Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13
Frode wrote: > Jim skrev: >> On 08/20/2010 03:11 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >>> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:38:29 +0200, Jon wrote: >>> OK, I have done "yum upgrade" but after down load of all packages I get transacton error: file /lib64/libdb-4.7.so from install of compat-db47-4.7.25-15.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from package db4-4.7.25-13.fc12.x86_64 >>> There's a much newer db4 in Fedora 13 Updates, which should replace your >>> old one from F12: >>> >>> db4.i686 4.8.30-1.fc13 >>> @updates >>> db4.x86_644.8.30-1.fc13 >>> @updates >>> file /usr/lib64/nautilus-sendto/plugins/libnstbluetooth.so from install of gnome-bluetooth-2.30.0-1.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from package nautilus-sendto-2.28.2-2.fc12.x86_64 >>> What do you get for "yum list nautilus-sendto"? >>> There's a newer on in Fedora 13 Updates: >>> >>> nautilus-sendto.x86_64 2.28.4-3.fc13 >>> updates >>> And I am not sure what I should do now. Any comments? >>> Verify your repository configuration and run some yum (or repoquery) >>> queries to show which package versions are available. >> Here is the sequence you do the upgrade. >> >> >> 1. Install the two Fedora-release-fc13 rpm's >> >> 2. do "yum clean all" >> >> 3. do "yum upgrade" >> >> 4. Reboot >> >> 5. and "yum remove kernel-fc12" >> >> > > Just curious: If I understand correctly, you don't use preupgrade. What > are the pros/cons of the two methods? > > I have previously only used fresh installs, but maybe upgrading could be > worth a try afterall? > There are two issues, one being to upgrade or full install, and one being if you upgrade to do it using the network (preinstall) or the "upgrade existing OS" option of an install DVD. I generally reinstall, but having done 4-5 upgrades in the last few days, using install DVD media, and if you are willing to accept that the upgrade will probably not be as clean as an install in terms of filesystem setup or leaving a few configs in an old setting, then the benefit is that it will be faster to upgrade and you will preserve your custom settings *in most cases*. The more revisions between the initial and current revision the higher chance of problems, some functional, and some just things like using old filesystem types or config files. People go either way, depending on which issues they most want to avoid. Have good backups of critical stuff, whichever way you go. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13
Jim skrev: > On 08/20/2010 03:11 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:38:29 +0200, Jon wrote: >> >>> OK, I have done "yum upgrade" but after down load of all packages I get >>> transacton error: >>> >>> file /lib64/libdb-4.7.so from install of >>> compat-db47-4.7.25-15.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from package >>> db4-4.7.25-13.fc12.x86_64 >> There's a much newer db4 in Fedora 13 Updates, which should replace your >> old one from F12: >> >> db4.i686 4.8.30-1.fc13 >> @updates >> db4.x86_644.8.30-1.fc13 >> @updates >> >>> file /usr/lib64/nautilus-sendto/plugins/libnstbluetooth.so from >>> install of gnome-bluetooth-2.30.0-1.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from >>> package nautilus-sendto-2.28.2-2.fc12.x86_64 >> What do you get for "yum list nautilus-sendto"? >> There's a newer on in Fedora 13 Updates: >> >> nautilus-sendto.x86_64 2.28.4-3.fc13 >> updates >> >>> And I am not sure what I should do now. Any comments? >> Verify your repository configuration and run some yum (or repoquery) >> queries to show which package versions are available. > > Here is the sequence you do the upgrade. > > > 1. Install the two Fedora-release-fc13 rpm's > > 2. do "yum clean all" > > 3. do "yum upgrade" > > 4. Reboot > > 5. and "yum remove kernel-fc12" > > Just curious: If I understand correctly, you don't use preupgrade. What are the pros/cons of the two methods? I have previously only used fresh installs, but maybe upgrading could be worth a try afterall? Regards, Frode -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13
Bill Davidsen wrote: > Jon Ingason wrote: > > >> I have goggled and not found this problem. Have other same problem with >> x86_64 or is there other way to do this without resizing /boot? >> >> > In answer to this specific question, yes there is. You can boot off an FC13 > install DVD and select the upgrade (1st IIRC) option. Somewhere in the next > few > screens it will have radio buttons to install or upgrade. Be careful, the > default is install (again from memory). You then get the option to select > which > install to replace (I assume only one), and let it run. > That did not happen when I was trying to upgrade from FC8 to FC13. Maybe that was my problem? Anyway, I've decided to go another route and let's see if this works. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13
