Re: Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-28 Thread Tim
Tim:
 If you really do want slow media, such as you're burning discs for a
 mastering plant to replicate, then buy media that's made for it.

JD:
 Right. Easier said than found in neighbourhood stores :) :)

Depends on the store.  Some do sell those more costly made for audio
blank CDs.  They're usually sold in small amounts, rather than in bulk,
too.

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Re: Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-27 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
JD wrote:
 
 On 08/26/2012 11:35 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote
 DVD burn speed is not the same as CD burn speed. This is why you
 have both CD and DVD speed specs on drives. When it comes to CDs,
 there are two different blank formats. You have the 1x to 4x and the
 4x to ?x. You can not burn the 1-4x at faster then 4x. You can not
 burn the 4x-4x+ CDs at slower the 4x. This has NOTHING to do with
 DVD burning speeds.

 Check your drive CD burning speeds and CD blank speeds. See if they
 are rated to burn at slower then 4x. If not, then regardless of the
 software, you are NOT doing to be able to burn CDs slower then 4x.
 Again, this is different then DVD burn speeds.

 You may want to do some research on burning CDs and DVDs so that you
 understand the difference. You will probably discover that your
 hardware will not burn CDs at slower then 4x.

 Mikkel

 Thanx for the explanation.
 So, I tried
 $ wodim -v dev=/dev/sr0 speed=4 image6.iso
 . . . .
 Speed set to 1764 KB/s
 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed  10.0 in real force TAO mode for single 
 session.
 
 I interrupted the burn, as it did not obey 4x speed.
 
 So, I tried 6X.
 
 Script started on Sun 26 Aug 2012 12:53:20 PM MDT
 $ wodim -v dev=/dev/sr0 speed=6 image3.iso
 . . . .
 Speed set to 1764 KB/s
 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed  10.0 in real TAO mode for single session.
 
 When I add driveropts=forcespeed, it still says:
 .
 .
 .
 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed  10.0 in real TAO mode for single session.
 
 I believe that wodim may be the source of the problem.

I have cdrecord Fedora i686 RPM packages for F15/F16/F17 at:
http://www.hanzlici.cz//fedoralinux/ALL/cdrecord/

or their SRPMS packages at:
http://www.hanzlici.cz//fedoralinux/ALL/cdrtools/
You can try it or rebuild own packages.
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Re: Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-27 Thread JD


On 08/27/2012 10:20 AM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote:

JD wrote:

On 08/26/2012 11:35 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote

DVD burn speed is not the same as CD burn speed. This is why you
have both CD and DVD speed specs on drives. When it comes to CDs,
there are two different blank formats. You have the 1x to 4x and the
4x to ?x. You can not burn the 1-4x at faster then 4x. You can not
burn the 4x-4x+ CDs at slower the 4x. This has NOTHING to do with
DVD burning speeds.

Check your drive CD burning speeds and CD blank speeds. See if they
are rated to burn at slower then 4x. If not, then regardless of the
software, you are NOT doing to be able to burn CDs slower then 4x.
Again, this is different then DVD burn speeds.

You may want to do some research on burning CDs and DVDs so that you
understand the difference. You will probably discover that your
hardware will not burn CDs at slower then 4x.

Mikkel


Thanx for the explanation.
So, I tried
$ wodim -v dev=/dev/sr0 speed=4 image6.iso
. . . .
Speed set to 1764 KB/s
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed  10.0 in real force TAO mode for single 
session.

I interrupted the burn, as it did not obey 4x speed.

So, I tried 6X.

Script started on Sun 26 Aug 2012 12:53:20 PM MDT
$ wodim -v dev=/dev/sr0 speed=6 image3.iso
. . . .
Speed set to 1764 KB/s
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed  10.0 in real TAO mode for single session.

When I add driveropts=forcespeed, it still says:
.
.
.
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed  10.0 in real TAO mode for single session.

I believe that wodim may be the source of the problem.

I have cdrecord Fedora i686 RPM packages for F15/F16/F17 at:
http://www.hanzlici.cz//fedoralinux/ALL/cdrecord/

or their SRPMS packages at:
http://www.hanzlici.cz//fedoralinux/ALL/cdrtools/
You can try it or rebuild own packages.

Thanx!
I was able to build cdrecord and it also kept insisting on recording at 10X.
I suspect it is the Sony CD-R media that may be the culprit as it may be
coded to support only 10X.
I know that my drive supports multiple speeds = 24X
The drive is:
ata2.00: ATAPI: Slimtype DVD A  DS8A1P, CH71, max MWDMA2
scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROMSlimtype DVD A  DS8A1PCH71 is:

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Re: Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-27 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 12:08 -0600, JD wrote:
 I suspect it is the Sony CD-R media that may be the culprit as it may
 be coded to support only 10X.

