Re: F29 KDE weirdness
On Friday, January 18, 2019 5:27:47 PM EST Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > TRAMP? https://www.gnu.org/software/tramp/ -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity https://splentity.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F29 KDE weirdness
On Fri, 2019-01-18 at 11:26 -0500, John Harris wrote: > On Friday, January 18, 2019 4:52:45 AM EST Chris Rouch wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 at 06:31, Robert McBroom via users < > > > > users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > Upgraded to F29. On KDE desktop starting EMACS in a privileged command > > > window locks the system. Starting EMACS with sudo locks the system. On > > > XFCE4 normal EMACS access with privilege. > > > > > > Other file managers don't like root but there are times when cli is > > > awkward. > > > > I narrowed this down to xfconf-4.13.6-2.fc29.x86_64. Using an older version > > or removing it entirely makes emacs from sudo work as expected. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1667375 > > > > Regards, > > > > Chris > > That said, please *do not run Emacs as root*, but rather try to use TRAMP and > sudo to access files when you need root permissions. TRAMP? poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F29 KDE weirdness
On Friday, January 18, 2019 4:52:45 AM EST Chris Rouch wrote: > On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 at 06:31, Robert McBroom via users < > > users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > Upgraded to F29. On KDE desktop starting EMACS in a privileged command > > window locks the system. Starting EMACS with sudo locks the system. On > > XFCE4 normal EMACS access with privilege. > > > > Other file managers don't like root but there are times when cli is > > awkward. > > I narrowed this down to xfconf-4.13.6-2.fc29.x86_64. Using an older version > or removing it entirely makes emacs from sudo work as expected. > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1667375 > > Regards, > > Chris That said, please *do not run Emacs as root*, but rather try to use TRAMP and sudo to access files when you need root permissions. -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity https://splentity.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F29 KDE weirdness
On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 at 06:31, Robert McBroom via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Upgraded to F29. On KDE desktop starting EMACS in a privileged command > window locks the system. Starting EMACS with sudo locks the system. On > XFCE4 normal EMACS access with privilege. > > Other file managers don't like root but there are times when cli is > awkward. > I narrowed this down to xfconf-4.13.6-2.fc29.x86_64. Using an older version or removing it entirely makes emacs from sudo work as expected. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1667375 Regards, Chris ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F29 KDE weirdness
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 at 05:22, Robert McBroom via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 12/11/18 3:34 PM, George Avrunin wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 23:29:35 -0500, Robert McBroom via users > > wrote: > > > >> Upgraded to F29. On KDE desktop starting EMACS in a privileged command > >> window locks the system. Starting EMACS with sudo locks the system. On > >> XFCE4 normal EMACS access with privilege. > >> > >> Other file managers don't like root but there are times when cli is > awkward. > > I'm now seeing this, too, with F29, kernel 4.19.7, on KDE. I'm pretty > sure > > doing this has worked as expected after the upgrade to F29, so it's a > recent > > change, but I don't know exactly when it started. I'm seeing this with > two > > different machines (a desktop and a laptop). This is > > emacs-26.1.6.f29.x86_64, in case that matters, and, at the moment, > > plasma-workspace-5.14.4-1.fc29.x86_64 which was upgraded to on December > 5. > > > > It doesn't actually lock the system. I can, for instance get to a > virtual > > terminal and kill the startkde process to get back to roughly where I > was. > > And I can still see the cursor and move it around (though it becomes > invisible when it's over the konsole window from which I launched emacs), > but except for being able to use, e.g., control-F3, to get to a console, I > don't seem to be able to interact with the open windows or switch to > another virtual desktop (cursor won't cross the desktop boundary). > > > > The command "emacs -nw" seems to work fine. On kernel 4.19.6 > > > >George > > > > > Same here on a desktop and a laptop. Switched to gnome-session and have > access. On kernel 4.19.6 > > and plasma-workspace-5.14.4-1 trouble. > > Robert > > I'm seeing this too, but only on an IMAC with a radeon graphics card. Kernel is 4.19.5-300.fc29.x86_64. My laptop with an intel/nvidia hybrid card works fine. I found that killing emacs from a virtual terminal was enough to get the desktop working again. Chris ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F29 KDE weirdness
