Re: F32 - terrible background
Thu, 7 May 2020 22:25:14 -0600 Joe Zeff kirjoitti: > They wouldn't like my answer as I never use the provided wallpapers, > preferring to have my desktop rotate among a selection of wallpapers > I've collected. Anyway, it's only eyecandy, not matter of life. No effect to deep waters.. :) Jarmo ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 5/7/20 7:51 PM, jarmo wrote: Thu, 7 May 2020 10:34:47 -0700 Samuel Sieb kirjoitti: If you do it that way, the next update will reset it and you will lose your picture. If I have symlink to picture, I doupt, I loose picture, maybe only symlink. If it's a symlink, then yes, it would just change your background to the default, but there was also a suggestion to replace the default file with a different picture which would be replaced. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 05/07/2020 08:51 PM, jarmo wrote: Maybe there should be somekind of poll, before new release let users tell, how much they like? To me, as long as there is NOT wincrab wallpaper, I'm happy. They wouldn't like my answer as I never use the provided wallpapers, preferring to have my desktop rotate among a selection of wallpapers I've collected. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
Thu, 7 May 2020 10:34:47 -0700 Samuel Sieb kirjoitti: > If you do it that way, the next update will reset it and you will > lose your picture. If I have symlink to picture, I doupt, I loose picture, maybe only symlink. Maybe there should be somekind of poll, before new release let users tell, how much they like? To me, as long as there is NOT wincrab wallpaper, I'm happy. Jarmo ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 05/07/2020 11:34 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: If you do it that way, the next update will reset it and you will lose your picture. I use Xfce, and set my background through the Desktop panel in Settings. In fact, I have a whole bunch of images and let them rotate every five minutes because that's what I like. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 5/7/20 4:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-07 19:27, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Today's updates included f32-backgrounds-base. I thought that might be new backgrounds, but what ever it is, it is not in the background colors used by Xfce You can do... rpm -q --filesbypkg f32-backgrounds-base I've always just used "rpm -ql package". I see the long form puts the package name in front of each line, but I'm usually only looking at one package at a time anyway. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 5/7/20 5:16 AM, jarmo wrote: Thu, 7 May 2020 07:27:54 -0400 Robert Moskowitz kirjoitti: Today's updates included f32-backgrounds-base. I thought that might be new backgrounds, but what ever it is, it is not in the background colors used by Xfce I looked /usr/share/backgrounds there is symlink "default" png and it points /usr/share/backgrounds/f32/default/f32.png. Now deleted that symlink and pointed symlink to my image. Also you can put your image there /usr/share/backgrounds and name it as default.png, ofcourse if image in .png format.. If you do it that way, the next update will reset it and you will lose your picture. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
Ed Greshko: >> You can do... >> >> rpm -q --filesbypkg f32-backgrounds-base >> >> to find what was included and where they are. Robert Moskowitz: > Perhaps this is something ingrained in you. Not something I remember > in my annual sojourn into this stuff. I don't remember many rpm options, other than these three: Find info about a package: rpm -qi packagename List contents of a package: rpm -ql packagename Read the changelog (if they bother): rpm -q --changelog packagename I only remember them because I use them occasionally. If I wanted to do anything else, I'd look at the man file to see how, or if what I want to do is an option. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1127.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 31 23:36:51 UTC 2020 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
Thu, 7 May 2020 07:27:54 -0400 Robert Moskowitz kirjoitti: > Today's updates included f32-backgrounds-base. I thought that might > be new backgrounds, but what ever it is, it is not in the background > colors used by Xfce I looked /usr/share/backgrounds there is symlink "default" png and it points /usr/share/backgrounds/f32/default/f32.png. Now deleted that symlink and pointed symlink to my image. Also you can put your image there /usr/share/backgrounds and name it as default.png, ofcourse if image in .png format.. Got that terrible image off my eyes.. :) Jarmo ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 5/7/20 7:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-07 19:27, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Today's updates included f32-backgrounds-base. I thought that might be new backgrounds, but what ever it is, it is not in the background colors used by Xfce You can do... rpm -q --filesbypkg f32-backgrounds-base to find what was included and where they are. Nothing really new. :-( Perhaps this is something ingrained in you. Not something I remember in my annual sojourn into this stuff. Wow, did they fix the default background. Someone is listening into things discussed here! This version is reasonable! I will use it for at least a while to tip my hat, so to speak (I have a real Panama hat from my grandfather that we think he got back in the '30s!), to those working on delivering all this code and stuff to us. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 2020-05-07 19:27, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Today's updates included f32-backgrounds-base. I thought that might be new > backgrounds, but what ever it is, it is not in the background colors used by > Xfce You can do... rpm -q --filesbypkg f32-backgrounds-base to find what was included and where they are. Nothing really new. :-( -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 5/6/20 10:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-07 10:30, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 5/6/20 10:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-07 10:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 5/6/20 10:03 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote: Ugh. And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background. This overly blue and bright background has to go!!! Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it didn't get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems. One person on the list sent me some nice soft blue backgrounds that if I have to use blue they are miles better. I don't like backgrounds with any sort of picture. Soothing soft plain colors for me. Perhaps a green would be better... You said you're using Xfce, yes? If you want a solid color background, then why didn't you select "Style: None" and then "Color: Solid color" and then pick the color you want? I am not seeing this as a feature in the Desktop settings dialog. What are you using for this? Desktop Settings. Here is a screenshot. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a9i45W69SrCUnAxrz9yyw0qICJBCIRf9/view?usp=sharing I saw this and could not get it to work. But since you had it working, I looked again. What option was needed to turn off the picture background and switch to the color? I finally found it was the Style pull down. You have to change that to None for desktop to switch to color. Really obvious of course. Not Thanks Today's updates included f32-backgrounds-base. I thought that might be new backgrounds, but what ever it is, it is not in the background colors used by Xfce ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 2020-05-07 10:30, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > On 5/6/20 10:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-05-07 10:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> >>> On 5/6/20 10:03 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Ugh. > > And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background. > > This overly blue and bright background has to go!!! Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it didn't get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems. >>> One person on the list sent me some nice soft blue backgrounds that if I >>> have to use blue they are miles better. >>> >>> I don't like backgrounds with any sort of picture. Soothing soft plain >>> colors for me. Perhaps a green would be better... >>> >> You said you're using Xfce, yes? >> >> If you want a solid color background, then why didn't you select "Style: >> None" and then >> "Color: Solid color" and then pick the color you want? >> >> > I am not seeing this as a feature in the Desktop settings dialog. > > What are you using for this? > > Desktop Settings. Here is a screenshot. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a9i45W69SrCUnAxrz9yyw0qICJBCIRf9/view?usp=sharing -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 5/6/20 10:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-07 10:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 5/6/20 10:03 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote: Ugh. And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background. This overly blue and bright background has to go!!! Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it didn't get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems. One person on the list sent me some nice soft blue backgrounds that if I have to use blue they are miles better. I don't like backgrounds with any sort of picture. Soothing soft plain colors for me. Perhaps a green would be better... You said you're using Xfce, yes? If you want a solid color background, then why didn't you select "Style: None" and then "Color: Solid color" and then pick the color you want? I am not seeing this as a feature in the Desktop settings dialog. What are you using for this? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 2020-05-07 10:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > On 5/6/20 10:03 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: >> On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> Ugh. >>> >>> And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background. >>> >>> This overly blue and bright background has to go!!! >> Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe >> their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it didn't >> get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems. >> > One person on the list sent me some nice soft blue backgrounds that if I have > to use blue they are miles better. > > I don't like backgrounds with any sort of picture. Soothing soft plain > colors for me. Perhaps a green would be better... > You said you're using Xfce, yes? If you want a solid color background, then why didn't you select "Style: None" and then "Color: Solid color" and then pick the color you want? -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 5/6/20 10:03 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote: Ugh. And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background. This overly blue and bright background has to go!!! Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it didn't get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems. One person on the list sent me some nice soft blue backgrounds that if I have to use blue they are miles better. I don't like backgrounds with any sort of picture. Soothing soft plain colors for me. Perhaps a green would be better... Anyway I am off the default. It is AWFUL. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Ugh. > > And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background. > > This overly blue and bright background has to go!!! Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it didn't get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems. -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 2020-05-06 10:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I don't have a right click on an empty workspace (on the background) that > gives me "Change Background" > > Oh, perhaps because I am using Xfce? > > I do have Desktop Setting which has a background tab which only offers the > default background. > > hmmm. How to get the backgrounds from some other desktop? It would have been helpful to mention Xfce. Anyway, you could do... dnf install schroedinger-cat-backgrounds-extras-xfce And then point the background tab to the directory /usr/share/backgrounds/schroedinger-cat/extras and there will be a group of images to pick from -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 5/5/20 10:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-06 10:06, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 5/5/20 9:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-06 09:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 5/5/20 9:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-06 09:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background. This overly blue and bright background has to go!!! You can change the default. Yes and no. You can change it, but you need something to change it to... Still moving all my stuff over. Eventually I will get to my pic folder. There are other images available which can be an acceptable alternative before you're done moving things. Oh? Where? The images directory only has the default background. Well, on my default F32 Workstation installed in a VM with no extra packages installed. If I right click on the background after I login and select "Change Background" I'm presented with a group of options. I don't have a right click on an empty workspace (on the background) that gives me "Change Background" Oh, perhaps because I am using Xfce? I do have Desktop Setting which has a background tab which only offers the default background. hmmm. How to get the backgrounds from some other desktop? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 2020-05-06 10:06, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > On 5/5/20 9:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-05-06 09:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 5/5/20 9:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-06 09:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background. > > This overly blue and bright background has to go!!! You can change the default. >>> Yes and no. >>> >>> You can change it, but you need something to change it to... >>> >>> Still moving all my stuff over. Eventually I will get to my pic folder. >>> >>> >> >> There are other images available which can be an acceptable alternative >> before you're >> done moving things. > > Oh? Where? > > The images directory only has the default background. > Well, on my default F32 Workstation installed in a VM with no extra packages installed. If I right click on the background after I login and select "Change Background" I'm presented with a group of options. -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 5/5/20 9:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-06 09:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 5/5/20 9:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-06 09:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background. This overly blue and bright background has to go!!! You can change the default. Yes and no. You can change it, but you need something to change it to... Still moving all my stuff over. Eventually I will get to my pic folder. There are other images available which can be an acceptable alternative before you're done moving things. Oh? Where? The images directory only has the default background. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 2020-05-06 09:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > On 5/5/20 9:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-05-06 09:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background. >>> >>> This overly blue and bright background has to go!!! >> You can change the default. >> > Yes and no. > > You can change it, but you need something to change it to... > > Still moving all my stuff over. Eventually I will get to my pic folder. > > There are other images available which can be an acceptable alternative before you're done moving things. -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 5/5/20 9:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-06 09:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background. This overly blue and bright background has to go!!! You can change the default. Yes and no. You can change it, but you need something to change it to... Still moving all my stuff over. Eventually I will get to my pic folder. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F32 - terrible background
On 2020-05-06 09:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background. > > This overly blue and bright background has to go!!! You can change the default. -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org