Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-07 Thread jarmo
Thu, 7 May 2020 22:25:14 -0600
Joe Zeff  kirjoitti:

> They wouldn't like my answer as I never use the provided wallpapers, 
> preferring to have my desktop rotate among a selection of wallpapers 
> I've collected.

Anyway, it's only eyecandy, not matter of life. No effect
to deep waters.. :)

Jarmo
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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-07 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/7/20 7:51 PM, jarmo wrote:

Thu, 7 May 2020 10:34:47 -0700
Samuel Sieb  kirjoitti:



If you do it that way, the next update will reset it and you will
lose your picture.


If I have symlink to picture, I doupt, I loose
picture, maybe only symlink.


If it's a symlink, then yes, it would just change your background to the 
default, but there was also a suggestion to replace the default file 
with a different picture which would be replaced.

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-07 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/07/2020 08:51 PM, jarmo wrote:

Maybe there should be somekind of poll, before new release
let users tell, how much they like?
To me, as long as there is NOT wincrab wallpaper, I'm happy.


They wouldn't like my answer as I never use the provided wallpapers, 
preferring to have my desktop rotate among a selection of wallpapers 
I've collected.

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-07 Thread jarmo
Thu, 7 May 2020 10:34:47 -0700
Samuel Sieb  kirjoitti:


> If you do it that way, the next update will reset it and you will
> lose your picture.

If I have symlink to picture, I doupt, I loose
picture, maybe only symlink.

Maybe there should be somekind of poll, before new release
let users tell, how much they like?
To me, as long as there is NOT wincrab wallpaper, I'm happy.

Jarmo
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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-07 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/07/2020 11:34 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:


If you do it that way, the next update will reset it and you will lose 
your picture.


I use Xfce, and set my background through the Desktop panel in Settings. 
 In fact, I have a whole bunch of images and let them rotate every five 
minutes because that's what I like.

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-07 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/7/20 4:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-05-07 19:27, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Today's updates included f32-backgrounds-base.  I thought that might 
be new backgrounds, but what ever it is, it is not in the background 
colors used by Xfce 


You can do...

rpm -q --filesbypkg f32-backgrounds-base


I've always just used "rpm -ql package".  I see the long form puts the 
package name in front of each line, but I'm usually only looking at one 
package at a time anyway.

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-07 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/7/20 5:16 AM, jarmo wrote:

Thu, 7 May 2020 07:27:54 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  kirjoitti:

Today's updates included f32-backgrounds-base.  I thought that might
be new backgrounds, but what ever it is, it is not in the background
colors used by Xfce


I looked /usr/share/backgrounds there is symlink "default" png
and it points /usr/share/backgrounds/f32/default/f32.png.
Now deleted that symlink and pointed symlink to my image. Also
you can put your image there /usr/share/backgrounds and name it
as default.png, ofcourse if image in .png format..


If you do it that way, the next update will reset it and you will lose 
your picture.

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-07 Thread Tim via users
Ed Greshko:
>> You can do...
>>
>> rpm -q --filesbypkg f32-backgrounds-base
>>
>> to find what was included and where they are.


Robert Moskowitz:
> Perhaps this is something ingrained in you.  Not something I remember
> in my annual sojourn into this stuff.

I don't remember many rpm options, other than these three:

Find info about a package:  rpm -qi packagename

List contents of a package:  rpm -ql packagename

Read the changelog (if they bother): rpm -q --changelog packagename

I only remember them because I use them occasionally.  If I wanted to
do anything else, I'd look at the man file to see how, or if what I
want to do is an option.
 
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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-07 Thread jarmo
Thu, 7 May 2020 07:27:54 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  kirjoitti:


> Today's updates included f32-backgrounds-base.  I thought that might
> be new backgrounds, but what ever it is, it is not in the background
> colors used by Xfce

I looked /usr/share/backgrounds there is symlink "default" png
and it points /usr/share/backgrounds/f32/default/f32.png.
Now deleted that symlink and pointed symlink to my image. Also
you can put your image there /usr/share/backgrounds and name it
as default.png, ofcourse if image in .png format..

