Machine locks on reboot from suspend

2023-12-19 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I have a Dell Precision 5820 Xeon with nVidia GeForce GT 1030 graphics
for video and a Quadro 4000 that I was playing with for GPU algorithms.
I have a fresh (fully updated) install of Fedora 39 with the nouveau
driver.

When I resume from suspend, no video shows. I can still ssh to the
machine, though. If I issue 'sudo shutdown -r now' from an ssh session,
the machine freezes. I can still ping, but I can't ssh (connection
refused errors). The only way I can regain control of the machine is to
power down by holding down the button on the front of the machine and
start from cold.

The proprietary nVidia driver doesn't exhibit the same problem.

In addition to the above, this machine has a problem where on boot, it
doesn't show the menu with kernels to select from. It displays "booting
in insecure mode", then goes directly to booting with the latest
kernel. I haven't changed any grub options since the install and I
don't have this problem on any other machine I use. I can get the menu
with ESC, but I can't figure out why it doesn't display by default. By
now, I do have two kernels installed.

Any thoughts on a solution? For the first problem, I'm not sure what
component to report on in Bugzilla.

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Re: Remote desktop on headless server?

2023-06-29 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2023-06-29 at 14:31 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 1:48 PM Matthew Saltzman 
> wrote:
> > 
> > I would like to set up a workstation in a network closet with no
> > monitor or keyboard attached and run a (GNOME shell) desktop
> > session
> > from another machine on the local network.
> > 
> > What's the best way to do that in Fedora 38, and is there a good
> > source
> > of documentation someplace? The GNOME desktop sharing facility
> > requires
> > that the connection be to an active session logged in on the
> > console.
> > Googling hasn't been much help for recent distros.
> 
> For headless server administration, the admin typically just SSH into
> the box and administers from the command line. That's because servers
> usually lack the GUI packages, and admins are usually adept at the
> command line.

I'm aware of that, thanks. This is intended to be a workstation serving
GUI apps over a LAN. I want to be able to use something like GNOME
Connections or Remmina to log into a desktop session

> 
> If you want a remote desktop, and you have a machine that provides a
> GUI or desktop, then I believe VLC server or RealVNC is what you are
> looking for.

VLC server looks like it's for streaming media. There seem to be a few
choices for VNC servers: TigerVNC, neatvnc, wayvnc, x11vnc. What should
I look for when choosing one? Anybody have a particular recommendation?
Ease of administration would be a plus.

Thanks.

> 
> Jeff

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Remote desktop on headless server?

2023-06-29 Thread Matthew Saltzman
Hi, all-

I would like to set up a workstation in a network closet with no
monitor or keyboard attached and run a (GNOME shell) desktop session
from another machine on the local network.

What's the best way to do that in Fedora 38, and is there a good source
of documentation someplace? The GNOME desktop sharing facility requires
that the connection be to an active session logged in on the console.
Googling hasn't been much help for recent distros.

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F35 install doesn't find existing Windows installation

2021-11-06 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I have a Lenovo Yoga X1 (2nd generation), on which I was happily
running a dual boot of the original Windows 10 installation that came
with the machine and Fedora 34, which I had upgraded through a few
versions of Fedora.

This time, I decided to do a fresh install of Fedora 35 (to try out
BTRFS), but when the installation finished, there was no option to boot
Windows. The Windows data partition, Microsoft reserved partition, and
recovery partitions are all still in place. I attempted to use grub-
customizer to add a chainloader entry pointing to the Windows, but it
displays "Error building boot sequence. Check parameters!"

Gparted shows the Windows partition and the EFI partitio both have
bootable and esp flags set.

Thanks in advance!

How can I get my Windows system to be accessible again?
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Re: Odd screen rotation misbehavior

2020-12-17 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2020-11-23 at 10:11 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> I have a Lenovo Yoga X1 (2nd gen) with Intel graphics, running GNOME
> (fully up to date). Recently, the screen rotation lock control in the
> system menu (drop-down in the upper right corner) disappeared and the
> screen stopped auto-rotating. I had been running in Xorg mode because
> certain Zoom features don't work under Wayland. At some point, I
> switched to Wayland mode and the control reappeared and auto-rotation
> started working. That worked for a while, but then the control
> disappeared again. I switched back to Xorg mode and the control is
> back.
> 
> Anyone have any idea what's going on and/or how I can get consistent
> behavior?
> 
> Thanks for any hints.

Since I sent this, the behavior has been consistent: auto-rotation
doesn't work in Wayland and the rotation lock icon in the system menu
doesn't appear. I can rotate the screen manually in the Display
Settings. In Xorg, everything works fine--the screen auto-rotates and
the rotation lock icon appears and functions correctly.

Any clues? What would be the right package to file a bug?


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Odd screen rotation misbehavior

2020-11-23 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I have a Lenovo Yoga X1 (2nd gen) with Intel graphics, running GNOME
(fully up to date). Recently, the screen rotation lock control in the
system menu (drop-down in the upper right corner) disappeared and the
screen stopped auto-rotating. I had been running in Xorg mode because
certain Zoom features don't work under Wayland. At some point, I
switched to Wayland mode and the control reappeared and auto-rotation
started working. That worked for a while, but then the control
disappeared again. I switched back to Xorg mode and the control is
back.

Anyone have any idea what's going on and/or how I can get consistent
behavior?

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Re: Wacom Bamboo Ink?

2020-04-25 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2020-04-24 at 09:36 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 4/24/20 1:18 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > Thanks for the tip. Should have mentioned that the pen works fine
> > in
> > Windows. I did try switching modes, to no avail. AIUI, the mode
> > compatibility issue is downstream from the fact that I can't even
> > get
> > the Bluetooth connection. The Ink and Ink Plus both have the mode
> > switch, but only the Ink Plus uses Bluetooth.
> 
> You could try asking on this list:
> Linux Wacom 
> I haven't seen any messages for a while but they've been pretty 
> responsive in the past.

Thanks! I will try there. I think I saw that project there, and it
looks pretty quiet, but definitely worth a try.
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Re: Wacom Bamboo Ink?

2020-04-24 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2020-04-24 at 08:05 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2020-04-24 07:31, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > Has anyone used a Bamboo Ink or Ink Plus stylus with Fedora?
> > 
> > Fedora 31, up to date. Lenovo Yoga X1 second generation. Trying to
> > use
> > a Bamboo Ink Plus stylus. I can pair it via Bluetooth, but I can't
> > get
> > it to connect after pairing. When I attempt to connect, the
> > Bluetooth
> > connection dialog window spinner runs for several seconds, then
> > indicates the connection is off. 
> > 
> > Any advice about things to install to support this device would be
> > much
> > appreciated.
> > 
> > If the Ink Plus can't be made to work, I can downgrade to the Ink.
> > If
> > anyone has a better suggestion for a full-sized stylus, I'd welcome
> > that too.
> > 
> > The built-in Yoga stylus works fine, but it's not comfortable for
> > significant pen work.
> 
> I don't know anything about the stylus.  But googling "bamboo ink
> stylus lenovo yoga" suggests
> there are compatibility issues even with Windows.  One hit suggested
> that the stylus has 2 modes
> and "Press and hold both side buttons at the same time for two
> seconds to switch between modes."
> 
> Something to try?

Thanks for the tip. Should have mentioned that the pen works fine in
Windows. I did try switching modes, to no avail. AIUI, the mode
compatibility issue is downstream from the fact that I can't even get
the Bluetooth connection. The Ink and Ink Plus both have the mode
switch, but only the Ink Plus uses Bluetooth.

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Wacom Bamboo Ink?

2020-04-23 Thread Matthew Saltzman
Has anyone used a Bamboo Ink or Ink Plus stylus with Fedora?

Fedora 31, up to date. Lenovo Yoga X1 second generation. Trying to use
a Bamboo Ink Plus stylus. I can pair it via Bluetooth, but I can't get
it to connect after pairing. When I attempt to connect, the Bluetooth
connection dialog window spinner runs for several seconds, then
indicates the connection is off. 

Any advice about things to install to support this device would be much
appreciated.

If the Ink Plus can't be made to work, I can downgrade to the Ink. If
anyone has a better suggestion for a full-sized stylus, I'd welcome
that too.

The built-in Yoga stylus works fine, but it's not comfortable for
significant pen work.

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Re: Firefox in wayland

2019-11-11 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2019-11-11 at 17:55 +0100, antonio montagnani wrote:
> shall I moveto Firefox-wayland when I use wayland? if I switch to
> Gnome 
> classic what happens??

IIRC, for GNOME, Wayland is the default and firefox-wayland is the
default. You can install and run firefox-x11 even when running Wayland,
but someone else might be able to say whether the reverse is true. For
other desktops, firefox-x11 is the default and if running Wayland, you
can install firefox-wayland.

As I've been using it, firefox-wayland appears to have a pretty severe
memory leak, at least when many tabs are open--eventually, it starts to
spill into swap space. Restarting Firefox mostly clears the problem,
for a while. I haven't tested much with firefox-x11, though. Also, when
I first started running F31, firefox-wayland used a bunch of processor
even when I wasn't doing anything. That seems to have settled down,
though. Not sure if it's just some tab I closed or what, but that was a
behavior change from the version in F30.

> 
> I am confused
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Re: Upgrade F30 to F31

2019-11-01 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2019-11-01 at 10:43 -0700, Clifford Snow wrote:
> Yesterday I upgraded to F31 after doing a backup. The upgrade was
> quick and smooth.
> 
> So of the minor details:
> [...]
> 
> In F30 I was running a gnome extension Dock or Dash to Dock. (I can't
> remember which) Dock remains as an extension but doesn't work so
> gnome is the default configuration. I miss having the application
> icons on the bottom of my screen. 

If you installed Dash-to-dock by hand in your own Gnome shell (from the
extensions Website), remove it and install the Fedora package for it:
gnome-shell-extension-dash-to-dock-67-1.fc31.noarch.

> 
> Best,
> Clifford
> 
> -- 
> @osm_washington
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Eclipse and Fedora 30 upgrade issue

2019-04-30 Thread Matthew Saltzman
Is there a workaround for the issue where the Fedora 30 upgrade decides
that all of Eclipse is not compatible with Fedora 30 and removes the
complete collection of Eclipse packages?

If it's best to wait until the issue is resolved before upgrading,  
will GNOME Software automatically update my downloaded upgrade
packages? If not, how to make sure that update happens before the
install?

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Re: livecd-iso-to-disk issue

2017-07-27 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2017-07-26 at 13:25 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 07/26/2017 08:01 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > I have an 8GB USB 3.0 key drive on which I want to install F26 Live
> > with room for an overlay and a home directory. I used
> 
> Your command doesn't include creating the home directory.

Hmm. I pulled it from here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_creat
e_and_use_Live_USB

There was no other option in the example for creating a writable /home.
In any case, the --home-size-mb option isn't the one causing the
problem. The command appears to start up correctly with that one and
without --overaly-size-mb.

> 
> >  livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb 2048
> >  Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-26-1.5.iso /dev/sda
> 
> First, are you sure that you want to write to /dev/sda?

Yes, my SSD drive is /dev/nvme0. The USB stick gets mounted on
/dev/sda.

> 
> > and that does nothing and returns no error or status message, just
> > a
> > prompt. I have discovered that it is the --overlay-size-mb option
> > that
> > causes the no-op return. Without that, the command behaves as
> > expected,
> > prompting me to confirm that all data on the drive will be
> > destroyed.
> 
> I just tried it and it worked.  Have you tried different sizes for
> the 
> overlay?  What version of livecd-tools do you have?

Yes, doesn't make a difference. I think I should be OK up to 8GB total
for my 8GB USB drive and 4GB for each writable bit. It's the latest (I
think): livecd-tools-24.4-1.fc26.x86_64


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livecd-iso-to-disk issue

2017-07-26 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I have an 8GB USB 3.0 key drive on which I want to install F26 Live
with room for an overlay and a home directory. I used 

livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb 2048
Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-26-1.5.iso /dev/sda

and that does nothing and returns no error or status message, just a
prompt. I have discovered that it is the --overlay-size-mb option that
causes the no-op return. Without that, the command behaves as expected,
prompting me to confirm that all data on the drive will be destroyed.

Anyone else experienced this? Am I doing something wrong, or is this a
bug? Is there a workaround?

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Re: Evolution sent mail folder for EWS account not updated

2017-07-21 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2017-07-21 at 23:37 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2017-07-22 at 04:58 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 07/22/17 04:52, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > > Evolution (evolution-3.24.4-1.fc26.x86_64, but it has been
> > > happening
> > > for a while) shows that I have 3508 messages in my Sent Items
> > > folder
> > > for an EWS account, but the message window only shows about 35
> > > messages. The latest is from July 16 and the oldest is from 2016-
> > > 02-21. 
> > > Clicking Send/Receive or Refresh on the Sent Items folder does
> > > not seem
> > > to have any effect. The Web interface to the account shows all
> > > the
> > > messages.
> > > 
> > > Has anyone run into this? How can I diagnose the issue? Is there
> > > a way
> > > to force a complete re-sync short of deleting the account and
> > > recreating it?
> > 
> > 
> > What does EWS mean?   Maybe I should knowbut I don't.
> 
> It's the Evolution plugin for Exchange Web Services. The OP would be
> advised to ask on the Evolution list rather than here.

