mate autologin

2016-04-22 Thread Pasha R
Hi all,

I'm using Fedora 23 with mate and trying to setup autologin. I edited a
file /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and uncommented lines
autologin-user=pasha
autologin-user-timeout=0

but after boot, I still get a login window.
I also tried to uncomment
pam-autologin-service=lightdm-autologin

then after boot, I got login window with message "Unable to authenticate"
over it.

Any ideas where else to look?

Thanks.
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Re: How to install MATE on fedora workstation

2014-12-16 Thread Pasha R
Thanks, didn't see that before.

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Pete Travis  wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 15, 2014 6:44 AM, "Pasha R"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I installed fedora 21 workstation, and trying to install MATE desktop on
> it. Command "yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop"" attempts to resolve
> dependencies and fails with conflict between fedora-release-workstation and
> fedora-release-nonproduct.
> >
> > So, is it possible to install MATE on workstation, or it is GNOME only
> now?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
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How to install MATE on fedora workstation

2014-12-15 Thread Pasha R
Hi,

I installed fedora 21 workstation, and trying to install MATE desktop on
it. Command "yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop"" attempts to resolve
dependencies and fails with conflict between fedora-release-workstation and
fedora-release-nonproduct.

So, is it possible to install MATE on workstation, or it is GNOME only now?

Thanks.
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Re: install fedora via usb stick

2013-12-12 Thread Pasha R
An issue I recently encountered: USB created with dd or LiveUSB creator
might not boot on EFI systems. The only tool that worked for me was
livecd-iso-to-disk with --efi option (required me to add --format, too, so
it is destructive).


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Ian Malone  wrote:

> On 11 December 2013 22:23, D. Hugh Redelmeier  wrote:
>
> > The LiveUSB creator lets you
>
> > 2) create a persistent store so changes you make on the live
> >system will be there next time you boot.
> >(But I've had some live USBs stop working, perhaps due to this.)
> >
>
> A persistent overlay is used to do this, but it isn't re-writeable: it
> accumulates changes. Once you run out of space to record any more then
> things go wrong. (There's an option in the command line tool, but not
> LiveUSB, to add a home filesystem which is a normal loopback mount.)
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Re: Samsung Kies for Fedora

2013-10-30 Thread Pasha R
May be Kies Air (
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.swift.app.kiesair&hl=en)
will help you.


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Jim  wrote:

>  On 10/29/2013 01:13 AM, Martin S wrote:
>
> On Monday, October 28, 2013 07:42:59 PM Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
>
>  cyanogenmod
>
>  Personally I prefer Omega with the Perseus kernel.
>
> Why do you want Kies? What are you trying to do?
>
> /Martin S
>
>  I'm trying to interface with my Samsung Galaxy Mega  Tablet/Phone. And
> boy it is a Mega .
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Re: mount --move doesn't work

2013-04-04 Thread Pasha R
How do I remove "shared" option? mount --make-private?


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Harald Hoyer  wrote:

> Am 04.04.2013 10:01, schrieb Pasha R:
> > Hi,
> > I'm trying to understand how mount --move can be used. Whenever I use
> it, I get
> > an error "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock..."
> > for example (something I found that supposed to work):
> > mkdir foo bar
> > mount --bind foo foo
> > mount --move foo bar
> >
> > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on foo,
> >missing codepage or helper program, or other error
> >In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
> >dmesg | tail or so
> >
> > What is wrong with it?
> >
> > P.S. I'm using F17, with kernel 3.8.3
> >
> >
>
> The parent mountpoint has to have to the "shared" option removed.
>
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mount --move doesn't work

2013-04-04 Thread Pasha R
Hi,
I'm trying to understand how mount --move can be used. Whenever I use it, I
get an error "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock..."
for example (something I found that supposed to work):
mkdir foo bar
mount --bind foo foo
mount --move foo bar

mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on foo,
   missing codepage or helper program, or other error
   In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
   dmesg | tail or so

What is wrong with it?

P.S. I'm using F17, with kernel 3.8.3
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good video editing tool?

2012-12-25 Thread Pasha R
You can also try pitivi from fedora repositories - it doesn't have many of
the features openshot and kdenlive have, but it is good enough for simple
editing. Also, if you choose avidemux, don't use gtk frontend - in my
experience, it is buggy as hell, while qt frontend is much more stable.


On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Richard Shaw  wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Bill Davidsen  wrote:
> > I am looking for something to edit video and snip a few passages out to
> > save. Something like audacity for video. I am loading avidemux as I type,
> > but the avi format seems to have limitations which are much more
> restrictive
> > than mpg. The OReilly "Multimedia" book is seven years old, and is more
> like
> > a history book than a useful user guide by now.
>
> Back to the original question :)
>
> It appears you already have RPM Fusion repository installed?
>
> That being the case I would recommend Openshot or Kdenlive. They are
> much newer alternatives to Kino which last I checked was really only
> designed for editing DV recordings (no HD).
>
> Openshot is largely python based and has a nice interface and is
> pretty simple to use. Kdenlive (as the name suggests) uses the KDE
> libraries and in KDE fashion is powerful but also more complicated.
> You may want to avoid this if you don't have KDE installed and don't
> want to pull in a bunch of deps.
>
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Re: Clive being blocked by youtube???

2012-11-07 Thread Pasha R
Try using youtube-dl. I can't see videos you specified, since they are
unavailable in my country, too, but with several other videos, clive gives
me error 403, while youtube-dl downloads them just fine.


On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Tim  wrote:

> Allegedly, on or about 07 November 2012, Tim sent:
> > It looks like "clive," itself isn't the HTTP agent, and that it may be
> > possible to monkey around with the go-betweens, that it uses, to do
> > what I've been talking about (with referrers).  The configuration file
> > found at /etc/clive/config looks promising.  But it's 4am, and I'll
> > have another look at it tomorrow.
>
> Looking at the configuration file, clive makes use of curl and quvi.
> Curl did have options for including a referrer, which I tried out, but
> that hasn't helped.
>
> At the moment, I'm not sure what to try, next.
>
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> All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point
> trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the
> public lists.
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Re: OpenOffice.org alongside LibreOffice

2012-10-10 Thread Pasha R
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Temlakos  wrote:
> On 10/09/2012 07:33 AM, Pasha R wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Marko Vojinovic 
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On 03/10/12 19:54, Pasha R wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Is it possible to install OOo alongside LO on F17?
>>>
>>> As a matter of curiosity, why would anyone want to have both OO and LO
>>> installed simultaneously? Aren't they mostly feature-equivalent and/or
>>> compatible?
>>>
>>> Unless you are into research about feature-for-feature comparison between
>>> LO
>>> and OO, what's the point of having them both on the same machine?
>>>
>>> Best, :-)
>>> Marko
>>
>> Mostly, to be on safe side. I prefer to use software provided by
>> distro as much as possible, but sometimes, OOo does better job
>> converting MS office documents, so I prefer it as a backup option.
>
>
> Well, I just converted to LibreOffice when I finally upgraded to F17 from
> F14. And I notice two improvements right away. I run two WordPress sites and
> have signed on as a consulting admin on a third. And when I used to use the
> "Paste from MS Word" option in the WordPress Visual Editor, OpenOffice would
> always paste in some extraneous paragraph-formatting code. And I could never
> turn it off.
>
> LibreOffice does /not/ give me that problem. When I paste LibreOffice text
> into WordPress, I get no extraneous code, nothing I have to go to the HTML
> window to clean out. I get all my headings, attributes, and links just the
> way I laid them out.
>
> Second improvement: clearing formatting shouldn't clear links. OpenOffice
> would always clear the links when I cleared the formatting. LibreOffice does
> not.
>
> And it has all the functions I knew and loved with OpenOffice. Thus far I've
> had no cause to regret the switch.
>

