Re: F32 Install hangs on Lenovo x140e

2020-05-06 Thread Richard Shaw 
On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 7:19 AM Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

>
> But the video part looks important but I have lost track of where to add
> kernel options in the boot.  EFI really is different from the old days.  So
> where do I put:
>
> "The HD8330 video device on this laptop is part of the Sea Islands family
> (Kabini chipset) of AMD GPUs. As the new AMDGPU kernel driver is now needed
> as of Linux kernel 4.13 for GL support, adding
>
> `amdgpu.cik_support=1 radeon.cik_support=0`
>
> kernel parameters is required to boot with full OpenGL support. "
>

Not sure if that applies then (but worth a try), as Fedora is on 5.6
kernel. I have an HP with AMD A8 and onboard Kabini based graphics and
haven't had any issues running or installing Fedora for several releases.

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: F32 Install hangs on Lenovo x140e

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz 

George,

On 5/6/20 7:00 AM, George N. White III wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 at 11:23, Robert Moskowitz > wrote:


I downloaded the F32 Server netinstall CD.

I wanted a F32 Workstation netinstall, but I could not find one.  :(

The system is a Lenovo x140e that I got used on ebay with no HD
and only
4GB memory.  I pulled an SSD that had F28 on it and added 4GB memory.

this system will not boot as is.


At my former work I sometimes needed a laptop for some simple task.  
There

were usually several old unloved and unwanted laptops sitting around, but
the first step was to run a memory test.   While that was running I 
could google

for reports from users who had installed linux on that model, BIOS updates
and diagnostics from the vendor, etc.   On models where it wasn't too 
difficult
I would to open the case to clean dust off heatsinks, reseat 
connectors and

memory, and check for damaged components.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D68fAx4eSns shows how to open the
case.

Some laptop models had well-known failure modes, some with 
easy workarounds,
others not repairable.  The advantage of modern manufacturing is that 
many

problems are very reproducible across a particular model.


I put the CD in a USB DVD/CD device, turn on the computer, press
F12 for
boot menu and select the CD.

I get the Install 32 or check media option and select Install.

After a bit of time it goes back to the system boot message
offering to
start F28 (which won't work anyway).

What do I do to figure out what is wrong?

I pulled an old Lenovo x120e and did the same start up.  I got
into the
install menu for F32, so I don't think it is the CD media.

any one have experience with the x140e?  Anyone can give me some
suggestions?


https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X140e




thanks for this URL.  This is my 2nd x140e; first one was for F30. And I 
learned the hard way about the broadcom-wl driver.


So far this has helped me turn off bluetooth that I never use.

But the video part looks important but I have lost track of where to add 
kernel options in the boot.  EFI really is different from the old days.  
So where do I put:


"The HD8330 video device on this laptop is part of the Sea Islands 
family (Kabini chipset) of AMD GPUs. As the new AMDGPU kernel driver is 
now needed as of Linux kernel 4.13 for GL support, adding


`amdgpu.cik_support=1 radeon.cik_support=0`

kernel parameters is required to boot with full OpenGL support. "

thanks!

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Re: F32 Install hangs on Lenovo x140e

2020-05-06 Thread George N. White III 
On Tue, 5 May 2020 at 11:23, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

> I downloaded the F32 Server netinstall CD.
>
> I wanted a F32 Workstation netinstall, but I could not find one.  :(
>
> The system is a Lenovo x140e that I got used on ebay with no HD and only
> 4GB memory.  I pulled an SSD that had F28 on it and added 4GB memory.
>
> this system will not boot as is.
>

At my former work I sometimes needed a laptop for some simple task.  There
were usually several old unloved and unwanted laptops sitting around, but
the first step was to run a memory test.   While that was running I could
google
for reports from users who had installed linux on that model, BIOS updates
and diagnostics from the vendor, etc.   On models where it wasn't too
difficult
I would to open the case to clean dust off heatsinks, reseat connectors and
memory, and check for damaged components.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D68fAx4eSns  shows how to open the
case.