Fair point. Thx

> 
> poc
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Re: Evolution sent mail folder for EWS account not updated

2017-07-21 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sat, 2017-07-22 at 04:58 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 07/22/17 04:52, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > Evolution (evolution-3.24.4-1.fc26.x86_64, but it has been
> > happening
> > for a while) shows that I have 3508 messages in my Sent Items
> > folder
> > for an EWS account, but the message window only shows about 35
> > messages. The latest is from July 16 and the oldest is from 2016-
> > 02-21. 
> > Clicking Send/Receive or Refresh on the Sent Items folder does not
> > seem
> > to have any effect. The Web interface to the account shows all the
> > messages.
> > 
> > Has anyone run into this? How can I diagnose the issue? Is there a
> > way
> > to force a complete re-sync short of deleting the account and
> > recreating it?
> 
> 
> What does EWS mean?   Maybe I should knowbut I don't.

Exchange Web Services. It's the current Microsoft "standard" for Web-
based interaction with Exchange servers (replacing MAPI, AFAIK).

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Evolution sent mail folder for EWS account not updated

2017-07-21 Thread Matthew Saltzman
Evolution (evolution-3.24.4-1.fc26.x86_64, but it has been happening
for a while) shows that I have 3508 messages in my Sent Items folder
for an EWS account, but the message window only shows about 35
messages. The latest is from July 16 and the oldest is from 2016-02-21. 
Clicking Send/Receive or Refresh on the Sent Items folder does not seem
to have any effect. The Web interface to the account shows all the
messages.

Has anyone run into this? How can I diagnose the issue? Is there a way
to force a complete re-sync short of deleting the account and
recreating it?

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Re: Can't log into Google with 2-factor authentication using GNOME Online Accounts

2017-05-11 Thread Matthew Saltzman
Please forgive the top-posting. I'm stuck in Outlook for a few days and it 
won't let me quote any other way.


(1) Not a browser issue, this is the GNOME Online Accounts app.

(2) Yes, it looks like Bug #144857. Hope to see that in updates-testing Real 
Soon Now.


Thanks Alessio!


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From: Alessio Ciregia <alcir...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:01 AM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Re: Can't log into Google with 2-factor authentication using GNOME 
Online Accounts

Maybe this is related to <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1446817>
Bug 1446817 – GOA can't login to Google account after new 
...<https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1446817>
bugzilla.redhat.com
Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 1446817. GOA can't login to Google account after new 
login screen. Last modified: 2017-05-02 06:23:00 EDT



Ciao
A.

2017-05-10 12:05 GMT+02:00 Patrick O'Callaghan 
<pocallag...@gmail.com<mailto:pocallag...@gmail.com>>:
On Wed, 2017-05-10 at 01:55 +, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> Anybody else have this experience?
>
> I create a Google account in Online Accounts, get prompted for email
> address, then password. Then, on the pop-up that should prompt for the
> Authenticator code, I see an empty box.
>
> This is up-to-date Fedora 25, so gnome-online-accounts-3.22.5-
> 1.fc25.x86_64.
>
> Sometime earlier, I had successfully logged into Google on this
> machine, but my credentials had expired. I had the same experience
> trying to re-authenticate and deleting the account and trying to
> recreate it.
>
> Thanks in advance for any pointers.

Sounds like a browser issue. Try using a different browser, or starting
the browser with no add-ons (e.g. pop-up blockers).

poc
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Can't log into Google with 2-factor authentication using GNOME Online Accounts

2017-05-09 Thread Matthew Saltzman
Anybody else have this experience?

I create a Google account in Online Accounts, get prompted for email
address, then password. Then, on the pop-up that should prompt for the
Authenticator code, I see an empty box.

This is up-to-date Fedora 25, so gnome-online-accounts-3.22.5-
1.fc25.x86_64.

Sometime earlier, I had successfully logged into Google on this
machine, but my credentials had expired. I had the same experience
trying to re-authenticate and deleting the account and trying to
recreate it.

Thanks in advance for any pointers.
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Re: Auto suspend stopped working on my workstation

2016-12-20 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2016-12-19 at 19:35 +, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-12-19 at 11:10 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Mon, 2016-12-19 at 00:28 +, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > > It happened a few weeks ago, so I don't recall what updates might
> > > be
> > > involved, but my workstation used to suspend itself after some
> > > minutes
> > > of inactivity. Then after some update (a kernel was involved, I
> > > believe, in case that might matter), it seems to have stopped.
> > > Even
> > > auto screen blanking doesn't work now. The settings haven't
> > > changed.
> > > 
> > > How to troubleshoot?
> > 
> > Well you could start by mentioning your version of Fedora and what
> > kernel you have. Otherwise it's hard to see how anyone can help
> > you.
> 
> That's true. Sorry, I'm usually better about that.
> 
> This is Fedora 25 with kernel-4.8.14-300.fc25.x86_64 (all the latest
> updates), but it started a few kernels back and I don't recall what
> the
> last working kernel or first failing kernel was.

So adding the requested specifics hasn't helped yet... (Everyone seems
distracted by that other topic. Just thought I'd try to break back
through.)

> 
> 
> > 
> > poc
> 
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Re: Auto suspend stopped working on my workstation

2016-12-19 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2016-12-19 at 11:10 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-12-19 at 00:28 +0000, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > It happened a few weeks ago, so I don't recall what updates might
> > be
> > involved, but my workstation used to suspend itself after some
> > minutes
> > of inactivity. Then after some update (a kernel was involved, I
> > believe, in case that might matter), it seems to have stopped. Even
> > auto screen blanking doesn't work now. The settings haven't
> > changed.
> > 
> > How to troubleshoot?
> 
> Well you could start by mentioning your version of Fedora and what
> kernel you have. Otherwise it's hard to see how anyone can help you.

That's true. Sorry, I'm usually better about that.

This is Fedora 25 with kernel-4.8.14-300.fc25.x86_64 (all the latest
updates), but it started a few kernels back and I don't recall what the
last working kernel or first failing kernel was.


> 
> poc
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Auto suspend stopped working on my workstation

2016-12-18 Thread Matthew Saltzman
It happened a few weeks ago, so I don't recall what updates might be
involved, but my workstation used to suspend itself after some minutes
of inactivity. Then after some update (a kernel was involved, I
believe, in case that might matter), it seems to have stopped. Even
auto screen blanking doesn't work now. The settings haven't changed.

How to troubleshoot?

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Re: Redshift and Dropbox not quite working after F24-F25 upgrade [partially SOLVED]

2016-11-27 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2016-11-25 at 14:21 -0500, Eric Griffith wrote:
> Not sure about Dropbox, but RedShift is a known issue. Redshift's
> model doesn't work under Wayland, the default session in F25. The
> same idea as RedShift has been / is working on being integrated into
> upstream Gnome and will work its way down to users in a future
> update. It still works under X, however.
> 
> You can go back to using X by logging out, and hitting the gear next
> to the "login" button. From there, hit "Gnome on Xorg" and login. 

I reinstalled the dropbox RPM from dropbox.com and it still didn't
work, but the one from RPMFusion Nonfree replaced that one this morning
and now it is working.

> 
> Cheers!
> Eric
> 
> > On Nov 25, 2016, at 12:39, Matthew Saltzman <m...@clemson.edu>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > I have two GNOME workstations upgraded from F24 to F25. Before the
> > upgrade, Dropbox and Redshift were accessible from the little
> > slide-out 
> > task bar at the lower left of the screen. Now, on one I see Dropbox
> > but
> > not Redshift and on the other, I don't have the slide-out drawer at
> > all. According to GNOME Tweak-Tool, both apps are listed on the
> > startup
> > panel.
> > 
> > So far, everything else seems to have gone smoothly.
> > 
> > How to debug?  TIA.
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Re: Redshift and Dropbox not quite working after F24-F25 upgrade

2016-11-25 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2016-11-25 at 14:21 -0500, Eric Griffith wrote:
> Not sure about Dropbox, but RedShift is a known issue. Redshift's
> model doesn't work under Wayland, the default session in F25. The
> same idea as RedShift has been / is working on being integrated into
> upstream Gnome and will work its way down to users in a future
> update. It still works under X, however.
> 
> You can go back to using X by logging out, and hitting the gear next
> to the "login" button. From there, hit "Gnome on Xorg" and login. 

OK Thanks. Good information.

> 
> Cheers!
> Eric
> 
> > On Nov 25, 2016, at 12:39, Matthew Saltzman <m...@clemson.edu>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > I have two GNOME workstations upgraded from F24 to F25. Before the
> > upgrade, Dropbox and Redshift were accessible from the little
> > slide-out 
> > task bar at the lower left of the screen. Now, on one I see Dropbox
> > but
> > not Redshift and on the other, I don't have the slide-out drawer at
> > all. According to GNOME Tweak-Tool, both apps are listed on the
> > startup
> > panel.
> > 
> > So far, everything else seems to have gone smoothly.
> > 
> > How to debug?  TIA.
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Redshift and Dropbox not quite working after F24-F25 upgrade

2016-11-25 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I have two GNOME workstations upgraded from F24 to F25. Before the
upgrade, Dropbox and Redshift were accessible from the little slide-out 
task bar at the lower left of the screen. Now, on one I see Dropbox but
not Redshift and on the other, I don't have the slide-out drawer at
all. According to GNOME Tweak-Tool, both apps are listed on the startup
panel.

So far, everything else seems to have gone smoothly.

How to debug?  TIA.
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Re: Edge Scrolling Gone After Update...

2016-08-08 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2016-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Kevin Cummings wrote:
> On 08/07/16 13:05, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
> > 
> > Richard, for the scroll reversed...  Put  "Natural scrolling" to
> > off and
> > it comes back to normalcy.
> > I don't know why they consider this as  "natural"...
> 
> I guess it depends on whether you expect the screen to scroll in the
> direction of your finger, or the screen to move in the direction of
> your
> finger  B^{

You can think of moving the window over the page (the way we are mostly
used to here) or moving the page under the window (the "natural" way).

> 
> Could this be a side effect of touch screen scrolling?

I believe Macs have defaulted to "natural" for a long time.

> 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Sylvia
> 
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Re: Edge Scrolling Gone After Update...

2016-08-06 Thread Matthew Saltzman
Sorry, missed seeing Ed Greshko's response. I guess that,
unfortunately, GNOME Shell no longer supports setting those in Mouse
Settings or Tweak Tool, or even anywhere in dconf.

On Sun, 2016-08-07 at 02:33 +, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On Sat, 2016-08-06 at 01:10 -0400, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
> > 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > It's been a while since I've had to come here and inquire about
> > the 
> > Fedora OS, but I'll keep this short and to the point.
> > 
> > Hardware: Lenovo ThinkPad T-420 - i5 - 8GB RAM - 320GB HDD
> > 
> > I was running F23until the Gnome Software app told me that
> > there
> > was 
> > an update for F24..which I spent just about all night waiting
> > to 
> > finish. Everything went well (I assume?) because it rebooted after
> > the 
> > update and everything LOOKED ok.until I fired up Firefox and
> > could 
> > not single-finger / edge scroll down the page. This wasn't the part
> > that 
> > "hurt"it was when I went to "Settings" and then "Mouse &
> > Touchpad" 
> > and discovered THERE'S NO OPTION TO ENABLE THOSE SETTINGS! So my 
> > question is simple:
> > 
> > What must I do to have those features return? Is there a
> > script?...a 
> > download?...some ".conf" file I need to manipulate to get this to
> > work 
> > again? I appreciate any and ALL help offered for this problem!!
> >  
> 
> The new default in F24 for touchpads that support two-finger
> scrolling
> is to support only two-finger scrolling. Also, tap-to-click is off by
> default. I haven't been able to figure out how to enable edge
> scrolling
> or tap-to-click in the new GNOME Shell.
> 
> Anybody know a solution?
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Re: Edge Scrolling Gone After Update...

2016-08-06 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sat, 2016-08-06 at 01:10 -0400, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> It's been a while since I've had to come here and inquire about the 
> Fedora OS, but I'll keep this short and to the point.
> 
> Hardware: Lenovo ThinkPad T-420 - i5 - 8GB RAM - 320GB HDD
> 
> I was running F23until the Gnome Software app told me that there
> was 
> an update for F24..which I spent just about all night waiting to 
> finish. Everything went well (I assume?) because it rebooted after
> the 
> update and everything LOOKED ok.until I fired up Firefox and
> could 
> not single-finger / edge scroll down the page. This wasn't the part
> that 
> "hurt"it was when I went to "Settings" and then "Mouse &
> Touchpad" 
> and discovered THERE'S NO OPTION TO ENABLE THOSE SETTINGS! So my 
> question is simple:
> 
> What must I do to have those features return? Is there a script?...a 
> download?...some ".conf" file I need to manipulate to get this to
> work 
> again? I appreciate any and ALL help offered for this problem!!
> 

The new default in F24 for touchpads that support two-finger scrolling
is to support only two-finger scrolling. Also, tap-to-click is off by
default. I haven't been able to figure out how to enable edge scrolling
or tap-to-click in the new GNOME Shell.