As I said, OOo and LO have different bugs, that's why I would like to
have them both installed. Sometimes, OOo works better, sometimes LO
does the job.
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Re: OpenOffice.org alongside LibreOffice

2012-10-09 Thread Pasha R
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Marko Vojinovic  wrote:
>> On 03/10/12 19:54, Pasha R wrote:
>> > Is it possible to install OOo alongside LO on F17?
>
> As a matter of curiosity, why would anyone want to have both OO and LO
> installed simultaneously? Aren't they mostly feature-equivalent and/or
> compatible?
>
> Unless you are into research about feature-for-feature comparison between LO
> and OO, what's the point of having them both on the same machine?
>
> Best, :-)
> Marko

Mostly, to be on safe side. I prefer to use software provided by
distro as much as possible, but sometimes, OOo does better job
converting MS office documents, so I prefer it as a backup option.
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Re: Disconnect

2012-08-29 Thread Pasha R
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Patrick Dupre  wrote:
> On 2012-08-28 20:19, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> On 08/28/2012 10:49 AM, Kevin Martin wrote:
>>>
>>> On 08/28/2012 09:13 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

 On 2012-08-28 16:04, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, 28. August 2012. 12.15.16 Patrick Dupre wrote:
>>
>> The NetworkNamager provides a disconnect option. I undertand
>>
>> that it
>>
>> can be manager through /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d
>> However, when I disconnect the ppp0 connection, ppp0 is already
>> down (due to the disconnect) and prevents me to collect information
>> through ifconfig.
>>
>> How can I avoid this problem. I wish to collect information of the
>> ppp0 just before it is turned off.
>
>
> Wasn't this covered in another thread already?
>
> If you want to see ifconfig output just before disconnecting, open a
> terminal,
> type "ifconfig", read the output, then disconnect. It's pretty
>>
>> obvious, I
>
> guess.
>
> So, the nonobvious thing is: what precisely is the actual
>>
>> problem you are
>
> trying to solve? Please try to be more precise.
>
 I want it does it automatically!

>>>
>>> The problem I see in what you are trying to do is that there is no
>>
>> way to determine when exactly a disconnect will be taking place.
>>>
>>> If you know exactly when a disconnect will take place then it
>>
>> should be fairly simple to script it but if the disconnects take
>>>
>>> place randomly there is no way you'll be able to script it. You
>>
>> would have to have a program (daemon) running with hooks into the
>>>
>>> network stack that reported statistics at the time of the
>>
>> disconnect and I don't think that's easy to do and certainly would
>> require
>>>
>>> an in depth knowledge of programming at the driver level to do it.
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>> One thing you could try is creating a /sbin/ifdown-pre-local script.
>> You will have to do a compare of $1 with ppp0, and exit if it is a
>> different interface, because it is run before bringing any interface
>> down. I am not sure if Network Manager uses the ifdown script, but
>> you could alway run ifdown ppp0 to disconnect. This will not help if
>> the interface goes down without you telling it to.
>>
> I tried, but /sbin/ifdown-pre-local is never activated
> ifdown ppp0 gives: usage: ifdown 
> ppp0 is not recognized as a device!
>
> I also tried to use /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/20-ifdown
> but it is also never activated.
> I though that /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifdown-ppp
> could do the job, but again it is never activate when I disconnect the
> network.
>
> This is the result of ifconfig ppp0
> ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
>   inet addr:111.169.43.118  P-t-P:10.64.64.64  Mask:255.255.255.255
>   UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:1370 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:1381 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
>   RX bytes:1741245 (1.6 MiB)  TX bytes:94465 (92.2 KiB)
>
>
> Other ideas?

Try to create /etc/ppp/ip-down.local script. I'm not sure if it will
be activated by NM, but worth trying.
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Anonymous samba share

2012-08-14 Thread Pasha R
I'm trying to create an anonymous samba share. I added line "map to
guest = Bad User" to smb.conf and got it to work. But there is still
minor annoyance: whenever someone accesses this share from windows, it
still asks for user and password. Only after entering any garbage in
user name, it allows access. Is there a method to share a dir without
requiring user to enter username/password at all?
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Re: Failed Migration to Linux

2012-08-14 Thread Pasha R
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:09 AM, Mike Flannigan  wrote:
>
>
> On 8/13/2012 12:35 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
>
>
> Well, I'm back to the party after dealing with a death in the family.  Hope
> I'm not to let to help.
>
> Changing the workgroup?  Where would you change it?  In Linux, that's all
> done with SAMBA.  (AFAIK, anyway, I've always used it.) Besides, there's
> more to it that just the workgroup name.  It's not quite as simple as it
> would be if it were two Windows boxes, but then, it's always a little more
> complicated when dealing with differing OSes.
>
>
> I know I started Samba once - or at least I tried to.
> I think it worked, but I still couldn't find the
> place where I could change the Workgroup.
>
>

yum install system-config-samba*

Then run samba configuration. There you can change your workgroup name
and setup shares, users etc. This tool provides basic configuration.
Webmin provides more if you need it. Or, you can mess with smb.conf
manually.
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Re: calibre update in f17?

2012-08-13 Thread Pasha R
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Hakan Koseoglu  wrote:
> On 13 August 2012 14:44, Pasha R  wrote:
>>> Make absolutely sure that mount helper is removed (infamous security
>>> bug) if you are picking up from the calibre site.
>> Which package is it?
> Not sure what you mean.
>
> Release: 0.8.25 apparently has this bug marked as fixed
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre/+bug/885027).
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Thanks. I supposed you mean mount helper package that once existed in fedora.
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Re: calibre update in f17?

2012-08-13 Thread Pasha R
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Hakan Koseoglu  wrote:
> On 13 August 2012 14:02, Pasha R  wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Tom Horsley  wrote:
>>> Just asking because I desperately need to use the
>>> Modify ePub plugin, which won't install on the latest
>>> available f17 calibre :-(.
>> From my experience with F14 (I upgraded to F17 only recently and
>> didn't try it yet), installation from calibre site works great. Just
>> remove your calibre package and follow their install procedure (run
>> single command as root) and enjoy latest and greatest calibre all the
>> time.
>
> Make absolutely sure that mount helper is removed (infamous security
> bug) if you are picking up from the calibre site.
>
Which package is it?
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Re: calibre update in f17?

2012-08-13 Thread Pasha R
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Tom Horsley  wrote:
> Is a newer calibre likely to be released soon for f17,
> or is going to f18 or installing from source the only
> way I'll see a new calibre?
>
> Just asking because I desperately need to use the
> Modify ePub plugin, which won't install on the latest
> available f17 calibre :-(.


From my experience with F14 (I upgraded to F17 only recently and
didn't try it yet), installation from calibre site works great. Just
remove your calibre package and follow their install procedure (run
single command as root) and enjoy latest and greatest calibre all the
time.
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Nautilus can mount home dir shared over smb

2012-07-23 Thread Pasha R
I have 2 F17 computers, one of them shares several dirs over smb. From
the second computer, I can access all shares except home dir with
nautilus - when I try, I get an error "nautilus could not display
smb://10.0.0.1/user". At the same time "smbclient //10.0.0.1/user"
works fine. Is it time for bugzilla, or there is something I missed?

