Re: Thunderbird freezes machine [SOLVED]
On Wed, 2018-01-17 at 11:52 -0500, Tim Evans wrote: > On 01/17/2018 11:08 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > > On 01/15/18 17:02, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On 01/16/18 05:04, David A. De Graaf wrote: > > > > > > If only there were a way to make thunderbird use the native email > > > files, as mutt > > > does, this problem wouldn't occur. > > > > > > For your IMAP accounts, explore the "Storage and Synchronization" > > > settings > > > > > > > Thank you Ed Greshko for that insight. I have reduced the storage and > > synchonization to almost nothing. I'll see how that works out. Seems OK > > so far. > > That's pretty much the whole point of IMAP, at least as far as an > improvement over POP, the latter of which doesn't give you any choice on > this matter. In fact, properly set up IMAP allows you to access your > mailbox(es) from multiple computers/tablets/smartphones and always see > the same thing. +1 poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird freezes machine [SOLVED]
On 01/17/2018 11:08 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: On 01/15/18 17:02, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/16/18 05:04, David A. De Graaf wrote: If only there were a way to make thunderbird use the native email files, as mutt does, this problem wouldn't occur. For your IMAP accounts, explore the "Storage and Synchronization" settings Thank you Ed Greshko for that insight. I have reduced the storage and synchonization to almost nothing. I'll see how that works out. Seems OK so far. That's pretty much the whole point of IMAP, at least as far as an improvement over POP, the latter of which doesn't give you any choice on this matter. In fact, properly set up IMAP allows you to access your mailbox(es) from multiple computers/tablets/smartphones and always see the same thing. -- Tim Evans |5 Chestnut Court 443-394-3864|Owings Mills, MD 21117 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird freezes machine [SOLVED]
On 01/15/18 17:02, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/16/18 05:04, David A. De Graaf wrote: If only there were a way to make thunderbird use the native email files, as mutt does, this problem wouldn't occur. For your IMAP accounts, explore the "Storage and Synchronization" settings Thank you Ed Greshko for that insight. I have reduced the storage and synchonization to almost nothing. I'll see how that works out. Seems OK so far. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird freezes machine [SOLVED]
On 01/16/18 05:34, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 16:04 -0500, David A. De Graaf wrote: >> But WHY this happened - I suppose is unknowable. I discovered that >> thunderbird, because it is using IMAP, creates and maintains copies of >> all the mail that exists in the primary files on the server: >> /var/mail/dad, plus the archives in ~/Mail/*. That seems like a REALLY >> NUTTY design. > I haven't used TBird in years but it does seem nutty. Are you sure it > isn't a config option? Evolution doesn't do this by default (though you > can configure it that way if you want), and I suspect Claws and other > IMAP clients don't either. > Indeed there are configuration options. Under the Accounts--->Account Name--->Synchronization&Storage. Lots of options there. From not storing any messages locally to choosing what folder to keep locally. Also many choices for how many messages and/or age of messages to keep. -- Fedora Users List - The place to go to speculate endlessly signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird freezes machine [SOLVED]
On 01/16/18 05:04, David A. De Graaf wrote: > But WHY this happened - I suppose is unknowable. I discovered that > thunderbird, > because it is using IMAP, creates and maintains copies of all the mail that > exists > in the primary files on the server: /var/mail/dad, plus the archives in > ~/Mail/*. > That seems like a REALLY NUTTY design. If TB were running on a remote > machine, > yes, it would make sense to reduce communication bandwidth. But in this > case, TB > is running on the same machine that contains the primary email files. > > With all the attendant copying of files it is unsurprising that the duplicate > IMAP > files got screwed up. > > If only there were a way to make thunderbird use the native email files, as > mutt > does, this problem wouldn't occur. For your IMAP accounts, explore the "Storage and Synchronization" settings -- Fedora Users List - The place to go to speculate endlessly signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird freezes machine [SOLVED]
On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 16:04 -0500, David A. De Graaf wrote: > But WHY this happened - I suppose is unknowable. I discovered that > thunderbird, because it is using IMAP, creates and maintains copies of > all the mail that exists in the primary files on the server: > /var/mail/dad, plus the archives in ~/Mail/*. That seems like a REALLY > NUTTY design. I haven't used TBird in years but it does seem nutty. Are you sure it isn't a config option? Evolution doesn't do this by default (though you can configure it that way if you want), and I suspect Claws and other IMAP clients don't either. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird freezes machine [SOLVED]
On 01/15/2018 01:04 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: If only there were a way to make thunderbird use the native email files, as mutt does, this problem wouldn't occur. Have it use POP3 instead, deleting the messages from the "server" when you download them. Yes, that takes up a little bit more disk space, but with today's disk sizes, that shouldn't be an issue. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird freezes machine [SOLVED]
On 01/14/18 17:57, David A. De Graaf wrote: I have a weird and puzzling problem with thunderbird on my main computer, running Fedora 26 (waiting for resolution before updating). If I so much as touch an attachment to a received email, the machine freezes. My problem is solved, sort-of. With the aid of strace I saw that the stoppage seems to occur when trying to access a file in my ~/.thunderbird directory structure. So, in true bull in the china shop fashion, I deleted that entire directory (set it aside), and restarted thunderbird. I had to recreate all my email accounts from scratch, but it ran and I was able to correctly access the attachments that previously caused machine freezeup. But WHY this happened - I suppose is unknowable. I discovered that thunderbird, because it is using IMAP, creates and maintains copies of all the mail that exists in the primary files on the server: /var/mail/dad, plus the archives in ~/Mail/*. That seems like a REALLY NUTTY design. If TB were running on a remote machine, yes, it would make sense to reduce communication bandwidth. But in this case, TB is running on the same machine that contains the primary email files. With all the attendant copying of files it is unsurprising that the duplicate IMAP files got screwed up. If only there were a way to make thunderbird use the native email files, as mutt does, this problem wouldn't occur. -- David A. De GraafDATIX, Inc.Hendersonville, NC d...@datix.us www.datix.us ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
