Re: fedora 23 bluetooth connection

2016-07-28 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 01:33:00AM -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:57:24PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 05:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Something changed (although not fatally):
> > > > I use Bluetooth speakers quite often.
> > > > Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused
> > > > Fedora to connect to it.
> > > > Several months ago, now on F23,  (not sure when this problem appeared)
> > > > that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into
> > > > Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it
> > > > and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will
> > > > eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound
> > > > Settings" after which it works fine.
> > > > Is there a path back? 
> > > > 
> > > > The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64
> > > > TIA,
> > > 
> > > I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE.  The GUI may be different but I 
> > > think gnome
> > > should have similar settings.
> > > 
> > > On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked.  Then there is 
> > > another "tab"
> > > called "Advanced Settings".  There is a drop down box for "Accept 
> > > Automatically" and I
> > > have "Trusted Devices" selected.
> > > 
> > > When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
> > 
> > Interesting. A recent thread (around July 8) concerned similar problems
> > with BT mice. I wonder if this is the solution. I confess I'd never
> > looked at the Advanced Settings when trying to solve this.
> > 
> I was the OP on that thread.  I saw the trusted setting and am fairly
> sure I tried it with no improvement.
> 
> I stopped using the bt mouse.  Even turned off bt in the bios.
> Will revisit the issue with the trusted setting and report back

See my posting today "RE bluetooth mouse   [SOLVED]" for a fuller
description.  In short, I had tried to set the mouse to a trusted
device using blueman commands such as blueman-manager.  I tried
again but it did not allow automatic connection of the mouse.

Now I tried the "trust" sub-command of bluetoothctl.  It did
succeed in setting the mouse as a trusted device.  And the
mouse automatically connects after boot.

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Re: fedora 23 bluetooth connection

2016-07-28 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 01:33:00AM -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:57:24PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 05:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Something changed (although not fatally):
> > > > I use Bluetooth speakers quite often.
> > > > Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused
> > > > Fedora to connect to it.
> > > > Several months ago, now on F23,  (not sure when this problem appeared)
> > > > that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into
> > > > Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it
> > > > and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will
> > > > eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound
> > > > Settings" after which it works fine.
> > > > Is there a path back? 
> > > > 
> > > > The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64
> > > > TIA,
> > > 
> > > I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE.  The GUI may be different but I 
> > > think gnome
> > > should have similar settings.
> > > 
> > > On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked.  Then there is 
> > > another "tab"
> > > called "Advanced Settings".  There is a drop down box for "Accept 
> > > Automatically" and I
> > > have "Trusted Devices" selected.
> > > 
> > > When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
> > 
> > Interesting. A recent thread (around July 8) concerned similar problems
> > with BT mice. I wonder if this is the solution. I confess I'd never
> > looked at the Advanced Settings when trying to solve this.
> > 
> I was the OP on that thread.  I saw the trusted setting and am fairly
> sure I tried it with no improvement.
> 
> I stopped using the bt mouse.  Even turned off bt in the bios.
> Will revisit the issue with the trusted setting and report back
> 

It seems "trust" is the key.  I had difficulty turning it on for
my mouse device.  In blueman-manager, there are menu items and
a separate icon button to turn on trust.  These did not complain
but didn't set the mouse as a trusted device either.

I went into bluetoothctl, found the device id, and used the
trust  command.  It reported setting "trust succeeded".
Sure enough, when I went back into the gui blueman-manager,
it was showing the trust icon for my mouse.

Now rebooting with the mouse on, or starting the mouse after
booting, it comes right up.

Seems like blueman-manager needs a fix to get trust working.