Thanks.
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Re: Make external hard drive accessible to all users

2012-07-19 Thread Pasha R
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Bill Davidsen  wrote:
> Pasha R wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Veli-Pekka Kestilä 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 13.7.2012 23:39, Rick Stevens wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 07/13/2012 01:25 PM, Pasha R issued this missive::
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> F17 introduced a change to how external drives are mounted. They are
>>>>> mounted now exclusively to a logged on user. This is somewhat
>>>>> inconvenient, because iso images stored on external drive is now
>>>>> inaccessible to virtual machines. Is it possible to make drives
>>>>> accessible to everyone?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Add the mount to /etc/fstab and make sure the "auto" option is included.
>>>> Something like:
>>>>
>>>>  /path/to/device/mountpointext4  defaults,auto 0 0
>>>>
>>> I would use UUID as the device identifier so that if device name changes
>>> it
>>> will still mount it correctly.
>>>
>>> blkid /dev/sda1 will get you the uuid and then add:
>>>
>>> UUID=YOUR-UID /mountpointext4  defaults,auto 0 0
>>>
>>
>> If I understand correctly, this implies that device should be
>> available at boot time, which is not always the case, since it is
>> external USB drive.
>>
> Many of us on this list suffer from literalism, meaning we think what you
> said is what you meant. Had you said "removable" rather than "external" it
> might have helped people understand your problem.

Sorry if I misled someone.

>
> In any case, for extN filesystems if you provide a label (tune2fs if you
> didn't create one) it seems to get mounted on /media/label nicely. Don't
Do you use F17 or one of the previous releases? The change of mounting
in /run/media/$USER/label was introduced in F17 and that's what it
actually does.

> know for sure about MS filesystems, but given that my new USB drives always
> have the same name no matter where I plug them in, I suspect the ugly string
> is a label of some kind, and you could use that, perhaps even change it to
> something you like better.
>
> Once you get it mounted in the same place every time, you can use symlinks
> if you don't like the name.
>
My problem is not the place where it is mounted. The problem is that
drive is mounted exclusively for user owning the session, so it is
accessible only by that user or root. But ,for example, virtual
machines that run by default as 'qemu' user, have no access to that
drive, so for example I can't boot them with CD image located on that
drive.
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Gnome panel extensions placement

2012-07-18 Thread Pasha R
Hi all.

Is it possible to control placement of extensions in gnome panel?

TIA.
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Re: Make external hard drive accessible to all users

2012-07-17 Thread Pasha R
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz
 wrote:
> On 14.07.2012 01:58, Rick Stevens wrote:
>> On 07/13/2012 02:37 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz issued this missive::
>>> On 13.07.2012 23:15, Pasha R wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Veli-Pekka Kestilä
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> On 13.7.2012 23:39, Rick Stevens wrote:
>>>>>> On 07/13/2012 01:25 PM, Pasha R issued this missive::
>>>>>>> F17 introduced a change to how external drives are mounted. They are
>>>>>>> mounted now exclusively to a logged on user. This is somewhat
>>>>>>> inconvenient, because iso images stored on external drive is now
>>>>>>> inaccessible to virtual machines. Is it possible to make drives
>>>>>>> accessible to everyone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Add the mount to /etc/fstab and make sure the "auto" option is
>>>>>> included.
>>>>>> Something like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  /path/to/device/mountpointext4  defaults,auto 0 0
>>>>>>
>>>>> I would use UUID as the device identifier so that if device name
>>>>> changes it
>>>>> will still mount it correctly.
>>>>>
>>>>> blkid /dev/sda1 will get you the uuid and then add:
>>>>>
>>>>> UUID=YOUR-UID /mountpointext4  defaults,auto 0 0
>>>>>
>>>> If I understand correctly, this implies that device should be
>>>> available at boot time, which is not always the case, since it is
>>>> external USB drive.
>>>
>>> No, there is not such need.
>>
>> Actually, there is. Pasha is right in that it'll work if the drive is
>> plugged in at boot time as the mounting of items in /etc/fstab is done
>> at boot. In reality, plug/unplug of devices is geared towards a
>> workstation (which is why Fedora behaves the way it does). Pasha's
>> thing is more what you'd expect in a server-oriented environment which
>> is why I suggested what I did.
>>
>
> Sorry but I checked that and I can't agree with you.
>
> I added following line to /etc/fstab:
>
> UUID="25da1476-a0a4-4b87-8afb-8f0ddb128b18"/mntext4
> defaults0 0
>
> The uuid is of my flash card (removable storage). Then when I plugged in
> the card, it hasn't been mounted automatically. I had to issued: mount
> /mnt and umount /mnt manually.
>
> This is exactly what I was talking about. It works in Fedora 17. So you
> can mount shared storage not only at boot time. /etc/fstab is not only
> proceeded at boot time!
>

This is less convenient than in older Fedora versions. I have several
removable drives and also some thumb drives, which I also prefer to
mount system-wide accessible. Now I have to add them all to fstab and
also mount manually. I wonder what was a purpose of the change. Was it
for multi-seat support?
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Re: Make external hard drive accessible to all users

2012-07-17 Thread Pasha R
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Tim  wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 23:25 +0300, Pasha R wrote:
>> F17 introduced a change to how external drives are mounted. They are
>> mounted now exclusively to a logged on user. This is somewhat
>> inconvenient, because iso images stored on external drive is now
>> inaccessible to virtual machines. Is it possible to make drives
>> accessible to everyone?
>
> You didn't say what filing system you were using on that drive.  If it's
> a foreign one, that doesn't have user IDs on it as used by Fedora, then
> I'd expect it to be mounted as you say.  If it's a native one, then I'd
> expect it to be mounted with the usual user & group ownerships.  For
> multiuser external drives, my usual approach was to make sub-directories
> in it that were owned by users on the system, or a shared sub-directory,
> but not to use the root of the drive.
>

All external drives I use formatted as NTFS - this provides
compatibility with windows boxes and allows me to store large files.
Also, I'm the only user of the computer, so, multi-seat security is
irrelevant to me.
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Re: Make external hard drive accessible to all users

2012-07-13 Thread Pasha R
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Veli-Pekka Kestilä  wrote:
> On 13.7.2012 23:39, Rick Stevens wrote:
>>
>> On 07/13/2012 01:25 PM, Pasha R issued this missive::
>>>
>>> F17 introduced a change to how external drives are mounted. They are
>>> mounted now exclusively to a logged on user. This is somewhat
>>> inconvenient, because iso images stored on external drive is now
>>> inaccessible to virtual machines. Is it possible to make drives
>>> accessible to everyone?
>>
>>
>> Add the mount to /etc/fstab and make sure the "auto" option is included.
>> Something like:
>>
>> /path/to/device/mountpointext4  defaults,auto 0 0
>>
> I would use UUID as the device identifier so that if device name changes it
> will still mount it correctly.
>
> blkid /dev/sda1 will get you the uuid and then add:
>
> UUID=YOUR-UID /mountpointext4  defaults,auto 0 0
>

If I understand correctly, this implies that device should be
available at boot time, which is not always the case, since it is
external USB drive.
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Make external hard drive accessible to all users

2012-07-13 Thread Pasha R
F17 introduced a change to how external drives are mounted. They are
mounted now exclusively to a logged on user. This is somewhat
inconvenient, because iso images stored on external drive is now
inaccessible to virtual machines. Is it possible to make drives
accessible to everyone?
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Re: Power-off stupidity remains in Fedora 17

2012-06-13 Thread Pasha R
> Just installed Fedora 17 on VM in VirtualBox and can't undersand what
> stupidity you are talking about. I don't need to hold down alt key. Just
> click on the user name in right top corner and then click on "Power Off..."
> on the botton of the menu.

That's because VirtualBox's "BIOS" does not support suspending. In
that case, gnome shell defaults to power off. But on real boxes which
support suspend (or at least claim to support it), suspend is the
default and you need to hold "Alt" to power off.
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Re: Add to panel not working

2012-06-12 Thread Pasha R
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Frank Elsner
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> anyone with a solution to my problem?
>
> Problem:
>
> Fedora 14, GNOME2 "Add to panel" does nothing, in particular:
>
> Applications -> Sound&Video > Audacity, right click, "Ads this launcher to 
> panel"
> gives no result, the icon doesn't appear on panel
>
> Any idea to fix it?

