Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-10 Thread dexter
On 8 November 2012 13:04, Carroll Grigsby  wrote:

>
> Yeah, it is. Sorry about that. Looks like you'll have to learn how to
> play the harmonica.
>
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Classic ...

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Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-08 Thread Rick Stevens

On 11/07/2012 01:20 PM, lee issued this missive:

Carroll Grigsby  writes:


On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:11:06 +0100
lee  wrote:


Hiisi  writes:


On 7 November 2012 16:41, Michael Hiller  wrote:

I was assuming that.



Nobody should be advised to install third party software without
warnings that it can be harmful and leads to dreadful things.


"yum install vlc" fixed it, thank you!  I thought I had already done
that ...

What's the alternative to installing 3rd party software?  Get its
sources and compile and install it ourselves?  I wouldn't mind doing
that if I knew how to make packages so that it's easier to keep track
of it ...



Take a look here:
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f17.html

As the old saying goes, it works for me. Quite well.


That involves installing gstreamer-plugins-bad-nonfree:  Isn't that 3rd
party software?


In a strict sense, ALL of Fedora (indeed any Linux distribution) is 3rd
party software. They are collections of programs and libraries from all
over the place (the kernel started out from Linus, most of the utilities
and such are from the Gnu people, etc., etc.).

What you should be saying is that it's from a non-Fedora repository (or
rather a non-Redhat controlled repository). Rpmfusion is a reliable
repository and many of the contributors to Fedora also have packages
there. While Redhat doesn't control it, it is still a good source, as
was livna (before there were too many incompatible forks of packages
between it and the "official" Fedora repos).
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Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-08 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:20:22 +0100
lee  wrote:

> Carroll Grigsby  writes:
> 
> > On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:11:06 +0100
> > lee  wrote:
> >
> >> Hiisi  writes:
> >> 
> >> > On 7 November 2012 16:41, Michael Hiller 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> I was assuming that.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Nobody should be advised to install third party software without
> >> > warnings that it can be harmful and leads to dreadful things.
> >> 
> >> "yum install vlc" fixed it, thank you!  I thought I had already
> >> done that ...
> >> 
> >> What's the alternative to installing 3rd party software?  Get its
> >> sources and compile and install it ourselves?  I wouldn't mind
> >> doing that if I knew how to make packages so that it's easier to
> >> keep track of it ...
> >> 
> >> 
> > Take a look here:
> > http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f17.html
> >
> > As the old saying goes, it works for me. Quite well.
> 
> That involves installing gstreamer-plugins-bad-nonfree:  Isn't that
> 3rd party software?
> 
> 

Yeah, it is. Sorry about that. Looks like you'll have to learn how to
play the harmonica.

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Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-08 Thread lee
Carroll Grigsby  writes:

> On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:11:06 +0100
> lee  wrote:
>
>> Hiisi  writes:
>> 
>> > On 7 November 2012 16:41, Michael Hiller  wrote:
>> >> I was assuming that.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Nobody should be advised to install third party software without
>> > warnings that it can be harmful and leads to dreadful things.
>> 
>> "yum install vlc" fixed it, thank you!  I thought I had already done
>> that ...
>> 
>> What's the alternative to installing 3rd party software?  Get its
>> sources and compile and install it ourselves?  I wouldn't mind doing
>> that if I knew how to make packages so that it's easier to keep track
>> of it ...
>> 
>> 
> Take a look here:
> http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f17.html
>
> As the old saying goes, it works for me. Quite well.

That involves installing gstreamer-plugins-bad-nonfree:  Isn't that 3rd
party software?


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Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-08 Thread Tim

lee:
>>> What's the alternative to installing 3rd party software?  Get its
>>> sources and compile and install it ourselves?  I wouldn't mind doing
>>> that if I knew how to make packages so that it's easier to keep
>>> track of it ...

Carroll Grigsby:
>> Take a look here:
>> http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f17.html


Michael Hiller:
> Setting up sudo? Why?