Jon Ingason wrote: > I have goggled and not found this problem. Have other same problem with > x86_64 or is there other way to do this without resizing /boot? > In answer to this specific question, yes there is. You can boot off an FC13 install DVD and select the upgrade (1st IIRC) option. Somewhere in the next few screens it will have radio buttons to install or upgrade. Be careful, the default is install (again from memory). You then get the option to select which install to replace (I assume only one), and let it run. Before sexy preupgrade methods that was the method of choice. I did it from FC11 to FC13 recently, other than taking a while it worked flawlessly. > PS The rest of the disk is LVM on both computers. I'm sure there are wonders to preupgrade, but putting stuff on my disk from the network could run into disk space issues and can take a long time if the network isn't fast (yes, there are actual human beings running T1). And it doesn't scale, while a handful of DVDs does. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13
On 08/20/2010 03:11 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:38:29 +0200, Jon wrote: > >> OK, I have done "yum upgrade" but after down load of all packages I get >> transacton error: >> >> file /lib64/libdb-4.7.so from install of >> compat-db47-4.7.25-15.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from package >> db4-4.7.25-13.fc12.x86_64 > There's a much newer db4 in Fedora 13 Updates, which should replace your > old one from F12: > > db4.i686 4.8.30-1.fc13 > @updates > db4.x86_644.8.30-1.fc13 > @updates > >> file /usr/lib64/nautilus-sendto/plugins/libnstbluetooth.so from >> install of gnome-bluetooth-2.30.0-1.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from >> package nautilus-sendto-2.28.2-2.fc12.x86_64 > What do you get for "yum list nautilus-sendto"? > There's a newer on in Fedora 13 Updates: > > nautilus-sendto.x86_64 2.28.4-3.fc13 > updates > >> And I am not sure what I should do now. Any comments? > Verify your repository configuration and run some yum (or repoquery) > queries to show which package versions are available. Here is the sequence you do the upgrade. 1. Install the two Fedora-release-fc13 rpm's 2. do "yum clean all" 3. do "yum upgrade" 4. Reboot 5. and "yum remove kernel-fc12" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13
On 08/20/2010 02:38 PM, Jon Ingason wrote: > 2010-08-20 19:42, Jon Ingason skrev: >> 2010-08-20 18:28, Jim skrev: >>> On 08/20/2010 11:30 AM, Jon Ingason wrote: Hi, Have to computer where I run Fedora. One is i686 (Pentium III (Coppermine) 800 MHz), 512 Mbytes memory and the other one is x86_64 (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 1800 MHz, 2 Gbytes memory. I had installed F12 on both of them. The /boot (ext4) is 200 Mbytes on both computer. I decided to do preupgrade on both (F12 -> F13). Since the /boot is only 200 Mbytes I followed the instructions published on Fedora wiki "How to use PreUpgrade" (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade). The preupgrade of the i686 went fine. It only did do the first step so when I rebooted the computer I only needed to configure the network as stated in the wiki. When I tried to preupgrade the x86_64 using same method as with the i686 the /boot got full and the preupgrade program crashed. I have goggled and not found this problem. Have other same problem with x86_64 or is there other way to do this without resizing /boot? PS The rest of the disk is LVM on both computers. >>> I have found the easiest way to upgrade is get the latest >>> "Fedora-release" and "Fedora-release-notes" from the F13 mirrors and >>> "rpm -Uvh" both rpm's into F12 , then do a "yum clean all" and lastly >>> "yum upgrade" from command line . >>> >>> It will replace all your F12 rpm's with F13 rpm's and then you Reboot >>> your computer into a F13 kernel, and the LAST thing you have to do is " >>> rpm -qa | grep kernel" that will display all the F12 kernels left >>> behind, you do a "yum remove" any kernels left behind. If I use the >>> command line and Copy and Paste those old F12 kernels at "yum remove" >>> it makes it easier. >>> >>> And very lastly you got a Brand Spanking new F13 to boot from. >>> >>> I have done a lot of F12>F13 boxes that way without any problems. >>> >>> Be sure to leave out all the quotes I put in this email. >> Thanks, I will try this. >> > OK, I have done "yum upgrade" but after down load of all packages I get > transacton error: > > file /lib64/libdb-4.7.so from install of > compat-db47-4.7.25-15.