Try to check if any of the applets you use somehow expanded itself to
fill all available space of the panel. Also, can you create launcher
on second panel? I you can, you may just create another panel, re-add
all applets and launchers to it and delete your old panel.
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Re: Compiling wine i686 on x86_64 system

2012-03-25 Thread Pasha R
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Fedora User  wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:33:35 +0200
> Pasha R  wrote:
>
>> >
>> > Do you mind if I ask why? The 64-bit package works perfectly for
>> > things like TweetDeck and Picassa.
>>
>> Latest 64-bit wine packages require their 32-bit counterparts to be
>> installed, too.
>
> They don't take up much space; They don't compete with each other and
> they are necessary to run 32-bit programs like TweetDeck.
>
> Back around FC-2 or 3 (when it was "FC") I used to customize many, if
> not most, of the packages that I used frequently. I would even
> routinely re-work KDE and I always used a custom kernel.
>
> These days, Fedora has become so complex and dependencies so intricate
> that I avoid custom RPM's at all cost in order not to create issues
> when other packages are updated.

It really depends. I do recompile newest versions for some packages,
when it does not require too much to be updated. Specifically, wine
does not break anything else, but the fact that 32-bit packages can't
be build in the same way as 64-bit packages makes thing to be more
complicated.
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Re: Compiling wine i686 on x86_64 system

2012-03-23 Thread Pasha R
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Fedora User  wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:37:19 +0200
> Pasha R  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to compile latest wine rpm on my F14 64-bit system.
>
> Do you mind if I ask why? The 64-bit package works perfectly for things
> like TweetDeck and Picassa.

Latest 64-bit wine packages require their 32-bit counterparts to be
installed, too.
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Re: Compiling wine i686 on x86_64 system

2012-03-23 Thread Pasha R
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Michael Cronenworth  wrote:
> Pasha R wrote:
>>
>> Are there any additional options I missed?
>
>
> You need to use mock if you want to do this.
>
> mock -r fedora-16-i386 wine.src.rpm
>
> Give it a long time. You'll eventually get your RPMs out.
>
Thanks. That worked.
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Re: Compiling wine i686 on x86_64 system

2012-03-22 Thread Pasha R
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Patrick Lists
 wrote:
> On 22-03-12 12:37, Pasha R wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to compile latest wine rpm on my F14 64-bit system. I
>> grabbed latest SRPM from rawhide, and do rpmbuild --rebuild
>> wine.src.rpm to build x86_64 version. But, when I'm trying to build
>> 32-bit version using rpmbuild --rebuild --target=i686 wine.src.rpm, it
>> starts to compile, but somewhere in the middle I get an error:
>>
>> /usr/bin/ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format
>> elf32-i386 (main.o) to format elf64-x86-64 (acledit.Mr2Fll.o) is not
>> supported
>>
>> Are there any additional options I missed?
>
>
> Perhaps try this (it's one big line):
>
> CC='gcc -m32' CXX='g++ -m32' linux32 rpmbuild -bb --target=i686 wine.spec

This didn't work. The error is generated by winegcc called during
build and it looks like neither CC/CXX nor CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS are being
passed to it.
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Compiling wine i686 on x86_64 system

2012-03-22 Thread Pasha R
Hi,

I'm trying to compile latest wine rpm on my F14 64-bit system. I
grabbed latest SRPM from rawhide, and do rpmbuild --rebuild
wine.src.rpm to build x86_64 version. But, when I'm trying to build
32-bit version using rpmbuild --rebuild --target=i686 wine.src.rpm, it
starts to compile, but somewhere in the middle I get an error:

/usr/bin/ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format
elf32-i386 (main.o) to format elf64-x86-64 (acledit.Mr2Fll.o) is not
supported

Are there any additional options I missed?
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Desktop sharing in GNOME

2011-12-07 Thread Pasha R
I enabled desktop sharing in GNOME. When I connect to a machine all I
get is black screen, unless I run in fallback mode. Is it possible to
share "full" GNOME session?
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Re: The Linus view of GNOME 3.2

2011-12-06 Thread Pasha R
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Misha Shnurapet
 wrote:
> Watch this video, it'll help you make the right choice next time.
>
> [1] http://magazine.redhat.com/2008/09/16/video-the-history-of-fedora/
>

Wow! very enlightening video!
Well, not really, considering the fact I'm using Fedora since FC1 and
RHL before since 7. And I still don't understand what you were trying
to say.
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Re: The Linus view of GNOME 3.2

2011-12-05 Thread Pasha R
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Misha Shnurapet
 wrote:
> 05.12.2011, 17:02, "Reindl Harald" :
>> Am 05.12.2011 08:11, schrieb Misha Shnurapet:
>>
>>>  03.12.2011, 13:48, "Sam Varshavchik" :
>>>>   It's not that stuff has merely changed. It's that the stuff has changed,
>>>>   major parts of existing functionality were removed without having any
>>>>   functional replacements
>>>  There is no arguing that the new GNOME 3 is a significant change.
>>>  But what you had with GNOME 2 was a result of about a decade of 
>>> development.
>>>  You want the same user experience
>>
>> SURELY!
>>
>> nobody forced the developers to throw all away and start from scratch
>> if they decide to do so the should hol d back their crap until it is
>> ready or learn what refactoring is and maintain the existing code
>
> No, they didn't have to keep the code to themselves. That is Open Source, and 
> that is how the software is developed and bug reports gathered. 3rd party 
> developers have been provided with all the necessary tools and the codebase 
> to create what users would further desire. There is no discrimination, 
> neither intentionally built obstacles.
>
> And before GNOME 3.0 was released, there had been loads of tech previews, 
> presentations, alpha and beta builds, blog posts, screenshots, videos and all 
> kinds of other information on the Internet about what the new GNOME 3 was 
> going to be. The project source code repository, the mailing lists and the 
> bugzilla were functional 24/7. Where have you all been when you saw it was 
> going to hurt you?

I was using GNOME 2. You know, there is a tiny group of people called
users, that supposes that in 21st century they may expect OS to be
actually usable even with such distribution as Fedora, without having
to run alphas, betas and previews. Not to mention that even if all
these arguments started even at alpha stage, they would be ignored by
developers just like they are ignored now.
>
> 05.12.2011, 17:32, "Pasha R" :
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Misha Shnurapet
>>  wrote:
>>>>   Gnome 3 came without any kind of a sensors CPU widget.
>>>  GNOME 3 is much more extensible than any other previous version of GNOME, 
>>> it is made to receive many kinds of extensions AND IT WILL.
>>
>> This looks more like marketing-speech.
>
> Bare facts only.
If you say so...

>
>> I haven't yet seen a single
>> extension that is on par in terms of functionality with what I use in
>> GNOME2 for years.
>
> "Noone has yet written" makes you think GNOME 3 isn't capable. Okay.
As I said above, I believe expectation from released software to be
useful doesn't look really unreasonable these days. So all these
"someone will write something someday" looks like poor excuse for me.

>
>>>  04.12.2011, 03:56, "Bill Davidsen" :
>>>>  And scrapping all your old computers because they don't have magic video
>>>>  cards for visual cruft is not in the cards.
>>>  Old hardware receives the classic user experience in the form of fallback 
>>> mode. But if you want the exact GNOME 2 with no option to compromise, the 
>>> attitude you may receive may simply become your payback.
>>
>> Marketing speech again. In GNOME 3.0 fallback mode was a joke. In 3.2
>> it is really closer to GNOME 2, though.
>
> I assume at least one problem is solved for you.
Yes, partially.