On 12/11/18 3:34 PM, George Avrunin wrote: On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 23:29:35 -0500, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Upgraded to F29. On KDE desktop starting EMACS in a privileged command window locks the system. Starting EMACS with sudo locks the system. On XFCE4 normal EMACS access with privilege. Other file managers don't like root but there are times when cli is awkward. I'm now seeing this, too, with F29, kernel 4.19.7, on KDE. I'm pretty sure doing this has worked as expected after the upgrade to F29, so it's a recent change, but I don't know exactly when it started. I'm seeing this with two different machines (a desktop and a laptop). This is emacs-26.1.6.f29.x86_64, in case that matters, and, at the moment, plasma-workspace-5.14.4-1.fc29.x86_64 which was upgraded to on December 5. It doesn't actually lock the system. I can, for instance get to a virtual terminal and kill the startkde process to get back to roughly where I was. And I can still see the cursor and move it around (though it becomes invisible when it's over the konsole window from which I launched emacs), but except for being able to use, e.g., control-F3, to get to a console, I don't seem to be able to interact with the open windows or switch to another virtual desktop (cursor won't cross the desktop boundary). The command "emacs -nw" seems to work fine. On kernel 4.19.6 George Same here on a desktop and a laptop. Switched to gnome-session and have access. On kernel 4.19.6 and plasma-workspace-5.14.4-1 trouble. Robert ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F29 KDE weirdness
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 23:29:35 -0500, Robert McBroom via users wrote: > Upgraded to F29. On KDE desktop starting EMACS in a privileged command > window locks the system. Starting EMACS with sudo locks the system. On > XFCE4 normal EMACS access with privilege. > > Other file managers don't like root but there are times when cli is awkward. I'm now seeing this, too, with F29, kernel 4.19.7, on KDE. I'm pretty sure doing this has worked as expected after the upgrade to F29, so it's a recent change, but I don't know exactly when it started. I'm seeing this with two different machines (a desktop and a laptop). This is emacs-26.1.6.f29.x86_64, in case that matters, and, at the moment, plasma-workspace-5.14.4-1.fc29.x86_64 which was upgraded to on December 5. It doesn't actually lock the system. I can, for instance get to a virtual terminal and kill the startkde process to get back to roughly where I was. And I can still see the cursor and move it around (though it becomes invisible when it's over the konsole window from which I launched emacs), but except for being able to use, e.g., control-F3, to get to a console, I don't seem to be able to interact with the open windows or switch to another virtual desktop (cursor won't cross the desktop boundary). The command "emacs -nw" seems to work fine. George pgpyTNlagcajR.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F29 KDE weirdness
On 12/9/18 12:29 PM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: > Upgraded to F29. On KDE desktop starting EMACS in a privileged command window > locks the > system. Starting EMACS with sudo locks the system. On > XFCE4 normal EMACS access with privilege. > > Other file managers don't like root but there are times when cli is awkward. No problems here. Fully updated F29 system. Starting emacs after "su -" or "sudo emacs filename" works just fine. No lockups. -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F29 KDE weirdness
On 12/08/2018 09:29 PM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Upgraded to F29. On KDE desktop starting EMACS in a privileged command window locks the system. Starting EMACS with sudo locks the system. On XFCE4 normal EMACS access with privilege. Other file managers don't like root but there are times when cli is awkward. There are several GUI programs that prompt for a password then open a program with root access. I use Xfce and beesu, and I know that both Gnome KDE have their equivalents. On my panel, I have a launcher that runs this: beesu - thunar for those rare occasions where a CLI would be too awkward, but I need root. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
F29 KDE weirdness
Upgraded to F29. On KDE desktop starting EMACS in a privileged command window locks the system. Starting EMACS with sudo locks the system. On XFCE4 normal EMACS access with privilege. Other file managers don't like root but there are times when cli is awkward. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