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from package > db4-4.7.25-13.fc12.x86_64 > file /usr/lib64/nautilus-sendto/plugins/libnstbluetooth.so from > install of gnome-bluetooth-2.30.0-1.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from > package nautilus-sendto-2.28.2-2.fc12.x86_64 > > And I am not sure what I should do now. Any comments? > You install the two Fedora-release rpm's and you do "yum clean all" before doing upgrade ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:38:29 +0200, Jon wrote: > OK, I have done "yum upgrade" but after down load of all packages I get > transacton error: > >file /lib64/libdb-4.7.so from install of > compat-db47-4.7.25-15.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from package > db4-4.7.25-13.fc12.x86_64 There's a much newer db4 in Fedora 13 Updates, which should replace your old one from F12: db4.i686 4.8.30-1.fc13 @updates db4.x86_644.8.30-1.fc13 @updates >file /usr/lib64/nautilus-sendto/plugins/libnstbluetooth.so from > install of gnome-bluetooth-2.30.0-1.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from > package nautilus-sendto-2.28.2-2.fc12.x86_64 What do you get for "yum list nautilus-sendto"? There's a newer on in Fedora 13 Updates: nautilus-sendto.x86_64 2.28.4-3.fc13 updates > And I am not sure what I should do now. Any comments? Verify your repository configuration and run some yum (or repoquery) queries to show which package versions are available. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13
2010-08-20 19:42, Jon Ingason skrev: > 2010-08-20 18:28, Jim skrev: >> On 08/20/2010 11:30 AM, Jon Ingason wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Have to computer where I run Fedora. One is i686 (Pentium III >>> (Coppermine) 800 MHz), 512 Mbytes memory and the other one is x86_64 >>> (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 1800 MHz, 2 Gbytes >>> memory. I had installed F12 on both of them. The /boot (ext4) is 200 >>> Mbytes on both computer. I decided to do preupgrade on both (F12 -> >>> F13). Since the /boot is only 200 Mbytes I followed the instructions >>> published on Fedora wiki "How to use PreUpgrade" >>> (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade). >>> >>> The preupgrade of the i686 went fine. It only did do the first step so >>> when I rebooted the computer I only needed to configure the network as >>> stated in the wiki. When I tried to preupgrade the x86_64 using same >>> method as with the i686 the /boot got full and the preupgrade program >>> crashed. >>> >>> I have goggled and not found this problem. Have other same problem with >>> x86_64 or is there other way to do this without resizing /boot? >>> >>> PS The rest of the disk is LVM on both computers. >> I have found the easiest way to upgrade is get the latest >> "Fedora-release" and "Fedora-release-notes" from the F13 mirrors and >> "rpm -Uvh" both rpm's into F12 , then do a "yum clean all" and lastly >> "yum upgrade" from command line . >> >> It will replace all your F12 rpm's with F13 rpm's and then you Reboot >> your computer into a F13 kernel, and the LAST thing you have to do is " >> rpm -qa | grep kernel" that will display all the F12 kernels left >> behind, you do a "yum remove" any kernels left behind. If I use the >> command line and Copy and Paste those old F12 kernels at "yum remove" >> it makes it easier. >> >> And very lastly you got a Brand Spanking new F13 to boot from. >> >> I have done a lot of F12> F13 boxes that way without any problems. >> >> Be sure to leave out all the quotes I put in this email. > > Thanks, I will try this. > OK, I have done "yum upgrade" but after down load of all packages I get transacton error: file /lib64/libdb-4.7.so from install of compat-db47-4.7.25-15.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from package db4-4.7.25-13.fc12.x86_64 file /usr/lib64/nautilus-sendto/plugins/libnstbluetooth.so from install of gnome-bluetooth-2.30.0-1.fc13.x86_64 conflicts with file from package nautilus-sendto-2.28.2-2.fc12.x86_64 And I am not sure what I should do now. Any comments? -- Regards Jon Ingason -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13