>
>>>  04.12.2011, 00:26, "Scott Doty" :
>>>>   ...and I daresay any such _Linux_ distribution won't go very far, when
>>>>   its fearless leader has such a low opinion of _Linus_.
>>>  I absolutely undrestand that you like Linus. But don't you forget that 
>>> Linus is a long time KDE user, and that's a different view on user 
>>> interface and usability. We love GNOME for being GNOME unless switch DE 
>>> easily and stop complaining. Knowing that Linus likes to troll both 
>>> developers and users from time to time, it's funny to see the adherents of 
>>> ye olde GNOME coming up with the quotes to support their point of view, 
>>> especially when those are rather positive.
>>
>> This is not a matter of like or dislike. I don't know him personally
>> to like or dislike him, but he looks like a very sensible person and
>> this is what makes his opinions valuable.
>
> The GNOME developers are none the less sensible people. Especially those most 
> committed. And if you knew how Linus handles arguements, you'd be used to be 
> called names.

Judging by current Gnome-Shell, I would not call them sensible.
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Re: The Linus view of GNOME 3.2

2011-12-05 Thread Pasha R
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Misha Shnurapet
 wrote:
> 03.12.2011, 13:48, "Sam Varshavchik" :
>>  It's not that stuff has merely changed. It's that the stuff has changed,
>>  major parts of existing functionality were removed without having any
>>  functional replacements
>
> There is no arguing that the new GNOME 3 is a significant change. But what 
> you had with GNOME 2 was a result of about a decade of development. You want 
> the same user experience, the same functionality today while it takes months 
> to port all the stuff that you may not even know is to stay in GNOME. I 
> wonder, when the GNOME 2 came out, was it something largely accepted.
Then this functionality should be ported before it is declared as
release and pushed as a full replacement for current working
environment. Or it could be pushed as experimental spin, while
mainline still keeps with GNOME 2.
>
>>  and every time someone points this out, they're
>>  told that they're too stupid to know what's good for them, and this is The
>>  Better Way.
>
> I think you're exaggerating. Noone from the GNOME project could have actually 
> told you that.
I think he isn't. They actually did say it many times. Not in those
exact words, but that is the general attitude of GNOME3 devs.

>
>>  Gnome 3 came without any kind of a sensors CPU widget.
>
> GNOME 3 is much more extensible than any other previous version of GNOME, it 
> is made to receive many kinds of extensions AND IT WILL.
This looks more like marketing-speech. I haven't yet seen a single
extension that is on par in terms of functionality with what I use in
GNOME2 for years.

>
> 04.12.2011, 03:56, "Bill Davidsen" :
>> And scrapping all your old computers because they don't have magic video
>> cards for visual cruft is not in the cards.
>
> Old hardware receives the classic user experience in the form of fallback 
> mode. But if you want the exact GNOME 2 with no option to compromise, the 
> attitude you may receive may simply become your payback.
Marketing speech again. In GNOME 3.0 fallback mode was a joke. In 3.2
it is really closer to GNOME 2, though.
>
> 04.12.2011, 00:26, "Scott Doty" :
>>  ...and I daresay any such _Linux_ distribution won't go very far, when
>>  its fearless leader has such a low opinion of _Linus_.
>
> I absolutely undrestand that you like Linus. But don't you forget that Linus 
> is a long time KDE user, and that's a different view on user interface and 
> usability. We love GNOME for being GNOME unless switch DE easily and stop 
> complaining. Knowing that Linus likes to troll both developers and users from 
> time to time, it's funny to see the adherents of ye olde GNOME coming up with 
> the quotes to support their point of view, especially when those are rather 
> positive.

This is not a matter of like or dislike. I don't know him personally
to like or dislike him, but he looks like a very sensible person and
this is what makes his opinions valuable.
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Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Pasha R
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Daniel B. Thurman  wrote:
> On 09/06/2011 08:49 AM, Pasha R wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Daniel B. Thurman  wrote:
>>> On 09/06/2011 08:08 AM, Pasha R wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman  wrote:
>>>>> For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted
>>>>> Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla
>>>>> does not remove this certificate.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the root CA's cannot be manually removed, Is there
>>>>> a FF rpm that has the fix?
>>>> Uneducated guess: try running FF as root and then following
>>>> instructions by mozilla
>>> I already explained that the instructions given by Mozilla
>>> does not work.  You can try to 'delete' DigiNotar per Mozilla's
>>> instructions, having done that, and going back to check will
>>> show that it still appears. This root CA is a built-in object...
>>> so it cannot be deleted.
>>>
>>> Since there are no updates for end-of-life fedora versions, one
>>> may have to backport the ca-certificates packages, since not
>>> only Firefox is affected but many others such as Seamonkey,
>>> Thunderbird, and many other applications, as Kevin Fenzi wrote.
>>>
>>> Now...  I need to figure out how to do a backport of ca-certificates
>>> pkg so if anyone has any idea how this can be done, I am all ears...
>>>
>>>
>> Instructions (almost) worked for me - CA is still displayed, but if
>> you press "Edit trust" button, you will see, that all checkboxes are
>> unchecked, so it will not be used for anything.
> Why do you say: "(almost) worked" ?
>

Because the certificate is still displayed. Still, I think it is ok if
all trust checkbox are unchecked.
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Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Pasha R
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Daniel B. Thurman  wrote:
> On 09/06/2011 08:08 AM, Pasha R wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman  wrote:
>>> For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted
>>> Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla
>>> does not remove this certificate.
>>>
>>> If the root CA's cannot be manually removed, Is there
>>> a FF rpm that has the fix?
>> Uneducated guess: try running FF as root and then following
>> instructions by mozilla
> I already explained that the instructions given by Mozilla
> does not work.  You can try to 'delete' DigiNotar per Mozilla's
> instructions, having done that, and going back to check will
> show that it still appears. This root CA is a built-in object...
> so it cannot be deleted.
>
> Since there are no updates for end-of-life fedora versions, one
> may have to backport the ca-certificates packages, since not
> only Firefox is affected but many others such as Seamonkey,
> Thunderbird, and many other applications, as Kevin Fenzi wrote.
>
> Now...  I need to figure out how to do a backport of ca-certificates
> pkg so if anyone has any idea how this can be done, I am all ears...
>
>
Instructions (almost) worked for me - CA is still displayed, but if
you press "Edit trust" button, you will see, that all checkboxes are
unchecked, so it will not be used for anything.
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Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Pasha R
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman  wrote:
> For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted
> Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla
> does not remove this certificate.
>
> If the root CA's cannot be manually removed, Is there
> a FF rpm that has the fix?

Uneducated guess: try running FF as root and then following
instructions by mozilla
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Re: Vote to extend F14 security updates

2011-09-02 Thread Pasha R
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Paul Allen Newell  wrote:
> On 9/1/2011 11:43 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> On 09/02/2011 06:44 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
>>> I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
>>> of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could
>>> security updates for F14 be provided until F17 is released?
>>> Hopefully by then gnome3 will be fully baked.
>> The only real way to vote for such issues is to step up and do it.   It
>> is a lot of work to extend the updates cycle for a distribution.
>>
>> Rahul
> Hum ... I find it a difficult proposition to ask users "to step up and
> do it" when the march of progress indicates that it wasn't the users
> that asked for this change. Change may be good, but I think alot of the
> feedback on this forum has shown that the cliche of "not ready for prime
> time" is valid for a significant number of folks hitting Gnome3 in F15.
>
> Full disclosure comment: I have not moved to F15 because of what I have

