Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

2023-06-16 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:40 AM ogio.spam  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop ready.
> Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is not
> showing this behaviour.
>
> The good user is a new fresh user, the not working is a user with the home
> directory copied from an old Fedora with KDE.
>
> I worked on startup, removing all of them, but the problem is still there.
>
> There is a way to check what is appening after enter password?
>

I have seen slow startup (using zsh) with conda initialization and old zsh
autocompletion.
in .zshrc.

You can try temporarily swapping `.profile`, `.bash_profile`, and `bashrc`
with those from
a newly created account to see if the slowdown moves with one of those
files.

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Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

2023-06-15 Thread Jon LaBadie

Seems like a "loginchart" analogous to "bootchart" would be
useful for situations like this.

jl

On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 09:40:49PM +0930, Tim via users wrote:

On Wed, 2023-06-14 at 15:38 +0200, ogio.spam wrote:

I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop ready.
Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is not showing 
this behaviour.


Does that user use network shares?  (For their homespace, or for
something within it.)

Does the login restore the previous session, and is waiting for an
application to respond?



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Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

2023-06-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 09:25:23 -0400
Tom Horsley wrote:

> systemctl --user --list-unit-files

Wups, list-unit-files (no -- in front of it).
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Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

2023-06-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 09:02:55 +0200
ogio.spam wrote:

> Also services are not related to specific user, so I think it's not a
> good way to start.

systemctl --user --list-unit-files

There are indeed per-user services :-).
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Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

2023-06-15 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2023-06-14 at 15:38 +0200, ogio.spam wrote:
> I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop ready.
> Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is not 
> showing this behaviour.

Does that user use network shares?  (For their homespace, or for
something within it.)

Does the login restore the previous session, and is waiting for an
application to respond?
 
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Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

2023-06-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-06-15 at 09:02 +0200, ogio.spam wrote:
> Il giorno mer, 14/06/2023 alle 08.15 -0700, stan via users ha
> scritto:
> > On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:38:46 +0200
> > "ogio.spam"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop
> > > ready.
> > > Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user
> > > is
> > > not
> > > showing this behaviour.
> > > 
> > > The good user is a new fresh user, the not working is a user with
> > > the
> > > home directory copied from an old Fedora with KDE.
> > > 
> > > I worked on startup, removing all of them, but the problem is
> > > still
> > > there.
> > > 
> > > There is a way to check what is appening after enter password?
> > 
> > I don't know of a way.  But, what you could do is create a new
> > user,
> > and validate that login is fast.  Then, one by one move over the
> > configuration items from the failing user to the new user's home
> > directory.  One of them will be the cause of this.  It might be in
> > the
> > .bashrc or .bash_profile files if they are complex, so you would
> > have
> > to
> > comment lines to narrow it down.
> I have a lot of data in my home that it's not a good idea to start
> transfer things to a new user.
> I can survive to the delay (5-10 sec) but I would like to identify
> what
> is missing (so I can evenually remove o install it if I really need).
> bashrc and profile are related to console, and in this case the
> problem
> is before to gain a working desktop session.
> > 
> > The delay is probably that you are requesting something that is
> > timing
> > out.  That might be a service that no longer exists.
> Also services are not related to specific user, so I think it's not a
> good way to start.
> Maybe I'm wrong, let me know what you think about.

The Fedora KDE list may be more useful for discussing this. I always
suggest posting KDE-related questions there.

poc
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Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

2023-06-15 Thread ogio.spam
Il giorno mer, 14/06/2023 alle 08.15 -0700, stan via users ha scritto:
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:38:46 +0200
> "ogio.spam"  wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop
> > ready.
> > Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is
> > not
> > showing this behaviour.
> > 
> > The good user is a new fresh user, the not working is a user with
> > the
> > home directory copied from an old Fedora with KDE.
> > 
> > I worked on startup, removing all of them, but the problem is still
> > there.
> > 
> > There is a way to check what is appening after enter password?
> 
> I don't know of a way.  But, what you could do is create a new user,
> and validate that login is fast.  Then, one by one move over the
> configuration items from the failing user to the new user's home
> directory.  One of them will be the cause of this.  It might be in
> the
> .bashrc or .bash_profile files if they are complex, so you would have
> to
> comment lines to narrow it down.
I have a lot of data in my home that it's not a good idea to start
transfer things to a new user.
I can survive to the delay (5-10 sec) but I would like to identify what
is missing (so I can evenually remove o install it if I really need).
bashrc and profile are related to console, and in this case the problem
is before to gain a working desktop session.
> 
> The delay is probably that you are requesting something that is
> timing
> out.  That might be a service that no longer exists.
Also services are not related to specific user, so I think it's not a
good way to start.
Maybe I'm wrong, let me know what you think about.

Regards
 Ogio
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Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

2023-06-14 Thread Felix Miata
ogio.spam composed on 2023-06-14 15:38 (UTC+0200):

> I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop ready.
> Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is not
> showing this behaviour.

> The good user is a new fresh user, the not working is a user with the
> home directory copied from an old Fedora with KDE.

> I worked on startup, removing all of them, but the problem is still
> there.

> There is a way to check what is appening after enter password?

First thing to try any time Plasma gets weird, is while logged out of it, delete
the entire content of ~/.cache/. First login following will take a bit longer
while its content gets automatically recreated, but subsequents may be much 
better.
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Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

2023-06-14 Thread Barry


> On 14 Jun 2023, at 14:40, ogio.spam  wrote:
> 
> There is a way to check what is appening after enter password?

I would look in the journal, both system and user in the hope of finding a clue.
Also check dmesg.

journalctl —failed
journalctl —since=hh:mm
journalctl —user —since=hh:mm

Where hh:mm is a time before you started to login.

Barry

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Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

2023-06-14 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:38:46 +0200
"ogio.spam"  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop ready.
> Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is not
> showing this behaviour.
> 
> The good user is a new fresh user, the not working is a user with the
> home directory copied from an old Fedora with KDE.
> 
> I worked on startup, removing all of them, but the problem is still
> there.
> 
> There is a way to check what is appening after enter password?

I don't know of a way.  But, what you could do is create a new user,
and validate that login is fast.  Then, one by one move over the
configuration items from the failing user to the new user's home
directory.  One of them will be the cause of this.  It might be in the
.bashrc or .bash_profile files if they are complex, so you would have to
comment lines to narrow it down.

The delay is probably that you are requesting something that is timing
out.  That might be a service that no longer exists.
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Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

2023-06-14 Thread ogio.spam
Hi all,
I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop ready.
Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is not
showing this behaviour.

The good user is a new fresh user, the not working is a user with the
home directory copied from an old Fedora with KDE.

I worked on startup, removing all of them, but the problem is still
there.

There is a way to check what is appening after enter password?

Tnx
 Ogio
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