI port.

I can get 2 monitors working on the HDX.  First I connect one monitor to
the VGA port and get it working.   Then I disable the laptop display.
Then I add the second monitor.

Right now I am running the U3011 at 1920x1200 and the FPW2007 at
1680x1050.



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Re: SOLVED Re: 2560x1600 display issue. (x11?, nvidia 8800 GTS, hdmi, dvi-d, Dell U3011)

On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 23:59 -0700, Nataraj wrote:
 On 04/08/2011 11:40 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: 

 snip

 You can't do 2560x1600 using the HDMI interface on the U3011. 

a) I didn't know that when I bought it.  Now I do.

b) I am not using the HDMI port on the U3011.   I bought a HDMI to Dual
Link DVI adapter.
http://us.startech.com/product/HDMIDVIFM-HDMI-Female-to-DVI-Male-Adapter 

I am thus using the DVI port on the U3011

  Only the DVI (using dual DVI cable) and displayport interface will go
 up to that resolution.  The HDMI interface only goes up to 1920x1200.

I pointed the out in the original post.



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Re: 2560x1600 display issue. (x11?, nvidia 8800 GTS, hdmi, dvi-d, Dell U3011)

On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 10:20 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote:
 On 09/04/11 04:05, Linuxguy123 wrote:

snip

  How do I get my HDX to drive the U3011 at 2560x1600 ?
 
 You can't.  It's not physically capable.
 
 With a dual-link DVI setup you'll see
 
 [31.372] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Printing probed modes for output DVI-I-1
 [31.372] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 2560x1600x59.9  268.00  2560 2608 
 2640 2720  1600 1603 1609 1646 +hsync +vsync (98.5 kHz)
 [31.372] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 1280x800x59.9   71.00  1280 1328 
 1360 1440  800 803 809 823 +hsync -vsync (49.3 kHz)

a) You are right.

b) It should.   

HDMI 1.3 has enough bandwith.   See here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

But Dell crippled its HDMI input on the U3011 to 1920x1200.  One can get
around that issue by using a Dual Link HDMI to DVI adapter such as this
one.

http://us.startech.com/product/HDMIDVIFM-HDMI-Female-to-DVI-Male-Adapter

The real issue is that either Nvidia or HP made the decision to drive
the HDMI port on my HDX with a single link output instead of a dual link
output.

Its very interesting to read as I get more into this that even laptops
with DisplayPorts aren't guaranteed to drive a monitor at 2560x1600.  I
thought that was the point of all these fancy high bandwidth
interfaces ! 

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2560x1600 display issue due to copyright issues ?

The Dell 3007WFP and Hewlett Packard LP3065 30 LCD monitors require a
graphics card with a dual-link DVI port to drive the ultra high native
resolution of 2560x1600 which these monitors support. With the current
family of NVIDIA Geforce 8  7 series HDCP capable GPU's, playback of
HDCP content is limited to single-link DVI connection only.  HDCP is
disabled over a dual-link DVI connection.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=759929
 
So it seems as though copyright issues prevent graphics card or laptop
manufacturers from enabling the full bandwidth of an HDMI 1.3 port and
thus regular users like me from using a U3011 monitor for work purposes.

It should be noted that the member who posted that little tidbit of
information has answered that question and only that question.  Seems to
me he is an industry insider.

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Fan control with nouveau controller ?

I'm running a fully up to date F14 installation on my laptop. 

For various reasons today I uninstalled the nvidia driver and installed
the nouveau driver.   My laptop has a GeForce 8800 GTS video card.

Everything works but I can hear the video fan running constantly which
is annoying and wasteful of the battery.

How do I get the video fan under control ?

Thanks

LG

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Re: Fan control with nouveau controller ?

On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 19:46 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 I'm running a fully up to date F14 installation on my laptop. 
 
 For various reasons today I uninstalled the nvidia driver and installed
 the nouveau driver.   My laptop has a GeForce 8800 GTS video card.
 
 Everything works but I can hear the video fan running constantly which
 is annoying and wasteful of the battery.
 
 How do I get the video fan under control ?

For whatever reason, my video fan just throttled down.   Something
to do with the first run ?



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2560x1600 display issue. (x11?, nvidia 8800 GTS, hdmi, dvi-d, Dell U3011)

I received the Dell U3011 monitor today, which has a native display
resolution of 2560x1600.

I have an HP HDX9494 with an Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS video card in it
that I am using to drive it.

The user manual for the U3011 is here
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/MONITORS/U3011/en/ug/about.htm

The specs for the HDX9494 is here
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01490775tmp_task=prodinfoCategorylc=endlc=encc=usos=2100product=3747924sw_lang=

Info on the Geforce 8800 GTS is here
http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce_8800.html
http://www.nvidia.com/page/8800_tech_specs.html

The problem is that I can't get the laptop to HDX9494 to drive the U3011
at 2560x1600.

The U3011 has several inputs, HDMI, DisplayPort, DVI (Dual link) and
VGA.

According to the manual, the highest preset resolution of the monitor
when using the HDMI input is 1920x1600 @ 60 Hz. The highest preset
resolution is 2560x1600 for DVI and DisplayPort inputs.

The HDX laptop does not have a DVI or DisplayPort output. It does have
an HDMI port.

According to the GF8800 documentation, it has two dual link DVI ports
that support 2560x1600.

The HDMI wiki tells me that HDMI 1.3 should support 1560x1600@ 24 bits
at 75Hz. HDMI 1.3 was released in 2006 and the HDX was built in 2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

When I connect the HDX to the U3011 HDMI port using a High Speed HDMI
cable, the maximum resolution I am able to select from the configuration
software is 1920 x 1200.

When I connect the HDX to the U3011 DVI port using a High Speed HDMI
cable and a dual link HDMI to DVI adapter, the maximum resolution I am
able to select from the configuration software is 1600 x 1200

I have tried this with both the proprietary nvidia driver and the
nouveau driver.

I have tried manually editing the xorg.conf file with various modelines
to no avail.

When I run the nvidia-setting software and look at the properties of the
display, it shows a dual link connection for the built in 1680x1050
display and a single link connection for the HDMI device.

How do I get my HDX to drive the U3011 at 2560x1600 ?

Is this a hardware problem or a software problem ?

Does the nouveau driver use the xorg.conf file the way the proprietary
driver does, ie does it use modelines ?

Thanks !

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Re: Fan control with nouveau controller ?

On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 22:16 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
 Linuxguy123 writes:
 
  On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 19:46 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:
   I'm running a fully up to date F14 installation on my laptop.
  
   For various reasons today I uninstalled the nvidia driver and installed
   the nouveau driver.   My laptop has a GeForce 8800 GTS video card.
  
   Everything works but I can hear the video fan running constantly which
   is annoying and wasteful of the battery.
  
   How do I get the video fan under control ?
 
  For whatever reason, my video fan just throttled down.   Something
  to do with the first run ?
 
 Are you certain that you're hearing the GPU fan, and not the CPU fan?

I'm pretty sure its the GPU fan.   I know what the CPU fan is like
because I've heard it since I got it.  I installed the nouveau driver
today and for the first time I heard the GPU fan by itself.
Furthermore, not only does it sound different, it comes from a different
part of the laptop.  Interesting experience.


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Re: 2560x1600 display issue. (x11?, nvidia 8800 GTS, hdmi, dvi-d, Dell U3011)

On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 20:18 -0700, JD wrote:
 On 04/08/2011 08:14 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
  On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 21:05:36 -0600,
 
 Some time ago I had a slightly similar problem,
 but I had no idea how to generate the correct
 modelines, and because I was afraid I would fry
 the monitor :), I did not experiment.

I played around with this tool.
http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl

Not sure if its current or not.  When I plug in the numbers from the
U3011 user guide, it spits out settings for 2560x1440 instead of
2560x1600.   

Makes me wonder if the nvidia and nouveau drivers have a software
limitation of some sort, thus my question of is this a software or a
hardware issue.




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Re: 2560x1600 display issue. (x11?, nvidia 8800 GTS, hdmi, dvi-d, Dell U3011)

On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 20:18 -0700, JD wrote:
 On 04/08/2011 08:14 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
  On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 21:05:36 -0600,
 Linuxguy123linuxguy...@gmail.com  wrote:
  Does the nouveau driver use the xorg.conf file the way the proprietary
  driver does, ie does it use modelines ?
  I use modelines for a monitor that doesn't do EDID (at least not properly)
  with an NV28 in order to get it to use 1280 x 1024 instead if 1024 x 768.
 Some time ago I had a slightly similar problem,
 but I had no idea how to generate the correct
 modelines, and because I was afraid I would fry
 the monitor :), I did not experiment.

http://www.arachnoid.com/modelines/ give me

# 2560x1600 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 99.36 kHz; pclk: 348.16 MHz
Modeline 2560x1600_60.00 348.16 2560 2752 3032 3504 1600 1601 1604
1656 -HSync +Vsync

which doesn't agree with the number from the table in the U3011 manual

VESA, 2560 x 1600 98.71 60.0 268.5 +Hsync / -Vsync

I'll try it out as soon as I hear if the nouveau driver is using
modeline in xorg.conf or not.

Aside.  I'm using the KDE display tool in Settings-System-Settings.  It
doesn't display as much information as nividia-settings, but it does
some things (monitor rotation, etc.) better.

What is interesting to me is that I get a different horizontal
resolution (1600 versus 1920) when I use the DVI adapter.  That tells me
the video card is trying to do something different.  Is the driver
supposed to sync up the card to the monitor in the absense of correct
modelines ?