Sudo was one thing on that page, but I took it as an answer about
getting a prebuilt version of VLC that wasn't available in the official
Fedora repo, rather than having to compile it from source.


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Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-07 Thread David
On 11/7/2012 12:41 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 7 November 2012 15:04, Hiisi  wrote:
>> On 7 November 2012 18:11, lee  wrote:
>>> Hiisi  writes:
>>>
 On 7 November 2012 16:41, Michael Hiller  wrote:
> I was assuming that.
>

 Nobody should be advised to install third party software without
 warnings that it can be harmful and leads to dreadful things.
>>>
>>> "yum install vlc" fixed it, thank you!  I thought I had already done that
>>> ...
>>>
>>> What's the alternative to installing 3rd party software?  Get its
>>> sources and compile and install it ourselves?  I wouldn't mind doing
>>> that if I knew how to make packages so that it's easier to keep track of
>>> it ...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Personally I don't use third party software at all. I.e. no flash and
>> other media on my system. Such ascetic life is hard for untrained
>> persone.
> 
> 
> Personally I only use software I wrote myself. I'm writing this email
> on a computer built around a home-made CPU programmed by hand in
> binary.
> 
> No not really. RPMFusion isn't some random collection of binaries
> pulled of the net. You may chose to avoid it for idealistic or legal
> reasons, but FUD isn't a particularly good one. Not entirely sure what
> an untrained person is in this context either. You want to do without
> flash, that's fine, it doesn't take any training, except possibly in
> putting up with not having flash.
> 
> 


Somewhat like owning an automobile or a bicycle. Sine neither the auto
ot the bike make tires you can have tires?  :-)

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Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 7 November 2012 15:04, Hiisi  wrote:
> On 7 November 2012 18:11, lee  wrote:
>> Hiisi  writes:
>>
>>> On 7 November 2012 16:41, Michael Hiller  wrote:
 I was assuming that.

>>>
>>> Nobody should be advised to install third party software without
>>> warnings that it can be harmful and leads to dreadful things.
>>
>> "yum install vlc" fixed it, thank you!  I thought I had already done that
>> ...
>>
>> What's the alternative to installing 3rd party software?  Get its
>> sources and compile and install it ourselves?  I wouldn't mind doing
>> that if I knew how to make packages so that it's easier to keep track of
>> it ...
>>
>>
>
> Personally I don't use third party software at all. I.e. no flash and
> other media on my system. Such ascetic life is hard for untrained
> persone.


Personally I only use software I wrote myself. I'm writing this email
on a computer built around a home-made CPU programmed by hand in
binary.

No not really. RPMFusion isn't some random collection of binaries
pulled of the net. You may chose to avoid it for idealistic or legal
reasons, but FUD isn't a particularly good one. Not entirely sure what
an untrained person is in this context either. You want to do without
flash, that's fine, it doesn't take any training, except possibly in
putting up with not having flash.


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Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-07 Thread Carroll Grigsby

[Reordered to remove top-posting]

On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:53:40 +0100
Michael Hiller  wrote:

> 2012/11/7 Carroll Grigsby 
> 
> > On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:11:06 +0100
> > lee  wrote:
> >
> > > Hiisi  writes:
> > >
> > > > On 7 November 2012 16:41, Michael Hiller 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> I was assuming that.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Nobody should be advised to install third party software without
> > > > warnings that it can be harmful and leads to dreadful things.
> > >
> > > "yum install vlc" fixed it, thank you!  I thought I had already
> > > done that ...
> > >
> > > What's the alternative to installing 3rd party software?  Get its
> > > sources and compile and install it ourselves?  I wouldn't mind
> > > doing that if I knew how to make packages so that it's easier to
> > > keep track of it ...
> > >
> > >
> > Take a look here:
> > http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f17.html
> >
> > As the old saying goes, it works for me. Quite well.
> >
> > -- cmg

> Setting up sudo? Why?