In which case, don't try to circumvent it.  Consider that they've listed
the speeds that are going to work, on purpose.

If you really do want slow media, such as you're burning discs for a
mastering plant to replicate, then buy media that's made for it.

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Re: Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-27 Thread JD


On 08/27/2012 07:43 PM, Tim wrote:

On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 12:08 -0600, JD wrote:

I suspect it is the Sony CD-R media that may be the culprit as it may
be coded to support only 10X.

In which case, don't try to circumvent it.  Consider that they've listed
the speeds that are going to work, on purpose.

If you really do want slow media, such as you're burning discs for a
mastering plant to replicate, then buy media that's made for it.


Right. Easier said than found in neighbourhood stores :) :)
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Re: Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-26 Thread JD
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:

 On 08/26/2012 12:30 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
  On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 22:06:02 -0600
  JD wrote:
 
  Here is the output of make and gmake
  I see that same junk, but the gmake keeps going anyway
  and builds everything. (At least on my system - I just
  tried it with a new copy of the cdrtools-beta.tar.gz
  I downloaded from the Download Latest link which
  expands to the cdrtools-3.01 directory). I assume
  it probably winds up with bad dependencies, but
  that doesn't matter much in a fresh directory with no
  object files built yet.
 
  I'm building 64 bit - don't know if that makes a
  difference or not.

 FWIW, both build just fine here on f16 3.4.7-1.fc16.i686 as well as
  fc17.x86_64

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Could be something wrong with my gcc or gmake env?
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Re: Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-26 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2012-08-25 at 20:49 -0600, JD wrote:
 using driveropts=forcespeed speed=2 .etc  does not work
 using  ... speed=2 . does  not work
  
 wodim always writes at the medium's encoded speed, which
 ranges from 10X to 24x.
  
 However, using speed=2 on DVD media DOES work.

It could actually be the media.  They have a set list of speeds that the
media is good for, and shouldn't be burnt at other speeds.  It's quite
likely that some media doesn't support 2x speeds.  It could also be the
drive.

Changing burning speeds requires changing the power of the laser.  The
drive may not be able to change powers for the speed that you want, or
the media mightn't be suitable.

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Re: Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-26 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

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On 08/25/2012 09:49 PM, JD wrote:
 using driveropts=forcespeed speed=2 .etc does not work
 using ... speed=2 . does not work

 wodim always writes at the medium's encoded speed, which
 ranges from 10X to 24x.

 However, using speed=2 on DVD media DOES work.

 Here is the content of /etc/wodim.conf which I gleaned from the web.

 CDR_DEVICE=/dev/sr0
 CDR_SPEED=2
 CDR_FIFOSIZE=128m
 DVDR_DEVICE=/dev/sr0
 DVDR_SPEED=2
 DVDR_FIFOSIZE=128m
 TS=128
 GRACETIME=10



Do you have blank CDs that will burn at 2x? The blank CD media that
will burn at 2x is different then the media that will burn at +4X.
Also, a lot of newer drives will not burn CDs at slower the 4x. DVD
burning is different - a 2x DVD speed is not the same as a 2x CD speed.

Mikkel
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Re: Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-26 Thread JD

On 08/26/2012 10:35 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

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On 08/25/2012 09:49 PM, JD wrote:

using driveropts=forcespeed speed=2 .etc does not work
using ... speed=2 . does not work

wodim always writes at the medium's encoded speed, which
ranges from 10X to 24x.

However, using speed=2 on DVD media DOES work.

Here is the content of /etc/wodim.conf which I gleaned from the web.

CDR_DEVICE=/dev/sr0
CDR_SPEED=2
CDR_FIFOSIZE=128m
DVDR_DEVICE=/dev/sr0
DVDR_SPEED=2
DVDR_FIFOSIZE=128m
TS=128
GRACETIME=10




Do you have blank CDs that will burn at 2x? The blank CD media that
will burn at 2x is different then the media that will burn at +4X.
Also, a lot of newer drives will not burn CDs at slower the 4x. DVD
burning is different - a 2x DVD speed is not the same as a 2x CD speed.

Mikkel
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taste good with Ketchup!
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I have tried it on many different blank cd media, old ones and new ones.