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Re: fedora 23 bluetooth connection

2016-07-28 Thread Roger Wells
On 07/27/2016 11:14 AM, Roger Wells wrote:
> On 07/27/2016 08:16 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 07/26/16 23:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 09:35 -0400, Roger Wells wrote:
 On 07/25/2016 05:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>
> On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
>> Something changed (although not fatally):
>> I use Bluetooth speakers quite often.
>> Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused
>> Fedora to connect to it.
>> Several months ago, now on F23,  (not sure when this problem appeared)
>> that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into
>> Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it
>> and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will
>> eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound
>> Settings" after which it works fine.
>> Is there a path back? 
>>
>> The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64
>> TIA,
> I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE.  The GUI may be different but I 
> think gnome
> should have similar settings.
>
> On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked.  Then there is 
> another "tab"
> called "Advanced Settings".  There is a drop down box for "Accept 
> Automatically" and I
> have "Trusted Devices" selected.
>
> When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
>
 Thanks for responding.

 I don't see any Advanced Settings offer via the Gnome desktop and no
 mention of BT in the tweak tool.  I'll hunt around.
>>> To be clear: this was in KDE. I don't know what the equivalent Gnome
>>> control is.
>>>
>>
>> One thing that "confuses" me is that within the KDE settings there is, as I 
>> said, an
>> "Accept Automatically" choice.  But if you use bluetoothctl there doesn't 
>> appear to be an
>> equivalent setting in the command line interface. 
>>
>> I don't currently have GNOME installed on my system in order to check if my 
>> headset would
>> connect automatically in that environment.
>>
> Here's progress:
> Use bluetoothctl and set "trust" on for the speaker device.
> After the next re-boot the device connected when powered on just like
> before.  (I just didn't know about the existence of bluetoothctl)
> 
> Thanks, all
> 
Well, not so good.  It only did it once even though bluetoothctl still
reports it as trusted.


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Re: fedora 23 bluetooth connection

2016-07-27 Thread Roger Wells
On 07/27/2016 08:16 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> 
> 
> On 07/26/16 23:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 09:35 -0400, Roger Wells wrote:
>>> On 07/25/2016 05:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:


 On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
> Something changed (although not fatally):
> I use Bluetooth speakers quite often.
> Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused
> Fedora to connect to it.
> Several months ago, now on F23,  (not sure when this problem appeared)
> that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into
> Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it
> and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will
> eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound
> Settings" after which it works fine.
> Is there a path back? 
>
> The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64
> TIA,
 I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE.  The GUI may be different but I 
 think gnome
 should have similar settings.

 On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked.  Then there is 
 another "tab"
 called "Advanced Settings".  There is a drop down box for "Accept 
 Automatically" and I
 have "Trusted Devices" selected.

 When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.

>>> Thanks for responding.
>>>
>>> I don't see any Advanced Settings offer via the Gnome desktop and no
>>> mention of BT in the tweak tool.  I'll hunt around.
>> To be clear: this was in KDE. I don't know what the equivalent Gnome
>> control is.
>>
> 
> One thing that "confuses" me is that within the KDE settings there is, as I 
> said, an
> "Accept Automatically" choice.  But if you use bluetoothctl there doesn't 
> appear to be an
> equivalent setting in the command line interface. 
> 
> I don't currently have GNOME installed on my system in order to check if my 
> headset would
> connect automatically in that environment.
> 
Here's progress:
Use bluetoothctl and set "trust" on for the speaker device.
After the next re-boot the device connected when powered on just like
before.  (I just didn't know about the existence of bluetoothctl)

Thanks, all
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Re: fedora 23 bluetooth connection

2016-07-27 Thread Ed Greshko


On 07/26/16 23:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 09:35 -0400, Roger Wells wrote:
>> On 07/25/2016 05:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
 Something changed (although not fatally):
 I use Bluetooth speakers quite often.
 Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused
 Fedora to connect to it.
 Several months ago, now on F23,  (not sure when this problem appeared)
 that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into
 Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it
 and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will
 eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound
 Settings" after which it works fine.
 Is there a path back? 

