Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE
On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:40 AM ogio.spam wrote: > Hi all, > I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop ready. > Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is not > showing this behaviour. > > The good user is a new fresh user, the not working is a user with the home > directory copied from an old Fedora with KDE. > > I worked on startup, removing all of them, but the problem is still there. > > There is a way to check what is appening after enter password? > I have seen slow startup (using zsh) with conda initialization and old zsh autocompletion. in .zshrc. You can try temporarily swapping `.profile`, `.bash_profile`, and `bashrc` with those from a newly created account to see if the slowdown moves with one of those files. -- George N. White III ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE
Seems like a "loginchart" analogous to "bootchart" would be useful for situations like this. jl On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 09:40:49PM +0930, Tim via users wrote: On Wed, 2023-06-14 at 15:38 +0200, ogio.spam wrote: I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop ready. Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is not showing this behaviour. Does that user use network shares? (For their homespace, or for something within it.) Does the login restore the previous session, and is waiting for an application to respond? -- Jon H. LaBadie jo...@jgcomp.com ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE
On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 09:25:23 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > systemctl --user --list-unit-files Wups, list-unit-files (no -- in front of it). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE
On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 09:02:55 +0200 ogio.spam wrote: > Also services are not related to specific user, so I think it's not a > good way to start. systemctl --user --list-unit-files There are indeed per-user services :-). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE
On Wed, 2023-06-14 at 15:38 +0200, ogio.spam wrote: > I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop ready. > Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is not > showing this behaviour. Does that user use network shares? (For their homespace, or for something within it.) Does the login restore the previous session, and is waiting for an application to respond? -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.90.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu May 4 15:21:22 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE
On Thu, 2023-06-15 at 09:02 +0200, ogio.spam wrote: > Il giorno mer, 14/06/2023 alle 08.15 -0700, stan via users ha > scritto: > > On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:38:46 +0200 > > "ogio.spam" wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop > > > ready. > > > Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user > > > is > > > not > > > showing this behaviour. > > > > > > The good user is a new fresh user, the not working is a user with > > > the > > > home directory copied from an old Fedora with KDE. > > > > > > I worked on startup, removing all of them, but the problem is > > > still > > > there. > > > > > > There is a way to check what is appening after enter password? > > > > I don't know of a way. But, what you could do is create a new > > user, > > and validate that login is fast. Then, one by one move over the > > configuration items from the failing user to the new user's home > > directory. One of them will be the cause of this. It might be in > > the > > .bashrc or .bash_profile files if they are complex, so you would > > have > > to > > comment lines to narrow it down. > I have a lot of data in my home that it's not a good idea to start > transfer things to a new user. > I can survive to the delay (5-10 sec) but I would like to identify > what > is missing (so I can evenually remove o install it if I really need). > bashrc and profile are related to console, and in this case the > problem > is before to gain a working desktop session. > > > > The delay is probably that you are requesting something that is > > timing > > out. That might be a service that no longer exists. > Also services are not related to specific user, so I think it's not a > good way to start. > Maybe I'm wrong, let me know what you think about. The Fedora KDE list may be more useful for discussing this. I always suggest posting KDE-related questions there. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE
Il giorno mer, 14/06/2023 alle 08.15 -0700, stan via users ha scritto: > On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:38:46 +0200 > "ogio.spam" wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop > > ready. > > Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is > > not > > showing this behaviour. > > > > The good user is a new fresh user, the not working is a user with > > the > > home directory copied from an old Fedora with KDE. > > > > I worked on startup, removing all of them, but the problem is still > > there. > > > > There is a way to check what is appening after enter password? > > I don't know of a way. But, what you could do is create a new user, > and validate that login is fast. Then, one by one move over the > configuration items from the failing user to the new user's home > directory. One of them will be the cause of this. It might be in > the > .bashrc or .bash_profile files if they are complex, so you would have > to > comment lines to narrow it down. I have a lot of data in my home that it's not a good idea to start transfer things to a new user. I can survive to the delay (5-10 sec) but I would like to identify what is missing (so I can evenually remove o install it if I really need). bashrc and profile are related to console, and in this case the problem is before to gain a working desktop session. > > The delay is probably that you are requesting something that is > timing > out. That might be a service that no longer exists. Also services are not related to specific user, so I think it's not a good way to start. Maybe I'm wrong, let me know what you think about. Regards Ogio ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE
ogio.spam composed on 2023-06-14 15:38 (UTC+0200): > I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop ready. > Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is not > showing this behaviour. > The good user is a new fresh user, the not working is a user with the > home directory copied from an old Fedora with KDE. > I worked on startup, removing all of them, but the problem is still > there. > There is a way to check what is appening after enter password? First thing to try any time Plasma gets weird, is while logged out of it, delete the entire content of ~/.cache/. First login following will take a bit longer while its content gets automatically recreated, but subsequents may be much better. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE
> On 14 Jun 2023, at 14:40, ogio.spam wrote: > > There is a way to check what is appening after enter password? I would look in the journal, both system and user in the hope of finding a clue. Also check dmesg. journalctl —failed journalctl —since=hh:mm journalctl —user —since=hh:mm Where hh:mm is a time before you started to login. Barry ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:38:46 +0200 "ogio.spam" wrote: > Hi all, > I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop ready. > Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is not > showing this behaviour. > > The good user is a new fresh user, the not working is a user with the > home directory copied from an old Fedora with KDE. > > I worked on startup, removing all of them, but the problem is still > there. > > There is a way to check what is appening after enter password? I don't know of a way. But, what you could do is create a new user, and validate that login is fast. Then, one by one move over the configuration items from the failing user to the new user's home directory. One of them will be the cause of this. It might be in the .bashrc or .bash_profile files if they are complex, so you would have to comment lines to narrow it down. The delay is probably that you are requesting something that is timing out. That might be a service that no longer exists. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE
Hi all, I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop ready. Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is not showing this behaviour. The good user is a new fresh user, the not working is a user with the home directory copied from an old Fedora with KDE. I worked on startup, removing all of them, but the problem is still there. There is a way to check what is appening after enter password? Tnx Ogio ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue