Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 14/2/23 15:21, Tim via users wrote: supplemental: I should point out that I don't *use* Thunderbird. I have it installed (the one from Fedora's preinstallation, not a different "daily" one), and can experiment with it, but I use Evolution. Out of all the email clients I've tried on Linux, it's the least-worst. Not the best recommendation, but that's how things evolved (pun intended) Hunting around, I managed to find an email with a misidentified PDF file attachment (as application/octet-stream). Though I couldn't find one with a blank space in the name. Evolution will open it when clicked on, just the same as a correctly identified one (as application/pdf), in my PDF reader. Or, perhaps I should say that my system (Mate spin of F36) does, Evolution has no obvious mimetype configuration options. I think Thunderbird is the same, I'm using KDE's application/pdf settings to specify Acrobat as the default. Every entry in Thunderbird's "Files & Attachments" table is set to "Always Prompt" (I don't remember whether this was a Thunderbird default or whether I changed them to that). Also, when clicking on an application/octet-stream pdf attachment, if I select other in the prompt, Acrobat does not appear in the list of applications that can be used to open the pdf. Interestingly, for both mimetypes, Chrome and Chromium both appear in the application list, Firefox doesn't because with the way it is installed I would have to add it manually if I wanted to. Thunderbird will open it when clicked on, within itself. Likewise for correctly identified ones. I only get open, save-as, detach, delete options, no open-with options, on the message reader. With the pdf options in Thunderbird set to "Always Prompt" I get a dialogue the shows "Open With", "Save File" and a check box "Do this automatically for files like this from now on.". The open with entry is a drop down list that contains "Adobe Reader 9 (default)", "Okular" and "Other". If I click on "Other" it displays a list of "Recommended Applications" which is all the application entries in the application/pdf mimetype list except for the snap installed Acrobat DC entry (it does this for both mimetypes even though the application/octet-stream list is empty in system settings, incidentally it has only done this for the application/octet-stream since installing the linux version of Acrobat Reader 9.5.5), and a button for "View All Applications" and a button for "Find New Applications". Interestingly, if having clicked on "Other" I then select "Cancel" it changes the displayed name in the drop down to "Okular" instead of "Adobe Reader 9 (default)" which was shown when the dialogue opened. regards, Steve If I go into the Thunderbird settings, and change PDF handling to an external reader, it works (correctly and incorrectly identified mimetyped files are opened externally). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 14/2/23 14:55, Tim via users wrote: Just following up on an older thread... Tim: You can try setting it to pass the file to xdg-open, and then xdg-open will try opening the file in the right application for what the file is. See if that changes anything. Stephen Morris: To use xdg-open do I need to save the attachment first, or if not, when I am clicking on the attachment in the attachment bar at the bottom of the mail, to browse the attachment, how do I pass that into xdg-open? xdg-open is a file handler program. Hand it a file, and it'll decide what to do with it based on its own rules (determining the type of file, and the appropriate/preferred application to read it), making it a useful default to handle unknown (application/octet-stream) files from the mail. In your mailer, you'd set it (xdg-open) as the default program for such files, and/or any other files you'd like to palm off to it. So, instead of setting acrobat in the attachment preferences, you'd set xdg-open. Elsewhere, in xdg's settings, you'd tell it what your preferences are for handling PDF files. This stage of configuration, I don't remember the process. Your desktop "preferred applications" configurator may set them for you, or it might just set its own preferred applications. If your mail program "opens" the file, it'll send it to the application configured in your mail program. If you "save" a file, it just gets directly saved to your drive. The advantage of using xdg-open for application/octet-stream attachments is that if you receive a PDF sent that way, xdg-open should (could) use the right reader to view a PDF; if you get sent a JPEG as application/octet-stream, xdg-open should use an image viewer to view the JPEG. Likewise for any other file mis-sent as that generic binary description, it'd analyse the file and open it appropriately. The alternative is that people try setting a PDF reader as the application for application/octet-stream attachments, then things foul up when they receive something other that PDF sent that way. And they will receive various things misidentified that way. Ideally, you should never receive any of the common types of files misidentifed as that generic unknown binary mimetype, they've been known about for decades. I tend to save attached files and open the saved file, I'm not fond of directly opening attachments. I often find that doesn't work as straight-forwardly as you might wish. The attachments are being saved to a sub-folder of /tmp where the sub-folder name looks like it may have been named to reflect the pid of Thunderbird. I would expect any of your applications ought to be able to open any file saved in your name. There could be SELinux implications. Did it save the file with a .pdf suffix, too? It did save the file with a pdf extension, but I think the issue may be that snap has installed the Windows version of Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, which runs through Wine, as there is no linux version of Acrobat DC, as Adobe stopped supporting Linux quite some time ago. A wild thought: Is it a filename with blank spaces in it? The attachment that is mimetype application/binary-octet does have embedded blanks in the attachment name, the attachment that is mimetype application/pdf doesn't have embedded blanks in the attachment name. That can foul things up. It's 2023, but some applications still have grief dealing with filenames with spaces in it. And there are so many people using computers who never learnt that it can be a problem. Interestingly, I registered Acrobat as the default application for mimetype application/pdf, so when I clicked on the application/pdf mimetype attachment the prompt asked me if I wanted to open it the default of Acrobat, but to check to location of the file I selected Okular instead. When I then opened the email that had the mimetype application/binary-octet attachment, when I clicked on the attachment the prompt asked me if I wanted to open the file in Okular even though it had Acrobat as the default. "What" has Acrobat set as the default? Thunderbird's setting for handling application/pdf or application/octet-stream? Your desktop's settings? Sorry, I had application/pdf set to Acrobat in KDE's system settings for application mimetypes. Interestingly with this, even though via the System Settings I only have application/pdf set to Acrobat as the default viewer, the system prompt still shows Acrobat as the default application even though it is not specified in the mimetype settings in KDE for the octet-stream. The fact that the prompt shows the "preferred" application as Okular after opening a pdf from Thunderbird in that application may be a feature of Thunderbird, but I'm not sure. In the Thunderbird settings for "Files & Attachments" I have "Portable Document Format (PDF)" set to "Always Prompt". Mimetyping works thus: When someone attaches a file to be sent, their software *should* *correctly* identify the type