BTW: I thought the 20 inch display on my HDX was high quality.   The
U3011 (running 1920x1600 in 1:1 display mode) blows it away.  Its almost
too sharp and bright.   But that can be adjusted.  The HDX display looks
like trash now.  Dull, faded and fuzzy.

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Re: 2560x1600 display issue. (x11?, nvidia 8800 GTS, hdmi, dvi-d, Dell U3011)

On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 23:32 -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
 On 04/08/2011 11:05 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:

  Does the nouveau driver use the xorg.conf file the way the proprietary
  driver does, ie does it use modelines ?
 
 For the answer to this question, look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file,
 and follow the messages of the nouveau driver as it initializes itself
 and determines modes and resolutions.  Its very informative.  If it is
 excluding the resolutions you want, you'll at least know *why* it is
 doing that.

Its really interesting that you said that because it prodded me to look
at the output for nouveau and I found its very verbose in this regard.
Much better than the nvidia driver.  

Here is a pertinent snippet.  None of the EDID info goes past 1920x1200,
which is the maximum resolution that I am attaining.  This was run with
the monitor connected to the HDMI port, which Dell says has a limit
of... 1920x1200.

I'll connect to the DVI port and rerun it.


[  2146.000] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID for output HDMI-1
[  2146.000] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Manufacturer: DEL  Model: 4064  Serial#:
808595788
[  2146.000] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Year: 2011  Week: 10
[  2146.000] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID Version: 1.3
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Digital Display Input
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 64  vert.: 40
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Gamma: 2.20
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb
4:4:4 
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): redX: 0.678 redY: 0.309   greenX: 0.210
greenY: 0.692
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): blueX: 0.146 blueY: 0.055   whiteX: 0.313
whiteY: 0.329
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported established timings:
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 720x400@70Hz
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 640x480@60Hz
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 640x480@75Hz
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 800x600@60Hz
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 800x600@75Hz
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1024x768@60Hz
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1024x768@75Hz
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1280x1024@75Hz
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported standard timings:
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): #0: hsize: 1152  vsize 864  refresh: 75
vid: 20337
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): #1: hsize: 1280  vsize 800  refresh: 60
vid: 129
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): #2: hsize: 1280  vsize 1024  refresh: 60
vid: 32897
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): #3: hsize: 1920  vsize 1200  refresh: 60
vid: 209
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): #4: hsize: 1600  vsize 1200  refresh: 60
vid: 16553
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported detailed timing:
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): clock: 154.0 MHz   Image Size:  641 x 401
mm
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): h_active: 1920  h_sync: 1968  h_sync_end
2000 h_blank_end 2080 h_border: 0
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): v_active: 1200  v_sync: 1203  v_sync_end
1209 v_blanking: 1235 v_border: 0
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Serial No: PH5NY13A021L
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Monitor name: DELL U3011
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Ranges: V min: 49 V max: 86 Hz, H min: 29
H max: 94 kHz, PixClock max 185 MHz
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported detailed timing:
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): clock: 148.5 MHz   Image Size:  641 x 401
mm
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): h_active: 1920  h_sync: 2008  h_sync_end
2052 h_blank_end 2200 h_border: 0
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): v_active: 1080  v_sync: 1084  v_sync_end
1089 v_blanking: 1125 v_border: 0
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported detailed timing:
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): clock: 74.2 MHz   Image Size:  641 x 401
mm
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): h_active: 1920  h_sync: 2008  h_sync_end
2052 h_blank_end 2200 h_border: 0
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): v_active: 540  v_sync: 542  v_sync_end 547
v_blanking: 562 v_border: 0
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported detailed timing:
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): clock: 74.2 MHz   Image Size:  641 x 401
mm
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): h_active: 1280  h_sync: 1390  h_sync_end
1430 h_blank_end 1650 h_border: 0
[  2146.001] (II) NOUVEAU(0): v_active: 720  v_sync: 725  v_sync_end 730
v_blanking: 750 v_border: 0
[  2146.002] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported detailed timing:
[  2146.002] (II) NOUVEAU(0): clock: 27.0 MHz   Image Size:  641 x 401
mm
[  2146.002] (II) NOUVEAU(0): h_active: 720  h_sync: 736  h_sync_end 798
h_blank_end 858 h_border: 0
[  2146.002] (II) NOUVEAU(0): v_active: 480  v_sync: 489  v_sync_end 495
v_blanking: 525 v_border: 0
[  2146.002] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Number of EDID sections to follow: 1
[  2146.002] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID (in hex):
[  2146.002] (II) NOUVEAU(0):   000010ac64404c313230
[  2146.002] (II) NOUVEAU(0):   0a15010380402878ea8d85ad4f35b125
[  2146.002] (II) NOUVEAU(0):   0e5054a54b00714f81008180d100a940
[  2146.002] (II) NOUVEAU(0):   010101010101283c80a070b023403020
[  2146.002] (II

Re: 2560x1600 display issue. (x11?, nvidia 8800 GTS, hdmi, dvi-d, Dell U3011)

On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 21:59 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 I'll connect to the DVI port and rerun it.

Here is the snippet when connected to the DVI port with the dual link
adapter.   The highest resolution found is 1600x1200, which is what I
attain.

I am confused about what is obtained by probing and what is obtained
from EDID data.

Nevertheless, there is no 2560x1600 mode appearing.

Is this a bug in the Dell EDID data ?  The nvidia-setting application
had the option to open an EDID file, which I did not pursue.

Any and all advice on how to proceed from here, ie exactly what to put
in the xorg.conf file to tell the driver to ignore EDID and probings and
use a modeline directly, will be appreciated.

Kudos to the nouveau people for putting this much information in the log
file. 

Thanks !

BTW, PixClock max 285 MHz is quite a bit less than the maximum pixel
rate for HDMI 1.3, which is probably what the card in the HDX puts out.


[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID for output HDMI-1
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Manufacturer: DEL  Model: 4063  Serial#:
808595788
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Year: 2011  Week: 10
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID Version: 1.3
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Digital Display Input
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 64  vert.: 40
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Gamma: 2.20
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb
4:4:4 
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): redX: 0.678 redY: 0.309   greenX: 0.210
greenY: 0.692
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): blueX: 0.146 blueY: 0.055   whiteX: 0.313
whiteY: 0.329
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported established timings:
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 720x400@70Hz
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 640x480@60Hz
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 640x480@75Hz
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 800x600@60Hz
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 800x600@75Hz
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1024x768@60Hz
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1024x768@75Hz
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1280x1024@75Hz
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported standard timings:
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): #0: hsize: 1152  vsize 864  refresh: 75
vid: 20337
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): #1: hsize: 1280  vsize 800  refresh: 60
vid: 129
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): #2: hsize: 1280  vsize 1024  refresh: 60
vid: 32897
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): #3: hsize: 1600  vsize 1200  refresh: 60
vid: 16553
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): #4: hsize: 1920  vsize 1200  refresh: 60
vid: 209
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): #5: hsize: 1920  vsize 1440  refresh: 60
vid: 16593
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported detailed timing:
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): clock: 268.5 MHz   Image Size:  641 x 401
mm
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): h_active: 2560  h_sync: 2608  h_sync_end
2640 h_blank_end 2720 h_border: 0
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): v_active: 1600  v_sync: 1603  v_sync_end
1609 v_blanking: 1646 v_border: 0
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Serial No: PH5NY13A021L
[  8616.303] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Monitor name: DELL U3011
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Ranges: V min: 49 V max: 86 Hz, H min: 29
H max: 113 kHz, PixClock max 285 MHz
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID (in hex):
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0):   000010ac63404c313230
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0):   0a15010380402878ea8d85ad4f35b125
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0):   0e5054a54b00714f81008180a940d100
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0):   d14001010101e26800a0a0402e603020
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0):   36008191211a00ff00504835
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0):   4e593133413032314c0a00fc0044
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0):   454c4c2055333031310a202000fd
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0):   0031561d711c000a20202020202000ca
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Printing probed modes for output HDMI-1
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 1600x1200x60.0  162.00  1600
1664 1856 2160  1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync (75.0 kHz)
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 1280x1024x75.0  135.00  1280
1296 1440 1688  1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz)
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 1280x1024x60.0  108.00  1280
1328 1440 1688  1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz)
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 1280x800x59.8   83.50  1280
1352 1480 1680  800 803 809 831 +hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz)
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 1152x864x75.0  108.00  1152
1216 1344 1600  864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz)
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 1024x768x75.1   78.80  1024
1040 1136 1312  768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.1 kHz)
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 1024x768x60.0   65.00  1024
1048 1184 1344  768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz)
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 800x600x75.0   49.50  800 816
896 1056  600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz)
[  8616.304] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 800x600x60.3   40.00

Re: 2560x1600 display issue. (x11?, nvidia 8800 GTS, hdmi, dvi-d, Dell U3011)

On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 22:17 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 Any and all advice on how to proceed from here, ie exactly what to put
 in the xorg.conf file to tell the driver to ignore EDID and probings
 and
 use a modeline directly, will be appreciated. 

I just found this in the log file.

26.275] (WW) NOUVEAU(0): Option UseEDID is not used


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Re: OT: one huge monitor or 2 smaller or bigger ones ? SOLVED.

On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 17:38 +0930, Tim wrote:

 By the time you get around to playing with dual monitors, you might want
 to consider if what you really want is one *HUGE* monitor with very high
 resolution.

In case its been missed, I'm doing both.