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Re: gcc 4.9

2016-07-31 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2016-07-31 at 11:32 -0700, stan wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:06:18 -0700
> stan <stanl-fedorau...@vfemail.net> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:24:16 + (UTC)
> > "Amadeus W.M." <amadeu...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 16:36:10 +, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > >   
> > > > 
> > > > IIRC the cuda installer lets you override the check for the gcc
> > > > version (try running the installer ".run" file with the "
> > > > --help"
> > > > option).
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Note that overrides the gcc check during installation--there's
> > > > no
> > > > guarantee that compilations will work. Cuda uses certain gcc
> > > > flags
> > > > that may be deprecated or non-existent in newer gcc
> > > > implementations.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer AllDigital, Inc.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > NVIDIA provides a cuda rpm repository and I installed everything
> > > from there with dnf, so it installed with whatever defaults it
> > > came
> > > with. And, as you said, even if it doesn't check for the
> > > compiler,
> > > it won't necessarily compile. I'm really looking for a clean way
> > > of
> > > installing gcc-4.9.  
> 
> Some further thoughts.  The 4.9 compiler is from F21.  So you could
> build a virtual machine of F21 to use for this, or do a minimal
> install
> just for this purpose. I can't remember the link, but Fedora keeps a
> snapshot of the last version of each version, so there is an F21
> repository with all the software in it, current at the end of the
> version.  Then just install from the cuda repository, and off you go.
> 
> This would be a lot easier than trying to bolt gcc 4.9 onto the
> latest
> Fedora.

Another alternative would be to just get the source from https://www.gn
u.org/software/gcc/ and build a local copy in /usr/local or your home
directory. That would avoid all the conflicts that RPMs generate with
the system GCC. I did that once some time back and it's not that hard.

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Re: Fedora 24 touchpad customization

2016-06-28 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2016-06-26 at 10:10 +, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On Sat, 2016-06-25 at 22:17 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > On 06/24/2016 08:04 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > > It seems that some of the touchpad customization options that
> > > were
> > > available previously have been removed in Fedora 24. In
> > > particular,
> > > two-finger scrolling is enabled by default, but edge scrolling is
> > > not
> > > available. Also, tap-to-click is disabled by default. Neither the
> > > Mouse
> > > Settings app nor Tweak-Tool have options to change those
> > > settings.
> > > 
> > > Is there a manual way to set those options with dconf-editor or
> > > some
> > > other tool?
> > > 
> > Try "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad scroll-
> > method 
> > 'edge-scrolling'".
> 
> OK, thanks. I checked and the current settings are the ones I want
> (and
> presumably set at some point in the past): scroll-method is 'edge-
> scrolling' and tap-to-click is true, but that's not how the touchpad
> is
> behaving.
> 
> In dconf-editor, there's a comment next to the scroll-method setting
> that says "No schema found". Also, the lines for scroll-method and
> tap-
> to-click are in bold-face type. I guess that means they are not at
> their default values. Also, there is a setting for edge-scrolling-
> enabled, and it is set to true.
> 
> Also, is there someplace all those settings are documented?

Any suggestions how to debug this? The machine in question is a Dell
Latitude E6430. I have an older Latitude laptop where it works with no
problem.

If I should file a bug, against what component?

TIA.

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Re: Fedora 24 touchpad customization

2016-06-26 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sat, 2016-06-25 at 22:17 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 06/24/2016 08:04 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > It seems that some of the touchpad customization options that were
> > available previously have been removed in Fedora 24. In particular,
> > two-finger scrolling is enabled by default, but edge scrolling is
> > not
> > available. Also, tap-to-click is disabled by default. Neither the
> > Mouse
> > Settings app nor Tweak-Tool have options to change those settings.
> > 
> > Is there a manual way to set those options with dconf-editor or
> > some
> > other tool?
> > 
> Try "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad scroll-
> method 
> 'edge-scrolling'".

OK, thanks. I checked and the current settings are the ones I want (and
presumably set at some point in the past): scroll-method is 'edge-
scrolling' and tap-to-click is true, but that's not how the touchpad is
behaving.

In dconf-editor, there's a comment next to the scroll-method setting
that says "No schema found". Also, the lines for scroll-method and tap-
to-click are in bold-face type. I guess that means they are not at
their default values. Also, there is a setting for edge-scrolling-
enabled, and it is set to true.

Also, is there someplace all those settings are documented?
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Fedora 24 touchpad customization

2016-06-24 Thread Matthew Saltzman
It seems that some of the touchpad customization options that were
available previously have been removed in Fedora 24. In particular,
two-finger scrolling is enabled by default, but edge scrolling is not
available. Also, tap-to-click is disabled by default. Neither the Mouse
Settings app nor Tweak-Tool have options to change those settings.



Is there a manual way to set those options with dconf-editor or some
other tool?

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Re: nVidia Optimus support status

2016-06-08 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2016-06-08 at 15:23 +0100, James Hogarth wrote:
> On 8 June 2016 at 14:43, Matthew Saltzman <m...@clemson.edu> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Apparently, the latest release of Bumblebee has dropped support for
> > the
> > nouveau driver. Installing the latest primus package from the
> > bumblebee
> > repo requires removing bumblebee-nouveau and installing bumblebee-
> > nvidia. I haven't seen an announcement to that effect, but there is
> > a
> > bug report at the Bumblebee repo suggesting that that's the
> > direction
> > they are going.
> > 
> > Is there a good, up to date summary of the state of Optimus support
> > for
> > Linux and Fedora, both open-source and proprietary?  Anyone have
> > in-
> > depth experience with Dell (Latitude E6430) implementation and a
> > recommendation for the best way to proceed?
> > 
> > One point in particular: I have a docking station, but I've never
> > been
> > able to get video out when docked. Has anyone succeeded in getting
> > that
> > working?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> The discussion which lead to that is here:
> https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/issues/773
> 
> On my 960m (F24 and 4.6+ kernel required) doing DRI_PRIME=1 ./foo
> "worked"
> (as in it used the discrete GPU and performance was moderate) ...
> it's just
> limited by the lack of reclocking in the driver for that chipset yet.

That's just with a vanilla Fedora install, no Bumblebee, I take it.

> 
> If using the proprietary NV driver for optimus then you can follow
> the
> Bumblebee wiki page fine, but you have to use the managed repo for a
> recent
> driver.
> 
> As to video out when docked, sorry I don't have a docking station to
> test
> (much less that specific Dell model).
> 
> 
> 
> TL;DR:
> If using nouveau (or modesetting as the direction seems to be going
> for the
> FOSS driver)  just use PRIME and not bumblebee ... only use bumblebee
> when
> using the nv driver.

Thanks. I will experiment.

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nVidia Optimus support status

2016-06-08 Thread Matthew Saltzman
Apparently, the latest release of Bumblebee has dropped support for the
nouveau driver. Installing the latest primus package from the bumblebee
repo requires removing bumblebee-nouveau and installing bumblebee-
nvidia. I haven't seen an announcement to that effect, but there is a
bug report at the Bumblebee repo suggesting that that's the direction
they are going.

Is there a good, up to date summary of the state of Optimus support for
Linux and Fedora, both open-source and proprietary?  Anyone have in-
depth experience with Dell (Latitude E6430) implementation and a
recommendation for the best way to proceed?

One point in particular: I have a docking station, but I've never been
able to get video out when docked. Has anyone succeeded in getting that
working?

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Re: Google Drive access in F23

2015-11-08 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2015-11-09 at 00:35 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-11-08 at 23:25 +0000, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > So I see my Google drive in the GNOME file browser now, which is
> > sorta
> > cool, but is there a way to work with it from the command line like
> > a
> > normal directory? Is it mounted someplace, or is there a way to
> > mount
> > it?
> 
> It's not a normal directory. Google has not yet released a Linux
> client
> so both Nautilus and KDE's Storage Manager have fairly limited
> functionality. See the thread at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipe
> rm
> ail/kde/2015-November/016413.html
> 

In F22, I was using google-drive-ocamlfuse to mount my Google Drive on
a directory, which still seems to work. But I have no idea how it
interacts with the new support.

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Google Drive access in F23

2015-11-08 Thread Matthew Saltzman
So I see my Google drive in the GNOME file browser now, which is sorta
cool, but is there a way to work with it from the command line like a
normal directory? Is it mounted someplace, or is there a way to mount
it?

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Re: openweather GNOME plugin and forecast.io

2015-10-25 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 17:58 -0700, Joseph Loo wrote:
> On 10/25/2015 10:27 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > On Sat, 2015-10-24 at 19:30 -0700, Joseph Loo wrote:
> > > On 10/24/2015 02:54 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > > > My issue is the reverse of the thread about openweathermap.org.
> > > > Openweathermap.org is working fine for me in the OpenWeather
> > > > GNOME
> > > > plugin, but if I switch to forecast.io, nothing loads. This
> > > > used to
> > > > work fine a couple of months ago, but now it fails on multiple
> > > > machines. I have API keys for both sources and I can log into
> > > > both
> > > > from
> > > > a browser.
> > > > 
> > > > I find the forecast.io reports more accurate than
> > > > openweathermap.org,
> > > > so I'd prefer to switch, if I could get it working again.
> > > > 
> > > > Any suggestions or related experiences?
> > > > 
> > > > TIA.
> > > > 
> > > Did you load the api key using the xxx.io registered key?
> > 
> > My API key appears in the OpenWeather settings window under Weather
> > provider. Is that what you're asking, or is there something else I
> > need
> > to do? I can use that key to log into forecast.io's Web site.
> > 
> > > 
> I  am not sure, but remember there are 2 keys, one for .org and the
> other for .io. Just a guess, since you are using the .io you might
> need
> to get the api key from .io and put it in to make it work.

Got it, thanks. Note that it worked for a time before failing, so the
API key should have been good. Set the URL protocol to https and it
worked with my API key. Also, mine was version 39, but current version
50 seems to work fine as well.

Thanks for the tip, though.
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Re: openweather GNOME plugin and forecast.io

2015-10-25 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 18:07 +, Andre Robatino wrote:
> Andre Robatino  fedoraproject.org> writes:
> 
> > P.S. The F21 version was just submitted for stable and should be in
> > the next F21 push. I received your message as an email but it
> > hasn't
> > appeared in the users list, even though you CC'd it to that, and I
> > don't know if this one will either.

My mistake. I thought my default Evo account was the one that is
subscribed to this list, but I was wrong. Fixed now.

> 
> My message just appeared in the users list, but yours never did. In
> addition, although you CC'd me directly by email, and I CC'd you back
> using
> the return address provided, I got a Failure Notice:
> 
> Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following
> address.
> 
> <mrm...@nospammail.net>:
> No MX or A records for nospammail.net
> 

No idea here. That's not any of my addresses.

> 
> 
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Re: openweather GNOME plugin and forecast.io

2015-10-25 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 05:30 +, Kseniya Blashchuk wrote:
> For forecast.io I changed http to https in
> ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/
> openweather-extens...@jenslody.de/forecast_io.js
> 

That seems to have done the trick.  Thanks!

> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015, 6:07 AM Andre Robatino <
> robat...@fedoraproject.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > Matthew Saltzman  clemson.edu> writes:
> > 
> > > 
> > > My issue is the reverse of the thread about openweathermap.org.
> > > Openweathermap.org is working fine for me in the OpenWeather
> > > GNOME
> > > plugin, but if I switch to forecast.io, nothing loads. This used
> > > to
> > > work fine a couple of months ago, but now it fails on multiple
> > > machines. I have API keys for both sources and I can log into
> > > both from
> > > a browser.
> > > 
> > > I find the forecast.io reports more accurate than
> > > openweathermap.org,
> > > so I'd prefer to switch, if I could get it working again.
> > 
> > Are you on F21? Recently forecast.io changed to require HTTPS, and
> > F22 and
> > F23 have stable update fixes, but the F21 version
> > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-b1924702b4 is
> > still in
> > testing (but just reached 7 days in testing so probably will be
> > pushed to
> > stable soon, even if no one tests it).
> > 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1270604#c8
> > 
> > 
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openweather GNOME plugin and forecast.io

2015-10-24 Thread Matthew Saltzman
My issue is the reverse of the thread about openweathermap.org.
Openweathermap.org is working fine for me in the OpenWeather GNOME
plugin, but if I switch to forecast.io, nothing loads. This used to
work fine a couple of months ago, but now it fails on multiple
machines. I have API keys for both sources and I can log into both from
a browser.

I find the forecast.io reports more accurate than openweathermap.org,
so I'd prefer to switch, if I could get it working again.

Any suggestions or related experiences?

TIA.

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Re: Evolution Mail Client Crashing When Opening Message

2015-06-13 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sat, 2015-06-13 at 18:47 +0800, Donato Roque wrote:
 I'm using:
 Linux linux-fedora22 4.0.4-303.fc22.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu May 28 12:37:06 
 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
  
 Evolution 3.16.3 is what I have. I'm using Google IMAP. I'm currently 
 only experiencing the crash when I open messages from 
 users-reque...@list.fedoraproject.org. 

I also experienced this with the recently released evolution-3.16.3
RPMs.  I was reading mail from an EWS account and opening digest mail from this 
list reliably caused a 
crash.

Please file a bug and report the number here.  Meanwhile, I am avoiding
updating evolution from 3.16.2.

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USB drive renamed during F21-F22 upgrade

2015-05-31 Thread Matthew Saltzman
It looks as though when I upgraded from F21 Server to F22 Server using
fedup, the identifier for my USB attached drive in /dev/disk/by-id
changed.  As a result, the entry in /etc/fstab that mounted that drive
failed at boot with no apparent warning.  Files intended to be written
to that drive went to / instead and filled the root partition.

I don't recall why that disk was mounted by id in the first place, but I
also don't understand why its id would change and how I should have
handled that during the upgrade.

Any thoughts, enlightenment, etc., appreciated.  Also, what's the right
way to set up automounting on a server that doesn't run a desktop
environment?
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Re: Status of Optimus laptop graphics in F22?

2015-05-29 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 08:16 -0600, Pete Travis wrote:
 
 On May 28, 2015 7:36 AM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote:
  [...]
 