That would be nice, but I doubt Fedora devs will do it.
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Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Pasha R
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Digimer  wrote:
> On 09/01/2011 04:15 PM, Linda McLeod wrote:
>>
>
> 
>
>> You'll see...
>>
>
> When Red hat 8 (original) came out, I hated Gnome and wanted
> Enlightenment back.
>
> When Windows 95 came out, I hated it's new UI and wanted 3.1 back.
>
> Things change, it's part of computers (and everything else). So when F15
> came out, I decided to let go of my old ways of working and try to
> understand the logic and flow of Gnome 3. Now I love it, and get
> frustrated back on Gnome2 machines.
>
> Also, Linux is all about choice. Gnome 3 is what it is. You are welcome
> to use KDE, XFCE, Ubuntu's Ubiquity or any one of the numerous other
> window managers and/or distros.
>

When Win95 came out it took me less than 1 day to adapt (btw, do you
know that you could use Win3.1-like program manager in Win95). When
RH8 came out, it took  me less than 1 day to adapt. Same for Gnome2,
different versions of KDE/XFCE I tried over time. Gnome3 is the only
exception - used it for few weeks and returned to F14.
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Re: Skype on Fedora 14

2011-06-27 Thread Pasha R
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Mike Dwiggins  wrote:
> On 6/27/2011 12:29 AM, Nicolae Ghimbovschi wrote:
>> Skype works fine for me on Fedora 15 86_x64 and it was working on F14.
>>
>> In case you are using the dynamic version of Skype.
>> I think it needs some extra 32bit libraries to work.
>>
>> as root:
>>
>> yum -y install pulseaudio-libs.i686 alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.i686
>> libv4l.i686   libXv.i686 libXScrnSaver.i686 dbus-qt.i686 qt.i686
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:23, Mike Dwiggins  wrote:
>>> Has anyone had any luck running Skype on Fedora 14 86_x64.  It installs
>>> just fine but, when I try to launch it nothing happens!
>>>
>>> I get nothing in messages or demesg to show it even attempted to
>>> launch!  Is it like Flash and needs to be wrapped in order to work?  If
>>> so how?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
Runs fine for me, too.

Did you try to run it from command line? See if it prints anything.
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Re: Enable Delete key in Nautilus

2011-06-26 Thread Pasha R
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Steven Stern
 wrote:
> On 06/25/2011 11:26 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> On 06/25/2011 06:14 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
>>> How can I tweak Nautilus so the delete key moves files to trash?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ctrl Delete
>>
>
> I don't want to CTRL DEL. I just want to DEL.  Is there a setting for that?
>
http://www.brighthub.com/hubfolio/matthew-casperson/blog/archive/2011/05/15/using-the-del-key-to-delete-files-in-gnome-3.aspx
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Re: Still some mysteie about FC15

2011-06-15 Thread Pasha R
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 06/15/2011 06:42 PM, Pasha R wrote:
>> Just a wild assumption: may be sendmail fork()'d and then parent
>> process exited, so from systemd point of view, it exited.
>
> Then, shouldn't everyone's system be the same?
>
> And, more curious, why this?
>
> [egreshko@meimei etc]$ sudo systemctl restart sendmail.service
> [egreshko@meimei etc]$ systemctl status sendmail.service
> sendmail.service - LSB: start and stop sendmail
>          Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail)
>          Active: active (running) since Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:49:44
> +0800; 3s ago
>         Process: 32434 ExecStop=/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail stop
> (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
>         Process: 3014 ExecReload=/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail reload
> (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
>         Process: 32449 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail start
> (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
>        Main PID: 32462 (sendmail)
>          CGroup: name=systemd:/system/sendmail.service
>                  ├ 32462 sendmail: accepting connections
>                  └ 32471 sendmail: Queue runner@01:00:00 for
> /var/spool/clientmque...
>
>
> Now it does show up running..

As I said, that was only wild assumption. I guess it was wrong :)
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Re: Still some mysteie about FC15

2011-06-15 Thread Pasha R
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 06/15/2011 06:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> On 06/15/2011 03:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> I would like to know then why these show up as they do when their
>>> daemons are running/active
>>>
>>> sendmail.service          loaded active exited
>>> sshd.service                 loaded active running
>> FWIW,  sendmail.service is under running status on my system.   Is
>> sendmail running on your system?  what does systemctl status
>> sendmail.service show?
>>
>> Rahul
>>
>
> sendmail.service - LSB: start and stop sendmail
> Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail)
> Active: active (exited) since Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:58:34 +0800; 3 days ago
> Process: 3014 ExecReload=/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail reload (code=exited,
> status=0/SUCCESS)
> Process: 1062 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail start (code=exited,
> status=0/SUCCESS)
> Main PID: 1237 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
> CGroup: name=systemd:/system/sendmail.service
> ├ 3023 sendmail: Queue runner@01:00:00 for /var/spool/clientmque...
> └ 3026 sendmail: accepting connections
>
> On 2 F15 systems

Just a wild assumption: may be sendmail fork()'d and then parent
process exited, so from systemd point of view, it exited.
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Re: Email problem, evolution asking for unknow password

2011-06-06 Thread Pasha R
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Vincent  wrote:
>> From: Pasha R 
>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Vincent  wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> > I just switched to F15, I had every thing working OK then the log in on
>> > boot up stop appearing, then when I try to log in to evolution the
>> > message appeared: "Enter password to unlock your login keyring the login
>> > keyring did not get unlocked when you logged into the computer" I
>> > entered the user password didn't accept, I try the root PW didn't accept
>> > then I cancel several times and eventually allowed me to get the email.
>> > by the way the user PW is still good because I used after I left the
>> > computer unused for while. Any idea?
>> >
>> > Also what is the intended way to shutdown without going to the terminal
>> > ant type shutdown?
>> > I will appreciate help, thank you
>> > Vinny
>> >
>> > P.S. I can't send email ether. It requires that not know PW
>>
>> evolution looks for password to unlock default keyring, where it (and
>> most Gnome apps) store passwords. Usually, on fresh installation, when
>> some application tries to store password for the first time, it asks
>> you to create password for default keyring.
>> You can try running keyring manager (seahorse in command line) to see
>> if keyring was created. If it exists and you don't know password for
>> it, you can delete it (you will lose any saved passwords, of course)
>> and it should be recreated when evolution tries to save password
>> again.
> which PW, it doesn't give me the opportunity to enter one I look at seahorse 
> and
> there is nothing.
> Is this a new feature on F15 that was implemented through an update?
> Because initially was working like in the previous release it never
> asked for keyring PW, this is the first time that I am having problem.
> I do not need the password for email how can I eliminate it.

This feature (storing passwords in keyring) presents in several
releases already, since F12 at least. Try to create default keyring
without password using seahorse.
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Re: Email problem, evolution asking for unknow password

2011-06-04 Thread Pasha R
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Vincent  wrote:
> Hello,
> I just switched to F15, I had every thing working OK then the log in on
> boot up stop appearing, then when I try to log in to evolution the
> message appeared: "Enter password to unlock your login keyring the login
> keyring did not get unlocked when you logged into the computer" I
> entered the user password didn't accept, I try the root PW didn't accept
> then I cancel several times and eventually allowed me to get the email.
> by the way the user PW is still good because I used after I left the
> computer unused for while. Any idea?
>
> Also what is the intended way to shutdown without going to the terminal
> ant type shutdown?
> I will appreciate help, thank you
> Vinny
>
> P.S. I can't send email ether. It requires that not know PW

evolution looks for password to unlock default keyring, where it (and
most Gnome apps) store passwords. Usually, on fresh installation, when
some application tries to store password for the first time, it asks
you to create password for default keyring.
You can try running keyring manager (seahorse in command line) to see
if keyring was created. If it exists and you don't know password for
it, you can delete it (you will lose any saved passwords, of course)
and it should be recreated when evolution tries to save password
again.