Got that terrible image off my eyes.. :)

Jarmo
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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-07 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/7/20 7:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-05-07 19:27, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Today's updates included f32-backgrounds-base.  I thought that might 
be new backgrounds, but what ever it is, it is not in the background 
colors used by Xfce 


You can do...

rpm -q --filesbypkg f32-backgrounds-base

to find what was included and where they are.  Nothing really new.  :-(


Perhaps this is something ingrained in you.  Not something I remember in 
my annual sojourn into this stuff.


Wow, did they fix the default background.

Someone is listening into things discussed here!

This version is reasonable!  I will use it for at least a while to tip 
my hat, so to speak (I have a real Panama hat from my grandfather that 
we think he got back in the '30s!), to those working on delivering all 
this code and stuff to us.




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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-07 19:27, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Today's updates included f32-backgrounds-base.  I thought that might be new 
> backgrounds, but what ever it is, it is not in the background colors used by 
> Xfce 

You can do...

rpm -q --filesbypkg f32-backgrounds-base

to find what was included and where they are.  Nothing really new.  :-(

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-07 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/6/20 10:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-05-07 10:30, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 5/6/20 10:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-05-07 10:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 5/6/20 10:03 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Ugh.

And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.

This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!
Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users 
to believe
their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really 
surprised it didn't
get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, 
it seems.


One person on the list sent me some nice soft blue backgrounds that 
if I have to use blue they are miles better.


I don't like backgrounds with any sort of picture.  Soothing soft 
plain colors for me.  Perhaps a green would be better...



You said you're using Xfce, yes?

If you want a solid color background, then why didn't you select 
"Style: None" and then

"Color: Solid color" and then pick the color you want?



I am not seeing this as a feature in the Desktop settings dialog.

What are you using for this?




Desktop Settings.  Here is a screenshot.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a9i45W69SrCUnAxrz9yyw0qICJBCIRf9/view?usp=sharing



I saw this and could not get it to work.  But since you had it working, 
I looked again.  What option was needed to turn off the picture 
background and switch to the color?


I finally found it was the Style pull down.  You have to change that to 
None for desktop to switch to color.


Really obvious of course.

Not

Thanks

Today's updates included f32-backgrounds-base.  I thought that might be 
new backgrounds, but what ever it is, it is not in the background colors 
used by Xfce


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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-07 10:30, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
>
> On 5/6/20 10:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 2020-05-07 10:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>>
>>> On 5/6/20 10:03 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
 On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Ugh.
>
> And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.
>
> This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!
 Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe
 their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it 
 didn't
 get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems.

>>> One person on the list sent me some nice soft blue backgrounds that if I 
>>> have to use blue they are miles better.
>>>
>>> I don't like backgrounds with any sort of picture.  Soothing soft plain 
>>> colors for me.  Perhaps a green would be better...
>>>
>> You said you're using Xfce, yes?
>>
>> If you want a solid color background, then why didn't you select "Style: 
>> None" and then
>> "Color: Solid color" and then pick the color you want?
>>
>>
> I am not seeing this as a feature in the Desktop settings dialog.
>
> What are you using for this?
>
>

Desktop Settings.  Here is a screenshot.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a9i45W69SrCUnAxrz9yyw0qICJBCIRf9/view?usp=sharing

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/6/20 10:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-05-07 10:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 5/6/20 10:03 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Ugh.

And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.

This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!

Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe
their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it didn't
get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems.


One person on the list sent me some nice soft blue backgrounds that if I have 
to use blue they are miles better.

I don't like backgrounds with any sort of picture.  Soothing soft plain colors 
for me.  Perhaps a green would be better...


You said you're using Xfce, yes?

If you want a solid color background, then why didn't you select "Style: None" 
and then
"Color: Solid color" and then pick the color you want?



I am not seeing this as a feature in the Desktop settings dialog.

What are you using for this?