I ordered a Dell U3011 (2560 x 1600) as my main monitor and I'll be
using a 20 inch monitor (1680 x 1050) on the side in portrait
orientation.  So I'll still have a dual monitor setup and I'll also have
one huge monitor.  Its probably the best of both worlds. 

I'll post back how I like it once I've used it for a while.

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Re: OT: one huge monitor or 2 smaller or bigger ones ? SOLVED.

On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 22:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 04/04/2011 09:15 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
  I'll post back how I like it once I've used it for a while.
 
 Don't worry  No matter what you say about how well it works for
 you there will be someone that will argue that what you are doing
 isn't optimal and you should do it their way'.  :-)

True enough.  And yet one of those you should do it my way posts
really helped me.   

I would have never considered a 30 inch display when I started this
process.   Someone suggested it in a reply to my original question and,
with an open mind, I went looking.  Lo and behold, it makes a lot of
sense, for a number of reasons.

2 big monitors side by side would look like this.
http://img.hexus.net/v2/graphics_cards/ati/avivo_early_look/images/dual-cinema-big.jpg

In my opinion, that doesn't work well.  One of them needs to the primary
display and the other needs to be angled off to the side.  With big
monitors, (27+ inches) I think that is clumsy.  

3 of them are even worse.
http://macdailynews.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/070520_algore.jpg

The only way I could see making use of that screen area is with a roller
chair moving side to side.

This is what made sense to me.
http://www.blakespot.com/images/blake_hp_apple_1024.jpg

Its still a dual monitor setup and it has the advantages of a huge
primary monitor.

Like I said, I'll let everyone know how it turns out. Its a free world.
They are free to disagree.



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Claws versus Evolution for email.

I'm interested to hear the pros and cons of Claws versus Evolution for
handling email.   

I'm subscribed to about 10 email groups.  I do a ton of filtering, into
about 20 different folders.

I don't have anything against Evolution.  I've been using it for almost
10 years.  However, it seems a bit stale and jaded.

How is Claws compared to Evolution ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claws_Mail

http://www.claws-mail.org/

What is the Perl filtering and Python scripting about ?

Thanks !



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RE: Claws versus Evolution for email.

On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 19:45 +0200, mattias wrote:
 Gnome or kde?

I run KDE.   

Claws appears to be Gnome based, but also runs on Windows ?


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Re: Claws versus Evolution for email.

On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 15:28 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
 I don't use claws filtering though, I run a local dovecot
 server (so I can do things like access my mail remotely
 from my phone if I want to via IMAP), and the dovecot-pigeonhole
 plugin works for all my filtering needs, and gets the mail
 in the right mailboxes without the need of a mail client to
 do it. 

Very interesting and cool.   

This is why I ask questions that have seemingly simple answers on this
board.  So much knowledge and experience and everyone does things a bit
differently. 

Thanks for the reply !

LG

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Re: Claws versus Evolution for email.

On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 16:29 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
 (1) Structured email.
 
  If you receive (or send) structured email -
  bullet lists, tables,  highlights etc ... you may prefer
  something which supports structure (like thunderbird, evolution).
 
  If you seldom receive or send structured content then you
  may not need html support (like on this mailing list). 

I generally avoid it, but sometimes I do use html formatted emails.
Like when I need to send a long weblink and I know the recipient isn't
very computer literate.

Does claws have an html email editor for composing such an email ?

Thanks

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Re: OT: one huge monitor or 2 smaller or bigger ones ? SOLVED.

I figured out what I am going to do.

I like the idea of having a huge monitor, ie the U2711 or the U3011
because of their pixel area.  2560 x 1440 and 2560 x 1600 respectively
ON ONE SCREEN.   

I do a lot of photo editing and a screen that size would allow me to
view images in a large way and still have room for editing tools around
them.  I find the 1680x1050 area on my 20 inch monitors limiting in this
respect.

However, I don't want to lose the handiness of dual monitor
functionality.  Its really nice that in KDE each monitor acts as its own
desktop.   I always have things running in my second monitor and its
extremely handy to have something open in a side monitor while working
on something in the main monitor, especially when cutting and pasting
between applications.

However, the U2711 and the U3011 are too large to have 2 such monitors
side by side.  The 2711 is about 25 inches wide and the 3011 is 27.5
inches wide.  My desk isn't wide enough to have 2 such monitors,
especially when I like one monitor to be directly in front of me and the
other monitor to be to the left, angled inward.

So... what I decided is to use one huge monitor for my main display and
a second, smaller monitor beside it, operating in a portrait
orientation.  

The U3011 is 2560x1600.  I already have a 20 Dell that is 1680x1050 and
nearly as wide as the U3011 is high.  

If I rotate the 20 inch monitor to portrait orientation, I get 1050 x
1680, the length of which nicely matches the U3011's height ( ie 1680
pixels high versus 1600 pixels high) and the pixel pitch is pretty
similar as well.

The other nice issue about having the side monitor in portrait mode is
that the applications I run on the side (text editors, email clients and
word processors) make better use of portrait orientation than they do
landscape orientation.   

Thus the two monitors combined will give me 3610 x ~ 1600 pixels.

The Linux code to do this is here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=976120

I'll put my order in for the U3011 tomorrow.

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Re: OT: one huge monitor or 2 smaller or bigger ones ? SOLVED ?

On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 07:46 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 04/03/2011 07:25 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
  I do a lot of photo editing and a screen that size would allow me to
  view images in a large way and still have room for editing tools around
  them.  I find the 1680x1050 area on my 20 inch monitors limiting in this
  respect.
 
 Normally, I don't see the point of having multiple monitors in Linux 
 because so much of what you need them for can be done with multiple 
 desktops on one screen.  However, I can see where this is a special 
 case, especially if you need to have two photos visible at the same time 
 for comparison or copy/paste work. 

I actually think that would be handled OK on one 2560 x 1600 monitor.
For me the biggest downfall of what I have now is that images viewed in
portrait mode in Digikam are pretty small.   Part of that problem is
that my 20 monitors are only 1050 pixels high.  Take off 400 pixels for
for upper and lower stuff bordering the image and you are left with 600
pixels or about 5 inches high on my displays and only a few inches wide.
(Maybe 6x4...)   The image size will just about double on a 30 2560 x
1600 monitor.  Not so much on the 2560 x 1440, but it will be better.

  It seems to me, however, that the 
 most cost effective way to get what you need is to buy a bigger desk 
 that will accommodate two of the U2711 or U3011 units side by side.  

My desk is wide enough to fit both, but I'll need to view one monitor
directly in front of me and have another to the side.   That puts my
chair well off to one side and that is where the issues start.

I was also thinking 2 U2711s would be overkill.  Not sure why... just
strikes me as being excessive.   But I thought that too when I set up 2
20 monitors... h...

 Of 
 course, you may not have room for a bigger desk, but IMO it's worth 
 considering.

Very interesting.

I guess I need to give this more thought.  I am spending way too much
time on this !


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Re: OT: one huge monitor or 2 smaller or bigger ones ? SOLVED.

On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 10:52 -0700, suvayu ali wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:
  The Linux code to do this is here:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=976120
 
  You should be able to do this without hacking config files, at least
  providing your X server supports RandR as the recent ones do.
 
 
 To add ... AKAIK the newer display configuration tools are capable of
 configuring this rather easily.

Its not as simple as it first appears... I'll post a question on this in
a new thread in a bit.

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Re: OT: one huge monitor or 2 smaller or bigger ones ? SOLVED.

On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 02:21 +0930, Tim wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 07:46 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
  Normally, I don't see the point of having multiple monitors in Linux 
  because so much of what you need them for can be done with multiple 
  desktops on one screen. 

Have you tried using a dual monitor setup.  I find it indispensable.
Right now I am typing an email in my left display while watching a
download in the right one.  Its not the same as having both windows in
one display, its better.  For one thing, you never have to worry about a
window in one display covering up a window in the other display, even if
the other app does funny things with the focus.

  However, I can see where this is a special 
  case, especially if you need to have two photos visible at the same
  time for comparison or copy/paste work.
 
 Copy and paste could be useful, but comparison of two pictures on two
 displays has this problem:  If the displays are not producing an
 identical response, and they won't be, you may produce errors in your
 picture when your using one monitor and tweaking it against the picture
 on the other. 

I fully agree with this.  Comparing tweaked photos, especially for
things like white balance, has to be done on the same monitor.  And its
really handy if they are immediately side by side or if the same areas
can be blown up and moved simultaneously.   Digikam has a great tool for
doing this. 


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Paperless office... document management ? (High speed scanner)

2011-04-01 Thread Linuxguy123

So... our home office is growing and we are getting swamped by paper.
Invoices, receipts, billing records, printed correspondence, etc.

We are thinking of buying a high speed multi purpose
printer/scanner/copier/fax machine, specifically the Dell 3335DN.  One
of its selling features is the ability to scan a stack of paper (via its
paper feeder) into jpeg or pdf format at speeds up to 25 pages per
minute.

While scanning most of the paper in our office will eliminate the
physical paper, how do we manage the documents once they are on a
computer ?

At the very least we need a way to search the generated documents by one
or more keywords.  Thus far, the best solution I have come up with is to
put together a small database program using Open Office, like this: 

http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/tutorials/openoffice-org-base-no-frills-document-management/

However, it would be really nice to take it a step further and tie a
ToDo list and scheduler into the system and maybe even an accounting
system.  Ie, we scan a receipt into the system and then enter the
accounting transaction for the receipt and tie the two together.  Or
create a ToDo item with a link to the image of the document that needs
to be handled.

Has anyone done anything like this ?  How should we proceed ?

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OT: one huge monitor or 2 smaller or bigger ones ?

