Re: Serious F29 Problem - For me!
> > Thanks Ian & Suse > Working on it! > John > I now know how to get to XFCE working again on F28 following attempts to test F29. cp -au .../dot_config_2018_11_02_ja_backup_GTX2/dconf /home/ja/.config cp -au .../dot_config_2018_11_02_ja_backup_GTX2/autostart/ /home/ja/.config sometimes a reboot is required (still using very old syntax!) shutdown -r now diff -qr did the trick when finding these files/directories However I have still not been able to use my account on F29 without freezing and core dumps. I think it is to do with "autostart" but I have no idea what. After 15 to 20 years of using XFCE my current solution is dnf groupinstall LXDE which has caused no problems with my account - yet. Aside/In addition I have been getting core dumps associated with xfce on F28 for several weeks but they have never made the machine unusable. This was definitely not a hardware problem as they occurred on at least two machines. dnf downgrade to xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.19.5-1.fc28.x86_64 did not appear to solve this problem. It was not possible to downgrade on F29 because of dependency problems. I'm pretty convinced xfce has some significant bugs. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Serious F29 Problem - For me!
On Wed, 2018-11-07 at 18:15 +0800, Ian Chapman wrote: > On 06/11/2018 23:34, ja wrote: > > > I conclude that there is something in my ~/.config or ~/.cache > > that F29 cannot handle during the login phase or shortly after. > > There are 11323 files in ~/.config > > and 5431 in ~/.cache > > > > Worse still when I return to my F28 machine as ja then > > problems are now present on that machine as well. > > Presumably ~/.config (maybe ~/.cache) has been corrupted by F29. > > > > I have to restore ~/.config (394MB) and once ~/.cache(532MB) > > from a backup before I have a usable F28 machine again. > > (and hence can send this email) > > You could probably identify what files have changed using diff, by > comparing the changed directory tree with the original one. For example > > diff -q ~/.config ~/.config.original > > It'll output which files are missing (from src and rest) and which files > are different. It could still be a lot, but it might narrow things down. > Afterwards you can remove the -q and see what those differences are. > > -- > Regards, > Ian Chapman > Thanks Ian & Suse Working on it! John ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Serious F29 Problem - For me!
On 06/11/2018 23:34, ja wrote: I conclude that there is something in my ~/.config or ~/.cache that F29 cannot handle during the login phase or shortly after. There are 11323 files in ~/.config and 5431 in ~/.cache Worse still when I return to my F28 machine as ja then problems are now present on that machine as well. Presumably ~/.config (maybe ~/.cache) has been corrupted by F29. I have to restore ~/.config (394MB) and once ~/.cache(532MB) from a backup before I have a usable F28 machine again. (and hence can send this email) You could probably identify what files have changed using diff, by comparing the changed directory tree with the original one. For example diff -q ~/.config ~/.config.original It'll output which files are missing (from src and rest) and which files are different. It could still be a lot, but it might narrow things down. Afterwards you can remove the -q and see what those differences are. -- Regards, Ian Chapman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Serious F29 Problem - For me!
Hi John, try if the similar issue as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1536237 w/r is to downgrade version to: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.19.5-1. ja 于2018年11月7日周三 上午2:30写道： > On Tue, 2018-11-06 at 12:19 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 15:34:09 + > > ja wrote: > > > > > Has anyone else seen this problem or has some suggestion for > > > better ways of trouble shooting? > > > > I've been having serious issues debugging programs built > > on NFS filesystems. I can't point to a specific thing yet, but > > I'm really suspicious of NFS at this point. (Same sort of debugging > > same sort of programs, no problems under fedora 28). > > ___ > Hmmm - Interesting > > I have spent the whole day on this - being very concerned that > my F28 machine and/or Centos server account may become corrupt. > > Tomorrow is another day! > Thanks > John > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > -- Regards, -suse ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Serious F29 Problem - For me!
On Tue, 2018-11-06 at 12:19 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 15:34:09 + > ja wrote: > > > Has anyone else seen this problem or has some suggestion for > > better ways of trouble shooting? > > I've been having serious issues debugging programs built > on NFS filesystems. I can't point to a specific thing yet, but > I'm really suspicious of NFS at this point. (Same sort of debugging > same sort of programs, no problems under fedora 28). > ___ Hmmm - Interesting I have spent the whole day on this - being very concerned that my F28 machine and/or Centos server account may become corrupt. Tomorrow is another day! Thanks John ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Serious F29 Problem - For me!
On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 15:34:09 + ja wrote: > Has anyone else seen this problem or has some suggestion for > better ways of trouble shooting? I've been having serious issues debugging programs built on NFS filesystems. I can't point to a specific thing yet, but I'm really suspicious of NFS at this point. (Same sort of debugging same sort of programs, no problems under fedora 28). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Serious F29 Problem - For me!
I have a fully working (Clean Installed) F29 test machine which seems OK for some users (fred) who has a very small home directory. User home directories are NFS mounted from a Centos 7.5.1804 server I am using lightdm & XFCE on both F28 & F29 I login to F29 as me (ja) and the display locks up continually, the display can become smeared, applications freeze, ..., it is totally unusable - core dumping maybe. I login to XFCE as another user (fred) and su - ja and run applications with no problems - evolution, google-chrome, pcmanfm, ... I conclude that there is something in my ~/.config or ~/.cache that F29 cannot handle during the login phase or shortly after. There are 11323 files in ~/.config and 5431 in ~/.cache Worse still when I return to my F28 machine as ja then problems are now present on that machine as well. Presumably ~/.config (maybe ~/.cache) has been corrupted by F29. I have to restore ~/.config (394MB) and once ~/.cache(532MB) from a backup before I have a usable F28 machine again. (and hence can send this email) I have tried things such as "find ~/.config -amin -3" to find changed files but nothing I have deleted/moved has helped. I have used journalctl -f and top I have seen xfce4-panel, xfsettingsd, xfdesktop seg fault (libgdk-3) At one stage I thought "setenforce 0" helped but now not convinced. Has anyone else seen this problem or has some suggestion for better ways of trouble shooting? I am loathe to have to re-create all those settings in ~/.config Struggling! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