But how is it that I can burn at 2x on any blank DVD media?
I have used many different brands of DVD media over the years
and I have always been able to burn them at 2x.
So, I don't believe it is the cd media.
It could very well be wodim itself.

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Re: Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-26 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

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On 08/26/2012 12:05 PM, JD wrote:
 On 08/26/2012 10:35 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 On 08/25/2012 09:49 PM, JD wrote:
  using driveropts=forcespeed speed=2 .etc does not work
  using ... speed=2 . does not work
 
  wodim always writes at the medium's encoded speed, which
  ranges from 10X to 24x.
 
  However, using speed=2 on DVD media DOES work.
 
  Here is the content of /etc/wodim.conf which I gleaned from
the web.
 
  CDR_DEVICE=/dev/sr0
  CDR_SPEED=2
  CDR_FIFOSIZE=128m
  DVDR_DEVICE=/dev/sr0
  DVDR_SPEED=2
  DVDR_FIFOSIZE=128m
  TS=128
  GRACETIME=10
 
 
 
 Do you have blank CDs that will burn at 2x? The blank CD media that
 will burn at 2x is different then the media that will burn at +4X.
 Also, a lot of newer drives will not burn CDs at slower the 4x. DVD
 burning is different - a 2x DVD speed is not the same as a 2x CD
speed.

 Mikkel
 -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and
 taste good with Ketchup!

 I have tried it on many different blank cd media, old ones and new
ones.

 But how is it that I can burn at 2x on any blank DVD media?
 I have used many different brands of DVD media over the years
 and I have always been able to burn them at 2x.
 So, I don't believe it is the cd media.
 It could very well be wodim itself.

DVD burn speed is not the same as CD burn speed. This is why you
have both CD and DVD speed specs on drives. When it comes to CDs,
there are two different blank formats. You have the 1x to 4x and the
4x to ?x. You can not burn the 1-4x at faster then 4x. You can not
burn the 4x-4x+ CDs at slower the 4x. This has NOTHING to do with
DVD burning speeds.

Check your drive CD burning speeds and CD blank speeds. See if they
are rated to burn at slower then 4x. If not, then regardless of the
software, you are NOT doing to be able to burn CDs slower then 4x.
Again, this is different then DVD burn speeds.

You may want to do some research on burning CDs and DVDs so that you
understand the difference. You will probably discover that your
hardware will not burn CDs at slower then 4x.

Mikkel
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Re: Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-26 Thread JD


On 08/26/2012 11:35 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote

DVD burn speed is not the same as CD burn speed. This is why you
have both CD and DVD speed specs on drives. When it comes to CDs,
there are two different blank formats. You have the 1x to 4x and the
4x to ?x. You can not burn the 1-4x at faster then 4x. You can not
burn the 4x-4x+ CDs at slower the 4x. This has NOTHING to do with
DVD burning speeds.

Check your drive CD burning speeds and CD blank speeds. See if they
are rated to burn at slower then 4x. If not, then regardless of the
software, you are NOT doing to be able to burn CDs slower then 4x.
Again, this is different then DVD burn speeds.

You may want to do some research on burning CDs and DVDs so that you
understand the difference. You will probably discover that your
hardware will not burn CDs at slower then 4x.

Mikkel


Thanx for the explanation.
So, I tried
$ wodim -v dev=/dev/sr0 speed=4 image6.iso
. . . .
Speed set to 1764 KB/s
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed  10.0 in real force TAO mode for 
single session.


I interrupted the burn, as it did not obey 4x speed.

So, I tried 6X.

Script started on Sun 26 Aug 2012 12:53:20 PM MDT
$ wodim -v dev=/dev/sr0 speed=6 image3.iso
. . . .
Speed set to 1764 KB/s
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed  10.0 in real TAO mode for single session.

When I add driveropts=forcespeed, it still says:
.
.
.
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed  10.0 in real TAO mode for single session.

I believe that wodim may be the source of the problem.

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Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-25 Thread JD

using driveropts=forcespeed speed=2 .etc  does not work
using  ... speed=2 . does  not work

wodim always writes at the medium's encoded speed, which
ranges from 10X to 24x.

However, using speed=2 on DVD media DOES work.

Here is the content of /etc/wodim.conf which I gleaned from the web.

CDR_DEVICE=/dev/sr0
CDR_SPEED=2
CDR_FIFOSIZE=128m
DVDR_DEVICE=/dev/sr0
DVDR_SPEED=2
DVDR_FIFOSIZE=128m
TS=128
GRACETIME=10



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Re: Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-25 Thread Tom Horsley
wodim is an utter pile of rubbish. Only the true
cdrecord actually works well.