To shutdown, click your user name in right top corner of the screen,
then hold 'Alt' button. Suspend menu item will change to shutdown.
There are some extensions that make shutdown menu item permanently
visible, just search this archive for it.
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Re: Four Tweaks for Gnome 3

2011-06-03 Thread Pasha R
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Olav Vitters  wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 02:04:17PM +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
>> On 3 June 2011 13:19, Olav Vitters  wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 07:57:18AM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
>> >> On 06/03/2011 05:39 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:
>> >> ings.
>> >> >
>>
>> >>   I don't agree - I think the right solution is that extensions vie to
>> >> be accepted as part of Gnome Core - otherwise its a losing battle.
>> >
>> > Extensions are maintained by various people. Further, they're called
>> > extensions, they're not part of GNOME because for some reason they
>> > weren't wanted.
>> >
>> > Arguing that extensions should be part of GNOME shell wouldn't make them
>> > extensions anymore.
>> >
>> > Could you explain why instead of allowing anyone to write extensions,
>> > you want to limit it to the ones with a GNOME Git account? In practice
>> > it'll end up being just the one gnome-shell-extension maintainer? It
>> > does not make sense to me.
>> >
>>
>> There's obviously going to be a mix of extensions that are really
>> extensions (things some people want that most don't really need or
>> want) and extensions that fix things that are wrong at the moment. I'm
>> hoping that the Gnome team are taking notice of some of the work
>> that's being done and their next iteration of Gnome 3.0 is saner.
>
> No worries then; I'm actively responding in Fedora lists (and others)
> while I normally do not use Fedora. Further, various extensions are
> being proposed upstream (more exposure).
> Though I'm not a GNOME shell developer, I do see the amount of feedback
> they get and it is enough. I've noted when stuff has been raised before.
> Note that if there is an issue and it has been raised, it could very
> well be 'outstanding'; seems sometimes there is the assumption
> everything is set in stone and so on.
>
> Seems the rest of your email is not about extensions anymore. I think it
> would have been better as a new thread as it seems unrelated to the
> distribution of extensions.
>
>> I'm currently dividing the things that irritate me into familiarity
>> issues (not long term problems) and fundamental issues/regressions.
>> Some of the later so far (mainly to do with the activities window) in
>> short form:
>> 1. Applications are now presented in a 2D array across the whole
>> screen. This makes looking for something more difficult than scanning
>> down a straight list. Particularly as the icons are really too big.
>> Might look cool on an iPhone, less useful on a 13" widescreen laptop.
>> Haven't dared try it on my desktop pc yet.
>
> I don't have any issues. Search seems nice. This has been raised before
> though.

Search is good for intermediate and advanced users, beginners probably
won't use it. Also, does not always give expected results, especially
if you throw in translations.

>
>> 2. Associated with #1, more mouse-distance and clicks to start an
>> application. Bring up activities window from the dash involves either
>> keystroke or mouse to top left (hard into corner or top left and
>> click) then mouse down to application and click again. The analogous
>> action under Gnome 2 was move to quickstart icon on the panel and
>> click. Using the applications menu involves opening the activities
>> window, moving (1/3 screen) across to select applications and then
>> searching through for the one you want (see #1). If you want to select
>> a category you've got to move across the screen again.
>
> You can make stuff as a favourite. Further, there are various ways to
> make it easier if you want something quick. See also
> https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet.
>
> This has been raised before.

Having a launcher in immediate visibility is much easier for everyone,
especially for children.
Also, I can't find a possibility to add a custom launcher. In Gnome 2
it was easy to drag URL from browser to panel or desktop to create a
launcher for that URL. It was also easy to create customized launcher
for application. I don't see any of these features in Gnome 3.

>
>> 3. Activities screen tends to wait while applications are busy, on a
>> dual core machine. This is horrible. With a busy application I should
>> be able to move across to another one and work in that. If I forget
>> and start the activites screen I'm locked out for a while.
>
> Sounds like a bug. I've seen some issues about GNOME shell slowing down
> (e.g. due to Java bugs and so on). Please file a bug to ensure it gets
> fixed.
>
>> 4. What applications are running? Hard to see if a window has crashed
>> or closed, because the presentation through the dash collapses that
>> information and mixes it with the favourites.
>
> I don't understand this bit. Please just bring it up @ #gnome-design or
> send an email to gnome-shell-list.

I think Ian means that there is nothing like bottom panel, showing
running applications.

>
>> 5. What is the application name at the top right /for/? Clicking on it
>> presents a dr

Re: Four Tweaks for Gnome 3

2011-06-02 Thread Pasha R
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Genes MailLists  wrote:
> On 06/02/2011 02:57 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
>
>>
>> My biggest problem with Gnome 3 is that things that I could do by moving
>> the mouse, and a single mouse click, now needs several moves and several
>> mouse clicks, this severely disrupts my work flow. At the moment I have
>> moved to Xfce (which I aesthetically does not like, but can be made to
>> work the way I am used to), but I will check to see if new extensions
>> etc. turns up that make Gnome 3 usable (for me).
>>
>
>
>  One possible problem with add-on extensions is that there is no
> guarantee they will continue to work as things evolve (much like firefox
> addons break as it evolves) unless they get absorbed into the core Gnome
> shell or the addon developers stay very closely on top of things.
>
>  Then you have the timing problem - when exactly are add-ons updated to
> reflect changes in Gnome core? Before they hit testing - after they hit
> stable?
>
>  Sounds a bit dodgy to me to rely on these unless they get some
> guarantee of working on a forward basis.
>
>  I'm willing to take some risks and bang at things ... but if you're
> not, then at least be cautious with what extensions you rely on for your
> daily activities.
>

My problem with extensions is that there is no easy way to enable and
disable them on the fly and per user. All extensions I tried were
activated for all users when installed and required logoff to be
activated. It is possible to copy extension files to
~/.local/somewhere, but it is even less convenient and still requires
logoff.
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Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers

2011-06-02 Thread Pasha R
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Richard Shaw  wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Alexander Volovics  
> wrote:
>> 1) The rpmfusion (kmod or akmod) install does not get rid of the nouveau
>>   kernel modules as expected. You MUST run dracut to create a new
>>   initramfs file before rebooting. Only then are the nouveau modules
>>   unloaded.
>
> Well, yes and no. It's true that installing the kmod or akmod does not
> run dracut for you but it should add "rdblacklist=nouveau" to the
> kernel line in your grub.conf which should effectively stop nouveau
> from loading unless that kernel option is broken in F15.
>
> If rdblacklist is there (and still functional) then that would explain
> why running dracut didn't help.
>

If I understand correctly, nouveau driver prevents nvidia driver from
loading. This is definitely not my case. In my case nvidia driver is
loaded, and X works fine (in KDE). The problem happens only in Gnome
3.
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Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers

2011-06-02 Thread Pasha R
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Alexander Volovics  wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 10:53:09AM +0300, Pasha R wrote:
>
>> After log in, gnome shell draws its top bar, but after that
>> it simply stops drawing anything on screen. If I launch terminal, I
>> can see that mouse pointer changes when it goes in and out of terminal
>> window, but window itself can not be seen.
>> After sometime it displays "sad terminal" icon with a message "Oh no!
>> Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't
>> recover. Please log out and try again".
>> Are NVidia drivers supported by Gnome 3?
>
> 1) The rpmfusion (kmod or akmod) install does not get rid of the nouveau
>   kernel modules as expected. You MUST run dracut to create a new
>   initramfs file before rebooting. Only then are the nouveau modules
>   unloaded.
>
> 2) There still seems to be something wrong because something akin
>   to what Pasha wrote happens in my case also.
>   I get to the login screen. I can login and the full gnome 3 desktop
>   appears (blue striped wallpaper + top bar with all the necessary
>   entries). But thats it. No activity at all. I can press the windows
>   key nothing happens, position the mouse cursor on the user name and
>   click but no menu drops down, etc. The screen is frozen.
>   I can only logout with ctrl-alt-backspace.
>
> So can their be some kind of conflict between the nvidia drivers and
> the gnome 3 shell. Is it possible that selinux is involved in this
> somehow.
>
> I really would like to solve this because I have wasted enough time
> trying to get this working. Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Alexander