  While searching, I ran across this:
  http://negativo17.org/nvidia-driver/.  Wondering if anyone has
  experience with these packages?  He claims to have Optimus support
  working without Bumblebee.
 
 I use these packages with a desktop card, the DKMS driver works very
 well.
 
 --Pete
 

OK Thanks.  I might give them a try, but still wonder if they support
Optimus and dynamic power switching as well as they claim.
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Re: Status of Optimus laptop graphics in F22?

2015-05-28 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 16:40 +0530, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 5:09 AM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote:
  Does anyone know if nVidia's Optimus technology is supported natively in
  F22?  Or do we still need to go with Bumblebee?  And what's the status
  of Bumblebee for F22?
 
  I booted the Live DVD and it loaded the nouveau driver on my Latitude,
  but I couldn't tell if it was using the Intel chip or not.  (There
  doesn't seem to be an X.log.0 on the live system.) How can I check?
 
  TIA.
 
 Optimus is not supported on Linux. Bumblebee should work fine on
 Fedora 22. By default system uses Intel graphic card but both cards
 are in ON state causing battery drain.
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bumblebee
 https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/issues/153
 
 PS:- Repos are up but wiki needs to be updated though.

Thanks.  

While searching, I ran across this:
http://negativo17.org/nvidia-driver/.  Wondering if anyone has
experience with these packages?  He claims to have Optimus support
working without Bumblebee.


 

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Status of Optimus laptop graphics in F22?

2015-05-26 Thread Matthew Saltzman
Does anyone know if nVidia's Optimus technology is supported natively in
F22?  Or do we still need to go with Bumblebee?  And what's the status
of Bumblebee for F22?

I booted the Live DVD and it loaded the nouveau driver on my Latitude,
but I couldn't tell if it was using the Intel chip or not.  (There
doesn't seem to be an X.log.0 on the live system.) How can I check?

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Re: Firefox won't allow connection when site certificate is invalid

2015-04-12 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sat, 2015-04-11 at 23:17 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Sat, 2015-04-11 at 20:09 +, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
   Thanks, I was hopeful but it didn't work, even after restarting FF.
  
  I believe you want to set 
  services.sync.prefs.sync.security.OCSP.disable_button.managecrl to
  true 
  in about:config. 
 
 Thanks, but there is no such boolean. I only see:
 
 services.sync.prefs.sync.security.OCSP.enabled
 services.sync.prefs.sync.security.OCSP.require
 
 both of which are set to True.
 

Strange.  I have both those flags, also set to true, but I also have hte
one I mentioned.

There was a lot of discussion about this around when Firefox 33 was
released.  I had to change some setting to get past the issue, but I
can't find the post that solved my problem now. The one I suggested
looked like the best bet.

Sorry.

 poc
 
 

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Re: Firefox won't allow connection when site certificate is invalid

2015-04-11 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2015-04-10 at 17:17 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Fri, 2015-04-10 at 17:44 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
  On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 02:08:35PM +, Joshua Doll wrote:
   On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:14 AM Patrick O'Callaghan 
   pocallag...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
I need to use Firefox to connect to a specific site which has an
unrecognized SSL certificate (the specific error is Peer's Certificate
issuer is not recognised). I get the usual dialogue asking if I accept
the risks, but clicking on the Add Exception button does nothing. This
is FF 37.0.1 on F21.
   
This specific site only works with FF and IE. It used to work with
previous versions of FF, but I last used it weeks ago so I can't be sure
which exact version introduced the breakage. I've already tried running
in safe mode, to no avail.
   
   Is the cert also expired. I've run into where if the cert is self signed,
   or from an untrusted CA and expired it won't let you accept the cert.
  
  Try unchecking the Query OCSP ... box under Advanced  Certificates.
  
  Hope this helps,
 
 Thanks, I was hopeful but it didn't work, even after restarting FF.

I believe you want to set
services.sync.prefs.sync.security.OCSP.disable_button.managecrl to true
in about:config.


 
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Re: (La)TeX suddenly can't find anything

2015-02-13 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 19:39 +0100, Andras Simon wrote:
 2015-02-12 14:28 GMT+01:00, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com:
  On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 23:24:40 +0100
  Andras Simon sza...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I've been using LaTeX on a fully updated Fedora 21, but now suddenly
  even TeXing the simplest plain TeX file produces this:
 
  warning: kpathsea: /usr/share/texlive/texmf-config/ls-R: No usable
  entries in ls-R.
  warning: kpathsea: See the manual for how to generate ls-R.
 
  //  Rule number one for anything TeX-related: before you proceed, make
  sure that you understand what is going on. ;-)  //
 
 Yep, that's why I never proceed :-)
 
  The warning messages are pretty clear: kpathsea is telling you that the
  ls-R database is empty or corrupted, and that it should be regenerated.
  It also suggests that you look into the manual about how to regenerate
  the database.
 
  The easiest way to find the relevant man page is this:
 
  $ apropos ls-R
  mktexlsr (1) - create ls-R databases
  texhash (1)  - create ls-R databases
 
  These two man pages actually both point to the mktexlsr man page, which
  tells you how to use it to regenerate the ls-R database. In short, you
  need to log in as root, and invoke mktexlsr with no arguments, like
  this:
 
  # mktexlsr
  mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texlive/texmf-config/ls-R...
  mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/ls-R...
  mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texlive/texmf-local///ls-R...
  mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texlive/texmf-var/ls-R...
  mktexlsr: Done.
 
  Hopefully that should regenerate the ls-R database on your system,
  making kpathsea happy.
 
  By the way, the ls-R database is the list of full paths of all
  TeX-related files. A long long time ago in a galaxy far far away it used
  to be generated manually by executing the command ls -R for a given
  directory and putting the result in the (creatively named) ls-R file,
  which kpathsea could search through and inform TeX where in the
  directory tree it can find the file it needs. Today, the database is
  generated by the elaborate bash script (do a less /usr/bin/mktexlsr
  to see the details), but it still boils down to going to the
  appropriate directory and taking the output of ls -R.
 
  Finally, all four ls-R databases which I have above are ASCII files,
  literally the output of ls -R for the appropriate directory, with a
  couple of lines appended at the beginning. So the fact that you have
  binary files there smells to me like something being very wrong with
  your files, probably due to the corrupted filesystem you had to deal
  with before.
 
 Thanks for all this information. I ended up following another
 Fedoran's suggestion, and erased/reinstalled all texlive packages.
 (Plain dnf reinstall, which I had tried before, was not enough.)

For future reference, a handy tool for working with the TeXLive setup is
texconfig (for user's personal setup) and texconfig-sys (for system-wide
setup).  It has a REHASH option for rebuilding the ls-R database as well
as options for paper type in TeX, xdvi, and dvips, and other setup
matters.

 
 Andras
 

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Re: (La)TeX suddenly can't find anything

2015-02-13 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 19:39 +0100, Andras Simon wrote:
 2015-02-12 14:28 GMT+01:00, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com:
  On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 23:24:40 +0100
  Andras Simon sza...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I've been using LaTeX on a fully updated Fedora 21, but now suddenly
  even TeXing the simplest plain TeX file produces this:
 
  warning: kpathsea: /usr/share/texlive/texmf-config/ls-R: No usable
  entries in ls-R.
  warning: kpathsea: See the manual for how to generate ls-R.
 
  //  Rule number one for anything TeX-related: before you proceed, make
  sure that you understand what is going on. ;-)  //
 
 Yep, that's why I never proceed :-)
 
  The warning messages are pretty clear: kpathsea is telling you that the
  ls-R database is empty or corrupted, and that it should be regenerated.
  It also suggests that you look into the manual about how to regenerate
  the database.
 
  The easiest way to find the relevant man page is this:
 
  $ apropos ls-R
  mktexlsr (1) - create ls-R databases
  texhash (1)  - create ls-R databases
 
  These two man pages actually both point to the mktexlsr man page, which
  tells you how to use it to regenerate the ls-R database. In short, you
  need to log in as root, and invoke mktexlsr with no arguments, like
  this:
 
  # mktexlsr
  mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texlive/texmf-config/ls-R...
  mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/ls-R...
  mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texlive/texmf-local///ls-R...
  mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texlive/texmf-var/ls-R...
  mktexlsr: Done.
 
  Hopefully that should regenerate the ls-R database on your system,
  making kpathsea happy.
 
  By the way, the ls-R database is the list of full paths of all
  TeX-related files. A long long time ago in a galaxy far far away it used
  to be generated manually by executing the command ls -R for a given
  directory and putting the result in the (creatively named) ls-R file,
  which kpathsea could search through and inform TeX where in the
  directory tree it can find the file it needs. Today, the database is
  generated by the elaborate bash script (do a less /usr/bin/mktexlsr
  to see the details), but it still boils down to going to the
  appropriate directory and taking the output of ls -R.
 
  Finally, all four ls-R databases which I have above are ASCII files,
  literally the output of ls -R for the appropriate directory, with a
  couple of lines appended at the beginning. So the fact that you have
  binary files there smells to me like something being very wrong with
  your files, probably due to the corrupted filesystem you had to deal
  with before.
 
 Thanks for all this information. I ended up following another
 Fedoran's suggestion, and erased/reinstalled all texlive packages.
 (Plain dnf reinstall, which I had tried before, was not enough.)

For future reference, a handy tool for working with the TeXLive setup is
texconfig (for user's personal setup) and texconfig-sys (for system-wide
setup).  It has a REHASH option for rebuilding the ls-R database as well
as options for paper type in TeX, xdvi, and dvips, and other setup
matters.

 
 Andras
 

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Re: (La)TeX suddenly can't find anything

2015-02-13 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 19:39 +0100, Andras Simon wrote:
 2015-02-12 14:28 GMT+01:00, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com:
  On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 23:24:40 +0100
  Andras Simon sza...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I've been using LaTeX on a fully updated Fedora 21, but now suddenly
  even TeXing the simplest plain TeX file produces this:
 
  warning: kpathsea: /usr/share/texlive/texmf-config/ls-R: No usable
  entries in ls-R.
  warning: kpathsea: See the manual for how to generate ls-R.
 
  //  Rule number one for anything TeX-related: before you proceed, make
  sure that you understand what is going on. ;-)  //
 
 Yep, that's why I never proceed :-)
 
  The warning messages are pretty clear: kpathsea is telling you that the
  ls-R database is empty or corrupted, and that it should be regenerated.
  It also suggests that you look into the manual about how to regenerate
  the database.
 
  The easiest way to find the relevant man page is this:
 
  $ apropos ls-R
  mktexlsr (1) - create ls-R databases
  texhash (1)  - create ls-R databases
 
  These two man pages actually both point to the mktexlsr man page, which
  tells you how to use it to regenerate the ls-R database. In short, you
  need to log in as root, and invoke mktexlsr with no arguments, like
  this:
 
  # mktexlsr
  mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texlive/texmf-config/ls-R...
  mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/ls-R...
  mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texlive/texmf-local///ls-R...
  mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texlive/texmf-var/ls-R...
  mktexlsr: Done.
 
  Hopefully that should regenerate the ls-R database on your system,
  making kpathsea happy.
 
  By the way, the ls-R database is the list of full paths of all
  TeX-related files. A long long time ago in a galaxy far far away it used
  to be generated manually by executing the command ls -R for a given
  directory and putting the result in the (creatively named) ls-R file,
  which kpathsea could search through and inform TeX where in the
  directory tree it can find the file it needs. Today, the database is
  generated by the elaborate bash script (do a less /usr/bin/mktexlsr
  to see the details), but it still boils down to going to the
  appropriate directory and taking the output of ls -R.
 
  Finally, all four ls-R databases which I have above are ASCII files,
  literally the output of ls -R for the appropriate directory, with a
  couple of lines appended at the beginning. So the fact that you have
  binary files there smells to me like something being very wrong with
  your files, probably due to the corrupted filesystem you had to deal
  with before.
 
 Thanks for all this information. I ended up following another
 Fedoran's suggestion, and erased/reinstalled all texlive packages.
 (Plain dnf reinstall, which I had tried before, was not enough.)

For future reference, a handy tool for working with the TeXLive setup is
texconfig (for user's personal setup) and texconfig-sys (for system-wide
setup).  It has a REHASH option for rebuilding the ls-R database as well
as options for paper type in TeX, xdvi, and dvips, and other setup
matters.

 
 Andras
 

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Re: Blocking POODLE [SOLVED]

2015-02-04 Thread Matthew Saltzman
...at long last (but I don't understand everything--see below).

On Sat, 2015-01-17 at 17:07 +0100, Andre Speelmans wrote:
  Thanks for the suggestion.  Changing the min (and fallback-limit,
  because I didn't know what that did) to 10 does not cause a failure to
  connect.  So either (a) the server change didn't take or (b) the browser
  change didn't take or (c) I need to do something else in the browser to
  force SSLv3.
 
 Test the browser with those setting against a server that you know has
 no POODLE vulnerability?
 

It turns out, for reasons I haven't figured out, that changing the
SSLProtocol line in /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf from 

SSLProtocol All -SSLv2

to

SSLProtocol All -SSLv2 -SSLv3

doesn't seem to disable the SSLv3 protocol, as advertised.  Instead, I
had to add the second version to the configuration for one of my vhosts
that supports https protocol.  I put it below the line

SSLEngine on

inside the VirtualHost *:443 block and then it worked fine.

Not sure why it doesn't work in ssl.mod or how I was supposed to figure
it out, but at least now it's working.