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On Tue, 2023-02-14 at 14:51 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > Evolution has no obvious mimetype configuration options. Correct. Evolution assumes that your desktop knows how to handle this via the xdg-* utilities. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
supplemental: I should point out that I don't *use* Thunderbird. I have it installed (the one from Fedora's preinstallation, not a different "daily" one), and can experiment with it, but I use Evolution. Out of all the email clients I've tried on Linux, it's the least-worst. Not the best recommendation, but that's how things evolved (pun intended) Hunting around, I managed to find an email with a misidentified PDF file attachment (as application/octet-stream). Though I couldn't find one with a blank space in the name. Evolution will open it when clicked on, just the same as a correctly identified one (as application/pdf), in my PDF reader. Or, perhaps I should say that my system (Mate spin of F36) does, Evolution has no obvious mimetype configuration options. Thunderbird will open it when clicked on, within itself. Likewise for correctly identified ones. I only get open, save-as, detach, delete options, no open-with options, on the message reader. If I go into the Thunderbird settings, and change PDF handling to an external reader, it works (correctly and incorrectly identified mimetyped files are opened externally). -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.1.7-100.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed Jan 18 18:37:43 UTC 2023 x86_64 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
Just following up on an older thread... Tim: >> You can try setting it to pass the file to xdg-open, and then >> xdg-open will try opening the file in the right application for >> what the file is. See if that changes anything. Stephen Morris: > To use xdg-open do I need to save the attachment first, or if not, > when I am clicking on the attachment in the attachment bar at the > bottom of the mail, to browse the attachment, how do I pass that into > xdg-open? xdg-open is a file handler program. Hand it a file, and it'll decide what to do with it based on its own rules (determining the type of file, and the appropriate/preferred application to read it), making it a useful default to handle unknown (application/octet-stream) files from the mail. In your mailer, you'd set it (xdg-open) as the default program for such files, and/or any other files you'd like to palm off to it. So, instead of setting acrobat in the attachment preferences, you'd set xdg-open. Elsewhere, in xdg's settings, you'd tell it what your preferences are for handling PDF files. This stage of configuration, I don't remember the process. Your desktop "preferred applications" configurator may set them for you, or it might just set its own preferred applications. If your mail program "opens" the file, it'll send it to the application configured in your mail program. If you "save" a file, it just gets directly saved to your drive. The advantage of using xdg-open for application/octet-stream attachments is that if you receive a PDF sent that way, xdg-open should (could) use the right reader to view a PDF; if you get sent a JPEG as application/octet-stream, xdg-open should use an image viewer to view the JPEG. Likewise for any other file mis-sent as that generic binary description, it'd analyse the file and open it appropriately. The alternative is that people try setting a PDF reader as the application for application/octet-stream attachments, then things foul up when they receive something other that PDF sent that way. And they will receive various things misidentified that way. Ideally, you should never receive any of the common types of files misidentifed as that generic unknown binary mimetype, they've been known about for decades. I tend to save attached files and open the saved file, I'm not fond of directly opening attachments. I often find that doesn't work as straight-forwardly as you might wish. > > The attachments are being saved to a sub-folder of /tmp where the > sub-folder name looks like it may have been named to reflect the pid > of Thunderbird. I would expect any of your applications ought to be able to open any file saved in your name. There could be SELinux implications. Did it save the file with a .pdf suffix, too? >> A wild thought: Is it a filename with blank spaces in it? > The attachment that is mimetype application/binary-octet does have > embedded blanks in the attachment name, the attachment that is > mimetype application/pdf doesn't have embedded blanks in the > attachment name. That can foul things up. It's 2023, but some applications still have grief dealing with filenames with spaces in it. And there are so many people using computers who never learnt that it can be a problem. > Interestingly, I registered Acrobat as the default application for > mimetype application/pdf, so when I clicked on the application/pdf > mimetype attachment the prompt asked me if I wanted to open it the > default of Acrobat, but to check to location of the file I selected > Okular instead. > When I then opened the email that had the mimetype > application/binary-octet attachment, when I clicked on the attachment > the prompt asked me if I wanted to open the file in Okular even > though it had Acrobat as the default. "What" has Acrobat set as the default? Thunderbird's setting for handling application/pdf or application/octet-stream? Your desktop's settings? Mimetyping works thus: When someone attaches a file to be sent, their software *should* *correctly* identify the type of file it is in the mimetype header (and in 2023 all programs that weren't written by a fool ought to know what a PDF file is). When you receive such an email, your email program should obey the mimetype header, and nothing else. If the headers says its a PDF file, then it hands it off to a PDF reader, no matter what the file really is. Likewise for JPEGs, if the header says its a JPEG it hands it off to the JPEG reader, even if it's not a JPEG. Et cetera... If an attachment is described as application/octet-stream, it becomes a "not my problem" issue to the mail program. You're expected to deal with it by saving it and sorting it out yourself, or some other aspect of your operating system may handle it (e.g xdg-open). The file is palmed off. Thunderbird isn't told what it is externally, and doesn't then open the file using your PDF viewer configured in Thunderbird. Thunderbird doesn't do anything with that file.