It's optional -- possibly for refugees from various *buntu
derivatives.

By the way, you might want to read the list guidelines as referenced
below. Neither html coding nor top-posting are considered suitable here
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Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-07 Thread Hiisi
On 7 November 2012 18:11, lee  wrote:
> Hiisi  writes:
>
>> On 7 November 2012 16:41, Michael Hiller  wrote:
>>> I was assuming that.
>>>
>>
>> Nobody should be advised to install third party software without
>> warnings that it can be harmful and leads to dreadful things.
>
> "yum install vlc" fixed it, thank you!  I thought I had already done that
> ...
>
> What's the alternative to installing 3rd party software?  Get its
> sources and compile and install it ourselves?  I wouldn't mind doing
> that if I knew how to make packages so that it's easier to keep track of
> it ...
>
>

Personally I don't use third party software at all. I.e. no flash and
other media on my system. Such ascetic life is hard for untrained
persone.
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Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-07 Thread Michael Hiller
Setting up sudo? Why?


2012/11/7 Carroll Grigsby 

> On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:11:06 +0100
> lee  wrote:
>
> > Hiisi  writes:
> >
> > > On 7 November 2012 16:41, Michael Hiller  wrote:
> > >> I was assuming that.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Nobody should be advised to install third party software without
> > > warnings that it can be harmful and leads to dreadful things.
> >
> > "yum install vlc" fixed it, thank you!  I thought I had already done
> > that ...
> >
> > What's the alternative to installing 3rd party software?  Get its
> > sources and compile and install it ourselves?  I wouldn't mind doing
> > that if I knew how to make packages so that it's easier to keep track
> > of it ...
> >
> >
> Take a look here:
> http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f17.html
>
> As the old saying goes, it works for me. Quite well.
>
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Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-07 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:11:06 +0100
lee  wrote:

> Hiisi  writes:
> 
> > On 7 November 2012 16:41, Michael Hiller  wrote:
> >> I was assuming that.
> >>
> >
> > Nobody should be advised to install third party software without
> > warnings that it can be harmful and leads to dreadful things.
> 
> "yum install vlc" fixed it, thank you!  I thought I had already done
> that ...
> 
> What's the alternative to installing 3rd party software?  Get its
> sources and compile and install it ourselves?  I wouldn't mind doing
> that if I knew how to make packages so that it's easier to keep track
> of it ...
> 
> 
Take a look here:
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f17.html

As the old saying goes, it works for me. Quite well.

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Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-07 Thread lee
Hiisi  writes:

> On 7 November 2012 16:41, Michael Hiller  wrote:
>> I was assuming that.
>>
>
> Nobody should be advised to install third party software without
> warnings that it can be harmful and leads to dreadful things.

"yum install vlc" fixed it, thank you!  I thought I had already done that
...

What's the alternative to installing 3rd party software?  Get its
sources and compile and install it ourselves?  I wouldn't mind doing
that if I knew how to make packages so that it's easier to keep track of
it ...


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Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-07 Thread Hiisi
On 7 November 2012 16:41, Michael Hiller  wrote:
> I was assuming that.
>

Nobody should be advised to install third party software without
warnings that it can be harmful and leads to dreadful things.
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Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-07 Thread Michael Hiller
I was assuming that.


2012/11/7 Hiisi 

> On 7 November 2012 16:08, Michael Hiller  wrote:
> > Have you tried yum install vlc ?
> >
>
> It won't work unless the op has rmpfusion enabled.
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Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-07 Thread Hiisi
On 7 November 2012 16:08, Michael Hiller  wrote:
> Have you tried yum install vlc ?
>

It won't work unless the op has rmpfusion enabled.
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Re: vlc has no GUI

2012-11-07 Thread Michael Hiller
Have you tried yum install vlc ?


2012/11/7 lee 

> Hi,
>
> what do I need to install to have a GUI for vlc?  Do I need to compile
> it myself for this?
>
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