Re: booting and NVME on older motherboards
On 10/24/18 3:55 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 10/24/18 2:11 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Is copying the /boot and /boot/efi partitions to the sata drive and editing /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg to point the /dev/sda instead of /dev/nvme0n1 all that needs doing? No hidden firmare on the bootable drive like in the bios days? Is there any other file that had the drive's pathname embedded? The path to the bootloader lives in UEFI NVRAM. You'd need to add it with efibootmgr. If you're not already familiar with that tool, it's a lot easier to simply reinstall and put /boot and /boot/efi where you want them at that point. If you still have the install log files in /var/log/anaconda, you can do a search for efibootmgr to see the command used to setup the boot entry. You can modifiy it as necessary and run it on the new computer. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: booting and NVME on older motherboards
On 10/24/18 2:11 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Is copying the /boot and /boot/efi partitions to the sata drive and editing /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg to point the /dev/sda instead of /dev/nvme0n1 all that needs doing? No hidden firmare on the bootable drive like in the bios days? Is there any other file that had the drive's pathname embedded? The path to the bootloader lives in UEFI NVRAM. You'd need to add it with efibootmgr. If you're not already familiar with that tool, it's a lot easier to simply reinstall and put /boot and /boot/efi where you want them at that point. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
booting and NVME on older motherboards
Has anyone gone through the exercise of setting up the boot environment for booting fedora on a system with an NVME drive where the motherboard UEFI code doesn't understand NVME disks? I did a clean install of fedora to the nvme and let anacondia do its thing. The only non-default item was using real partitions instead of LVM. Rebooting after the installation showed me the problem. The motherboard's UEFI firmware didn't see the NVME disk at all. Clearly I need to have the early stages of booting grab files from a sata drive. Is copying the /boot and /boot/efi partitions to the sata drive and editing /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg to point the /dev/sda instead of /dev/nvme0n1 all that needs doing? No hidden firmare on the bootable drive like in the bios days? Is there any other file that had the drive's pathname embedded? -wolfgang ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 07/11/2012 12:35 AM, Gary Hodder wrote: >> >> Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with >> Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. > > > The software quality on current-generation Gigabyte and MSI motherboards is > much better than ASUS motherboard software. I wouldn't hesitate to > recommend Gigabyte, having tested several boards in the last few months. > -- I have been using its sibling, GA-990FAX-UD5, for about 3-4 months now and it runs great. :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On 07/11/2012 12:35 AM, Gary Hodder wrote: Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. The software quality on current-generation Gigabyte and MSI motherboards is much better than ASUS motherboard software. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Gigabyte, having tested several boards in the last few months. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Peter Gueckel wrote: > One other thing I should add to the considerations one ought to keep in mind > when > buying a motherboard is the quality of the BIOS program. > > With the ASUS and ASRock motherboards I have had, I noticed that the BIOS > setup > program was very difficult and ambiguous to understand. I got the impression > that > the settings were all poor translations and often left me puzzled. > > With the Intel motherboard, I was greeted by a menu composed of very > professional > and well-written settings and explanations. I find good and unambiguous use of > English in the manuals and setup to be a factor worth considering. > As much as I hate my latest ASUS board, due to the lack of LAN drivers in Linux and the lack of a PCI slot on the board, I must say that the BIOS is terrific. When first opens it give one an idiot-designed "simple BIOS" or whatnot, but once entered into the Advanced mode it is terrific. I even updated the BIOS from within BIOS as it can read USB sticks and upload the new firmware from there. So no DOS needed for a BIOS update. That said, I have another complaint about the latest ASUS boards: no boot from USB! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: > I've got an Intel D865GBFL that I purchase from Daktech in March 2006. > It still runs, but I'm stuck on F14. > I haven't been able to get F16 to install or F17 to run right. > It uses a pentium 4, so some think its ancient. Might that is not the case here but I have the same motherboard and F16 (and other distro with newer kernel) runs only with kernel parameter processor.nocst=1 otherwise I got crash at initial ramdisk loading. I do not really know why but that extra parameter helps. F17 runs fine here without that parameter. Bye, a -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012, fred smith wrote: did I really type "PAT"?? man, I gotta go back and read these things before I send 'em out. I mean "PAE"! :( pae is also in my flags list. My F14 kernel is a PAE kernel. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "On Monday, I'm gonna have to tell my kindergarten class, whom I teach not to run with scissors, that my fiance ran me through with a broadsword." -- Lily -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On 07/12/2012 12:05 PM, Suvayu Ali issued this missive:: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 05:35:40PM +1000, Gary Hodder wrote: Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. We're a big Linux shop here and we used Dells, SuperMicro, HP and IBM. Personally, I've used a lot of boards with differing results, mostly good. Currently I have a Shuttle FN78S (Athlon X2) and an MSI 785GTM-E45 (MS-7549) (AMD Phenom X4). Both work quite well, although the front USB ports on the Shuttle drop out. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - "I'd explain it to you, but your brain might explode." - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On 07/11/2012 03:35 AM, Gary Hodder wrote: Hi all, I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box? I had a Asus m4a79t delux but in corroded under 2 years and failed. Asus blames the customer oxidation and will not give warranty even though it has 3 years warranty. Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. I'm a bit late to this party. I've been enjoying the birth of my first grandchild so I've been offline for a few days. I like the Gigagbyte boards, but I have to say I"ve picked up a couple of incredible ASRock boards. (I'm not sure if those are ASUS boards or not. But I have a A770DE+ with a Phenom II x6, 8GB RAM and it runs as cool as I've ever seen. The heat sink isn't any bigger than most and I have that one sitting underneath a desk that doesn't get a lot of air flow. -- Mark Haney Software Developer/Consultant AB Emblem ma...@abemblem.com Linux marius.homelinux 3.4.4-4.fc16.x86_64 GNU/Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
Tom Wroblewski wrote: > I use ASUS mobo's all my builds for years without one problem, then again > I may be the lucky one. My most recent Sabertooth mobo is excellent, with > AMD FX-8150. > Before discounting any manufacturers boards, read the reviews on Newegg > and Tigerdirect first. Easy way to see how a board rates. > > Peter Gueckel wrote: > >> >>I have had 2 different Asus motherboards over the years, and I always had >>intermittent and difficult to assess problems. One other thing I should add to the considerations one ought to keep in mind when buying a motherboard is the quality of the BIOS program. With the ASUS and ASRock motherboards I have had, I noticed that the BIOS setup program was very difficult and ambiguous to understand. I got the impression that the settings were all poor translations and often left me puzzled. With the Intel motherboard, I was greeted by a menu composed of very professional and well-written settings and explanations. I find good and unambiguous use of English in the manuals and setup to be a factor worth considering. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Gary Hodder wrote: > Hi all, > > I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box? > I had a Asus m4a79t delux but in corroded under 2 years and failed. > Asus blames the customer oxidation and will not give warranty even > though it has 3 years warranty. > Strange how a old p5 Intel machine beside it is perfectly fine. > Asus warranty not worth the paper its written on. > Have a Asus crosshair V formula that spent more times being repaired > than been used. > It still comes up with eprom errors on boot and runs like a dog and Asus > will not give money back as they say they do not support Linux. > So we have proved that this brand is crap, what else is there? > > Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with > Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. > > Thanks > Gary. > Take a good look at the LAN driver for that board. If it is the new 1 GiB onboard Realtek then you might have trouble with it in Linux. I just went through hell with an Asus board with the new Realtek onboard LAN and I was going to swap it out for a Gigabyte board (at my own expense) before realising that the Gigabytes also have the same component. Even Windows won't get online with that LAN before installing the driver disk. So that is a good way to check if you know someone with the board running Windows. Whatever you do, make sure that the board you buy has a PCI slot. The stupid Asus board in question didn't even have a PCI slot for me to install a replacement LAN card into! I'll never make that mistake again! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 07:47:20PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2012, Terry Polzin wrote: > > >On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 13:49 -0400, fred smith wrote: > >>On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:26:25PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > >>> > >>> I've got an Intel D865GBFL that I purchase from Daktech in March 2006. > >>> It still runs, but I'm stuck on F14. > >>> I haven't been able to get F16 to install or F17 to run right. > >>> It uses a pentium 4, so some think its ancient. > >> > >>in recent RHEL (haven't investigated Fedora, but it may be the same) > >>RH is providing ONLY the PAT kernel, which means of course, your > >>CPU must support PAT. I suppose it's possible that a 6 year-old > >>P4 may not. > >> > >>I'm running a newer AMD processor here, so this may not apply to > >>your CPU, but when I do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" I get (among other things) > >>this output: > >> > >>flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge > >>mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext > >>fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni > >>cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a > >>misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps > >>hwpstate [8] > >> > >>which lists pae near the start of the list. I'd suspect you could tell > >>whether your P4 supports it or not by doing the same. > > pat is in my flags list. did I really type "PAT"?? man, I gotta go back and read these things before I send 'em out. I mean "PAE"! :( -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - "And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever." --- Isaiah 9:7 (niv) -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012, Terry Polzin wrote: On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 13:49 -0400, fred smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:26:25PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > I've got an Intel D865GBFL that I purchase from Daktech in March 2006. > It still runs, but I'm stuck on F14. > I haven't been able to get F16 to install or F17 to run right. > It uses a pentium 4, so some think its ancient. in recent RHEL (haven't investigated Fedora, but it may be the same) RH is providing ONLY the PAT kernel, which means of course, your CPU must support PAT. I suppose it's possible that a 6 year-old P4 may not. I'm running a newer AMD processor here, so this may not apply to your CPU, but when I do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" I get (among other things) this output: flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8] which lists pae near the start of the list. I'd suspect you could tell whether your P4 supports it or not by doing the same. pat is in my flags list. I'm running F17 PAE kernel on a Dell Inspirion 1000 (2ghz Celleron) I've chosen XFCE as my desktop. May be your desktop choice is too fat. F16 doesn't get that far. On F17, I did choose XFCE. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "On Monday, I'm gonna have to tell my kindergarten class, whom I teach not to run with scissors, that my fiance ran me through with a broadsword." -- Lily -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
I have owned tyan dual PIII (still working under freebsd); msi dual amd (working under CentOS), GA-EP35-UD3L (F17), GA-P55-US3L. The Only problems what i had were related to drivers for rtl 811x.x chipsets under centos. Asus laptops have problems with standby mode. But with little hacking can work well. Sometime laptop fan can be noisy in current kernels. On Jul 12, 2012 9:06 PM, "Suvayu Ali" wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 05:35:40PM +1000, Gary Hodder wrote: > > > > Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with > > Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. > > > > I have owned a Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P since Jan 2009; it has never broken > down, neither has it ever given me driver troubles. I have been using it > as a workstation/light server since I bought it. It even survived a > trans-atlantic move! But beware, they don't officially support Linux, > although they do have OS independent utilites for backing up and > flashing BIOSes. > > HTH > > -- > Suvayu > > Open source is the future. It sets us free. > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 05:35:40PM +1000, Gary Hodder wrote: > > Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with > Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. > I have owned a Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P since Jan 2009; it has never broken down, neither has it ever given me driver troubles. I have been using it as a workstation/light server since I bought it. It even survived a trans-atlantic move! But beware, they don't officially support Linux, although they do have OS independent utilites for backing up and flashing BIOSes. HTH -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 13:49 -0400, fred smith wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:26:25PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > > > I've got an Intel D865GBFL that I purchase from Daktech in March 2006. > > It still runs, but I'm stuck on F14. > > I haven't been able to get F16 to install or F17 to run right. > > It uses a pentium 4, so some think its ancient. > > in recent RHEL (haven't investigated Fedora, but it may be the same) > RH is providing ONLY the PAT kernel, which means of course, your > CPU must support PAT. I suppose it's possible that a 6 year-old > P4 may not. > > I'm running a newer AMD processor here, so this may not apply to > your CPU, but when I do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" I get (among other things) > this output: > > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca > cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt > pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni cx16 popcnt > lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch > osvw ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8] > > which lists pae near the start of the list. I'd suspect you could tell > whether your P4 supports it or not by doing the same. > > Fred > > -- > Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - > "And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, > Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He > will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding > it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever." > --- Isaiah 9:7 (niv) > -- I'm running F17 PAE kernel on a Dell Inspirion 1000 (2ghz Celleron) I've chosen XFCE as my desktop. May be your desktop choice is too fat. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:26:25PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > I've got an Intel D865GBFL that I purchase from Daktech in March 2006. > It still runs, but I'm stuck on F14. > I haven't been able to get F16 to install or F17 to run right. > It uses a pentium 4, so some think its ancient. in recent RHEL (haven't investigated Fedora, but it may be the same) RH is providing ONLY the PAT kernel, which means of course, your CPU must support PAT. I suppose it's possible that a 6 year-old P4 may not. I'm running a newer AMD processor here, so this may not apply to your CPU, but when I do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" I get (among other things) this output: flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8] which lists pae near the start of the list. I'd suspect you could tell whether your P4 supports it or not by doing the same. Fred -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - "And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever." --- Isaiah 9:7 (niv) -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
I've got an Intel D865GBFL that I purchase from Daktech in March 2006. It still runs, but I'm stuck on F14. I haven't been able to get F16 to install or F17 to run right. It uses a pentium 4, so some think its ancient. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "On Monday, I'm gonna have to tell my kindergarten class, whom I teach not to run with scissors, that my fiance ran me through with a broadsword." -- Lily -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On 07/12/2012 03:17 AM, James Wilkinson wrote: Tim wrote: With the comments of I have no problems with them, versus I've nothing but problems with them, I wonder whether this is due to different people getting boards made for them in different countries. Or, a distribution channel that damages boards in transit. Or different generations of motherboards having particular problems: I saw several Asus motherboards (I think they were from the A8N family), bought at different times from different suppliers, where the chipset fan died after a year or two. If you bought a motherboard where the chipset didn’t need a fan, you wouldn’t see that problem… James I too also have seen some Asus mobo's that seemed to have lasted forever in their daily use, and others that have crapped out by the second or third month of their existence. I guess it's the luck of the draw when it comes to that brand, or else it's something that has to do with what "batch" your mobo came from. EGO II -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
Tim wrote: > With the comments of I have no problems with them, versus I've nothing > but problems with them, I wonder whether this is due to different people > getting boards made for them in different countries. Or, a distribution > channel that damages boards in transit. Or different generations of motherboards having particular problems: I saw several Asus motherboards (I think they were from the A8N family), bought at different times from different suppliers, where the chipset fan died after a year or two. If you bought a motherboard where the chipset didn’t need a fan, you wouldn’t see that problem… James -- E-mail: james@ | And that bird was singin' up a storm. Chirp, pause, aprilcottage.co.uk | chirp. Almost a pulse, really. Astonishing how... | mechanical...that...sounded. And then I put my head in | my hands and sighed, because I had been trying to ID the | mating call of my Epson printer.-- Ursula Vernon -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 13:19 -0400, Tom Wroblewski wrote: > I use ASUS mobo's all my builds for years without one problem, then > again I may be the lucky one. With the comments of I have no problems with them, versus I've nothing but problems with them, I wonder whether this is due to different people getting boards made for them in different countries. Or, a distribution channel that damages boards in transit. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On 07/11/2012 03:35 AM, Gary Hodder wrote: Hi all, I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box? I had a Asus m4a79t delux but in corroded under 2 years and failed. Asus blames the customer oxidation and will not give warranty even though it has 3 years warranty. Strange how a old p5 Intel machine beside it is perfectly fine. Asus warranty not worth the paper its written on. Have a Asus crosshair V formula that spent more times being repaired than been used. It still comes up with eprom errors on boot and runs like a dog and Asus will not give money back as they say they do not support Linux. So we have proved that this brand is crap, what else is there? Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. Thanks Gary. I have an MSI K9MM-V MoBo in my CentOS 6.2 box. While I had F12/F13 on it I had issues with the HD on the IDE port disappearing at random intervals. To get the drive back I had to reboot the machine. I don't know if this behavior is still the same with CentOS 6.2 because I eventually removed the IDE drive. The built in sound card has line and microphone inputs. I've never been able to get the line input to work. The microphone input did work for a short while. I was never able to make it work again after the first few days. As for Gigabyte Mobos and Gigabyte's Hybrid EFI in connection to Linux you might want to read this web site: http://www.rodsbooks.com/gb-hybrid-efi/ -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
Gary Hodder wrote: > will not give money back as they say they do not support Linux. > So we have proved that this brand is crap, what else is there? The only companies that officially support Linux are server hardware manufacturers. IE: Dell, HP, SuperMicro, etc. If you want such a motherboard you can either by a SuperMicro board or buy a whole server system from Dell or HP. IMHO just buy any motherboard. You've had bad luck. It happens. FYI: I've always used ASUS products on all my Linux machines. Even a ASUS laptop. They are all still operating as of today. P.S. Don't say you are running Linux to the customer support people. They immediately close your case. We all know operating systems don't make working hardware into not working hardware so a little white lie is just fine. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
I use ASUS mobo's all my builds for years without one problem, then again I may be the lucky one. My most recent Sabertooth mobo is excellent, with AMD FX-8150. Before discounting any manufacturers boards, read the reviews on Newegg and Tigerdirect first. Easy way to see how a board rates. Peter Gueckel wrote: >Gary Hodder wrote: > >> I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box? > >I have had 2 different Asus motherboards over the years, and I always had >intermittent >and difficult to assess problems. Sometimes, I would boot and my hard drives >would not >be there. A few tries and reboots later, and all was fine for a few days. >Sometimes, >there would be no keyboard. This only happened with USB keyboards, never ps/2 >keyboards. Sometimes, there would be no CD/DVD drive. The system would boot, >but when >I opened k3b, there would be no drive present. After rebooting, it was back >for a few >days. Etc. > >Then, I switched to Intel motherboards. Not a single problem. I always get >Intel >motherboards with Intel graphics. These are sensational. Presently, I have the >INTEL >DQ45CB with an INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6320 1.866GHz Processor. I have had it for >about 2 >years, and I doubt I will need to upgrade for at least another couple. It has >been a >great buy and my next one will be Intel, too. > >-- >users mailing list >users@lists.fedoraproject.org >To unsubscribe or change subscription options: >https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users >Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
Gary Hodder wrote: > I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box? I have had 2 different Asus motherboards over the years, and I always had intermittent and difficult to assess problems. Sometimes, I would boot and my hard drives would not be there. A few tries and reboots later, and all was fine for a few days. Sometimes, there would be no keyboard. This only happened with USB keyboards, never ps/2 keyboards. Sometimes, there would be no CD/DVD drive. The system would boot, but when I opened k3b, there would be no drive present. After rebooting, it was back for a few days. Etc. Then, I switched to Intel motherboards. Not a single problem. I always get Intel motherboards with Intel graphics. These are sensational. Presently, I have the INTEL DQ45CB with an INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6320 1.866GHz Processor. I have had it for about 2 years, and I doubt I will need to upgrade for at least another couple. It has been a great buy and my next one will be Intel, too. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On 11/07/12 08:34, Roger types: On 11/07/12 20:56, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 11.07.2012, Gary Hodder wrote: I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box? I have had good experiences with Gigabyte mainboards the last 5 years, both with regards to Linux compatibility and quality. Me too. Roger This computer is a tiny Gigabyte board I put in a 2-unit rack mount enclosure that fits under my old Brother laser printer. An E350N-USB3, an AMD processor. I installed F-17 and it has run without a hitch for a month or more now. My past experience with ASUS was not good ... I finally tossed the board. Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box9 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 11 July 2012 08:35, Gary Hodder wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box? > > I had a Asus m4a79t delux but in corroded under 2 years and failed. > > Asus blames the customer oxidation and will not give warranty even > > though it has 3 years warranty. > > Strange how a old p5 Intel machine beside it is perfectly fine. > > Asus warranty not worth the paper its written on. > > Have a Asus crosshair V formula that spent more times being repaired > > than been used. > > It still comes up with eprom errors on boot and runs like a dog and Asus > > will not give money back as they say they do not support Linux. > > So we have proved that this brand is crap, what else is there? > > > > Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with > > Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. > > > > Asus M2NPV-MX, running for > 4 years (5?) now. > > -- > imalone > http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > Gigabyte X79-UD7 here, works great. -- Best, Christopher Svanefalk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On 11 July 2012 08:35, Gary Hodder wrote: > Hi all, > > I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box? > I had a Asus m4a79t delux but in corroded under 2 years and failed. > Asus blames the customer oxidation and will not give warranty even > though it has 3 years warranty. > Strange how a old p5 Intel machine beside it is perfectly fine. > Asus warranty not worth the paper its written on. > Have a Asus crosshair V formula that spent more times being repaired > than been used. > It still comes up with eprom errors on boot and runs like a dog and Asus > will not give money back as they say they do not support Linux. > So we have proved that this brand is crap, what else is there? > > Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with > Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. > Asus M2NPV-MX, running for > 4 years (5?) now. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On 11/07/12 20:56, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 11.07.2012, Gary Hodder wrote: I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box? I have had good experiences with Gigabyte mainboards the last 5 years, both with regards to Linux compatibility and quality. Me too. Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On 11.07.2012, Gary Hodder wrote: > I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box? I have had good experiences with Gigabyte mainboards the last 5 years, both with regards to Linux compatibility and quality. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On 11.07.2012 09:35, Gary Hodder wrote: > Hi all, > > I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box? > > Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with > Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. I don't quite understand your problem. I don't want to judge here "which motherboard is better" because it really depends on your needs. If I asked you what hard drive is better for me to use with Linux, what would you tell me? Today, the only piece of hardware that Linux users must be careful when buying is video card and sometimes sound card. Other hardware is well supported. Mateusz Marzantowicz -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On 07/11/2012 03:35 AM, Gary Hodder wrote: Hi all, I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box? I had a Asus m4a79t delux but in corroded under 2 years and failed. Asus blames the customer oxidation and will not give warranty even though it has 3 years warranty. Strange how a old p5 Intel machine beside it is perfectly fine. Asus warranty not worth the paper its written on. Have a Asus crosshair V formula that spent more times being repaired than been used. It still comes up with eprom errors on boot and runs like a dog and Asus will not give money back as they say they do not support Linux. So we have proved that this brand is crap, what else is there? Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. Thanks Gary. Not sure which motherboard my laptop has, (Gateway T-Series T6321 model!) but it's already been through installations of Linux MInt, PearOS, Ubuntu, and CEntOS, until I finally decided upon Fedora, and I haven't had any problems since, and this is a used laptop whom the owner was just going to throw away! Now it's my number one machine! (out of three!) So maybe there's some trught in what you say, a friend of mine HAD a newer Asus laptop he got from WalMart, and after the first 7 months it went belly up for (strangely enough!) a power issue! EGO II -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Motherboards
Hi all, I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box? I had a Asus m4a79t delux but in corroded under 2 years and failed. Asus blames the customer oxidation and will not give warranty even though it has 3 years warranty. Strange how a old p5 Intel machine beside it is perfectly fine. Asus warranty not worth the paper its written on. Have a Asus crosshair V formula that spent more times being repaired than been used. It still comes up with eprom errors on boot and runs like a dog and Asus will not give money back as they say they do not support Linux. So we have proved that this brand is crap, what else is there? Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. Thanks Gary. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