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily [Resolved]
On 5/2/23 11:26, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, I have Adobe Acrobat Reader DC installed in F37 via Snap. When I click on a pdf attachment in Thunderbird Daily I get a prompt asking if I want to view it in the Ocular default or save the attachment. If I click "OK" to display it in Ocular it displays fine. When I click on the Drop Down in the prompt and select "Other" to display the pdf in something other than Ocular I am not shown Acrobat in the list, but if I look at "KDE System Settings->Applications->File Associations->application->pdf" Adobe Acrobat is shown as the third entry in the list of applications. If I move Adobe Acrobat to the top then the prompt from Thunderbird shows Adobe Acrobat as the default as expected. With the prompt now asking if I want to view the pdf in Acrobat, if I click on "OK" Acrobat is launched but produced the error "There was an error opening this document. This file cannot be found". If I edit the pdf association entry for Acrobat and add "%U" into the empty Arguments text box, in the same way it is specified for the Ocular entry, Acrobat still produces the error message that it can't find the file. Has the snap process not installed Acrobat correctly, or is the file argument for Acrobat not "%U", or is there something else at play here? regards, Steve It seems as though the reason the attachment does not appear to be passed into Acrobat is the version that snap installs is the Windows version of Adobe Acrobat Reader DC. I found on the net a methodology to install a 32-bit linux version of Acrobat Reader 9.5.5 into Fedora 33/34 which works for installing that version into F37. Even though with this install the mimetype association doesn't specify any arguments for the filename like the one for Okular does, both of the two mimetype attachments get passed into Acrobat for viewing quite happily. So now I can use the Acrobat Reader 9 association for accessing pdf attachments in emails and the Acrobat Reader DC app for saved pdf's if I need the extra functionality that it provides. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On Thu, 9 Feb 2023, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Thu Feb09'23 11:16:04AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: Try running Thunderbird under strace. It can be told to record only open calls. To get the same environment, you might put something like this in the /usr/bin directory: file pigeon: #!/usr/bin/sh exec strace -o /tmp/strace.out trace=%file thunderbird $* Tweaks by the better-informed are welcome, e.g. does $* need "quotes"? BTW suggesting that OP use another pdf reader or save the file first does not really help. He already knows how to do that. Such suggestions are basically telling him to give up. A friend of mine, whenever I have any trouble at all with my computer, suggests I get a Mac. I find it annoying. Color me unimpressed with your somewhat-contrived equivalence. We have here a OSS-based-linux distribution mailing list, and there is nothing unusual with us providing equivalent and helpful OSS solutions which we have far more experience with. That is different from asking someone to go buy another computer that hides the problems, and gives the user a false sense of security. What is annoying is the OP ignoring something as simple as a misnamed piece of software, and continuing to use it for whatever reason, even when he claims to have always thought it was something else. Beyond the name, he could have learnt about other software which would have been easier to use, and does not come with all sorts of restrictions. According to OP: "Ocular reads the pdf's as well". Clearly OP can use Okular, but does not want to. OP has his reasons for wanting to use Acrobat, among them that he uses Acrobat at work. That is something he might or might not be able to change and might or might not be useful if he does. To the best of my knowledge, missspeling Ockuler is not a deadly sin. Even if using Okular were the ideal choice, there is hardly anything wrong with trying to discover what went wrong with Acrobat. In any case, this little argument is not helping OP either. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 10/2/23 01:38, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2023-02-09 at 21:05 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: I've checked two mails with attachments, one mail has the pdf attachment as content type application/binary-octet and the other has the content type of application/pdf on the attachment and the issue occurs with both of them. On that note, it's not a good idea to try and get your program to open PDFs sent as application/binary-octet, because it'll try to do the same thing with any other non-PDF file. Fun and chaos will ensue. I had no idea that mime type was being used for the mail attachment until I viewed the mail source and searched through the source for the attachment that I found what mimetype the attachment had been added with. You can try setting it to pass the file to xdg-open, and then xdg-open will try opening the file in the right application for what the file is. See if that changes anything. To use xdg-open do I need to save the attachment first, or if not, when I am clicking on the attachment in the attachment bar at the bottom of the mail, to browse the attachment, how do I pass that into xdg-open? If you allow Thunderbird to directly open the PDF in Okular, can you view properties of the PDF file in Okular, and see where the temporary file is being loaded from? The attachments are being saved to a sub-folder of /tmp where the sub-folder name looks like it may have been named to reflect the pid of Thunderbird. A wild thought: Is it a filename with blank spaces in it? The attachment that is mimetype application/binary-octet does have embedded blanks in the attachment name, the attachment that is mimetype application/pdf doesn't have embedded blanks in the attachment name. Interestingly, I registered Acrobat as the default application for mimetype application/pdf, so when I clicked on the application/pdf mimetype attachment the prompt asked me if I wanted to open it the default of Acrobat, but to check to location of the file I selected Okular instead. When I then opened the email that had the mimetype application/binary-octet attachment, when I clicked on the attachment the prompt asked me if I wanted to open the file in Okular even though it had Acrobat as the default. What I don't know from this functionality is whether what I'm seeing is standard Linux, or a feature of the version of Thunderbird I am using, as I expected the prompt to ask whether I wanted the file to be opened in whatever was the default application for the associated mimetype. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On Thu Feb09'23 11:16:04AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: > From: Michael Hennebry > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 11:16:04 -0600 (CST) > To: Tim via users > CC: Tim > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display > an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily > > Try running Thunderbird under strace. > It can be told to record only open calls. > > To get the same environment, > you might put something like this in the /usr/bin directory: > file pigeon: > #!/usr/bin/sh > exec strace -o /tmp/strace.out trace=%file thunderbird $* > > Tweaks by the better-informed are welcome, > e.g. does $* need "quotes"? > > > BTW suggesting that OP use another pdf reader > or save the file first does not really help. > He already knows how to do that. > Such suggestions are basically telling him to give up. > > A friend of mine, whenever I have any trouble at all with my computer, > suggests I get a Mac. I find it annoying. Color me unimpressed with your somewhat-contrived equivalence. We have here a OSS-based-linux distribution mailing list, and there is nothing unusual with us providing equivalent and helpful OSS solutions which we have far more experience with. That is different from asking someone to go buy another computer that hides the problems, and gives the user a false sense of security. What is annoying is the OP ignoring something as simple as a misnamed piece of software, and continuing to use it for whatever reason, even when he claims to have always thought it was something else. Beyond the name, he could have learnt about other software which would have been easier to use, and does not come with all sorts of restrictions. Ranjan ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
Try running Thunderbird under strace. It can be told to record only open calls. To get the same environment, you might put something like this in the /usr/bin directory: file pigeon: #!/usr/bin/sh exec strace -o /tmp/strace.out trace=%file thunderbird $* Tweaks by the better-informed are welcome, e.g. does $* need "quotes"? BTW suggesting that OP use another pdf reader or save the file first does not really help. He already knows how to do that. Such suggestions are basically telling him to give up. A friend of mine, whenever I have any trouble at all with my computer, suggests I get a Mac. I find it annoying. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On Thu Feb09'23 08:53:43PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > From: Stephen Morris > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 20:53:43 +1100 > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display > an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily > > On 9/2/23 09:03, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2023-02-09 at 08:52 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > > > > I use Okular [sic] all the time. > > > I could use Ocular as well, > > Once again, it's Okular, not Ocular (in case someone does a search for > > the term in the future.) > Sorry, I thought it was Ocular. Interestingly, everyone else here has been using the correct name: okular, and you still continue to use the incorrect, misspelt name. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ocular+software&atb=v228-1&ia=web shows that there is some commercial imaging software by your misspelt name. Further down the list is the Okular universal document viewer. I have to say that though I rely more on the simpler zathura for my PDFs, I find okular to be outstanding. Evince is also very good. Best wishes, Ranjan ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On Thu, 2023-02-09 at 21:05 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > I've checked two mails with attachments, one mail has the pdf attachment > as content type application/binary-octet and the other has the content > type of application/pdf on the attachment and the issue occurs with both > of them. On that note, it's not a good idea to try and get your program to open PDFs sent as application/binary-octet, because it'll try to do the same thing with any other non-PDF file. Fun and chaos will ensue. You can try setting it to pass the file to xdg-open, and then xdg-open will try opening the file in the right application for what the file is. See if that changes anything. If you allow Thunderbird to directly open the PDF in Okular, can you view properties of the PDF file in Okular, and see where the temporary file is being loaded from? A wild thought: Is it a filename with blank spaces in it? -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.1.7-100.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed Jan 18 18:37:43 UTC 2023 x86_64 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 9/2/23 21:05, Stephen Morris wrote: On 9/2/23 20:56, Stephen Morris wrote: On 9/2/23 12:11, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2023-02-09 at 08:52 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: The other thing I found strange is, I have Thunderbird Daily configured to prompt for download locations, and when I click on the pdf attachment in the mail I get prompted to open it in the default app or save it. In the default app drop down in that dialogue, when the default app was Ocular, if I select "Other" to select a different app, Acrobat does not appear in the list of selectable apps even though it is specified the app list in the pdf application association. Is this for some, or all, PDFs? A common problem with dealing with attachments is when they're sent using the wrong mime-type. Files are supposed to be sent with a description of what type of file they are, and the recipient is supposed to act upon that information. It's not supposed to guess from the filename, nor snoop into the file to work it out. PDFs ought to be sent as: application/pdf However some senders may be set up badly, and just use the generic "application/binary-octet" that means some unknown binary file. It could be that situation, I hadn't checked that. I'll see if I can figure out what it is using. I've checked two mails with attachments, one mail has the pdf attachment as content type application/binary-octet and the other has the content type of application/pdf on the attachment and the issue occurs with both of them. regards, Steve regards, Steve I've just verified that the snap implementation of Acrordrdc is the windows version of Acrobat. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 9/2/23 20:56, Stephen Morris wrote: On 9/2/23 12:11, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2023-02-09 at 08:52 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: The other thing I found strange is, I have Thunderbird Daily configured to prompt for download locations, and when I click on the pdf attachment in the mail I get prompted to open it in the default app or save it. In the default app drop down in that dialogue, when the default app was Ocular, if I select "Other" to select a different app, Acrobat does not appear in the list of selectable apps even though it is specified the app list in the pdf application association. Is this for some, or all, PDFs? A common problem with dealing with attachments is when they're sent using the wrong mime-type. Files are supposed to be sent with a description of what type of file they are, and the recipient is supposed to act upon that information. It's not supposed to guess from the filename, nor snoop into the file to work it out. PDFs ought to be sent as: application/pdf However some senders may be set up badly, and just use the generic "application/binary-octet" that means some unknown binary file. It could be that situation, I hadn't checked that. I'll see if I can figure out what it is using. I've checked two mails with attachments, one mail has the pdf attachment as content type application/binary-octet and the other has the content type of application/pdf on the attachment and the issue occurs with both of them. regards, Steve regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 9/2/23 12:11, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2023-02-09 at 08:52 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: The other thing I found strange is, I have Thunderbird Daily configured to prompt for download locations, and when I click on the pdf attachment in the mail I get prompted to open it in the default app or save it. In the default app drop down in that dialogue, when the default app was Ocular, if I select "Other" to select a different app, Acrobat does not appear in the list of selectable apps even though it is specified the app list in the pdf application association. Is this for some, or all, PDFs? A common problem with dealing with attachments is when they're sent using the wrong mime-type. Files are supposed to be sent with a description of what type of file they are, and the recipient is supposed to act upon that information. It's not supposed to guess from the filename, nor snoop into the file to work it out. PDFs ought to be sent as: application/pdf However some senders may be set up badly, and just use the generic "application/binary-octet" that means some unknown binary file. It could be that situation, I hadn't checked that. I'll see if I can figure out what it is using. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 9/2/23 09:03, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2023-02-09 at 08:52 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: I use Okular [sic] all the time. I could use Ocular as well, Once again, it's Okular, not Ocular (in case someone does a search for the term in the future.) Sorry, I thought it was Ocular. regards, Steve poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On Thu, 2023-02-09 at 08:52 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > The other thing I found strange is, I have Thunderbird Daily configured > to prompt for download locations, and when I click on the pdf attachment > in the mail I get prompted to open it in the default app or save it. In > the default app drop down in that dialogue, when the default app was > Ocular, if I select "Other" to select a different app, Acrobat does not > appear in the list of selectable apps even though it is specified the > app list in the pdf application association. Is this for some, or all, PDFs? A common problem with dealing with attachments is when they're sent using the wrong mime-type. Files are supposed to be sent with a description of what type of file they are, and the recipient is supposed to act upon that information. It's not supposed to guess from the filename, nor snoop into the file to work it out. PDFs ought to be sent as: application/pdf However some senders may be set up badly, and just use the generic "application/binary-octet" that means some unknown binary file. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.83.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 25 16:41:43 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On Thu, 2023-02-09 at 08:29 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > I haven't tried yet as until now I have always been able to use a native > linux version without any issues. I also haven't tested yet whether the > association issue is global or only with the daily version of Thunderbird. > I've checked the association definition for Ocular and it has %U > specified as a parameter, which works for passing the name and location > of the attachment into Ocular for the attachment contents to be > displayed. Adding this parameter into the Acrobat association definition > doesn't work, so I'm now wondering if there is an equivalent parameter > for Acrobat that is supported by Fedora, and does the same thing as %U? I wonder if it's one of those things where it doesn't pass on a file path, but one of the weird URLs of mounted/psuedo filesystems. I wonder what would happen if you used a handler in between? A script that Thunderbird passed it to, that passed it to (the not-so- flexible) Acrobat (I couldn't resist that bad pun). In the past, I'd set the handlers for some awkward browsers to use "xdg-open" as their handler. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.83.