2011-04-01 Thread Linuxguy123

I run F14 KDE for a variety of tasks including writing documents,
managing email, browsing, purchasing, research, some software
development, simple administration, etc.  I'm not a gamer.

I presently have 2 20 monitors on my desktop, each at 1680x1050, for a
total area of 3360x1050.  My computer has a GeForce 8800M GTS video
processor.  

For the most part it works fairly well, especially in KDE, with the way
it allows each monitor to be its own work space.

It has come to my attention that we have a surplus in our technology
fund.
  
If you were in my position, which monitor configuration would you
select ?

a) Stay with the 2 monitors I have. (2x 20 inch, 3360x1050 total area,
cost, $0)

b) Upgrade to 2 24 inch 1920x1200 monitors, like the Dell U2410 or
similar. (3840x1200, cost about $850)

c) Upgrade to 1 27 inch monitor, like the Dell U2711.  (2560x1440, cost
about $850)

d) Upgrade to 2 27 inch monitors, like the Dell U2711.  (5120x1140, cost
about $1700)

e) Upgrade to 1 30 inch monitor, like the Dell U3011.  1560x1600, cost
$1300)

How does one find out the pixel limit of a video card ?

Thanks



 

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Re: OT: one huge monitor or 2 smaller or bigger ones ?

2011-04-01 Thread Linuxguy123

On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 17:38 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote:
 On 04/01/2011 05:16 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 
  e) Upgrade to 1 30 inch monitor, like the Dell U3011.  [2]560x1600, cost
  $1300)
 
 That's what I do.  Good for photo editing too.
 
 Whatever you choose, make sure it's an IPS monitor.

OK.

  How does one find out the pixel limit of a video card ?
 
 The DVI interface maxes out at 2098 × 1311.  To do better than that,
 i.e. to drive the Big Dell, you need a dual link DVI video card.

I had no idea about that.  Thanks for sharing.  How does this limitation
come about ?

My current machine has a HDMI port and a VGA port... 

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Unity on Fedora ?

2011-03-31 Thread Linuxguy123

Any chance that the Ubuntu Unity project will be ported to Fedora ?

I want to run it on a tablet.

Thanks

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Re: Unity on Fedora ?

2011-03-31 Thread Linuxguy123

On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 09:32 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 Any chance that the Ubuntu Unity project will be ported to Fedora ?
 
 I want to run it on a tablet.
 
 Thanks

A bit of obscure googling got me the blog of one Adam W, who appears to
have it mostly working, as per his blog.


There’s some good news regarding Unity, though; the change to glew that
I was waiting for arrived upstream, and ajax kindly let me patch it into
the Fedora package, so once that update goes to stable, that roadblock
is gone, and I can build nux, the last underpinning for the Unity stuff
that I was waiting to get into place. Then I think I can actually build
the Unity compiz plugin (which is all Unity really is, ultimately) and
see if it flies. So that may actually go somewhere. Still no promises,
though! Stay tuned.
===

http://www.happyassassin.net/2011/03/28/fedora-15-status-and-so-on/

I've emailed him to ask for a more current status update.

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Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Linuxguy123

On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 15:20 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
 What is the commercial reason to do this then? I understand what -you-
 want - but redhat needs to have a business reason to leverage this -
 like RHEL derives from fedora ...
 
   Unless there's a rational business plan it makes no sense to sponsor
 this ... think like a businessperson ... 

Well... given the demise of Meego, more or less, and the pending demise
of Symbian and the fact that Nokia just signed a deal with the software
devil to use Windows on their handsets, I think there is a huge
opportunity for Redhat to go after the mobile device market.  Just look
at the success of Android.   A lot of players in the mobile market would
love to partner with someone other than Google.

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Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Linuxguy123

On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 14:35 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
  Okay, so you know that ARM is a secondary ARCH in Fedora. You're just
  wanting someone with a bit of spare money (quite a bit, really) to
  start making hardware with Fedora pre-installed.
 
 Not exactly. Re-read what I said. Fedora should test and build  Fedora
 based firmware images that can be downloaded and flashed  by users on
 popular ARM based tablets.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F13-ARM-Beta1 by non
other than Redhats Rex Dieter.

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Ubuntu Was Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Linuxguy123

Ubuntu does ARM right now.

Ubuntu has a netbook version.

Ubuntu has Unity.

http://www.canonical.com/engineering-services/oem-services/why-ubuntu/products

If Redhat isn't going to cater to this market, I have a feeling someone
else will.

Its great that Redhat focuses on its markets, but I think they have
been/ are a little too one dimensional.

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F14 on a Dell Inspiron Duo (N550, flip touchscreen, tablet/laptop)

2011-03-27 Thread Linuxguy123

Will F14 run on this and support the touchscreen ?

http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/inspiron-duo/pd

http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/30/dell-inspiron-duo-review/

This guy is running Ubuntu 10.10 on it.  I don't recognize the UI.  I'm
a KDE guy.   I like how it zooms in as a touchscreen. and I like the pop
up touch keyboard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGlPvnW6mgU

Will Fedora do all this as well as Ubuntu ?

Thanks !




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Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-25 Thread Linuxguy123

On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 10:06 +0100, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
 Hey Guys,
 
 I think we have a bunch of opportunity. We have free different UI's,
 we had once the OpenMoko (and the full documentation still exists) -
 and even we could try to run a full gnome 3 on mobile UI. After I have
 seen many things, including Motorola's Atrix, and the MoDu (modular
 phone leading by an engineer from Sandisk), and even low power
 consuming modular  ARM based servers, I don't understand why don't
 have Red Hat support to MIPS, ARM platforms.
 
 The most of the new generation phones are mostly becoming an tiny
 universal server (with multiple cores) in the pocket digged deeply
 into the cloud services. This it what we have to follow, and I think
 we fedorians  have several advantage already. We have an company
 behind who are pro in between servers, and cloud and virtualisation,
 right? Imagene this on mobile platform Take out your phone from
 your pocket, and you could set up immediatelly an servers chained up
 in network, and works as router, firewall, samba share and more

I am a huge, huge fan of something Fedora-esque on mobile devices.  I
love the vision you are presenting.

I'd love to see some sort of convergence of Meego with Fedora.

Redhat might have $1B in revenue, but I think they are missing something
equally large in the mobile device market.  I'm not sure how they would
harness the revenue stream, but given what Nokia is paying M$oft for
whatever they call their mobile operating system, I'm sure its possible
to do. 

FWIW, I own an N900.  I bought it expecting it would one day run Meego.

LG

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Re: F14 vlc update problem.

2011-03-25 Thread Linuxguy123

On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 15:09 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
snip

I'm happy to report that this problem now appears to be solved.

# yum update
Loaded plugins: changelog, downloadonly, kmdl, refresh-packagekit
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package directfb.i686 0:1.4.11-3.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package kbackup.i686 0:0.7.1-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package libcgroup.i686 0:0.36.2-6.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package rawstudio.i686 0:1.2-10.fc14.20110226svn3835 set to be
updated
--- Package vlc.i686 0:1.1.8-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package vlc-core.i686 0:1.1.8-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package vlc-devel.i686 0:1.1.8-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package vlc-extras.i686 0:1.1.8-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package vlc-plugin-jack.i686 0:1.1.8-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package xine-lib.i686 0:1.1.19-2.fc14.2 set to be updated
--- Package xine-lib-extras.i686 0:1.1.19-2.fc14.2 set to be updated
-- Finished Dependency Resolution
DEBUG: 
[]

Dependencies Resolved

=
 Package  Arch
VersionRepository
Size
=
Updating:
 directfb i686
1.4.11-3.fc14  updates
1.2 M
 kbackup  i686
0.7.1-1.fc14   updates
555 k
 libcgroupi686
0.36.2-6.fc14  updates
92 k
 rawstudioi686
1.2-10.fc14.20110226svn3835updates
770 k
 vlc  i686
1.1.8-1.fc14
rpmfusion-free-updates  1.9 M
 vlc-core i686
1.1.8-1.fc14
rpmfusion-free-updates  7.8 M
 vlc-develi686
1.1.8-1.fc14
rpmfusion-free-updates  161 k
 vlc-extras   i686
1.1.8-1.fc14
rpmfusion-free-updates   47 k
 vlc-plugin-jack  i686
1.1.8-1.fc14
rpmfusion-free-updates   45 k
 xine-lib i686
1.1.19-2.fc14.2updates
2.3 M
 xine-lib-extras  i686
1.1.19-2.fc14.2updates
70 k

Transaction
Summary 

 
=
Upgrade  11 Package(s)

Total download size: 15 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y   
Downloading Packages:
(1/11): directfb-1.4.11-3.fc14.i686.rpm
| 1.2 MB 00:03 
(2/11): kbackup-0.7.1-1.fc14.i686.rpm
| 555 kB 00:01 
(3/11): libcgroup-0.36.2-6.fc14.i686.rpm
|  92 kB 00:00 
(4/11): rawstudio-1.2-10.fc14.20110226svn3835.i686.rpm
| 770 kB 00:01 
(5/11): vlc-1.1.8-1.fc14.i686.rpm
| 1.9 MB 00:02 
(6/11): vlc-core-1.1.8-1.fc14.i686.rpm
| 7.8 MB 00:08 
(7/11): vlc-devel-1.1.8-1.fc14.i686.rpm
| 161 kB 00:00 
(8/11): vlc-extras-1.1.8-1.fc14.i686.rpm
|  47 kB 00:00 
(9/11): vlc-plugin-jack-1.1.8-1.fc14.i686.rpm
|  45 kB 00:00 
(10/11): xine-lib-1.1.19-2.fc14.2.i686.rpm
| 2.3 MB 00:02 
(11/11): xine-lib-extras-1.1.19-2.fc14.2.i686.rpm
|  70 kB 00:00 
-
Total
666 kB/s |  15 MB 00:22 
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
  Updating   : vlc-core-1.1.8-1.fc14.i686
1/22 
  Updating   : directfb-1.4.11-3.fc14.i686
2/22 
  Updating   : xine-lib-1.1.19-2.fc14.2.i686
3/22 
  Updating   : xine-lib-extras-1.1.19-2.fc14.2.i686
4/22 
  Updating   : vlc-extras-1.1.8-1.fc14.i686
5/22 
  Updating   : vlc-plugin-jack-1.1.8-1.fc14.i686
6/22 
  Updating   : vlc-1.1.8-1.fc14.i686
7/22 
  Updating   : rawstudio-1.2-10.fc14.20110226svn3835.i686
8/22 
  Updating   : kbackup-0.7.1-1.fc14.i686
9/22 
  Updating   : libcgroup-0.36.2-6.fc14.i686
10/22 
  Updating   : vlc-devel-1.1.8-1.fc14.i686
11/22 
  Cleanup: xine-lib-extras-1.1.19-2.fc14.1.i686
12/22 
  Cleanup:

F14 vlc update problem.

2011-03-24 Thread Linuxguy123

F14, fully up to date before this.
vlc installed.

# yum update
Loaded plugins: changelog, downloadonly, kmdl, refresh-packagekit
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
-- Processing Dependency: libdirect-1.4.so.0 for package:
vlc-extras-1.1.7-1.fc14.i686
-- Processing Dependency: libdirectfb-1.4.so.0 for package:
vlc-extras-1.1.7-1.fc14.i686
-- Processing Dependency: libfusion-1.4.so.0 for package:
vlc-extras-1.1.7-1.fc14.i686
--- Package directfb.i686 0:1.4.11-3.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package gnome-python2-extras.i686 0:2.25.3-29.fc14.1 set to be
updated
--- Package gnome-python2-gtkhtml2.i686 0:2.25.3-29.fc14.1 set to be
updated
--- Package gnome-python2-libegg.i686 0:2.25.3-29.fc14.1 set to be
updated
--- Package libgadu.i686 0:1.10.1-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package libgnome-keyring.i686 0:2.32.0-2.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package libgnome-keyring-devel.i686 0:2.32.0-2.fc14 set to be
updated
--- Package libv4l.i686 0:0.8.3-2.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package tcl.i686 1:8.5.9-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package tk.i686 1:8.5.9-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package xine-lib.i686 0:1.1.19-2.fc14.2 set to be updated
--- Package xine-lib-extras.i686 0:1.1.19-2.fc14.2 set to be updated
--- Package xulrunner.i686 0:1.9.2.16-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package xulrunner-devel.i686 0:1.9.2.16-1.fc14 set to be updated
-- Finished Dependency Resolution
DEBUG: 
[]
Error: Package: vlc-extras-1.1.7-1.fc14.i686 (@rpmfusion-free-updates)
   Requires: libfusion-1.4.so.0
   Removing: directfb-1.4.11-2.fc14.i686 (@updates)
   libfusion-1.4.so.0
   Updated By: directfb-1.4.11-3.fc14.i686 (updates)
   Not found
   Available: directfb-1.4.3-1.fc14.i686 (fedora)
   libfusion-1.4.so.0
Error: Package: vlc-extras-1.1.7-1.fc14.i686 (@rpmfusion-free-updates)
   Requires: libdirect-1.4.so.0
   Removing: directfb-1.4.11-2.fc14.i686 (@updates)
   libdirect-1.4.so.0
   Updated By: directfb-1.4.11-3.fc14.i686 (updates)
   Not
found   

  
   Available: directfb-1.4.3-1.fc14.i686 (fedora)
   libdirect-1.4.so.0
Error: Package: vlc-extras-1.1.7-1.fc14.i686 (@rpmfusion-free-updates)
   Requires: libdirectfb-1.4.so.0
   Removing: directfb-1.4.11-2.fc14.i686 (@updates)
   libdirectfb-1.4.so.0
   Updated By: directfb-1.4.11-3.fc14.i686 (updates)
   Not found
   Available: directfb-1.4.3-1.fc14.i686 (fedora)
   libdirectfb-1.4.so.0
 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
 You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest


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Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-24 Thread Linuxguy123

On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 19:55 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
 I really, really would like to see RedHat putting some effort into
 seeing Fedora running on modern tablets...

+1 on this.   Especially now that I have lost all confidence in Meego
and Google seems to share less and less of Android.

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Re: F14 vlc update problem.

2011-03-24 Thread Linuxguy123

On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 23:47 -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
snip

I appreciate the discussion on this situation.  I really didn't mean to
stir up the hornet's nest on this.

The good news is that a) yum works incredibly well at sorting out the
situation and allows everything else to update in spite of the vlc issue
and b) vlc still works.

We don't live in a perfect Linux world, but its still a very good one.


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Remi repo ? Was Re: Firefox 4 RC1 Remi repo

2011-03-15 Thread Linuxguy123

On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 08:00 -0500, Jim Philips wrote:
 I can't manage to update to RC1. When I try, yum tells me it depends
 on gecko-libs 2.0 RC1 and that package is not available. Anyone
 successfully update from the Remi repo?

I'm looking for a repository that has the latest Firefox builds.

Where is the Remi repo ?

Thanks !


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Re: Remi repo ? Was Re: Firefox 4 RC1 Remi repo

2011-03-15 Thread Linuxguy123

On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 10:52 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 08:00 -0500, Jim Philips wrote:
  I can't manage to update to RC1. When I try, yum tells me it depends
  on gecko-libs 2.0 RC1 and that package is not available. Anyone
  successfully update from the Remi repo?
 
 I'm looking for a repository that has the latest Firefox builds.
 
 Where is the Remi repo ?

From what I am reading, the Remi repo is only for F12 and F13.

My problem is that spot repo, for F14, hasn't been updated past b11.
http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/firefox4/fedora-firefox4.repo 

Am I missing something ?

Where would I find firefox-rc1 for F14 ?

Thanks

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Re: Remi repo ? Was Re: Firefox 4 RC1 Remi repo

2011-03-15 Thread Linuxguy123

On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 11:18 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 11:08 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 
   I'm looking for a repository that has the latest Firefox builds.
   
   Where is the Remi repo ?
  
  From what I am reading, the Remi repo is only for F12 and F13.
 
 The Remi Collet repo is here:
 http://rpms.famillecollet.com

Thank you.  That worked very well.

 It most definitely DOES include support for F14.

Several web pages say it does not.  Search remi firefox4 and you'll
see what I mean.

This one, for example.
digitizor.com/2010/08/27/install-firefox-4-fedora/


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Getting a USB driver added for a device ? (Hitec HPP-22, wine, USB, RC)

2011-03-11 Thread Linuxguy123

I use the Hitec Aurora 9 (A9) transmitter for my remote control
vehicles.

http://www.hitecrcd.com/products/aircraft-radios-receivers-and-accesories/aircraft/aurora9/aurora-9-2-4ghz.html

This transmitter is part of a system of devices.   One of the devices in
this system is the HPP-22, which is a USB device that allows a computer
to communicate with the A9 in order to load and save model information
as well as update the firmware in the transmitter and receivers.

http://www.hitecrcd.com/products/aircraft-radios-receivers-and-accesories/telemetry/hpp-22.html

Hitec publishes closed source Windows based software to enable a Windows
computer to communicate with the HPP-22.

http://hitecrcd.co.kr/tester/hpp_22.htm

After renaming the install file from Install_hpp_22_V1.04(1).exe to
Install_hpp_22_V1.04.exe in Dolphin, wine runs the installer just
fine, albeit with a few warning messages.   

Note: Bash doesn't allow () characters.  Doing a right click on the file
name in Dolphin allowed me to change it.   In hindsight this could have
been corrected when downloading the install fall. 

When I run the resulting HPP-22 program, it displays HPP-22 is
disconnected.  Ie its not finding the HPP-22 hardware connected to the
PC via a USB cable.

dmesg states the following:
==
[263071.342137] usb 6-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 4
[263071.514255] usb 6-1: New USB device found, idVendor=1e1a,
idProduct=001f
[263071.514266] usb 6-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
SerialNumber=3
[263071.514273] usb 6-1: Product: HPP-22
[263071.514278] usb 6-1: Manufacturer: HITECRCD Inc
[263071.514283] usb 6-1: SerialNumber:   HPP-22-0
[263071.524680] generic-usb 0003:1E1A:001F.0005: hiddev97,hidraw2: USB
HID v0.01 Device [HITECRCD Inc HPP-22] on usb-:00:1d.1-1/input0
===

lsusb returns this:
==
$ lsusb
Bus 007 Device 002: ID 046d:c521 Logitech, Inc. Cordless Mouse Receiver
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 004: ID 1e1a:001f  
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Wireless (Bluetooth +
WLAN) Interface [Integrated Module]
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 08ff:2580 AuthenTec, Inc. AES2501 Fingerprint
Sensor
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. Acer CrystalEye Webcam
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 07ca:a321 AVerMedia Technologies, Inc. 
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
===

At this point I have been advised that the proper USB driver has not
been installed for the HPP-22 device.   Who should I talk to to get this
done or get help to do it myself ?

Thanks !

LG123

Other information

I'm running a fully up to date Fedora 14 system.