It occurs to me that this might be an issue with the order in which
files in /etc/httpd/conf.d are read: the vhost file is alphabetically
earlier than ssl.conf.  If that's correct, then maybe those files should
be named like the files in /etc/init.d, with prefix numbers to force an
ordering on them?

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Re: Blocking POODLE

2015-01-16 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2015-01-16 at 17:41 +0100, Andre Speelmans wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:45 AM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote:
  On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 19:09 +0100, Andre Speelmans wrote:
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote:
   SSLLabs reports a couple of servers of mine have SSL v3 enabled and are
   vulnerable to POODLE.  I followed instructions for Apache httpd at
   https://scotthelme.co.uk/sslv3-goes-to-the-dogs-poodle-kills-off-protocol/,
but that does not seem to cure the problem.
   SSLLabs still reports the servers as vulnerable.  Does anyone know what 
   I'm missing?
 
  Given that you are on the university network, are you sure there is no
  proxy in between and that SSLLabs is testing the proxy?
 
  Good question.  One of the servers is actually outside the university
  firewall, so I *thinK* that's not an issue, at least for that machine.
  I'm pretty sure that machines on the campus network are behind a network
  firewall, but not behind a campus proxy.
 
 Perhaps a simple way to test it would be to disable TLS in your
 browser and try connecting to them? As you are inside the campus
 network, you would probably not hit a proxy and if you only accept SSL
 and not TLS, the connection should fail.
 In firefox I would set security.tls.version.min to 10 or so and see
 what happens. Note: I have not actually tried it, but I think that
 would do the trick.

Thanks for the suggestion.  Changing the min (and fallback-limit,
because I didn't know what that did) to 10 does not cause a failure to
connect.  So either (a) the server change didn't take or (b) the browser
change didn't take or (c) I need to do something else in the browser to
force SSLv3.

Still confused...

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Re: Blocking POODLE

2015-01-15 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2015-01-14 at 22:39 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote:
  SSLLabs reports a couple of servers of mine have SSL v3 enabled and are
  vulnerable to POODLE.  I followed instructions for Apache httpd at
  https://scotthelme.co.uk/sslv3-goes-to-the-dogs-poodle-kills-off-protocol/, 
  but that does not seem to cure the problem.  SSLLabs still reports the 
  servers as vulnerable.  Does anyone know what I'm missing?
 
  The server also runs Trac and Subversion servers and a separate vhost
  runs Jenkins.  Does something special need to be done for those
  services?
 
  (These are, in fact, RHEL 7 servers running httpd-2.2.15-39.el6.x86_64,
  but I hope someone here will know what's going on.)
 
 
 RHEL servers have support from Red Hat, send an email or pick up the
 phone. The patches between RHEL and Fedora are documented, but unless
 someone actually knows the answer it's totally non-obvious how to
 answer your question other than yes I realize it's 2015, but here's
 how you use a telephone...
 

Well, this is a site license at a large university, so in order to get
to RH support, I have to go through (sometimes not very responsive or
helpful) institutional IT middlemen.  So I thought I'd ask here first,
in case the answer was simple and/or common across httpd versions,
because sometimes folks on this list are generous and willing to help
out in such cases.  

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Re: Blocking POODLE

2015-01-15 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 19:09 +0100, Andre Speelmans wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote:
  SSLLabs reports a couple of servers of mine have SSL v3 enabled and are
  vulnerable to POODLE.  I followed instructions for Apache httpd at
  https://scotthelme.co.uk/sslv3-goes-to-the-dogs-poodle-kills-off-protocol/, 
  but that does not seem to cure the problem.
  SSLLabs still reports the servers as vulnerable.  Does anyone know what I'm 
  missing?
 
 Given that you are on the university network, are you sure there is no
 proxy in between and that SSLLabs is testing the proxy?

Good question.  One of the servers is actually outside the university
firewall, so I *thinK* that's not an issue, at least for that machine.
I'm pretty sure that machines on the campus network are behind a network
firewall, but not behind a campus proxy.

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Blocking POODLE

2015-01-14 Thread Matthew Saltzman
SSLLabs reports a couple of servers of mine have SSL v3 enabled and are
vulnerable to POODLE.  I followed instructions for Apache httpd at
https://scotthelme.co.uk/sslv3-goes-to-the-dogs-poodle-kills-off-protocol/, but 
that does not seem to cure the problem.  SSLLabs still reports the servers as 
vulnerable.  Does anyone know what I'm missing?

The server also runs Trac and Subversion servers and a separate vhost
runs Jenkins.  Does something special need to be done for those
services?

(These are, in fact, RHEL 7 servers running httpd-2.2.15-39.el6.x86_64,
but I hope someone here will know what's going on.)

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Re: Time tracking app

2015-01-09 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2015-01-07 at 16:52 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 I am looking for a time tracking application now that I am a consultant.
 
 My searching so far has revealed lots of apps that claim this, but I am 
 interested in who here is using what.
 
 I am using Xfce, so rather not have a Gnome or KDE app.
 
 
 

I looked around last summer and ended up using hamster, which is
available in Fedora.

http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/
hamster-time-tracker-1.04-3.fc21.noarch

I didn't do an in-depth survey, though, so I don't know too much about
how it compares with alternatives.  It does seem to be GNOME-based,
though.
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Displayport/HDMI sound output channels reversed

2014-12-07 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I have a Dell Latitude E6410 (running up-to-date F20 and the nvidia
display driver) with a displayport alternate video output.  I use a
displayport-HDMI converter to run videos to a TV screen.

When I configure sound to play through the displayport/HDMI output, the
left and right channels are reversed.  Running the sound setup tool, I
test the speakers and the left speaker test plays through the right
speaker and vice versa.

Anybody else seen this?  Is there a setting that can be changed
someplace?  Or is this a bug?  Or both?

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Re: Adobereader won't install

2014-06-29 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2014-06-29 at 14:23 -0400, Temlakos wrote: 
 On 06/29/2014 11:16 AM, Mickey wrote:
 
  yum -y localinstall AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm 
  
  Yum does install  AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm but when I run
  the command acroread the Adobereader won't start and nothing shows
  in /var/log/messages. 

Are you starting it from the desktop or from a terminal?  If from the
desktop, is there anything in ~/.xsession-errors?

I suspect if you start it from a terminal command line, you might get
errors about missing libraries.  Externally-packaged RPMs are notorious
for not including complete lists of requirements, although the
AdobeReader RPM does list a lot of them, so maybe it's not so flagrant
an offender.

 
 I think it's because the name of the command is now changed. No longer
 acroread but AdobeReader. Note: that's case-sensitive.
 
 Acrobat is now reserved for the PDF editor.

AFAICT, acroread is still the command.

$ rpm -qf `which acroread`
AdobeReader_enu-9.5.5-1.i486

I don't have a command starting with Ado*.

 
 And by the way: the latest version is more than a year old.
 
 Where can we find a side-by-side feature table for Adobe Reader v.
 Okular, or whatever the favored PDF viewer is for Gnome?
 
 Temlakos

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Re: Adobereader won't install

2014-06-29 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2014-06-29 at 19:02 -0400, Mickey wrote:

 
 does any one know where  I can find the  pdf-to-text RPM ?

$ rpm -qf `which pdftotext`
poppler-utils-0.24.3-3.fc20.x86_64

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Re: How I got Firefox 29 to not be slow.

2014-06-05 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2014-06-05 at 12:07 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: 
 On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 09:59:08 -0600
 linux guy wrote:
 
  I ran a ps aux |
  grep firefox only to find a ghost firefox instance still running.  I
  killed it.
 
 This seems to be epidemic in browsers. If you use chrome for a while
 you'll see it there too.
 

At least a little while ago, chrome was even worse when many tabs were
open, IIRC because it consumed a huge number of threads.  Not sure if
that issue has been fixed recently, though.
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Re: Adding minimal X windows

2014-06-02 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2014-06-02 at 08:08 +0630, Sudhir Khanger wrote: 
 On Sunday, June 01, 2014 02:53:52 PM Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  I built a Fedora 20 system as a server, without a desktop.  It turns
  out, no X server is installed at all in that case.  I'd like to add a
  minimal X server without adding a complete desktop environment, so I can
  log in remotely and run system configuration tools.  The documentation
  I've found suggests 
  
  yum groupinstall Basic X Window System
  
  or
  
  yum groupinstall X Window System
  
  but neither of those groups exist.  There is a Basic Desktop group, but
  it installs a bunch of unnecessary desktop tools.
  
  What's the best way to get just a basic X server in Fedora 20?
  
  TIA.
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  Clemson University Math Sciences
  mjs AT clemson DOT edu
 
 Have you checked out group Basic Desktop? If I ever want to go minimal I 
 tend to go along with i3. You should try that.
 
 [donnie@fedora ~]$ yum group info Basic Desktop
 Loaded plugins: changelog, fastestmirror, langpacks, local, refresh-
 packagekit, show-leaves
 Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
  * fedora: mirror.cse.iitk.ac.in
  * rpmfusion-free: mirror.cse.iitk.ac.in
  * rpmfusion-free-updates: mirror.cse.iitk.ac.in
  * rpmfusion-nonfree: mirror.cse.iitk.ac.in
  * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: mirror.cse.iitk.ac.in
  * tlp: repo.warpnine.de
  * tlp-updates: repo.warpnine.de
  * updates: mirrors.ispros.com.bd
 
 Environment Group: Basic Desktop
  Environment-Id: basic-desktop-environment
  Description: X Window System with a choice of window manager.
  Mandatory Groups:
 base-x
+basic-desktop
 core
 dial-up
 fonts
 guest-desktop-agents
 hardware-support
 multimedia
 standard
  Optional Groups:
+cinnamon-desktop
+firefox
+gnome-desktop
+input-methods
 kde-desktop
+legacy-fonts
 libreoffice
+lxde-desktop
+mate-desktop
+sugar-desktop
+xfce-desktop
+xmonad
+xmonad-mate
 
 Group: Basic Desktop
  Group-Id: basic-desktop
  Description: Basic X Window System with a choice of window manager.
  Mandatory Packages:
 adwaita-cursor-theme
 adwaita-gtk2-theme
 adwaita-gtk3-theme
+awesome
+dwm
+fedora-icon-theme
 gnome-icon-theme-symbolic
 i3
 initial-setup
+lightdm
+metacity
+openbox
+ratpoison
+xmonad-basic
 

I did look at that and would prefer not to add most of the desktop
components it includes.  I did manage to get an X server going by
installing xorg-x11-xinit.  Might have to patch a few things up later,
but so far it's working well enough.

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Caching nameserver for home network

2014-06-01 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I'm trying to set up a caching name server on a server on my home
network.  All the instructions I've been able to find online refer to
the caching-nameserver RPM, but that doesn't seem to be available in
Fedora 20.  So my questions are: 
  * What happened to caching-nameserver? 
  * What (if anything) has replaced it? 
  * Are there any good, easy *current* instructions for doing this?
It seems like it should be a fairly cookbook task, so I
shouldn't have to learn all about bind to accomplish it.

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Adding minimal X windows

2014-06-01 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I built a Fedora 20 system as a server, without a desktop.  It turns
out, no X server is installed at all in that case.  I'd like to add a
minimal X server without adding a complete desktop environment, so I can
log in remotely and run system configuration tools.  The documentation
I've found suggests 

yum groupinstall Basic X Window System

or

yum groupinstall X Window System

but neither of those groups exist.  There is a Basic Desktop group, but
it installs a bunch of unnecessary desktop tools.

What's the best way to get just a basic X server in Fedora 20?

TIA.
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Re: Adding minimal X windows

2014-06-01 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2014-06-01 at 11:24 -0400, Derrik Walker v2.0 wrote:
 I usually just intall xterm.  It will get the minimum you need.  If
 you want a window manager as well as min X, install it too ( I usually
 us fvwm for cases like that ). 

Installing xterm doesn't work. Apparently, for many of these X-based
tools, nobody thought to include X as a dependency.

$ sudo yum install xterm
[sudo] password for mjs: 
Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package xterm.x86_64 0:297-1.fc20 will be installed
-- Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved



 Package Arch VersionRepository 
   Size


Installing:
 xterm   x86_64   297-1.fc20 fedora 
  461 k

Transaction Summary


Install  1 Package

Total download size: 461 k
Installed size: 1.2 M
Is this ok [y/d/N]: y
Downloading packages:
xterm-297-1.fc20.x86_64.rpm| 461 kB   
00:02 
Running transaction check
Running transaction test
Transaction test succeeded
Running transaction
  Installing : xterm-297-1.fc20.x86_64  
1/1 
  Verifying  : xterm-297-1.fc20.x86_64  
1/1 

Installed:
  xterm.x86_64 0:297-1.fc20 


Complete!

Xfce Desktop still pulls a bunch of multimedia and such.

I have it at least partially working by installing xorg-x11-xinit, which
pulled in a few other packages, and adding PackageKit-gtk3-module by
hand.

Thanks, though.

 
 - Derrik 
 
 On Jun 1, 2014 10:54 AM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote:
 I built a Fedora 20 system as a server, without a desktop.  It
 turns
 out, no X server is installed at all in that case.  I'd like
 to add a
 minimal X server without adding a complete desktop
 environment, so I can
 log in remotely and run system configuration tools.  The
 documentation
 I've found suggests
 
 yum groupinstall Basic X Window System
 
 or
 
 yum groupinstall X Window System
 
 but neither of those groups exist.  There is a Basic Desktop
 group, but
 it installs a bunch of unnecessary desktop tools.
 
 What's the best way to get just a basic X server in Fedora 20?
 
