Re: Firefox and gmail troubles

2015-12-31 Thread Rick Stevens

On 12/30/2015 08:05 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

It doesn't happen in the VM, which has Firefox 41. So I might try
reverting to that version next...

Another symptom is that things hang a lot. Even dnf will hang
midstream downloading either a package or metadata. No error, no fail,
no recovery, just indefinite stall. If I cancel it and just issue the
same command, it always completes. And yet non-google sites load find
in Firefox. So I can't tell if the dnf stall is related to the
Firefox+google services stall.


Are you on a wifi or wired connection? What you're describing sounds
an awful lot like a dropping wifi connection. If you are on wifi, check
the journals for problems relating that.
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Re: Firefox and gmail troubles

2015-12-31 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> On 12/30/2015 08:05 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> It doesn't happen in the VM, which has Firefox 41. So I might try
>> reverting to that version next...
>>
>> Another symptom is that things hang a lot. Even dnf will hang
>> midstream downloading either a package or metadata. No error, no fail,
>> no recovery, just indefinite stall. If I cancel it and just issue the
>> same command, it always completes. And yet non-google sites load find
>> in Firefox. So I can't tell if the dnf stall is related to the
>> Firefox+google services stall.
>
>
> Are you on a wifi or wired connection? What you're describing sounds
> an awful lot like a dropping wifi connection. If you are on wifi, check
> the journals for problems relating that.

Wired. The journal contains no messages at the time of these events,
so if there's a state change that explains this, it's not a loggable
one.

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Re: Firefox and gmail troubles

2015-12-31 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Chris Murphy  wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Rick Stevens  wrote:
>> On 12/30/2015 08:05 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>>
>>> It doesn't happen in the VM, which has Firefox 41. So I might try
>>> reverting to that version next...
>>>
>>> Another symptom is that things hang a lot. Even dnf will hang
>>> midstream downloading either a package or metadata. No error, no fail,
>>> no recovery, just indefinite stall. If I cancel it and just issue the
>>> same command, it always completes. And yet non-google sites load find
>>> in Firefox. So I can't tell if the dnf stall is related to the
>>> Firefox+google services stall.
>>
>>
>> Are you on a wifi or wired connection? What you're describing sounds
>> an awful lot like a dropping wifi connection. If you are on wifi, check
>> the journals for problems relating that.
>
> Wired. The journal contains no messages at the time of these events,
> so if there's a state change that explains this, it's not a loggable
> one.

Keep in mind the baremetal system that it consistently happens on, has
a VM running in which it does not happen.

The other manifestations are google searches and account switches
hanging. For search, I usually use the URL field to do the search and
then hit return. The typical result is nearly instant but no results
are displayed, just the google search bar and under that the
qualifiers All Video News Maps Imaging Shopping, and then white space
where there should be search results but there are none. I click
reload icon on the right side of the URL field but instead of
reloading, the URL field is replaced by gray "Search or Enter Address"
as if nothing had previously been entered or loaded. If I try again
using the exact same steps, it works normally. It's a total crap
shoot.

For account switching, click on my gmail account icon on the upper
right, choose add account, yadda yadda and I get "Loading
who...@whatever.com..." with a progress bar, and 1/2 the time I do
this that progress bar just hangs at some point and then nothing. No
error, no recovery, total hang. Click reload, kablewy, nothing in the
URL field, it's just a new blank empty tab. It's so totally fakaked.

But I'll be dammed if anything like this happens with duck duck go, or
anything on fedoraproject.org, or Hacker News, or any other sites.
It's really just google stuff, and then dnf. But again I don't know
that those things are related as dnf is often hanging on a headless
Intel NUC also.


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Re: Firefox and gmail troubles

2015-12-31 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 10:59:44AM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Chris Murphy  
> wrote:
> 
> Keep in mind the baremetal system that it consistently happens on, has
> a VM running in which it does not happen.
> 
> The other manifestations are google searches and account switches
> hanging. For search, I usually use the URL field to do the search and
> then hit return. The typical result is nearly instant but no results
> are displayed, just the google search bar and under that the
> qualifiers All Video News Maps Imaging Shopping, and then white space
> where there should be search results but there are none. I click
> reload icon on the right side of the URL field but instead of
> reloading, the URL field is replaced by gray "Search or Enter Address"
> as if nothing had previously been entered or loaded. If I try again
> using the exact same steps, it works normally. It's a total crap
> shoot.
> 

Putting on my Way-back-hat, that sounds like what I used to
see when multiple processes were trying to read from stdin
at the same time.

For me it happened most often on Solaris when X would crash
and the display manager would not restart.  There might be
a shell process and a terminal login process, or two login
processes competing for the tty input.

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Re: Firefox and gmail troubles

2015-12-31 Thread Chris Murphy
Downgraded to firefox-42.0-5.fc23.x86_64 and the problem isn't
happening anymore. *shrug*

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1236069
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Re: Firefox and gmail troubles

2015-12-30 Thread Chris Murphy
It doesn't happen in the VM, which has Firefox 41. So I might try
reverting to that version next...

Another symptom is that things hang a lot. Even dnf will hang
midstream downloading either a package or metadata. No error, no fail,
no recovery, just indefinite stall. If I cancel it and just issue the
same command, it always completes. And yet non-google sites load find
in Firefox. So I can't tell if the dnf stall is related to the
Firefox+google services stall.


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