 The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64
 TIA,
>>> I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE.  The GUI may be different but I 
>>> think gnome
>>> should have similar settings.
>>>
>>> On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked.  Then there is 
>>> another "tab"
>>> called "Advanced Settings".  There is a drop down box for "Accept 
>>> Automatically" and I
>>> have "Trusted Devices" selected.
>>>
>>> When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
>>>
>> Thanks for responding.
>>
>> I don't see any Advanced Settings offer via the Gnome desktop and no
>> mention of BT in the tweak tool.  I'll hunt around.
> To be clear: this was in KDE. I don't know what the equivalent Gnome
> control is.
>

One thing that "confuses" me is that within the KDE settings there is, as I 
said, an
"Accept Automatically" choice.  But if you use bluetoothctl there doesn't 
appear to be an
equivalent setting in the command line interface. 

I don't currently have GNOME installed on my system in order to check if my 
headset would
connect automatically in that environment.

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Re: fedora 23 bluetooth connection

2016-07-26 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 07/26/2016 10:15 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:

If you do a "dnf search bluetooth" you'll find what appear
to be several different bluetooth utilities. Some may be
dumber than others (certainly the new and improved gnome
control center printer tool has forced me to use the cups
web interface to get any actual printer tasks done, bluetooth
may be just as dumbed down for gnome).


I use system-config-printer.
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Re: fedora 23 bluetooth connection

2016-07-26 Thread Roger Wells
On 07/26/2016 01:15 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:56:40 +0100
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
>> To be clear: this was in KDE. I don't know what the equivalent Gnome
>> control is.
> 
> If you do a "dnf search bluetooth" you'll find what appear
> to be several different bluetooth utilities. Some may be
> dumber than others (certainly the new and improved gnome
> control center printer tool has forced me to use the cups
> web interface to get any actual printer tasks done, bluetooth
> may be just as dumbed down for gnome).
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Thanks, I'll have a look and report back if anything good happens

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Re: fedora 23 bluetooth connection

2016-07-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:56:40 +0100
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> To be clear: this was in KDE. I don't know what the equivalent Gnome
> control is.

If you do a "dnf search bluetooth" you'll find what appear
to be several different bluetooth utilities. Some may be
dumber than others (certainly the new and improved gnome
control center printer tool has forced me to use the cups
web interface to get any actual printer tasks done, bluetooth
may be just as dumbed down for gnome).
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Re: fedora 23 bluetooth connection

2016-07-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 09:35 -0400, Roger Wells wrote:
> On 07/25/2016 05:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
> > > 
> > > Something changed (although not fatally):
> > > I use Bluetooth speakers quite often.
> > > Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused
> > > Fedora to connect to it.
> > > Several months ago, now on F23,  (not sure when this problem appeared)
> > > that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into
> > > Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it
> > > and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will
> > > eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound
> > > Settings" after which it works fine.
> > > Is there a path back? 
> > > 
> > > The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64
> > > TIA,
> > 
> > I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE.  The GUI may be different but I 
> > think gnome
> > should have similar settings.
> > 
> > On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked.  Then there is 
> > another "tab"
> > called "Advanced Settings".  There is a drop down box for "Accept 
> > Automatically" and I
> > have "Trusted Devices" selected.
> > 
> > When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
> > 
> Thanks for responding.
> 
> I don't see any Advanced Settings offer via the Gnome desktop and no
> mention of BT in the tweak tool.  I'll hunt around.

To be clear: this was in KDE. I don't know what the equivalent Gnome
control is.

poc
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Re: fedora 23 bluetooth connection

2016-07-26 Thread Roger Wells
On 07/25/2016 05:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> 
> 
> On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
>> Something changed (although not fatally):
>> I use Bluetooth speakers quite often.
>> Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused
>> Fedora to connect to it.
>> Several months ago, now on F23,  (not sure when this problem appeared)
>> that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into
>> Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it
>> and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will
>> eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound
>> Settings" after which it works fine.
>> Is there a path back? 
>>
>> The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64
>> TIA,
> 
> I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE.  The GUI may be different but I 
> think gnome
> should have similar settings.
> 
> On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked.  Then there is 
> another "tab"
> called "Advanced Settings".  There is a drop down box for "Accept 
> Automatically" and I
> have "Trusted Devices" selected.
> 
> When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
> 
Thanks for responding.