 TIA.
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Video editing

2014-05-08 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I shot a video with my phone, but I got it upside down.  Not
surprisingly, I guess, the usual video playback tools don't have an
option to invert the image.  Is there anything in Fedora that can carry
out that sort of transformation?

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Re: Gnome-shell weather extension hung

2014-04-08 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 15:04 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: 
 yOn Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 06:54:15PM +, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  I have one machine that has
  gnome-shell-extension-weather-0-0.13.git7587e23.fc20.noarch from
  RPMFusion installed.  When gnome-shell starts, the icon in the task bar
  displays a circular arrow with a caution sign.  That eventually decays
  to just the arrow.  The weather conditions never appear.  The pop-down
  menu reports Loading Weather, but nothing ever loads.  Clicking
  Reload Weather has no effect.  This behavior occurs no matter what
  city I select.
 
 I think it has something to do with the weather service used. Some number of
 requests can be made without having an individual API key, but after that,
 you need one. A key is free for personal use... There's a link in the
 extention's UI and a place to put it in the config interface.

I'm not seeing that link or the place for a key.  The Settings option
opens GNOME Shell Extension Preferences and the Weather extension
offers options for selecting units and for what is displayed in the
panel, a place to add locations, plus an option to debug the
extension (which doesn't seem to indicate any errors in the logs in
~/.cache/weather-extension*.log).  I don't see a place for the URL.  The
gnome-weather application shows that it's getting its information from
the Norwegian Meteorological Institute at yr.no.  (And the gnome-weather
application has no problem updating.)

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Re: Gnome-shell weather extension hung

2014-04-08 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 00:45 +0930, Tim wrote: 
 Allegedly, on or about 07 April 2014, Matthew Saltzman sent:
  I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the extension and I've tried
  to locate files or settings that should be cleared or reset 
 
 General advice:  Un-installing and reinstalling rarely helps, this isn't
 Windows.  You would have had to have a screw up during install, or some
 random error, for installed files to go amiss.  Something I've never
 seen, in umpteen years of using Linux.  Not that it's impossible, but
 quite unlikely.  And un-installing does not remove configuration files
 that you've created.  So, a re-install will get the same configuration.

I know all that, but ran out of ideas after killing anything that looked
to me like a configuration file or cache file in my home directory
didn't help.

 
 If you can't find the configuration files, you can try creating a new
 user (a new user has less files for you to look for).  Wait a moment or
 two, configure what you want to investigate, then look for configuration
 files with that timestamp on them.

Was getting close to that, but hoped somebody would have a simpler
solution.

Thanks for the suggestions.

 

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Gnome-shell weather extension hung

2014-04-07 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I have one machine that has
gnome-shell-extension-weather-0-0.13.git7587e23.fc20.noarch from
RPMFusion installed.  When gnome-shell starts, the icon in the task bar
displays a circular arrow with a caution sign.  That eventually decays
to just the arrow.  The weather conditions never appear.  The pop-down
menu reports Loading Weather, but nothing ever loads.  Clicking
Reload Weather has no effect.  This behavior occurs no matter what
city I select.

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the extension and I've tried to
locate files or settings that should be cleared or reset, but to no
avail.  Can anyone suggest how to debug this?  I have several other
machines that use the same extension from the same source, all running
F20, and they all work fine, so I'm at a loss.

TIA.

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Re: Good tutorial on setting up a grid/cluster using fedora

2014-04-04 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 09:40 -0600, Greg Woods wrote: 
 On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 21:34 +, Bill Oliver wrote:
 
  
  1) Get a pixel and a small area around it (say the surrounding 100 pixels).
  
  2) Do a contrast enhancement method called histogram equalization on that 
  group of pixels.  This will change the value of the pixel in question.  
  Let's say that this process involves 500 high-level instructions.
  
  3) Move to the next pixel.  Do the same thing.
  
  If you have a 12-megapixel image (say, 11,760,000 pixels), that's 
  5,880,000,000 instructions.  That 500 instruction block is impossible to 
  parallelize well.  However, each pixel is independent, so you can 
  parallelize the work on each pixel easily.  I remember back in the 80s 
  implementing this on a microVAX GPX II.  It took about 3 hours to do a 
  512x512 greyscale image by brute force.  Then Henry Fuchs et al. developed 
  the PixelPlanes machine, and Austin et al.  implemented it on that -- it 
  took about 4 seconds.  Even today on my laptop with an i7, a brute-force 
  contrast-limited adaptive histogram equalization on a 10 megapixel image 
  takes a go get a cup of coffe time period.  There are, of course, short 
  cuts such as the Pizer-Cromartie algorithm, but they introduce 
  interpolation artifacts.
 
 
 Sure, that's a good example of something that could benefit from
 parallel processing. But you still have to be careful. For instance,
 suppose you do have two different processors working on adjacent pixels
 in parallel. At some point, one of the pixels will be modified first.
 Depending on exactly when that happens, it can affect the final value of
 the second pixel, depending on whether the original or modified value of
 the first pixel is fetched when calculating the second. If done blindly,
 without any locking, this creates a race condition that will cause the
 final value of the two pixels to be indeterminate. That is to say, run
 the same code multiple times, and you might not get the exact same image
 out of it. 
 
 There are certainly tools that would make it easy to distribute the same
 calculation over all the pixels of the image to multiple processors. But
 those tools will not magically provide the locking you would need to
 prevent one of the neighboring pixels from being modified while the
 value of one pixel is being calculated. And the locking code can be
 tricky, which is why it can't be completely automated. For instance, it
 would be easy to lock all the neighbor pixels while calculating the
 value of one pixel. But that would cause the calculation the neighboring
 pixels to be delayed, thus losing some of the benefit of
 parallelization. 
 
 In practice, that example would probably be handled by using a temporary
 array to hold the output image so that the input image is never modified
 until the calculation is completely finished, then copying it back into
 place. But if your code doesn't already do that, it would have to be
 modified to do it that way. Another trivial example to illustrate the
 point.
 
 There are, in fact, tools that can analyze code and point out constructs
 that might prevent parallelization, or suggest places that could benefit
 from parallelization, but use of those tools is not 100% automatic and
 the ones that are used here are (I believe) proprietary and not cheap. I
 don't know if there are similar open source tools, but in any case,
 these tools provide suggestions, but they don't change the code for you.
 It is unlikely that any significant calculation could be parallelized
 with zero work.
 
 For our users, the investment of time in parallelizing code usually pays
 off, because this will help their big simulations run much faster, thus
 saving them time in the long run. We actually have a User Services
 section which employs people who specialize in helping users write and
 modify code to maximize performance on our massively parallel
 supercomputing system.
 
 --Greg
 
 
 
Rendering (AFAIK) doesn't really require the tight interconnection and
coordination of processes that generally characterizes HPC.  You can
parallelize trivially by treating each frame as a single job--the work
per frame is small compared to the whole job, and each frame is 
independent of the others, so you'll get near perfect speedup that way.

We usually call this type of load (lots of relatively small, 
independent tasks) high-throughput computing (HTC).  One HTC tool 
is HTCondor (Fedora 20 RPM currently condor-8.1.1-0.3.fc20.x86_64.rpm, 
more info at http://research.cs.wisc.edu/htcondor/).  HTCondor manages 
the submission of large numbers of independent tasks to distributed 
computers and the collection of results.  It also manages the load on 
machines that are used interactively, harvesting idle cycles but not 
interfering with interactive use.
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Gnome-shell calander plugin doesn't update

2014-02-10 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I have two machines running Fedora 20 with gnome-shell (fully updated).
On my desktop, the weather applet
(gnome-shell-extension-weather-0-0.13.git7587e23.fc20.noarch) works
fine.  On my laptop, the applet just displays the circular arrow.
Pulling down the applet display shows Loading weather.  Clicking
Reload weather information has no effect.  Changing locations or
deleting and resetting the location in the Settings menu has no effect.
Both machines are configured identically.

Any idea where to look to clear whatever might be locking this up?

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Re: Playing commercial DVDs in Fedora 20

2014-02-04 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 15:00 -0600, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: 
 On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:02:54 +
 Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote:
 
  On Sun, 2014-02-02 at 18:10 -0500, Fred Smith wrote: 
   On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 10:59:16PM +, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
   
   Have you tried using VLC instead?
  
  I hadn't, but I did at your suggestion.  After a couple of false
  starts, it seems to be working.  (Seems very flexible.  But I can't
  find a way to set the default disc device.  It assumes /dev/dvd1,
  but Fedora uses /dev/sg0 on my machine.  I couldn't find anything in
  the preferences to fix that.)
 
 Hello, Matthew
 In VLC, locate the Default optical device settings following these
 menus:
 Tools | Preferences | Show Settings (Simple) |
 Input / Codecs | Optical drive | Default optical device
 
 I just changed /dev/dvd1 to /dev/sr0 and clicked Save to see if it
 works.  So, I put a dvd in the drive and did the following from the
 main GUI in VLC:
 Devices | Discs
 
 The DVD started playing perfectly.
 
 If this is not what you wanted, I do apoplogize.

No, that does fix the default device in VLC, which is one thing I wanted
to know how to do.  Thanks.

 
 Steven P. Ulrick
 

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Re: Playing commercial DVDs in Fedora 20

2014-02-03 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2014-02-02 at 18:10 -0500, Fred Smith wrote: 
 On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 10:59:16PM +, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  I have libdvdcss from Livna and gstreamer-plugins-bad (who's idea was
  naming the gstreamer-plugins-* series, anyway?) from RPM Fusion Free
  (which contains /usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdvdspu.so).  But when I
  play a commercial DVD, Totem reports that it can't find the Sub-Picture
  Decoder plugin.  It offers to search, but finds nothing relevant.  The
  DVD does play, but AIUI, without the plugin, I will have to manually
  start each .VOB file.
  
  Am I still missing something (I have most of the gstreamer plugins
  installed by now), or is something misconfigured in Totem?  If there's a
  bug, whose is it, Totem or the plugins?
  
 
 Have you tried using VLC instead?

I hadn't, but I did at your suggestion.  After a couple of false starts,
it seems to be working.  (Seems very flexible.  But I can't find a way
to set the default disc device.  It assumes /dev/dvd1, but Fedora
uses /dev/sg0 on my machine.  I couldn't find anything in the
preferences to fix that.)

But that doesn't mean there isn't an issue with Totem that needs to be
resolved.

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Re: Playing commercial DVDs in Fedora 20 [SOLVED]

2014-02-03 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 08:17 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: 
 Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  I have libdvdcss from Livna and gstreamer-plugins-bad (who's idea was
  naming the gstreamer-plugins-* series, anyway?) from RPM Fusion Free
  (which contains /usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdvdspu.so).  But when I
  play a commercial DVD, Totem reports that it can't find the Sub-Picture
  Decoder plugin.  It offers to search, but finds nothing relevant.  The
  DVD does play, but AIUI, without the plugin, I will have to manually
  start each .VOB file.
 
  Am I still missing something (I have most of the gstreamer plugins
  installed by now), or is something misconfigured in Totem?  If there's a
  bug, whose is it, Totem or the plugins?
 
 Totem in F19+ use gstreamer 1.0 as opposed to gstreamer 0.10. Be sure you 
 have 
 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-freeworld installed.
 

That was it, thanks!  Now to try to figure out why someone else with F20
and the same machine can't make it work.
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Playing commercial DVDs in Fedora 20

2014-02-02 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I have libdvdcss from Livna and gstreamer-plugins-bad (who's idea was
naming the gstreamer-plugins-* series, anyway?) from RPM Fusion Free
(which contains /usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdvdspu.so).  But when I
play a commercial DVD, Totem reports that it can't find the Sub-Picture
Decoder plugin.  It offers to search, but finds nothing relevant.  The
DVD does play, but AIUI, without the plugin, I will have to manually
start each .VOB file.

Am I still missing something (I have most of the gstreamer plugins
installed by now), or is something misconfigured in Totem?  If there's a
bug, whose is it, Totem or the plugins?

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Re: How is wireless signal strength for NetworkManager calculated

2014-01-20 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2014-01-19 at 22:58 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: 
 Hi,
 
 I was wondering how wireless signal strength (as displayed by the
 network-manager applet) is calculated. There is a percentage reported:
 what does this percent mean and where does NetworkManager get its
 values from?

Not sure if this is still relevant, but it was part of the early
development of NetworkManager, developed right down the hall from me.

http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/nm-ipw2200.shtml


 
 While I am  here, I also wanted to know the answer to the question as
 to how the interfaces are decided in latter-day Fedoras: to elucidate,
 it used to be that eth0 and wlan0 and ppp0 were the interfaces. Now it
 seems to depend (and vary from one machine to the other). How do these
 get decided nowadays? Is there a generic way to get to the correct
 interface to use in programming? I am thinking of conky which requires
 the interface (from ifconfig, say) to set up signal strength, etc.
 
 Many thanks for any enlightenment and best wishes,
 Ranjan
 

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Re: Finding neighbours on my LAN

2014-01-19 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2014-01-19 at 00:32 +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: 
 Hi Tim, Matthew, others,
 
 On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 09:12:14PM +, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 20:42 +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: 
   On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 02:27:41PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 20:14:29 +0100
Suvayu Ali wrote:

 Can someone point me in the right direction?

Get a better router that supports DNS as well as DHCP?
   
   My landlord owns the router.  I think the easiest setup for me would be
   if the router could assign a predetermined ip for a given mac_address.
   I can't setup my computers to use fixed ip as they are portables and
   leave the house.  I use fixed ip outside the DHCP range for my desktop.
  