2010-08-20 18:28, Jim skrev: >On 08/20/2010 11:30 AM, Jon Ingason wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Have to computer where I run Fedora. One is i686 (Pentium III >> (Coppermine) 800 MHz), 512 Mbytes memory and the other one is x86_64 >> (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 1800 MHz, 2 Gbytes >> memory. I had installed F12 on both of them. The /boot (ext4) is 200 >> Mbytes on both computer. I decided to do preupgrade on both (F12 -> >> F13). Since the /boot is only 200 Mbytes I followed the instructions >> published on Fedora wiki "How to use PreUpgrade" >> (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade). >> >> The preupgrade of the i686 went fine. It only did do the first step so >> when I rebooted the computer I only needed to configure the network as >> stated in the wiki. When I tried to preupgrade the x86_64 using same >> method as with the i686 the /boot got full and the preupgrade program >> crashed. >> >> I have goggled and not found this problem. Have other same problem with >> x86_64 or is there other way to do this without resizing /boot? >> >> PS The rest of the disk is LVM on both computers. > I have found the easiest way to upgrade is get the latest > "Fedora-release" and "Fedora-release-notes" from the F13 mirrors and > "rpm -Uvh" both rpm's into F12 , then do a "yum clean all" and lastly > "yum upgrade" from command line . > > It will replace all your F12 rpm's with F13 rpm's and then you Reboot > your computer into a F13 kernel, and the LAST thing you have to do is " > rpm -qa | grep kernel" that will display all the F12 kernels left > behind, you do a "yum remove" any kernels left behind. If I use the > command line and Copy and Paste those old F12 kernels at "yum remove" > it makes it easier. > > And very lastly you got a Brand Spanking new F13 to boot from. > > I have done a lot of F12> F13 boxes that way without any problems. > > Be sure to leave out all the quotes I put in this email. Thanks, I will try this. -- Regards Jon Ingason -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 17:30 +0200, Jon Ingason wrote: > The preupgrade of the i686 went fine. It only did do the first step > so > when I rebooted the computer I only needed to configure the network > as > stated in the wiki. When I tried to preupgrade the x86_64 using same > method as with the i686 the /boot got full and the preupgrade program > crashed. > > I have goggled and not found this problem. Have other same problem > with > x86_64 or is there other way to do this without resizing /boot? It's not x86_64 per se, but 64-bit binaries are larger then 32-bit ones. Also, you may have several earlier kernels already installed in /boot. If so, trying removing some (leave at least one as a backup of course) and try again. Also, check the archives of this list where space problems with preupgrade have been discussed before. Around the release date of F13 would probably be a good place to start looking. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problem when upgrading from F12 to F13
On 08/20/2010 11:30 AM, Jon Ingason wrote: > Hi, > > Have to computer where I run Fedora. One is i686 (Pentium III > (Coppermine) 800 MHz), 512 Mbytes memory and the other one is x86_64 > (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 1800 MHz, 2 Gbytes > memory. I had installed F12 on both of them. The /boot (ext4) is 200 > Mbytes on both computer. I decided to do preupgrade on both (F12 -> > F13). Since the /boot is only 200 Mbytes I followed the instructions > published on Fedora wiki "How to use PreUpgrade" > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade). > > The preupgrade of the i686 went fine. It only did do the first step so > when I rebooted the computer I only needed to configure the network as > stated in the wiki. When I tried to preupgrade the x86_64 using same > method as with the i686 the /boot got full and the preupgrade program > crashed. > > I have goggled and not found this problem. Have other same problem with > x86_64 or is there other way to do this without resizing /boot? > > PS The rest of the disk is LVM on both computers. I have found the easiest way to upgrade is get the latest "Fedora-release" and "Fedora-release-notes" from the F13 mirrors and "rpm -Uvh" both rpm's into F12 , then do a "yum clean all" and lastly "yum upgrade" from command line . It will replace all your F12 rpm's with F13 rpm's and then you Reboot your computer into a F13 kernel, and the LAST thing you have to do is " rpm -qa | grep kernel" that will display all the F12 kernels left behind, you do a "yum remove" any kernels left behind. If I use the command line and Copy and Paste those old F12 kernels at "yum remove" it makes it easier. And very lastly you got a Brand Spanking new F13 to boot from. I have done a lot of F12 > F13 boxes that way without any problems. Be sure to leave out all the quotes I put in this email. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