I don't see any Advanced Settings offer via the Gnome desktop and no
mention of BT in the tweak tool.  I'll hunt around.

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Re: fedora 23 bluetooth connection

2016-07-25 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:57:24PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 05:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > 
> > On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
> > > 
> > > Something changed (although not fatally):
> > > I use Bluetooth speakers quite often.
> > > Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused
> > > Fedora to connect to it.
> > > Several months ago, now on F23,  (not sure when this problem appeared)
> > > that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into
> > > Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it
> > > and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will
> > > eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound
> > > Settings" after which it works fine.
> > > Is there a path back? 
> > > 
> > > The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64
> > > TIA,
> > 
> > I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE.  The GUI may be different but I 
> > think gnome
> > should have similar settings.
> > 
> > On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked.  Then there is 
> > another "tab"
> > called "Advanced Settings".  There is a drop down box for "Accept 
> > Automatically" and I
> > have "Trusted Devices" selected.
> > 
> > When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
> 
> Interesting. A recent thread (around July 8) concerned similar problems
> with BT mice. I wonder if this is the solution. I confess I'd never
> looked at the Advanced Settings when trying to solve this.
> 
I was the OP on that thread.  I saw the trusted setting and am fairly
sure I tried it with no improvement.

I stopped using the bt mouse.  Even turned off bt in the bios.
Will revisit the issue with the trusted setting and report back

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Re: fedora 23 bluetooth connection

2016-07-25 Thread Ed Greshko


On 07/26/16 06:57, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 05:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
>>> Something changed (although not fatally):
>>> I use Bluetooth speakers quite often.
>>> Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused
>>> Fedora to connect to it.
>>> Several months ago, now on F23,  (not sure when this problem appeared)
>>> that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into
>>> Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it
>>> and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will
>>> eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound
>>> Settings" after which it works fine.
>>> Is there a path back? 
>>>
>>> The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64
>>> TIA,
>> I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE.  The GUI may be different but I 
>> think gnome
>> should have similar settings.
>>
>> On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked.  Then there is 
>> another "tab"
>> called "Advanced Settings".  There is a drop down box for "Accept 
>> Automatically" and I
>> have "Trusted Devices" selected.
>>
>> When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
> Interesting. A recent thread (around July 8) concerned similar problems
> with BT mice. I wonder if this is the solution. I confess I'd never
> looked at the Advanced Settings when trying to solve this.

Could very well be.  I ignored the BT mice thread since I don't have one.

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Re: fedora 23 bluetooth connection

2016-07-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 05:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> 
> On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
> > 
> > Something changed (although not fatally):
> > I use Bluetooth speakers quite often.
> > Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused
> > Fedora to connect to it.
> > Several months ago, now on F23,  (not sure when this problem appeared)
> > that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into
> > Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it
> > and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will
> > eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound
> > Settings" after which it works fine.
> > Is there a path back? 
> > 
> > The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64
> > TIA,
> 
> I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE.  The GUI may be different but I 
> think gnome
> should have similar settings.
> 
> On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked.  Then there is 
> another "tab"
> called "Advanced Settings".  There is a drop down box for "Accept 
> Automatically" and I
> have "Trusted Devices" selected.
> 
> When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.

Interesting. A recent thread (around July 8) concerned similar problems
with BT mice. I wonder if this is the solution. I confess I'd never
looked at the Advanced Settings when trying to solve this.

poc
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Re: fedora 23 bluetooth connection

2016-07-25 Thread Ed Greshko


On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
> Something changed (although not fatally):
> I use Bluetooth speakers quite often.
> Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused
> Fedora to connect to it.
> Several months ago, now on F23,  (not sure when this problem appeared)
> that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into
> Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it
> and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will
> eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound
> Settings" after which it works fine.
> Is there a path back? 
>
> The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64
> TIA,

I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE.  The GUI may be different but I think 
gnome
should have similar settings.

On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked.  Then there is another 
"tab"
called "Advanced Settings".  There is a drop down box for "Accept 
Automatically" and I
have "Trusted Devices" selected.

When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.

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