$ yum list wine
Installed Packages
wine.i686
1.3.14-2.fc14
@updates

$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE #1 SMP Mon Feb 7
06:57:55 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

$ yum list udev
Installed Packages
udev.i686
161-8.fc14
@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201010211814.i38

usbview returns the following (and indicates that a driver is attached
to the HPP22 device)

HPP-22
Manufacturer: HITECRCD Inc
Serial Number:   HPP-22-0
Speed: 12Mb/s (full)
USB Version:  2.00
Device Class: 00(ifc )
Device Subclass: 00
Device Protocol: 00
Maximum Default Endpoint Size: 8
Number of Configurations: 1
Vendor Id: 1e1a
Product Id: 001f
Revision Number:  0.01

Config Number: 1
Number of Interfaces: 1
Attributes: 80
MaxPower Needed: 100mA

Interface Number: 0
Name: usbhid
Alternate Number: 0
Class: 03(HID  ) 
Sub Class: 00
Protocol: 00
Number of Endpoints: 2

Endpoint Address: 81
Direction: in
Attribute: 3
Type: Int.
Max Packet Size: 64
Interval: 10ms

Endpoint Address: 01
Direction: out
Attribute: 3
Type: Int.
Max Packet Size: 64
Interval: 10ms

usbmon does not indicate any activity whatsoever on the bus the HPP-22
is connected to.  My guess is that the HPP-22 software is not finding
the HPP-22 hardware and is thus not attempting to talk to it.




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Re: Firefox 4 betas ?

2011-03-09 Thread Linuxguy123

On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 18:10 +0100, Remi Collet wrote:
 There is (at least) 2 repo which provides firefox4 RPM (which can be
 installed beside firefox 3.6)
 
 http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/firefox4/ 

Any idea when this repository is going to be updated to beta 12 ?   Its
currently got beta 11.

Thanks !

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Firefox 4 betas ?

2011-03-04 Thread Linuxguy123

Anyone running them ?  How are they ?

Is there a way to run both Firefox 3.6.x and the Firefox 4 beta without
messing things up ?

Thanks 

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Re: Firefox 4 betas ?

2011-03-04 Thread Linuxguy123

On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 18:10 +0100, Remi Collet wrote:
 There is (at least) 2 repo which provides firefox4 RPM (which can be
 installed beside firefox 3.6)
 
 http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/firefox4/ 

Very sweet tip, Remi.   

I copied the repo file into /etc/yum.repos.d/

I ran yum install firefox4 and it installed and now I'm running it.

It couldn't be easier than that.

Fedora rocks !

Thanks for sharing, greatly appreciated !


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Re: Extremely slow web page loading to only 1 site ?

2011-02-09 Thread Linuxguy123

On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 11:25 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
 Bruno Wolff III wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 08:21:33 +0800,
Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:

  In the back of my mind, from a few years ago, I remember there an issue
  with the linux TCP/IP stack and some mis-configured routers.  I need
  to get some coffee and hopefully my brain will get in gear
  
 
  I believe that was ECN. (A way to signal congestion without throwing away
  packects.)
 
  There have also been problems with MTU discovery because people block ICMP
  packets indiscrimiantly.
 

 That is starting to stir the synapse
 
 The problem is related to what is in the syn, ack packet coming from
 12.17.249.39.  In the TCP Options it is sending Window scale: 0
 (multiply by 1).  I think this is causing problems since later packets
 have the TCP data segment being only 92 bytes from 12.17.249.39.
 
 While the same info is in the syn, ack the RHELv4 system seems to deal
 with it OK and the TCP data segments from 12.17.249.39 are 1460 bytes.
 
 The problem can be fixed by
 
 echo 0  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling
 
 Now, while this fixes the problem for this site it may cause performance
 issues with other sites.  I don't know at this point and my head hurts. 
 :-)  It is hurting since my RHELv4 system has tcp_window_scaling set to
 1 and it seems to deal with it.
 
 Note: Make sure you issue the echo above after some quite time.  The
 connection must first be rst (reset) before the sides will renegotiate
 the TCP/IP settings.  (That too caused me some grief.)
 
 I'll bugzilla it

What became of the fix for this issue ?

The reason I ask is because I'm now running Fedora 14 and a) I still
have the problem and b) about every 3 days I have to edit the
tcp_window_scaling file and reset the scaling entry to zero.   Something
over writes it back to true.

Thanks !

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What is up with the libdvd* packages ?

2011-01-27 Thread Linuxguy123

Why aren't these packages from F14 ?

yum list libdvd\*
Loaded plugins: changelog, downloadonly, kmdl, refresh-packagekit

Installed Packages
libdvdcss.i386  1.2.10-1
installed  
libdvdnav.i686  4.1.4-0.1.svn1184.fc12
@fedora/12 
libdvdread.i686 4.1.4-0.2.svn1188.fc13
@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386/13


Available Packages
libdvdnav-devel.i6864.1.4-0.1.svn1184.fc12
fedora 
libdvdread-devel.i686   4.1.4-0.2.svn1188.fc13
fedora  

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Re: What is up with the libdvd* packages ?

2011-01-27 Thread Linuxguy123

On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 17:12 -0800, Konstantin Svist wrote:
 On 01/27/2011 05:04 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
  Why aren't these packages from F14 ?
 
  yum list libdvd\*
  Loaded plugins: changelog, downloadonly, kmdl, refresh-packagekit
 
  Installed Packages
  libdvdcss.i386  1.2.10-1
  installed
  libdvdnav.i686  4.1.4-0.1.svn1184.fc12
  @fedora/12
  libdvdread.i686 4.1.4-0.2.svn1188.fc13
  @anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386/13
 
 
  Available Packages
  libdvdnav-devel.i6864.1.4-0.1.svn1184.fc12
  fedora
  libdvdread-devel.i686   4.1.4-0.2.svn1188.fc13
  fedora
 
 
 Probably because they haven't needed recompilation since then -- if the 
 binaries are exactly the same, why make everyone re-download them on 
 upgrade?

OK  Thanks




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Re: HELP!!! I Borked Java...

2011-01-25 Thread Linuxguy123

On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 20:29 -0700, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
 
 OK - I found a way to get the java plugin working. Instructions at:
 
 http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f14.html
 
 Provided a workable solution. So for now I have reinstalled Sun Java
 based on these instructions and it appears to be working. 

I borked my Java and this was extremely helpful. 

Thank you.   Here is your hero cookie.   Enjoy.

LG

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Can't permanently disable SELinux warning for Wine.

2011-01-25 Thread Linuxguy123

I am running a flight simulator under Wine.

Everything works OK, except that SELinux detects a problem when it
starts up.

==
The source process: /usr/bin/wine-preloader
Attempted this access: nmap_zero
On this memprotect: nothing
==

OK.

I'd like to disable this warning.  In the SELinux Alert Browser, it
tells me to

===

You must tell SELinux about this by enabling the wine_mmap_zero_ignore
boolean.
# setsebool -P wine_mmap_zero_ignore 1

==

That is all well and good, but when I issue the command (as root), it
hangs.  Only Ctrl C will terminate the command.

However, if I omit the -P, it works.   However, I have to rerun it all
the time.

Why does the command hang ?

Thanks !

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Solved, sort of. Was my wireless connection quit. (F14/ 2.6.35/ Intel 4965 )

2011-01-21 Thread Linuxguy123

I solved it, mostly. My problem had several causes.

1) Somehow the router I thought I was using became disconnected.  Thus
it wasn't available to connect to.

2) When I looked closely, Windows computers were connecting to a
different router, not the one I thought.  Note to self, more descriptive
router SSIDs !

3) the KDE network manager plasmoid I had installed was from KDE-testing
and hadn't been upgraded since November ish.

4) the KDE network manager plasmoid wasn't showing networks that
required security or at all.  Not sure what was happening here.

I solved it with the following steps.

1) I traced the router problem until I encountered the unplugged device.
Then the Windows computers could see the network I was after and connect
to it. 

2) I turned off network management for my wireless device.  Configured
it manually.   This got things working, though apps like Evolution and
Firefox wouldn't work because they expect a network manager managed
connection and I didn't have one.  However, I did have access to yum.

3) I removed the kde networkwork management plasmoid

4) I removed NetworkManager.

5) I rebooted.   Now I had a wireless network connection and Evolution
and Firefox worked correctly.

I'll leave things set up like this for now.  In the future I'll set up a
network management system again, because its very handy when it works. 

I hope this helps someone. 

Thanks.


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Receipt scanning and data storage

2011-01-11 Thread Linuxguy123

The management of receipts for purchases has become overwhelming here.

I would like to get a receipt scanner and scan all my receipts and
destroy the paper copies.

I would like to store and be able to retrieve data about the individual
scans, such as scan date, entity, etc.  It would be really nice if that
was tied into an accounting system of some sort. 

Does anyone know of a Linux app that does this ?

Thanks !

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Printable calendars and schedules ?

2011-01-07 Thread Linuxguy123

I need to develop a schedule for a couple parties.

In the past we did it manually on a paper calendar.

I'd like to do it with a piece of software such that we can print out a
calendar with activities on it.   Some of the people involved run
Windows.

Any ideas ?

Thanks

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OT: Network storage device with USB access ?

2010-12-10 Thread Linuxguy123

Does anyone know of a network storage device that also has a USB port
such that it looks like a USB hard drive to a local computer ?   

I'm not looking for a NS device that allows one to connect a USB hard
drive.  I'm looking for a network storage device that looks like a USB
hard drive to a local computer.

Thanks

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My F13-F14 upgrade was easiest and best ever.