Some laptop models had well-known failure modes, some with
easy workarounds,
others not repairable.  The advantage of modern manufacturing is that many
problems are very reproducible across a particular model.


>
> I put the CD in a USB DVD/CD device, turn on the computer, press F12 for
> boot menu and select the CD.
>
> I get the Install 32 or check media option and select Install.
>
> After a bit of time it goes back to the system boot message offering to
> start F28 (which won't work anyway).
>
> What do I do to figure out what is wrong?
>
> I pulled an old Lenovo x120e and did the same start up.  I got into the
> install menu for F32, so I don't think it is the CD media.
>
> any one have experience with the x140e?  Anyone can give me some
> suggestions?
>
>
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X140e

-- 
George N. White III
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Fixed - Re: F32 Install hangs on Lenovo x140e

2020-05-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz 

I reseated the memory.

Sheesh.

On 5/5/20 10:18 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I downloaded the F32 Server netinstall CD.

I wanted a F32 Workstation netinstall, but I could not find one. :(

The system is a Lenovo x140e that I got used on ebay with no HD and 
only 4GB memory.  I pulled an SSD that had F28 on it and added 4GB 
memory.


this system will not boot as is.

I put the CD in a USB DVD/CD device, turn on the computer, press F12 
for boot menu and select the CD.


I get the Install 32 or check media option and select Install.

After a bit of time it goes back to the system boot message offering 
to start F28 (which won't work anyway).


What do I do to figure out what is wrong?

I pulled an old Lenovo x120e and did the same start up.  I got into 
the install menu for F32, so I don't think it is the CD media.


any one have experience with the x140e?  Anyone can give me some 
suggestions?


Bob
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Re: F32 Install hangs on Lenovo x140e

2020-05-05 Thread ITwrx 
On 5/5/20 9:18 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I downloaded the F32 Server netinstall CD.
>
> I wanted a F32 Workstation netinstall, but I could not find one.  :(
>
> The system is a Lenovo x140e that I got used on ebay with no HD and
> only 4GB memory.  I pulled an SSD that had F28 on it and added 4GB
> memory.
>
> this system will not boot as is.

why not?  It makes me wonder if you have hardware or hardware config
problem (bios settings) already at this stage.

>
> I put the CD in a USB DVD/CD device, turn on the computer, press F12
> for boot menu and select the CD.
>
> I get the Install 32 or check media option and select Install.
maybe select "check media and install" instead, if you are having
problems installing.
>
> After a bit of time it goes back to the system boot message offering
> to start F28 (which won't work anyway).
>
> What do I do to figure out what is wrong?
>
> I pulled an old Lenovo x120e and did the same start up.  I got into
> the install menu for F32, so I don't think it is the CD media.
so, it sounds like hardware/hardware config. Maybe that ssd is borked.
Maybe the bios is setup wrong. Maybe the laptop has other hardware
problems that caused it to be sold in the first place. Will a live cd
run? Maybe you could get some info/diagnostics that way?
>
> any one have experience with the x140e?  
no
> Anyone can give me some suggestions?
>
> Bob
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F32 Install hangs on Lenovo x140e

2020-05-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz 

I downloaded the F32 Server netinstall CD.

I wanted a F32 Workstation netinstall, but I could not find one.  :(

The system is a Lenovo x140e that I got used on ebay with no HD and only 
4GB memory.  I pulled an SSD that had F28 on it and added 4GB memory.


this system will not boot as is.

I put the CD in a USB DVD/CD device, turn on the computer, press F12 for 
boot menu and select the CD.


I get the Install 32 or check media option and select Install.

After a bit of time it goes back to the system boot message offering to 
start F28 (which won't work anyway).


What do I do to figure out what is wrong?

I pulled an old Lenovo x120e and did the same start up.  I got into the 
install menu for F32, so I don't think it is the CD media.


any one have experience with the x140e?  Anyone can give me some 
suggestions?


Bob
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