I installed the akmod-nvidia, and now also ran dracut --force to
recreate initramfs (and, obviously, rebooted). It doesn't help. I
installed KDE and it works, so, I guess drivers are working.
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Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers

2011-06-02 Thread Pasha R
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 06/02/2011 03:53 PM, Pasha R wrote:
>> I'm running F15 on Dell Latitude D620 Laptop with NVidia NVS 110M
>> video card. So far I used it with nouveau drivers and while it ran
>> fairly well, I experienced sometimes glitches - screen becoming white
>> or otherwise unreadable. So, I tried to install NVidia drivers from
>> RPMFusion. After log in, gnome shell draws its top bar, but after that
>> it simply stops drawing anything on screen. If I launch terminal, I
>> can see that mouse pointer changes when it goes in and out of terminal
>> window, but window itself can not be seen.
>> After sometime it displays "sad terminal" icon with a message "Oh no!
>> Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't
>> recover. Please log out and try again".
>> Are NVidia drivers supported by Gnome 3?
>> Should I file bug for this? And if yes - to RedHat bugzilla or to Gnome?
>
> I've just installed the nvidia drivers from RPMfusion as well.  Running
> F15-x86_64.  I've got a GeForce GT 230.
>
> After the install, I still had to use dracut to recreate the initramfs
> with the nouveau driver blacklisted.  Thought the install was going to
> take care of that...but it didn't.
>
> Anyway, my reason for doing this was that I wanted to run GNOME 3 in a
> Vbox guest.  In order to do that you need to enable 3D in the display
> section.  The Vbox guest would crash when bringing up the GNOME Shell.
> No problems with the nVidia drivers.
>
> But, to answer your question.  GNOME shell runs just fine on my system.
>
> I normally run KDE and I will have to say the nVidia drivers do perform
> better than nouveau.  The shading is better as well as the desktop
> effects and transitions.  But, nouveau is getting better every release.
>
> Whatever you do, don't file a bugzilla about nVidia drivers on
> Redhat/Fedora.  It is specifically *UNSUPPORTED*.
>

Thanks for the tip. I ran dracut --force and rebooted, but it didn't help.

BTW, I also run F15 with full Gnome3 in VBox on my F14 host machine
with NVidia drivers (GeForce GT 240), and it works fairly well.
I know that NVidia drivers are officially not supported by Fedora, but
it is probably supported configuration for Gnome, so I'll try it
there.
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Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers

2011-06-02 Thread Pasha R
I'm running F15 on Dell Latitude D620 Laptop with NVidia NVS 110M
video card. So far I used it with nouveau drivers and while it ran
fairly well, I experienced sometimes glitches - screen becoming white
or otherwise unreadable. So, I tried to install NVidia drivers from
RPMFusion. After log in, gnome shell draws its top bar, but after that
it simply stops drawing anything on screen. If I launch terminal, I
can see that mouse pointer changes when it goes in and out of terminal
window, but window itself can not be seen.
After sometime it displays "sad terminal" icon with a message "Oh no!
Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't
recover. Please log out and try again".
Are NVidia drivers supported by Gnome 3?
Should I file bug for this? And if yes - to RedHat bugzilla or to Gnome?
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Re: F15 connection sharing

2011-06-01 Thread Pasha R
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Rahul Sundaram  wrote:
> On 05/31/2011 05:42 PM, Pasha R wrote:
>> Is old method working still? System-config-network is now console
>> application and it can't setup DSL connection at all. Am I missing
>> something here? It will be sad if I have to create ifcfg scripts
>> manually.
>
> system-config-network still has a gui
>
> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=264019
>
That's great! So, it is just isn't installed by default?
I hope this will still be available in future releases as well.
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Re: ddclient in systemd

2011-06-01 Thread Pasha R
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 22:38 +0300, Pasha R wrote:
>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
>>  wrote:
>> > Anyone have a recipe for running ddclient (updates dynamic DNS info)
>> > from systemd? The current version is written for the classic init
>> > system. Can I just install it that way?
>> >
>> > poc
>>
>> I think 'chkconfig ddclient on" should work. Also, in
>> /usr/share/doc/ddclient-3.8.0/ they have some sample scripts that,
>> when put in right place (it depends on your connection type) will
>> refresh your address whenever it is changed. There is also file
>> /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/50-ddclient which probably invokes it
>> when address changed by NetworkManager, but I have no idea how it
>> works.
>
> As I say, that's basically the pre-systemd recipe, which may well work.
> I was hoping for something more aligned with F15, but it's not a big
> deal.
>

systemctl actually uses chkconfig for pre-systemd services, so it is
aligned pretty well with F15
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Re: ddclient in systemd

2011-05-31 Thread Pasha R
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
> Anyone have a recipe for running ddclient (updates dynamic DNS info)
> from systemd? The current version is written for the classic init
> system. Can I just install it that way?
>
> poc

I think 'chkconfig ddclient on" should work. Also, in
/usr/share/doc/ddclient-3.8.0/ they have some sample scripts that,
when put in right place (it depends on your connection type) will
refresh your address whenever it is changed. There is also file
/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/50-ddclient which probably invokes it
when address changed by NetworkManager, but I have no idea how it
works.
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Re: F15 connection sharing

2011-05-31 Thread Pasha R
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Hiisi  wrote:
> On 31 May 2011 15:49, Pasha R  wrote:
>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Jan Willies  wrote:
> <--SNIP-->
>> Thanks, for the link, but this won't help even when it will be ready.
>> I don't have wireless connection. I have only one NIC, connected to
>> local home network, and my DSL modem connected to same network. So, I
>> want to connect to internet using PPPoE and share this connection.
>> Unfortunately, NetworkManager never supported such configuration --
>> you can only have one connection over one NIC. Fortunately,
>> system-config-network always supported it. But I can't find it in F15
>> anymore.
>>
>
> Maybe it's better to use old method and disable Network Manager? Then
> you could configure network by scripts.

Is old method working still? System-config-network is now console
application and it can't setup DSL connection at all. Am I missing
something here? It will be sad if I have to create ifcfg scripts
manually.
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Re: F15 connection sharing

2011-05-31 Thread Pasha R
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Jan Willies  wrote:
> 2011/5/29 Pasha R 
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out the connection sharing option in F15. I
>> connect to internet using PPPoE, and, till now, I used "old" network
>> configuration (and disabled network manager) to setup a static IP
>> address and PPPoE connection, and then used masquerading to share
>> connection to other computers on the network.
>> In F15 I can't find a way to make such configuration and also can't
>> find  an option in NM to enable connection sharing for DSL connection.
>> Is there anything I'm missing?
>
> http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/mclasen/2011/05/26/share-your-network-with-gnome-3/

Thanks, for the link, but this won't help even when it will be ready.
I don't have wireless connection. I have only one NIC, connected to
local home network, and my DSL modem connected to same network. So, I
want to connect to internet using PPPoE and share this connection.
Unfortunately, NetworkManager never supported such configuration --
you can only have one connection over one NIC. Fortunately,
system-config-network always supported it. But I can't find it in F15
anymore.
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F15 connection sharing

2011-05-29 Thread Pasha R
I'm trying to figure out the connection sharing option in F15. I
connect to internet using PPPoE, and, till now, I used "old" network
configuration (and disabled network manager) to setup a static IP
address and PPPoE connection, and then used masquerading to share
connection to other computers on the network.
In F15 I can't find a way to make such configuration and also can't
find  an option in NM to enable connection sharing for DSL connection.
Is there anything I'm missing?
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