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 25 16:41:43 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On Thu, 2023-02-09 at 08:52 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > > I use Okular [sic] all the time. > I could use Ocular as well, Once again, it's Okular, not Ocular (in case someone does a search for the term in the future.) poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 8/2/23 22:59, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2023-02-07 at 22:59 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2/7/23 00:02, Stephen Morris wrote: Ocular reads the pdf's as well, but I'm used to using Acrobat under Windows and previous versions of Fedora where I did not have the same issues I am now, and we also use Acrobat at work. regards, Steve I never cared for Ocular. I use Okular [sic] all the time. I could use Ocular as well, but in the past I have found the odd situation where Ocular doesn't display the pdf contents properly and Acrobat does, so I have tended to use Acrobat, and until now I have never had any issues with the Linux implementation. Having said this though, I think up until F36 Acrobat was installed via an installed repository designed for Fedora, it wasn't until F36 that the recommended method for installing Acrobat was Snap, but I also had no situation under F36 where I had a need to open a pdf mail attachment, hence don't know whether the issue I have now has always been there with the snap implementation or has only become an issue with F37. As I mentioned in my reply to Todd, the Ocular association definition specifies a %U parameter to pass in the name and location of the file to display, but that specification doesn't work with Acrobat, so at the moment I don't know whether Acrobat requires a different parameter and if so whether that parameter is supported under Fedora. The other thing I found strange is, I have Thunderbird Daily configured to prompt for download locations, and when I click on the pdf attachment in the mail I get prompted to open it in the default app or save it. In the default app drop down in that dialogue, when the default app was Ocular, if I select "Other" to select a different app, Acrobat does not appear in the list of selectable apps even though it is specified the app list in the pdf application association. So I'm not even sure at the moment if the snap implementation has been done properly or whether there is some other package that I'm missing. regards, Steve poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 8/2/23 19:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2/7/23 22:59, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Have you tried running Acrobat or Acrobat Reader under Wine? Acrobat's sub installe for WIodws is a disaster. You can download the real insaller from: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/win/AcrobatDC/2001320064/AcroRdrDC2001320064_en_US.exe I haven't tried yet as until now I have always been able to use a native linux version without any issues. I also haven't tested yet whether the association issue is global or only with the daily version of Thunderbird. I've checked the association definition for Ocular and it has %U specified as a parameter, which works for passing the name and location of the attachment into Ocular for the attachment contents to be displayed. Adding this parameter into the Acrobat association definition doesn't work, so I'm now wondering if there is an equivalent parameter for Acrobat that is supported by Fedora, and does the same thing as %U? regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On Wed Feb08'23 11:59:12AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > From: Patrick O'Callaghan > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2023 11:59:12 + > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display > an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily > > On Tue, 2023-02-07 at 22:59 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > On 2/7/23 00:02, Stephen Morris wrote: > > > Ocular reads the pdf's as well, but I'm used to using Acrobat under > > > Windows and previous versions of Fedora where I did not have the > > > same > > > issues I am now, and we also use Acrobat at work. > > > > > > regards, > > > Steve > > > > I never cared for Ocular. > > I use Okular [sic] all the time. I use zathura for most purposes. For when I have to read comments on pdfs I use evince or okular. Okular is also good for filling pdfs (I do not know if evince can do this), though for actual handwriting, I use xournalpp. Generally happy I have not had to deal with adobe for at least ten years, perhaps more!:-) Ranjan ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On Tue, 2023-02-07 at 22:59 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2/7/23 00:02, Stephen Morris wrote: > > Ocular reads the pdf's as well, but I'm used to using Acrobat under > > Windows and previous versions of Fedora where I did not have the > > same > > issues I am now, and we also use Acrobat at work. > > > > regards, > > Steve > > I never cared for Ocular. I use Okular [sic] all the time. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 2/7/23 22:59, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Have you tried running Acrobat or Acrobat Reader under Wine? Acrobat's sub installe for WIodws is a disaster. You can download the real insaller from: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/win/AcrobatDC/2001320064/AcroRdrDC2001320064_en_US.exe ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 2/7/23 00:02, Stephen Morris wrote: Ocular reads the pdf's as well, but I'm used to using Acrobat under Windows and previous versions of Fedora where I did not have the same issues I am now, and we also use Acrobat at work. regards, Steve I never cared for Ocular. Most of my customers are Windows customers. Acrobat and Acrobat Reader is popular with them as well. Have you tried running Acrobat or Acrobat Reader under Wine? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 7/2/23 12:33, Richard England wrote: On 2/6/23 17:16, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2/6/23 13:21, Stephen Morris wrote: I have no idea if there is any way to get extra debugging information nor do I know how to put Selinux in passive mode, but I would have thought that if it was an Selinux issue that Selinux would have produced a pop-up for the exception with instructions on how to resolve it, like it did for the snap processes when snap was initially installed. Also if it was an Selinux issue I would have thought the process for extracting the attachment from the mail and passing it to Ocular would also fail. One issue might be that the %U parameter specified for Ocular to give it the location of the extracted file may not be the correct parameter for Acrobat. I think, by default, Thunderbird puts temp files in /tmp. Would a program running in a snap even be able to access that? Thunderbird lets you define where the downloads go. See Edit > Settings > General and scroll down looking for "Save files to". Check it and select/browse to the location you want to save to. I have it set to prompt for the location which is happening in my situation where it is asking whether I want to open it in the default app, which at the moment I have set to Acrobat, or save the file. If I select "Save" it prompts for where I want to save it. My issue is when I specify to open the email attachment in the default app, being Acrobat, Acrobat errors saying it can't find the file. If I set the default to Ocular, the attachment open successfully in Ocular. regards, Steve ~~R ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 7/2/23 12:16, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2/6/23 13:21, Stephen Morris wrote: I have no idea if there is any way to get extra debugging information nor do I know how to put Selinux in passive mode, but I would have thought that if it was an Selinux issue that Selinux would have produced a pop-up for the exception with instructions on how to resolve it, like it did for the snap processes when snap was initially installed. Also if it was an Selinux issue I would have thought the process for extracting the attachment from the mail and passing it to Ocular would also fail. One issue might be that the %U parameter specified for Ocular to give it the location of the extracted file may not be the correct parameter for Acrobat. I think, by default, Thunderbird puts temp files in /tmp. Would a program running in a snap even be able to access that? Snapd runs as a socket, so I thought it should be able to access /tmp. I also thought anything in Fedora can access /tmp? regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 7/2/23 08:45, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2/6/23 13:21, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi Steve, Not what you asked, BUT WHEN DOES THAT STOP ME!!! I have used Master PDF Editor for years and am very pleased with it. https://code-industry.net/ The free versions (similar to Acrobat Reader) works well for simple uses. I pay for it every years as it is used so much in my business and I need the extra feature enabled. Libre Office will now read PDF's too, but it is a weird mess. Ocular reads the pdf's as well, but I'm used to using Acrobat under Windows and previous versions of Fedora where I did not have the same issues I am now, and we also use Acrobat at work. regards, Steve -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 2/6/23 20:32, Richard England wrote: On 2/6/23 20:26, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2/6/23 17:33, Richard England wrote: Thunderbird lets you define where the downloads go. See Edit > Settings > General and scroll down looking for "Save files to". Check it and select/browse to the location you want to save to. ~~R That is the final destination, not the temporary location of scratch paper files. Perhaps modifying $TMP would direct the file to a new location. Assuming TB uses that setting. I let more knowledgeable folks continue this conversation. I do not know why you would. Normal users can have at /tmp to the hearts desire ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 2/6/23 20:26, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2/6/23 17:33, Richard England wrote: Thunderbird lets you define where the downloads go. See Edit > Settings > General and scroll down looking for "Save files to". Check it and select/browse to the location you want to save to. ~~R That is the final destination, not the temporary location of scratch paper files. Perhaps modifying $TMP would direct the file to a new location. Assuming TB uses that setting. I let more knowledgeable folks continue this conversation. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 2/6/23 17:33, Richard England wrote: Thunderbird lets you define where the downloads go. See Edit > Settings > General and scroll down looking for "Save files to". Check it and select/browse to the location you want to save to. ~~R That is the final destination, not the temporary location of scratch paper files. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
Samuel Sieb: >> I think, by default, Thunderbird puts temp files in /tmp. Would a >> program running in a snap even be able to access that? Richard England: > > Thunderbird lets you define where the downloads go. > > See Edit > Settings > General and scroll down looking for "Save files > to". Check it and select/browse to the location you want to save to. How browsers (and other browser-like applications) deal with temporary files (click and open directly) is usually different from how they deal with download and save. -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.1.7-100.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed Jan 18 18:37:43 UTC 2023 x86_64 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 2/6/23 17:16, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2/6/23 13:21, Stephen Morris wrote: I have no idea if there is any way to get extra debugging information nor do I know how to put Selinux in passive mode, but I would have thought that if it was an Selinux issue that Selinux would have produced a pop-up for the exception with instructions on how to resolve it, like it did for the snap processes when snap was initially installed. Also if it was an Selinux issue I would have thought the process for extracting the attachment from the mail and passing it to Ocular would also fail. One issue might be that the %U parameter specified for Ocular to give it the location of the extracted file may not be the correct parameter for Acrobat. I think, by default, Thunderbird puts temp files in /tmp. Would a program running in a snap even be able to access that? Thunderbird lets you define where the downloads go. See Edit > Settings > General and scroll down looking for "Save files to". Check it and select/browse to the location you want to save to. ~~R ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 2/6/23 13:21, Stephen Morris wrote: I have no idea if there is any way to get extra debugging information nor do I know how to put Selinux in passive mode, but I would have thought that if it was an Selinux issue that Selinux would have produced a pop-up for the exception with instructions on how to resolve it, like it did for the snap processes when snap was initially installed. Also if it was an Selinux issue I would have thought the process for extracting the attachment from the mail and passing it to Ocular would also fail. One issue might be that the %U parameter specified for Ocular to give it the location of the extracted file may not be the correct parameter for Acrobat. I think, by default, Thunderbird puts temp files in /tmp. Would a program running in a snap even be able to access that? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 2/6/23 13:21, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi Steve, Not what you asked, BUT WHEN DOES THAT STOP ME!!! I have used Master PDF Editor for years and am very pleased with it. https://code-industry.net/ The free versions (similar to Acrobat Reader) works well for simple uses. I pay for it every years as it is used so much in my business and I need the extra feature enabled. Libre Office will now read PDF's too, but it is a weird mess. -T -- A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without the mustard ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On 6/2/23 03:03, stan via users wrote: On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 11:26:03 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, I have Adobe Acrobat Reader DC installed in F37 via Snap. When I click on a pdf attachment in Thunderbird Daily I get a prompt asking if I want to view it in the Ocular default or save the attachment. If I click "OK" to display it in Ocular it displays fine. When I click on the Drop Down in the prompt and select "Other" to display the pdf in something other than Ocular I am not shown Acrobat in the list, but if I look at "KDE System Settings->Applications->File Associations->application->pdf" Adobe Acrobat is shown as the third entry in the list of applications. If I move Adobe Acrobat to the top then the prompt from Thunderbird shows Adobe Acrobat as the default as expected. With the prompt now asking if I want to view the pdf in Acrobat, if I click on "OK" Acrobat is launched but produced the error "There was an error opening this document. This file cannot be found". If I edit the pdf association entry for Acrobat and add "%U" into the empty Arguments text box, in the same way it is specified for the Ocular entry, Acrobat still produces the error message that it can't find the file. Has the snap process not installed Acrobat correctly, or is the file argument for Acrobat not "%U", or is there something else at play here? This seems like it is more a question that should be asked of snap or adobe. Unless someone else has this snap installed, and it is working for them, or snap in general is failing on fedora. I don't use snap so I don't know. Is there any way to get more debugging information? Like, what is the filename it is looking for? Is it looking in the wrong place? Maybe it is nelinux context missing. Have you tried running with selinux in permissive mode? I seem to remember that the method for installing acrobat in Fedora used to be a 3rd party repository I think was provided by Adobe, but I believe Adobe stopped supporting Acrobat in Linux some time ago. The reason I'm using snap is all the hits I found from Google on installing Acrobat in Fedora all said to use snap to do it and provided the relevant snap commands. I also don't know at the moment who supports snap and how. I have no idea if there is any way to get extra debugging information nor do I know how to put Selinux in passive mode, but I would have thought that if it was an Selinux issue that Selinux would have produced a pop-up for the exception with instructions on how to resolve it, like it did for the snap processes when snap was initially installed. Also if it was an Selinux issue I would have thought the process for extracting the attachment from the mail and passing it to Ocular would also fail. One issue might be that the %U parameter specified for Ocular to give it the location of the extracted file may not be the correct parameter for Acrobat. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily
On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 11:26:03 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: > Hi, > I have Adobe Acrobat Reader DC installed in F37 via Snap. When I > click on a pdf attachment in Thunderbird Daily I get a prompt asking > if I want to view it in the Ocular default or save the attachment. If > I click "OK" to display it in Ocular it displays fine. > When I click on the Drop Down in the prompt and select "Other" > to display the pdf in something other than Ocular I am not shown > Acrobat in the list, but if I look at "KDE System > Settings->Applications->File Associations->application->pdf" Adobe > Acrobat is shown as the third entry in the list of applications. If I > move Adobe Acrobat to the top then the prompt from Thunderbird shows > Adobe Acrobat as the default as expected. > With the prompt now asking if I want to view the pdf in Acrobat, > if I click on "OK" Acrobat is launched but produced the error "There > was an error opening this document. This file cannot be found". If I > edit the pdf association entry for Acrobat and add "%U" into the > empty Arguments text box, in the same way it is specified for the > Ocular entry, Acrobat still produces the error message that it can't > find the file. Has the snap process not installed Acrobat correctly, > or is the file argument for Acrobat not "%U", or is there something > else at play here? This seems like it is more a question that should be asked of snap or adobe. Unless someone else has this snap installed, and it is working for them, or snap in general is failing on fedora. I don't use snap so I don't know. Is there any way to get more debugging information? Like, what is the filename it is looking for? Is it looking in the wrong place? Maybe it is nelinux context missing. Have you tried running with selinux in permissive mode? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