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-07 10:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
>
> On 5/6/20 10:03 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>> Ugh.
>>>
>>> And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.
>>>
>>> This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!
>> Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe
>> their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it didn't
>> get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems.
>>
> One person on the list sent me some nice soft blue backgrounds that if I have 
> to use blue they are miles better.
>
> I don't like backgrounds with any sort of picture.  Soothing soft plain 
> colors for me.  Perhaps a green would be better...
>

You said you're using Xfce, yes?

If you want a solid color background, then why didn't you select "Style: None" 
and then
"Color: Solid color" and then pick the color you want? 


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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/6/20 10:03 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Ugh.

And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.

This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!

Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe
their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it didn't
get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems.

One person on the list sent me some nice soft blue backgrounds that if I 
have to use blue they are miles better.


I don't like backgrounds with any sort of picture.  Soothing soft plain 
colors for me.  Perhaps a green would be better...


Anyway I am off the default.  It is AWFUL.

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Ugh.
> 
> And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.
> 
> This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!

Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe 
their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it didn't 
get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems.

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-06 10:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I don't have a right click on an empty workspace (on the background) that 
> gives me "Change Background"
>
> Oh, perhaps because I am using Xfce?
>
> I do have Desktop Setting which has a background tab which only offers the 
> default background.
>
> hmmm.  How to get the backgrounds from some other desktop?

It would have been helpful to mention Xfce.  Anyway, you could do...

dnf install schroedinger-cat-backgrounds-extras-xfce

And then point the background tab to the directory

/usr/share/backgrounds/schroedinger-cat/extras

and there will be a group of images to pick from

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/5/20 10:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-05-06 10:06, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 5/5/20 9:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-05-06 09:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 5/5/20 9:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-05-06 09:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.

This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!

You can change the default.


Yes and no.

You can change it, but you need something to change it to...

Still moving all my stuff over.  Eventually I will get to my pic folder.



There are other images available which can be an acceptable alternative before 
you're
done moving things.

Oh?  Where?

The images directory only has the default background.


Well, on my default F32 Workstation installed in a VM with no extra packages 
installed.

If I right click on the background after I login and select "Change Background" 
I'm
presented with a group of options.


I don't have a right click on an empty workspace (on the background) 
that gives me "Change Background"


Oh, perhaps because I am using Xfce?

I do have Desktop Setting which has a background tab which only offers 
the default background.


hmmm.  How to get the backgrounds from some other desktop?

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-06 10:06, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
>
> On 5/5/20 9:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 2020-05-06 09:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/5/20 9:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 2020-05-06 09:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.
>
> This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!
 You can change the default.

>>> Yes and no.
>>>
>>> You can change it, but you need something to change it to...
>>>
>>> Still moving all my stuff over.  Eventually I will get to my pic folder.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There are other images available which can be an acceptable alternative 
>> before you're
>> done moving things.
>
> Oh?  Where?
>
> The images directory only has the default background.
>

Well, on my default F32 Workstation installed in a VM with no extra packages 
installed.

If I right click on the background after I login and select "Change Background" 
I'm
presented with a group of options.



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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/5/20 9:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-05-06 09:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 5/5/20 9:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-05-06 09:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.

This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!

You can change the default.


Yes and no.

You can change it, but you need something to change it to...

Still moving all my stuff over.  Eventually I will get to my pic folder.




There are other images available which can be an acceptable 
alternative before you're

done moving things.


Oh?  Where?

The images directory only has the default background.
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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-06 09:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
>
> On 5/5/20 9:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 2020-05-06 09:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>> And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.
>>>
>>> This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!
>> You can change the default.
>>
> Yes and no.
>
> You can change it, but you need something to change it to...
>
> Still moving all my stuff over.  Eventually I will get to my pic folder.
>
>

There are other images available which can be an acceptable alternative before 
you're
done moving things.

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/5/20 9:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-05-06 09:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.

This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!

You can change the default.


Yes and no.

You can change it, but you need something to change it to...

Still moving all my stuff over.  Eventually I will get to my pic folder.

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-06 09:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.
>
> This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!

You can change the default.

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