Download the one true cdrecord from:

http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html

and build it from source.

Try to ignore the fact that the author is a supreme
ass who rubs everyone the wrong way. Focus on the
fact that the cdrecord tool actually works :-).
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Re: Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-25 Thread JD


On 08/25/2012 08:58 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

wodim is an utter pile of rubbish. Only the true
cdrecord actually works well.

Download the one true cdrecord from:

http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html

and build it from source.

Try to ignore the fact that the author is a supreme
ass who rubs everyone the wrong way. Focus on the
fact that the cdrecord tool actually works :-).

I downloaded 3.0 and the beta which is 3.0.1.

For both of them the outputs of make, gmake and smake is the same.

Here is the output of make and gmake and smake

$ make
RULES/rules.top:43: RULES/ldummy.lnk: No such file or directory
W A R N I N GMessages like:

gmake[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/cdrtools-2.01/libschily'
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/cvmod.d: No such file or directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/dat.d: No such file or directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/fcons.d: No such file or directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/fdown.d: No such file or directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/fdup.d: No such file or directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/ffileread.d: No such file or 
directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/ffilewrite.d: No such file or 
directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/fgetline.d: No such file or 
directory

../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/fgetstr.d: No such file or directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/file_raise.d: No such file or 
directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/fileclose.d: No such file or 
directory



are caused by a GNU make bug and not by the Schily makefile system.

The related bug has been reported to the GNU make maintainers in 1998 but
as the bug has not yet been fixed, it seems that GNU make is 
unmaintained :-(

A working highly portable make program is at ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/smake

You may switch off this warning by calling gmake GMAKE_NOWARN=true ...

RULES/rules1.top:261: incs/Dnull: No such file or directory
RULES/rules1.top:265: *** multiple target patterns.  Stop.


$ gmake
RULES/rules.top:43: RULES/ldummy.lnk: No such file or directory
W A R N I N GMessages like:

gmake[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/cdrtools-2.01/libschily'
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/cvmod.d: No such file or directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/dat.d: No such file or directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/fcons.d: No such file or directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/fdown.d: No such file or directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/fdup.d: No such file or directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/ffileread.d: No such file or 
directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/ffilewrite.d: No such file or 
directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/fgetline.d: No such file or 
directory

../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/fgetstr.d: No such file or directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/file_raise.d: No such file or 
directory
../RULES/r-gmake.dep:76: OBJ/arch-dir/fileclose.d: No such file or 
directory



are caused by a GNU make bug and not by the Schily makefile system.

The related bug has been reported to the GNU make maintainers in 1998 but
as the bug has not yet been fixed, it seems that GNU make is 
unmaintained :-(

A working highly portable make program is at ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/smake

You may switch off this warning by calling gmake GMAKE_NOWARN=true ...

RULES/rules1.top:261: incs/Dnull: No such file or directory
RULES/rules1.top:265: *** multiple target patterns.  Stop.


So I tried smake:

smake
Use of assignment to $[ is deprecated at /usr/local/bin/smake line 165.
/usr/local/bin/smake:Error: Output file Makefile exists and seems to have
not been generated by SMake, or has been edited since SMake
created it. In either event, it will not be stomped. Resolve
this issue first and invoke /usr/local/bin/smake again.

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Re: Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 22:06:02 -0600
JD wrote:

 Here is the output of make and gmake

I see that same junk, but the gmake keeps going anyway
and builds everything. (At least on my system - I just
tried it with a new copy of the cdrtools-beta.tar.gz
I downloaded from the Download Latest link which
expands to the cdrtools-3.01 directory). I assume
it probably winds up with bad dependencies, but
that doesn't matter much in a fresh directory with no
object files built yet.

I'm building 64 bit - don't know if that makes a
difference or not.
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Re: Unable to force wodim to write a CD at 2X speed

2012-08-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/26/2012 12:30 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
 On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 22:06:02 -0600
 JD wrote:

 Here is the output of make and gmake
 I see that same junk, but the gmake keeps going anyway
 and builds everything. (At least on my system - I just
 tried it with a new copy of the cdrtools-beta.tar.gz
 I downloaded from the Download Latest link which
 expands to the cdrtools-3.01 directory). I assume
 it probably winds up with bad dependencies, but
 that doesn't matter much in a fresh directory with no
 object files built yet.

 I'm building 64 bit - don't know if that makes a
 difference or not.

FWIW, both build just fine here on f16 3.4.7-1.fc16.i686 as well as  fc17.x86_64

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