2010-12-08 Thread Linuxguy123

I'd like to give a shout out to the developers for their work.   My
upgrade last night from F13 to F14 was the best and easiest Fedora
upgrade I have ever done.  (And I've been at this since Redhat 8 !)

I ran preupgrade and let it do its thing.   When it asked me to, I
rebooted.

For some reason the new session didn't have a working wifi connection.
I checked the network settings and rebooted again, just in case.  The
next session did have a working wifi connection.  

I then ran yum update, which completed without any issues.   Then I
rebooted and I've been up on that session ever since.

Whoever developed preupgrade deserves a hero cookie, because it is the
slickest upgrade process I have ever used. (And I've been at this since
the early DOS days.)  

Back in the Fedora CORE 4(?) days when we used to manually edit the repo
files and then run an update and hope for the best.  This is so much
better !

F14 seems very stable, a bit more polished and a bit faster.  Every
version is a step ahead now.  Its great.

Anyway... I'm rambling.   Thanks for the great work. 

LG

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Re: Fedora on a Viewsonic G Tablet

2010-12-08 Thread Linuxguy123

On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 10:58 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 I'm in dire need of a tablet and I want it to run Linux, preferably
 Fedora.
 
 I'm considering a Viewsonic G tablet as reviewed here:
 http://www.linuxslate.org/Review_Viewsonic_G-Tablet_Android_Tablet.html
 
 Does anyone know of anyone running Fedora on this device ?
 
 Does anyone know of any show stoppers to do so ?

Nobody has any comments on this ?

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Fedora on a Viewsonic G Tablet

2010-12-07 Thread Linuxguy123

I'm in dire need of a tablet and I want it to run Linux, preferably
Fedora.

I'm considering a Viewsonic G tablet as reviewed here:
http://www.linuxslate.org/Review_Viewsonic_G-Tablet_Android_Tablet.html

Does anyone know of anyone running Fedora on this device ?

Does anyone know of any show stoppers to do so ?

Thanks

LG



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Why is the alpha version of rawtherapee in the updates repository ?????

2010-12-01 Thread Linuxguy123

yum list rawtherapee
Available Packages  rawtherapee.i686 3.0-0.21.a1.fc13  updates

However, the rawtherapee wiki says this:

3.0 series
This new series is now on the development cycle. Preview version 3.0
alpha 1 is available for download, but is not recommended for
end-users.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_Therapee


I tried it on my F13 installation and it barely runs.


Shouldn't the update repository have something stable in it like 2.4.1 ?

Thanks !

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RE: Make a Linux box look/ act like a USB mass storage device ? (VxWorks)

2010-11-28 Thread Linuxguy123

On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 12:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 09:23 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote:
  So... how do I mount a dosfs volume ?  I don't see dosfs as a -t
  parameter in the mount command.  Dosfstools doesn't have a man page.
 
 I'm guessing it's a DOS filesystem, so just try -t msdos or -t vfat.

Others have done so and said it doesn't work.  I don't think the VxWorks
dosfs is compatible with the msdos or vfat filesystem types, but at this
point I am mostly guessing.

I'll have hardware to work with next week.

Is the dosfs toolset compatible with the VxWorks dosfs filesystem or are
they different ?

Thanks

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Make a Linux box look/ act like a USB mass storage device ? (VxWorks)

2010-11-27 Thread Linuxguy123

I have a PVR that puts out data on a USB bus to a mass storage device,
ie hard drive.  The device is formated for VxWorks.

Is there a way to configure a Linux box to capture that data stream ?

Is there a way to read VxWorks hard drives in Linux ?

Thanks

LG

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Re: I need a new linux homepage. Ideas ?

2010-11-12 Thread Linuxguy123

On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 22:31 +1030, Tim wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 23:56 -0600, Manuel Escudero wrote:
  So the Calyphrox Link worked? (What I did was passing the webpage
  trough Calyphrox Webproxy via it's API)
 
 Both ways loaded for me, but then I wasn't the person who couldn't get
 it to load, at all.  It was Linuxguy123 that thought the site was dead.
 I just noticed it doing reload nonsense.
 
 The original poster should probably test their domain name server, or
 pick another one to use.

Thanks for the replies.   The linux homepage at www.linuxhomepage.com is
working again.

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I need a new linux homepage. Ideas ?

2010-11-11 Thread Linuxguy123

It seems as though www.linuxhomepage.com is dead and gone.   I'm looking
for candidates for a new one.  Any ideas ?

Has anyone created an RSS page from the sources on that page ?

Thanks

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What happened to www.linuxhomepage.com ??? Other Linux homepages ?

2010-11-09 Thread Linuxguy123

What happened to www.linuxhomepage.com ?   It looks like the domain
expired ???

Are there any other linux homepages ?

Thanks

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SD card reader not working ????

2010-11-03 Thread Linuxguy123

The SD card reader in my HP laptop has stopped working.  It worked fine
a while ago.

Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter  
Driver: sdhci_pci

# uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.34.7-61.fc13.i686.PAE #1 SMP Tue Oct 19
04:24:06 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

from dmesg:

sdhci: Secure Digital Host Controller Interface driver
sdhci: Copyright(c) Pierre Ossman
sdhci-pci :02:06.1: SDHCI controller found [1180:0822] (rev 22)
sdhci-pci :02:06.1: PCI INT B - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 17
sdhci-pci :02:06.1: Invalid iomem size. You may experience problems.
sdhci-pci :02:06.1: Will use DMA mode even though HW doesn't fully
claim to support it.
sdhci-pci :02:06.1: setting latency timer to 64
Registered led device: mmc0::
mmc0: SDHCI controller on PCI [:02:06.1] using DMA

Ideas ?







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Issues installing streamtuner2...

2010-10-26 Thread Linuxguy123

I'd like to install streamtuner2 on my F13 system.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/streamtuner2/files/

I have 2 problems.

1) It wants pygtk.   My machine appears to have pygtk2 installed.

2) The rpm seems to be setup with architecture as .all.  rpm
wants .i386, .i686, etc.

How do I (easily) resolve these issues ?

Thanks

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Re: F13/F14 on an iPad ?

2010-10-23 Thread Linuxguy123

On Sat, 2010-10-23 at 17:04 +0100, Vaclav Mocek wrote:
 The problem is that ARM is for Fedora the secondary architecture; unless 
 it is changed I don't expect we can use it with some tablets.

F14 is shipping with Meego.  A lot of Meego devices are ARM based.   I
suspect there will be an ARM build, sooner or later.

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Re: OT ? I'm about this close to buying an iPad...

On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 09:06 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 Hi people. 

 I wait, growing more impatient day by day. 
 
 LG

Apparently I am not the only one !

http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/67654


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F13/F14 on an iPad ?

Is anyone running Fedora on an iPad ?   I'm not interested in Android.

Thanks

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Re: F13/F14 on an iPad ?

On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 09:10 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
 You're better off buying a tablet laptop and installing Fedora on
 that. 
 Example:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834110420 

If the iPad is so overpriced, why isn't the market flooded with cheaper
alternatives ?

I think that tablet laptop is over priced. 

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Re: F13/F14 on an iPad ?

On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 10:10 -0600, James Szinger wrote:
 I also agree that attempting
 to install Fedora on an iPad is not a good idea.

And why is that ?  You've heard of Yellow Dog Linux ?  You know that
Meego is being installed on some Android devices and Android has been
installed on the N900 ?  Granted they aren't mainstream, fully
operational, but its early in these efforts.

If nobody else is going to ship a decent tablet, the iPad may be all we
have to work with.   And I don't want to run IOS or whatever its called.

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Re: F13/F14 on an iPad ?

On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 11:16 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 10:10 -0600, James Szinger wrote:
  I also agree that attempting
  to install Fedora on an iPad is not a good idea.
 
 And why is that ?  You've heard of Yellow Dog Linux ?  You know that
 Meego is being installed on some Android devices and Android has been
 installed on the N900 ?  Granted they aren't mainstream, fully
 operational, but its early in these efforts.
 
 If nobody else is going to ship a decent tablet, the iPad may be all we
 have to work with.   And I don't want to run IOS or whatever its called.

Furthermore... F14 is going to ship with Meego 1.0, soon to be 1.x.  Its
designed for tablets and what it doesn't do now, it will do later.


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Bad drive copy ?

2010-10-13 Thread Linuxguy123

I seem to be doing a lot of things with hard drives these days !



I purchased an external 2 TB SATA hard drive.  I connected it to my
laptop via a USB interface.  I partitioned it to 1 large partition and
formatted it to ext4.

I then copied about 200 GB of data to it using Dolphin.  I closed
Dolphin while doing the copy but the process kept running as a kio.  No
errors were reported.

Tonight when I accessed some of the data, I found errors.   The file
sizes read correctly but the data in the files is corrupted.

I ran fsck on the drive.

# umount /dev/sdc1
# fsck /dev/sdc1
fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
e2fsck 1.41.10 (10-Feb-2009)
/dev/sdc1: clean, 128156/122101760 files, 75280327/488378000 blocks

Luckily I still have all the original data, or at least 98% of it.  I
checked the source files and they all read fine.

Why do I have errors in the files I copied ?  Why isn't anything
reporting an error ?   

$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.34.7-56.fc13.i686.PAE #1 SMP Wed Sep 15
03:27:15 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

Is is worth repeating the copy using cp to see if I get the same
results ?

Thanks




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Re: Bad drive copy ?

2010-10-13 Thread Linuxguy123

On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 08:55 -0700, JD wrote:
 On 10/13/2010 07:52 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
  I seem to be doing a lot of things with hard drives these days !
 