  I think that's actually no longer a serious issue, as NetworkManager now
  supports profiles.  In the Network settings app, you can select settings
  for each WiFi access point and you can create profiles for the wired
  interface as well.  Profiles can be associated with IPV4 and IPV6
  settings (including whether you DHCP or assign a permanent IP), security
  settings, and firewall zones, so you can have a permissive firewall at
  home, open ports for needed services at work, and have a tightly closed
  firewall for public access points.
 
 I had forgotten about this possibility.  This works nicely for wireless
 using SSIDs, is it possible to do this for wired connections?  After all
 they do not have something similar to SSID to serve as identifier.
 

Open the Network Settings app, select the Wired connection, and click
Add Profile.  The Identity setting allows you to give the profile a
custom name and select a Firewall Zone (among other settings).  The IPv4
and IPv6 settings let you select DHCP or Manual, select a DNS server and
set routes.

Firewall zones can be customized in the Firewall Settings app.

I haven't actually used hardwired profiles, so I'm not sure how you
select the active one for a connection.  That may be a manual process.

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GNOME Shell and password prompts

2014-01-19 Thread Matthew Saltzman
What app is it now that prompts for passwords when Evolution decides it
needs one reentered?

I subscribe to a couple of gmail calendars that don't require passwords,
yet I am prompted frequently and unpredictably to enter passwords for
them.  The prompts are the big black popups, not the old Evolution
popups, so I guess there is some utility that handles password requests
for GNOME.  Then the question is, is it Evolution or the utility that
keeps bothering me?

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Re: Finding neighbours on my LAN

2014-01-17 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 20:42 +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: 
 On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 02:27:41PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
  On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 20:14:29 +0100
  Suvayu Ali wrote:
  
   Can someone point me in the right direction?
  
  Get a better router that supports DNS as well as DHCP?
 
 My landlord owns the router.  I think the easiest setup for me would be
 if the router could assign a predetermined ip for a given mac_address.
 I can't setup my computers to use fixed ip as they are portables and
 leave the house.  I use fixed ip outside the DHCP range for my desktop.

I think that's actually no longer a serious issue, as NetworkManager now
supports profiles.  In the Network settings app, you can select settings
for each WiFi access point and you can create profiles for the wired
interface as well.  Profiles can be associated with IPV4 and IPV6
settings (including whether you DHCP or assign a permanent IP), security
settings, and firewall zones, so you can have a permissive firewall at
home, open ports for needed services at work, and have a tightly closed
firewall for public access points.


 
  Lacking that, the arp command may be helpful,
  but arp tables are sort of transitory and incomplete.
 
 I was under the impression all the ip bla commands were supposed to be
 replacements for arp, am I wrong?
 

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Re: Evolution freezes on calendar page

2014-01-09 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 20:18 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
 
 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu
 wrote:
 Suddenly, whenever I switch evolution to the calendar page (or
 whenever
 it starts on the calendar page) it locks up.  The status bar
 shows
 several occurrences of attempts to sync a couple of calendars
 that I
 subscribe to in gmail.
 
 The last act I completed successfully was to create a
 recurring
 appointment in my Exchange calendar.  The first lockup
 occurred when I
 tried to copy and past that item (though I'm not sure there's
 a causal
 relationship).  (Probably should have just created the next
 appointment
 from scratch, rather than trying to modify a copy.)
 
 
 
 
 You might try asking on the Evo list
 (https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list) but when
 doing so please state which version of Evo you have (see Help-About).

Good point.  I'm usually good about that.

evolution-3.10.3-1.fc20.x86_64

Will also ask on the evo list.  Thanks.

 
 
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Evolution freezes on calendar page

2014-01-08 Thread Matthew Saltzman
Suddenly, whenever I switch evolution to the calendar page (or whenever
it starts on the calendar page) it locks up.  The status bar shows
several occurrences of attempts to sync a couple of calendars that I
subscribe to in gmail.  

The last act I completed successfully was to create a recurring
appointment in my Exchange calendar.  The first lockup occurred when I
tried to copy and past that item (though I'm not sure there's a causal
relationship).  (Probably should have just created the next appointment
from scratch, rather than trying to modify a copy.)

Also, the Google calendars that are shown syncing are not my own, but
ones I subscribed to.  They don't have passwords associated with them,
but I keep getting popups in GNOME Shell asking for those passwords.

Any idea how I can at least get around the freeze in order to retry
things?  I can't use Evo to unsubscribe from any calendars because one
does that from the calendar screen and the calendar screen freezes.  Is
there a config file that I can edit?

Also, how can I get GNOME to stop pestering me for the nonexistent
password?

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Can Win7 be run dual-boot and in a virtual machine?

2014-01-05 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I have a machine with a dual-boot setup with Windows 7 Pro and Fedora
20.  I wonder if it is possible these days to run the Win7 installation
in a virtual machine using the raw disk and still be able to boot it on
the bare metal when necessary.  THe hardware is a Dell Latitude E6430
laptop, in case it matters.

What is the best VM tool for doing this these days?

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Re: Possibly OT --- Adobe flash player; how to get it to run?

2013-12-24 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 21:56 +1300, Rolf Turner wrote:
[Looking for Flash Player] 
 
 Grateful for any suggestions and/or advice.

Googling didn't turn this up?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash


 
  cheers,
 
  Rolf Turner
 
 

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Re: NVidia driver installation under UEFI+CSM mode

2013-11-06 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 22:51 +, Matthew Saltzman wrote:

 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://bumblebee-project.org/k=dsHy%2FVymniCD0osh6tze%2Fw%3D%3D%0Ar=6lbkzZQmkGgL7ITxCWNsIJwNXCdRDnxsPepTVOzWl24%3D%0Am=3Qq%2B1AAJhQnjOt2h7xWd%2BDcnmbrne%2FqGqK2MjngD%2BG8%3D%0As=a2ea19ae2ab35b2036fd8b9ba407232d886e4779e44c3ac0edc884797b64bcb1.

My apologies on behalf of the NSA wannabees in my employer's IT
department.  I think they've realized the error of their ways, so I will
try again.  The URL is

http://bumblebee-project.org

or if it gets hijacked again, 

http COLON SLASH SLASH bumblebee-project DOT org

If the newest kernel is going to support Optimus, that will be
excellent, although it looks like there is some work to be done yet. I
hope we get a chance to try it in Fedora 19.
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Re: NVidia driver installation under UEFI+CSM mode

2013-11-05 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 21:08 +0800, WangWentao wrote: 
 I have tried the repos version, but it doesn't work either.
 
 There is also an intel card along with nvidia card, so it supports optimus, 
 but I can't disable it in BIOS.
 

Just FYI, there is a pilot project to support Optimus here:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://bumblebee-project.org/k=dsHy%2FVymniCD0osh6tze%2Fw%3D%3D%0Ar=6lbkzZQmkGgL7ITxCWNsIJwNXCdRDnxsPepTVOzWl24%3D%0Am=3Qq%2B1AAJhQnjOt2h7xWd%2BDcnmbrne%2FqGqK2MjngD%2BG8%3D%0As=a2ea19ae2ab35b2036fd8b9ba407232d886e4779e44c3ac0edc884797b64bcb1.
 I'm using it and the Intel driver seems
fine.  On my system, the disadvantage is that the external display is
attached to the nVidia driver, so I can't use it without some hacking
around that I haven't had time to do.  The other disadvantage is that
driver switching isn't seamless.  You need to invoke programs you want
to run on the nVidia card with a wrapper program.


 I have tried a few methods:
* specify BusID in xorg.conf
* remove nouveau module(blacklist+dracut)
* increase vmalloc
 
 However, there is only a very dark screen after boot.
 
 
 
 在 2013-11-5,3:49,Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us 写道:
 
  On 11/04/2013 11:33 AM, WangWentao wrote:
  However, I failed to install nvidia driver. After I installed 
  NVIDIA-Linux-x86-319.60.run(no error), the X cannot be started until I 
  restore open source driver.
  
  Using the binary blob from nVidia is probably the worst way to go.  Not 
  only does it mangle several important system files, it has to be done again 
  every time there's a kernel update.  There's a much better fire and 
  forget system that works for Fedora, and here's a link to one of the 
  walkthroughs: 
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Re: Native Nvidia Optimus and Fedora 19

2013-09-09 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2013-09-09 at 12:26 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: 
 On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 16:47:38 +,
Powell, Michael michael_pow...@mentor.com wrote:
 
 Unfortunately, solely relying on the integrated Intel GPU is not an option 
 for me :)
 
 The 3.12 kernel is supposed to have better optimus support, so maybe things 
 will improve soon. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTQ0ODM
 

Meanwhile, there is the Bumblebee project:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bumblebee.  It offers partial support for
Optimus.  You can use the Intel driver as your main one and run
individual programs on the nVidia GPU via a command-line wrapper
program.

There are still some issues (Fedora 1819 require the nVidia binary
driver at the moment, for example), but I had it functional until I
tried to use an external monitor today.  That can apparently be done,
but one loses much of the utility (i.e., power management) of the
dual-driver configuration.  Not sure yet if I'm sticking with it, but
I'll definitely be keeping my eye on it.
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Re: cannot access incoming yahoo from evolution

2013-08-27 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 16:19 +0930, Tim wrote: 
 On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 16:04 -0400, Ron wrote:
  When I attempt to login to receive my email from yahoo.com  the
  password is not recognized. If I login from the yahoo web page with
  the same password i am able to retreve my incoming messages. I am
  using Server (pop.mail.yahoo.com) Port 110. I have encryption turned
  off. The Authentication is set to password. I was able to to send
  yahoo email from evolution.
 
 Check the support pages for Yahoo, they may have changed requirements,
 and you might need to use encryption, for instance.

I've been seeing this problem as well, but intermittently.  After a
failure and after a few retries, I get my mail again.  Haven't been able
to detect circumstances where it fails reliably.

 

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Re: installing latex in F19

2013-08-11 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2013-08-11 at 19:24 +0200, poma wrote: 
 On 11.08.2013 18:45, Andras Simon wrote:
  2013/8/11, poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com:
  
  Lucky 8? :)
  yum install $(repoquery --whatprovides */fmtutil.cnf)
  
  Thanks, but that wouldn't have helped, because texlive-kpathsea was
  already installed.
  
  Andras
  
 
 Always try to subscribe to the relevant mailing list. ;)
 
 http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/tex-live/2006-February/009777.html
 http://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/
 
 
 poma
 

And for Fedora packaging of TeXLive: 

http://www.linux.cz/mailman/listinfo/texlive

Not sure why that's not a Fedora list--it should be, IMHO.  But there it
is.

If this is a packaging problem and not a TeXLive problem, then that is
the right list.

 

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Re: Question about directory ownership (SOLVED)

2013-06-20 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 14:30 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: 
 On 20 June 2013 04:42, Anthony li...@cajuntechie.org wrote:
  On 06/19/2013 10:19 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 
 
  Am 20.06.2013 05:17, schrieb Anthony:
  How do I add myself as co-owner of a directory? I set up a new
  apache server and need to transfer files to /var/www/html. The
  problem is, of course, I've denied root login but don't have
  sufficient privs to login and transfer files under my username.
 
  How can I fix this?
 
  man chown man chgrp man setfacl
 
  generally the files should not be owned by apache and only
  writeable by the owner, in your case you
 
  from point of security it is very bad if the webserver has
  write-permissions because it may lead after a small breach in
  manipulated files wide opening the doors
 
  Thank you. In my case, it looked like root was one of the owners of
  the directory but apache wasn't. The owners were listed as root and
  me. But I couldn't write to it.
 
  I did a chown anthony: /var/www/html and that seems to have given me
  write privs since I'm now the owner. I couldn't find the man page for
  setfacl but I'll dig around the net and see if I can find it.
 
 
 Just spotted this, so apologies if I've missed some other context, but
 to pick up on something you said here:
 It's very unsual to have two owners for a file or directory. It might
 be possible on some filesystems, but not normal Linux FS. I think you
 might be misinterpreting the ls -l output of something like (on this
 RHEL machine),
 $ls /var/lib/mlocate/ -lhd
 drwxr-x---. 2 root slocate 4.0K Jun 20 03:26 /var/lib/mlocate/
 
 Where the second name indicates group, not a second owner. Group
 members are subject to the group permisions, here slocate doesn't have
 write access to this directory. As a normal user not in the group I
 don't have read or write access.
 
 
  In the meantime, I'm assuming simply taking ownership of the directory
  shouldn't open any security holes, right?
 
 
 Well, weakening permissions always has some security implications, but
 as Harald said it's actually having the web server with write
 permission that is the thing to avoid. A separate group able to write
 to the www directory is the right way to do this, if only one user
 needs it then ownership instead is equivalent.

A nice solution to this problem is described in the Red Hat
documentation for user private groups, which is how Fedora manages
user groups anyway.  We have the Web server as a member of a group of
users that owns the html directory, along with other users who need to
maintain it. Properly implemented, this seems to work well.  Google
user private groups for details.

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Re: gnome-shell and syslog problems [SOLVED]

2013-05-08 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 10:35 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: 
 On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 07:34:39PM +, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
   $HOME/.cache/gdm/session.log
  
  Window manager warning: Failed to load theme Nodoka: Failed to
  find a valid file for theme Nodoka
  
  Which makes sense, insofar as I did not have Nodaka installed, but does
  not make sense, insofar as I never selected Nodaka as a theme.  (It's
  not an option if it's not installed.)
  