 
 
  I purchased an external 2 TB SATA hard drive.  I connected it to my
  laptop via a USB interface.  I partitioned it to 1 large partition and
  formatted it to ext4.
 
  I then copied about 200 GB of data to it using Dolphin.  I closed
  Dolphin while doing the copy but the process kept running as a kio.  No
  errors were reported.
 
  Tonight when I accessed some of the data, I found errors.   The file
  sizes read correctly but the data in the files is corrupted.
 
  I ran fsck on the drive.
 
  # umount /dev/sdc1
  # fsck /dev/sdc1
  fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
  e2fsck 1.41.10 (10-Feb-2009)
  /dev/sdc1: clean, 128156/122101760 files, 75280327/488378000 blocks
 
  Luckily I still have all the original data, or at least 98% of it.  I
  checked the source files and they all read fine.
 
  Why do I have errors in the files I copied ?  Why isn't anything
  reporting an error ?
 
  $ uname -a
  Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.34.7-56.fc13.i686.PAE #1 SMP Wed Sep 15
  03:27:15 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
 
  Is is worth repeating the copy using cp to see if I get the same
  results ?
 
  Thanks
 
 
 
 
 I suspect the cause of your problem might be the USB interface.
 Can you take the drive out of the enclosure and connect it
 directly to sata port and retry?

Yes, I can.  I'll do it when I get time.



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Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?

2010-10-09 Thread Linuxguy123

On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 23:02 +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote:
  I bought a hard drive and wrote a bunch of information to it as an
  external drive only to find that it won't fit in my laptop as an
  internal drive.
 
  How do I absolutely destroy all the data on the drive so that I may
  safely return it to the retailer for a refund ?
 
 I believe the best way is to use Secure Erase which is initiated at
 the HD firmware level via an hdparm command in Linux - this allows the
 erase to be done by the firmware on the drive itself and once
 initiated will prevent access to the drive until it completes.
 
 https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase

Thanks for the reply.

From man hdparm:

 --security-erase PWD
  Erase  (locked)  drive,  using password PWD (DANGEROUS).
Password is given as an ASCII string and is padded
  with NULs to reach 32 bytes.  Use the special password
NULL to represent an empty password.  The  applicable
  drive  password is selected with the --user-master switch.
No other flags are permitted on the command line
  with this one.  THIS FEATURE IS EXPERIMENTAL AND NOT WELL
TESTED. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.


In actual use:

# hdparm --security-erase NULL /dev/sdd
security_password=

/dev/sdd:
 Issuing SECURITY_ERASE command, password=, user=master
ERASE_PREPARE: Invalid exchange

Why 

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Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?

2010-10-09 Thread Linuxguy123

On Sat, 2010-10-09 at 02:27 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:

 
 From man hdparm:
 
  --security-erase PWD
   Erase  (locked)  drive,  using password PWD (DANGEROUS).
 Password is given as an ASCII string and is padded
   with NULs to reach 32 bytes.  Use the special password
 NULL to represent an empty password.  The  applicable
   drive  password is selected with the --user-master switch.
 No other flags are permitted on the command line
   with this one.  THIS FEATURE IS EXPERIMENTAL AND NOT WELL
 TESTED. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.
 
 
 In actual use:
 
 # hdparm --security-erase NULL /dev/sdd
 security_password=
 
 /dev/sdd:
  Issuing SECURITY_ERASE command, password=, user=master
 ERASE_PREPARE: Invalid exchange
 
 Why 

I have this drive connected via a USB adapter.   Would that cause this
problem ?


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Properly wiping a hard drive ?

2010-10-08 Thread Linuxguy123

I bought a hard drive and wrote a bunch of information to it as an
external drive only to find that it won't fit in my laptop as an
internal drive.

How do I absolutely destroy all the data on the drive so that I may
safely return it to the retailer for a refund ?

Thanks 

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Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?

2010-10-08 Thread Linuxguy123

On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 12:39 -0700, James Mckenzie wrote:
 Linux guy:
 
 Ball peen hammer.

Its a new drive.  I'm returning it for a refund.

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Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?

2010-10-08 Thread Linuxguy123

On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 12:41 -0700, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 HI
 
 Try this:
 
 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/wipe/

$ yum list wipe
Loaded plugins: downloadonly, kmdl, refresh-packagekit
Available Packages
wipe.i686
0.21-4.fc12   fedora

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Really excited to see F14 will have Meego ! (car tablet, nav)

2010-10-06 Thread Linuxguy123

Just a quick note to say that I am really excited to see that F14 is
going to include Meego.

Why ?  I want to put a 10 tablet in my car and the Meego UI is much
more suitable than KDE for that application. 

Having both KDE and Meego on my tablet should be the dope.  Use Meego
for everyday (car) usage and KDE for use out of the car and/or
maintenance.  Does it get any better ?

Now if only someone would release a high quality 10 tablet.

And I need Navit or something similar for nav duty... 

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Cant format 1TB USB drive ?


Fully up to date F13 machine won't format a 1 TB hard drive mounted via
a USB adapter.

# fdisk /dev/sdc

WARNING: DOS-compatible mode is deprecated. It's strongly recommended to
 switch off the mode (command 'c') and change display units to
 sectors (command 'u').

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x609682be

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System

Command (m for help): n
Command action
   e   extended
   p   primary partition (1-4)
p
Partition number (1-4): 1
First cylinder (1-121601, default 1): 
Using default value 1
Last cylinder, +cylinders or +size{K,M,G} (1-121601, default 121601): 
Using default value 121601

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x609682be

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdc1   1  121601   976760001   83  Linux

Command (m for help): w
The partition table has been altered!

Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
Syncing disks.

# mkfs -text4 /dev/sdc1
mke2fs 1.41.10 (10-Feb-2009)
Filesystem label=
OS type: Linux
Block size=4096 (log=2)
Fragment size=4096 (log=2)
Stride=0 blocks, Stripe width=0 blocks
61054976 inodes, 24419 blocks
12209500 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
First data block=0
Maximum filesystem blocks=0
7453 block groups
32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group
8192 inodes per group
Superblock backups stored on blocks: 
32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736, 1605632,
2654208, 
4096000, 7962624, 11239424, 2048, 23887872, 71663616,
78675968, 
10240, 214990848

Writing inode tables: done
ext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short
read while creating root dir


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Re: Cant format 1TB USB drive ?

On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 10:23 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
 Linuxguy123 writes:
 
  ext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short
  read while creating root dir
 
 Two possibilities:
 
 1) The drive's partition table is fibbing slightly about the drive's size. 
 Check /var/log/messages when attaching the drive, to see what they say. Try 
 creating a partition one cylinder shorter in size.
 
 2) The drive is a brick.

I kinda doubt its a brick.

I re partitioned it with one less cylinder as follows.

===
# fdisk /dev/sdc

WARNING: DOS-compatible mode is deprecated. It's strongly recommended to
 switch off the mode (command 'c') and change display units to
 sectors (command 'u').

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x609682be

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdc1   1  121601   976760001   83  Linux

Command (m for help): d
Selected partition 1

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x609682be

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System

Command (m for help): w
The partition table has been altered!

Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
Syncing disks.

# fdisk /dev/sdc


WARNING: DOS-compatible mode is deprecated. It's strongly recommended
to
 switch off the mode (command 'c') and change display units to
 sectors (command 'u').

Command (m for help): n
Command action
   e   extended
   p   primary partition (1-4)
p
Partition number (1-4): 1
First cylinder (1-121601, default 1): 
Using default value 1
Last cylinder, +cylinders or +size{K,M,G} (1-121601, default 121601):
121600

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x609682be

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdc1   1  121600   976751968+  83  Linux

Command (m for help): w
The partition table has been altered!

Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
Syncing disks.



Then I tried formatting it.

# mkfs -text4 /dev/sdc1
mke2fs 1.41.10 (10-Feb-2009)
Filesystem label=
OS type: Linux
Block size=4096 (log=2)
Fragment size=4096 (log=2)
Stride=0 blocks, Stripe width=0 blocks
61054976 inodes, 244187992 blocks
12209399 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
First data block=0
Maximum filesystem blocks=0
7453 block groups
32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group
8192 inodes per group
Superblock backups stored on blocks: 
32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736, 1605632,
2654208, 
4096000, 7962624, 11239424, 2048, 23887872, 71663616,
78675968, 
10240, 214990848

Writing inode tables: done
ext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short
read while creating root dir

==

This operation threw a kernel error:

Package:kernel
Latest Crash:   Sun 03 Oct 2010 09:13:56 AM 
Command:not_applicable
Reason: WARNING: at fs/fs-writeback.c:581 writeback_inodes_wb
+0x1ad/0x35b()
Comment:None
Bug Reports:

$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.34.7-56.fc13.i686.PAE #1 SMP Wed Sep 15
03:27:15 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

What now ?



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Re: Cant format 1TB USB drive ?

On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 11:29 -0400, Peter A wrote:

 What model drive is it?

Western Digital Scorpion Blue  WD10TPVT   Advanced Format Drive

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Re: Cant format 1TB USB drive ?

On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 11:29 -0400, Peter A wrote:
 On Sunday, October 03, 2010 11:17:42 am Linuxguy123 wrote:
  I re partitioned it with one less cylinder as follows.
 You still have the old partition table on the drive when you do that. Try 
 
 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=512 count=1 

That did not zero the partition table.   When I ran fdisk, it still
showed a partition. 

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Re: Cant format 1TB USB drive ?

Tried with a different kernel.  Same result.

# uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.34.6-54.fc13.i686.PAE #1 SMP Sun Sep 5
17:33:43 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

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