  Started gnome-tweak-tool from a remote SSH session, checked that the
  default theme was still selected.  (It was.)  gnome-tweak-tool updates
  its settings when it exits, and after that, everything seems to be
  working fine.
 
 Please still file a bug for this. Ideally if there is a problem with the
 theme it would revert to the default theme. Not sure if technically
 possible though, depends on why it failed (bug report would inform the
 developers so they can investigate). Assume product should be either
 mutter or gnome-shell.
 
 Aside from that, maybe the fail screen should just allow to show that
 session.log file. I know there is some pending work on the fail screen.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=960978

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Re: gnome-shell and syslog problems

2013-05-06 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2013-05-05 at 17:05 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: 
 On 05/05/2013 04:45 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  When I tried to troubleshoot that problem, I discovered
  that /var/log/messages* and some other files were empty.  It turns out
  that syslogd was dead.  I've found that it simply doesn't start on boot,
  but it starts fine when I start it by hand.  dmesg and boot.log appear
  normal AFAICT, though there is nothing in them related to syslog.
 
 Try this as root:
 
 systemctl enable syslog.service
 
 I'm guessing that it either got disabled, or wasn't enabled in the first 
 place.  In fact, I'm not sure, but I think it's not enabled by default, 
 but my memory could easily be wrong.

Yes, I got that part, thanks.  No clue why it was disabled.

 

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Re: gnome-shell and syslog problems [SOLVED]

2013-05-06 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 02:28 +0200, poma wrote: 
 On 06.05.2013 01:45, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  I have a Fedora 18 machine on which I use gnome-shell as a desktop.
  After the last set of updates, I tried to restart.  The machine froze
  during shutdown and I had to reset it from the front panel.  Since then,
  I can't get gnome-shell to start.  The greeter runs, but when I log in,
  I just get the background screen.  My keyboard remaps take hold (I swap
  ctrl and caps-lock to get a Sun keyboard feel), but I don't see any
  panels.
 …
 
 $HOME/.xsession-errors

That file was last written in January, so I'm pretty sure there's
nothing relevant there.

 $HOME/.cache/gdm/session.log

Window manager warning: Failed to load theme Nodoka: Failed to
find a valid file for theme Nodoka

Which makes sense, insofar as I did not have Nodaka installed, but does
not make sense, insofar as I never selected Nodaka as a theme.  (It's
not an option if it's not installed.)

Started gnome-tweak-tool from a remote SSH session, checked that the
default theme was still selected.  (It was.)  gnome-tweak-tool updates
its settings when it exits, and after that, everything seems to be
working fine.

Thanks for the pointers.

So now that this has me thinking about themes, what gnome-shell themes
do y'all like, and why?



 
 
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gnome-shell and syslog problems

2013-05-05 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I have a Fedora 18 machine on which I use gnome-shell as a desktop.
After the last set of updates, I tried to restart.  The machine froze
during shutdown and I had to reset it from the front panel.  Since then,
I can't get gnome-shell to start.  The greeter runs, but when I log in,
I just get the background screen.  My keyboard remaps take hold (I swap
ctrl and caps-lock to get a Sun keyboard feel), but I don't see any
panels.

When I tried to troubleshoot that problem, I discovered
that /var/log/messages* and some other files were empty.  It turns out
that syslogd was dead.  I've found that it simply doesn't start on boot,
but it starts fine when I start it by hand.  dmesg and boot.log appear
normal AFAICT, though there is nothing in them related to syslog.

I've tried googling for solutions, but I haven't find a good set of
search terms to target.

Can anyone suggest how to start troubleshooting either of these
problems?

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Re: gnome-shell and syslog problems [syslog problem SOLVED but not explained]

2013-05-05 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2013-05-05 at 23:45 +, Matthew Saltzman wrote: 
 I have a Fedora 18 machine on which I use gnome-shell as a desktop.
 After the last set of updates, I tried to restart.  The machine froze
 during shutdown and I had to reset it from the front panel.  Since then,
 I can't get gnome-shell to start.  The greeter runs, but when I log in,
 I just get the background screen.  My keyboard remaps take hold (I swap
 ctrl and caps-lock to get a Sun keyboard feel), but I don't see any
 panels.
 

One further piece of information--logging in as another user works fine,
so it's something that happened to my account.

 When I tried to troubleshoot that problem, I discovered
 that /var/log/messages* and some other files were empty.  It turns out
 that syslogd was dead.  I've found that it simply doesn't start on boot,
 but it starts fine when I start it by hand.  dmesg and boot.log appear
 normal AFAICT, though there is nothing in them related to syslog.
 

I ran 'systemctl reenable rsyslog' and it appears to work fine now.  But
I don't know what might have caused the failure.


 I've tried googling for solutions, but I haven't find a good set of
 search terms to target.
 
 Can anyone suggest how to start troubleshooting either of these
 problems?
 
 TIA.

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Re: Upgrade to 3.8.8-100: now boot loops ! solved: grub2 bug.

2013-05-03 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 22:31 -0400, sean darcy wrote: 
 On 05/02/2013 03:07 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 13:17 -0400, sean darcy wrote:
  On 04/30/2013 02:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
  On 04/30/2013 10:14 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
  * make sure installonly_limit in /etc/yum.conf is high enough to not
  remove the 3.7.x
 
  If you really want to be safe:
 
  yum remove kernel
 
  will remove all installed kernels *except* for the one you're currently
  using.  (That is, yum won't allow you to leave yourself without a kernel
  for the next time you boot.)  You probably don't need to be this
  heavy-handed, but you never know when something like this might come in
  handy.
 
  I did that. Ran yum update. Same problem.
 
  But I figured it out. I've been planning to upgrade to F18 when I have
  the courage. I've run fedup. But then when I upgrade to a new F17,
  grub2, in it's infinite wisdom, places all the upgrade stuff from a
  fedup boot to the command line of the new F17 kernel.
 
  Only way to fix is to go edit grub.cfg itself. And you need to keep
  doing it with every kernel upgrade. Sigh.
 
  GRUB2 works more like LILO than like old GRUB, in that there is a
  configuration file to edit and an installation procedure to get the boot
  process to use the updated configuration.
 
  The file to edit is /etc/default/grub.  The installation command is
 
   grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
 
  That command runs some scripts that create /boot/grub2/grub.cfg,
  which--as you've discovered--you should never edit.
 
  /etc/default/grub is a set of shell variable definitions.  The one you
  want to edit is GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX, which contains a template for the
  kernel command line arguments.  Once this is fixed, the kernel update
  process should work correctly.
 
  If have trouble figuring out what to fix, post the contents of
  your /etc/default/grub here.
 
  If you are annoyed by the missing font file error message when grub2
  starts, add the line
 
   LANG=C
 
  to the top of that file.
 
 
 
  sean
 
 
 
 
 You miss the point. /etc/default/grub was never changed, and CMDLINE is 
 the same as always:
 GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 
 KEYTABLE=us rd.luks=0 LANG=en_US.UTF-8

Sorry, the point wasn't clear, as you only referenced editing grub.cfg.

 
 Nonetheless, grub2 is putting all the upgrade stuff in the command line. 
 That's the error.

The scripts that are run by grub2-mkconfig reside in /etc/grub.d.  Is
there anything in that directory related to running the update?

Fedup apparently involves some systemd services.  Are some enabled that
should be turned off?

 
 sean
 
 
 

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Re: Upgrade to 3.8.8-100: now boot loops ! solved: grub2 bug.

2013-05-02 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 13:17 -0400, sean darcy wrote: 
 On 04/30/2013 02:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
  On 04/30/2013 10:14 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
  * make sure installonly_limit in /etc/yum.conf is high enough to not
 remove the 3.7.x
 
  If you really want to be safe:
 
  yum remove kernel
 
  will remove all installed kernels *except* for the one you're currently
  using.  (That is, yum won't allow you to leave yourself without a kernel
  for the next time you boot.)  You probably don't need to be this
  heavy-handed, but you never know when something like this might come in
  handy.
 
 I did that. Ran yum update. Same problem.
 
 But I figured it out. I've been planning to upgrade to F18 when I have 
 the courage. I've run fedup. But then when I upgrade to a new F17, 
 grub2, in it's infinite wisdom, places all the upgrade stuff from a 
 fedup boot to the command line of the new F17 kernel.
 
 Only way to fix is to go edit grub.cfg itself. And you need to keep 
 doing it with every kernel upgrade. Sigh.

GRUB2 works more like LILO than like old GRUB, in that there is a
configuration file to edit and an installation procedure to get the boot
process to use the updated configuration.

The file to edit is /etc/default/grub.  The installation command is 

grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

That command runs some scripts that create /boot/grub2/grub.cfg,
which--as you've discovered--you should never edit.

/etc/default/grub is a set of shell variable definitions.  The one you
want to edit is GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX, which contains a template for the
kernel command line arguments.  Once this is fixed, the kernel update
process should work correctly.

If have trouble figuring out what to fix, post the contents of
your /etc/default/grub here.

If you are annoyed by the missing font file error message when grub2
starts, add the line 

LANG=C

to the top of that file.


 
 sean
 
 

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Re: Installing texlive under Fedora 17.

2013-04-12 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 21:37 +1200, Rolf Turner wrote:

 So I need somehow to get an installation of texlive where latex really 
 means
 ***latex*** and not pdftex.  How the hell do I arrange that?
 

I'm a bit late to this party, but Jindrich Novy's Fedora TeXLive repo
for F17 works well.  This has been integrated into F18 as the default
LaTeX subsystem.  The older TeXLive packaging system (the default in
F17) didn't work very well at all, which I guess has been your
experience.

Contra the purists here, my advice would be to wipe all traces of
TeXLive--either RPMs or native install--and install this one.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive#TeX_Live_2012_2


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Re: Disability relief

2013-04-08 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 12:43 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: 
 On 04/08/2013 12:32 PM, Beartooth wrote:
  I do always set that, yes, as soon as I find it, and it does
  help; but I have yet to find it in Gnome 3 or xfce4. Anybody know where
  it lurks?
 
 AFAIK, it's a Gnome thing.  I've certainly not found the equivalent in 
 Xfce, and I'd love to.  If nothing else, it helps when you've brought 
 the screen back up by moving the mouse and need to find out where it got 
 to.  Hmm, maybe I should go over to their forum and suggest it as an 
 enhancement...

It is a GNOME thing.  I don't know if it's available in any other
desktop managers. 

Install gnome-tweak-tool, open it and select the Mouse menu item.

 

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Re: Disability relief

2013-04-06 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 18:42 +, Beartooth wrote: 
   I need cursor symbols that my antiquated eyeballs can spot even
 through trifocals. Last time I had a machine running CentOS (6.2 iirc) I 
 had managed to get a big yellow arrow to show the mouse cursor. It was 
 wonderful.
 
   Now I have machines running Fedora (17  18) and Puppy (5.0) --
 and even with eyes on two panels I have an awful time spotting the mouse 
 cursor. Can anyone tell me a way to get my arrow back??
 

Not sure how to change arrows, but if you're using gnome-shell, you can
install gnome-tweak-tool and under the mouse settings, you can set the
cursor to highlight with a ripple effect when you press the control key.
It's nice when the mouse is in a corner or the cursor is a vertical bar,
and maybe helpful in your case as well.

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Re: Fedora 18 software: check for update hangs

2013-03-31 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2013-03-31 at 15:18 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: 
 On Sun, 2013-03-31 at 15:09 -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
  When I selected Software and within that chose the menu item to check 
  for updates, the process worked for a while and then apparently made no 
  more progress but ate 100% of the CPU.
  
  It is kind of scary interrupting an update, but after about half an hour 
  of no progress, I decided that there was no other way.
  
  Do this in a superuser shell instead.  It works and gives better feedback:
  yum update
  
  
  See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922697
  
  PS. I consider software: check for updates less convenient than the 
  pre-F18 sofware updates.
 I commented on this previously. The Software program in Gnome does not
 do an yum update for me.  It behaves just as you report in F18.
 
 Does it work for anyone?

It usually works for me, but seems to hang sometimes.  I think it's when
there is the pop-up dialog for additional packages or deleted packages.
When it happens, the progress bar disappears and the updater appears to
hang.

Killing it and running yum by hand has always worked in that case.
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Re: undo rm -rf *

2013-03-26 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 17:21 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: 
 
 Am 26.03.2013 17:16, schrieb Bruno Wolff III:
  On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 03:11:54 +1100,
Celik celik.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Bruno, after such an experience, did you come up with an alternative
  solution to using rm -rf?
  rm -i is good as it prompts before deletion however it becomes tedious if
  there are a lot of files to be deleted, hence rm -rf seems ideal but
  dangerous if not cautious :(
  Had a look on google, there was one particular recommendation that caught
  me attention (sorry I don't have the link). It was recommended to mv the
  files (and/or folders) to be deleted into a tmp directory. I'm planning to
  try that in my future code, we'll see how things go.
  
  Try to be more careful, especially when there is an asterisk involved. And 
  I keep in mind about '..', so no
  deleting '.*'
 
 and how yoill you remove all hidden files of a folder?

rm -rf .??*

This would miss files with only one character after the dot in the name,
like .a, but those can be handled explicitly with less trouble than
recovering from mistakenly deleting the contents of the parent
directory.

 this is safe since a very long time
 
 [root@testserver:/tmp]$ LANG=c; /usr/bin/rm -rf .*
 /usr/bin/rm: cannot remove directory: '.'
 /usr/bin/rm: cannot remove directory: '..'

Does this not depend on where in the tree you are and what permissions
you have on . and ..?

 
 
 

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